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MarconMsturmflut: waitin for ubuntu 16.04 mir 801:30
MarconMits possible get the new one ?01:30
sturmflutMarconM: You probably mean Unity8?01:32
MarconMYes01:32
MarconMsorry01:32
MarconMxD01:32
MarconMdo u have a ubuntu phone or using nexus 4 ?01:32
sturmflutMarconM: The phone is already running Unity8, and you can install unity8 as a package on Ubuntu 15.1001:33
MarconMhunm01:33
MarconMgood to know01:33
MarconMinstall ubuntu on notebook01:33
sturmflutMarconM: I have an Aquaris E4.5, a Meizu MX4 and a Nexus 401:33
MarconMi ll try01:33
MarconMNexus 4 .. here on brazil the smarthphone are too expensives01:33
MarconMT.T01:33
MarconMi ll buy a nexus 4 too01:33
sturmflutThe Nexus 4 is currently still the safest bet because it runs well and it's the only phone that can do convergence01:35
MarconMgood01:36
MarconMsturmflut: do u use telegram ?01:41
sturmflutMarconM: Yes, I use Telegram for everything01:45
MarconMgood01:46
MarconMMarconM01:46
MarconMadd there01:46
sturmflutMarconM: We have several Telegram channels for Ubuntu, I'll send you the links in private01:48
FludgeHello.02:56
FludgeWhenever I try to interact with my device through ADB in the terminal, it can't find it. However, if I open Cydia Impactor and restart the bridge, it works perfectly fine until it close Cydia. What's going on in Cydia and how could I replicate it?02:57
dobeyFludge: you're asking about an ubuntu phone? or what? i don't know what cydia is. ubuntu phones have to be unlocked before you can connect to them with adb. if screen is off, it won't connect03:13
FludgeSorry, no, I'm trying to connect via ADB before Ubuntu Touch is installed.03:13
dobeywhat device?03:15
FludgeA VisualLand Prestige Pro7D.03:17
dobeyyou are trying to port ubuntu to it? it's not a currently supported device03:18
dobey!devices | Fludge03:18
ubot5Fludge: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices03:18
robjhhi all. im trying to checkout a directory from launch pad. but im not even sure what tool i should be using. the directory is at: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/files/head:/examples/08:58
robjhi'd like to faff about a bit with egl :308:59
Marc_Let's ask BQ some info about the convergent phone,  retweet https://twitter.com/K_Peignot/status/67577684439067033609:43
robjhactually. is it possible to make the MX4's root partition bigger?09:55
xxvirusxxhello all11:34
xxvirusxxwho know if is a firmware for mtk6582 ubuntu-touch11:35
xxvirusxx?11:35
sturmflutI wonder if the bq firmware would work on other MT6582 based devices. Probably a few of the peripherals would be different, like the display, but there's a chance the kernel can be tweaked to fit that.13:41
Dragonkeeperanyone else get a battery read bug on bq 4.5 ota-8  <_<13:51
Dragonkeeperhttp://i.imgur.com/lOq4RVS.png13:52
Dragonkeeperhere is a screen shot of it ,,  this was idling on the lock screen for a while, no activity , reading from 100 - 90 %  then instantly dropped13:53
sturmflutDragonkeeper: It's a known bug on all of our MediaTek devices, and every time I want to squash it I can't trigger it for days13:56
sturmflutDragonkeeper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/147191313:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1471913 in Canonical System Image "Battery statistics are incorrect on MTK based devices" [High,Confirmed]13:56
Dragonkeeperhuh , mine seens to update fine charging , not discharging13:57
sturmflutUsually things get back to normal when you reboot, but there was one case where the phone had to be turned off and then on again after a couple of minutes13:57
sturmflutDragonkeeper: It can happen either way. The indicator can get "stuck" at a level forever or just for some time, or the level can suddenly drop.13:59
Dragonkeeperdo we know  why it gets 'stuck'?14:00
sturmflutNope, the manufacturer says it's a hardware problem, but I don't believe that because the data in the first comment to the bug report indicates something else.14:02
sturmflutThe problem is that we don't know of a way to reliably trigger this bug. I'm running a patched kernel on my Aquaris E4.5 phone and a script in the background collects data, but in the last five days I haven't been able to trigger the bug even once.14:03
sturmflutThe MX4 seems to be affected more often, but it's the same for my MX4, no problems in the last week14:05
Dragonkeeperhuh ,  is weird ,  i wouldnt say ive been watching for it  but i do get the bug quite alot ,  the other day i couldnt even turn the phone on because the battery was at 90% then suddenly was 0%14:05
Dragonkeeperths wasnt a problem in all revsions ive used tho14:06
sturmflutYeah, I also don't remember this problem appearing this often back when the first phones were released, it seems like it got worse with more recent kernels14:06
Dragonkeeperwhere should i look if i want to find out if im getting errors or any other info  when this bug occurs ?14:10
sturmflutDragonkeeper: The production kernels don't have the necessary debugging enabled I think. At least I added a lot of additional debugging to my patched version14:16
Dragonkeeperah ok i see, well i hope this bug gets found + squished soon :P14:19
Dragonkeeperalso i tried a mhl cable with bq 4.5  but it didnt seem to register to charge to screen .. i was wondering if this was software or hardware   ?14:21
Dragonkeepers/'to s'/'or s'/14:21
sturmflutNone of the commercially sold phones supports an external display14:24
sturmflutOnly the Nexus devices14:24
Dragonkeeperah ok  so hardware,    thanks :)14:25
robjhI've managed to compile the egltriangle example on my phone. however, i cant launch it :s14:43
robjhdoes anyone know how to launch graphical applications on a ubuntu handset from the command line?14:44
robjhthe error it says is; Can't get connection14:46
robjhI'm able to run the program if i do export MIR_SOCKET=/run/mir_socket. but no extra panes appear14:58
sturmflutDragonkeeper: Hm going through all my logs I might have found something interesting, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471913/comments/4915:22
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1471913 in Canonical System Image "Battery statistics are incorrect on MTK based devices" [High,Confirmed]15:22
sturmflutThis is what I have been suspecting for quite a while, I knew that at least parts of the hardware still reported battery data correctly when the indicator reported it incorrectly, so it can't be a hardware failure alone and in all cases15:25
Dragonkeeperhmm thats interesting n sounds like a jump point15:26
Dragonkeeperattached log file?15:27
sturmflutUploading right now15:28
lotuspsychjethe gmail app sorts serveral mails togheter on different persons, anyone knows why?15:36
lotuspsychjei disabled sorting in normal gmail15:37
sturmflutIsn't it just a webapp?15:37
lotuspsychjesturmflut: yeah but i wanna know why it puts mail togheter15:38
lotuspsychjehmmm seems like conversation view cannot be turned off15:41
Dragonkeeper1st world problems XD15:43
Dragonkeeperah okay i see you log :)15:48
Dragonkeepersturmflur is there a way you know of to update the battery status with a script ?16:03
sturmflutDragonkeeper: No, the data is processed inside the kernel17:48
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scientesis there any way I can get X11?20:42
scienteson nexus 420:42
Myself5ondra, you there?21:05
Myself5please tell me you are ...21:05
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bregmascientes, yes, there is a way to get X11 on the N4, but official support is not ready yet22:24
talonz1whats the benifits of running x11 on a mobile device ?22:46
ljpprobably mainly the ability to use legacy apps22:55
talonz1makes sense23:11
RAOFParticularly if you've plugged in an external display, bluetooth keyboard, and mouse.23:21

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