| Darkwing | Long time no chat mates | 03:32 |
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| tsdgeos | in case anyone cares, i had to uninstall sddm from xenial since it was basically not working (switching to black every other second), lightdm works fine | 10:19 |
| tsdgeos | may need a rebuild because of the latest qt landings (uneducated guess) | 10:19 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:09 |
| Yossarianuk | mgraesslin: interesting post regarding future desktop gaming - thanks -> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/12/gaming-on-linux-move-to-next-generation/ | 14:18 |
| Yossarianuk | [14:22] <Yossarianuk> | 14:29 |
| Yossarianuk | whoops | 14:29 |
| Yossarianuk | to prove your point Civ5 crashes if I alt+tab out the game (on nvidia) | 14:29 |
| yofel | many games do that when you alt+tab in fullscreen mode, which is why I only play games where I plan to do that in windowed mode. With the described performance penalty sadly. | 14:36 |
| Yossarianuk | its odd really as when I first played Civ5 on Linux it worked fine. This would have been on an older version of the nvidia driver/xorg version , etc.. Its not KDE related though - happens on other DE's too. | 14:44 |
| yofel | *sigh*, ever since I upgraded my server to wily, quasselcore crashes several times per day and gets stuck before it can respawn | 15:14 |
| yofel | lets see if Qt5.5 helps | 15:44 |
| soee | hiho | 15:49 |
| sgclark | hello | 16:01 |
| soee | frameworks 5.17 have been released :) | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | to where? | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | soee, ^' | 16:09 |
| soee | BluesKaj: just released by devs https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.17.0.php :-) | 16:10 |
| sgclark | yofel: so I ran into a corner case with our scripts... two new frameworks breeze-icons and oxygen-icons5 have epochs. I hacked my way around, but I cannot commit - no rights. Probably needs a better solution anyway. | 16:11 |
| soee | yofel: are there any plans to add this year new frameworks or plasma in xenial/wily ? | 16:11 |
| sgclark | soee: I am working on them nowl.................. | 16:11 |
| sgclark | yofel: so I ran into a corner case with our scripts... two new frameworks breeze-icons and oxygen-icons5 have epochs. I hacked my way around, but I cannot commit - no rights. Probably needs a better solution anyway. | 16:11 |
| sgclark | sorry | 16:11 |
| soee | ha ok :) | 16:12 |
| sgclark | but I travel back home tomorrow so any help would be lovely | 16:12 |
| yofel | huh? | 16:12 |
| * yofel looks | 16:12 | |
| yofel | wait, why is "breeze-icons" a framework?!? | 16:13 |
| sgclark | ask kde? | 16:13 |
| sgclark | so is oxygen-icons5 | 16:13 |
| yofel | nah, too much effort for nothing. I shouldn't even be surprised as I've given up understanding upstream decisions a long time ago | 16:14 |
| soee | they wer moved to frameworks like few weeks ago i think | 16:14 |
| soee | i think to provide updates every month not with each plasma release | 16:14 |
| yofel | sgclark: what's the permission issue exactly? | 16:14 |
| yofel | also: where does that epoch come from? | 16:15 |
| sgclark | denied or rejected or some such. dunno it was late last night. | 16:15 |
| sgclark | yofel: Riddell | 16:15 |
| yofel | SIGH | 16:15 |
| yofel | hm, sitter was getting connection errors from moszumanska today | 16:16 |
| yofel | maybe related | 16:16 |
| sgclark | ok | 16:16 |
| yofel | ah, the binaries have epochs. That's ok then | 16:16 |
| yofel | they just need to be added to the packages-with-epoch list | 16:17 |
| sgclark | I tried that | 16:17 |
| sgclark | did nothing | 16:17 |
| sgclark | because you have an if statement on top setting frameworks to "" | 16:17 |
| sgclark | I moved it down and did an if else | 16:17 |
| sgclark | which worked for the two icons packages. | 16:18 |
| yofel | if releaseType == "plasma" or releaseType == "applications": | 16:18 |
| yofel | changelogEpoch = epoch if package in packagesWithEpoch else "" | 16:18 |
| yofel | that if looks very out of place | 16:18 |
| yofel | TBH, I wouldn't do an initial release of a source with the scripts at all | 16:19 |
| yofel | that's not something they were written for | 16:19 |
| sgclark | huh? | 16:19 |
| sgclark | I can't keep up as it is and now you want me to do all packages by hand first? LOL | 16:20 |
| yofel | i mean: run script for the old set of sources, once done add the new ones to the list and do them by hand. | 16:20 |
| yofel | there is no way to "update" an "initial release" of a source | 16:20 |
| yofel | so the scripts will probably Do The Wrong Thing | 16:21 |
| sgclark | oh I am doing oxygen-icons5 by hand | 16:21 |
| sgclark | it needs to be moved to frameworks as well. | 16:21 |
| sgclark | but the rest I can do via script.. right? | 16:21 |
| * sgclark faints if not | 16:21 | |
| yofel | back to the epoch: do you want to fix the epoch whitelisting to include frameworks or should I? | 16:22 |
| sgclark | I can, but not today, last day with family, traveling home tomorrow | 16:22 |
| yofel | then lets see who gets to it first | 16:22 |
| sgclark | ok | 16:22 |
| yofel | the script should work fine for the rest of the packages, just don't include the 2 new ones in the package list | 16:23 |
| sgclark | most of the packages are building in staging. I am working on manuals now which include those. | 16:23 |
| clivejo | sgclark: is the status page working? | 16:31 |
| yofel | clivejo: I'm just fixing that | 16:32 |
| clivejo | yofel: :) | 16:32 |
| sgclark | yofel: thanks | 16:32 |
| yofel | pushed, should be there in a couple mins | 16:32 |
| clivejo | what version is it? | 16:33 |
| yofel | 5.17 | 16:33 |
| clivejo | we skip .16 ? | 16:33 |
| yofel | yep | 16:33 |
| clivejo | is qt5.5 fixed now? | 16:38 |
| yofel | I don't know what was broken, but it's in xenial release | 16:38 |
| yofel | some plasma 5.4.3 pieces are still stuck in -proposed | 16:38 |
| clivejo | yofel: link on qa appears to be broken - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.17.0_xenial.html.new | 16:40 |
| clivejo | why the .new ? | 16:40 |
| sgclark | clivejo: it has not populated yet | 16:40 |
| yofel | that's not broken, that's the tmp file while it's generating | 16:41 |
| clivejo | oh ok | 16:41 |
| yofel | (that actually takes a while, which is why this is a cronjob, and not just a CGI script) | 16:41 |
| * clivejo waits some more | 16:41 | |
| sgclark | and as far as skipping .16 , I am still buried in debian merges, loss in family, I simply cannot keep up. With holidays coming up, I see no improvements any time soon. | 16:42 |
| yofel | I was actually thinking about doing the page non-cronned. You could implement that as a fully client-side angular app or so, but that would be a) still slow, b) crazy ^^ | 16:44 |
| clivejo | networkmanager-qt needs symbols looked at | 16:49 |
| sgclark | it needs the new networkmanager | 16:54 |
| sgclark | which needs a debian merge | 16:54 |
| sgclark | doubt I will get to that in the next few days | 16:54 |
| clivejo | any documents/how-to's for doing a debian merge? | 16:55 |
| yofel | the short guide: run diff against debian and ubuntu package, take the vanilla debian package, look at what changes are relevant in the diff, apply those to debian package | 16:56 |
| yofel | the actual procedure depends on the package | 16:56 |
| clivejo | Id need a few runs though I think | 16:57 |
| sgclark | clivejo: the kde packages are much easier, checkout kubuntu_unstable git merge master and then fix the conflicts and push. All of applications still need doing if you want to help... :) | 16:58 |
| yofel | sgclark: I don't see any NM requirement that failed in the log? | 16:58 |
| yofel | and that's not something we maintain either | 16:58 |
| yofel | this just looks like plain broken ABI (haven't checked the function visibility) | 16:59 |
| sgclark | yofel: those symbols are from the newest NM. debian has the new NM and we don't, yes I am aware that is something we do not maintain, but a good practice for obtaining core | 16:59 |
| yofel | ah ok | 17:00 |
| sgclark | yofel: I have already researched and verified by ScottK | 17:00 |
| yofel | thanks | 17:00 |
| yofel | sgclark: I just removed the epoch special-handling for frameworks from staging-upload. That's code that I forgot to remove when I reversed the epoch handling and was practically a noop since then | 17:12 |
| sgclark | yofel: thanks! | 17:12 |
| clivejo | santa_ !!!! | 19:37 |
| clivejo | you're alive! | 19:38 |
| santa_ | yes | 19:40 |
| clivejo | havent seen you in weeks! | 19:41 |
| santa_ | yes | 19:41 |
| clivejo | what you been up to? | 19:41 |
| santa_ | nothing special, personal life and such | 19:42 |
| santa_ | I guess I will try to resume my kubuntu's stuff | 19:43 |
| clivejo | yofel: would you be free to give me a quick step by step tutorial on merging a package? | 20:34 |
| clivejo | if we pick one and do it together? | 20:35 |
| clivejo | sgclark: or you ? ^^ | 20:45 |
| sgclark | clivejo: last day with my family :( can't till tomorrow night. But will then if yofel can't | 20:51 |
| soee | sgclark: hows the work on KF5.17 going ? | 21:00 |
| clivejo | soee: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.17.0_xenial.html | 21:01 |
| clivejo | few problems! | 21:01 |
| soee | ah, cool that we have status page:) | 21:01 |
| clivejo | what is wrong with this build - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/230011318/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kinit_5.17.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 21:11 |
| clivejo | why is it removing everything?!? | 21:11 |
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