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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:40
knightwisemorning bro11:28
brobostigonmorning knightwise11:31
andylockranmorning brobostigon12:06
brobostigonhi andylockran12:07
andylockranhow's things?12:07
brobostigonheadache, sandpaper throat, achy. and you?12:08
andylockransuper thanks12:08
andylockrangot a verry laggy network and trying to work it out12:08
brobostigon:) :(12:09
knightwiseCatching up on a bunch of paperwork over here12:12
knightwiseHaving your own business tends to do that12:12
mbs_does anyone know how to make a commandline mono program, run without having to add "mono [app name]?12:53
* penguin42 doesn't know much about mono, but if it's a compiled mono program I'd expect you to be able to make a binfmt-misc entry for it12:55
zmoylan-pior write a bash script to call it and make it executable.  it's what i do with perl python scripts i use often12:56
mbs_binfmt-misc, ok will look into this. cheers12:57
mappsshould be criminal13:04
mapps£2.20 a pack of marlboros £5 a litre of stolicynhia13:04
daftykinsmapps: haha13:04
daftykinswhere's that?13:05
mappsgib13:05
mapps;p13:05
daftykinsah, wasn't sure if you were up to your travels!13:10
daftykinshmm i just got an invite to buy a OnePlus X13:11
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sebsebsebhi14:21
NokajiSadly and much to my dismay, the top menu bar/desktop bar (with clock, internet+mail icons etc) is missing, following some issues that lead to a new GFX card.14:50
daftykinsdid you change graphics card type? i.e. AMD -> nvidia or otherwise?14:51
daftykinsthe first thing to check is if it works ok in a guest user session14:51
Nokajioops, someone at the door ...14:55
Nokajistill nvidia,14:55
Nokajigotta run ....14:55
daftykinsok14:55
diddledan_moaning16:48
diddledan_o_O16:50
daftykins\o16:50
diddledan_oh, I misread unitytryer's quit message as an error in my clienty16:50
daftykinsthanks to the genius TJ in -discuss, i modified a sony laptop's BIOS to enable VT-x o016:50
diddledan_the line split oddly16:50
daftykins:D16:50
penguin42daftykins: Modified?16:51
diddledan_I basically saw on a line by itself "error: No route to host" and thought I had problems16:51
diddledan_err, that sounds scary16:51
diddledan_obviously I have problems but that is a different matter entirely16:51
daftykinspenguin42: yeah, NVRAM edit16:52
penguin42daftykins: Ewww!16:52
penguin42daftykins: They missed it off the interface?16:53
daftykinsyeah, common with Son16:53
daftykinsy16:53
penguin42nasty16:53
diddledan_how is that kind of thing discovered?16:53
diddledan_I mean the "fix"16:53
daftykins3 weeks of reverse engineering he said :)16:53
diddledan_ouch16:54
daftykinsthere are posts on the vmware forums that come from his own original work16:54
diddledan_I'm happy, I finished buying christmas today16:54
diddledan_satan is now safely stowed away16:54
daftykinsooh what's the worlds luckiest nephew getting?16:54
diddledan_dinosaurs!16:54
diddledan_plural!16:55
diddledan_the parents of the world's luckiest nephew are getting a large box of thorntons and a pair of jegermeister shots and glasses16:56
diddledan_I was imaginative16:56
daftykinsO)O16:56
daftykinsO_O too16:56
diddledan_(I bought the same for my other sibling and his missus  :-p)16:56
daftykinsdat jagermeister16:56
daftykins:D16:57
diddledan_nowt like a good jagerbomb to clear the winter flu16:57
daftykinsthey taste like calpol on their own ;D16:57
daftykinsor er, 'it'16:57
daftykinshmm already hit 8GB of space occupied by all the FLAC of these opera CDs i'm ripping for someone o017:00
* penguin42 wonders if anyone does bayonet converters that take a bunch of G9 or G4 LED bulbs17:15
daftykinsthat sounds like an abom-bulb-ination17:17
penguin42that's exactly right17:17
penguin42daftykins: I want something about the size of a large compact-flourescent but that actually takes a bunch of G4 or G917:19
penguin42daftykins: you don't seem to be able to get 100W equivalent LED bulbs that aren't huge, and most have very poor angles17:20
daftykins*nod*17:20
daftykinsi still haven't done much about the poor lighting all around my house17:20
penguin42in our landing we have a ~100W equivalent compact flourescent, it rarely lasts more than about 6 months, and rarely that long, I bet it averages 2000-3000 hours17:21
daftykinsi had a problem with ones like that in two light fittings in my lounge, they're on a dimmer circuit but the dimmer function is broken for whatever reason17:23
daftykinsi found some pretty good ones instead that've done me great since, let me take a quick snap - bayonet fitting too17:23
penguin42dimmers rarely work with flouresents17:23
daftykinsyeah17:23
daftykinsa client of mine suggested that had it worked, reducing the brightness before powering off might've kept them alive longer17:24
daftykinssince the function didn't work i think i ignored it and bought non-dimmable ones last17:24
penguin42hmm not sure why17:24
daftykinsthermal trauma i think :D17:24
penguin42poor thing17:25
* diddledan_ wiggles his woggle17:28
daftykinsah mine are nowhere near 100W, i shall link anyway though - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6qy39mj5w1nn313/AABTN5yrUrLAqrkLK0_Wy4q7a?dl=017:28
penguin42we've used various brands17:29
user_3212allah is doing17:34
user_3212sun is not doing Allah is doing17:34
user_3212moon is not doing Allah is doing17:35
user_3212stars are not doing Allah is doing17:35
user_3212planets are not doing Allah is doing17:35
daftykinsstop.17:35
user_3212galaxies are not doing Allah is doing17:36
zmoylan-piis that what happens when an infinite number of cats run across your keyboard?17:36
user_3212oceans are not doing Allah is doing17:36
* zmoylan-pi gets a ham sandwich17:37
user_3212mountains are not doing Allah is doing17:37
user_3212trees are not doing Allah is doing17:37
user_3212mom is not doing Allah is doing17:37
user_3212dad is not doing Allah is doing17:38
user_3212boss is not doing Allah is doing17:38
zmoylan-pizx is not doing, it has ram pack wobble17:38
user_3212job is not doing Allah is doing17:38
user_3212dollar is not doing Allah is doing17:39
user_3212degree is not doing allah is doing17:39
SuperEngineerlooks like a job for popey - or other /op !17:39
user_3212medicine is not doing Allah is doing17:40
zmoylan-pii learned a german word for such... 'Backpfeifengesicht'17:40
zmoylan-pithose germans have a word for everything... :-)17:40
user_3212customers are not doing Allah is doing17:40
user_3212you can not get a job without the permission of Allah17:40
zmoylan-pii wonder if they've ever considered a job in ms tech support, about as useful...17:40
SuperEngineeruser-1 is not an idiot, user_3212 is an idiot17:41
user_3212you can not get married without the permission of Allah17:41
zmoylan-pino no user_3212 is a case of 'Backpfeifengesicht' :-)17:41
user_3212nobody can get angry at you without the permission of Allah17:43
zmoylan-pior in ireland a complete gobdaw17:43
user_3212light is not doing Allah is doing17:43
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user_3212fan is not doing Allah is doing17:43
zmoylan-pianother week for the solstice17:43
user_3212businessess are not doing allah is doing17:44
user_3212america is not doing allah is doing17:44
user_3212fire can not burn without the permission of Allah17:45
user_3212knife can not cut without the permission of Allah17:45
user_3212rulers are17:45
daftykins!op17:45
lubotu3`Help!  DJones, Myrtti, Mez, AlanBell, popey, Gary, Seeker`, Daviey, PriceChild or X3N17:45
user_3212rulers are not doing Allah is doing17:46
daftykinsyay k1l_ to save the day17:46
Myrtticould you not proselytise on Ubuntu channels?17:46
user_3212governments are not doing Allah is doing17:47
zmoylan-pithank you17:47
SuperEngineeryeah Myrtti17:47
daftykinsyay Myrtti \o/17:47
zmoylan-pisame plonker i think17:48
user_3216sleep is not doing Allah is doing17:49
penguin42Myrtti has done17:49
zmoylan-pibecause as we all know this a pasterfarian channel... bless his noodly appendeges... :-P17:50
daftykinspenguin42: :D17:51
daftykinszmoylan-pi: well said17:51
zmoylan-pithough we also accept disciples of the invisible pink unicorn because they're awesome :-)17:54
brobostigon:)17:54
SuperEngineeras are yellow crouching tortoises [to be politically coorect]17:55
brobostigonand rge great green arkleseizure.17:55
SuperEngineer:-)17:56
MyrttiI personally hail the ancient Finnish pantheon17:56
daftykinsyour words made zmoylan-pi lose his terminal :(17:57
zmoylan-pii'm back, and this time my pi is angry...17:57
brobostigonhis terminal spontniously converted into a cricket.17:58
zmoylan-piit is green when it's angry...17:58
daftykinsdoes that mean we won't like it?18:01
diddledan_oh yeah, I was supposed to be being social. I got carried away looking at amazon that I forgot about y'all :-p18:02
diddledan_http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B010V2EUOI?psc=1 *drool*18:02
zmoylan-piusing amazon is social?18:02
diddledan_zmoylan-pi: no, using amazon sidetracked me from being social18:02
diddledan_grr, icloud will you please stop telling me you want me to give apple monies for "moar storage"18:03
diddledan_it bellows at me very regularly (maybe every 15 minutes? or even more regular)18:04
zmoylan-piwell apple need the money...18:04
diddledan_apple has more money than america18:04
diddledan_i.e. the country18:05
diddledan_I wonder if tim cook will be the first billionaire to turn into batman?18:05
SuperEngineerphew, for a sec I thought you america the banana shaped fish-monkey!18:05
zmoylan-pia bit old for batman...18:06
diddledan_is america a verb now?18:06
zmoylan-pito america a country... kinda makes sense :-)18:06
SuperEngineerdiddledan_, don't blame me just bewcause your not telepathic18:06
diddledan_SuperEngineer said he thought I america'ed the banana shaped monkey18:06
diddledan_I'm not sure what a banana shaped fishmonkey is18:07
SuperEngineer..& there was I thinking you were edumacated, diddledan_18:08
diddledan_I do know about seamonkeys tho - they're the pets that children buy dehydrated that they rehydrate to die a slow and painful death18:08
zmoylan-pithat's why cats are better pets, you hurt a cat and the little sod will have it's revenge... :-)18:09
diddledan_"look, ma, I made creatures" .. "look, ma, I killed them all!"18:09
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* diddledan_ awaits amazon's dispatch notice19:15
brobostigon:)19:15
diddledan_sprees are fun19:15
brobostigonnew toy?19:15
diddledan_*s19:15
daftykins:D19:15
brobostigon:)19:15
diddledan_plural! :-p19:16
daftykinsi've got yet more gear on the way myself!19:16
diddledan_tis the season for selfish purchases :-D19:16
daftykinsoh no, i bought a samsung S4 LCD to fix up a friends phone19:16
daftykins£49.99 is pretty good for one19:16
diddledan_bah you're not doing it right19:17
daftykinssure i am! i get the great fuzzy feeling of fixing, success - AND get paid at the end!19:17
diddledan_and then toys?19:17
daftykinswell i'm doing it for cost since it's a mate :)19:17
diddledan_bah you're not doing it right19:17
diddledan_:-p19:17
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/svdkjz4syy7ll96/subwoofer.mp4?dl=019:17
diddledan_meow19:18
diddledan_no, wait, wrong animal19:18
daftykinsmight try and get this fixed  though, then i can enjoy christmas time entertainments19:18
diddledan_flash is required?!19:18
diddledan_dropbox y u do dis?!19:18
daftykinscan just hit download, no?19:18
daftykinsprobably just their vid player19:18
diddledan_that means downloading it tho :-p19:18
diddledan_then I have to go to the bother of deleting it afterward19:19
daftykinsoh i'm sure curiosity will get the better of you19:19
diddledan_bleeping nora19:19
diddledan_that's huge19:19
diddledan_that's bigger than my flat!19:20
daftykinswhat, the sub? :P19:20
diddledan_aye19:20
daftykinsit's only like, 8"19:20
diddledan_I could live comfortable in that19:20
zmoylan-pisee what you do is say the samsung s4 will never be the same again and give them a nokia dumbphone :-)19:22
diddledan_tell them you've loaded new apps like "snake"19:22
zmoylan-piand buttons...19:23
diddledan_so a watch I haven't worn in over 3 years is still running, and despite being on summer time is telling the correct date and time within 4 minutes (minus the one hour of summer from gmt)19:25
diddledan_it's the equivalent to a nokia dumbphone in terms of watches tho19:26
daftykins:D19:26
daftykinsis it that classic Casio digital? ;)19:26
diddledan_it's an el cheapo casio water resistant thingy19:26
daftykinsXD!19:26
* zmoylan-pi reports diddledan_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W#Claimed_use_in_terrorism19:27
diddledan_it's the kind of casio that has three buttons - light, mode and 12/24 hour19:27
* zmoylan-pi wonders if i can get a reward in amazon vouchers... :-P19:28
diddledan_yeah it's one of those only with a metal case and strap instead of placcy19:28
daftykinsmy one of those went for a good 11 years i think19:28
diddledan_this is the guy: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-A163WA-1QES-Classic-Digital-Watch/dp/B000KDBJIE19:31
zmoylan-pia classic19:32
diddledan_does anyone use flickr these days?19:35
penguin42diddledan_: I'm thinking of switching to it, Google's new photo stuff is really really annoying me19:37
zmoylan-pithey offer a silly amount of space these days don't they?19:49
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diddledan_the new independence day trailer is out21:30
diddledan_looks epic21:30
daftykins:O21:30
daftykinsmight you possesseth a link?21:30
diddledan_I saw it on facebook so there wasn't a link :-(21:30
daftykinsD:21:30
diddledan_I'm guessing it's on boobtube tho21:30
daftykinsmmm probably21:31
diddledan_the verge has it https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiWtdS75NnJAhUHOxQKHbo8CgcQqQIIIDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2015%2F12%2F13%2F10034926%2Findependence-day-resurgence-trailer-jeff-goldblum&usg=AFQjCNFTPQBDQ40q6Twt3eDI9_rwUQxTKA&sig2=MhSwy4zW1-KFoDo-lfly3w&bvm=bv.109910813,d.d2421:31
diddledan_eww link :-(21:31
diddledan_try this: http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/13/10034926/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-jeff-goldblum21:32
diddledan_that one won't tell teh googs that you've been there21:32
diddledan_the video is at https://youtu.be/LbduDRH2m2M21:32
diddledan_eep https://twitter.com/danluu/status/67606629337244467221:35
daftykinso021:36
* zmoylan-pi remembers the fun of dos 6 and write caching...21:38
diddledan_dispatch notification finally22:23
diddledan_left it late22:23
zmoylan-pithe notification was delayed in christmas post...22:23
diddledan_o_O22:24
diddledan_email...22:24
* diddledan_ tries to figure that one out22:24
diddledan_my brian hurts22:24
diddledan_two parcels arriving tomoz then22:25
diddledan_\o/22:25
diddledan_I should prolly go to bed so I can be awake bright and early so as not to miss the driver22:25
daftykinsnext day delivery, what a dream you mainlanders live :)22:25
diddledan_lol22:25
diddledan_amazon prime22:25
diddledan_it's free next day22:26
zmoylan-pione deliveryman will deliver a while you were out notice but the second delivery man won't because there was someone at the door :-)22:26
diddledan_<322:26
daftykinsdiddledan_: yeah, no such thing with an island though22:26
diddledan_britain is an island :-p22:26
daftykinsone day down to the south coast maybe, one for the flight or boat... delay if the weather is bad...22:26
daftykinsi really hate it when people say that22:27
daftykinsor worse use it for Australia, it's the dumbest thing22:27
daftykins:P22:27
diddledan_lol, pulling legs is fun22:27
diddledan_or the americas22:27
diddledan_north and south america together are an island22:27
diddledan_asia and africa and most of europe are an island, too22:28
zmoylan-pithose poor austrian kangaroos... :-P22:28
daftykinshmm kangaroos carrying a good sized stein, excellent image22:28
daftykins:D22:28
zmoylan-piin leiderhosen22:28
daftykinsthey'd pop over the border to a beer festival you see22:28
daftykinsabsolutely!22:29
daftykinsoder ich denkt das ist 'leder'22:29
diddledan_whassat skippy? lil timmy fell down a well and broke his leg and can't climb out and is getting hungry and the well is dry so he's also thirsty? ... "dad? how did you get all that from the 'roo chewing it's teeth?"22:29
diddledan_tie me kangeroo down, spowt22:29
zmoylan-piand mention of skippy pops the useless fact that skippy was stuck to a board to keep him in place for filming that tv show...22:30
daftykinshe should've silenced that kangaroo, we'd still have animal hospital22:30
diddledan_the chav version is "tie the bish daan bruv"22:30
diddledan_animal hospital was good22:31
zmoylan-piinnit22:31
diddledan_I don't care if he is convicted of being a bar steward, he made good entertainment22:32
diddledan_the two are orthoganol in my mind22:32
diddledan_one has no bearing on the other22:32
diddledan_that's a posh word to be using late on a sunday22:33
zmoylan-pinext up... antidisestablishmentarianism22:35
diddledan_you know what I think? I'm gonna tell you: using words that aren't real like referring to people as bae is totes craycray. YOLO.22:35
* daftykins glances back in, does a U turn, strolls out :)22:36
diddledan_apparently the yoof think that using punctuation makes you a jerk22:36
daftykinsdid you see that amusing article that suggests a correlation between sentences ending with a full stop and someone being in a mood? :D22:37
zmoylan-pipeople get annoyed when i add my name to the end of an sms... so i do it just for that reason :-D22:37
diddledan_no.22:38
diddledan_seewhatididthere?22:38
daftykinszmoylan-pi: i had you pegged for that sort of guy!22:38
zmoylan-pii switch sims fairly often so it may be the first time they see the new number22:38
daftykinsthat reminds me of my bemusement toward those that can't work out third person in a /me22:38
diddledan_I used to be speedy at texting on my old nokia dumbphones22:39
zmoylan-pibuttons allow more feedback and allow you to send the process of typing to muscle memory22:39
diddledan_predictive text with my mind predicting what the predictive text would predict so that I get the predictive text to predict the right predictions and correct wrong predictions by predicting how many time I have to hit "next" was awesome22:40
zmoylan-piwith touch screens your hands have to rest away from the screen whereas your fingers could rest on the buttons without pressing them22:40
diddledan_aye22:40
diddledan_also buttons are easier to know your fingers are in the right place22:40
diddledan_the T9 dictionary was an amazing invention22:41
daftykinsyou can get by typing on a smartphone a lot with just faith22:42
diddledan_combined with only pressing each button once instead of the older way of a,b,c. a. p,q,r. p,q,r. m,n,o. m,n.22:42
zmoylan-pii didn't like t9.  i used 3 presses to get a c keyboard.  worked for me.  and i preferred phones with full qwerty keyboards like my current 30222:42
daftykinshit where things are and it'll guess the right thing more often than not :>22:42
diddledan_missed off the Y22:42
diddledan_w,x,y.22:42
diddledan_I loved being able to press each button once instead of three times22:43
diddledan_maybe they should bring-back the T9 and put it on smartphones?22:44
diddledan_replace full qwerty with a 12key pad22:44
zmoylan-pisamsung have released a clamshell phone with buttons and android i think, it might have t922:44
diddledan_nono, it's gotta be touchscreen still22:45
diddledan_clamshells are old22:45
diddledan_and mouldy22:45
diddledan_like my toes22:45
zmoylan-pipeople liked clamshells as it protects the screen and you can end calls by snapping it closed22:45
diddledan_true22:45
zmoylan-pino bum dialling22:45
diddledan_I like the 7110 though which was a similar action to end the call by snapping the mouthpiece back over the keys22:46
diddledan_(the 7110 was the martix-like one)22:46
zmoylan-pii loved my n70 that had a sliding cover to protect the camera.  slide the cover and camera fired up. great for taking pics of cats22:46
diddledan_yeah that's something we should reuse22:47
zmoylan-piand also meant you knew the camera was in use22:47
diddledan_I like the ipwn with it's usage of the volume button to take a photo, tooo22:47
m0nkey_20 years later, they come back.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbduDRH2m2M22:49
diddledan_m0nkey_: I squeed like a schoolgirl22:49
daftykinsyep diddledan_ showed us his Jeff Goldbum earlier ;)22:49
* diddledan_ wiggles it22:49
m0nkey_Just seen it myself22:49
daftykinsyou can't unsee!22:49
daftykinsoh the trailer ;)22:50
diddledan_:-p22:50
m0nkey_No Will Smith22:50
diddledan_:-(22:50
diddledan_sucky22:50
diddledan_at least it's got the hacker22:50
zmoylan-pii hope those aliens have upgraded their ships to lightening data cables... :-)22:50
m0nkey_The web site gives that spoiler away22:50
daftykinsikr, who's going to be hip and enthusiastic to reach to the younger generations?22:50
diddledan_who undoubtedly won't use a mac this time around22:50
daftykinszmoylan-pi: i'd bet they ditched firewire when we did22:50
daftykinsoh wait we never adopted firewire! 8D22:51
diddledan_the first ipod was firewire22:51
daftykinsreminds me of selling my PIII to a coursemate and he bought a firewire card, lul22:52
diddledan_\o/22:52
diddledan_gotta love idealism22:52
diddledan_or maybe that should be optimism22:52
diddledan_so with my (killing?) spree coming to fruition tomorrow does that make it xmas already?22:57
diddledan_there's nothing like an xmas killing spree22:57
daftykinsGOURANGA!22:58
daftykins</GTA1>22:58
diddledan_never played it22:58
daftykinswat22:58
diddledan_or if I did I didn't know what to do so I just ran over as many pedestrians as possible22:59
daftykinsgouranga is the message displayed on-screen when you run over all the Hare Krishna procession folks22:59
diddledan_aah23:00
diddledan_gotta love killing religious types23:00
daftykinshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn7NzBrxYtw23:00
diddledan_I suppose they're worth more points because the deity believes in them more23:00
daftykinsi can't believe it's only 11pm! early mornings are weird.23:00
diddledan_don't you love the perfect right-angled bends?23:01
diddledan_it looks like habbo hotel!23:02
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diddledan_ok, I've just lost all credebility now23:02
daftykins:)23:04
diddledan_omg it still exists23:06
diddledan_and looks exactly the same as it always used to23:06
diddledan_second life still exissts too23:08
daftykinszomg23:09
daftykinsdoes habbo use flash? ;)23:09
diddledan_it alwasy used to23:09
daftykinsi seem to remember going on it with friends in sixth form and blocking someone in a corner23:11
diddledan_at sixth form the only chat we found that wasn't blocked by the firewall was freeserve23:12
daftykinsoy23:12
daftykinssomeone got UT'99 running, which i thoroughly schooled the yeargroup at23:12
diddledan_I suppose I need to figure out what to wipe off the work laptop in case they want it back23:13
diddledan_I've already taken _my_ SSD out and put the hard disk it came with back-in23:14
diddledan_that ssd was a samsung evo 1TB jobby I got in last year's black friday \o/23:15
Myrttijuniors don't remember23:15
Myrttihttp://habbo.wikia.com/wiki/Mobiles_Disco23:15
daftykinsdiddledan_: :D did what went back in have a horrendously out of date install, due to that?23:16
diddledan_I copied the disk across23:16
diddledan_partitions**23:16
daftykinsoh on giving it back o0 funky23:18
daftykinser i mean ahead of23:19

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