[01:29] <ghostnetwork> having an issue. macbook pro first gen intel running kubuntu is giving me an error message (initramfs)
[01:30] <ghostnetwork> kubuntu contains a file system with errors , check forced
[01:31] <ghostnetwork> Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphaned file link list found
[01:31] <ghostnetwork> unexpected consistency found run fsck manually
[01:35] <ghostnetwork> anyone there?
[01:49] <ghostnetwork> ????
[02:50] <RoadRunner> how is kubuntu different from debian under KDE?
[02:50] <dark-jedi> unexpected consistency? That's an odd backhanded compliment for a crash message.
[02:51] <dark-jedi> RoadRunner: Depends on how risky you're willing to run Debian KDE.
[02:53] <ghostnetwork> yeah its giving me bizarre errors
[02:53] <ghostnetwork> almost all my permissions are denied or commands don't exist
[02:54] <ghostnetwork> any commands to just repair everything even if i have permission denied?
[02:56] <dark-jedi> ghostnetwork: If permission is denied, you would have to log in as root to run the commands. And, the commands to repair would depend entirely on the error messages you get.
[02:58] <dark-jedi> ghostnetwork: I have to run though. Hopefully someone else in this channel will be able to get you started on fixing it.
[02:58] <ghostnetwork> how would i go about doing that? i am using macbook pro firstgen intel. my reg boot up is messed to begin with (but kubuntu did run normally) i turn it on , hold down option and i click on kubuntu ( it would normally run last night)
[03:15] <RoadRunner> basicaly, I am choosing a distro for game develpment and need advice
[03:34] <RoadRunner> coming from a world of Windows, is the learning curve likely to be easier for me with kubuntu or with debian under kde, or is the difference minimal?
[03:38] <ghostnetwork> any idea how to log in as root? i don't have very many options.... but i just want to wipe the drive on my laptop so i can retry getting kubuntu/xubuntu installed
[06:22] <valorie> RoadRunner: those who run KDE on Debian are generally experts
[06:22] <valorie> we make Kubuntu friendly for everybody
[06:23] <valorie> that said, download some ISOs and try them out as a live session
[06:23] <valorie> see what you like
[10:04] <batandwa> Hi all
[10:04] <batandwa> I'm having issues with akonadi_agent_launcher using a lot of memory.
[10:05] <batandwa> Any ideas on what might be causing it?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:09] <mausschubser> Hallo
[13:12] <mausschubser> today I started my computer and I detected that all my buttons for closing, maximizing and minimizing were gone
[13:12] <mausschubser> can someone tell me how to get them back?
[13:12] <mausschubser> thanks in advancew
[13:15] <BluesKaj> mausschubser, update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade
[13:16] <mausschubser> I will try, thanks
[13:30] <mausschubser> BluesKaj: unfortunately it didn help
[13:31] <BluesKaj> mausschubser, which graphics ?
[13:31] <mausschubser> intel
[13:31] <mausschubser> hd4000, I think
[13:31] <mausschubser> it worked finde until today
[13:32] <BluesKaj> ok which kubuntu version?
[13:32] <mausschubser> 14.04
[13:33] <BluesKaj> mausschubser, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[13:34] <BluesKaj> think it's probly the i915
[13:34] <mausschubser> i have to leave once again
[13:34] <mausschubser> brb
[13:35] <mausschubser> youe right
[13:35] <mausschubser> you're right
[13:35] <mausschubser> i915
[13:38] <BluesKaj> are you using any ppa sources ? and make sure you have the backportd enable in your sources.list or package manager
[13:39] <BluesKaj> backports enabled
[13:40] <mausschubser> backports are enabled
[13:41] <mausschubser> I am not quite sure about ppa but I think I have one
[13:42] <mausschubser> as I cannot jump between the windows this has become a single-task-system
[13:43] <mausschubser> it all happened after updating the kernel, I think I will try an older one
[13:43] <mausschubser> cu later
[15:49] <asach4> hello, I am on 15.10. Could you please tell me whether there is any way to add multiple wallpapers in FOLDER VIEW SETTINGS > WALLPAPER? or is there any way we can right click on a wallpaper and set it as desktop background?
[16:23] <ragehead> guys it's possible to downgrade the kernel, right?
[16:24] <ragehead> I will transfer the config files from the current standard kubuntu kernel to an older one that has proven to be 100% on my system
[16:24] <ragehead> 100% stable* of course lol
[16:26] <ragehead> talking about 15.10
[16:29] <eluus> I have video performance issues with Kubuntu 15.10, is there anyone who can help?
[16:30] <Smurphy> eluus: video perfomance ? What GPU you using ?
[16:30] <eluus> it's intel
[16:30] <Smurphy> ah - ok. And you use vlc ?
[16:31] <eluus> yeah
[16:31] <Smurphy> for video playback ? or what do you mean by video performance issues ?
[16:31] <eluus> on vlc it's only problematic when I connect it to an external display
[16:31] <Smurphy> so what is happening ?
[16:31] <eluus> the issue is mainly on external display and when playing youtube videos
[16:31] <eluus> html5 or flash
[16:31] <eluus> it's a Intel® HD Graphics 4400 to be precise
[16:31] <Smurphy> There is no acceleration for it.
[16:32] <eluus> It's a recent and reasonably fast computer it shouldn't have performance issues
[16:33] <eluus> It didn't have these issues with unity
[16:33] <Smurphy> yes. I have the same GPU, and have no issues with the performance.
[16:33] <eluus> on kubuntu?
[16:33] <eluus> 15.10?
[16:34] <Smurphy> Yes. Kubuntu 15.10 on a Mac Mini 2012 6,2 - with i7 Quad Core 2.6GHhz CPU
[16:34] <Smurphy> But - there is no acceleration in the browsers.
[16:34] <Smurphy> hardware acceleration, so it all goes through the CPU.
[16:35] <eluus> my resolution is 2560x1440, maybe that's what is causing the problem
[16:35] <Smurphy> no. Should not. I have 2 full HD screens connected to it.
[16:36] <eluus> wow
[16:36] <eluus> and  can you play videos on them smoothly?
[16:36] <ragehead> such amaze
[16:36] <Smurphy> yes.
[16:36] <Smurphy> one on each even. Works nice. On connected through Display port, the other through HDMI. Just fine.
[16:36] <eluus> k so, what do you think my problem is?
[16:37] <Smurphy> Do you have issues/problems notified in /var/log/Xorg.log
[16:37] <Smurphy> ?
[16:38] <eluus> let me check
[16:38] <Smurphy>  egrep "(EE)|(WW)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:39] <Smurphy> Sorry, use this one:
[16:39] <Smurphy> egrep "\(EE\)|\(WW\)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:40] <eluus> these could be related:
[16:40] <eluus> [     3.781] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[16:40] <eluus> [     3.781] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[16:40] <eluus> [     3.782] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[16:40] <Smurphy> yes. Looks like your system does not get a decent mode information for your screens.
[16:42] <eluus> How can I fix that?
[16:45] <Smurphy> Check out other cables :}
[16:49] <eluus> what cables?
[16:50] <Smurphy> Video. It is unable to read the EDID from the screen...
[16:52] <eluus> Really? do you think it's an hardware issue?
[16:53] <Smurphy> it should not. But it also depends on the drivers you use./
[16:54] <Smurphy> Using the intel_drv.so
[16:54] <eluus> It's all default drivers
[16:54] <Smurphy> check in the /var/log/Xorg.log file.
[16:54] <Smurphy> compiled for 1.17.2, module version = 2.99.917
[16:55] <Smurphy> could be that I added some other drivers.
[16:55] <eluus> [     3.780] 	compiled for 1.17.2, module version = 2.99.917
[16:55] <eluus> [     3.780] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[16:56] <Smurphy> Will have to leave -> we go swimming every mondeay evening with the kids.
[16:56] <Smurphy> Be back later.
[16:56] <eluus> k cya
[17:46] <ragehead> Can somebody please help me what I can do to get rid of this error here when compiling the kernel? https://dpaste.de/xN1p
[17:53] <CrystalMare2> BluesKaj: are you around ?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, yes, I'm here
[17:56] <CrystalMare2> Its happend again
[17:56] <CrystalMare2> After we fixed it the other day, I've been using it for the rest of the day
[17:56] <CrystalMare2> Now I restarted the machine, and its broken yet again :(
[18:01] <CrystalMare2> you wut
[18:01] <CrystalMare2> I did CTRL ALT F2
[18:02] <CrystalMare2> And then CTRL ALT F7 to return to X
[18:02] <CrystalMare2> and that seems to have fixed it
[18:02] <CrystalMare2> Why it does this, I have no idea
[18:05] <BluesKaj> CrystalMare2, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log  to see if there are any obvious errors
[18:06] <BluesKaj> X is probly crashing some lib or such when booting
[18:06] <CrystalMare2> nothing in there
[18:07] <BluesKaj> doyou mean it's empty or no errors?
[18:10] <CrystalMare2> no errors
[18:11] <CrystalMare> K, got hexchat to work
[18:11] <ragehead> hackschat
[18:11] <CrystalMare> xd
[18:11] <ragehead> guys, we have a racing game on linux! grid autosport is available for linux!
[18:11] <ragehead> I'm so happy right now, it's downloading
[18:12] <ragehead> finally vroomvroom with linux
[18:12] <BluesKaj> ragehead, btw why are compiling a kernel , is it a specialist kernel of some kind/
[18:12] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:13] <ragehead> BlueKaj: yes, also both of the standard shipped 4.2.0 kernel have issues for me when booting
[18:14] <ragehead> I have my startup SSD encrypted and when booting up, the keyboard doesn't work for some reason
[18:14] <BluesKaj> ragehead, do you have some kind of unique or exotic hardware ?
[18:14] <ragehead> so then I need to reset the machine with the hw button and the GRUB menu pops up. then when booting, the screen stays black but I can type in my pw blindly and it boots up
[18:15] <ragehead> not really, just a 2500k on a z77 mobo w 7870 AMD graphics
[18:15] <ragehead> with mint kde I had no issues like this, however I wanted plasma 5 so I switched to kubuntu
[18:16] <ragehead> on mint kde I used 3.16 kernel, I wish to stay with that kernel. however make throws that error at me and I have no clue how to fix it
[18:16] <ragehead> maybe I'll just go for a precompiled kernel then first...
[18:16] <BluesKaj> you can edit grub to showup without being hidden and enable sddm in the VT/TTY , sudo systemctl enable sddm
[18:17] <ragehead> BluesKaj: thanks, wait a second, I'll try to do this right now
[18:17] <BluesKaj> sddm being the login page for kubuntu
[18:17] <ragehead> does it need to be TTY?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> yes it's best
[18:17] <ragehead> okay
[18:18] <ragehead> but wait, sddm is the loginmanager, right?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:18] <ragehead> to show grub at every boot I have to modify the loginmanager?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> no
[18:19] <BluesKaj> just make the sddm appear
[18:20] <denza242> ragehead: alternatively, hold the shift key down while booting
[18:20] <BluesKaj> you can edit grub in kate  then update grub after making the timeout changes
[18:20] <denza242> ^you'll need to be superuser
[18:21] <BluesKaj> `gotta use kdesudo in order to save changes
[18:21] <denza242> ragehead: alternatively you could use grub-customizer, but I'm not sure if it's in teh official repos
[18:21] <denza242> !info grub-customizer
[18:21] <ragehead> I'll use vim :D
[18:21] <denza242> that works I suppose
[18:21] <ragehead> I'm currently searching for the grub config files
[18:21] <BluesKaj> denza242, don't suggest that app ,,it's real clunky and dangerous
[18:21] <denza242> I see
[18:22] <denza242> BluesKaj: plus it's GTK based :P
[18:22] <ragehead> I'm quite new in the linux world but I'm coming from Mac OS X, not linux so I already know the bash
[18:22] <ragehead> now windows* sorry
[18:22] <ragehead> I need more coffee
[18:22] <ragehead> not* yikes!
[18:23] <BluesKaj> ragehead, in the run comman,  kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub
[18:23] <BluesKaj> command
[18:24] <BluesKaj> run command ,right click on the desktop, or alt+F2
[18:26] <BluesKaj> after editing save, then run sudo update-grub in the terminal
[18:26] <ragehead> thank you guys, I will now try to reboot and see if it worked. it's just a workaround, but a workaround is still better than having to reset manually at every boot
[18:26] <ragehead> hopefully brb
[18:36] <ragehead> re
[18:36] <BluesKaj> ragehead, this is what my grub looks like if you need to compare http://pastebin.ca/3287376
[18:37] <ragehead> it doesn't seem to be working when grub is showing up, I guess it has to do with some kind of fallback mode the OS utilizes when it sees that it wasn't shut down properly
[18:37] <ragehead> the issue remains
[18:38] <BluesKaj> not shutting down properly?
[18:38] <ragehead> BluesKaj: thank you for your help, I just compared them and there doesn't seem to be a difference
[18:38] <denza242> ragehead: I might be able to help, what's the problem exactly (I joined a bit after you and 'Kaj were talking)
[18:39] <ragehead> yes, I mean when I first boot, the cryptsetup asks for the pw of the boot partition and I can see the pw field where I need to enter my pw
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ragehead, which kubuntu?
[18:39] <ragehead> however I can't type anything and have to reset the computer manually. then, the next boot, the screens stay black but I can type in the pw and it boots up
[18:39] <ragehead> denza242: thanks :)
[18:40] <ragehead> it's kubuntu 15.10
[18:40] <denza242> ragehead: GPU vendor?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> are your packages up to date
[18:41] <ragehead> yes, everything is up to date and I have an AMD card with the proprietary drivers
[18:41] <ragehead> wait a second, I got an idea: maybe I need to pick the other driver that end in "-updates"
[18:42] <BluesKaj> there's a lot of upgrading going on to plasma 5
[18:42] <ragehead> fglrx-updates I mean
[18:42] <BluesKaj> ragehead, no don't choose the -updates driver
[18:43] <BluesKaj> fglrx should work
[18:43] <ragehead> okay
[18:44] <BluesKaj> wait until the packages to you resktop etc are upgraded then if there still apoblem , the experiment with the gpu driver
[18:44] <BluesKaj> desktop even
[18:45] <ragehead> okay, will do
[18:45] <ragehead> until then I guess I'll have to push the button when booting up
[18:46] <BluesKaj> ragehead, do sudo apt-get dist-update
[18:46] <ragehead> it's more of an cosmetic issue, but I guess you know it is, one always wants to have it working perfectly
[18:46] <BluesKaj> oops, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:47] <ragehead> I see, I noticed ;D
[18:47] <ragehead> something got updated, I will try again
[18:49] <BluesKaj> the reason is that kernel upgrades usually require a dist-upgrade
[18:49] <BluesKaj> oops, he's gone again
[19:12] <ragehead> re
[19:12] <ragehead> I tried updating and upgrading, it didn't work
[19:14] <BluesKaj> the reason is that kernel upgrades usually require an apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <ragehead> I don't seem to be first one having this problem, however all the fixes I can find are fixes for distros that use init instead of systemd and I cannot find a way to configure my systemd to include usb ehci usb uhci and usb ohci modules
[19:14] <ragehead> I did that
[19:15] <BluesKaj> usb modules for what?
[19:15] <ragehead> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/non-working-usb-keyboard-at-luks-prompt-14-1-a-4175484332/ e.g.
[19:16] <ragehead> there is no mkinitrd on my machine and I guess that's normal
[19:19] <BluesKaj> if you installed a non-default kernel then it's not easy to track don your problems, so i'd be wary of that kind of fix
[19:20] <ragehead> okay, but it's the standard kernel and this issue exists since install
[19:23] <BluesKaj> I'd research drivers for your gpu, perhaps fglrx isn't the correct driver...amd seems to have several choixes that sort of work , but not perfectly
[19:23] <ragehead> I now added some entries to initramfs, I will now try it again
[19:25] <Simonious> I followed the instructions here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Ubuntu_.2814.04.3.29 starting with wget... and it boots, things are working, but apt-get update gives: http://pastebin.com/ZDFzADYq - I'm still poking at it, but I'd welcome suggestions to get apt-get working properly.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Simonious, don't run as root, and make sure your sources.list is correct for your kubuntu version
[19:28] <Simonious> BluesKaj: I don't know how to make sure the sources.list is correct - it's a clean, fresh, new download..  *shrugs*
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Simonious,  run,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:30] <BluesKaj> not as root just use sudo
[19:32] <Simonious> BluesKaj: looks like the same result at first glance: http://pastebin.com/sAK6FRCq
[19:34] <BluesKaj> Simonious, what's this  /root$
[19:34] <Simonious> my current working dir
[19:34] <BluesKaj> is this a raspi setup , arm architecture
[19:34] <Simonious> it's where I happened to be when I switched out of the root account - no, it's a Beaglebone Black
[19:35] <Simonious> I did this on a raspi last week and that worked fine.
[19:35] <Simonious> might end up going back to that..  had some file system crashes on that though
[19:35] <Simonious> May have just been a bad SD card, might be worth giving it another chance.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> best to ask in #raspberrypi
[19:43] <ragehead> re
[19:44] <ragehead> I tried adding some entries other people claimed on the launchpad bugtracker to be the fixed with no success. I don't care anymore, most important thing is, that this thing boots - no matter how
[19:45] <Simonious> BluesKaj: well hand editig resolv.conf worked, though it does specify not to hand edit the file, cause it'll get overwritten.  Still it's working for the moment, so I guess I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
[19:45] <Simonious> thanks again
[19:46] <ragehead> ah yes, thanks BluesKaj, I forgot to mention this
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Simonious, you can edit your settings to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base and they won't be overwritten despite the warning
[19:53] <Simonious> cool
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Simonious, correction  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head, at one time both base and head were editable, looks like now it's just "head"
[20:19] <Simonious> BluesKaj: ty
[20:25] <Allyouzombies> I am having this issue.  can't boot from any drives. it doesn't know any sudo commands and denies me access to most commands...(initramfs)
[21:15] <henry_> kubuntu vs LM KDE go
[21:21] <BluesKaj> henry_, no polls please ...do the research yourself
[23:39] <robert__> hello
[23:40] <robert__> anyone here?
[23:52] <valorie> pfff