[00:00] back in the day there was something like sysrq console that could be brought up (was one of SGI's patches) [00:01] is there something similar that exists these days ? [00:01] bjrohan: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.19.0-26-generic linux-signed-image-3.19.0-26-generic ' And now show in a pastbin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . [00:02] Bashing-om: I don't want to upgrade [00:02] TJ-: is there a possibility to do a watchdog reset based on something ? [00:03] this would possibly have to be a 'kernel [00:03] how do you know if you have grub installed? [00:03] or hw based reset if [00:03] the kernel itself is hanging [00:03] bjrohan: No release upgrade here , just installed packages and make sure presently the package manager is in a happy state . [00:04] Trigraph: I guess so, but at shutdown time when things are being stopped, its hard to ensure it will work as expected. [00:04] Bashing-om: some issues: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13910368/ [00:04] hmmm [00:04] TJ-: its a sad state of affairs i agree [00:04] Trigraph: if you enable all the Sys-Rq options you could cause a stack-dump when it is hanging [00:04] Trigraph: TJ-: did you try the reboot= kernel parameters? [00:04] bjrohan: look'n [00:06] Trigraph: sysctl "kernel.sysrq = 246" is what I have to enable that. [00:06] bjrohan: " http://ppa.launchpad.net/diwic/hda/ubuntu/dists " not supported in vivid .. get rid of it . [00:06] akik: what is the reboot= parameter that i need to pass ? [00:06] akik: Trigraph that's a good idea! "reboot_force" maybe [00:07] i have kernel.sysrq=1 so it allows me to use the sysrq key but unfortunately when i see the "Will now restart" it does not respond to reisub either [00:07] Bashing-om: done [00:08] bjrohan: ^^ and same same " http://ppa.launchpad.net/modycz/heimdall/ubuntu/dists/ " no support here for vivid . [00:08] Bashing-om: done as well :-) [00:09] Trigraph: see for reboot: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#n3293 [00:09] when i run `lsblk` i see a 14.5G unused partition called "disk", whereas everything is loaded on the 1.7G "/" partition - how can i fix this? i need more space! [00:09] bjrohan: K .. now does 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' run clean ? [00:09] hello guys [00:10] "reboot_force is either force or not specified" [00:10] which is best irc client on ubuntu ? [00:10] so i set reboot=reboot_force or reboot_force=force lol [00:10] Bashing-om: ran just fine :-) [00:10] mirc with wine ? [00:11] cjmz, try a few and see what you like to use [00:11] TJ-: akik: the reboot force option would be reboot=force or reboot=reboot_force or something else ? [00:11] I like Konversation and X-chat, very customizable and easy to use [00:11] bjrohan: Most home free, now what returns ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . Make sure there is no other clean up to be done . [00:11] Trigraph: reboot=force or just reboot_force [00:12] Trigraph: sorry, ignore me, that is wrong, [00:12] here's another explanation of the reboot options http://askubuntu.com/questions/7114/why-cant-i-restart-shutdown [00:12] Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13910570/ === _dctr_mnhttn_ is now known as _dctrmnhttn_ [00:12] here's the output of `lsblk`, how do i use all this space? https://gist.github.com/sarink/3d9455e4c5514e9d6bfe [00:12] ty.. [00:12] bjrohan: look'n . [00:13] it said that you could more than one reboot option separated by commas [00:13] Trigraph: reboot=[warm|cold|gpio],force so e.g. "reboot=warm,force" [00:13] okay lets do that now [00:13] Trigraph: that doc hasn't been kept 100% up-to-date so the wording is confusing [00:14] bjrohan: Ouch ! what happened to the backup -33 kernel ? [00:14] Dunno [00:14] Sarink, repartition it [00:15] Quantos: feel like walking me through how i do that? [00:15] From the size of it that's a thumb drive right? [00:15] Quantos: sd card [00:15] Oh okay [00:15] how can i print the passed kernel command line ? [00:15] Let me get you something for it sarink [00:16] Quantos: (this is ubuntu installed on a raspberry pi) [00:16] tj-: akik: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-39-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=ca8769e5-be25-4ca2-945e-b81bf023a90a ro apm=off acpi=noirq "acpi_osi=Windows 2009" reboot=warm,force [00:16] Cool sarink [00:16] Trigraph: looks goos [00:16] When did you set that up? [00:17] Trigraph: oh, EFI! try "reboot=warm,efi" and "reboot=warm,efi,force" too [00:17] good :) [00:17] Bashing-om: dunno [00:17] Oh, here you go sarink, see if this helps you at all http://askubuntu.com/questions/44557/how-to-format-partition-sd-card [00:17] okay [00:17] bjrohan: ' sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.19.0-33 linux-headers-3.19.0-33-generic ' [00:17] the last command line did not work let me add efi and try [00:17] Quantos: this is headless, no gui [00:17] Trigraph: the cmd line for the current kernel is in /proc/cmdline [00:18] do you know how to do it via cli? [00:18] That figures [00:18] Just a sec sarink [00:18] thx! [00:18] akik: yeah i was looking for kcmdline but realized that it is just cmdline [00:19] akik: TJ-: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-39-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=ca8769e5-be25-4ca2-945e-b81bf023a90a ro "acpi_osi=Windows 2013" reboot=warm,efi,force [00:19] Quantos: i think i need to expand the root partition, but obviously while ubuntu is still running [00:20] ugh [00:20] still no joy [00:20] Quantos: what do you think of the 2nd answer here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116351/increase-partition-size-on-which-ubuntu-is-installed/116367 [00:20] I'm just coming up with stuff that uses gparted sarink, let me look a little more [00:21] Quantos: is the / file-system on LVM, or a raw partition? [00:21] gilbertus: Hanging loose ? the other is taking longer than I had anticipated . [00:21] sarink: Quantos (sorry!): is the / file-system on LVM, or a raw partition? [00:21] I'm not knowing Tj [00:21] TJ-: it is the file system [00:22] yeah I'm chillin [00:22] listening. [00:22] Bashing-om: done [00:22] sarink: OK, is the device /dev/sda ? [00:23] i tried 'cold' boot did not make any diff either :S [00:23] reboot=cold,efi,force [00:24] TJ-: uh, i actually can't even tell, bc the device has zero space left so i don't even get like tab-completion [00:24] i can't do anything, hardly. ugh [00:24] sarink: try to gain root; "sudo -i" so you can use the emergency 5% [00:25] TJ-: sweet, didn't even know that existed. ok, im in.. [00:25] sarink: do "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )" [00:25] sarink: (assuming the device is /dev/sda of course) [00:25] sarink: "lsblk" will help [00:25] bjrohan: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.19.0-33-generic linux-signed-image-3.19.0-33-generic ' and then a new look ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . [00:26] TJ-: lsblk https://gist.github.com/sarink/3d9455e4c5514e9d6bfe [00:26] sarink: do "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/mmcblk0 unit s print )" [00:27] TJ-: i don't have pastebinit installed [00:27] i'm afraid to install any more programs :-p [00:28] Trigraph: do you by any chance mount some network file systems that could hang in restart/shutdown? [00:28] Bashing-om: That is done as well [00:28] bjrohan: Great, and the new look ? [00:28] Trigraph: there were still other options for reboot= you could try, like acpi [00:29] TJ-: i would remove some packages, but when i apt-get remove i get "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened" [00:30] Bashing-om: sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13911021/ [00:30] bjrohan: look'n . [00:31] i tried acpi, pci, bios(which seems to be only for x86_32) [00:31] cold,warm [00:32] bjrohan: Lastly those straggler 'rc' files : ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' . Now all that should be is 2 kernels in /boot . [00:32] sarink: OK try "sudo parted /dev/mmcblk0 unit s print | nc cwillu.com 10101" [00:32] sarink: oh, you don't need the 'sudo' now too :) [00:33] http://cwillu.com:8080/75.73.6.77/1 [00:34] hey I need help please when I sudo ip link set wlp4s0 up It says Operation not possible due to RF-kill [00:34] what does it mean ? [00:34] Bashing-om, I have to go but bbl thanks [00:34] Bashing-om: Updated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13911121/ [00:35] gilbertus: We be here .. sorry took so long .. I be a slow poke, but thorough . [00:35] np cya [00:35] TJ ^ [00:35] ugh TJ- http://cwillu.com:8080/75.73.6.77/1 [00:36] bjrohan: Yepper, that looks clean . Should be all good now . Yes ? [00:36] Yes :-) thank you! [00:37] looks like i will have to live with this ugly situationa nd build some hardware to deal with this reboot not working issue [00:37] sarink: that looks to me as if you can simply extend mmcblk0p2 to use the remainder of the device, and then extend the file-system within it [00:37] bjrohan: np. put a smile on both our faces . [00:37] is it possible to do a sysrq echo rather than call a reboot or to call sysrq 'sub' at the end of reboot or just before it prints Will now restart ? [00:37] TJ-: feel like walking me through that? :) [00:38] Hello I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a VM and don't see an option to install a minimal virtual machine? where is that option? [00:38] I just see a nice GUI that says 'try Ubuntu' or install Ubuntu [00:40] phpOrDie, you want to run ubuntu in a vm running on ubuntu? [00:40] sarink: don't do this yet, but in theory "parted /dev/mmcblk0 unit s resizepart 2 30392319" would change the partition table correctly, then you'd do "partprobe" to have the kernel update it's view, then do "cat /proc/partitions" to ensure the new view was in use, then do "resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2" to resize the file-system live [00:40] I want to run ubunto runing on virtualbox [00:40] and what does virtualbox run on? [00:40] mac osx [00:40] sarink: you might want to do "cat /proc/partitions" now to see what the current kernel view is, it should match the parted output [00:40] so whats the problem? [00:41] should work [00:41] phpOrDie: you're seeing that menu when you boot the ISO inside your VM right? so 'try' is the correct option [00:42] yes, um ok I'll try that [00:42] sarink: might be worth checking all the required tools are installed before starting. use "which " and ensure for 'partprobe' and 'resize2fs' and ensure both return paths to the binaries [00:45] when I send mail on my local machine, to my local machine, using the mail command at the shell it never shows up. Any ideas - I am used to being able being able to enter mail jpmh to send to myself and just mail to read it. What am I missing here [00:45] jpmh: is it being directed to another host ? [00:46] TJ, not as far as I know - it is a brand new install of ubuntu 14.4 server and I have made no such re-directions [00:46] TJ what should I look for? [00:46] jpmh: what's providing the local mail server? postfix's sendmail? check /var/log/mail.log possibly? [00:47] TJ, postfix is running, let me look at that file, brb [00:47] TJ-: akik : Excellent i added echo s9ub > /proc/sysrq-trigger and now i see a an ooops printed just before it does a halt [00:47] does this seem to actually point to the problem that something may be oopsing during reboot ? [00:47] it gets stuck in efi_call [00:48] "Kernel tried to execute nx-protected page - exploit attempt ?" [00:50] Trigraph: Great! get the camera out [00:51] Trigraph: sounds like a firmware issue there, is that with the reboot=warm,efi,force ? [00:51] TJ-: akik : I removed all the acpi options and with that it 'Does' seem to reboot [00:51] YUP [00:51] TJ, there are some log entries from when I tried to send from an external site, but nothing new, since I have tried locally [00:51] with no acpi options and doing an reisub from sys-trigger it rebooted but maybe that's a bad way to reboot [00:52] Trigraph: so it worked as expected (rebooted) with no acpi_osi option, with "reboot=...", but you see an oops [00:52] I'm trying to get to this screen [00:52] http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15yag5h&s=9 [00:52] TJ, is there something I need to setup so that mail knows its a valid address [00:52] jpmh: maybe 'strace' the 'mail' program see what its up to? [00:52] TJ, I do have dovecot installed and running too [00:52] but I only get to this screen? [00:52] http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=j607j8&s=9 [00:52] jpmh: first prove what it is talking to [00:53] TJ, sounds good, how do I do that - MAIL is not my thing [00:53] no i do not see an oops when i remvve all the acpi options it reboots fine but the way i am forcing a reboot is by doing [00:53] echo b> /proc/sysrq-trigger [00:53] jpmh: dovecot is an imap4 server, so unless mail is auto-connecting to it, or only reading, say, a Maildir... too many possibilities right now... need evidence :) [00:53] having trouble with steam [00:53] in do_stop function of "/etc/init.d/reboot" [00:54] where it is supposed to call 'reboot' [00:54] Trigraph: OK, so not via "systemctl reboot" === root is now known as Anonymous058 [00:54] TJ, dovecot does do pop3 too, but yes, so how do I move towards limiting where to look [00:54] nope [00:54] Trigraph: is it a systemd based install? [00:55] TJ, Maildir appears to be ~/Maildir but I see no such directory, or file, is that the issue? [00:55] jpmh: well I'd first want to know where/what 'mail' delivers your mail to when you send, then track it from there [00:55] how do i tell i am afraid i have not stayed in touch with the userspace stuff for a very long time [00:55] Trigraph: which ubuntu release is it? [00:56] stable DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04 [00:56] Trigraph: 14.04 is Upstart; 15.04 can be Upstart or Systemd, 15.10 is Systemd [00:57] i see [00:57] i went back to 14.04 because i read some bad stuff about systemd causing such issues [00:57] but i guess systemd was not to blame [00:57] is there an easy way to tell if systemd or upstart is being used ? [00:57] Trigraph: so "sudo reboot" would be the generalised way [00:58] Trigraph: sometimes "ps -p 1" will indicate it. On 15.10 I see the CMD is "systemd" [00:59] sarink: I think those commands I gave you should be good to use [00:59] okay let me check [00:59] hello! I have ubuntu studio 15.10, they have ardour 4.1 and I found that newer versin (4.2) is on the web. How can I update it? Is it possible through official repos or I need to compilate it by myself [00:59] ? [01:00] TJ, I lost connection, did I miss anything from you? [01:01] jpmh: no :) [01:02] claud6: if it were in official repos, it would be available in updates - likely you'll have to find a PPA - but ask yourself, does .1 really make all the difference? [01:02] jpmh: i think you have to be Sherlock Holmes and follow the clues from stracing 'mail' [01:02] TJ, what is stracing, sorry to be so dumb === ivan_ is now known as iv4nnunes [01:03] " 1 ? 00:00:02 init" [01:03] jpmh: sorry; it's a tool (strace) for doing system-level tracing of everything an executable does, from accessing files to calling functions within the kernel [01:03] when i run the ps -p 1 command [01:03] is http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/kilo/ a PPA? Is there a way to add it to my list of sources other than fiddling with the files? [01:03] yep, they have some new features and updated UI in 4.2 [01:03] TJ, ty, I'll head off and research strace - thank you so much [01:04] Trigraph: right, that'll be Upstart as it's 14.04. The "/sbin/reboot" command is the standard way to initiate a reboot [01:04] jpmh: start off with "strace -o /tmp/mail.log -f -e trace=file /path/to/mail " [01:04] jpmh: then pastebin the /tmp/mail.log it created so we can help analyse it [01:05] Tj- so if i removed all sysrq stuff it would still work as expected ? [01:05] TJ, ty, will install strace now [01:05] Trigraph: yes, in theory [01:05] let me try [01:06] nope seems to be stuck again [01:06] the echo b systrigger seems to be doing the trick [01:08] Trigraph: right; that's directly into the kernel, so something in userspace is hanging somewhere. How long have you left it after commanding a reboot/shutdown before hitting the power button? I'm wondering if, say, it is still waiting 30 minutes later [01:09] Trigraph: a wise Windows NT sysadmin used to tell me "go and have a cup of coffee and it'll be rebooted when you come back" ... and he was correct :) [01:10] :) [01:10] TJ-: a night :) [01:10] TJ, just patsed the result of the strace with mail with no params [01:11] i hope that reisub from command line via echo to sys-trigger does not cause problems [01:11] Trigraph: OK, so properly stuck then [01:11] TJ, 13912241/ [01:11] Yup proper. [01:11] i mean i hope that by the time that script comes to call reboot command it has stopped everything [01:12] jpmh: I think "open("/var/mail/jpmh", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)" is an indication of something wrong [01:13] TJ, so should I just create that, and should it be a file or a directory [01:13] there used to be http://oss.sgi.com/projects/kdb/news.html [01:13] which was quite nifty in situations like these not sure what happend to it and if there's anything like that anymore [01:14] or one has to pull out a JTAG to see what's going on === nya is now known as Guest9241 [01:16] jpmh: I think a mail-server is supposed to have created that, it should create a spool directory also [01:17] jpmh: have you installed a mail-server? I asked earlier if you've got postfix there? [01:17] TJ, I do have postfix running, yes [01:17] TJ, I thought I said that but may not have [01:18] jpmh: i'd expect postfix to have created directories there at install time [01:18] TJ, and apparently it did not - is there some way to make them now? [01:20] I have a RAID5 array that started showing up as an inactive raid 0 array. is there any reason for this to occur? here is the output of mdadm -D https://bpaste.net/show/3e30b387e7ec [01:21] jpmh: from looking around they're optional not required, so i don't think that is the correct solution. [01:21] okay [01:22] TJ-: i am able to dump ps -def just before shutdown [01:22] using log_action_msg `ps -def` [01:22] and moduels too [01:22] TJ, I created the file /var/mail/jpmh and it did change the problem. Now when I "mail pmh" I get the message: postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter:create fle maildrop/477911.4840: Permission denied [01:23] jpmh: what does "readlink -f /usr/bin/mail" report ? [01:23] i see plymouth --mode=shutdown, "/etc/init.d/rc 6", S90 reboot stop" [01:23] everything else seems t be a kernel thread or something [01:24] TJ, /usr/bin/bsd-mailx [01:24] Trigraph: plymouth is the splash screen handler. Might be worth booting without the "splash" option [01:24] jpmh: ok, that's more like it, we now know which mail program is being used [01:24] i turned off splash [01:25] not sure why it is still there [01:25] jpmh: read "apt-cache show bsd-mailx" [01:26] jpmh: I think you'd do better installing "heirloom-mailx" [01:26] i mean i removed splash option, trying no-splash now [01:27] TJ, by read, you mean you want me to read that output? [01:27] Trigraph: You could also try booting with GRUB/boot in text mode node graphical. that requires "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub and then "sudo update-grub" [01:27] TJ, as to heirloom - OK - but surly since what is there is what came by deafult isnt that better [01:27] jpmh: yes, it explains the limitations of the BSD version you have there [01:28] jpmh: heirloom provides a sendmail and other interfaces, which is what I think that system needs [01:29] TJ, will grab that and try - thanks so much - Of course I may be back [01:30] TJ: i do have grub_terminal set to console let me see if i can purge plymouth package [01:30] Trigraph: don't! it's got its claws into everything [01:30] TJ - installed and checked that this is what is now called, same issue [01:30] I had to edit the dpkg 'status' file, and the apt package lists, this week, to prevent it being installed [01:31] jpmh: Hmmm, I'm not sure what is going on then [01:31] jpmh: Confirmatiom " sysop@1404mini:~$ readlink -f /usr/bin/mail >> /usr/bin/heirloom-mailx ' as my default . [01:32] TJ, not sure what you are asking but readlink does tell me that mail is /usr/bin/heairloom-mailx if that is what you mean [01:32] lol yeah i realized TJ- [01:33] it was asking me to uninstall the whole system :S [01:33] Trigraph: so funny [01:33] I have a problem, I'm not sure how to describe it. I'm using KDE and something called Plasma keeps crashing and taking my apps with it [01:33] who needs plymouth anyways [01:33] i dont get how a bootsplash gets so intertwined with everything [01:33] Quantos: serious [01:34] back in the day when we had no bootsplash things were just as peachy [01:34] I've found that plasma is the shell, I think [01:34] yep and we trudged uphill both ways to work [01:34] Trigraph: you can rid the boot [01:35] how ryumbog [01:35] i do see boot and shutdown messages i think i installed plymouth-disabler or something like that [01:36] i removed Quiet and splash from cmdline [01:36] Trigraph: did you PM me [01:36] no ? [01:37] why are you so angry at me ryumbog ? [01:37] [17:33] you not funny. You giant bastard [17:36] Fuck you [17:36] what / [17:36] ? [17:36] giant ? [01:37] He has a filing cabinet shoved up his ass, I got a nasty PM from him too [01:37] jpmh: check the postfix maildrop directory: "ls -latr /var/spool/postfix/maildrop/" see if your sent mails are piling up there [01:37] Quantos: that's insulting [01:38] Good, I hope that improves your mood.... [01:38] Quantos: i think plasma is the window decorator/manager thing in KDE land [01:38] Trigraph: I agree; I've been debating posting those depends on plymouth as bugs, but its been that way since 12.04 at least when I checked. It even affects cryptsetup [01:38] Yeah, it's quite annoying daftykins [01:38] 02:31 you should consider deleting yourself 02:33 please leave [01:39] I don't like your pm's either. [01:39] TJ, there is nothing in that directoey at all, it is ownedby postfix and group postdrop [01:39] everyone - if you have a problem with receiving abusive PMs from people, report them in #ubuntu-ops - don't paste it here. [01:39] Quantos: you enjoy tossing out insults [01:40] daftykins: Im just showing that anyone can make up lies [01:40] you will achieve nothing by bringing drama to this channel, now be reminded that this channel is for support queries only, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, thanks [01:41] k buddy [01:41] yumbox: you lie [01:41] i'll see what sysrq-trigger does in kernel [01:41] TJ, since I now get the error that permissin is denied on the maildrop/xxx file is there an issue with this directory permissions [01:41] i am assuming it does something very similar to reboot [01:42] i.e calls the reboot syscall ? [01:42] to ignore all private messages simply do /umode +g [01:42] ryumbog: get a clue [01:42] without bothering about the userspace [01:42] TJ, permissions ar drwx-wx--T [01:43] jpmh: maildrop/ should be owned by postfix; something is not configured correctly there, I've never had such issues [01:44] TJ, so is there anyway to clean this - it is a brand new out-of-the box install [01:45] TJ-: is there a recommended way of disabling plymouth ? [01:45] like can i replace the exe with a bash script with nothing in it ? [01:45] This link shows a rather detailed error message, does anyone know where I might find information similar about my Plasma crashes? https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=222&t=117275 [01:45] Trigraph: Just remove quiet splash and update-grub. [01:46] i did that already but plymouthd seems to be running during shutdown [01:52] When i try to do `bash -c "source ./foo.sh; bar"` (where bar is a function defined in foo.sh), it keeps complaining about bar not found, how should I fix it? === jae is now known as Guest44091 [01:52] what is the next number in the sequence? 1, 16, 76, 316... i got 644 but i would like to know if that's correct [01:53] mxxa: the ; means the end of the line, so don't use ; [01:53] SchrodingersScat: so && instead? [01:53] Trigraph: you can disable plymouth-shutdown [01:53] mxxa: not if it's a parameter of foo.sh, it would be ./foo.sh bar [01:54] SchrodingersScat: no, bar is a function defined in foo.sh, i'm expecting sourcing foo.sh to load that function === zz_tallsam is now known as tallsam [01:54] mxxa: actually I'm not that familiar with source, but if it's complaining about bar not being a command, that's why. [01:55] chaturbate: wat [01:55] context? [01:55] what number should come after 316 [01:55] !offtopic | chaturbate [01:55] chaturbate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [01:55] there is no context it's just figuring out what number it is [01:55] chaturbate: 317 [01:56] also, ask random stuff like this in another channel [01:56] also you are stupid [01:56] yes. now go away. [01:56] !guidelines | chaturbate, this is #ubuntu, home of ubuntu support. [01:56] chaturbate, this is #ubuntu, home of ubuntu support.: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [01:56] SchrodingersScat: what an offensive name you have [01:57] ...says the guy with a nick "chaturbate" [01:57] i didn't know coprophilia was encouraged in this channel [01:57] it's after the song, note that my name is also offtopic here. [01:57] sick [01:57] seek professional help [01:58] liking something like that is as bad as liking racist music [01:58] chaturbate: please stop [01:59] actually. This is it. [02:00] >inb4 s/ch/m/ [02:00] heh [02:04] /join #test [02:04] on Installation, when manually creating partition, which one is better creating swap partition in starting or in the end? [02:05] rahuldev, doesn't particularly matter [02:06] cfhowlett, ok thanks [02:06] rahuldev: if you use a hard disk drive, more to the beginning is better because it's faster [02:06] if you have enough memory, you dont need swap though [02:07] on SSDs, the position of a partition doesn't matter at all [02:07] yumbox, I'm using hdd! with 2gb ram! [02:08] ouch [02:08] yumbox, see lubuntu. ubuntu can run on that but ... slow. [02:08] then put your swap at the start [02:08] cfhowlett: huh? [02:08] !lubuntu | yumbox [02:08] yumbox: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [02:09] yumbox, ok. [02:09] cfhowlett: I know what lubuntu is... [02:09] I don't get why you would mention it? [02:09] yumbox, I think ubuntu in easy installation ubuntu put swap area at the end! [02:09] rahuldev, see lubuntu - sorry yumbox [02:09] rahuldev: swap at the end is just a little slower, no difference otherwise [02:10] yumbox, ok I'll put in starting, Thanks! [02:11] cfhowlett, lubuntu will get updates same as ubuntu? [02:11] rahuldev, yes. it's ubuntu with different pajamas [02:12] !flavors | rahuldev [02:12] rahuldev: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu. [02:13] :D cfhowlett, I will try that! [02:13] rahuldev, happy2help! [02:13] thanks. [02:14] So finally the problem got resolved by upgrading to 4.2 kernel ! :D [02:14] One more thing, Is swap area shouldn't be primary area is I'm right? === kingplusplus_ is now known as kingplusplus [02:43] TJ, mail now working - needed to send to someone other than self for some weird reason to set the files to work [02:49] Hi! anyone on ubuntu 15.10 and GIMP 2.8.14. Could you please check if Cage Transform tool crashes your GIMP? [02:50] +i josue [02:51] hey all. minor annoyance: .pdf's launch in the wrong app. Where do I look to reset to the default PDF reader? [02:53] cfhowlett right click -> properties -> open with tab [02:53] set as default [02:53] dm_comp, sorry, from the browser; firefox [02:54] cfhowlett: did that help? [02:54] dm_comp, from the browser: firefox === learnit_ is now known as learnit [02:58] save a pdf to the desktop then right click the pdf -> prperties -> open with tab and you should see "Document Viewer" which is the default for ubuntu. select it and click set as default [02:58] cfhowlett you are on a ubuntu desktop, right? [02:58] dm_comp, nope. when I click "open" in the browser, it launches the wrong app. [02:59] dm_comp, xubuntu. [02:59] I'm wondering what advantage there is to putting Ubuntu Linux my box when I already have crouton running Ubuntu. [02:59] I have Chrome OS + crouton. [02:59] Running Ubuntu. [02:59] What's the advantage of a dedicated Ubuntu install? [02:59] How many ways can you think of to remove a file called '-r' [03:02] Bentleydrivers: advantages and disadvantages are usually do to software not to the OS === fb is now known as fb9669 [03:03] Depressed_CRM_Us: you could do: rm -- -r; [03:03] Depressed_CRM_Us: it's actually on the rm manpage [03:04] Well you think Ubuntu on Chrome OS [03:04] is as good as dedicated Ubuntu? [03:04] like right now GIMP 2.8.14 crashes on Ubuntu 15.10 not sure if it's a bug since 2.8.16 is the latest version [03:05] Bentleydrivers, install and test for yourself [03:05] it would be nice if Software Center could keep up with all the updates [03:06] wish ubuntu had a tumbleweed edition ;) [03:07] dm_comp, have you asked #gimp? [03:07] cfhowlett: yes [03:08] cfhowlett: they probably won't help since it's a older version :( [03:09] I wish I wasn't so attached to Unity :( [03:11] what I don't understand why so many people love to hate it(Unity)? [03:12] dm_comp, hey people were gathering pitchforks and stakes when the control buttons were switched from right to left. some folk just can't adapt to change ... [03:12] or some people have other preferences. [03:13] i'm fully addicted to tiliing window managers now [03:13] and i groan when i have to reach for the mouse :D [03:13] Probably1ndy: I understand preferences but when it comes Unity like cfhowlett people grab pitchforks [03:14] *cfhowlett said === kingplusplus_ is now known as kingplusplus [03:14] it all about the workflow in my opinion [03:14] *it's [03:14] i think with the case of unity and ubuntu, is that a lot of people feel that the old interface (gnome 2 especially), was functional and nice and all they ever wanted. And then it got all changed on them, and now they have to relearn something new. [03:15] how can i reboot the entire graphics UI? [03:15] in ubutntu 15.04 [03:15] without losing anything [03:15] Hello, I have a new install of virtualbox and ubuntu server and I want to ssh into ubuntu through terminal. It accapts my username but fails on password. Tried logging in with the same password from virtualbox and thats working? any idea what I'm doing wrong? [03:15] and while learning something new isn't necessarily bad, if its feelsl like change just for the sake of change, then people get unhappy. [03:16] Probably1ndy, Window 8 made me unhappy [03:16] grahamsavage__: yep. [03:16] they can take windows 7 off my work machine when it catches fire and burns to the ground. [03:16] although, i watched the microsft build conference and it sounded awesome.. it's just when it came out, it was so difficult to use [03:17] I'm getting a (publickey,keyboard-interactive) permission deinied [03:17] !ot | Probably1ndy grahamsavage__ (conversation is devolving to very offtopic now...) [03:17] Probably1ndy grahamsavage__ (conversation is devolving to very offtopic now...): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:17] malditoDev: check permissions on your public key [03:18] ubotto: what are the rules on reposting a question? [03:18] dm_comp: leave it a reasonable amount of time so you dont repeat too often. No specific number of minutes === anthony is now known as beefsec [03:19] somsip new to ubunto and ssh, how would I do that? [03:19] dm_comp, "reasonable" = 15 minutes or so [03:20] anyone on ubuntu 15.10 and GIMP 2.8.14(software center). Could you please check if Cage Transform tool crashes your GIMP? [03:20] malditoDev: ls -la ~/.ssh [03:20] already asked in #gimp but the current version of GIMP is 2.8.16 [03:21] malditoDev: though it may be you're just using incorrect SSH details. Are you on ubuntu, connecting to ubuntu, or both? [03:21] I connected to ubuntu through virtualbox to make sure the password was correct [03:21] and it logged me int here [03:22] about how long does it take for the ubuntu team to update a package as popular as GIMP [03:22] malditoDev: so explain what you're trynig to do that fails [03:22] dm_comp, 1st debian updates >>> downstream to ubuntu. [03:22] what's sup dude [03:23] malditoDev: check your ssh config and if root is allowed to log in [03:23] I'm following a tutorial that has you ssh into ubunto from OSX terminal. it takes my username when i do this: ssh p-2222 name@sandbox.dev then it propts for password. WhenI enter teh password it it says permissions denied [03:24] malditoDev, you have it running in a vm? [03:24] malditoDev: that port is non-standard. Try ssh name@sandbox.dev [03:25] malditoDev: some ssh config don't allow roots to log in remotely so make a standard account log and the switch to root [03:25] malditoDev: and post a link to the tutorial so we can see what your'e doing [03:26] http://oi67.tinypic.com/5wf42w.jpg [03:26] dm_comp, you could always compiling gimp from source ... [03:26] in my vm I have SSH portforwarding to 2222 [03:26] the tutorial is: http://www.lynda.com/Apache-tutorials/Installing-Ubuntu-Server-1404-LTS/158372/178054-4.html [03:27] cfhowlett: thinking about doing that, but not looking forward to it [03:27] malditoDev: also VM network connection could of been set incorrectly [03:28] malditoDev: You should be able to connect to the VM with ssh {username}@{ip of VM} - I don't see how the mapping of the host port to the VM port is helping you [03:29] malditoDev: so I'd suggest getting the basics working (being able to SSH direct) then add on other stuff (port forwarding) [03:29] I tried without the -p2222 and still same error :( [03:29] malditoDev: what is the IP of the VM? [03:30] I'm getting errors like "W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_source_Sources Hash Sum mismatch" when I do apt-get update. If I switch from ca.archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.com it works, so it looks like it's something specific with the ca mirror. [03:30] pnorman: I had that for a couple of days on the servers I use. It resolved itself [03:31] In the tutoral I updated my hosts file with 127.0.0.1 [03:31] malditoDev: you're not answering questions or following instructions. Difficult to help you.... [03:32] I'm trying the best I know how [03:32] malditoDev: what is the IP of the VM? [03:32] how can I find that? [03:32] So on this website (https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gimp/) the version number is 2.8.6 but the current version of GIMP is 2.8.16 and software center has 2.8.14 ... is that a typo on the website, is it missing a "1" before 6 [03:32] malditoDev: log in to the VM and type ifconfig [03:33] !info gimp | dm_comp [03:33] dm_comp: gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.14-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 3529 kB, installed size 16429 kB [03:33] dm_comp: if you are on 15.10, the current version is that ^^^ [03:33] hi dude [03:33] is it the inet addr: 127.0.0.1 [03:34] malditoDev: no - probable 192.168.1.{something} [03:34] malditoDev: or 10.0.0.{something} depending how you have netowrking setup on the VM [03:35] http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2i1fvih&s=9 [03:35] oh maybe 10.0.2.15 [03:35] malditoDev: 10.0.2.15 then. So what happens when, from the host, you type "ssh bishopbautista@10.0.2.15"? [03:37] somsip: the version on the website make no sense [03:38] version 2.8.6 will never be [03:38] dm_comp: it's what happens in the repo that matters [03:38] somsip its strange I just get a carriage return [03:39] malditoDev: type ifconfig on the host and post the IP. Try "ping 10.0.2.15" from the host also to see if you get a reply [03:39] ping is timing out [03:40] malditoDev: and the host IP? [03:43] I'm not seeign anything that says ip with ifconfig :( [03:43] malditoDev: maybe you need something else in OSX [03:44] 192.168.1.135 [03:45] malditoDev: so you're on different subnets. Change networking type (NAT, bridged, whatever) on the VM and reboot until you're getting a 192.168.1.X IP [03:46] its on NAT now, what shoudl I change it to? [03:47] malditoDev: something else. I dont; remember and always trial-and-error until I get it right. someone else might chime in with the correct one if they know [03:47] malditoDev: try bridged maybe [03:48] OMG...it worked! [03:48] THANK YOU THANK YOU [03:48] malditoDev: so you can ssh in now? [03:48] yup! [03:49] k - sorted [03:49] somsip <------ Brilliant! [03:49] !cookie | somsip [03:49] somsip: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [03:49] :) [03:49] http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=of5z85&s=9#.VmpH2xow0W8 [03:50] * cfhowlett wishes we had one more ubottu trigger "Beer!" [03:50] malditoDev: that seems to have done it. VM networking has caught me out before too [03:51] for someone like me that does't know what to expect yet...this was so very frustrating [03:52] sadly I'm not really sure how it was fixed [03:53] malditoDev: homework - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork [03:56] Thanks somsip ! [03:56] malditoDev: np [03:59] How might one trap a SIGKILL from within bash? [04:00] Depressed_CRM_Us: http://linuxcommand.org/wss0160.php "There is one signal that you cannot trap: SIGKILL or signal 9" === yeti_ is now known as yeti39x [04:03] I am new to ubuntu, does anyone have any suggestions on links to learn from? [04:04] How would I set up an Ubuntu VM, such that, when I launch an application that uses a port on the VM, I can access the port from a Windows host machine? [04:04] !manual | yeti39x [04:04] yeti39x: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [04:04] yeti39x, also: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads start at #0. read. #1. read. repeat >>> #102 [04:05] cfhhowlett, thank you [04:05] How would you find the disk space consumed by a directory without using du? [04:06] Depressed_CRM_Us: asking unusual questions without acknowledging previous replies comes across as very trolly [04:07] somsip: what do you mean? i was asking question? [04:07] the answer evades me as well, I have used the command before to check the swap partition size but I can't remember.. [04:07] I was screwing around with my package manager like an idiot and now I don't have the nice glowing ubuntu logo at bootup. Any ideas how to get it back? What package(s) provide it? (I have a radeon HD 8330 graphics chip, in my processor), I'm connected through HDMI. [04:08] Depressed_CRM_Us: you asked. I answered, you didn't acknowledge, you asked another. Either trolling or just plain rude. I'm not decide as yet [04:08] yeti39x, happy2help@ [04:08] sorry thanks for the information [04:09] sorry i responded in another room actually [04:09] lime chat is very confusing to me [04:11] Is the command line in ubuntu the same as terminal in OSX? [04:11] deadmund did you install a new graphics driver when it quit showing your splash screen? [04:11] malditoDev: similar but not exactly the same [04:11] When I installed the nvidia drivers I lost my splash screen as well. It may be something in you grub settings if it is related to the screen resolution as well.. Had that issue before too [04:11] malditoDev: they're both bash [04:12] are they both unix? [04:12] yeti39x: I might have, but not intentionally. I had radeon before, I have radeon now. Not sure what happened in the interm! :P [04:12] right, not all the commands are the same, some similar.. [04:12] malditoDev: OSX is based of BSD. There are similarities on how command line works, but not exactly the same [04:12] yeti39x: lsmod | grep fglrx returns nothing. lsmod | grep radeon shows some lines with radeon in them (as expected) [04:13] ok got it thanks! [04:13] well if you look in synaptic I believe it will tell you what you have installed [04:13] They're both bash I think? And is Mac's implementation of bash fully POSIX? [04:13] yeti39x: I know that I have xorg-xserver-video-radeon installed (providing me the radeon driver). I don't think it's a radeon issue. I think I just need to reinstall whatever package does the pretty glowing logo (not sure though) [04:14] * deadmund has played "linux" before [04:14] april 2016 needs to hurry up and get here [04:15] i want my newer LTS [04:15] +1 | truexfan81, [04:15] truexfan81, take it to #ubuntu+1 [04:15] it's not a package it's a splash screen.. so when you are booting the grub settings define what screen resolution is being displayed at boot. Ithe splash screen should bet may besize grub says to do with the resolution you set your machine to vs. what [04:16] cfhowlett: no need, i said what i was going to say that conversation is over [04:16] yeti39x: what config file can I see what the resultion is set by grub? /etc/default/grub ? [04:17] use sudo nano to edit the conf BUT make a backup first to save your self much hassle in case you mess it up.. [04:18] how do you escape paging through log files? [04:18] malditoDev: "escape paging" ?? [04:18] We may shooting in the dark but this is my guess and I am not that advanced. There may be a better answer out there.. [04:18] malditoDev, more filename | grep topic [04:18] yeti39x: thanks :) [04:19] I'm viewing log files and I can't escape it LOL [04:19] I would check to see if the screen resolution you chose to run matches the grub config just to be sure [04:19] malditoDev: ctrl-c ? [04:19] TY [04:20] good luck it that isn't it then it could be graphics related if you installed a newer driver.. Like I said mine was replaced by the nvidia splash screen at some point using the terminology on google may render a result as well [04:20] deadmund, good luck I g2g [04:20] yeti39x: thanks [04:20] cya === frank1e is now known as frank1e_ === frank1e_ is now known as frank1e [04:27] Is there a big difference between irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu and irc.ubuntu.com/#ubuntu ? Is one the official and the other one is the unofficial?? [04:33] deadmund: do they both lead to the same place? [04:34] SchrodingersScat: That's what I'm asking> [04:34] deadmund: probably yes. so both are official. === erwin_ is now known as easyOnMe [04:35] SchrodingersScat: haha, thanks [04:36] deadmund: you can check with nslookup irc.ubuntu.com, seems to go to chat.freenode.net [04:39] SchrodingersScat: mmm [04:40] Sendmail is being sent correctly, but never being delivered. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13917531/ [04:40] Anyone have any ideas? [04:45] How do I get latest nvidia drivers for my MacBook 2010 and should I run into issues if I install the latest such as black screen upon restart [04:46] just to clarify, are you looking for OSX drivers or Linux drivers Dylan____ [04:46] Linux [04:46] Which Ubuntu version + kernel? [04:47] I don't know about kernel but I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS [04:47] in terminal run uname -a and paste the output [04:47] ubuntu can install on a mac? [04:48] utu8o: yes [04:48] Yeah [04:48] I overwrites Mac OS X [04:48] And I have Ubuntu permently installed [04:48] you can also dual boot using something like rEFInd [04:48] that sucks [04:48] Does the stock ubuntu kernel come with the ip_gre module? [04:48] I actually like Ubuntu then OS X [04:49] I'm firing my laptop up now seriouslylaugh [04:49] Dylan____ this link has instructions on how to install the nvidia-current driver for that machine but it involves using a ppa which is risky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Oneiric#Video [04:49] !mac | utu8o [04:49] utu8o: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [04:49] !ppa [04:49] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [04:49] Ok [04:49] I'll check the papa out [04:49] ribbon: 14.04 here and available [04:49] Ppa [04:50] Is the ppa itself dangerous as such? [04:50] ppas can be inherently dangerous [04:50] hence the disclaimer :) [04:50] somsip: Thank you very much! [04:50] So ppa isnt made by nvidia [04:50] so a PPA can basically be like a virus or something? [04:51] utu8o: untrusted software is to be trusted only at your own risk [04:51] Dylan____ no idea, likely not [04:52] Ok [04:52] Cause in the past when im tried to install the latest nvidia driver on linux i would reboot and get prompted with a black screen [04:52] Which then causes me to have to use my live usb or dvd and reinstall all over sgain [04:53] yeah upgrading the display driver can be tricky if it doesn't go smoothly [04:53] no need to nuke and pave though, you can tweak the current installation FYI [04:53] Ok i just installed the nvidia current driver its doing it stuff in the terminal now [04:53] !nomodeset [04:53] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:53] And i have to update the xorg do i? [04:54] My macbook already is getting hot sigh haha [04:54] yeah i would follow that community supplied tutorial. i haven't done it for that particular machine so i can't really speak to the specifics [04:54] Ok ill get back to you when its done etc [04:54] godspeed [04:55] SeriouslyLaugh: listening to it now :) OT! [04:56] somsip i don't see you in OT :( [04:57] Ok i just restarted it says that the brightness keys wont work but ill fix that myself probs [04:57] Waiting to see if i get the black screen of death [04:57] SeriouslyLaugh: yeah - I shouldn't said anything here really. Too much caffeine :) [04:57] Ok guys well it went into a blackscreen [04:58] !nomodeset | Dylan____ [04:58] Dylan____: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:58] wow that link is way outdatted, sorry Dylan____ [04:58] Sigh looks like im reinstalling for the 3rd time [04:59] Haha thats alright [04:59] !recovery | Dylan____ no need to reinstall [04:59] Dylan____ no need to reinstall: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [04:59] Ok but i used a live usb [04:59] And it was booted with efi [04:59] ohhhhh and it wasn't persistant [04:59] then it wasn't installed anyway [04:59] it was live i guess? [04:59] recovery mode would still work === erwin_ is now known as easyOnMe [05:01] I pressed shift on my macbook didnt boot [05:01] Came with the black screen [05:01] Just set up apache in ubunto on a VM when I try to access: http://sandbox.dev:8080 I get You don't have permission to access / on this server. [05:01] I meant: http://sandbox.dev:8080/server-status [05:01] Brb going to have to reinstall from scratch [05:02] Dylan____ wait [05:02] malditoDev: that sounds like a permissions issue on whatever file or directory apache is serving up [05:02] Let's start from the beginning. Did you boot into a live USB and install Ubuntu onto the macbook's hard drive? [05:02] Yes [05:03] Probably1ndy how woudl I determine that [05:03] ok there's no need to reinstall. you can boot into recovery mode... [05:03] How? [05:03] read the link i pasted above -- you have to press shift at a specific time [05:03] during the boot sequence [05:03] Theres not boot sequence [05:04] Just boots straight into ubuntu [05:04] malditoDev: if you cd to the directory that apache is serving ( i think its /var/www on ubuntu), and do "ls -l", it should show you what group and user owns all the files. [05:04] Dylan____ hold the power button until the machine turns off. Turn it back on and tap shift over and over again as it boots. [05:04] malditoDev: better yet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/386928/default-permissions-for-var-www [05:04] Ok [05:06] What do i do now [05:06] I got advanced options [05:06] Hi, can anyone help me install skype? I have been at it from yesterday [05:07] Probably1ndy I get this from /var/www [05:07] !skype | muhsin [05:07] muhsin: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [05:07] !nomodeset | Dylan____ i would try nomodeset [05:07] Dylan____ i would try nomodeset: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [05:07] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 10 19:01 [05:07] In recovery move ubuntu with linux generic [05:07] Theres two recover modes [05:08] Dylan____ follow these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu [05:09] malditoDev: hmm... that looks correct. i think. [05:10] ubottu: Can you check the output of sudo apt-get install skype ? The link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/13918242/ [05:10] muhsin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:11] hello [05:11] cfhowlett: Can you check the output of sudo apt-get install skype ? The link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/13918242/ [05:11] malditoDev: i think i would look in your log file for apache and see if its logging any errors. should be in /var/log/apache2 [05:12] could any one help me setup ubunta [05:12] muhsin looks like you need to install a dependency [05:13] muhsin how did you initially install the application, out of curiosity -- from apt-get or from a deb? or a ppa? [05:13] SeriouslyLaugh: I tried suggestions from forums. Can you help me out? I have tried apt-get , deb and synaptic [05:14] muhsin did you install the application initially from a ppa? [05:14] or did you download a file from somewhere and install it manually? [05:14] which log file l should I look at? there several [05:14] I dont know what is ppa? [05:14] access.log dev-access.log dev-error.log error.log other_vhosts_access.log [05:14] SeriouslyLaugh: I dont know what is ppa [05:14] prepraing to install ubunta says i need 6.5 hard drive space free is connected to internet [05:14] do you remember running sudo add-apt-repository muhsin [05:14] SeriouslyLaugh: Yes i did run that [05:15] some one help me [05:15] muhsin run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:15] malditoDev: i'd start with error.log. they're arranged by the sites-enabled [05:15] SeriouslyLaugh: Did that two or three times [05:15] muhsin run sudo apt-get -f install [05:16] SeriouslyLaugh: Done. Next [05:16] run sudo apt-get install skype [05:16] the ppa might be incompatible with your system [05:17] SeriouslyLaugh: Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/13918434/ [05:18] muhsin paste the output of uname -a [05:18] http://oi63.tinypic.com/rabtqr.jpg [05:18] I don't see anything that helps me [05:19] looks like its restarted a few times. [05:19] SeriouslyLaugh: Linux alwathaniya 3.16.0-30-generic #40~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 15 17:43:14 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [05:19] muhsin maybe try sudo apt-get install skybe-bin ? [05:20] you might get sucked into dependency hell [05:20] SeriouslyLaugh: Yeah. I think i am in dependency hell. [05:21] muhsin i would run sudo apt-get purge skype and try to install it via the software center [05:22] if you're getting even more 'depends' messages [05:23] muhsin try these instructions maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241630&p=13109496#post13109496 [05:23] muhsin: i've been googling around for your problem, you're not alone - but i haven't really found a solution that i like. [05:24] looks like there were some versioning issues with skype and 14.04.x [05:28] part [05:32] i first installed a bunch of 32-bit libs and then skype from microsoft's deb [05:32] it works ok in kubuntu 14.04 [05:32] SeriouslyLaugh: you there? [05:33] sup muhsin [05:33] i can share the list of debs if you like [05:33] Is there a way i can escape dependency hell? [05:33] Is there a way i can escape dependency hell? [05:34] I feel guilty. [05:34] muhsin run sudo apt-get purge skype [05:34] muhsin then read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241630&p=13109496#post13109496 [05:35] cfhowlett: good morning [05:35] I can't connect my telephone by bluetooth [05:35] hey hey lotuspsychje [05:35] !bluetooth | happyhobo [05:35] happyhobo: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:36] SeriouslyLaugh: I did this yesterday. [05:36] sorry muhsin i dont have direct experience with that software + that ubuntu version so i can't really help [05:37] aside from googling [05:37] muhsin: added ppa's of any kind? [05:38] Yes. From official website lostuspsychje [05:38] thatdoesn'twork [05:38] Yes. From official website lotuspsychje [05:38] muhsin: we dont support ppa's, remove them [05:38] !ppa | muhsin [05:38] muhsin: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [05:39] lotuspsychje: Please check this out. This is what i meant sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" [05:40] : Please check this out. This is what i meant sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" [05:41] It tries to connect then it says this Failed to launch default file browser The specified location is not mounted You can enter an alternate browser in service settings [05:41] muhsin: did you sudo apt-get update after? [05:41] yes [05:42] yes [05:42] muhsin: added manually or via software center/sources [05:42] Help please [05:43] happyhobo: did you install those tools described in bluetooth wiki? [05:43] It wouldn't get past [05:43] I first did any software sources, then i entered the above command in terminal [05:43] cd /usr/share/doc/bluez/examples/ [05:44] muhsin: try remove/reboot sudo apt-get update and re-add partner repo via sources perhaps? [05:44] happyhobo: tail -f /var/log/syslog while you messing with bluetooth [05:45] happyhobo: see if you getting any errors [05:45] muhsin: what version of ubuntu is this? [05:45] 14.04 tgm4883 [05:46] What am I looking for? [05:46] muhsin: what is the output of 'apt-cache search skype' [05:47] happyhobo: anything related to bluetooth [05:48] Network Manager? [05:48] lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919161/ [05:49] It's 15.10 with Mate lotuspsychje [05:49] muhsin run sudo apt-get install skype skype-bin and paste the output [05:49] muhsin: ok, what about 'apt-get -f install' [05:50] happyhobo: pastebin the whole output please [05:50] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919212/ [05:50] muhsin: try what SeriouslyLaugh said [05:51] SeriouslyLaugh: Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919240/ [05:51] Hi all. Is there a way to assign say "Caps Lock" + alpha keys on cursor movement? [05:52] SeriouslyLaugh: tgm4883: Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919240/ [05:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919268/ lotuspsychje [05:52] Like CL+J = LEFT, CL + I = UP and etc [05:53] OnkelTem: I use xmodmap for this - do you want my .xmodmap file? [05:54] happyhobo: try to install blueman please [05:54] !info blueman | happyhobo [05:54] happyhobo: blueman (source: blueman): Graphical bluetooth manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-1ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1635 kB, installed size 4829 kB [05:55] tgm4883: You there? [05:55] muhsin: I don't suppose I can just talk you out of skype [05:56] muhsin http://www.sysadmindiaries.com/2014/08/how-to-fix-skype-depends-on.html [05:56] here's what i did to install skype from microsoft's deb: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=D1wZNuM8 [05:56] I have blueman installed [05:56] i'm running kubuntu 14.04 64-bit [05:58] the dl url is http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ [05:59] for some reason it's only a 32-bit package [05:59] root@shane-N150:/home/shane# blueman No command 'blueman' found, did you mean: Command 'bluemon' from package 'bluemon' (universe) blueman: command not found [06:00] SeriouslyLaugh: I have a problem when installing libqtwebkit4:i386 . Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919428/ [06:00] happyhobo: no GUI icon to launch? [06:00] OnkelTem: well, here you are if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919303/ [06:01] muhsin did you run all of the commands in that link i pasted? [06:01] There is but if I try to connect it says that the file manager yada yada won't connect try new browser file not mounted [06:02] SeriouslyLaugh: The third command gives some errors. Please do look at the pastebin [06:02] happyhobo: try to check your whole syslog and dmesg logs, to see whats going on [06:03] muhsin run sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing [06:04] SeriouslyLaugh: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [06:04] muhsin now do sudo apt-get clean [06:04] muhsin: did you install any other software in the past with ppa's? [06:05] Greetings! :) [06:06] lotuspsychje: This is the second software i installed (first is openssh-server) after fresh installation of ubuntu. So i am sure no other ppa [06:06] failed to launch default browser [06:06] the specified location is not mounted [06:06] You can enter an alternate browser in service settings [06:06] muhsin: updated to latest 14.04.3? [06:07] I just installed ubuntu-mate 15.10 on a fresh laptop with 2 SSDs in RAID 0. But I just get the grub> command [06:07] How do i do that? [06:07] muhsin stick with me here buddy. there's a list of commands you need to run. [06:07] run sudo apt-get clean [06:07] Done [06:07] muhsin run sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [06:08] SeriouslyLaugh: Done [06:08] muhsin run sudo apt-get update [06:08] I can't find this service settings lotuspsychje [06:08] I installed dmadm and did a boot-repair to no avail. Here's the boot-repair summary http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919483/ [06:08] SeriouslyLaugh: just took a look at that link, you can install 32-bit libs by appending :i386 to the end of the package name [06:09] !raid | carrera [06:09] carrera: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [06:09] carrera: i wouldnt use 2 ssd's in raid myself mate [06:09] lotuspsychje, no advantage? [06:10] It's a setting, a setting I've looked for a while for [06:10] carrera: store your data an the second next to each other, 1 for Os [06:10] carrera: then tweak the Os ssd for ubuntu [06:10] SeriouslyLaugh: I did that. I got some messages after it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13919669/ [06:11] lotuspsychje, sorry, I didn't get that and you didn't tell me why you wouldn't RAID 0 a pair of SSD drives [06:12] carrera: I'm not sure I see the point of RAID 0 on 2 SSDs [06:12] carrera: personal opinion, i dont like raid layouts [06:12] lotuspsychje: well that's just silly :) [06:12] tgm4883, I get 1071 MB/s read [06:13] tgm4883, whereas I was getting only 520 MB/s out of one of my Samsung 850 Pro drives [06:13] what's a good wallpaper package? [06:13] i want to get some cool wallpapers on my ubuntu [06:13] carrera: sweet, you can win an appendage measuring contest. [06:14] where is service settings [06:14] carrera: maybe you should talk to the ##hardware guys about raid + ssd [06:14] MattiMo, https://interfacelift.com/ [06:14] nice i like those a lot [06:14] is this the package you use? [06:14] lotuspsychje, thanks, I will [06:14] does anyone know the easiest way for muhsin to remove duplicate entries in their sources.list offhand? [06:15] this one is really cool - https://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details/3994/bixby_bridge_-_hazy_dusk.html [06:15] SeriouslyLaugh: edit the file with vim? [06:15] linux mint 16 386 didn't hve this issue [06:15] is it the 64 bit? [06:16] SeriouslyLaugh: "sort -u" [06:16] Hey [06:16] i think. [06:16] or awk, awk '!a[$0]++' input.txt [06:16] according to the google. [06:17] tgm4883, appendage measuring? [06:18] lotuspsychje: please help me find this service setting and helped me figure out what to do with the browser and mounting [06:18] carrera: nevermind. I saw you're attempting to fakeraid 2 SSD's in a RAID 0 for your boot drive. I want nothing to do with that [06:18] muhsin run cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [06:19] actually disregard that, i dont know how to fix this [06:19] hmm. doesn't running RAID on an SSD interfere with TRIM? or am I making things up because i'm tired? [06:19] takes some finess and detective work muhsin [06:19] http://askubuntu.com/questions/120621/how-to-fix-duplicate-sources-list-entry [06:19] SeriouslyLaugh: just have him go into the sources gui and uncheck the boxes [06:20] SeriouslyLaugh: :( . Thanks anyways [06:20] yeah out of my wheelhouse, not sure what to check and uncheck without being able to see them all [06:20] Probably1ndy: running encrypted lvm on SSD interferes with TRIM... not sure about RAID... [06:20] "uncheck the ones that are for the partner repo" [06:21] i'm thinking /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_trusty_partner_binary-amd64_Packages does't exactly look like a skype related repo [06:21] SeriouslyLaugh: that's the repo that skype is in [06:21] partner repo [06:22] tgm, Software NOT Fake RAID mate [06:22] muhsin see tgm4883's comment -- you need to disable those repos [06:23] carrera: still don't want any part of it [06:23] tgm4883, Software NOT Fake RAID mate. I said I added dmadm earlier [06:23] carrera: and don't call me mate, buddy ;) [06:23] tgm4883, :-) [06:23] tgm4883, fine, no one is forcing you dude! [06:23] tgm4883: Which one should i uncheck? [06:24] muhsin: Do you see the partner repos listed? [06:24] carrera: follow auxy's advise, use them next to each other :p [06:25] tgm4883: There are 6 boxes [06:25] lotuspsychje, thank you [06:25] carrera: and visit ##linux-ssd for tweaks :p [06:25] muhsin: 6? [06:25] lotuspsychje, thanks for the channel pointers dude, you're awesome [06:26] tgm4883: Yes . Six. I am surprised too. [06:26] muhsin: ok do this [06:26] lotuspsychje: have you washed your hands of my problem? [06:26] lol [06:26] !patience | happyhobo [06:26] happyhobo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [06:26] muhsin: pastebin the output of 'grep -R -i partner /etc/apt/*' [06:27] happyhobo: last thing i asked you, is to investigate your full syslog and dmesg for errors [06:27] I don't know how. [06:28] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920038/ [06:28] happyhobo: log viewer icon or /var/log/... [06:28] I don't understand. [06:28] muhsin: ok, close the sources list dealy. [06:29] tgm4883: I didnt understand [06:29] muhsin: then do 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list' and 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list.save' [06:30] happyhobo: there's a reason your bluetooth doesnt work, so please investigate your logs [06:30] I don't know how. [06:30] tgm4883: Done. What next? [06:31] muhsin: then edit '/etc/apt/sources.list'. There are 3 lines we're going to delete. "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner" "deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner" and "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty partner" [06:31] muhsin: also do 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.save' [06:33] tgm4883: Done. Next? [06:34] muhsin: ok do 'sudo apt-get update' [06:35] tgm4883: ok [06:35] muhsin: paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep skype' [06:36] maybe it would be easier just to not use skype :P [06:36] Probably1ndy: probably [06:36] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920211/ [06:37] muhsin: ok cool [06:37] muhsin: so now we're more or less back at a clean slate [06:37] tgm4883: Now how do i proceed to get skype? (Too excited) [06:38] muhsin: ok, so lets try this again. Do you have the software sources thing open? If so, close and reopen it [06:38] tgm4883: canonical partners are unchecked [06:39] muhsin: ok, do this "wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb" [06:40] I can't find my logs dagnabbibbit [06:40] happyhobo: logs for what? [06:40] see why my bluetooth doesn't work [06:41] happyhobo: /var/log/ usually, but I have no specific idea for BT [06:41] tgm4883: What next? [06:41] muhsin: ok, now 'sudo dpkg -i skype-install.deb' [06:43] lotuspsychje: there are so many of them [06:43] tgm4883: Still didnt work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920365/ [06:44] is that the full output? if so, it's still installing muhsin [06:44] muhsin: what do you mean, that's not done [06:45] lotuspsychje: I just looked at syslog and I didn't see anything for bluetooth [06:45] tgm4883: Sorry. Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920397/ [06:46] sudo apt-get -f install might work now muhsin [06:46] muhsin: ok, so how about 'sudo apt-get -f install' [06:46] why mir is better than xorg? [06:47] yolan this is a support channel. check out #ubuntu-discuss for off topic stuff [06:47] !mir | yolan (here for details) [06:47] yolan (here for details): Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir [06:47] tgm4883: SeriouslyLaugh: Did it. [06:47] muhsin: and, output? [06:47] tgm4883: SeriouslyLaugh: What should i do next? [06:48] tgm4883: SeriouslyLaugh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920464/ [06:48] if it says processing triggers, it's still installing muhsin :) [06:49] muhsin: awesome, so when you get to a prompt, do 'skype' [06:49] tgm4883: SeriouslyLaugh: No it is over. [06:49] neat, should be installed now [06:49] * tgm4883 assumes that is the launch command for skype [06:49] ty tgm4883 for helping me on this one [06:52] SeriouslyLaugh: yw === holucon_ is now known as holucon [06:53] muhsin did it install OK? === sebastian_ is now known as SebastianTCL [06:55] tgm4883: SeriouslyLaugh: I didnt do anything after sudo apt-get -f install [06:55] muhsin type skype and hit enter [06:55] see if it launches [06:56] SeriouslyLaugh: Command not found [06:57] muhsin: are you running unity? [06:57] i think it runs as a service. he might need to log out and back in again [06:57] SeriouslyLaugh: nah - just run as 'skype' is fine [06:57] SeriouslyLaugh: that would be pretty weird if it did [06:58] muhsin: output of 'dpkg -l | grep skype' [07:01] hey [07:01] hi [07:02] tgm4883: rc skype 4.3.0.37-1 i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are [07:03] muhsin: hmm, try this again 'sudo dpkg -i skype-install.deb' [07:05] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920815/ [07:05] Quick question - does ginn still work properly in ubuntu 15.04 or have we moved to a different system for handling user-set touchscreen inputs? [07:05] muhsin: ok, how about 'sudo apt-get install libqtwebkit4' === kingplusplus_ is now known as kingplusplus [07:06] skype needs the 32-bit libs [07:06] sudo apt-get -f install might be in order again [07:06] akik: it's not complaining about them though [07:07] I know the settings for that are in /etc/ginn/wishes.xml but some of them seem to conflict with the current multitouch gestures (mostly 3 or 4 finger touches) as seen in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch [07:07] SeriouslyLaugh: nah, that finished just fine. I think it can't install this package for some reason [07:07] i'd personally run it again just to see [07:08] per this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/504689/cant-install-skype-4-3-on-ubuntu-14-04-64-bit [07:08] tgm4883: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [07:08] muhsin: you ran "sudo apt-get install libqtwebkit4"? [07:08] 'After this if you get any error like cannot install 'libqtwebkit4:i386' or some other package, try this command.' [07:08] sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing [07:08] tgm4883: Yes i did. These are the errors i am getting [07:09] tgm4883: Yes i did. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [07:09] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [07:09] muhsin: are you running any apt commands in another window? [07:09] muhsin: it's possible that it just decided now was a good time to update package lists I suppose [07:09] i have CyberghostVPN Special Editon, OkayFreedom VPN, F-secure Freedome - 1 year License for 10 USD/unit - backup from promos, legit offers, if wana buy PM me [07:10] tgm4883: muhsin: here are my notes about installing skype from microsoft's deb if it helps any http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=g77YXGzX [07:10] hiya: no, go away [07:10] tgm4883, ok if you need PM me ok? [07:10] bye [07:10] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13920942/ [07:12] muhsin: lets try the 'sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing' [07:12] tgm4883: Nothing. [07:13] muhsin: how about "sudo apt-get install libqtwebkit4:i386"? [07:13] tgm4883: 0 upgraded,0 ..., 0... etc [07:14] wth [07:14] muhsin just for fun run sudo apt-get -f install [07:14] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13921019/ [07:14] one more time [07:15] muhsin: yea try that again [07:15] if it doesn't do anything, we can try installing libqt4-opengl:i386 [07:15] tgm4883: 0 upgraded,0 ..., 0... etc [07:15] muhsin: 'sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl:i386' [07:16] tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13921062/ [07:17] hi ,Does the ubuntu overwrite the cups? [07:18] dependency rabbit hole. at this point i'd try the notes from akik http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=g77YXGzX [07:20] gotta run, good luck guys [07:20] This is why we don't run microsoft products on Linux === Dnm is now known as Guest27598 [07:33] what was the command to go into full screen CLI and come back to GUI? [07:39] SebastianTCL: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to CLI, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back === Acilim_A is now known as Acilim [07:53] hello [07:53] nar_: hello [08:13] hi [08:16] Tried to set up vm with mysql and I can't get my host computer running mysql workbench to connect to my VM mysql? any help please [08:17] any persian here? [08:17] !fa [08:31] is there a way to allow FTP transfers only over a certain network interface? [08:31] essentially, I want to share out a folder on my server via FTP [08:31] but only over my secondary NIC which on a separate network [08:32] also, this is to be access locally on the network [08:39] what's the command to know which version im running on? [08:39] thanks === Dakshah is now known as DakshDroid === DakshDroid is now known as Group === Group is now known as DDroid [08:50] mail is working on my system, I can send mail between users on the system. I can send out, I can even connect to 127.0.0.1:25 and send mail IN. But, when I connect externally to x.x.x.x:25 when I do the RCPT TO: I get a Temporary lookup failure. What do I need to change to allow this mail to come in [08:59] jj [08:59] ll [09:00] oli [09:00] cuentanos algo nene [09:00] oli olli [09:01] donde esta tu ps4 ? [09:01] ioiu [09:07] how can I edit my boot files from ubuntu? [09:07] hello, can anyone recommend an easy method to backup a live remote server large disk locally? [09:12] I found a quick and dirty trick to show old PPAs in a terminal [09:12] awk '$1 == "deb" || $1 == "deb-src" && $3 !~ /foobar/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list [09:12] replace foobar with the distro you are on [09:13] I got alot of PPAs showing utopic and I am on xenial now === Dnm is now known as Guest51420 === ludza1 is now known as ludza === shawniverson is now known as Guest68383 [09:29] does anyone know where sonarr places mono originally === daniel is now known as Guest73492 [09:43] i need help for python in ubuntu [09:43] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 26, in import lsb_release ImportError: No module named lsb_release [09:44] i get this output each time i type in a command [09:44] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 26, in import lsb_release ImportError: No module named lsb_release [09:44] please help [09:44] i am trying to install pip [09:44] is anyone here to help?? [09:45] is anyone here??? [09:45] buzzzz [09:48] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 26, in import lsb_release ImportError: No module named lsb_release [09:49] how to solve this : Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 26, in import lsb_release ImportError: No module named lsb_releaseTraceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/lsb_release", line 26, in import lsb_release ImportError: No module named lsb_release [09:49] any help will be appreciated [09:49] help [09:49] help [09:49] help [09:50] somebody help [09:51] are you all alive? [09:51] * yrj slaps Afforess around a bit with a large fishbot [09:52] /UNIGNORE Afforess [09:52] noob trying to modify boot sequence file to dual boot tinycore and ubuntu [09:52] anyone can help? [09:53] http://pastebin.com/SBdKRKaj === lilstevie_ is now known as lilstevie [10:05] help [10:05] hey, why is the screen display settings utterly crap and is there a better tool to manage my multiple-display config? [10:05] !help | uzumaki [10:05] uzumaki: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:05] I'm tired of fighting that dumbass widget that half functions, and having it reset on every restart. [10:05] !patience [10:05] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [10:05] hi [10:06] !help [10:06] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:06] !scan [10:06] Scanning software: Simple-Scan (GNOME), Xsane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR [10:06] !OCR [10:06] For OCR (optical character recognition) software in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR for packages and instructions. [10:06] !files [10:06] An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview see also: man hier [10:06] !dc [10:06] Direct Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P [10:07] !whoami [10:07] use @whoami [10:07] @whoami [10:07] urgh. well if the question on screen display is too much does anyone have any suggestions for a file browser in Ubuntu? the stock one is trash [10:09] explain what you're looking for [10:10] anything that is better than the stock file browser in Ubuntu. I'd like to be able to copy+paste the file path easily, modify my favorites, and just not be so... minimal? [10:10] orf_: press "ctrl+L" and you can copy/paste a path [10:11] I don't know, I guess it does the job but it just reminds me a bit of a childs toy, no sharp edges and very simple. [10:11] is there anything better? [10:11] better is very subjective [10:11] that's neat, thanks mcphail [10:11] so I'm using vsftpd, and I uncommented the line chroot_local_user=YES [10:12] but I can still cd out of the home directory when logged in as user via FTP [10:12] sure better is subjective, but I sure hope there is something better [10:13] orf_: to make a new favourite, change into the directory, and "Bookmarks->Bookmark this location" [10:15] so no suggestions on a better file manager for a power user then? [10:16] orf_: you can also directly share with samba, ftp and sftp shares from the stock file manager. Does enough for me, so haven't felt the need to explore further. But there are several file managers in the repos [10:16] orf_: terminal [10:17] yeah the sharing is cool, just never need them. I'd just like something with a bit more infomation density than nautilus [10:18] ok, what about the screen display panel. I love Ubuntu but thats the biggest turnoff for me [10:19] orf_: no idea. I don't have multiple monitors [10:19] orf_, see if this is what you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander [10:20] I've got 3 monitors, the draggable monitors in the settings panel barely work. I can't drag one past another one for no reason, but I can drag a monitor two feet above my current one. [10:20] why the hell is that useful, 99% of people just want to line 2+ monitors up in a row and be able to alter the positions in that row, not have some crazy ass arbitrary display setup. [10:21] plus it seems to reset back to a messed up configuration after most updates/restarts. Is there a config file I can manually manage? === nya is now known as Guest88324 [10:23] orf_: what video card(s) do you have [10:23] standard intel one [10:23] sec === greyback__ is now known as greyback [10:24] "Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller" [10:25] didn't know intel supported 3 monitors [10:25] stick around, maybe someone knows a good way to set that up [10:25] it does with a docking station, but even with 2 it was a nightmare [10:34] hi there, I'm running xubuntu 15.10 and cannot mount my usb DVD drive, any suggestions? === BalTun is now known as baltun === farid is now known as Guest41775 === baltun is now known as BalTun [10:40] gratefulfrog, tried on other PC? [10:41] boquete_asus: tried it on same pc, booted on widnows, worked fine, also on another asus laptop runint 14.10 worked fine... [10:42] gratefulfrog, tried check in Gparted? Maybe not mounted [10:43] boquete_asus: correct, it is not mounted, but how to get it to mount? I tried: sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/bob/cdrom after creating the directory cdrom, but [10:43] boquete_asus: that replies: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error [10:45] boquete_asus: it mounts with commercial CDs but not with home written ones (written under windows or ubuntu) [10:48] hello, i'm trying to run a script that requires user input on the first boot using rc.local [10:48] but the echo is off, how do i turn it on in bash? [10:55] hi [10:55] i have a dell xps 13 3450 [10:55] and i installed lubuntu [10:55] does anyone can help me installed wireless driver, please ? [10:55] marcfp: which chipset mate? === maotora is now known as ArchNoob [10:56] tanuki: 3a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 43a3 (rev 08) [10:56] lotuspsychje: this one [10:56] !b43 | marcfp [10:56] marcfp: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [10:56] Navid: lotuspsychje ahaps [10:56] thank's [10:57] ok, it was stty echo [10:57] marcfp: you can look on ubuntu iso for broadcom firmware also [10:57] bye [11:05] stty echo didn't work on a rc.local script [11:05] how can i make user input work on rc.local script? [11:06] Hi all. I se a webpage someting.com/p3 is ther eany way to find what file it is linked to? i want to make a smal script to post get requests to it [11:07] Shogoot: maybe more somthing for the ##programming channel? === melba is now known as Guest11008 [11:07] lotuspsychje: sounds more like a script than a program [11:07] Tsutsukakushi: ? [11:08] Shogoot: why do you need to know what the file is actually called in the webserver when you get it anyways with the url http://domain.tld/p3 ? [11:08] Tsutsukakushi, cant post a get parameter toa directory... i need the file as well. [11:09] you can, but you'll usually get a index.html [11:09] or some other such file instead [11:09] when you go to a site with just the domain you do a get for the root directory / [11:16] anyone got idea how to make user input work on rc.local? or should i run the script on first bootup some other way? [11:17] Tsutsukakushi: simple answer. Don't. It isn't designed for that [11:17] TJ-: got any other way for me to run a script on a first bootup? [11:18] Tsutsukakushi: plymouthd (the splash manager) has facilities for asking for and receiving user input. Things like the cryptsetup tools use it for getting the encryption pass-phrase. What do you need to do, exactly? [11:20] i need some simple parameters like username and stuff [11:20] plymouth seems like a good solution [11:21] but why do you need those parameters, out of interest? === nya is now known as Guest6151 [11:22] Tsutsukakushi: see e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth#A.22plymouth_ask-question.22 === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_afk [11:26] orf_: one usage could be to enter a passphrase for a private key [11:28] the problem with taking user input in a script running as UID 0 is the potential for unguarded overflows or command execution [11:30] Hm, I am hitting this error while using ubuntu-sdk with simple qml example: http://pastebin.com/xs8AKaxz - am I missing something in the installation? === ^cj^ is now known as ^CJ^ === Guest68383 is now known as shawniverson [11:37] can someone please help me modify my boot up file so that i can dual boot ubuntu and tinycorelinux from the hd directory i created: /home/sebastian/tinycore here's my boot up file: http://pastebin.com/UKmzbZn3 [11:38] hi all i have a crontab task (with mysqldump command) when run the task thhe backup was generated in 0 bytes, but when run same command manually it generate the correct backup, any advice how to know why? thanks [11:40] Good Morning [11:40] I just spent close to 1 hour hand holding a new ubuntu user [11:40] Does anyone know how to install virtualbox guest additions? [11:40] he kept purging a "meta package" mysql-server [11:41] I have spent the best part of an hour and cant find the iso [11:41] andybrine: maybe the #vbox guys can help you [11:41] and did not know to purge the actual package mysql-server-5.5 [11:41] removing a meta package should also prompt to remove its child packages [11:41] awesome thanks lotuspsychje [11:41] this would be more user friendly [11:42] where can I submit this as a bug report [11:42] the package would be apt? or apt-get? [11:42] !bug | retrojeff [11:42] retrojeff: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [11:43] I dont know what package it would be under [11:44] retrojeff: See #4 [11:44] oh the package name is "apt" [11:45] does anyone have any experience with HP's smart array p420 controller? I have a harddrive that was previously setup with an HPA region, but I want to remove that, however doesn't seem hdparm can see the full hard drive sectors anymore [11:46] TJ-: these people will get root anyways, it's ok for them to get code execution [11:47] daum: is "hdparm -N" not showing a difference, and definitely reporting a lower value than the known number of physical sectors? [11:48] TJ-, http://pastebin.com/1W7z2AE2 [11:48] has anyone got experience installing virtualbox guest additions on Ubuntu? [11:48] it just knows that it is enabled [11:48] I always seem to have this issue [11:48] TJ-, the drives have to be in a raid 0 array for the OS to be able to see them [11:49] so i imagine I must have to use some specific software to interact thru the raid itself maybe? [11:49] daum: what is the make/model of drive? [11:49] andybrine: So far you've not told us what your issue even is [11:49] intel 3500s [11:50] andybrine, apt-cache search additions shows something [11:50] andybrine: what you're probably missing is the build-essential package in the vm [11:50] i think build-essential is a meta package [11:50] I have installed the guest additions repository and i cant mount the iso in virtualbox to install. hateball [11:51] oh ok, I will look at installing that. akik [11:51] andybrine: but you should pastebin the errors you get [11:52] virtualbox is working perfectly, I just want to install guest additions === ^CJ^ is now known as ^cj^ [11:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1525193 [11:52] daum: the Intel datasheets shows the HPA commands are supported [11:52] Launchpad bug 1525193 in apt (Ubuntu) "removing a meta package should also remove its children" [Undecided,New] [11:52] TAADAA!!!!!!!!! [11:52] a bug report :-) === ^cj^ is now known as ^CJ^ [11:52] TJ-, right so when this hard drive was in a non-raid controller I had over provisionedi t from testing [11:53] now it is behind that raid controller, and i can't seem to figure out how to remove the HPA area, so the raid controller is seeing it from its OP'd sized [11:53] I thought once you installed the guest additions iso it would appear in virtual box to mount and then install [11:53] daum: well that makes sense; when it's behind a RAID controller you're talking to the controller's logical presentation, not the real physical [11:53] andybrine, you have to invoke it from the vb control [11:54] wow the apt package has a lot of bugs [11:54] right - so my question is if anyone had experience with this specific controller, trying to figure out how to change it from within the controller itself [11:54] probley has the most [11:54] cfhowlett, how do I do that? [11:55] andybrine, start a VM, then see Device > insert Guest Additions CDROM [11:56] hi, I need info on ubuntu phone? can I ask here? [11:56] cfhowlett I cant see that menu. I thought that was what you meant. Its not showing [11:56] !phone | Spacedog_ie [11:56] Spacedog_ie: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [11:56] TJ-, on server boot I went into the raid controller setup but don't see anywhere to modify the SSD other than just add it to an array, but didnt see anything in terms of the hd sectors size, its onyl seeing it as its OP'd size [11:57] andybrine, what version of vbox?? [11:57] cfhowlett, im using VBox 5.10 [11:57] there is an option in my setting to show it, its just not appearing :s [11:57] andybrine: are you saying you can not see the window of the vbox vm? maybe come out of full screen for that [11:58] TJ-: is the behaviour of plymouth ask-question different when run in rc.local than in a regular interactive shell? [11:58] andybrine: the window controls might auto hide but they're still there === cpaelzer_afk is now known as cpaelzer [11:59] just did a Brand New ubuntu 14.4 install. Set myself up a user, sjjenni, logged in and tried to mail sjjenni, it too the message, but I have no mail waiting. What do I need to add to make mail work, even on the local machine === marshal0605 is now known as marshal0505 [12:00] akik, im just restarting my vm [12:00] akik, yep, they are not showing!! [12:00] andybrine, http://tinypic.com/r/255rno9/9 [12:01] very frustrating :( [12:01] andybrine: you should see file, machine, view, input, devices and help [12:01] Hi, On Ubuntu Wily, how can i upscale VLC so it will looks nice on HiDPI screen? [12:01] andybrine: maybe you could make a screenshot and upload it to imgur.com? [12:02] cfhowlett, I can see your menu there. Just cant see it here. I will upload a screenshot [12:02] maybe it's a graphics glitch that takes out the menu :) [12:02] akik, drop out of full screen display for your menus [12:02] hi all [12:03] I have two files with the same number of rows [12:03] I want to sort file A alphabetically, and for each row sorted in A, sort the row in B [12:03] Any ideas? [12:03] retrojeff: I've updated your bug 1525193 with an explanation of why it is "Won't Fix" [12:03] bug 1525193 in apt (Ubuntu) "removing a meta package should also remove its children" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525193 [12:04] cfhowlett: no, i don't have the problem [12:04] Here is the pastbin: http://pasteboard.co/2N9Rt6tM.png [12:05] andybrine, drop out of full screen display to see your machine menus. sorry akik [12:06] http://pasteboard.co/2N9XvokB.png thats out of full screen [12:06] still not showing :s [12:07] andybrine: is that a desktop environment where the menus are at the top left of the screen? [12:09] TJ-, don't suppose you have experience with hpssacli it looks like that is what i can use to interact with the raid controller, but i don't see any command for actually modifying/removing the HPA area of the drive [12:09] Hiyas all [12:10] akik, yes. And this menu only shows "Quit" [12:10] lol === Jazzy_J1 is now known as Jazzy_J [12:11] wha.. [12:11] yea, its frustrating. It should be there, its just not! Driving me crazy [12:13] andybrine: you should find the vbox additions iso also at the installation location of the vbox package [12:13] andybrine: it's just a little bit more work to mount it to the vm [12:14] daum: I would fully expect a controller to actively try to prevent the 'user' being able to access the HPA, since the controller's job is to present a logical view of whatever devices it controls [12:14] akik, I would like to be able to see that menu though [12:14] thats whats annoying [12:15] andybrine: sorry can't help you there. the wish for minimal ui's seems to be the problem [12:15] TJ-, right understood. any ideas what route i shoudl take to get the HPA region removed aside from getting this out of the raid controller, removing it, then reconnecting it to the raid controller? [12:15] its showing in the settings: http://pasteboard.co/2NazxTnK.png [12:15] Hello [12:16] andybrine: are you using ubuntu with a supported version? [12:16] hello [12:16] daum: That was what I was going to suggest; it's the only safe way in this scenario. Last thing you want is something mediating/translating the command [12:16] !flavors [12:16] !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu. [12:17] there's someone here? [12:17] is there [12:17] akik, I think so. Ubuntu 15.10 - VBox 5.10 [12:17] plunter, ask your ubuntu questions. [12:17] TJ-, sounds good thanks again! [12:17] it is easy to install playonlinux on Ubuntu Mate? [12:17] what do you guys think about Ubuntu Mate for playing [12:18] plunter, I think you should stop wasting time asking, download, make a USB and test it for yourself. [12:18] plunter, try it, it is useless to poll here. [12:18] andybrine, Your status line is also not showing. [12:19] bgardner yea, thats the issue [12:20] Ok, I have worked it out!! [12:20] Thanks Everyone [12:20] andybrine, What was the secret sauce? [12:20] It doesnt show! To get it to show I have to press the hose key and the home button [12:20] lol :) [12:21] Host Key + Home [12:21] andybrine: can you get a new screenshot? [12:22] will do akik. one moment :) [12:23] There's something I don't get about environment variables and the path... I added this to my /etc/environment "ANDROID_HOME=/usr/share/android-sdk/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools" but still no luck [12:23] C_minus: what is/is not happening? what is your expectation? [12:24] i have some software to make cross-platform apps (cordova) when I attempt to build a project it says ANDROID_HOME env variable is not set [12:25] Also, I don't understand the syntax of the PATH bit... why do certain entries begin with $ and others dont? [12:25] In the colon-separated part [12:26] I should be able to type "android" into terminal and begin the android manager thing, but it's not found. i have to navigate to directory every time. [12:27] akik, I cant take a screenshot of that as the mouse pointer is in use [12:27] one of those strange things [12:27] !path [12:27] The $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables [12:27] but when you press "Host Key" and "Home" it brings up the menu [12:27] andybrine: create a full screen screenshot [12:28] akik, I have tried it. Just not working while im accessing the menu [12:28] 16:00:36 - rafaelcenteio: Hi, I have an HP g62 notebook. I have the option of Fan Always On on the Bios enabled and it works fine. But after suspending the computer the behaviour of the fans changes. Do you know if there is something installed that could be interfering (i.e. passing over the BIOS configuration)? Thanks. [12:29] andybrine: didn't print screen button work in creating a screenshot? [12:30] akik, no it didnt work at all === OS-10126 is now known as Cy7h3 [12:30] sad face :( [12:30] That doesn't really explain the benefit of Dollar Sign in the PATH="..." expression [12:31] C_minus: firstly, /etc/environment is used by PAM ("man 7 PAM") and is read by the PAM login tools, see e.g. under /etc/pam.d/ [12:31] andybrine: can you use your phone? :) [12:31] C_minus: $XXXX is replaced by a variable's contents [12:32] yea ok. lol. I will do that now. [12:32] TJ So "$ANDROID_SDK_ROOT" in the colon separated path represents "ANDROID_SDK_ROOT=/usr/share/android-sdk/android-sdk-linux" which I defined below? [12:33] C_minus: changes made to /etc/environment will not show up for users until they next log-in === Cy7h3 is now known as OS-10126 [12:33] C_minus: no, it represents just the value "/usr/share/android-sdk/android-sdk-linux" [12:33] That's what i mean [12:34] C_minus: OK; best to be precise else amazing misunderstandings occur [12:34] Yes I wasn't clear. [12:34] akik: here you go: http://pasteboard.co/2NbOz7bg.jpg [12:34] High level, PATH is scanned when I type in a command, to see if an executable with that name resides in any of the listed directories? [12:35] C_minus: assuming nothing has been changed in the PAM config then the value of ANDROID_HOME, if set in /etc/environment, should be available to new log-ins [12:35] C_minus: correct [12:35] andybrine: so host + home only shows the devices menu? [12:36] akik, thats my fault. I only had devices selected. [12:36] There seem to be many ways to change env variables. I saw some files called .bash_profile and whatnot. Are these loaded each time bash is opened? [12:36] andybrine: thank you [12:37] Hi! Whenever I try to connect to a WPA2 wifi network I get a popup asking to choose between TLS, LEAP, FAST, Tunneled TLS or Protected PEAP. But I just want to enter my WPA--code and be done with it. Can anyone help me? [12:39] I have no problem with it on Windows but I can't connect on Ubuntu [12:39] TJ So let's say I add PROGRAM_HOME=/usr/lib/some-program at the bottom of /etc/environment. Does that mean I can then go to the PATH bit and add a new entry in the colon-delimited list -- "$PROGRAM_HOME/bin:" [12:39] akik, no problem. Thanks for your help also. Here is a pic with the full menu: http://pasteboard.co/2Nc6l1Du.jpg [12:40] why when I send: "mail sjjenni", on my own machine does it now arrive in my box on that machin, it tells me "no mail" === melba is now known as Guest40217 [12:42] I would like to change the permissions of the /var/www folder so i can add files in it and edit it from Filezilla. How can i do that? [12:43] hello, does anyone read this message? [12:43] !patience | Guest40217 [12:43] Guest40217: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [12:43] Guest40217, we see you [12:44] Guest40217: wrong approach; recommendation is to add the user that wants to add files to a group that has write permissions [12:44] sorry, i thought i had to login somewhere >.< [12:44] hey [12:44] What? [12:45] how are you evryone [12:45] TJ-: How do i add a user to the root group or change the group for the folder, because it's a root folder [12:45] Guest40217: see for example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www [12:45] mido, this is a support channel. stay on topic or chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic [12:46] TJ-: Thank you for your fast support ;) === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss|lunch [12:49] Hi sorry I'm probably being really dumb but I can't see why my environment variables for the Android SDK aren't weorking properly... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13928675/ [12:50] Hi guys! What happens if i write in crontab '*/35 * * * * ...'? [12:51] It will executed at every hour at 35 minutes? [12:51] I should be able to type "android" from any dir and call up the android tools. but each time, I have to navigate to where it's held and type "./android" [12:51] Or every hour at 1 and 36 minutes? === me is now known as Guest12646 [12:53] Heey another question, if you're the only user on the Raspberry pi and your home pc. is it still a bad idea to use the 777 chmod command on the /var/www? [12:54] Guest40217: Yes [12:55] png [12:55] hateball: but if there are no other users, why would it be unsafe? They can't just log in to my user account and they cannot create a user. So why not? [12:56] Guest40217: it's bad practice, there are standards for a reason [12:56] if you're saying your Pi serves only to the local LAN and isn't port forwarded to provide services to the internet facing interface, then it's not *so* bad, but learning to do things right prevents issues in future [12:57] C_minus: PATH has syntax error: "... $/usr/lib/Soulseek ..." [12:57] Guest40217: There's most likely other services running on your machine as well, under different accounts. If any of those get comprised, they suddenly also have access to /var/www [12:58] daftykins: Hmmm well, i dont use it then :P I just used this : sudo adduser www-data [12:58] sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www [12:58] sudo chmod -R g+rwX /var/www [12:58] TJ - oh is it that the dollar sign shouldn't be there for that entry? [12:58] Guest40217: works for me, although the document root is /var/www/html on 14.04+ so that would've been the wrong path [12:58] Hey [12:58] hi [12:58] C_minus: "/usr/lib/Soulseek" is presumably a path, not supposed to be pretending to be a variable [12:59] C_minus: also, ANDROID_HOME etc must be defined BEFORE using them in PATH [12:59] C_minus: else they equate to "" [12:59] daftykins: no i wanted the www folder to be able to use in filezilla and swap files and stuff :D it just worked! So happy <3 [12:59] So PATH="......" should be written last in that file? [13:00] Guest40217: my point is that /var/www/html/ is the one on 14.04 where the actual served content is put, but whatever goes. [13:00] C_minus: yes, the $XXXX is evaluated when it is parsed, not when the user requires PATH [13:00] ok thanks TJ im gonna log out and in so see you on the other side [13:01] daftykins: I know but i'm only using it local so far :D [13:01] *facepalm* i'm gonna just let you get on with it ;) i don't think my point is conveyed [13:02] daftykins: haha i just dont understand, but no worrys ! it works hahaha Thanks for the helps [13:02] TJ I still can't reach the Android program [13:04] C_minus_: what does "env" report right now ? [13:05] TJ it's strange, I can type into terminal "cd $ANDROID_HOME/tools" which is where the executable is held. Then typing "./android" launches the application. But I can't just type "android" in any directory, which is what I'm supposed to be able to do I think. [13:05] C_minus_: no, if you want to call a program in the ../tools directory you need to have that EXACT directory in the PATH [13:06] Ubuntu freezes. What to do? [13:06] rgij: thaw it out? [13:06] rgij: more precise details might help us help you :) [13:07] TJ - env http://paste.ubuntu.com/13929290/ [13:07] !say Hello [13:08] TJ After a few minutes of work operation system starts more and more slowly working and eventually freezes [13:08] TJ does it need a colon at the end of the list? [13:10] TJ when freeze lamp of disk I/O is lit [13:10] TJ in itop there are programs that I use [13:15] TJ-: what should I do [13:17] hi, Can someone help me? I reinstalled ubuntu and now i cant boot to windows. The grub screen keeps reappearing [13:17] C_minus_: no, colon is an element separator [13:17] rgij: the slowing down part sounds like the system is running out of RAM and is swapping to a disk swap file [13:17] rgij: check the results of the "free" command to check if the system is overloading the available memory [13:18] TJ-: no, 100% no. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13929564/ [13:19] rgij: OK, next thing to check for is I/O errors from devices, using "dmesg" or looking at /var/log/kern.log [13:19] swap not used .. [13:21] TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13929634/ [13:22] TJ-: my / is /dev/sda1 [13:23] sda2 is giving issues, HFS+ partition ? [13:24] OerHeks: how can I see what is sda2? [13:25] sudo fdisk -l # should tell [13:25] OerHeks: rgij no, sda2 is fine, it's an MSDOS extended partition being probed for a file-system === ^CJ^ is now known as ^cj^ [13:25] rgij: OerHeks that probing looks to be due to BTRFS starting up for ata1.00 [13:27] GParted: http://i.imgur.com/36MTjBz.png [13:28] what is the problem? [13:29] rgij: no sign of anything obvious in the dmesg [13:30] TJ-: this is the main problem :-( [13:31] rgij: what applications are in use when the slow-down, freeze, occurs? [13:31] rgij: are running a desktop session for example, with a browser with several tabs operating? [13:33] TJ-: [13:34] TJ-: Chrome [13:34] TJ-: only Chrome [13:35] TJ-: with only 1-5 tabs === ^cj^ is now known as ^CJ^ === rawagner is now known as rawagner_away [13:41] Hi. I added a PPA and installed some programs. Now i cant install other programs. Can you help me out? [13:42] muhsin: which programs? paste the error [13:42] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair Eric^^. [13:43] muhsin: you installed boot-repair? [13:43] EriC^^: Yes [13:43] did it fix the issue? [13:44] EriC^^: It fixed the critical issue of booting to windows. But now i have some 10 extra entries in grub and i cant install any other programs [13:44] EriC^^: I can somehow deal with extra entries. But i do need to install some programs [13:44] ok, what does it say when you try to install programs? [13:45] is this the right channel for gci? [13:45] mandarj, topic here is ubuntu [13:45] yeah [13:45] im talking about ubuntu's channel for google code-in 2015 [13:46] EriC^^: Now somehow errors are not coming. But yesterday i had the same problem, so i had to reinstall ubuntu. Can you help me uninstall that and remove the repo? [13:46] mandarj: you keep asking same question here, what are you talking about exactly? [13:47] !purgeppa | muhsin [13:47] cfhowlett: I didnt understand. I want to uninstall boot-repair and remove the repo [13:47] mandarj, if you intend to be a coder, learn to use the simple tools - like google: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/12/07/google-code-in-2015-student-registration-now-open/ [13:48] lo [13:48] muhsin, you installed a ppa. PURGE the ppa = remove the ppa [13:48] !ppa-purge | muhsin [13:48] muhsin: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [13:48] halo [13:48] mandarj, try #ubuntu-google [13:48] albratos007: how can we help you? [13:49] just test [13:49] !test | albratos007 [13:49] albratos007: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test ) [13:49] muhsin: for the added entries in grub, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us [13:49] muhsin: paste the link it gives you [13:49] hahah [13:49] okay [13:49] EriC^^: This is the command i entered. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair. So what will i have to enter? Also will it remove boot-repair? [13:50] muhsin: yeah, install ppa-purge [13:50] yeah [13:50] try sudo ppa-purge ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair [13:51] EriC^^: Here is the link you asked for. http://sprunge.us/dUhP. But how do i install ppa-purge? [13:51] sudo apt-get install ppa-purge [13:51] whats ppa-purge [13:51] muhsin, you really should READ the link [13:51] albratos007, do you have ubuntu? [13:51] yes [13:51] why [13:51] !manual | albratos007 [13:51] albratos007: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [13:52] Hi all, whenever i regenerate my cacerts, i always get these two messages "Adding debian:GeoTrust_Global_CA.pem" "Removing debian:GeoTrust_Global_CA.pem" -- anyone know how i get it to stop removing that cert? [13:52] bricas: your on debian? [13:52] lotuspsychje: no. ubuntu 14.04 LTS [13:52] okey [13:53] hey [13:54] bricas: java certificates? [13:54] bricas, seems like a revoked cert [13:55] it should not be an issue, who regenerates cacerts daily? [13:55] lotuspsychje: not java specific no. [13:56] OerHeks: I certainly don't. but I've done it once and now i get that message and i can't connect to slack via ssl because the cert is gone... :) [13:57] i dun messed up somehow. [13:59] bricas: maybe the ##openssl guys know more of it? [13:59] will see. [14:01] Ignore if these questions, should'nt be asked in this channel, but how did you all so much regarding linux? A course or just pure experiance? I know 3 programming languages but i am sure i am nowhere as useful as you guys are. [14:01] !ot | muhsin [14:01] muhsin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:01] muhsin, break your system fix your system. also: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads. read #0- #103 and you'll know more linux/ubuntu than 75% of users [14:03] jh [14:03] cfhowlett, lotuspsychje thanks a lot. Cheers! [14:03] Sofiaraj: how can we help you? [14:03] muhsin: did you purge the ppa? [14:03] And loads of thanks to you too EriC^^ :) [14:04] no problem :) [14:04] EriC^^: YEah i did [14:04] EriC^^: Now i dont want to be greedy, but is there a safe method to delete these extra grub entries? [14:04] ok, the entries are coming from /etc/grub.d/25_custom which i think boot-repair added [14:05] we can remove that easily, the odd thing though is that 30_os-prober is supposed to add a bootmgfw.efi file for windows, and there's nothing under its entry [14:05] EriC^^: I think i know why [14:05] muhsin: try sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/25_custom , to disable the entry [14:05] then sudo update-grub [14:05] muhsin: why? [14:06] oh, i misread, os-prober actually does have a windows entry [14:06] EriC^^: This pc didnt support booting from Grub. So yesterday people from here, helped me to load grub as default. [14:06] EriC^^: So should i do the above steps? [14:06] !yay bricas [14:06] it's funny i helped someone here to do the same, after he used boot-repair [14:06] his name was anonimouse i think [14:07] !yay | bricas [14:07] bricas: Glad you made it! :-) [14:07] also an hp laptop [14:07] guys today i got update.. and updater timedout. I force quited :S i think it was grub update.... im afraid to restart xD [14:07] muhsin: yeah, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/25_custom [14:07] !recovery | RandomNoob if things go wrong after reboot [14:07] RandomNoob if things go wrong after reboot: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [14:08] EriC^^: Haha. Anyway you do a great job. [14:08] EriC^^: Is that it? [14:08] RandomNoob, If you think GRUB is broken you might want to run boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [14:08] muhsin: no, type sudo update-grub [14:09] ubottu: thank you. updater is making logs? or error logs? i want see it and google :D before restart [14:09] EriC^^: Finished. [14:09] muhsin: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us [14:10] to see what the config file looks like now [14:10] we had to move it out yesterday for some reason [14:10] EriC^^: http://sprunge.us/CRRK [14:10] RandomNoob: dpkg log perhaps? [14:10] muhsin: ok, they're gone [14:10] muhsin: try restarting [14:10] muhsin: 1 sec [14:11] Eric^^: Ok [14:11] muhsin: type ls -lR /boot/efi | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us [14:11] muhsin: the efi files might be switched to boot grub, so the actual windows efi file is ubuntu [14:12] EriC^^: http://sprunge.us/ERCC [14:12] EriC^^: So is it over? [14:13] muhsin: no [14:14] the efi file is actually ubuntu [14:14] so you *are* anonimouse? [14:15] No. My friend is. Apparently he has been ssh ing to my computer. I thought he screwed it up. [14:15] EriC^^: No. My friend is. Apparently he has been ssh ing to my computer. I thought he screwed it up. So i reinstalled ubuntu today. [14:16] muhsin: ok, we tried to switch the file os-prober looks for yesterday so it adds the windows file ( now called bootmgfw.efi.backup ) [14:17] EriC^^: So now? [14:17] anyways it kept adding 2 entries for some reason, and we ended up disabling os-prober and adding a custom windows entry in /boot/grub/custom.cfg [14:17] muhsin: if you add another os, os-prober won't pick it up though, fyi [14:17] Having trouble using /etc/environment to set my environment variables. So instead want to use .profile. Is this correct notation for adding ANDROID_HOME and some subdirectories? [14:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13931028/ [14:18] EriC^^: That's fine, but what if i delete windows? I want windows to go out from the grub entry. [14:18] if you delete windows you can just remove it from /boot/grub/custom.cfg and update-grub [14:19] Ok. So now restart EriC^^? [14:19] muhsin: no, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober [14:19] if you want to do it [14:20] i will brb [14:21] hold on [14:21] EriC^^: I did it. What should i do next? [14:22] I don't understand how to add environment variables. Nothing is working for me, tried /etc/environment, tried .profile :( [14:25] EriC^^: It is fine. I will wait. [14:26] C_minus_: .profile is only sourced for login shells [14:27] just what are you trying to set anyway? === abbba is now known as zabac [14:29] C_minus_: this is very basic stuff, and not related to Ubuntu support. Please read something like http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_02.html which will explain the synatx and common pitfalls, such as _not_ putting spaces around the '=' sign. === w9qbj is now known as not_w3ccv [14:29] hi everybody, I'm completely new about everithing here. I just wanted to ask for support because I'm having some problems with my laptop on which I installed Ubuntu 15.10 [14:30] am I in the right place? [14:30] rastadani: ask your question mate [14:30] rastadani: don't ask to ask just ask [14:31] ok.. so my laptop does not reboot after suspend. It seems to restart but the screen doesn't lit and stays black. My only way out is to restart the pc using the power button [14:32] When using aircrack i keep getting these errors ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS) failed: Name not unique on network [14:32] muhsin: im back [14:32] I checked my hostname [14:32] i've been looking for a solution on the forum but i can't solve the problem. If you need more informations about my pc plese ask me. Thanks in advance. [14:32] And its unique on the network [14:32] AniByte, aircrack is not ubuntu and not supported here. pretty sure they have their own channel. === zabac is now known as kalas [14:33] EriC^^: Ok [14:34] DId you go again EriC^^? [14:35] hello, i have networking Problem, my laptop was working as suposed until now, when i'm connected with ethernet cable, i can ping any IP adresse but dns resolution doesn't work [14:36] muhsin: gksu gedit /boot/grub/custom.cfg [14:38] muhsin: paste this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13931551/ [14:38] then save and sudo update-grub [14:39] marus: are you allowing network manager to handle your connections? [14:39] DId that EriC^^? === anonymous is now known as Guest40066 [14:39] hi [14:39] muhsin: try cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us [14:40] EriC^^: http://sprunge.us/YOSM [14:40] daftykins: do you mearn in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ? [14:40] marus: no, the GUI utility [14:41] muhsin: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober [14:41] daftykins: i don't use gui .. [14:41] EriC^^: Did that. Next? [14:41] sudo update-grub [14:42] daftykins: when i connect to wireless same dhcp dns server i get dns sserver with nmcli dev list iface wlan0 | grep DNS [14:42] but not with wired connection [14:42] EriC^^: But it didnt show windows boot entry [14:43] it should source it when grub starts [14:43] EriC^^: Should i reboot? [14:44] muhsin: did you run the chmod command, then update-grub? [14:44] Yes EriC^^ [14:45] muhsin: ok type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us [14:45] EriC^^: http://sprunge.us/PKIU [14:45] marus: you mean 'nmcli dev list' doesn't show nameservers being allocated from DHCP to the wired interface, or something is allocated but it isn't working for local resolving? [14:46] muhsin: ok, try restarting === rawagner_away is now known as rawagner [14:46] muhsin: try windows [14:46] Great. I will report the outcome. EriC^^ [14:47] TJ-: yes nmcli doesn't show the name server at all with eth0, but it does with wlan0 [14:47] EriC^^: "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" can be added to /etc/default/grub, rather than altering the eXecutable bit [14:48] TJ-: right [14:48] marus: Then, either the NM connection is configured NOT to use nameservers provided, or the DHCP server isn't providing [14:48] TJ-: the menuentry title can also be added right? [14:48] to disable just windows? [14:48] marus: check what /var/log/syslog messages there are when NM uses dhclient to get the lease, that should help figure it out [14:49] TJ-: i havn'T change anything in my NM, and that's the same dhcp server with wireless [14:49] EriC^^: yes, there's a BLACKLIST [14:49] what's the syntax like? [14:49] GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER="Windows on /dev/sd...." ? [14:50] EriC^^: Cheers . It worked. [14:50] EriC^^: no, that is either "true" or "false" ... to disable a specific entry its "GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST=..." and the UUID of the target file-system [14:50] Thanks so much EriC^^. You are truly great. [14:51] TJ-: it can also take titles though right? cause the uuid is the efi partition [14:51] muhsin: hold on, TJ- has pointed out that you can disable os-prober another way [14:51] EriC^^: "grep -C 2 GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST /etc/grub.d/*" will give you an idea of how that is used in the script [14:51] and you can just disable windows using that method, so if you add another os os-prober will still pick it up [14:51] EriC^^: I think if this works this is enough for me. [14:52] TJ-: you're right, DNS: plugin dnsmasq update failed [14:52] muhsin: do you want to do it? [14:52] marus: ahhh, read further, those are expected whilst dnsmasq starts and arrives on the DBus. [14:52] marus: look at what dhclient reports it has received from the DHCP server first [14:53] EriC^^: No eric, this works. I am happy with that. Thanks for your time [14:53] muhsin: ok :) [14:53] muhsin: no problem :) [14:57] I'm on 14.04.03. My screen tears when scrolling in firefox. I don't have this tearing issue anywhere else. Can anyone help me resolve this? [14:58] Why can't I get environment variable set up right??? I tried /etc/environment, no dice. Tried .profile, no good either. And so Android development environment won't work, can't run the phone emulator. :( [14:58] This is my path: http://pastebin.com/yeKfqGiP [14:58] asad_: graphics card chipset and driver version please? [14:59] C_minus: what program are you trying to execute? [15:00] good morning guys === mike_ is now known as Guest47780 [15:00] lotuspsychje, how do I check my driver version? [15:00] asad_: sudo lshw -C video [15:01] TJ apparantly the yardstick for knowing Android SDK is properly installed is that you type in "android" and it runs an executable held at /usr/share/android-sdk/android-sdk-linux/tools, with ./android [15:01] lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13932112/ [15:02] TJ and so when I'm trying to build android apps in my IDE, it can't load up the phone emulator. [15:03] C_minus: no, with "./android" you're telling the shell to run the file from the CURRENT directory (the . ) [15:03] asad_: did you try 15.10? [15:03] C_minus: find out where the system 'sees' that exectuable with "which android" [15:03] I'm getting the errors described here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26783594/phonegap-cordova-build-android-node-modules-q-q-js-throw-e [15:03] C_minus: 'which' searches the PATH for the named executable [15:03] lotuspsychje, yes... same problem. [15:03] asad_: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/625978/graphics-and-font-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-with-intel-broadwell-u-integrated-grap [15:04] TJ which android returns nothing [15:04] asad_: Have you changed Firefox's Tools>Options>Advanced>Untick Smooth Scroll ? [15:04] lotuspsychje, yeah that's not the problem I'm experiencing [15:04] C_minus: right, so 'android' isn't on the PATH. [15:05] TJ So I went to .profile, opened it up with gedit and added these lines... [15:05] C_minus: `cd /usr/share/android-sdk/android-sdk-linux/tools; ./android` [15:06] TJ in fact, here's my whole .profile, I added the bits at the end. [15:06] TJ http://pastebin.com/vD9taTjQ [15:06] Hi all, I have a problem, someone is available to help me ? [15:07] !ask | Stins0n [15:07] Stins0n: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:07] C_minus: looks like your export PATH=.... is missing a couple of ":" [15:07] Sorry :) ty okay [15:07] C_minus: between the three last ones [15:07] I’m trying to install ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10 on my Macintosh (Dual Boot) but each time, at the end, the install is not working (during the slideshow) I tried to do « apt-get remove ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu » but not working to .. nothing happened [15:08] C_minus: between, tools, build-tools and sources [15:08] C_minus: I have it in a slightly different location, but with just 2 additional paths on PATH I get "which android" => "/usr/local/lib/android-sdk-linux_86/tools/android" [15:08] TJ-, yes I have. Seems to happen in either case... [15:09] C_minus: I only add the platform-tools and tools directories: "PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/lib/android-sdk-linux_86/platform-tools:/usr/local/lib/android-sdk-linux_86/tools" [15:09] asad_: OK, so not the obvious solution then. [15:09] Tsutsukakushi and TJ thanks I added in the colons. Is my syntax OK for the rest of it though? [15:09] TJ-, it's happening on the left side of the page === erwin_ is now known as easyOnMe [15:10] should be [15:10] Is export PATH=$PATH:... appending stuff to the existing path? Is that why you say $PATH on the right hand side of the assignment operator? [15:10] yes [15:11] Do I need to log off and in again to see if it works? I should be able to type "android" from any directory? [15:11] asad_: does this help at all? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_Graphics#SNA_issues [15:11] yes, it's interpret when you log in [15:11] TJ-, I don't have any tearing problems anywhere else. Not even in video playback. Just when scrolling in firefox. [15:12] C_minus: You can also issue the export PATH= command to have it take effect for this session, so you can test it before you change the file [15:12] asad_: which version of Firefox is it? [15:12] asad_: tested other browsers? [15:12] TJ-, 42 [15:13] lotuspsychje, not in 14.04 but I tested with chrome in 15.10. no problems when scrolling in chrome. but there's a lot of tearing in video playback in chrome. [15:13] asad_: it sounds like a double-buffering issue - as in not using one [15:14] asad_: could tryout chromium-browser [15:14] TJ-, I've been having tearing problems in general and I've been hopping distros and ubuntu has been the one with the least amount of these problems. but I just have this probelm in firefox... [15:14] asad_: is this happening with Firefox full-screen, or Windowed, or both? [15:14] asad_: or start firefox from terminal, to see errors [15:15] TJ-, you mean when it's completely full screen? [15:16] How can a convert a ext4 32 bit drive to a 48bit or a 64bit drive without formating? [15:16] asad_: do you have the VAAPI extension packages installed? [15:16] asad_: yes, when Firefox is completely full-screen (which means the compositor should be out the way) [15:17] TJ-, I haven't tried it in complete full screen mode. Let me see. [15:21] TJ-, yeah happens in full screen too [15:21] asad_: generally tearing is due to having a compositor involved, which is unable to do cheap GPU memory copies due to framebuffer restrictions, so has to use the CPU which isn't sync-ed with the display refresh/update, so the 'tear' is you seeing part of frame 1 and part of frame 2, etc., as the CPU tries to update the framebuffer whilst the GPU is scanning it out to the display [15:22] asad_: Are you using Compiz/Unity? might be worth testing in '2D' mode [15:22] Krigsforbryter, what is a 32-, 64-bit drive? I did not know hard drives or partitions could be classified in that way. You mean like CPUs? [15:23] TJ-, I don't get why I'm having all these problems. I bought this laptop this year. And my laptop is even listed on ubuntu's certified hardware list... [15:23] No, filesystem, ext4 32bits dont support drives over 16TB, i need to grow to 20TB now [15:23] Krigsforbryter, you can't convert. you must reformat. [15:24] Fuck :( [15:24] asad_: this year's hardware, using the OS from 2013/14? Have you installed the 14.04 Hardware Enablement stack? [15:24] i just in stalled a chinese ubuntu, all the chinese file's name on my ntfs disk chinese display ok, but when i connect to a chinese ftp server, the file name display error with(invalid encoding), when i change the locale to GBK, the ftp file name is ok, but the title of file manager is error, how can i do? [15:25] Krigsforbryter: this is what LVM is for. But why extend, why not just create an additional mountpoint for the extra space? Unless everything needs to be in a single directory that will work [15:25] TJ-, what's the hardware enablement stack? I'm not sure if I do have it installed... I've been having tearing issues. And I just clean installed ubuntu 14.04.03 a few hours ago [15:26] asad_, cat /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf [15:26] !ltse | asad_ [15:26] asad_: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [15:27] anyone know how to change the file manager encode to GBK? [15:27] just the file manager [15:27] ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13932748/ [15:27] TJ-: its to have system in all my shit [15:27] asad_, nvidia driver ? [15:27] ioria, intel [15:28] Krigsforbryter, family friendly channel here : no profanity [15:28] Krigsforbryter: can you moderate your language please, it is unnecessary to swear. We try to maintain a calm family-friendly environment [15:28] so if i install from 14.04.3 media, i'll get the enablement stack automatically? [15:29] asad_, already using a xorg.conf file ? [15:33] TJ-, Since I'm on 14.04.03, I must already have the enablement stack, correct? [15:33] asad_, uname -r [15:34] ioria, 3.19.0-39-generic [15:34] asad_, yep, the vivid stack [15:35] asad_, do you have a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 ? [15:35] ioria, nope [15:36] In Apache, is there some way to implement a http->https redirect that cURL will follow automatically (so not a 301) [15:36] asad_, you can try with this ans see how is going http://paste.ubuntu.com/13932842/ [15:37] how can i determine why an ubuntu 12.04 server spontaneously rebooted? [15:37] ioria, i've tried that. it slows down performance. and I'm not really having any tearing issues anywhere else except for scrolling in firefox [15:37] asad_, ok [15:37] LzrdKing: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can troubleshoot that? [15:37] logs look normal one moment, and then starting up the next [15:38] is it possible I can get an ubuntu iso specfically for my laptop? [15:40] asad_, http://www.zupmage.eu/i/bV8yTk2LIZ.png disable smooth scrolling [15:40] over here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201408-15443/ it says it comes preinstalled by manufacturer, how can I get it? I bought this laptop with windows 8 preinstalled [15:40] asad so you already bought it? [15:41] hi [15:41] cfhowlett, yeah I'm using it right now [15:41] asad_, take it to the store and see if they'll replace it with the one you should have selected. (probably not). or install ubuntu yourself. [15:42] cfhowlett, i have installed ubuntu myself but a lot things don't work [15:43] asad_, then your options are limited. [15:43] Hi, How can I create a shortcut for a script *.sh ? [15:43] OK in ubuntu, in order to prevent cold boot attacks(Getting the encryption key from ram after shutdown) i want to run sdmem right before shutdown to make sure RAM is ereased. [15:43] How should i go about this? [15:43] asad_: you've got the 3.19 kernel; also check you have the -vivid- X stack: "dpkg -l '*vivid*' " [15:44] hi [15:44] hello [15:45] !ask | samir [15:45] samir: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:45] TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13933181/ [15:45] I am using firefox which redirects automatically to www.domain-error.com [15:46] asad_: Good, that looks fine [15:47] TJ-, you were talking about VAAPI earlier? Do I need to have that installed? I'm not sure if I do [15:48] TJ-, I'm not sure if I have it installed, that is [15:48] How can I create a shortcut for a script *.sh ? [15:49] asad_, have you tried disabling smooth scrolling in FF ? [15:49] asad_: VA-API is like nvidia's VD-PAU, GPU-acceleration for some video-presentation functions. It might help but it isn't a certainty. It's hard to know when we can't gather any evidence of the actualy issue [15:49] TJ-, but I'm not using nvidia drivers... I have an intel card [15:50] asad_: No, I was giving a comparison. VD-PAU on Nvidia is the same technology as VA-API for Intel [15:50] asad_: (in case you'd heard of VDPAU because it has a higher awareness) [15:50] TJ-, oh I see [16:01] TJ-, I'm noticing something in firefox... The tearing in pages when scrolling seems to start after watching videos on youtube. I restarted firefox and I don't seem to notice any tearing, yet [16:02] HOLA [16:02] asad_: that is an intriguing discovery :) [16:03] Tengo Problemas con mate 15.10 [16:03] !es | SAG12 [16:03] SAG12: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [16:03] ubuntu-es [16:04] hi [16:04] hola [16:04] hi [16:04] trying to install wine1.7 on ubuntu 15.10 .. [16:04] and it doesn't work [16:05] The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-amd64 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [16:05] i get this [16:05] Lo instale pero no lo he probado todavia [16:05] anyone has any idea? [16:05] mich`: is the i386 foreign architecture enabled? [16:05] TJ-: I have no idea, should i enable it? [16:06] TJ-, yeah it's really weird though. What could be the problem? [16:06] mich`: try "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" you'd expect to see "i386" [16:06] asad_: not sure, but it's a good quality clue! [16:06] TJ-: yes, that's what i see [16:07] TJ-: is that ok? [16:08] mich`: OK, that's good. Now, wine1.7 isn't in the 15.10 archive, so you must be installing it from someplace else [16:08] yes, i added the ppa [16:08] mich`, ppa support is from the ppa not from ubuntu. [16:08] !ppa | mich` [16:08] mich`: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [16:09] ok, i understand that - but i'm looking for some generic usage help with apt-get [16:09] it says something but i don't really understand what [16:10] mich`, the source of your problem is the ppa. suggest you purge and use the .wine in the repos. [16:12] cfhowlett: ok thanks [16:12] mich`: OK, so there's a PPA issue. Try adding this option to your apt-get command-line "-o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1" [16:12] hi there [16:13] is there deny rule in the end of ufw? [16:13] is there a special parameter to symlink a file into a .hidden folder? $ln -s file .hiddenfolder/ [16:13] n215: maybe the #netfilter guys can help? [16:15] NaN: here's a thread I found that should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469257 [16:15] SlidingHorn: great, I'll read it thanks [16:16] asad_: definitely try out the VAAPI support packages; they might do something with the videos to prevent the later tearing during scroll. [16:18] hi [16:18] hi zealott === arun_ is now known as Guest6587 [16:28] TJ-, Okay I'll check it out [16:33] GOOD MORNING! [16:33] hope everyone is having a good day [16:35] 123 [16:43] trying to reproduce this video I get the error: [16:43] http://www.ufc.tv/video/ufc-194-embedded-vlog-series---episode-4 [16:43] To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 10.2 or greater is installed. === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_afk [16:44] p4trix: flash is pretty dead for firefox, try chromium-browser instead [16:44] its the same with chromium [16:44] I get the same error :O === me is now known as Guest55282 [16:45] p4trix: i can watch it here, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ? [16:46] p4trix: works on mine. do you have flashplugin-installer? [16:47] lotuspsychje, I did not :O [16:47] p4trix: try installing it [16:47] SchrodingersScat, I think I have that one. [16:47] I ll try. === cpaelzer_afk is now known as cpaelzer === Guest6587 is now known as arunpyasi [16:58] hello i have a question please i install linux on a flash drive 32gig but i can not save data how do i ? [17:00] newlinuxuser: You want a persistent drive. [17:00] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/?PageSpeed=noscript [17:00] You're welcome. [17:02] such a fast server! [17:04] thank you debug0x1 :) [17:06] hi guys, do i need the source to package a program or i can package from a binary of an older release? [17:07] hay207: what are you actually trying to do? [17:08] i want to package a program for my release [17:08] !package [17:08] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Muon, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! [17:08] hm [17:08] what's the program? testinstall? [17:09] but the program isn't available for my release, btnx [17:09] debug0x1: i think newlinuxuser installed ubuntu on the flash drive already and he has some other problem in savimg files [17:09] !checkinstall [17:09] checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! [17:09] hay207: ^ [17:18] :) [17:19] Hello. Is Xubuntu 15.10 a development release? It tells me that when I try to upgrade. [17:19] habbasi: no [17:19] habbasi not it's not === marshal0605 is now known as marshal0505 [17:20] Thank god. I thought Ubuntu was breaking the 6-month upgrade cycle or something. Cheers! === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_afk [17:22] hi [17:23] just a question the full encryption disk option in the ubuntu installer uses dm-crypt + luks ? [17:23] taxo: Yes [17:23] jpds: thats nice [17:24] does debian jessie allows you to do that too ? [17:24] I mean in the installation [17:24] taxo ask the debian guys, it's a differnet distro [17:24] MonkeyDust: ok [17:26] I want to send mail from the shell between local users, I assumed "mail user" would do it. IT seems to take the message but even when I mail myself nothing arrives. What do I need to configure? [17:27] I forget. Is there a default MTA running on ubuntu? Maybe postfix? [17:28] desktop? no [17:28] my brand new out of the box 1.4 has postfix running - ut it is 14.4 server [17:28] you can of course install one if you wish [17:29] running, but have you set postfix up ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto [17:29] sjjenni: then you may have logging messges describing what happened to your email. [17:29] 1.4? [17:29] I'm pretty sure if no MTA is specified, it defaults to sendmail [17:30] cledde, nothing in the /var/log/mail.log [17:33] cledde, I was rong, there is an error, it says host not found,. [17:36] hii ppl [17:36] i need help with my ubunto 9.10 installing a wifi driver can anyone help me??? [17:37] maxinone, nope, version is EOL, dead, upgrade please [17:37] look i should upgrade for last version of ubunto ? [17:38] i would suggest 14.04 lts or the latest 15.10 [17:38] !lts [17:38] LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) [17:38] then a need a dvd-r, a choose this one because only took a cd that i had... [17:38] Or usb stick. [17:39] k thnks i will upgrade... [17:39] if you have cd's only, take a look at the mini iso [17:39] !mini [17:39] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [17:39] you will need wired internet to use it. [17:40] can i use mini-version, then install wifi driver that i had, and upgrade packs later ?? [17:41] maxinone, no, not possible AFAIK [17:41] then you would go the server route, i guess. [17:41] fits on a cd too. [17:41] Hello [17:42] Anyone from india who can help with languages [17:42] ux2: ask your question mate [17:42] How do you install Hindi language pack [17:44] my language is pt-pt why cd command does'nt open the folder "Área de Trabalho" meaning Desktop ???? [17:45] maxinone: i think it means area of work yes [17:45] ux2, this page may be a help http://www.prayogshala.com/hindi-reading-writing-on-ubuntu-linux & the guys in #ubuntu-in can help you too. [17:45] how i can acess long names in diffrent languages than en [17:45] maxinon cd ~/Desktop - also, there is a pt support channel if you'd like: !pt [17:45] i can't just enter a folder... [17:45] thanks [17:46] OerHeks: that channel is read [17:46] Dead [17:46] maxinone: Begin typing the name of the folder if you can type those characters on your current keyboard, then hit Tab to see if it can autocomplete [17:46] hmm it is just 23:16 in calcutta [17:46] humm ok [17:46] !in | ux2 [17:46] ux2: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India [17:47] ux2, set it up like that url i gave, reboot, and run updates to be sure all is set. [17:47] thks ppl i'll be back, just try entering that folder changing from win to ubuntu [17:48] OerHeks: are you indian ? [17:48] ux2, no, Dutch member [17:48] Ah === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [18:08] what is the differennce between terminal, xterm and uxterm ? I feel like xterm is more powerful than terminal! also copy/paste is not working in xterm [18:10] !terminal | question [18:10] question: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [18:10] question ux means unix, is what i know [18:11] question: they're all different terminal emulators...xterm is the default that comes with X - it doesn't have copy/paste capability (from right click, at least) - you *can* paste using Ctrl+V, I believe. [18:11] web search showing that uxterm is xterm with unicode suupport [18:11] SlidingHorn: not working [18:12] question what brings you here? [18:12] MonkeyDust: to know about all three and to ask as to what should be preferably used [18:12] question: there's a decent rundown of other terminal emulators available here: http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/ I tend to use xfce4-terminal on my xubuntu machine & lilyterm elsewhere. I was probably incorrect on the pasting thing re: xterm, then [18:13] question try a few, use the one you like most [18:13] question: there are PLENTY of other emulators out there, but those are just a few with some helpful information about htem [18:13] MonkeyDust: I prefer the most user friendly and the most powerful one [18:14] question: those tend to be mutually exclusive concepts a lot of the time, lol [18:14] SlidingHorn: thing is that I'll have to install others for what I have already got installed on my system [18:14] if there arre ways to add functionality and make terminal and xterm more powerful than its better than best [18:15] question: Well your *buntu set up comes with its own default terminal - if you don't like that one, you're welcome to try others. That list I linked to a few posts up would be helpful [18:15] question we can't know what you prefer [18:16] hi all [18:16] MonkeyDust: ok, how to add copy/paste functionality to xterm ? [18:16] question i don't know, i don't use it [18:16] or enable them if its disabled by default [18:16] MonkeyDust: what do you use ? terminal ? or something else ? === arun_ is now known as Guest91806 [18:17] question yes, i guess it's terminal, the default suits me [18:17] question: I suggest reading the xterm FAQ if you've got your mind set on only using it and don't care to try others. http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html [18:17] i use ubuntu 14.04 and and qt application(such as vlc,smplyer,okular, and other) run in my system slowly [18:17] any one know about it [18:18] i test it in the other account and i do not see this problem [18:19] and when i run these app in terminal i get this error :Qt at-spi: error getting the accessibility dbus address: [18:19] please help me [18:19] mahdi_ja: what "other account" -- Are you saying that if you're logged in as one user, things are slow, but when logged in as another user on the same machine, they're not? [18:19] !enter | mahdi_ja [18:19] also print screen button not working - 15.10 wily [18:19] SlidingHorn, yes [18:20] when i run these app in terminal with other account this problem not exist [18:20] SlidingHorn, when i run these app in terminal with other account this problem not exist [18:20] mahdi_ja: please try to keep your responses to one line === Guest91806 is now known as arunpyasi [18:22] question: you paste in xterm by click left and right mouse button together, or if you have a three button mouse, the middle one [18:22] clicking [18:23] akik: lemme try, plus how to copy inside xterm ? [18:23] question: you just paint the area you want to copy [18:23] akik: lemme try [18:23] question: xterm predates all the new terminal emulators [18:24] question: please read the manual I linked earlier...your questions are answered there [18:24] SlidingHorn: yeah, opened it, reading it thnx [18:24] akik: its working, thnx [18:25] akik: one more question - which is more powerful - xterm or terminal ? [18:25] question: it's just a matter of opinion which you want to use, xterm is bare [18:25] bare ? [18:26] it's not as feature rich as the newer ones [18:26] not saying it's not useful [18:27] Does anybody have time to chat and help me fix multiple partitions on a laptop I received? I know nothing about partitions but know my way around computers Its not theres something wrong, I just see 4 different partitions. IDK which one has MAC OS and which one is supporting Ubuntu. I honestly don't know where to begin researching. [18:28] akik: ok I understand, but for eg. I transfered 1gb file from home to usb and sync'ed in terminal and xterm, xterm looked like far speedy [18:28] !mac | SexyBamf [18:28] SexyBamf: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages === boquete_asus is now known as boquete [18:32] I wish a simple forum could help me out but all the research in the world won't help me, === not_w3ccv is now known as W9QBJ === ^CJ^ is now known as ^cj^ [18:35] SexyBamf: you can use a command like "sudo lsblk" to list your storage devices and partitions [18:35] SexyBamf: You are presently booting up a LiveDVD(USB) of 'buntu ?? Then I can get you started in understanding the partitiioning ( from a linux viewpoint ) , [18:37] Computer only starts in ubuntu. no grub menu, no bootable options. I spent the last 15 hours literally putting in code for apt-get as well as boot-repair. [18:39] SexyBamf: K; you are attempting to boot up ubuntu on the hard drive, do you boot to the desktop ? [18:39] i had to hack into admin cause i was only able to get into guest account. now that i'm in it. i installed over 219 updates. Last time this laptop was used, was back in 2014 [18:39] hello [18:40] salut les gas s que il y a ;oen de ;e renseni2 pour hacker un conpt facebook [18:40] It boots right to ubuntu dekstop. I've explored the system and found the 4 partitions. I can tell that they're wonky [18:41] !fr | anonymous_ [18:41] anonymous_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [18:41] anonymous_: no hacking on this network either [18:42] SexyBamf: Ouch, a Year is a long time in the computer world . So is what is installed worth the time to mess with it ? What release is this that is installed ? Terminal command ' lsb_release -a ' . [18:43] first volume is unkown 32kb, second volume is bootstrap and 1.0 mb, third volume is 155gb marked apple UFS partition. fourth volume is 4.6 gb swap space. oh and another volume of 25kb of unused partition [18:44] SexyBamf: What release of ubuntu is this ? As maybe End_Of_life, and there is then no support - no software repository availabale . [18:45] sorry got knocked off [18:47] Hi, I just ran apt-get upgrade and then rebooted by ubuntu server. Now I get "Uncompatible license" "Invalid arch-independent ELF Magic" [18:47] Unable to boot, running 14.2 [18:47] Any ideas? [18:47] 14.2 isn't a release [18:47] No LSB modules are available. [18:47] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [18:47] Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS [18:47] Release: 12.04 [18:47] Codename: precise [18:49] daftykins: 14.04 LTS sorry [18:49] Here is a print screen http://i.imgur.com/xL0sWz5.png [18:50] Sexybamf: Not to paste multi-lines into the channel, we have a utility for that. [18:50] !paste | Sexybamf [18:50] Sexybamf: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:50] guest9930: is this a VM? [18:50] It is yes [18:50] which VM technology? [18:51] vmware, if that is what you are asking [18:51] indeed. i take it a power off and on results in the same? i'd say it's time to dig around from a live session [18:53] I tried to shut it down entirely, it is the same. === tvoss|lunch is now known as tvoss [18:56] Sexybamf: You have a supported release of ubuntu, I am unclear of the problem you are experiencing - just that you can not activate the GUI in your "username" ? [18:56] any indian language packs ? [18:56] Tried to install n failed [18:57] Hey guys, i have a question, is this room enable "cloak" feature ? [18:57] alilinux: To discuss 'cloaking' join #freenode channel . [18:57] !cloak | alilinux [18:57] alilinux: To get any kind of cloak (Ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page. For unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode. [18:57] alilinux, no, #Freenode does [18:58] Anyone from india ? [18:58] my main question is how do i go about getting MAC as the OS and not ubuntu. It doesn't seem like mac is even installed or hidden on the system. I want OSX as the main OS [18:58] Sexybamf: this isn't an OS X support channel. [18:59] Set yous osx in grub2 as default [18:59] !grub [18:59] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [18:59] !mac | Sexybamf Then see: [18:59] Sexybamf Then see:: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [18:59] no but i am interested in keeping ubuntu. thats why i came here... I don't want to make a mistake that i'll regret [19:00] daftykins: you have no idea what is causing this? [19:00] Sexybamf: Sorry, I know nothing of the Mac hardware . [19:00] guest9930: like i said, time to dig around from a live session [19:00] or restore your backup [19:01] -join #ubuntu-in [19:01] TJ-: can you help me with my ubuntu freezes? [19:02] Hellooooo [19:02] grrfrf: ask your question to the channel please [19:02] I have Ubuntu freezes [19:02] !details | grrfrf [19:02] grrfrf: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) [19:04] after few minutes after boot system run slower and slower and finally freezes [19:05] grrfrf: ubuntu version..? when did things go wrong? [19:05] daftykins: you do not happen to know how to "dig around" from a live session? You mean I boot from a live cd? [19:05] 15.04, but this starts in 14.04 [19:05] guest9930: yeah mount a desktop ISO then chroot the installation [19:05] guest9930: i guess there's always a recovery mode boot worth trying first, too [19:05] it happens when my apps read/write from disk [19:05] !recovery [19:05] If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [19:05] I tried the recovery [19:06] same error [19:06] grrfrf: what harddisk do you have? [19:06] HGST HTS721010A9E630 (JB0OA3J0) [19:06] grrfrf: check your syslog for IO errors [19:07] nothing in logs [19:07] grrfrf: can you pastebin your syslog please [19:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13938496/ [19:08] grrfrf: did you auto partition in setup, or manually partition? [19:08] auto [19:10] https://i.imgur.com/UnmXuIr.png [19:10] can someone help me with kvm? I have a 64 bit 14.04.3 install but kvm keeps making 32 bit vms. --arch is set for amd64. Any thoughts on what to look at? [19:10] lotuspsychje, gparted [19:12] grrfrf: graphics card chipset and driver loaded please? [19:12] hey folks! I would like to test the Unbuntu Cloud (MAAS, Juju, Landscape etc) on a couple of lased bare-metal servers. note that these servers don't offer a vlan, so all I have is external IPv4 IPs. can I work this out, or do I need to have everything in the same place? [19:12] Having an odd issue. The only user that can login via SSH is root. All other users, it logs them in, shows the welcome banner, then immediately disconnects. Almost like someone put a logout command in their profile or something. [19:13] lotuspsychje, intel (intel driver) and radeon (radeon driver) [19:13] In auth.log I see "Permission Denied" [19:13] m82labs: that does not sound like a normal ubuntu host since root doesn't have a pass as normal; what is it? [19:13] but radeon videocard only wroks with fglrx which doesn't installed [19:13] I'm reading about MAAS right now, and from my understanding it needs to be all in the same network, as MAAS is basically setting up LAN IPs via DHCP? [19:13] grrfrf: wich chipset exactly please [19:14] dlb, the only reason i can think of: your cpu does not support VT-x / AMD-v , or this is not enabled in the bios [19:14] grrfrf: sudo lshw -C video [19:14] daftykins, it is a normal ubuntu host, but root has been given a password. [19:14] Razva: #ubuntu-server may well be far more relevant for you [19:14] how i can join linuxmint irc ? [19:14] m82labs: sounds like either sshd config or something like fail2ban is booting the other users then via rules [19:14] daftykins thanks! [19:14] !mint | alilinux [19:14] alilinux: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [19:14] Ok everything looks good still getting sasl errors [19:14] m82labs: As daftykins says, you must have enabled root login. Possibly you also made the default folder somewhere with only root permissions and then all others cannot use that for their home and get kicked [19:14] egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo [19:15] daftykins, would fail2ban kick in *after* the "Welcome to Ubuntu..." [19:15] m82labs: pass, but i'm telling you things to check... [19:16] how i can join spotchat using xchat client ? [19:16] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev ff) [19:16] alilinux: ask in #xchat perhaps :) [19:16] lol [19:16] grrfrf: have you tried official amd drivers from their website? [19:16] genii, I checked that out by simply trying `su - myuser` and it was able to login and I could list the contents of the users home directory. [19:17] daftykins, I understand, just wasn't sure when fail2ban kicked in. :) [19:17] lotuspsychje, yes, but with fglrx vsync doesn't working, so I can work [19:17] daftykins: I managed to get into a live ubuntu cd, what kind of digging would you advice me to do? [19:17] first, chroot what ? [19:17] lotuspsychje, system with fglrx also freezes [19:18] * lotuspsychje, yes, but with fglrx vsync doesn't working, so I can't work [19:18] what's port of irc.spotchat.org [19:18] grrfrf: did you build pc yourself? [19:18] no, notebook with replaced hard drive [19:18] alilinux: 6667 is the standard irc port [19:18] grrfrf: ssd? [19:18] hhd [19:19] model name: HGST HTS721010A9E630 [19:19] any pointers getting past sasl auth errors in KVirc on 14.04? [19:19] grrfrf: did it start to freeze after inserting your hd? [19:19] OldDenverGeek: #freenode issue - not OS related. [19:19] I just noticed that neither gnome-disks nor gparted allow you to set the block size of a partition. Upon checking I can see that its set to 512bytes by default. Is there a way to change the block size while creating a partition from a gui in Linux? [19:19] m82labs: this is a wild guess, but do you have a /etc/nologin file? [19:19] okily :) later [19:20] after replace? [19:20] guest9930: have a read of; http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ [19:20] grrfrf: yes? when did your system start to freeze? [19:21] akik, nope [19:21] before I replaced my hdd I used windows. Freezes start after a month while using Ubuntu [19:22] grrfrf: wich laptop brand is this? [19:22] Sony VAIO [19:22] m82labs: if you create a completely new user with useradd, does that new login work? [19:23] grrfrf: does the freeze come after several time? at wich point, same every day? [19:23] nope [19:23] akik, nope [19:23] after several time, after few minutes working with Chrome [19:23] if I use nothing system doen's freeze [19:23] grrfrf: only with chrome? [19:24] grrfrf: or with other programs too? [19:24] m82labs: i think the solution will be found from /var/log/auth.log [19:24] hello [19:24] no, with other serious apps too [19:24] Hello [19:25] grrfrf: are you on btrfs? [19:25] ext4 [19:25] akik, all I am getting there is 'Permission denied' [19:25] akik, but I am not sure what permission is denied to. [19:25] is it bad if i do my do-release-upgrade from a regular in-session command shell? meaning - without logging off and doing it from tty1 [19:25] grrfrf: install htop please and start chromium-browser from terminal to see errors please [19:25] akik, if I do a 'su - myuser; it works just fine. [19:25] m82labs: can you pastebin it? remember to sanitize === truexfan81_ is now known as truexfan81 === andrea is now known as Guest60971 [19:26] theren't errors [19:26] quite [19:27] m82labs: you have another error in sshd, since you allow root logins :) [19:27] All is OK [19:27] grrfrf: not all ok, your system freezes [19:27] regedit-work: it will probably work as well as any upgrade. I prefer fresh installs. [19:27] akik, thats apparently how we do it here. :) Though, that may just be in our dev environment. [19:27] akik, there isn't really anything to pastebin. 'login[3087]: Permission denied [19:27] ' [19:27] I know, but in logs thern't errors, this is the problem [19:28] m82labs: ssh username@localhost fails too? [19:28] grrfrf: not correct, alot of acpi errors in your syslog [19:28] Loshki: so you fresh install every upgrade? and then reinstall all your software etc?... [19:28] grrfrf: have you checked sony website for bios firmware updates? [19:28] akik, good call, I will give that a try. [19:29] akik, yep, same thing "Permission denied" [19:29] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F (\PMIO) (20150619/utaddress-254) [19:29] these errors? [19:29] grrfrf: yeppers [19:30] howdy [19:30] My xbox 360 controller doesn't work with Borderlands 2. Any suggestions? [19:30] grrfrf: try the amd drivers from website also [19:30] m82labs: do you have a AllowUsers in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? [19:30] !find xbox [19:30] Found: fluxbox, hexbox, libhexbox1.5-cil, monodoc-hexbox-manual, xboxdrv [19:30] akik, I tried it, no dice. [19:31] amd drivers for videocard? I alerdy tried they, problem doesn't soles [19:31] what means these errors [19:31] grrfrf: you can also install lubuntu-desktop and see if your system freezes there [19:31] I followed that guide daftykins, I got the root partition under /mnt/root but when I run sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/myroot/dev I get an error that /mnt/myroot/dev does not exist. Opening the finder I can see the files, cd do it I only see some grub files [19:31] and memtest [19:31] m82labs: how about using "ssh -v -v -v username@host" to see if that points out the error? [19:31] regedit-work: I do, but I kind of cheat. I keep a directory of config files (mostly from /etc, about 43 files) which represent my server config. Once installed, I can reconfigure my machine in about 15-20 minutes. Most of the time, the config files are identical and I just copy them into place. [19:32] grrfrf: you could try bootoptions like no_acpi and such [19:32] m82labs: that will output a lot of debug [19:32] grrfrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [19:33] unity dash instantly closes after opening it with either superkey or mouse [19:33] OK, now I try to reboot with this [19:33] weird [19:33] guest9930: i prefer to put my / on /mnt/ then all the sub stuff goes to e.g. /mnt/dev etc ; i see you used two names for the same path so maybe one was wrong [19:34] Ok here's my xboxdrv output. http://pastebin.com/Tp4XVGTn [19:34] I know I have it plugged in. [19:34] akik, it doesn't seem to be ssh related, the login process is what is claiming "Permission denied" is there anyway to increase logging on that? [19:34] daftykins: that was a typo by me [19:34] It's an aftermarket rock candy controller. === arun_ is now known as Guest34574 [19:35] I tried sudo chroot /mnt/myroot and recieved chroot failed to run command '/bin/bash' [19:35] CountryfiedLinux: not run with sudo, likely can't do anything like that. [19:35] m82labs: i don't know but check that the permissions are 0755 on /bin/login === truexfan81_ is now known as truexfan81 [19:36] well great... doing do-release-upgrade from command line froze the system some 60-80% through the process... the last output to console was "Installing for x86_64-efi platform." i can't even switch to tty :( [19:36] CountryfiedLinux: your info says 0.8.5, go to the guys' site and it says 0.8.8 is out which adds support for your pad ;) [19:37] daftykins: How do I install that? [19:37] OK, I rebooted, log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13939678/ [19:37] CountryfiedLinux: no idea. i bet you can find something though. === grrfrf_ is now known as grrfrf [19:38] m82labs: you can also run "sudo login" to see if that outputs any errors. it will give you a login prompt to your host [19:38] daftykins: Ok, thanks anyways. I'll keep looking. [19:39] akik, yep, looks correct. The odd things is that I have 5 vms all built from the same base template, but only one of them allows users to login. I think I am done for the day, time to pass it off to sysops I suppose. Thanks for the help. === truexfan81_ is now known as truexfan81 [19:39] guest9930: that tells you there is no /mnt/myroot/bin/bash ... so probably the root FS is mounted someplace else [19:39] grrfrf: try sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and login to it, see if your system freezes there also [19:40] I alersy tried Unity, KDE, LXDE, now I on XFCE [19:40] TJ-: if I use "Finder" I can go to /mnt/myroot/bin/bash [19:40] and it do exist there [19:40] grrfrf: freeze everywhere? [19:40] I cannot cd to that location from the terminal though [19:41] yes, but now... mayable freezes stops! [19:41] guest9930: but is it *executable* ... is the mountpoint or parent marked noexec, too [19:41] guest9930: are you trying to chroot into a 64-bit root file-system from a 32-bit host? [19:42] TJ-: nope, the desktop is 64 [19:42] Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but - I'm looking for a way to customize tint2 via a gui, if this is even possible. [19:42] grrfrf: can you type watch -n 1 sensors in terminal, and tell us how hot cpu is? [19:42] 62 - 63 [19:43] ok good [19:43] guest9930: if you cannot "cd /mnt/myroot/bin/" then there is a permissions issue, or the directory doesn't exist [19:43] grrfrf: start chromium-browser and type free -lm in terminal? [19:43] TJ-: well it seems to exists in finder, but not the terminal :& === dagfjghf is now known as nubcake [19:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13939945/ [19:45] grrfrf: doesnt look unusual [19:45] guest9930: what is this "Finder" ? [19:46] guest9930: do not rely on anything GUI; stick with a shell in a terminal [19:46] ok I ran df -h [19:46] and I noticed that my new drive is at a different location [19:46] grrfrf, how may tabs have you open ? [19:46] grrfrf: did you try another hd? [19:46] 4 [19:46] hi guys [19:46] no [19:46] it is located at /media/ubuntu/a-lot-of-numbers [19:46] grrfrf: maybe the hd is bottlenecking your system somehow [19:47] I need some help on howto automount a partition before login. [19:47] grrfrf, total 3861 used 3483 ... you're almost out , just with chrome [19:47] !mount | hogslammer [19:47] hogslammer: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [19:48] guest9930: 'lots of numbers' will be the UUID of the file-system. [19:48] grrfrf: do you have another hd to test? [19:48] hello, i'm trying to access my sd-card via the built-in cardreader in my notebook on ubuntu 15.10 x64 . usually i just plugged it in and it did show up on the menu on the left. now it doesn't show up anymore, all i get is some messages in syslog after plugging in. any help would be highly appreciated :) thanks in advance [19:48] yes, but have data on it [19:48] http://i.imgur.com/AWPW6w6.png [19:49] oh and please excuse my bad english, it's not my mothers tongue [19:49] ok yes i went thru the help files [19:49] guest9930: so the automounter 'udisks' has mounted it. Use "udisksctl unmount --object-path /media/ubuntu/xxxxxxx" to unmount it [19:49] grrfrf: this is clean install or upgrade from version to version? [19:49] the folder is in media, but i need it systemwide [19:49] lotuspsychje 15.04 -> 15.10 [19:50] lotuspsychje but on 15.04 there are freezes === rngesus is now known as blablablah [19:50] grrfrf: and before 15.04? clean install? [19:50] has anyone here used the Universal USB Installer to create a bootable flash drive? I've used it just now, but it turns out i also need to modify some grub2 options to disable the loading of nvidia drivers into the kernel.. in order to be able to install or live/boot into Ubuntu even once. Any thoughts? [19:50] yes [19:51] grrfrf: must be hardware related, all the versions you tested [19:51] grrfrf: try also a cmos clear in bios, ramtest, hd test [19:51] hello, not seeing the Python/Idle menu under Applications in 14.04.. [19:51] grrfrf: doublecheck sony website for bios upgrade [19:52] I tried ramtest tooday, 1 pass OK [19:52] grrfrf: sata cables good? [19:52] using Gnome Metacity, how to add menu items ? [19:52] white_magic: no, you just need to boot with 'nomodeset' if you need to disable nouveau usage [19:52] !nomodeset | white_magic [19:52] white_magic: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [19:52] grrfrf: i had one ubuntu system freeze on a 1TB Westerndigital once [19:52] I have notebook, whitch cable? [19:53] grrfrf: nvm then [19:53] SMART of hd is OK [19:53] grrfrf, sudo lshw -c video [19:53] this is really starting to get on my nerves. I tried to run grup and recieve Python error failed to open /dev/urandom [19:53] daftykins: that is precisely what i'm trying to do. do i modify this file '/boot/grub/grub.cfg'? [19:54] white_magic: no, you just follow the above link and do it once - once installed, you can install proper nvidia drivers. [19:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13940373/ [19:54] no, problem doesn't solved [19:55] grrfrf, intel.... are you hybrid ? ... i mean with radeon [19:55] My xbox 360 controller doesn't work with Borderlands 2. Any suggestions? [19:55] grrfrf: you said amd card also right [19:55] ioria: yes he's hybrid [19:55] Ok here's my xboxdrv output. http://pastebin.com/Tp4XVGTn [19:55] yes, hybrid [19:55] It's a rock candy. [19:55] is it possible to automount a per user partition(media) before logon? [19:55] grrfrf, dpkg -l | grep fgrlx* [19:56] ioria: [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev ff) [19:56] CountryfiedLinux: i already told you your driver is out of date, install 0.8.8 [19:56] lotuspsychje, i see .... [19:56] nothing [19:56] daftykins: I don't know how. [19:56] CountryfiedLinux: so look it up? [19:56] white_magic: if you edit grub.cfg, any changes you make to it will be wiped out when you grub-update, which will regenerate the file from configs. [19:56] ioria: amd drivers make his system freeze also [19:56] grrfrf: do you have a 2nd Linux PC available? [19:56] lotuspsychje, ok [19:57] I have my fstab open at the moment, looks like its listing UUID's [19:57] ioria: and his syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13938496/ [19:57] for what? ssh? [19:57] daftykins: You don't think I've been doing that? [19:57] grrfrf: Yes, so you can do a live monitor on the /var/log/kern.log as the faulty PC begins to fail [19:57] CountryfiedLinux: not since i already found PPAs in my first search, no [19:58] radeon 0000:01:00.0: radeon: MSI limited to 32-bit ... [19:58] Well here's what I looked for daftykins https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+rock+candy+xbox+360+controller&biw=1366&bih=613&noj=1&ei=_ShrVtmpF8qojgTp6o-gDQ&start=30&sa=N [19:58] !automount [19:58] Automount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs [19:58] system currently is very slow, so I can now see logs [19:58] using Gnome Metacity, how to add menu items ? [19:58] daftykins: looks like a google search to me. Don't be a douchebag. Got that ppa by chance? [19:59] the definition is a bit off. automount is not only for network mounts [19:59] grrfrf: run 'top' see if any process is hogging the CPU [19:59] grrfrf, but it's a virtual box ? [19:59] CountryfiedLinux: please loose the tone to volunteers [19:59] no, only xfce4-terminal and google-chrome [19:59] cpu ~5% [19:59] lotharn: Did you read the tone of the volunteer? [19:59] grrfrf: this is a virtual machine? or bare-metal? [19:59] any ideas on why my sd-card wont show up after plugging in? http://pastebin.com/yHDtpKT9 this is the output of syslog [19:59] CountryfiedLinux: right but i told you you need to install the latest version of xboxdrv, your search is too vague to find anything relevant... and no, not since you think throwing insults around is ok :) [19:59] I'm a volunteer also. [19:59] bare-metal [20:00] daftykins: That's one of many different searches. Most recent was for "ubuntu rock candy driver 0.8.8" [20:00] grrfrf: so right now it's responses are slowing, but you still have direct, local, control? [20:01] daftykins: I was asking for help and looking myself for the past hour. You were automatically being rude assuming I wasn't looking for myself, but I digress. [20:01] CountryfiedLinux, please dont target a single user for help, repeat yoiur question every 20 mins or so [20:01] grrfrf: what about reported load averages? [20:01] CountessBathory: using that exact search, I found it in the top 5results.... [20:02] CountryfiedLinux: * ^^ [20:02] SlidingHorn: +1 [20:02] yes, but cusor is jumping on the screen and I can't fast switch apps [20:02] bazhang: Well 17 minutes in between, close enough :P [20:02] grrfrf, have you already tested the Guest Account ? [20:02] grrfrf: can you get a remote SSH session to the problem PC? [20:02] SlidingHorn: Do you have the link still? [20:02] yes [20:02] CountryfiedLinux, just make it general, not at the one single helper [20:03] ok bazhang [20:03] how do I send it to you? [20:03] grrfrf: right, work off a remote SSH session, and gather some info before it hangs up. First, check the load average "cat /proc/loadavg" [20:04] 0.86 1.00 1.11 1/544 7509 [20:04] grrfrf: grrfrf so quite high - could be an I/O wait issue there. [20:05] grrfrf: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and watch it, is anything being reported or is it mainly quiet [20:05] TJ- currently system works fine [20:05] what means the last line: perf interrupt took too long (2541 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000? [20:05] grrfrf: OK, well keep those tools available remotely and use them when the system starts misbehaving [20:06] grrfrf: system load means the performance monitoring needed adjusting [20:07] CountryfiedLinux: The second result under "ubuntu rock candy driver 0.8.8 ppa" is http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ <~~ has instructions on how to add the PPA, etc. [20:07] nothing in tail [20:07] Ok thanks SlidingHorn I'll try that. [20:07] google ftw. [20:08] using Gnome Metacity, how to add Programming menu and items? [20:08] grrfrf: next time the problem starts recheck the loadavg first, then tail the kern.log to check. If you can find a clue it'll be extremely useful [20:08] grrfrf: For refefence my AMD box : " sysop@1404mini:~$ cat /proc/loadavg >> 0.00 0.02 0.05 2/268 2490 ' With a bit going on (google-chrome, irssi and some other low level stuff ) . [20:09] OldDenverGeek: as I recall, adding any application whose .desktop file declares it to be in the Programming category will cause the group to appear [20:09] TJ-: that makes sense, but didnt python and idle show up after install?? [20:10] grrfrf: a high load average could indicate high iowait conditions. you should also check the IRQ stats "cat /proc/interrupts" for extremely rapidly changing values [20:10] 1.31 1.02 1.06 1/567 7775 [20:10] SlidingHorn: I tried that and tried to reinstall xboxdrv and it said it is already the newest version. Did the xboxdrv anyway and says the same as before. [20:10] OldDenverGeek: In theory all the DEs that abide by the FreeDesktop standard should use those, but as always sometimes the implementations can leave something to be desired. Sometimes it needs a log-off/log-on to refresh the menu cache [20:11] grrfrf: getting high! [20:11] TJ-: ok let me try that.. bbl [20:11] why when chrome reads data from disk I can't move cursor? [20:12] grrfrf: iowaits ... indicates thats where the problem might be [20:12] grrfrf: sounds like a hardware/system firmware issue if we can rely on that observation, especially as earlier you mentioned it affects all DEs you've tested [20:13] TJ-: can he test hd speed/read/writes with hdparm perhaps [20:13] CountryfiedLinux: after adding the PPA - sudo apt-get remove xboxdrv && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install xboxdrv [20:13] grrfrf: it's possible that system would do better with the -lowlatency kernel, instead of the -generic [20:14] lotuspsychje: it's not the speed as such, it's interrupt handling that can cause this kind of issue. [20:14] TJ-: how intsalll it? [20:14] lotuspsychje: unless we have a known-good value to compare to, checking it now might not be too useful. [20:14] grrfrf: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-lowlatency" [20:15] grrfrf: then you'll need to ensure the -lowlatency kernel is used by the default GRUB entry before doing a reboot test. You should also remove that "noacpi" if it is still there [20:15] SlidingHorn: still not found :( [20:15] and what is the difference? [20:15] CountryfiedLinux: then you haven't added the PPA per the instructions. [20:15] grrfrf: -lowlatency uses pre-emptive multi-tasking rather than co-operative multi-tasking [20:16] grrfrf: generally its better for desktop installations [20:16] SlidingHorn: controller not found. [20:17] CountryfiedLinux: what is the output of apt-cache policy xboxdrv (in a pastebin, please) [20:18] grrfrf, can you paste ps -A ? [20:18] SlidingHorn: installed [20:19] SlidingHorn: http://pastebin.com/r3igiLe8 [20:19] Why is KeePassX 2 not be in Ubuntu 16.04? [20:20] LangieX: ask the maintainer [20:21] LangieX: it is, btw [20:21] so i dont know what your issue is with this development release :/ [20:21] CountryfiedLinux: SlidingHorn 0.8.5-0ubunt3 is the latest version in that PPA for Trusty, and the main Ubuntu archive version is later [20:22] TJ-: I was just checking that, too.... cc: CountryfiedLinux [20:23] My system freeeze ehen I tried to install these packages. Can you repeat your messages if therir exist? [20:23] SlidingHorn: Could upgrading from Trusty to Wily maybe solve the issue? [20:23] grrfrf: you mean the install instructions? I've not typed much since then [20:24] CountryfiedLinux: you need the most recent mainline release for Trusty? [20:24] CountryfiedLinux: If you're okay with upgrading to a non LTS version, then it *does* appear that the 0.8.8 is available for Wiley [20:24] TJ-: He needs at least 0.8.6 for Rock Candy support [20:24] Ok cook thanks SlidingHorn [20:25] upgrading lts to non-lts is not reccomended [20:25] k1l_: It is? [20:25] TJ-: SlidingHorn But is it possible to install the latest on LTS? [20:25] LangieX: 16.04 is in heavy development. you are aware of this? [20:25] LangieX: and what is the issue with keepass2 you say it should not be included? [20:26] k1l_: I am speaking about keepassx.org [20:26] k1l_: The new 2.0 version is new and it would be great to find it in ubuntu [20:27] CountryfiedLinux: I'm checking now [20:27] !info keepass2 | LangieX [20:27] LangieX: keepass2 (source: keepass2): Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.29+dfsg-1 (wily), package size 1252 kB, installed size 2963 kB [20:27] CountryfiedLinux: which kernel version is the PC running? "uname -r" [20:27] ok thanks TJ- [20:27] TJ-: 3.19 [20:27] k1l_: No, not KeePass2, KeePassX2 [20:28] LangieX: talk to the maintainer of keepassx then [20:28] OK, I booted with lowlatency kernel [20:28] hey! [20:28] i am eliKAAS [20:28] k1l_: Is there a chance that it will be in ubuntu 16.04 or is it fix which packages are in ubuntu 16.04? [20:28] i am now on ubuntu [20:28] and wifi on school works! [20:29] thank you all! [20:29] LangieX: talk to the maintainer. he knows what could be blocking it [20:29] LangieX: here is the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [20:30] LangieX: keepassx2 was rleeased 4 days ago. [20:31] k1l_: Yeah, that's why I wanted to know if it's in Ubuntu 16.04 [20:31] Hi folks, I'd like some help blocking websites with the hosts file on ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu 14.04.3. I will paste my hosts file. I can still access reddit on chromium despite trying to block myself from using it. [20:31] 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain computer 127.0.0.1 reddit.com [20:31] CountryfiedLinux: give me a few minutes; I'll set 0.8.6 to build for 14.04 and see how it foes [20:32] !info keepassx2 xenial [20:32] Package keepassx2 does not exist in xenial [20:32] !info keepassx xenial [20:32] keepassx (source: keepassx): Cross Platform Password Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 743 kB, installed size 3044 kB [20:32] ok thanks TJ- [20:32] That's version 0.4.3 :( [20:33] that is why i said: talk to the maintainers. [20:33] we cant know what is going on with this just released software and if its not compatible with other stuff in ubuntu [20:34] My host file changes don't seem to be blocking websites appropriately. Is this an https issue? [20:36] Hi. I am using rsync remote to local and rsync is stuck. The size of the backup directory is not increasing. Should i cancel the operation? [20:37] samsamsam: can you check the data size growing locally? [20:37] @lotuspsychje the local directory size is not increasing... [20:38] samsamsam: probably stuck then? [20:38] rsync -av --stats --progress [20:39] @lotuspsychje I just cancelled it. This is the error i got [generator] write error: Broken pipe (32) [20:40] join #meditation [20:41] mhenrixon_: what for? [20:43] TJ-: SlidingHorn brb [20:45] samsamsam, apt-cache policy rsync [20:47] samsamsam, could be a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsync/+bug/1300367 [20:47] Launchpad bug 1300367 in rsync "rsync 3.1.0 and 3.0.9 incompatibility" [Medium,In progress] [20:48] @ioria could be. I am running it a second time and its working so far [20:48] samsamsam, good ... [20:51] Hey... has anyone noticed that ubuntu doesnt allow the transfer of files embeded in a folder via mtp?? === greave_ is now known as greave [20:54] ux [20:57] howdy [20:58] TJ-, Wily is at xboxdrv 0.8.5 how do I update to .8? [21:01] jsf [21:02] hello [21:02] remont: how can we help you? [21:02] yes [21:02] I'm setting up a desktop for my brother and was wondering is it better to go with 14.04 LTS or 15.10(or .04) for someone new to linux/ubuntu? [21:02] yes [21:02] CountryfiedLinux: I thought you were using Trusty? [21:02] malgorath: in most cases LTS is a good choice [21:03] SlidingHorn, I just installed Wily. [21:03] malgorath: but depends what you need yourself? [21:03] malgorath, I'd recommend 14.04 and then tell him how to upgrade to 16.04 when it's released. [21:03] Okay thanks guys [21:03] malgorath, Just in case he doesn't feel like upgrading he won't be without support soon. [21:05] CountryfiedLinux: If you're now using Wily, the exact steps shown on that page (add repository, update, install) should install 0.8.8. I'd probably remove the older version first just so there's no weirdness [21:05] Just curious, I installed 15.10 on my desktop recently, is that going to be upgradable to 16.04? [21:06] malgorath: yep. [21:06] malgorath: yes - there will be release notes when 16.04 comes out which will help you [21:11] hello everyone... I have plenty of files with url1, but want to replace the occurences of url1 with url2... I have tried multiple combinations including find . -type f -readable -writable -exec sed -i 's#"url1/my_path"#"url2/my_path"#g' {} \; but I can't get it working although no error is displayed.. thanks :) [21:12] SlidingHorn, Ok I just removed xboxdrv, added the ppa, updated, installed ubuntu-xboxdrv, then checked and http://pastebin.com/KnG33vHt === root is now known as Guest69187 [21:15] found it, in case anyone requires it... use comma as a delimiter :) [21:15] SlidingHorn, I pasted everything just to confirm I followed the steps accordingly. [21:15] CountryfiedLinux: that's not the ppa listed on the page I linked... [21:16] SlidingHorn, what's that link again? [21:16] CountryfiedLinux: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ --- scroll down to the "binary package download" section. [21:17] ok thanks SlidingHorn [21:19] SlidingHorn, http://pastebin.com/WqbVxiwq [21:20] CountryfiedLinux: progress! Now let's see what that error means.... [21:22] SlidingHorn, I'm thinking about just going out and buying a used corded xbox 360 controller :P [21:22] Of course I'd bring my laptop and test it first. [21:25] i am using rsync to sync my server with a local dorectory. The server shows only 2.7 gb used but the local directory is > 6gb. What else is getting copied? [21:25] SlidingHorn, The light is on indicating player one. Maybe it will work anyway. [21:26] CountryfiedLinux: well, give it a shot, and if it doesn't, we'll have to figure out a way to have xboxdrv essentially run as a daemon at startup. Sounds like a privileges problem, and a root-initiated daemon would alleviate that [21:27] samsamsam: did you delete stuff from the remote directory and didn't use --delete flag? [21:28] @Tsutsukakushi Yes [21:29] samsamsam: try adding --delete to the rsync line and syncing them, maybe that'll fix it [21:29] :3 [21:29] @Tsutsukakushi Thanks. I will try that [21:29] SlidingHorn, Gotta wait a few minutes for the game to install. In the meantime I'll keep searching that error. [21:30] CountryfiedLinux: FYI: I've uploaded the Trusty 0.8.6 package to my PPA and waiting for it to build [21:31] TJ-, I've added that ppa in Wily and have an indicator light on for player 1. Still getting an error but gonna see if it will work anyway. [21:32] CountryfiedLinux: OK [21:32] TJ-, http://pastebin.com/WqbVxiwq [21:32] CountryfiedLinux: essentially, I think what we'll do is create an upstart entry for it anyway, that way it's always run at startup - sudo nano /etc/init/xboxdrv.conf and put this in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13943484/ [21:33] samsamsam: do you see files being deleted? [21:33] samsamsam: using -P will show you what is happening when it's running [21:34] CountessBathory: (the content of that pastebin...not the link itself, lol [21:34] SlidingHorn, Numbers 12345 included or not? [21:34] @Tsutsukakushi I didn't now about -P will add that and see what is happening [21:34] CountryfiedLinux: no line numbers [21:35] ok [21:35] SlidingHorn, Do I need to reboot? [21:36] CountryfiedLinux: for that file we just made to take effect, yes. [21:37] SlidingHorn, I'm gonna email myself a tutorial of all this info just in case it works I'll have it for later. brb [21:38] CountryfiedLinux: good luck! [21:38] SlidingHorn, Luck is for losers. So I'll need some luck thanks :P [21:41] brb [21:46] Hi. Can I move AND RESIZE (extend) an extended partition without moving it's contents? [21:46] SlidingHorn, Still doesn't give me the controller option in Borderlands 2 :( [21:48] CountryfiedLinux: 0.8.6 for Trusty now built: see https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty [21:49] SlidingHorn, I just had an idea. I'll play the game with jstest-gtk running. [21:49] CountryfiedLinux: 0.8.6 for Trusty now built: see https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty [21:49] cool thanks TJ- [21:49] brb [21:51] SlidingHorn, controller still not working :( jstest-gtk indicates that it does though. [21:53] Wound an official xbox 360 controller work with Steam games? [21:53] CountryfiedLinux, yes [21:54] as long as the game supports controllers [22:02] is there a tool in ubuntu that can do base to base conversion , i need it to check my homework results [22:02] Is Xbox controllers what's recommended for Steam or would Playstation controllers work also. [22:02] base to base ? [22:02] CountryfiedLinux: I've used both, although the xbone controller doesn't work properlly with the xbodrv module for all games [22:03] the 360 is fine with it [22:03] Ok thanks ikonia [22:03] I'm gonna take my laptop to a local game store and test it before buying it. [22:03] ikonia ; yes base 2 which is binary , 10 , 8 (octal) 16 ..... [22:04] Okay, nevermind - that is how GParted behaves when you do move and resize an extended partition (if it does not require moving of logical partitions, of course) [22:04] ANY IDEA ? [22:04] no need for caps, but no, I don't know what you're trying to do [22:06] ikonia : please adress my nick so i know ur taliking to me , I want a tool that can help me convert numbers from base to another base [22:07] i <3 ubuntu [22:08] ikonia ; coco [22:09] what ? [22:09] ikonia ; online tools are not really accurate [22:09] why are you telling me this [22:10] ikonia : because u asked me a question [22:11] coco: "bc" ... e.g. "echo 'ibase=2; 10101010' | bc" => "170" [22:12] TJ- : I aske for a tool my friend ! [22:13] TJ- ; thanks for the lesson though * [22:13] coco: bc is a tool [22:14] coco: The *nix philosophy is to make each tool do one job well, and be able to pipe outputs to inputs to build complex powerful chains [22:15] TJ- ; its not in the software centre [22:15] it's instlled by default === yuno is now known as Guest47549 [22:15] as part of core-utils (I think) === holucon_ is now known as holucon [22:16] irccloud is kinda stupid [22:16] and nothing to do with this channel === TuxTek is now known as nuno_nunes [22:18] TJ- : what is the cmd line to convert 89.0625 to binary ??? [22:18] TJ- ; using bc [22:21] TJ- ; ? [22:22] what is the cmd line to convert 89.0625 to binary using bc ?? [22:23] coco: are you in a test situation or why in a hurry? go read about bc [22:23] coco: 1. please allow some time to pass before repeating a question. If no one is available to answer, wait at least 20 minutes before reposting. 2. Have you read the manpage for bc while waiting? [22:26] coco: You can do something like echo "obase=2;89.0625" | bc ..obase can also be changed suitably for octal, hex, etc [22:29] coco: " echo 'scale=8;obase=2;89.0625' | bc " => "1011001.00010000000000" [22:29] coco: you'll want 'scale=X' when needing numbers to the right of the decimal place [22:30] TJ-: Nice :) [22:31] genii , TJ- : so the input should be ( echo 'scale=8;obase=2;89.0625' | bc ) [22:32] coco: There are single quotes there nested in double quotes [22:36] exit [22:36] exit === kolobyte_ is now known as kolobyte === hugh is now known as Guest30790 === Linlz_ is now known as Linlz [22:39] coco: yes. You can run "bc" and work from its shell until you type "quit", but I use a pipe because I make use of it in shell scripts [22:40] coco: the default ibase and obase (input and output respectively) is base 10 decimal [22:40] TJ- ; when changing the value of X in scale=X , doesnt seem have any affect [22:41] coco: "man bc" and see sections NUMBERS and VARIABLES about 'scale' [22:44] Hi there, im having issues with a new laptop and its built in wifi adapter. The laptop is an Acer Aspire E15 E5-573-5864, running Ubuntu 15.10. The adapter is displayed as 'Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042]'. I've been following a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300861&page=3 which seems to work for other people but no dice here. [22:44] I've uploaded output of wireless-info here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/14360b76a8015088a79e [22:44] Note, I currently have a usb wifi adapter plugged in, which i cannot use in the long run, so please ignore it when viewing the wireless-info output [22:49] if I'm running an update that is meant to update my browser, for instance [22:49] it's OK if I'm running it, right? [22:49] it will still update and such? [22:52] Guest30790: On 15.10 the ath10k_pci does NOT claim the 168c:0042 device [22:53] Thanks TJ, is there something I can do to make it claim? [22:54] Also, it seems ath_pci is blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf. Could that be an issue? [22:55] Guest30790: looking at the mainline Linux kernel source-code repository, it looks as if support for that chipset has only landed about a month ago: "034074f Thu Nov 12 21:03:05 2015 +0200 Bartosz Markowski ath10k: add QCA9377 hw1.0 support" [22:55] Guest30790: No; that's an older module [22:57] Ah, ath10k_pci. I see. Does the ubuntu forum thread I posted not show that people were able to get the device working though> [22:59] I downloaded the ubuntu ISO image. How can I put it on a USB drive? the website docs are confusing. I'm running Debian linux. I can I just dd the file to my USB drive (/dev/sdb or whatever it is)? [23:00] yes [23:00] thanks [23:01] Guest30790: you'll need to use a very recent mainline build of v4.4, I'd suggest http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc4-wily/ [23:01] !mainline | Guest30790 see this for instructions [23:01] Guest30790 see this for instructions: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [23:01] For some reason my wifi drops on my laptop (and not on any other devices) and it won't reconnect. I have to restart Ubuntu to get it to work. === Bugboy1028 is now known as DeafieGamer [23:02] Alright TJ, i'll give that a shot. Thanks [23:02] Guest30790: the forum thread shows they're using a very recent kernel build [23:02] how [23:02] how do I find out what vers of ubuntu Im reunning with term? [23:03] Guest30790: you'll be installing a work-in-progress development kernel, so you must expect issues. It's release-candidate 4 and we usually go to 7 or 8 before its final. I checked on the last stable release update v4.3.2 but it doesn't contain the commits [23:03] antonio_: "cat /etc/issue" [23:03] thanks [23:03] Now, how can I diagnose why my wifi drops..and wont reconnect until I restart? [23:04] antonio_, you have an android tablet or phone? [23:04] antonio_: first place to look is in /var/log/syslog [23:04] laptop [23:04] but no android [23:04] Hi. I was trying to format my USB memory stick the other day on Linux Ubuntu and accidentally deleted the partion, now it will not work on any computer. I have tried to format and create a new partion but it's as if the USB is destroyed :-(. [23:06] Is there a way to view if someone did a guest login on my computer? [23:06] tj-: I've done that...and I have the syslog...can you take a look at it? [23:07] antonio_: sure, why not pastebin the last 2000 lines or so? "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog )" [23:07] Indra: check /var/log/auth.log" [23:08] OK TJ, i understand. Thanks again for your help [23:09] so anyone feel like helping with a sound issue. i was trying to get my audio working. tried removing pulseaudio cause thats how i prefer n did it before (just use alsa). after many guides following online, i have to run puseaudio then run pavuaudiocontrol, i go to configuration drop down to my hdmi, and it still isn't work. Anyone have a good guide to getting the audio to work without pulse? and so i boot my computer it starts each time, let alone work. [23:10] oh i'm running XFCE ubuntu werewolf. [23:10] (i think my issue compared to usually, is that i'm in XFCE, the settings aren't as easy to find) [23:10] ti-: do I need pastebininit installed? [23:11] ndan: Pulseaudio isn't going to stop audio working. If it isn't available at the ALSA level, PA won't be able to produce anything. If ALSA does produce audio but PA doesn't that tells us the output (sink) profile needs changing to select the correct outputs [23:11] antonio_: you may need to do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" [23:12] well good. so ignoring n removing pulse audio from the picture, I'm having a trouble finding a guide setting up alsa... everything keeps point to pavuaudio control (which depends on pulse) [23:12] TJ-: What would I be looking for in the log if someone did in fact do the guest login? [23:12] tj is this the right way? pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog [23:13] ndan: I generally use "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" to identify the sinks and profiles, and "speaker-test" to check the ALSA side === samo is now known as Guest25048 [23:13] helolo [23:13] antonio_: you're missing the closing parenthesis ) [23:13] whats that? [23:13] Indra: 'PAM' will mention a log-in attempt by 'guest' or 'Guest' I'd expect [23:13] TJ-: thanks, i'm gonna toy with that now [23:14] antonio_: "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog) " <--- a closing ) [23:14] hehe [23:14] here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/13946270/ [23:15] There is one time when I turned the wifi off and back on manually with the wifi switch on the laptops keyboard...trying to see if that would cause the wifi to reconnect...other than that...I didn't do anything to turn off the wifi [23:15] TJ-: well aplay -l does see my sound card, speaker-test doesn't work. aplay is listing like every hdmi port as a sound option. I guess what it boils down to, is how do i tell my computer which one to use... i mean card 2 has 4 options hdmi 0-3. i want that card hdmi 1 === The is now known as Guest662 [23:16] ndan: for example: "speaker-test -Dfront -l 2 -c 2 -t wav " [23:17] ndan: where the -D "front" profile came from "aplay -L" listing [23:18] Nevermind.. It was cron. I was getting paranoid. That still doesn't explain how the guest login was selected on the screen when I returned. [23:18] I never use or select that. [23:19] Indra: mouse or cat moved the pointer :) [23:19] Indra: I've had low-battery state in a Bluetooth mouse cause the pointer to go wandering, for example [23:20] Thanks for the help though. It is useful info to know. [23:20] I'm trying to burn a dvd on my laptop, but not having any luck. http://sprunge.us/TYRL [23:21] TJ-: here is my aplay -L , none of the speaker test, even just for fun trying individally replacing the -l with 1-10 no result. i don't think the NVidia HDMI audio is supposed to be there really. [23:21] TJ-: http://pastebin.com/vcXHYGGs [23:22] ndan: "-l" is the loop count. "-c" is the channel count [23:22] ndan: what output do you expect to hear sound from? [23:22] print screen button not working - wily 15.10 [23:23] ndan: that's not the "aplay -L" output, it is the "aplay -l" output [23:23] ndan: capital L is the list you want, to choose the device name for speaker-test, etc. [23:23] TJ-: I know it should be "digital stereo hdmi 2", n yes my apologies you said the -Dfront. [23:23] ndan: it seems you've customised the ALSA configuration drivers, so the default device is the loopback device. That explains why you're not hearing something [23:24] ndan: it looks to me as if you want an output from the built-in motherboard audio on card 1, or the external Nvidia HDMI on card 2 [23:25] TJ-: correct, so dev 8 === hugh is now known as Guest53917 [23:26] Hey TJ, kernel upgrade seems to have partially worked. lspci -vvnn reports that the wifi adapter has ath10k_pci driver in use. But there is still no network device reported in ifconfig. [23:26] Guest53917: well, that's progress :) [23:27] Guest53917: can you "pastebinit <( ip link show )" [23:27] TJ-: my aplay -L is rediculous.... http://pastebin.com/YXwMDxyq [23:27] ndan: it always is :D [23:27] df -h shows i only have 500 mb memory free but difference between size and used is 11 gb [23:28] Hola === cuauhtemoc is now known as Guest18331 [23:28] TJ-: so with speaker test, i'm sorry, i'm not sure what you meant the -D is the device i want, so say i want DEV=8 what would replace -Dfront in this speaker-test -Dfront -l 2 -c 2 -t wav (sorry, i really do appreciate this help) [23:29] samsamsam: Show is the output in a pastebin, please . [23:29] TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/13946631/ [23:29] Note that 'wlx801f025aaeb9' is my usb adapter [23:30] ndan: so you expect audio output from an HDMI device? so something like "speaker-test -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=2 -c 2 -l 2" ? [23:30] @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/EV0qe4ce [23:30] ndan: oh, I missed off "-t wav" there! [23:30] samsamsam: look'n . [23:31] tj-: you get a chance to look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13946270/ ? If not, no worries..heading to work in like 20... [23:32] Guest53917: ahh, OK. I think I know what is affecting you here. I *think* the systemd-udevd device-renaming rules aren't matching on ath devices, I seem to recall fixing this for someone else a few weeks ago. Can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )" please [23:33] hey hey [23:34] just updated my 14.04 machine using LXDE GUI and now I get a reading on my taskbar that says "networking disabled". I checked the cable connections and still have the issue. My TS3 server hosted on it is able to connect to it locally from my desktop though [23:35] TJ-: thank you with that i will go through untill i find which one works. so far my obvious thoughts didn't work, but the tests are working per choice, I def was using aplay n speakertest way wrong when i tried this before. [23:36] on boot it said it failed to setup network connection, rebooting it now to see if it resolves it [23:36] antonio_: it looks like the this is the explanation: "Dec 11 12:55:14 antonio-Inspiron-1545 NetworkManager[795]: (wlan0): device state change: activated -> failed (reason 'SSID not found') [100 120 53]" (line 531) [23:36] "waiting for network configuration" [23:37] @Bashing-om any idea? [23:37] samsamsam: I can not expain why with 11 Gigs not counted there is only 668M availabale for use . as this is the '/' partition. we generally see this as a result of old kernels in /boot . What results ' sudo apt-getautoremove ' to also remove those old kernels . Be aware at 100% capacity, may not have the head room for apt to operate in . [23:37] TJ-: what can I do? Any ideas? [23:37] I am running a DUC for no-ip.com to ressend my IP constantly [23:37] antonio_: so, either something in the network chipset or driver is going wrong, or the Acces Point (AP) is really disappearing. Can you confirm the AP is definitely not disappearing for other devices? [23:37] @Bashing-om I will try that and check [23:37] sudo apt-get autoremove ** [23:38] ok says booting system without full network config [23:38] @Bashing-om I ran autoremove and it didn't do anything :/ [23:38] TJ-: my phone and my gfs tablet work fine...the laptop just drops connections all the time [23:38] antonio_: oh, much better. see line 506! "kernel: [ 194.786377] b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: ..." [23:38] im able to access it locally with Synergy and TS3 but i guess its not getting connection to the internet? [23:38] antonio_: so, you have a definite hardware problem it looks [23:39] TJ-: Any way to work around it? [23:39] samsamsam: Let's check : ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . still bet that there a numerious kernels installed and apt had no head room . [23:39] antonio_: does this happen only when the laptop is working on battery, or also when it is being charged/powered from mains? [23:39] battery is completely dead...happens when its plugged in [23:40] print screen button not working - wily 15.10 [23:40] TJ-:do you think it might be something with the b43 wifi driver? [23:41] how do i fix "network disabled" issue after updating? I changed my iptables to run a DUC for no-ip which is why im assuming i cant get internet access [23:42] TJ-: Just checking in to say that worked. (Im the wifi adapter/kernel guy.) Thanks for your help :) [23:42] Im using the built in adapter now [23:42] @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/h16wBGTs [23:42] question, i had a printscreen problem, but i found out that it worked if i had the program that i wanted to paste to open [23:43] antonio_: see the first post in this thread, and the first indented 'Code' section, where it adds the "options b43 pio-1 ..." [23:43] antonio_: Your system log shows a DMA (Direct Memory Access) failure. that "pio" is the alternative to DMA, called Programmed Input/Output mode. It's slower than DMA but still works [23:44] antonio_: that thread device matches your device (14e4:4315) too [23:44] samsamsam: Kiik'n at your http://pastebin.com/h16wBGTs . [23:44] fep: its a bug in wily [23:44] question, okay... i had this problem in kali, the prt scrn didnt cut to clipboard [23:44] never found out why [23:45] fep: I found its solution some time back but couldn't find it now [23:46] it was something like going to settings and entering the hotkey again [23:47] tj-: what thread? [23:48] antonio_: sorry, I didn't paste the link! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620&highlight=14e4%3A4315 [23:49] question, i get that "blink" when i press prt scrn but it wont store in clipboard until pasted somewhere ... tell me if you figure it out, maybe it will work for me too [23:49] Question, can someone help me resolve an issue with network configuration disabled? [23:50] samsamsam: So much for that theory . But you do have serious problems there . Yours -> linux-headers-3.13.0-24 mine 3.13.0-71-generic . You are way behind on updates. That does not tell us where that space is consumed . Do ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' Let's see what the disk usage is . Then return later to getting you updated . [23:50] fep: what you are doing is copying the screenshot to clipboard so basically its alright, but what my problem is that my printscreen button is totally not working in wily 15.10 [23:51] Ender_Wiggin: ask directly and dont ask to ask !ask [23:51] thanks tj: [23:51] question, oh sorry didnt mean to ping ya [23:52] Ender_Wiggin: no problem, ask your questions directly [23:52] anyone here good with libreoffice calc? I'm trying to figure a way to use regex to split columns [23:52] how do i fix "network disabled" issue after updating? I changed my iptables to run a DUC for no-ip which is why im assuming i cant get internet access [23:52] question, no, i am not copying screenshot to clipboard .. thats the problem [23:53] fep: what key combination are you using ? [23:53] i only use printscreen button or shit+prtscrn [23:53] fep you can try ALT+Stamp [23:53] shift [23:53] @Bashing-om doing that! [23:54] fep: shift+prtsc copies screenshots to clipboard so you are good [23:54] fg_, hehe thanks, it worked ;) [23:54] Yeeeeee [23:54] or maybe it was shift, i tried all three combinations and some of them worked [23:55] fg and question are the masters [23:55] @Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/h2z9Ef7b [23:55] if its incase with prtsc button also then go to settings > keyboard > shortcuts > screenshots and then reassign prtsc button and see whhat happens [23:55] samsamsam: look'n at http://pastebin.com/h2z9Ef7b . [23:55] on the very old keybrd work with ALT [23:55] Hi. Ubuntu does not eject external HDD correctly, unlike on Windows the disk is still spinning. How do I eject it properly when I right click icon and go to Safely Remove? Thanks! [23:58] prtsc takes screenshots of whole window( full desktop) while alt+prtsc takes of current window only (eg. browser) , ctrl+prtsc copies shots to clipboard and shift+prtsc takes for user input area to be selected for screenshot