[05:49] <pitti> Good morning
[05:51] <hikiko> Hello
[05:52] <darkxst> hey pitti hikiko
[05:53] <darkxst> pitti, can you hint ubuntu-gnome-meta through proposed, its blocked on s390x being uninstallable
[05:54] <pitti> hey darkxst
[05:54] <pitti> darkxst: will have a look, yes
[05:55] <darkxst> permanently if possible? I really don't think it seems like something we would ever support!
[05:57] <darkxst> pitti, thanks
[06:03] <didrocks> good morning
[06:05] <hikiko> Hey didrocks pitti darkxst
[06:06] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[06:06] <darkxst> hey didrocks
[06:08] <didrocks> good evening darkxst
[06:11] <darkxst> not so much, the start of another heat wave by the looks of it ;(
[06:12] <didrocks> argh, here winter (or rather late fall) is definitively here
[06:15] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[06:16] <pitti> darkxst: hm, I actually don't know how to hint over uninstallability; Laney, can you teach me?
[06:19] <didrocks> bonjour pitti !
[06:20] <didrocks> bon week-end ?
[06:20] <pitti> didrocks: oui, mais beaucoup de travailler :)
[06:22] <pitti> didrocks: on fait le menage, beaucoup de biscuits (qui met 7 heures..), et quelques autres choses avant les vacances de Noël
[06:22] <pitti> didrocks: et toi ?
[06:22] <didrocks> pitti: beaucoup plus calme pour moi :) on est sorti voir des amis le samedi, et dimanche, voté, puis resté à la maison (j'ai fini à nouveau "the last of us")
[07:19] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:20] <didrocks> morning seb128
[07:21] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[07:33] <seb128> didrocks, thanks for the geonames MIR review
[07:33] <seb128> larsu proposed the changes for u-c-c on friday, which means we can land that today ;-)
[07:35] <didrocks> seb128: yw!
[07:35] <didrocks> nice :)
[08:09] <larsu> happy Monday!
[08:09] <larsu> hi pitti seb128 and didrocks? How were your weekends?
[08:10] <seb128> hey larsu
[08:10] <seb128> "ok"
[08:11] <seb128> I got a cold on thursday and so, and it got worth
[08:11] <larsu> oh sorry to hear :( Get better!
[08:11] <seb128> like blocked nose, headache, fever
[08:11] <seb128> thanks
[08:11] <larsu> why are you working then?
[08:11] <larsu> get to bed!
[08:11] <seb128> I think I'm over the main part
[08:11] <seb128> well, that was yesterday
[08:12] <seb128> today the fever is gone and I start feeling better
[08:12] <larsu> ah, ok. Left the bad parts of the cold for your free days, eh?
[08:12] <seb128> also doing IRC from the couch in pyjama in not really exausting ;-)
[08:12] <didrocks> good morning larsu, my week-end was good! went to see friends and played/finishes some video games
[08:12] <seb128> yeah :-/
[08:12] <larsu> haha
[08:12] <seb128> also better to have the cold now than during holidays
[08:12] <larsu> indeed!
[08:13] <larsu> I think I might have one as well (Faina just had one and I'm feeling an itch in my throat)
[08:14] <seb128> oh, take it easy!
[08:15] <larsu> it's not bad at all yet - I even went to the gym just now and was fine
[08:15] <pitti> hey larsu and seb128 !
[08:15] <pitti> seb128: uh, get well soon! *hug*
[08:15] <seb128> I did some mistakes on this one, I helped friends to carry firewood on friday
[08:16] <seb128> and I went to a special tennis mixed group event saturday afternoon
[08:16] <pitti> larsu: quite busy indeed! we cleaned the appartment, spent 7 hours on baking "Plaetzchen" (Christmas cookies), and some other xmas prep
[08:16] <seb128> (I only had the nose blocked by then and I though that would be ok, but rest would probably have been smarter)
[08:16] <seb128> hey pitti, merci
[08:16]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[08:17] <didrocks> stricking news *hundreds of people infected in north of Europe*
[08:17] <didrocks> :)
[08:18]  * pitti chuckles about didrocks' typo, it actually makes sense in German (stricking == knitting)
[08:18] <pitti> and indeed that has become quite popular again :)
[08:20] <larsu> pitti: Plätzchen!!!
[08:20] <larsu> yummie
[08:57] <willcooke> morning all
[08:57] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:03] <Laney> hey hey
[09:03] <willcooke> morning Laney
[09:03] <willcooke> it's so dark today I have to have the lights on during the day :(
[09:04] <willcooke> still, only another week and a bit until the winter equinox
[09:05] <Laney> mmm, pretty grey out there
[09:06] <didrocks> good morning Laney, had a nice long week-end?
[09:06] <didrocks> willcooke: man, move a nice country, where we had sun and blue sky :)
[09:06] <willcooke> :'(
[09:07] <willcooke> didrocks, don't supposed you're interested in doing a house swap this summer? ;)
[09:08] <didrocks> willcooke: haha, let's see, only if you can garantuee 100% sun :)
[09:08] <willcooke> I can 100% not guarantee that
[09:08] <didrocks> ;)
[09:10] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney, how are you?
[09:10] <willcooke> morning seb128
[09:10] <Laney> pitti: you probably want to make it not build the uninstallable package
[09:10] <Laney> and hi
[09:10] <Laney> hey didrocks and seb128!
[09:11] <Laney> I got like 2 items of christmas shopping...
[09:11] <Laney> but otherwise it was nice seeing family and friends, had a christmas meal yesterday
[09:11] <Laney> and decorated the tree
[09:11] <seb128> nice
[09:11] <Laney> the shop sold me a quite eccentric one
[09:12] <Laney> so it looks funny but i quite likt that
[09:12] <Laney> what about you?
[09:12] <seb128> got a cold, spent sunday on a couch with blankets and fever :-/
[09:13] <seb128> I start being a bit better today
[09:13] <willcooke> :( feel better seb128
[09:13] <seb128> thanks
[09:13] <Laney> oh no
[09:14] <seb128> better now than during holidays ;-)
[09:14] <seb128> why is britney blocking compiz? it has some uninstallability on s390 but I doubt it's coming from the update
[09:16] <Laney> that needs fixing
[09:16] <seb128> what needs fixing?
[09:16] <seb128> britney?
[09:16] <Laney> no
[09:16] <Laney> compiz
[09:17] <seb128> well, the update is not making anything worth
[09:17] <seb128> it should be blocked
[09:17] <seb128> "fixing" compiz has a long chain
[09:17] <Laney> it is going to make an uninstallable package which britney won't do
[09:17] <seb128> going to libindicator which is not building on s390 yet because it needs mono
[09:17] <seb128> that package is already uninstallable
[09:17] <seb128> no?
[09:18] <seb128> it basically goes down to s390 being incomplete atm
[09:18] <Laney> then go talk to adam about changing britney to allow this
[09:18] <Laney> but as it stands it needs to be fixed
[09:18] <seb128> or s390 needs to be removed from the compiz archs :p
[09:18] <Laney> that would count as a fix
[09:18] <seb128> that would solve the installability issue
[09:19] <seb128> I wonder if we should do that
[09:19] <seb128> I'm not going to fix mono on s390
[09:19] <seb128> xnox ^ do you know if anybody is working on that?
[09:20] <Trevinho> Morning folks
[09:21] <seb128> hey Trevinho! how are you?
[09:22] <seb128> oh, seems like xnox did build mono on s390 yesterday
[09:22]  * seb128 retries libindicator
[09:23] <seb128> libappindicator rather
[09:23] <didrocks> morning Trevinho
[09:24] <seb128> no, mono not installable
[09:24] <seb128> do we have porter s390 machines?
[09:25] <seb128> or boxes we can use to debug installability issues
[09:26]  * seb128 retries gtk-sharp build
[09:27] <seb128> no :-(
[09:27] <Laney> on snakefruit there is a chdist that you can use
[09:27] <seb128> thanks
[09:27] <Laney> seems to work though
[09:28] <seb128> what? mono?
[09:28] <Laney> apt-get build-dep libappindicator
[09:28] <seb128> I'm trying to understand https://launchpadlibrarian.net/229872115/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-s390x.gtk-sharp2_2.12.10-5.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:29] <seb128> libappindicator is unhappy because libgtk2.0-cil-dev can't be installed
[09:29] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/229960923/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-s390x.libappindicator_12.10.1%2B15.04.20141110-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:30] <seb128> Laney, how does that chdist work?
[09:31] <Laney> chdist apt-get xenial-proposed-s390x --dry-run build-dep libappindicator
[09:31] <Laney> as the ubuntu-archive user
[09:34] <seb128> thanks
[09:35] <seb128> so I guess it's a component mismatch issue
[09:35] <Laney> or the bootstrap archive
[09:35]  * seb128 checks where mono binaries have been sent
[09:37] <seb128> hum, rmadison doesn't know about s390
[09:46] <seb128> Laney, or is that chdist using the special bootstrap archive where the builders are not?
[09:46] <Laney> the other way around
[09:46] <Trevinho> Hi didrocks
[09:46] <Laney> but I added it and don't see the problem still
[09:46] <seb128> hum, k
[09:46] <seb128> could be a component mismatch
[09:46] <Laney> also tried with removing universe
[09:46] <Trevinho> Hey seb128, better, but leaving London today :-(
[09:46] <Laney> and rmadison does have s390x
[09:47] <Trevinho> seb128: you?
[09:47] <seb128> Trevinho, having a cold, but I'm over the fewer and starting being better
[09:47] <seb128> Trevinho, had a fun w.e in London?
[09:47] <seb128> Laney, it doesn't for me, does it has a cache that can be stalled or something?
[09:48] <Laney> no
[09:48] <Laney> rmadison -a s390x -s xenial-proposed -S mono
[09:48] <Laney> works
[09:48] <seb128> $ rmadison -s xenial -a s390 -S mono
[09:48] <seb128> $
[09:48] <Laney> x
[09:48] <seb128> or
[09:48] <seb128> proposed
[09:48] <seb128> DOH
[09:48] <seb128> thanks
[09:48] <Laney> hehe
[09:48] <seb128> but no
[09:48] <seb128> oh, yes
[09:48] <seb128> and s390x
[09:49] <seb128> nothing seems wrong with the components there :-/
[09:51] <Laney> this is odd
[09:51] <Laney> also my desktop's unity session didn't come up
[09:51] <seb128> :-(
[09:51]  * Laney nooooo
[09:52] <seb128> Laney, can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/no-gcc-recommends/+merge/280179 ?
[09:52] <seb128> I added the correct recommends (I think at least)
[09:52] <Laney> yep
[09:52] <Laney> thanks
[09:53] <seb128> thanks for spotting the error
[09:56] <Laney> any time (H)
[09:59] <didrocks> pitti: If you have any time/ideas on that topic, I'm quite stuck now on bug #1525841 (tried to describe all the testing and such)
[09:59] <didrocks> pitti: unfortunately, plymouth debug mode doesn't help much :/
[10:03] <pitti> didrocks: will look in a bit, currently stuck on something
[10:03] <didrocks> sure
[10:08] <seb128> willcooke, btw unsure if you saw my request for review on https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-themes/update-nautilus-theme/+merge/279468 / if you have any opinion on that
[10:08] <Laney> bah
[10:08] <seb128> Laney, did you figure it out?
[10:08] <Laney> I don't get this libappindicator thing
[10:08] <seb128> :-(
[10:08] <Laney> I stole one of the autopkgtest s390x machines
[10:08] <Laney> ubuntu@adt-xenial:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep libappindicator
[10:09] <Laney> ...
[10:09] <Laney> After this operation, 916 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:09] <Laney> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[10:10] <seb128> that doesn't make much sense to me
[10:10] <seb128> libappindicator requires gtk-sharp2
[10:10] <seb128> which never built on s390x
[10:10] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-sharp2/2.12.10-5.1/+build/8374832
[10:10] <seb128> are you sure the official builders use that bootstrap archive?
[10:11] <seb128> though ^ should build, since mono is built for s390x in xenial-proposed
[10:11] <seb128> so unsure why those are not installable
[10:13] <Laney> cli-common-dev seems ok to me
[10:13] <Laney> with or without bootstrap
[10:14] <seb128> is there any of your env where you could disable universe?
[10:14] <seb128> if things work then it has to be a component mismatch issue
[10:14] <Laney> I did
[10:14] <seb128> :-(
[10:15] <Laney> see what xnox has to say
[10:40] <xnox> seb128, it's in -proposed at the moment
[10:40] <seb128> xnox, hey
[10:40] <xnox> seb128, what's mismatched?
[10:40] <xnox> yo ;-)
[10:41] <seb128> xnox, I don't know, I'm trying to understand https://launchpadlibrarian.net/229961165/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-s390x.gtk-sharp2_2.12.10-5.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:41] <seb128> it's from an hour ago
[10:42] <xnox> mono is in xenial-proposed only, that build record is for xenial-release only. We need mono tracker and transition mono first, before we can build all the mono on s390x.
[10:43] <willcooke> seb128, I'll give it a test
[10:44] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[10:44] <seb128> oh right
[10:44] <seb128> or we need a no change upload of gtk-sharp2
[10:44] <willcooke> seb128, seems I didnt get an email or any kind of notification about that review request though?
[10:44] <seb128> so it builds in proposed
[10:44] <xnox> which is what my plan to work on today a bit was =)
[10:45] <seb128> willcooke, you should have, do you filter launchpad emails to a spam box?
[10:45] <xnox> seb128, please don't do that it's much easier to just retrigger it in the release pocket.
[10:45] <xnox> and makes mono transition bigger... and then trades things cross arch.
[10:45] <seb128> xnox, what is blocking mono to migrate?
[10:45] <xnox> it's a transition
[10:45] <xnox> seb128, similar to e.g. debian https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-mono.html
[10:45] <xnox> which i am setting up for us.
[10:46] <seb128> k
[10:58] <xnox> seb128, you can help, by removing obsolete and uninstallable packages though ;-)
[10:58] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-runcommand/+bug/1525716
[10:58] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber-service-sohu/+bug/1525718
[10:58] <xnox> so plasma4 is gone, yet some of the widgets remain; gwibber is gone, yet some gwibber-service-* remain.
[10:59] <seb128> xnox, I can do that
[10:59] <xnox> tah, that will lower uninstallable count across all arches, which is good.
[10:59]  * larsu wonders if we have a garbage collector for such packages
[11:00] <xnox> it's poor removal skills... e.g. when gwibber was removed, it's reverse deps & build-deps should have been removed too
[11:01] <seb128> yeah
[11:02] <didrocks> xnox: speaking of which, planning on working on the issues for the s390-* packages that were pre-promoted but doesn't apply to MIR requirements?
[11:02] <didrocks> (in case you didn't see my comments ;))
[11:03] <xnox> didrocks, i did see your comments.
[11:03] <didrocks> xnox: good, just ping me once the fixes will be in!
[11:06] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: around?
[11:06] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, hi hi
[11:13] <xnox> xnox> didrocks, i did see your comments.
 didrocks, planning to work on them. however not sure i'll get them done this week. And if i don't get them done this week, it will spill over to the next year.
 they are on my "todo" list -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=s390x
[11:13] <xnox> * xnox ponders if I lost the internetz
[11:17] <didrocks> xnox: you did!
[11:18] <xnox> sigh, i forgot to push ben configs. i need more coffee...
[11:18] <xnox> Laney, does transition tracker run every hour or every 15 minutes?
[11:20] <Laney> every minute if proposed has changed and it's not running
[11:20] <Laney> iir
[11:20] <Laney> c
[11:20] <xnox> oh, cool.
[11:21] <xnox> but does proposed needs to move to get it to run at all?
[11:21] <xnox> well i just uploaded s390-tools that should do it.
[11:22] <Laney> yeah
[11:22] <Laney> you can already start if you look at update_output
[11:27] <xnox> i know... i'm being lazy =)
[11:50]  * Laney fixes dbus-sharp ftbfs
[11:50] <Laney> (maybe)
[11:51] <seb128> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/15.04.0+16.04.20151214-0ubuntu1 if you want to promoted the geonames binaries
[11:58] <didrocks> seb128: done!
[11:58] <seb128> didrocks, thanks!
[12:00] <didrocks> yw
[12:42] <willcooke> Trevinho, before you leave London today, if you have time, could you speak to Mathieu James about getting:  1) a new eject icon 2) a new Bluetooth icon set 3) your svn/png request 4) a new "+" icon for creating new tabs in Terminal?
[12:42] <willcooke> (as per our meeting last week with design)
[12:42] <willcooke> ((just going trough the notes))
[12:44] <seb128> willcooke, one week we forgot in london than I wanted to ask design what nautilus icons
[12:44] <seb128> they are big in xenial
[12:44] <seb128> we should maybe lower that
[12:44] <willcooke> seb128, yeah, agreed.  We can just make them smaller and I will send digitalalex a screenshot for approval
[12:45] <willcooke> seems like a"no-brainer" to me
[12:45] <seb128> do we just want to put the default to the smallest value?
[12:45] <seb128> is that small enough?
[12:45] <seb128> or do we want to change the scale/how
[12:46] <seb128> like an extra value smaller and keep the current set otherwise?
[12:46] <didrocks> sounds the safest bet (and back to where we were)
[12:46] <didrocks> and yeah, +1 for that change the sooner, the better
[12:46] <didrocks> (making hard to use nautilus everyday)
[12:46] <seb128> didrocks, adding an extra smaller value?
[12:47] <seb128> or just changing the default?
[12:47] <seb128> or both?
[12:47] <seb128> I talked a bit to upstream about it
[12:47] <didrocks> changing the default IMHO, we were scaling them back before, right?
[12:47] <seb128> we had more zoom levels before
[12:47] <seb128> you could go quite small
[12:47] <seb128> issue said that one issue they have is that they said their canvas sucks
[12:48] <seb128> so the spacing/padding is not smart enough to look good at all zoom levels
[12:48] <seb128> that's why they limit it
[12:48] <didrocks> well, that doesn't prevent to have a "sane" default :p
[12:48] <didrocks> which isn't the current one
[12:48] <seb128> I'm going to experiment a bit, at least lower the default from one step and maybe add a 48px value if that doesn't looks too buggy
[12:48] <didrocks> yeah
[12:48] <seb128> right
[12:48] <seb128> didrocks, willcooke, thanks for the feedback
[12:48] <didrocks> FWIW 48px is "okish" IMHO
[12:49] <didrocks> but still just a little bit too big for my taste
[12:49] <didrocks> (but I could bear with it)
[12:49] <seb128> the current set is 64/96/128
[12:49] <seb128> 64 is a bit big to my taste as well
[12:49] <seb128> I'm going to get at least 48 back
[12:49] <didrocks> ah, sorry, I thought *that* was 64
[12:50] <didrocks> yeah
[12:53] <seb128> pitti, did the way journald works changed in xenial?
[12:53] <seb128> I get those in syslog when I open a guest session
[12:53] <seb128> apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" profile="/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session" name="/run/systemd/journal/stdout" pid=13907 comm="dbus-daemon" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w" fsuid=993 ouid=0
[12:53] <seb128> I guess the guest session profile needs an update
[12:53] <pitti> seb128: there's been a few bug fixes, but no structural change
[12:54] <pitti> right, I guess so
[12:54] <seb128> but I didn't remember seeing those on wily
[12:54] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[12:55] <xnox> seb128, libindicate uses obsolete build-dep. I fixed that. Now it seems to have a generic too-much-Wall-Werror-build-failure can somebody take a look at it?
[12:55] <seb128> xnox, I can
[12:55] <xnox> thank you =)
[12:55] <seb128> yw:
[12:55] <seb128> yw!
[12:55] <xnox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicate/12.10.1-0ubuntu4
[12:56] <xnox> i'm not happy with the new mono by the way... loads of things FTBFS: https://launchpad.net/~xnox/+archive/ubuntu/nonvirt/+packages
[12:56] <xnox> and the tracker is crap too. I shall design a better one.
[12:57] <Laney> there are some removals to be done there
[12:59] <seb128> I removed clutter-sharp as it was removed in Debian
[13:00] <xnox> looks like loads of things use "old" 2.0/4.0 "abis" yet only 4.5 is available now.
[13:01] <xnox> so things were bitrotting.
[13:02] <Laney> boo
[13:02] <Laney> tomboy-blogposter seems crufty
[13:02] <Laney> ampsharp has a removal bug
[13:02]  * xnox is rebuilding tomboy, as that is not installable...
[13:02] <Laney> gnome-desktop-sharp2
[13:02]  * xnox thinks we should keep tomboy....
[13:02] <xnox> gnome-desktop-sharp2 is good
[13:03] <xnox> (arm64 has always failed, the rest built)
[13:03] <Laney> mummy
[13:03] <Laney> I said tomboy-blogposter
[13:03] <Laney> gnome-desktop-sharp2 is removed from debian.
[13:03] <xnox> what's up with mono-addins? a generic build-failure or should things migrate to something else?
[13:04] <Laney> ndesk-dbus
[13:04] <xnox> Laney, tomboy-blogposter -> it was never in debian no?
[13:05] <xnox> (and i think we can fix it)
[13:05] <Laney> who cares about carrying random ancient cruft around?
[13:05] <Laney> but if you want to spend your time doing that, go nuts
[13:05]  * xnox thought tomboy was a flagship app...
[13:06] <Laney> doesn't mean that every addon for it is flagship does it
[13:40] <Laney> lllllllllllunchhhhhhhhhhh
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[14:40] <seb128> happyaron, hey, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1509829 ?
[14:52]  * xnox ponders if i should upload things when i have no idea what i am doing
[14:52]  * xnox is hacking mono / C# project files.
[14:56] <Laney> umm
[14:56] <Laney> go to #debian-cli?
[15:01] <xnox> sent bug report, pasted to #debian-cli
[15:01] <xnox> will upload into ubuntu for now, and if things are terribly broken, i'm sorry for all c# users =) but i think it's mostly harmless change anyway.
[15:01] <xnox> Laney, http://paste.debian.net/344421/ to fix https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=807915
[15:02] <Laney> you could wait like a few minutes for directhex to reply
[15:02] <Laney> it's what I did for dbus-sharp though
[15:02] <Laney> if acked you could even upload to debian...
[15:03] <xnox> sound good.
[15:03]  * xnox ponders if there is a compiler way to enforce target framework.
[15:26] <happyaron> seb128: yes I just read that in email
[15:26] <seb128> happyaron, hey! thanks ;-)
[16:10] <seb128> larsu, can you comment/reply to mterry on bug #1525156?
[16:23] <seb128> larsu, how is the nautilus menubar going btw? still working on that?
[16:34] <didrocks> argh, failures in tests after merging contributor's branch :/
[16:34] <didrocks> (large ones)
[16:34]  * didrocks fixes
[16:59]  * didrocks waves good evening! See you tomorrow guys.
[16:59] <didrocks> seb128: get better! :)
[16:59] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[16:59] <seb128> have a nice evening didrocks!
[16:59] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[17:06] <seb128> Laney, thanks for doing the ligdata update ;-)
[17:06] <Laney> np
[17:06]  * Laney warps across IRC
[18:05] <larsu> seb128: sure can do
[18:05] <seb128> larsu, danke
[18:15] <Laney> right, see you!
[18:15] <seb128> Laney, have a good evening!
[19:07] <mterry> larsu, so I commented back about geonames.  maybe IRC would be a faster dialog though
[20:48] <willcooke> g'night all