[01:30] <MarconM> sturmflut: waitin for ubuntu 16.04 mir 8
[01:30] <MarconM> its possible get the new one ?
[01:32] <sturmflut> MarconM: You probably mean Unity8?
[01:32] <MarconM> Yes
[01:32] <MarconM> sorry
[01:32] <MarconM> xD
[01:32] <MarconM> do u have a ubuntu phone or using nexus 4 ?
[01:33] <sturmflut> MarconM: The phone is already running Unity8, and you can install unity8 as a package on Ubuntu 15.10
[01:33] <MarconM> hunm
[01:33] <MarconM> good to know
[01:33] <MarconM> install ubuntu on notebook
[01:33] <sturmflut> MarconM: I have an Aquaris E4.5, a Meizu MX4 and a Nexus 4
[01:33] <MarconM> i ll try
[01:33] <MarconM> Nexus 4 .. here on brazil the smarthphone are too expensives
[01:33] <MarconM> T.T
[01:33] <MarconM> i ll buy a nexus 4 too
[01:35] <sturmflut> The Nexus 4 is currently still the safest bet because it runs well and it's the only phone that can do convergence
[01:36] <MarconM> good
[01:41] <MarconM> sturmflut: do u use telegram ?
[01:45] <sturmflut> MarconM: Yes, I use Telegram for everything
[01:46] <MarconM> good
[01:46] <MarconM> MarconM
[01:46] <MarconM> add there
[01:48] <sturmflut> MarconM: We have several Telegram channels for Ubuntu, I'll send you the links in private
[02:56] <Fludge> Hello.
[02:57] <Fludge> Whenever I try to interact with my device through ADB in the terminal, it can't find it. However, if I open Cydia Impactor and restart the bridge, it works perfectly fine until it close Cydia. What's going on in Cydia and how could I replicate it?
[03:13] <dobey> Fludge: you're asking about an ubuntu phone? or what? i don't know what cydia is. ubuntu phones have to be unlocked before you can connect to them with adb. if screen is off, it won't connect
[03:13] <Fludge> Sorry, no, I'm trying to connect via ADB before Ubuntu Touch is installed.
[03:15] <dobey> what device?
[03:17] <Fludge> A VisualLand Prestige Pro7D.
[03:18] <dobey> you are trying to port ubuntu to it? it's not a currently supported device
[03:18] <dobey> !devices | Fludge
[08:58] <robjh> hi all. im trying to checkout a directory from launch pad. but im not even sure what tool i should be using. the directory is at: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/files/head:/examples/
[08:59] <robjh> i'd like to faff about a bit with egl :3
[09:43] <Marc_> Let's ask BQ some info about the convergent phone,  retweet https://twitter.com/K_Peignot/status/675776844390670336
[09:55] <robjh> actually. is it possible to make the MX4's root partition bigger?
[11:34] <xxvirusxx> hello all
[11:35] <xxvirusxx> who know if is a firmware for mtk6582 ubuntu-touch
[11:35] <xxvirusxx> ?
[13:41] <sturmflut> I wonder if the bq firmware would work on other MT6582 based devices. Probably a few of the peripherals would be different, like the display, but there's a chance the kernel can be tweaked to fit that.
[13:51] <Dragonkeeper> anyone else get a battery read bug on bq 4.5 ota-8  <_<
[13:52] <Dragonkeeper> http://i.imgur.com/lOq4RVS.png
[13:53] <Dragonkeeper> here is a screen shot of it ,,  this was idling on the lock screen for a while, no activity , reading from 100 - 90 %  then instantly dropped
[13:56] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: It's a known bug on all of our MediaTek devices, and every time I want to squash it I can't trigger it for days
[13:56] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471913
[13:57] <Dragonkeeper> huh , mine seens to update fine charging , not discharging
[13:57] <sturmflut> Usually things get back to normal when you reboot, but there was one case where the phone had to be turned off and then on again after a couple of minutes
[13:59] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: It can happen either way. The indicator can get "stuck" at a level forever or just for some time, or the level can suddenly drop.
[14:00] <Dragonkeeper> do we know  why it gets 'stuck'?
[14:02] <sturmflut> Nope, the manufacturer says it's a hardware problem, but I don't believe that because the data in the first comment to the bug report indicates something else.
[14:03] <sturmflut> The problem is that we don't know of a way to reliably trigger this bug. I'm running a patched kernel on my Aquaris E4.5 phone and a script in the background collects data, but in the last five days I haven't been able to trigger the bug even once.
[14:05] <sturmflut> The MX4 seems to be affected more often, but it's the same for my MX4, no problems in the last week
[14:05] <Dragonkeeper> huh ,  is weird ,  i wouldnt say ive been watching for it  but i do get the bug quite alot ,  the other day i couldnt even turn the phone on because the battery was at 90% then suddenly was 0%
[14:06] <Dragonkeeper> ths wasnt a problem in all revsions ive used tho
[14:06] <sturmflut> Yeah, I also don't remember this problem appearing this often back when the first phones were released, it seems like it got worse with more recent kernels
[14:10] <Dragonkeeper> where should i look if i want to find out if im getting errors or any other info  when this bug occurs ?
[14:16] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: The production kernels don't have the necessary debugging enabled I think. At least I added a lot of additional debugging to my patched version
[14:19] <Dragonkeeper> ah ok i see, well i hope this bug gets found + squished soon :P
[14:21] <Dragonkeeper> also i tried a mhl cable with bq 4.5  but it didnt seem to register to charge to screen .. i was wondering if this was software or hardware   ?
[14:21] <Dragonkeeper> s/'to s'/'or s'/
[14:24] <sturmflut> None of the commercially sold phones supports an external display
[14:24] <sturmflut> Only the Nexus devices
[14:25] <Dragonkeeper> ah ok  so hardware,    thanks :)
[14:43] <robjh> I've managed to compile the egltriangle example on my phone. however, i cant launch it :s
[14:44] <robjh> does anyone know how to launch graphical applications on a ubuntu handset from the command line?
[14:46] <robjh> the error it says is; Can't get connection
[14:58] <robjh> I'm able to run the program if i do export MIR_SOCKET=/run/mir_socket. but no extra panes appear
[15:22] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: Hm going through all my logs I might have found something interesting, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471913/comments/49
[15:25] <sturmflut> This is what I have been suspecting for quite a while, I knew that at least parts of the hardware still reported battery data correctly when the indicator reported it incorrectly, so it can't be a hardware failure alone and in all cases
[15:26] <Dragonkeeper> hmm thats interesting n sounds like a jump point
[15:27] <Dragonkeeper> attached log file?
[15:28] <sturmflut> Uploading right now
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> the gmail app sorts serveral mails togheter on different persons, anyone knows why?
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> i disabled sorting in normal gmail
[15:37] <sturmflut> Isn't it just a webapp?
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> sturmflut: yeah but i wanna know why it puts mail togheter
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> hmmm seems like conversation view cannot be turned off
[15:43] <Dragonkeeper> 1st world problems XD
[15:48] <Dragonkeeper> ah okay i see you log :)
[16:03] <Dragonkeeper> sturmflur is there a way you know of to update the battery status with a script ?
[17:48] <sturmflut> Dragonkeeper: No, the data is processed inside the kernel
[20:42] <scientes> is there any way I can get X11?
[20:42] <scientes> on nexus 4
[21:05] <Myself5> ondra, you there?
[21:05] <Myself5> please tell me you are ...
[22:24] <bregma> scientes, yes, there is a way to get X11 on the N4, but official support is not ready yet
[22:46] <talonz1> whats the benifits of running x11 on a mobile device ?
[22:55] <ljp> probably mainly the ability to use legacy apps
[23:11] <talonz1> makes sense
[23:21] <RAOF> Particularly if you've plugged in an external display, bluetooth keyboard, and mouse.