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AbeI wanted to try this widget but it just gives me an error qtquick version 2.4 is not installed. http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=3342685604:46
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DJ_hi05:08
davidjb_Hi05:09
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krakenskullsis it possible to switch to mysql 5.6 on kubuntu 14.04?07:17
krakenskullsi'm trying to install that package, but it looks like it will really hose my system07:18
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excalibrkrakenskulls, what's the current version in the repo08:38
FloppyBoppyHi09:08
FloppyBoppyIs Kubuntu distro dead?09:08
FloppyBoppyshall we migrate all to openSUSE?09:09
foormeawhy do you say it's dead?09:13
FloppyBoppyfoormea, I 've heard the main developers team left09:14
foormeauhuh09:16
FloppyBoppyThey moved to this distro -> http://www.netrunner.com which is based on Kubuntu09:17
Graf_WesterholtFloppyBoppy, I do not think the main developer team left.09:20
valorieFloppyBoppy: what an odd question09:23
valorieof course not09:24
valoriesome of our leads did step back from positions they formerly held, that's true09:24
valorieand new people have stepped up09:24
valorieof course we would get things out more quickly with more packagers09:24
FloppyBoppywill these changes compromise the stability of next releases?09:25
valorieno09:25
valoriewe only release tested, stable stuff09:25
valorieand these days, we have continuous integration at two levels, up in KDE, and in Ubuntu and Kubuntu itself09:26
valorieso I think we're better quality than we ever have been before09:26
FloppyBoppyIntegrating Plasma 5 into the distro is a big step up09:26
valoriehowever, OpenSuse is great09:26
valorieif you prefer it, try it out09:26
valorieFloppyBoppy: we've had Plasma 5 for about a year09:27
valorieit's not new09:27
regedit-workhello09:27
FloppyBoppythe distro that will be able to reach high desktop stability using Plasma 5 will get more attention09:27
regedit-workafter upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 is it normal to have 3 past kernels; 3.19.0-32-generic, 3.19.0-33-generic, 3.19.0-39-generic aside from the current 4.2.0-19-generic ?09:27
soundscoutGood morning. :) I'd like to know if someone can point me to a way to get around plasma crashing, when configuring ktelepathy with a google account?09:27
valoriewe're up to 5.5 when that comes out, in the next week or so09:28
valorieregedit-work: you can run `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`09:29
FloppyBoppyvalorie, although a good step forward i found it a bit buggy in 15.10 still, I had to get back to LTS09:29
valorieFloppyBoppy: have you filed bug reports?09:29
FloppyBoppyyes09:30
valorieoh good09:30
FloppyBoppyalways do09:30
valorieexcellent09:30
valoriethanks for that contribution09:30
regedit-workvalorie: that doesnt seem to remove those older kernels / grub boot options09:35
valoriereally?09:35
valoriehmmm09:35
valoriealways does for me09:35
valorieI copied that from my own working command09:36
FloppyBoppyregedit-work, autoremove should clean them out09:39
regedit-workso uh, what if it doesnt?...09:40
valorieregedit-work: did it not ask you to restart when it was done?09:41
valorieplease pastebin the readout09:41
valoriecontrol+shift+C09:41
valorie!paste09:41
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:41
FloppyBoppyregedit-work,  otherwise try dpkg -l | grep linux-image09:42
FloppyBoppyand remove the ones that you are not using with dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[NUM]-generic09:42
valorieI think getting the apt tools working is a better way09:43
valorienot that the old kernels are causing any harm by laying about09:43
FloppyBoppyto know your kernel type in terminal "uname -r" Just don't delete that one09:43
regedit-workvalorie: there was a whole lot of output the previous time i ran it, a lot of lines starting with "Del", but i restarted since and dont have that output saved...09:51
regedit-worknno it just says 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded09:51
regedit-work*now it just says...09:51
valorie:(09:52
valorieso how do you know you still have old kernels?09:52
regedit-workvalorie: options in grub boot menu?09:53
valorieah, still there09:53
valorieand why do they bother you?09:54
valorieare you short of space?09:54
regedit-worki am generally disturbed by my problematic troublesome upgrade from 15.04 to 15.1009:56
regedit-workwhich froze midaway, crashed system, and made the machine unbootable09:56
regedit-worki had to make a live USB to recover09:57
regedit-workand slowly run command after command to try and get things back to sanity09:57
regedit-workat this point it seems i might be able to go on using the machine as if things might actually work out ok09:57
valoriethat sounds rather dire09:57
valorieI've gone through a few bad upgrades09:58
regedit-workbut i want to double-check & iron out any weird stuff i find, such as too many boot options / old kernels seemingly hanging around09:58
valorieright09:58
valoriemost important is to keep good backups09:58
valoriebecause a new install is quick and easy09:59
FloppyBoppyregedit-work, did your computer turn off before finishing the update?09:59
regedit-workFloppyBoppy: i think it hung about 80% through10:00
regedit-workduring an update initramfs something kernel 4.2.0 or something maybe10:00
regedit-workafter recovering i ran sudo apt-get -f install which told me to run dpkg --configure -a10:01
lordievaderGood morning.10:01
regedit-workwhich seemed to do a whole lot of things, *maybe* akin to finishing up the upgrade?... i sunno10:01
regedit-work*dunno10:01
FloppyBoppyIf it hung during a distro upgrade, i am afraid the best solution for you will be to do a clean install10:02
valorieregedit-work: you did the right thing10:03
valoriein fact, sometimes I've fixed it by running those both multiple times10:04
valorieuntil everything was clean and tidy10:04
OpenSorceIs anyone using voice commands?10:04
OpenSorceJust looking for a recommendation of what you use.10:05
lordievaderOpenSorce: At times...10:05
OpenSorceWhat are you using for that? Simon?10:05
lordievaderI use a highly modified version of Voximp if I do.10:06
lordievaderMore pocketsphinx than Voximp at this point, but it started out as a Voximp modification.10:06
OpenSorcelordievader, hmm... what I need really only has to listen for one command and launch one thing.10:06
lordievaderPocketsphinx can do that for you.10:07
OpenSorcelordievader, excellent! I'll look into it. Thanks for your help :-)10:07
FloppyBoppy!meta10:08
regedit-workvalorie: ye i re ran those commands multiple times. i *hope* i can go on using this installation of the OS as is, the remaining quirks just irk/worry me...10:08
valorietell us the worrying quirks, and perhaps we can help10:09
QVIKti455Hello ~!~10:10
regedit-workvalorie: 1 grub entry for booting into Windows Boot Manager has turned into 4 very weird looking ones, each with another variation/mix of the words "efi, boot manager, windows," and such. This happened after boot-repair i believe10:12
regedit-workvalorie: and, under Advanced Options for booting ubuntu, there are 3 additional kernels (each with their recovery version) aside for the current one10:16
regedit-workvalorie: i am mostly just worried whether 1) the upgrade was after all is said & done "complete", or are there unresolved half-done problems waiting to reveal themselves 2) are these weird grub boot options indicative of deeper evils10:19
regedit-workalso, are you still there :)10:22
lordievaderregedit-work: IRC is, in contrary to popular belief, an indirect medium ;)10:23
regedit-worklordievader: i must not be understanding what your're meaning with that10:25
lordievaderQuestions like 'are you still there' imply a direct medium, IRC is not.10:26
lordievaderValorie will most likely come back in a bit and answer your question, else she'll, most likely, answer it tommorow.10:27
regedit-workright10:28
regedit-workoh well then10:28
jureIs it possible to force one instance of Dolphin with multiple tabs instead of opening new window every time?10:30
valorieI'm back, but the whole channel is a help channel10:44
valorieI have no special knowledge, regedit-work10:44
valoriejure: in views, you can split the window10:45
valorieas many times as you want10:45
valorieI don't know why they don't call it tabbing10:45
valoriehowever, it approaches 3am here, so ttfn10:45
valorieregedit-work: you could try running `sudo grub-repair`10:46
valorieperhaps it is just grub being stupid10:46
valorieciao10:46
regedit-workvalorie: i believe the command is update-grub, which i have indeed run plenty of times...10:57
OpenSorceGrrr... still no luck with making my wife's laptop listen for a single voice command. Oh well, she'll have to keep clicking an icon to bring up her assistant. si la vie :-P11:32
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CrystalsI've just installed Kubuntu for the first time on my computer, and I'm having a lot of issues.11:36
CrystalsI'm unable to open the menu in the bottom left with a mouseclick11:36
CrystalsSame goes for the maximize button on firefox11:37
lordievaderOpenSorce: Try out voximp, pretty easy implementation of pocketsphinx.12:03
lordievaderOpenSorce: https://code.google.com/p/voximp/downloads/list12:03
OpenSorcelordievader, yeah, it's not picking up her mic for some reason.12:03
lordievaderThat sounds like a config issue.12:04
OpenSorcelordievader, I'll probably figure it out tomorrow.12:04
BluesKajHowdy all12:11
SmurphyMornig12:37
BluesKajMorning Smurphy13:10
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CrystalMareI'm having issues with Kubuntu 15.1014:19
CrystalMareMy window manager seems to be unresponsive to mouse input14:19
CrystalMareThe pointer works, just clicking seems to bug out14:19
CrystalMareIt renders kubuntu unuseable14:20
BluesKajCrystalMare, but your keyboard input works ok?14:26
CrystalMareYes14:26
CrystalMareThe mouse seems to work at times14:26
CrystalMareBut whenever I switch window it does not register clicks14:26
CrystalMareWhen I used the keyboard to open firefox, I was able to click inside firefox14:26
CrystalMareBut the maximize button was not responding14:26
BluesKajhm, cabled or wirless mouse ?14:26
CrystalMareWired14:26
CrystalMareMadcatz RAT 514:26
CrystalMareThe scrollwheel does seem to work at times14:27
CrystalMarehttps://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/477717-Mouse-control-issues-with-KDE-Plasma14:28
CrystalMareThat describes my issues pretty accurately14:28
BluesKajCrystalMare, I have to ask, are your packages up to date14:28
CrystalMareFresh Install14:28
CrystalMareI checked the box "update" during the installation process14:28
BluesKajCrystalMare, which graphics chip?14:32
CrystalMareNvidia GTX570, although I haven't installed drivers yet14:32
BluesKajCrystalMare, open a terminal and do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, then we can check the graphics driver recommended for your gpu14:34
CrystalMareBlues, let me switch to Kubuntu14:34
CrystalMareI'm dualbooting atm14:34
BluesKajok14:34
CrystalMareI'll login with KiwiIRC14:34
CrystalMarebrb, apreciate the help14:34
CrystalMare2BluesKaj: I've started it14:41
CrystalMare2What did you want me to run again ?14:41
CrystalMare2Just update packages ?14:42
BluesKajCrystalMare2, open a terminal and do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade14:42
CrystalMare2Its downloading about 138MB right now14:42
CrystalMare2Also, it took 3 minutes to load the desktop environment14:43
CrystalMare2I'm running this OS from an SSD14:43
BluesKajthen to upgrade any kernel modules after the upgrades are finished run, sudo apt dist-upgrade14:44
CrystalMare2Alright, I'll keep you posted.14:45
CrystalMare2Yeah, the entire desktop is unresponsive right now O.o14:45
CrystalMare2I have to use Alt-Tab to switch14:45
CrystalMare2But clicking inside the app works14:45
BluesKajyou probly need to reboot14:47
BluesKajCrystalMare2, do you have a linux swap? and a swap entry in /etc/fstab, if so remove it and add swapon /dev/sdXX to /etc/rc.local just above the exit line.14:55
CrystalMare3BluesKaj: I'm still having issues14:56
CrystalMare3I've just restarted14:57
BluesKajCrystalMare2, do you have a linux swap? and a swap entry in /etc/fstab, if so remove it and add swapon /dev/sdXX to /etc/rc.local just above the exit line, sdXX being the swap partition14:57
CrystalMare3I dont swap14:57
BluesKajok14:57
CrystalMare3I've got 16GB ram14:57
CrystalMare3I figured I dont need it14:57
BluesKajI was addressing a possible delay by systemd searching for the swap14:58
BluesKajboot delay14:58
CrystalMare3Ah14:58
CrystalMare3The desktop environment loaded faster this time14:58
CrystalMare3(after entering the password)14:58
BluesKaj16Gb Ram is lots , no swap needed IMO14:58
CrystalMare3That's why ;)14:58
CrystalMare3Could having dualmonitor have anything to do with this ?14:59
CrystalMare3:o this is odd14:59
BluesKajok  system settings>driver manager14:59
CrystalMare3If I point my mouse over the clock in the bottom-left, it does do the hover14:59
CrystalMare3I dont know how to reach that, my mouse doesnt work :315:00
CrystalMare3nvm, got it15:00
BluesKajdual monitor setups are not my strong suit15:00
CrystalMare3Its asking about my graphics driver15:00
CrystalMare3binary, legacy binary or Xorg15:01
BluesKajdoes it recommend one?15:01
CrystalMare3nvidia binary yes15:01
BluesKajright choose that one15:01
BluesKajit's on the nouveau atm which is the default for all new installs with nvidia gpus15:02
CrystalMare3ah15:02
CrystalMare3its installing packages now15:02
BluesKajok , think you'll see a different response with your mouse and kwin/window manager15:04
CrystalMare3Its at 33%15:04
* CrystalMare3 has bad internet15:04
BluesKajnp, it takes a while to DL and Install the driver15:04
BluesKajdrom the repository15:05
BluesKajfrom15:05
CrystalMare3Yeah, I figured15:05
CrystalMare3Its been 3 years since I last used linux for a desktop environment15:05
BluesKajhope it's just a driver problem15:05
CrystalMare3I've been running Ubuntu on my servers for a long time now15:05
* BluesKaj nods15:06
CrystalMare3Lets hope this works :D15:06
CrystalMare3I assume this requires a restart ?15:06
CrystalMare3Or would restarting the X server be enough ?15:07
BluesKajyes, if you notifications enabled in your system tray it should pop up, but otherwise once the installer is finished,, reboot15:07
CrystalMare3Okay, I'm rebooting15:08
CrystalMare2BluesKaj: it still does not work15:12
CrystalMare2Like for example: I can press the application-launcher in the bottom left15:13
CrystalMare2But I can not click any of its entries15:13
CrystalMare2But using the scroll-wheel to cycle through the categories does work15:14
CrystalMare2As if the X server does not recognise the window switching15:14
CrystalMare2On another forum someone was talking about the mouse having re-mapped some of the buttons in the X config15:15
CrystalMare2But my experience with X is next to none15:15
BluesKajCrystalMare2, system settings>display configuration>compositor try different renedring backend settings in the drop down15:15
CrystalMare2Is that under advanced settings ?15:17
BluesKajCrystalMare2,  you could try sudo nvidia-xconfig in the terminal15:17
CrystalMare2Warning: unable to locate X configuration File15:18
CrystalMare2it created a new file15:18
CrystalMare2How do I restart Xorg15:18
BluesKajCrystalMare2, let me correct; system settings>display & monitor>compositor try different renedring backend settings in the drop down15:19
CrystalMare2Open GL 2.1, 3 or Xrender15:19
BluesKajOpenGL 3.1 should work as a renderer for your gpu15:20
CrystalMare2Alright, do I have to restart the X server now ?15:20
BluesKajyou can try a logout and login15:21
CrystalMare3BluesKaj: that seems to have done it!15:23
CrystalMare3The menu now actually responds and has proper hovers15:23
CrystalMare3And I can actually interact with the maximize buttons15:23
BluesKajok , what about mouse clicks?15:23
CrystalMare3All good now15:23
CrystalMare3I can click on the menu15:23
BluesKajcool15:23
CrystalMare3And do things with this15:23
CrystalMare3Awesome!15:24
CrystalMare3You made my day!15:24
CrystalMare3What does the composer actually do then ?15:24
BluesKajhappy to help CrystalMare315:24
BluesKaj!compositor15:25
BluesKaj!info compositor15:25
ubottuPackage compositor does not exist in wily15:25
BluesKajCrystalMare3, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KWin15:26
CrystalMare3So its the implementation of the window system >?15:27
CrystalMare3Much like winforms on windows ?15:27
BluesKajnot sure , my windows experience has been rather limited over the last 10 yrs15:29
CrystalMare3Going to see if my Xonar D1 can work alongside my Motherboard soundcard15:38
CrystalMare3So I can use both15:38
BluesKaj!kwin15:38
BluesKaj!info kwin15:38
ubottukwin (source: kwin): Transitional dummy for kwin-x11. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:5.4.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 5 kB, installed size 22 kB15:38
BluesKajnot much info there15:39
BluesKajCrystalMare3, I had my m-audio 1832 working alongside the inte hda for 3 yrs til I got fed up with pulseaudio which the m-s=audio card driver needed to function on website/flash/audio15:42
CrystalMare3Seems though that spotify does not work15:42
BluesKajoops m-audio 19215:42
CrystalMare3It doesn't launch :315:42
CrystalMare3spotify: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory15:43
CrystalMare3Got it15:45
CrystalMare3Installed some missing things15:45
CrystalMare3BluesKaj:  how can i configure an application to use another audio output ?15:47
BluesKajin system settings > multimedia choose your pci card as the default or "Card 0", then your onboard audio chip as "Card1"  for starters15:50
BluesKajCrystalMare,^15:50
BluesKajCrystalMare, then to find the audio drivers, cat /proc/asound/modules , we'll need to list these in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf15:56
NoCodeIs there an easy fix to get JACK and Flash/ Firefox working with Kubuntu 15.10? I just want to listen to, and watch videos while JACK and Ardour are turned on.16:08
BluesKajNoCode, try #jack chat, they might have more experience with ypir kind of audio setup16:10
BluesKajyour16:11
NoCodeThanks, am there now. :)16:11
BluesKajyeah saw that16:11
BluesKajI'm kind of curious about jack, found it confusing16:12
lordievaderJack is low latency, other than that it is a PITA, if you ask me.16:13
BluesKajjack was around before pulseaudio iirc, and with PA onboard it really mucks up the mix for jack16:15
RandomNoobHello guys. Is there chance to change size of the top bar of window? it is too large16:23
RandomNoobthat line where is minimize maximize close16:23
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mrmagooanyone know what would cause missing icons across multiple applications? ie control center and dolphin and the menu17:21
mrmagooI just did a fresh install and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop17:21
mrmagoo15.1017:21
mrmagooshould I be asking here or in #kde?17:22
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ToastHi, has there been any significant improvement in colour management between 15:04 and 15.10?19:47
Voyage_how can I make my desktop a bit less glare?19:48
Voyage_how can I make my desktop a bit less glare? my laptop only has an option to dim the display, not change hue/saturation or contrast19:48
scottn_workVoyage_: Not exactly what you want but may help - have a look at redshift - http://jonls.dk/redshift/ - dims your screen according to time of day20:01
Voyage_thanks20:01
RandomNoobguys im installing themes but in menu i cant see them ?20:04
jubo2Uhh..20:10
jubo2something wrong with locks20:10
jubo2E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)20:10
jubo2I needed to remove some lockfile (not this one) because I looked at a conf file diff and didn't figure how to get out of it and killed the apt process20:11
jubo2Yeah..20:12
jubo2sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock lock-old20:12
jubo2could this cause the new lock probelm?20:12
jubo2what to do? pls help, is kubuntu20:13
jaafarHi folks20:14
jaafarstruggling to send files from my phone to my kubuntu system20:14
jaafarvia bluetooth20:14
jaafarboth sides think they are paired20:14
jaafarbut attempts to send simply fail on the phone side20:14
jaafarany thoughts?20:14
jaafarphone says simply "connection unsuccessful"20:15
jaafarnothing appears in dmesg output20:16
jubo2jaafar: have you tried using KDE Connect instead20:16
jubo2it uses wlan to connect machines and phones20:16
jaafarWell, bluetooth is designed for this purpose and I think it should work, after all :)20:17
jaafarIf I get desperate enough I will consider alternatives20:17
jaafarbut... it's such a simple and common usage20:18
jaafarit would be strange for it not to work20:18
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RandomNoobim installing themes and they are not shown in theme menu :(20:24
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regedithello20:38
regeditmy system date/time is wrong and keeps being wrong upon reboots20:38
regeditsudo ntpdate -u ntp.ubuntu.com produces ntpdate[4522]: no server suitable for synchronization found20:39
regeditBIOS time is set to the correct EST time20:39
regedit /etc/default/rcS says UTC=no, meaning linux is currently NOT assuming that the machine time is in UTC20:40
regeditsudo hwclock --hctosys does temporarily solve the issue for the current session, but problem resumes upon next reboot20:41
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clivejo_whats KDE like on debian?21:18
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mparilloMy feeling was that for the average user, KDE on debian is pretty painful. For me, Kubuntu, then Mint, the Manjaro seem to be the KDE distros that work best. You will find some Open SUSE fans out there, but I am not one of them.23:23

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