[02:22] does anyone know of any write-up as to the thinking behind ubuntu moving to qt? [02:23] i.e. for unity8 [02:23] and phone/converged apps [02:27] well qt has a long history of been solid and reliable, no? [02:27] well yes, but I want a more thought-out answer than that :-p [02:27] ok.... just because :-) [02:28] hence why I asked for a write-up that I can study :-) [02:29] ideally I'd like a breakdown as to what qt provides that "insert random toolkit here" doesn't [02:29] is there ever a well explained reason for the decisions made by ubuntu team? [02:29] lol [02:30] I'm wondering if it's a simple as licensing [02:31] diddledan_, at the time, qt/qml was the only touch friendly and resolution independant toolkit. [02:32] in to some degree remains as such. [02:32] hmm [02:32] jolla uses it too [02:32] ditto webOS [02:35] is the units.gu thingy in qml an ubuntuism? [02:35] I can't find very much info about it [02:36] other than ubuntu guides saying "use gu" [02:37] I guess I should join #ubuntu-app-dev [02:37] (or is there an S on app?) [02:37] * diddledan_ runs /list [02:39] hmm, neither? [02:39] where's that gone? [02:43] gu - is a fixed, resolution independant unit, which relates to the ubuntu grid & app layout & text/font. [02:44] unlike all other mobile platforms, ubuntu phones actually have a regular sized and consistent everything. [02:44] aha [02:44] danke [03:22] hmm. ubuntu sdk seems to dislike ecryptfs encrypted home directory [03:22] keeps unmounting it [03:23] it might be click rather than the ide itsel [03:23] itself [03:51] diddledan_, your plex broke. tried to watch Ep4. [08:08] morning all [09:05] Morning all [09:10] morning davmor2 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:16] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy birthday to UNICEF! 😃 [10:24] morning james [10:24] morning JamesTait [10:26] 👋 MooDoo [10:32] :) [10:42] morning boys and girls. [10:59] morning brobostigon hope you're well [11:00] MooDoo: other than my eczema, not bad, and you? [11:00] JamesTait: so still not the uk bans trump day 515,299 and counting [11:02] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TlFjZXcZro [11:05] brobostigon: yeah ok thanks, glad it's friday [11:06] :) [11:46] MooDoo: You're only glad it's friday because it means it is nearly Monday again admit it you workaholic ;) [11:53] davmor2: I've a weekend helping looking after 10/15 beaver scouts, so roll on monday [11:54] MooDoo: see I know you too well, I know you love Mondays ;) [11:54] It's a nother day :) [12:29] hi all o/ [12:56] howdy daftykins [12:57] aaah solid rain here on the rock [12:57] so it official twice as many people are opposed to trump coming into the country as they accepting more immigrants I think that says a lot really [12:58] it says that twitter liberals are not in fact liberal [13:17] but we already knew that [13:19] they're not exclusively on twitter either [13:54] 4 months off being a 10 year registered on launchpad user :) [13:54] is there a group for that? lol [13:56] MooDoo: 2005-09-12 is when I joined LP [13:59] nice i suspect a lot of us oldies are around 05/06 [14:02] member since 2007. I havn't done much in LP for a while, being mostly a git user [14:02] MooDoo: yeah not sure when LP was actually opened [14:19] merry christmas - my boss doesn't have enough work longterm so he's told me to start looking for work elsewhere [14:19] \o/ [14:20] * diddledan_ goes "proper" freelance [14:21] diddledan_: that or he means you're fired ;) [14:21] diddledan_: well that sucks :( [14:22] MooDoo: ho hum :-/ [14:22] diddledan_: chin up chap at least you are good enough to get some more work fairly quickly [14:23] diddledan, I hear this bloke Trump will be available for work soon... [14:23] maybe you could use Trump Employment Services [guarenteed open minded thinking] [14:23] lol [14:23] is it called that because I trump everyone else and win the job by "de fault" [14:24] derrr... [14:24] my favourite two words, those, de fault [14:24] I like when people say "well I guess you win by de fault" [14:25] ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvIISDoarU [14:25] poor ol De Fault, always getting the blame! [14:53] no no de blame gets de blame... [15:18] and everyone fires at Will he's the one we should really feel sorry for [15:18] lol [15:27] diddledan_: that sounds like bad news [15:43] bashrc_: no that's the wrong view on life, it means he has the potential to make more money \o/ [15:51] well perhaps, depends how it goes [15:54] bashrc_: again with the pessimism, way to bolster diddledan_ confidence :P [15:56] always with the negative waves moriarity... :-) [15:57] Can you drive diddledan? I know a few people looking for a driver for some "one off jobs, ability to drive at speed preferred, ability to keep secrets afterwards essential" [15:59] ..& yes, you guessed... it's being a chauffeur for FIFA president! ;-) [16:02] I can't drive :-( [16:03] that could be a "slight" problem ;-) [16:03] diddledan_: can you rikshaw at speed? [16:04] lol [16:04] I'm sure Blatter wouldn't notice the missing attributes if you shove a bit of money his way [16:04] lol x 2 [16:04] learn on the job and all that [16:05] after a while you'll be rolling in money [16:05] isn't the money supposed to be flowing into my pockets, not the other way about?! [16:05] a bit of investment is needed first [16:05] diddledan_: you can syphon more off the payouts than you'll lose initially ;) [16:06] you can start by sending some to SuperEngineer's account, for his expenses you know, after that you'll get your job and profit [16:06] Myrtti, definitely agrred on *your* plan! [16:08] GREETINGS MR. DIDDLEDAN, I AM SUPERENGINEER, A REPRESENTATIVE OF SEP BLATTER, AND I HOPE YOU ARE WELL, BROTHER [16:08] I wonder if there are 419 generators [16:08] send 1 dollar to happy dude... [16:08] :O i had to double take [16:08] In fact, if you *all* sent me some money... [16:08] http://www.scamgen.com/ [16:09] SuperEngineer: you'd have money? :) [16:09] mmm, money [16:10] hmmmm??? that *could* be result, yes. I was thinking more along the lines of making people feel good. There was nothing else on my mind whatsover [16:10] except for finding a cure for my nose... which is growing longer as I speak [16:11] that's a lie... [16:11] oh wait... [16:18] :-) [16:28] Anybody here follow Bad Voltage? It seems to be in a "spot of bother" at the mo... all links failing! [16:29] i do [16:35] bittin_US, can you contact a podcast feed at all? id web site slow/stopped for you? [16:35] *is [16:35] havent checked busy with other stuff atm [16:36] tut tut ;-) [17:06] https://imgur.com/gallery/TrN2oW9 [17:09] * zmoylan-pi suspects it's better without sound... :-) [17:10] he's pretty good tho [17:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Hietala [17:16] zmoylan-pi: newp ;x [17:17] it just becomes a mystery! === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [21:24] Evening all === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [23:42] css and javascript in the same file?! http://codepen.io/geelen/pen/VLbpXw