[04:46] <Abe> I wanted to try this widget but it just gives me an error qtquick version 2.4 is not installed. http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=33426856
[05:08] <DJ_> hi
[05:09] <davidjb_> Hi
[07:17] <krakenskulls> is it possible to switch to mysql 5.6 on kubuntu 14.04?
[07:18] <krakenskulls> i'm trying to install that package, but it looks like it will really hose my system
[08:38] <excalibr> krakenskulls, what's the current version in the repo
[09:08] <FloppyBoppy> Hi
[09:08] <FloppyBoppy> Is Kubuntu distro dead?
[09:09] <FloppyBoppy> shall we migrate all to openSUSE?
[09:13] <foormea> why do you say it's dead?
[09:14] <FloppyBoppy> foormea, I 've heard the main developers team left
[09:16] <foormea> uhuh
[09:17] <FloppyBoppy> They moved to this distro -> http://www.netrunner.com which is based on Kubuntu
[09:20] <Graf_Westerholt> FloppyBoppy, I do not think the main developer team left.
[09:23] <valorie> FloppyBoppy: what an odd question
[09:24] <valorie> of course not
[09:24] <valorie> some of our leads did step back from positions they formerly held, that's true
[09:24] <valorie> and new people have stepped up
[09:24] <valorie> of course we would get things out more quickly with more packagers
[09:25] <FloppyBoppy> will these changes compromise the stability of next releases?
[09:25] <valorie> no
[09:25] <valorie> we only release tested, stable stuff
[09:26] <valorie> and these days, we have continuous integration at two levels, up in KDE, and in Ubuntu and Kubuntu itself
[09:26] <valorie> so I think we're better quality than we ever have been before
[09:26] <FloppyBoppy> Integrating Plasma 5 into the distro is a big step up
[09:26] <valorie> however, OpenSuse is great
[09:26] <valorie> if you prefer it, try it out
[09:27] <valorie> FloppyBoppy: we've had Plasma 5 for about a year
[09:27] <valorie> it's not new
[09:27] <regedit-work> hello
[09:27] <FloppyBoppy> the distro that will be able to reach high desktop stability using Plasma 5 will get more attention
[09:27] <regedit-work> after upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 is it normal to have 3 past kernels; 3.19.0-32-generic, 3.19.0-33-generic, 3.19.0-39-generic aside from the current 4.2.0-19-generic ?
[09:27] <soundscout> Good morning. :) I'd like to know if someone can point me to a way to get around plasma crashing, when configuring ktelepathy with a google account?
[09:28] <valorie> we're up to 5.5 when that comes out, in the next week or so
[09:29] <valorie> regedit-work: you can run `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[09:29] <FloppyBoppy> valorie, although a good step forward i found it a bit buggy in 15.10 still, I had to get back to LTS
[09:29] <valorie> FloppyBoppy: have you filed bug reports?
[09:30] <FloppyBoppy> yes
[09:30] <valorie> oh good
[09:30] <FloppyBoppy> always do
[09:30] <valorie> excellent
[09:30] <valorie> thanks for that contribution
[09:35] <regedit-work> valorie: that doesnt seem to remove those older kernels / grub boot options
[09:35] <valorie> really?
[09:35] <valorie> hmmm
[09:35] <valorie> always does for me
[09:36] <valorie> I copied that from my own working command
[09:39] <FloppyBoppy> regedit-work, autoremove should clean them out
[09:40] <regedit-work> so uh, what if it doesnt?...
[09:41] <valorie> regedit-work: did it not ask you to restart when it was done?
[09:41] <valorie> please pastebin the readout
[09:41] <valorie> control+shift+C
[09:41] <valorie> !paste
[09:42] <FloppyBoppy> regedit-work,  otherwise try dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[09:42] <FloppyBoppy> and remove the ones that you are not using with dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[NUM]-generic
[09:43] <valorie> I think getting the apt tools working is a better way
[09:43] <valorie> not that the old kernels are causing any harm by laying about
[09:43] <FloppyBoppy> to know your kernel type in terminal "uname -r" Just don't delete that one
[09:51] <regedit-work> valorie: there was a whole lot of output the previous time i ran it, a lot of lines starting with "Del", but i restarted since and dont have that output saved...
[09:51] <regedit-work> nno it just says 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded
[09:51] <regedit-work> *now it just says...
[09:52] <valorie> :(
[09:52] <valorie> so how do you know you still have old kernels?
[09:53] <regedit-work> valorie: options in grub boot menu?
[09:53] <valorie> ah, still there
[09:54] <valorie> and why do they bother you?
[09:54] <valorie> are you short of space?
[09:56] <regedit-work> i am generally disturbed by my problematic troublesome upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10
[09:56] <regedit-work> which froze midaway, crashed system, and made the machine unbootable
[09:57] <regedit-work> i had to make a live USB to recover
[09:57] <regedit-work> and slowly run command after command to try and get things back to sanity
[09:57] <regedit-work> at this point it seems i might be able to go on using the machine as if things might actually work out ok
[09:57] <valorie> that sounds rather dire
[09:58] <valorie> I've gone through a few bad upgrades
[09:58] <regedit-work> but i want to double-check & iron out any weird stuff i find, such as too many boot options / old kernels seemingly hanging around
[09:58] <valorie> right
[09:58] <valorie> most important is to keep good backups
[09:59] <valorie> because a new install is quick and easy
[09:59] <FloppyBoppy> regedit-work, did your computer turn off before finishing the update?
[10:00] <regedit-work> FloppyBoppy: i think it hung about 80% through
[10:00] <regedit-work> during an update initramfs something kernel 4.2.0 or something maybe
[10:01] <regedit-work> after recovering i ran sudo apt-get -f install which told me to run dpkg --configure -a
[10:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:01] <regedit-work> which seemed to do a whole lot of things, *maybe* akin to finishing up the upgrade?... i sunno
[10:01] <regedit-work> *dunno
[10:02] <FloppyBoppy> If it hung during a distro upgrade, i am afraid the best solution for you will be to do a clean install
[10:03] <valorie> regedit-work: you did the right thing
[10:04] <valorie> in fact, sometimes I've fixed it by running those both multiple times
[10:04] <valorie> until everything was clean and tidy
[10:04] <OpenSorce> Is anyone using voice commands?
[10:05] <OpenSorce> Just looking for a recommendation of what you use.
[10:05] <lordievader> OpenSorce: At times...
[10:05] <OpenSorce> What are you using for that? Simon?
[10:06] <lordievader> I use a highly modified version of Voximp if I do.
[10:06] <lordievader> More pocketsphinx than Voximp at this point, but it started out as a Voximp modification.
[10:06] <OpenSorce> lordievader, hmm... what I need really only has to listen for one command and launch one thing.
[10:07] <lordievader> Pocketsphinx can do that for you.
[10:07] <OpenSorce> lordievader, excellent! I'll look into it. Thanks for your help :-)
[10:08] <FloppyBoppy> !meta
[10:08] <regedit-work> valorie: ye i re ran those commands multiple times. i *hope* i can go on using this installation of the OS as is, the remaining quirks just irk/worry me...
[10:09] <valorie> tell us the worrying quirks, and perhaps we can help
[10:10] <QVIKti455> Hello ~!~
[10:12] <regedit-work> valorie: 1 grub entry for booting into Windows Boot Manager has turned into 4 very weird looking ones, each with another variation/mix of the words "efi, boot manager, windows," and such. This happened after boot-repair i believe
[10:16] <regedit-work> valorie: and, under Advanced Options for booting ubuntu, there are 3 additional kernels (each with their recovery version) aside for the current one
[10:19] <regedit-work> valorie: i am mostly just worried whether 1) the upgrade was after all is said & done "complete", or are there unresolved half-done problems waiting to reveal themselves 2) are these weird grub boot options indicative of deeper evils
[10:22] <regedit-work> also, are you still there :)
[10:23] <lordievader> regedit-work: IRC is, in contrary to popular belief, an indirect medium ;)
[10:25] <regedit-work> lordievader: i must not be understanding what your're meaning with that
[10:26] <lordievader> Questions like 'are you still there' imply a direct medium, IRC is not.
[10:27] <lordievader> Valorie will most likely come back in a bit and answer your question, else she'll, most likely, answer it tommorow.
[10:28] <regedit-work> right
[10:28] <regedit-work> oh well then
[10:30] <jure> Is it possible to force one instance of Dolphin with multiple tabs instead of opening new window every time?
[10:44] <valorie> I'm back, but the whole channel is a help channel
[10:44] <valorie> I have no special knowledge, regedit-work
[10:45] <valorie> jure: in views, you can split the window
[10:45] <valorie> as many times as you want
[10:45] <valorie> I don't know why they don't call it tabbing
[10:45] <valorie> however, it approaches 3am here, so ttfn
[10:46] <valorie> regedit-work: you could try running `sudo grub-repair`
[10:46] <valorie> perhaps it is just grub being stupid
[10:46] <valorie> ciao
[10:57] <regedit-work> valorie: i believe the command is update-grub, which i have indeed run plenty of times...
[11:32] <OpenSorce> Grrr... still no luck with making my wife's laptop listen for a single voice command. Oh well, she'll have to keep clicking an icon to bring up her assistant. si la vie :-P
[11:36] <Crystals> I've just installed Kubuntu for the first time on my computer, and I'm having a lot of issues.
[11:36] <Crystals> I'm unable to open the menu in the bottom left with a mouseclick
[11:37] <Crystals> Same goes for the maximize button on firefox
[12:03] <lordievader> OpenSorce: Try out voximp, pretty easy implementation of pocketsphinx.
[12:03] <lordievader> OpenSorce: https://code.google.com/p/voximp/downloads/list
[12:03] <OpenSorce> lordievader, yeah, it's not picking up her mic for some reason.
[12:04] <lordievader> That sounds like a config issue.
[12:04] <OpenSorce> lordievader, I'll probably figure it out tomorrow.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:37] <Smurphy> Mornig
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Morning Smurphy
[14:19] <CrystalMare> I'm having issues with Kubuntu 15.10
[14:19] <CrystalMare> My window manager seems to be unresponsive to mouse input
[14:19] <CrystalMare> The pointer works, just clicking seems to bug out
[14:20] <CrystalMare> It renders kubuntu unuseable
[14:26] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare, but your keyboard input works ok?
[14:26] <CrystalMare> Yes
[14:26] <CrystalMare> The mouse seems to work at times
[14:26] <CrystalMare> But whenever I switch window it does not register clicks
[14:26] <CrystalMare> When I used the keyboard to open firefox, I was able to click inside firefox
[14:26] <CrystalMare> But the maximize button was not responding
[14:26] <BluesKaj> hm, cabled or wirless mouse ?
[14:26] <CrystalMare> Wired
[14:26] <CrystalMare> Madcatz RAT 5
[14:27] <CrystalMare> The scrollwheel does seem to work at times
[14:28] <CrystalMare> https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/477717-Mouse-control-issues-with-KDE-Plasma
[14:28] <CrystalMare> That describes my issues pretty accurately
[14:28] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare, I have to ask, are your packages up to date
[14:28] <CrystalMare> Fresh Install
[14:28] <CrystalMare> I checked the box "update" during the installation process
[14:32] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare, which graphics chip?
[14:32] <CrystalMare> Nvidia GTX570, although I haven't installed drivers yet
[14:34] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare, open a terminal and do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, then we can check the graphics driver recommended for your gpu
[14:34] <CrystalMare> Blues, let me switch to Kubuntu
[14:34] <CrystalMare> I'm dualbooting atm
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:34] <CrystalMare> I'll login with KiwiIRC
[14:34] <CrystalMare> brb, apreciate the help
[14:41] <CrystalMare2> BluesKaj: I've started it
[14:41] <CrystalMare2> What did you want me to run again ?
[14:42] <CrystalMare2> Just update packages ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, open a terminal and do: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[14:42] <CrystalMare2> Its downloading about 138MB right now
[14:43] <CrystalMare2> Also, it took 3 minutes to load the desktop environment
[14:43] <CrystalMare2> I'm running this OS from an SSD
[14:44] <BluesKaj> then to upgrade any kernel modules after the upgrades are finished run, sudo apt dist-upgrade
[14:45] <CrystalMare2> Alright, I'll keep you posted.
[14:45] <CrystalMare2> Yeah, the entire desktop is unresponsive right now O.o
[14:45] <CrystalMare2> I have to use Alt-Tab to switch
[14:45] <CrystalMare2> But clicking inside the app works
[14:47] <BluesKaj> you probly need to reboot
[14:55] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, do you have a linux swap? and a swap entry in /etc/fstab, if so remove it and add swapon /dev/sdXX to /etc/rc.local just above the exit line.
[14:56] <CrystalMare3> BluesKaj: I'm still having issues
[14:57] <CrystalMare3> I've just restarted
[14:57] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, do you have a linux swap? and a swap entry in /etc/fstab, if so remove it and add swapon /dev/sdXX to /etc/rc.local just above the exit line, sdXX being the swap partition
[14:57] <CrystalMare3> I dont swap
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:57] <CrystalMare3> I've got 16GB ram
[14:57] <CrystalMare3> I figured I dont need it
[14:58] <BluesKaj> I was addressing a possible delay by systemd searching for the swap
[14:58] <BluesKaj> boot delay
[14:58] <CrystalMare3> Ah
[14:58] <CrystalMare3> The desktop environment loaded faster this time
[14:58] <CrystalMare3> (after entering the password)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> 16Gb Ram is lots , no swap needed IMO
[14:58] <CrystalMare3> That's why ;)
[14:59] <CrystalMare3> Could having dualmonitor have anything to do with this ?
[14:59] <CrystalMare3> :o this is odd
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ok  system settings>driver manager
[14:59] <CrystalMare3> If I point my mouse over the clock in the bottom-left, it does do the hover
[15:00] <CrystalMare3> I dont know how to reach that, my mouse doesnt work :3
[15:00] <CrystalMare3> nvm, got it
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dual monitor setups are not my strong suit
[15:00] <CrystalMare3> Its asking about my graphics driver
[15:01] <CrystalMare3> binary, legacy binary or Xorg
[15:01] <BluesKaj> does it recommend one?
[15:01] <CrystalMare3> nvidia binary yes
[15:01] <BluesKaj> right choose that one
[15:02] <BluesKaj> it's on the nouveau atm which is the default for all new installs with nvidia gpus
[15:02] <CrystalMare3> ah
[15:02] <CrystalMare3> its installing packages now
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok , think you'll see a different response with your mouse and kwin/window manager
[15:04] <CrystalMare3> Its at 33%
[15:04]  * CrystalMare3 has bad internet
[15:04] <BluesKaj> np, it takes a while to DL and Install the driver
[15:05] <BluesKaj> drom the repository
[15:05] <BluesKaj> from
[15:05] <CrystalMare3> Yeah, I figured
[15:05] <CrystalMare3> Its been 3 years since I last used linux for a desktop environment
[15:05] <BluesKaj> hope it's just a driver problem
[15:05] <CrystalMare3> I've been running Ubuntu on my servers for a long time now
[15:06]  * BluesKaj nods
[15:06] <CrystalMare3> Lets hope this works :D
[15:06] <CrystalMare3> I assume this requires a restart ?
[15:07] <CrystalMare3> Or would restarting the X server be enough ?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yes, if you notifications enabled in your system tray it should pop up, but otherwise once the installer is finished,, reboot
[15:08] <CrystalMare3> Okay, I'm rebooting
[15:12] <CrystalMare2> BluesKaj: it still does not work
[15:13] <CrystalMare2> Like for example: I can press the application-launcher in the bottom left
[15:13] <CrystalMare2> But I can not click any of its entries
[15:14] <CrystalMare2> But using the scroll-wheel to cycle through the categories does work
[15:14] <CrystalMare2> As if the X server does not recognise the window switching
[15:15] <CrystalMare2> On another forum someone was talking about the mouse having re-mapped some of the buttons in the X config
[15:15] <CrystalMare2> But my experience with X is next to none
[15:15] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, system settings>display configuration>compositor try different renedring backend settings in the drop down
[15:17] <CrystalMare2> Is that under advanced settings ?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2,  you could try sudo nvidia-xconfig in the terminal
[15:18] <CrystalMare2> Warning: unable to locate X configuration File
[15:18] <CrystalMare2> it created a new file
[15:18] <CrystalMare2> How do I restart Xorg
[15:19] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, let me correct; system settings>display & monitor>compositor try different renedring backend settings in the drop down
[15:19] <CrystalMare2> Open GL 2.1, 3 or Xrender
[15:20] <BluesKaj> OpenGL 3.1 should work as a renderer for your gpu
[15:20] <CrystalMare2> Alright, do I have to restart the X server now ?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> you can try a logout and login
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> BluesKaj: that seems to have done it!
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> The menu now actually responds and has proper hovers
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> And I can actually interact with the maximize buttons
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok , what about mouse clicks?
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> All good now
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> I can click on the menu
[15:23] <BluesKaj> cool
[15:23] <CrystalMare3> And do things with this
[15:24] <CrystalMare3> Awesome!
[15:24] <CrystalMare3> You made my day!
[15:24] <CrystalMare3> What does the composer actually do then ?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> happy to help CrystalMare3
[15:25] <BluesKaj> !compositor
[15:25] <BluesKaj> !info compositor
[15:26] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare3, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KWin
[15:27] <CrystalMare3> So its the implementation of the window system >?
[15:27] <CrystalMare3> Much like winforms on windows ?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> not sure , my windows experience has been rather limited over the last 10 yrs
[15:38] <CrystalMare3> Going to see if my Xonar D1 can work alongside my Motherboard soundcard
[15:38] <CrystalMare3> So I can use both
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !kwin
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !info kwin
[15:39] <BluesKaj> not much info there
[15:42] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare3, I had my m-audio 1832 working alongside the inte hda for 3 yrs til I got fed up with pulseaudio which the m-s=audio card driver needed to function on website/flash/audio
[15:42] <CrystalMare3> Seems though that spotify does not work
[15:42] <BluesKaj> oops m-audio 192
[15:42] <CrystalMare3> It doesn't launch :3
[15:43] <CrystalMare3> spotify: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:45] <CrystalMare3> Got it
[15:45] <CrystalMare3> Installed some missing things
[15:47] <CrystalMare3> BluesKaj:  how can i configure an application to use another audio output ?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> in system settings > multimedia choose your pci card as the default or "Card 0", then your onboard audio chip as "Card1"  for starters
[15:50] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare,^
[15:56] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare, then to find the audio drivers, cat /proc/asound/modules , we'll need to list these in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:08] <NoCode> Is there an easy fix to get JACK and Flash/ Firefox working with Kubuntu 15.10? I just want to listen to, and watch videos while JACK and Ardour are turned on.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> NoCode, try #jack chat, they might have more experience with ypir kind of audio setup
[16:11] <BluesKaj> your
[16:11] <NoCode> Thanks, am there now. :)
[16:11] <BluesKaj> yeah saw that
[16:12] <BluesKaj> I'm kind of curious about jack, found it confusing
[16:13] <lordievader> Jack is low latency, other than that it is a PITA, if you ask me.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> jack was around before pulseaudio iirc, and with PA onboard it really mucks up the mix for jack
[16:23] <RandomNoob> Hello guys. Is there chance to change size of the top bar of window? it is too large
[16:23] <RandomNoob> that line where is minimize maximize close
[17:21] <mrmagoo> anyone know what would cause missing icons across multiple applications? ie control center and dolphin and the menu
[17:21] <mrmagoo> I just did a fresh install and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[17:21] <mrmagoo> 15.10
[17:22] <mrmagoo> should I be asking here or in #kde?
[19:47] <Toast> Hi, has there been any significant improvement in colour management between 15:04 and 15.10?
[19:48] <Voyage_> how can I make my desktop a bit less glare?
[19:48] <Voyage_> how can I make my desktop a bit less glare? my laptop only has an option to dim the display, not change hue/saturation or contrast
[20:01] <scottn_work> Voyage_: Not exactly what you want but may help - have a look at redshift - http://jonls.dk/redshift/ - dims your screen according to time of day
[20:01] <Voyage_> thanks
[20:04] <RandomNoob> guys im installing themes but in menu i cant see them ?
[20:10] <jubo2> Uhh..
[20:10] <jubo2> something wrong with locks
[20:10] <jubo2> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:11] <jubo2> I needed to remove some lockfile (not this one) because I looked at a conf file diff and didn't figure how to get out of it and killed the apt process
[20:12] <jubo2> Yeah..
[20:12] <jubo2> sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock lock-old
[20:12] <jubo2> could this cause the new lock probelm?
[20:13] <jubo2> what to do? pls help, is kubuntu
[20:14] <jaafar> Hi folks
[20:14] <jaafar> struggling to send files from my phone to my kubuntu system
[20:14] <jaafar> via bluetooth
[20:14] <jaafar> both sides think they are paired
[20:14] <jaafar> but attempts to send simply fail on the phone side
[20:14] <jaafar> any thoughts?
[20:15] <jaafar> phone says simply "connection unsuccessful"
[20:16] <jaafar> nothing appears in dmesg output
[20:16] <jubo2> jaafar: have you tried using KDE Connect instead
[20:16] <jubo2> it uses wlan to connect machines and phones
[20:17] <jaafar> Well, bluetooth is designed for this purpose and I think it should work, after all :)
[20:17] <jaafar> If I get desperate enough I will consider alternatives
[20:18] <jaafar> but... it's such a simple and common usage
[20:18] <jaafar> it would be strange for it not to work
[20:24] <RandomNoob> im installing themes and they are not shown in theme menu :(
[20:38] <regedit> hello
[20:38] <regedit> my system date/time is wrong and keeps being wrong upon reboots
[20:39] <regedit> sudo ntpdate -u ntp.ubuntu.com produces ntpdate[4522]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[20:39] <regedit> BIOS time is set to the correct EST time
[20:40] <regedit>  /etc/default/rcS says UTC=no, meaning linux is currently NOT assuming that the machine time is in UTC
[20:41] <regedit> sudo hwclock --hctosys does temporarily solve the issue for the current session, but problem resumes upon next reboot
[21:18] <clivejo_> whats KDE like on debian?
[23:23] <mparillo> My feeling was that for the average user, KDE on debian is pretty painful. For me, Kubuntu, then Mint, the Manjaro seem to be the KDE distros that work best. You will find some Open SUSE fans out there, but I am not one of them.