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BassemTJ-, hope too my first time on ubuntu00:00
rodd`hi, Im about to format my hdd to sell my laptop, id like to know of ways to fully wipe the hdd and prevent future attemps of recovering deleted files (by new owner), any tips?00:01
TJ-Bassem: well at last we've not messed up Windows. The only thing affecting that (and we previsouly backed up the Windows boot-strap master boot record (MBR) from sector 0 of the disk) is the GRUB bootloader, which will be the system default boot-loader, and will list Ubuntu and Windows (we hope - is os-prober now works!)00:01
daftykinsrodd`: dd zero fill, or grab the ever popular live tool CD 'DBAN'00:02
rodd`thanks daftykins00:03
BassemTJ-, its now downloading languge pack00:03
BassemTJ-, wha language pack?00:03
TJ-Bassem: for the locale you're in00:04
BassemTJ-, i dont need unnecessary language pack installed00:04
TJ-Bassem:  language-packs are translations (including the default language)00:04
BassemTJ-, it was downloading alot of packs00:04
OneM_IndustriesHey, do you know where Lubuntu questions are handled.00:05
OneM_Industries?*00:05
nicomachusOneM_Industries: you found the place. :)00:05
k1l_OneM_Industries: #lubuntu or ask here00:05
OneM_IndustriesAh, ok.00:05
OerHeksthere is no asklubuntu.com00:05
TJ-OneM_Industries: if it's LXDE specific #lubuntu may know better else try us00:05
OneM_IndustriesI found this old thing sitting around and was wondering how well/if Lubuntu would run on it: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq-presario-sr1000/specs/00:06
rodd`can I do dd zero fill from a ubuntu live cd?00:06
OerHeksOneM_Industries, maybe Xubuntu runs too, but do not expect to run youtube flawlessly with that VIA UniChrome00:07
OneM_IndustriesI was not expecting that anyway.00:07
k1l_OneM_Industries: the spces sound like a typical Lubuntu machine. but the video card is going to be a pain on all recent linux distributions00:07
daftykinsrodd`: yes00:08
OneM_IndustriesHm.00:08
OneM_IndustriesGood to know.00:08
OerHeksor mate-desktop, try it out?00:08
OneM_IndustriesI will.00:08
OneM_IndustriesIf all else fails, I have an old XP ISO somewhere.00:08
daftykinsi actually wouldn't expend the energy to move that box and plug it in00:08
daftykinssingle core is useless today imo00:08
TJ-12.04 may be OK but the later VIA unichrome drivers are unmaintained and bit-rotting last time I looked00:09
OneM_IndustriesOk.00:09
TJ-pfft, single cores are fine, depends what you want to do to them :)00:09
nicomachusOneM_Industries: I would not recommend an XP iso unless you plan to never plug it in to a network...00:09
daftykinsTJ-: true, calculators are still used ;)00:09
TJ-entire network controllers run on single-core!00:09
daftykinsOneM_Industries: yeah what you're trying to do is a crime00:10
daftykinsi ought to come and confiscate that XP disc :P00:10
OneM_IndustriesHey, we paid for it in 2002.00:12
OneM_IndustriesAnd also, I only got the main computer in our house off of XP a couple of months ago.00:13
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daftykinsyou may want to speed up in future :)00:13
c|onemanit wont get compromised if you've got a router00:13
c|onemanand dont use a browser :P00:13
daftykinsthat's utter rubbish, c|oneman00:13
daftykinsyeah and don't plug it in00:14
c|onemanhow will it get compromized behind nat?00:14
daftykinsheard of flash drives?00:14
c|onemanlol00:14
c|onemanI wasnt paying attention00:14
OneM_IndustriesIt was my parent's box.00:14
OneM_IndustriesIt was actually a nice one.00:14
c|onemanim about to setup an xp box to play vintage games. im not worried about viruses because I won't use a browser on it.00:15
k1l_there is no excuse to use or manage unsafe systems.00:15
nicomachusc|oneman: you can emulate XP without actually using XP.00:15
c|onemanno you can't.00:15
daftykinsfolks, not a Windows channel... lets take it elsewhere huh?00:15
OneM_IndustriesThey used some old embroidery software that would only run on that, so yeah. Sorry, daftykins.00:15
BassemTJ-, it still gie me blank screen for my nividia00:16
TJ-Bassem: Right, because at the moment it is using the nouveau driver. You need to install the nvidia proprietary drivers. I assume you've rebooted into the installed system?00:17
BassemTJ-, yes im on the installed system now and back again to my onboard HDMI00:18
BassemTJ-, and by the way tie windows load very well00:18
TJ-Bassem: OK, reboot it with the Nvidia GPU enabled, making sure to continue holding down the left Shift key until you see the GRUB boot manager menu00:19
TJ-Bassem: at that point, choose the "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose the first "Recovery..." option00:19
BassemTJ-, should i connect my HDMI cable to nividia?00:21
gartralhey all, i need some help with a gamepad, it's a gamestop knockoff of the xbox360 controller, i'm not using xpad as it refused to recognize the controllers' existance, xboxdrv sees it, but the axis mapping is messed up, how do i fix it?00:24
nicomachusgartral: can you use jtest-gtk?00:24
nicomachusjstest-gtk, that is00:25
Drone4four-2hey guys i'm battling a broken X server.  here is my forum thread (in lieu of a pastebin for my /var/log/Xorg.0.log): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230617300:30
gartralnicomachus: I can, but jstest shows the right mapping00:30
Drone4four-2i'm running 14.04 64bit00:30
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nicomachusgartral: you may try to get some help from the guys at #gamingonlinux. they have a lot more specialized knowledge in gettings gamepads working correctly.00:32
TJ-Drone4four-2: "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"00:32
Drone4four-2thanks TJ-00:32
Drone4four-2yeah i tried uninstalling my nvidia drivers thinking that they could have been the source of my problem00:32
Drone4four-2so do i have to set in motion an open source alternative, TJ-?00:33
TJ-Drone4four-2: and noveau open-source driver isn't loading due to the "nomodeset" kernel parameter00:33
TJ-Drone4four-2: that's reported with "(EE) [drm] KMS not enabled"00:34
TJ-Drone4four-2: KMS == Kernel Mode Settings (which nomodeset disables)00:34
Drone4four-2ah ok, TJ-,so if i remove nomodeset from Grub at boot, then nouveau should load and X should start?00:35
TJ-Drone4four-2: in *theory*, if the GPU is fully supported. However, sometimes 'nomodeset' is used due to getting black screens with nouveau. If you have local VT console I'd re-install the correct nvidia proprietary drivers00:36
BassemTJ-, im back with my nvidia connected but very low resolution on my screen00:36
TJ-Drone4four-2: run "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"00:37
Drone4four-2i can try that. i will try remove nomodeset. if that doesn't work then in a VT i'll install older nvidia drivers.  and if X still doesn't start, then my Xorg.0.log should produce different errors00:37
Drone4four-2i never knew about sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall00:37
Drone4four-2i can try that too00:37
TJ-Bassem: OK, that's fine. You could switch to a text VT console by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1", log-in, then do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" to have the correct proprietary Nvidia drivers installed00:38
BassemTJ-, say again00:40
TJ-Bassem: OK, that's fine. You could switch to a text VT console by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1", log-in, then do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" to have the correct proprietary Nvidia drivers installed00:41
BassemTJ-, and how to get out of this mod00:42
Bassemi mean ctrl+alt+f100:43
TJ-Bassem: mod? the terminal? press Alt+F7 to return to tty7, which has the GUI00:43
Bassemok00:43
ralpheeeeinstalled ubuntu core with i3wm...have three major issues....sound and brightness fn keys not working...and chrome has a lot of graphical glitches...ie only a section of page will show until i move my mouse over the areas which have a patch00:54
BassemTJ-, i did it.and now try to adjust the resolution it give me error when i open display00:55
BassemTJ-, it just needed a restart now it work fine00:58
TJ-Bassem: good, so it's looking about ready now ?00:58
BassemTJ-, what do you mean00:58
IamTryingUbuntu 15.10 - in Surface Pro the touch-pad does not work. how can i keep Windows and beside that install Ubuntu 15.10?00:59
TJ-Bassem: Ubuntu ready for you to use, no more configuration required?00:59
IamTryingasking ERASE disk and install ubuntu00:59
BassemTJ-, dont know yet thers alot of work i need to do for example i want to be able to run my visual studio project that i use on windows01:00
Bassemcan ubuntu run visual studio projects01:00
Bashing-omIamTrying: " ERASE disk and install ubuntu " is just that .. will wipe the disk ( GoodBye Windows ) and do just that .01:00
IamTryingBashing-om: no no no, i need to keep Windows on it. beside windows i need Ubuntu01:01
TJ-Bassem: Not sure, that's generally the wrong approach though. Most Linux based IDEs will be able to use autoconf and Makefile projects, but not sure about directly using VS projects01:01
Scarecr0wBassem: Naww it can't.01:01
OerHekshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/how-to-install-microsoft-visual-studio-code-in-ubuntu01:02
TJ-Bashing-om: you could try the VisualStudio Linux package though https://code.visualstudio.com/Download01:02
TJ-Bassem: you could try the VisualStudio Linux package though https://code.visualstudio.com/Download01:02
Bassemis there a way i can program in visual basic language on ubuntu01:02
OerHeks64 bit only01:03
IamTryingSurface Pro - mouse-touch-pad does not work with Ubuntu 15.1001:03
TJ-Bassem: since Balmer left MS, they've become quite friendly with Linux :)01:03
Bashing-omIamTrying: If you do not get the option " install alongside" that suggest that Windows is occupying all 4 primary partitions . show the channel what you are working with : ' df -h ; sudo parted -l ' . We can then advise  better .01:03
k1l_IamTrying: surface pro is very special hardware (made for windows). see the surface community how to get that working on a linux01:04
EliterMay I ask a Ubuntu Server software question?01:05
Bassemim trying to run mp3 file and it says to install plugin and gave me 3 options how to know the right one01:05
IamTryinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14000166/ - Bashing-om01:06
Scarecr0wBassem: I use Rhythmbox to play the mp3 files.01:07
Bashing-omIamTrying: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000166/ .01:07
BassemScarecr0w, im using it too but it need plugin and gave me 3 options which plugin should i install01:07
TJ-Bassem: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"01:07
Pablo_hello everybody01:08
Eliterhello01:08
Pablo_i wrote in terminal mkdir tweak;cd tweak and now i dont know how to remove tweak from Aspire-E1-570:~/tweak/tweak$ to be like Aspire-E1-570:~/$01:09
Pablo_please someone help01:10
TJ-Pablo_: "cd $HOME"01:10
Zhyr...01:10
k1l_!terminal | Pablo_01:11
ubottuPablo_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:11
Pablo_[03:10] <TJ->  thank you , you're the best01:11
BassemTJ-, what is the restricted extras01:11
Bashing-omIamTrying: Hummm .. I just do not know the why you are not offered the "install alongside" option. This is a GPT hard drive ( 128 partition limit) with Windows on 5 partitions. Someone with Windows experience can advise better .01:12
TJ-Bashing-om: read the description from "apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras"01:13
TJ-IamTrying: Bashing-om did the installer boot in Legacy/BIOS mode?01:13
TJ-IamTrying: what does "grep 20microsoft /var/log/syslog" report ?01:14
texla14.04.3..Can 32 bit dvds and usb pen drives be run in 64 bit system01:14
IamTryingTJ-: USB stick was booted properly from the BIOS settings of Surface pro as a result i had USB Stick boot in begin. I guess its Legacy mode.01:15
TJ-texla: Yes01:15
noflagHi all01:15
Bashing-omBassem: TJ- " Description-en: Commonly used restricted packages for Ubuntu This package depends on some commonly used packages in the Ubuntu multiverse repository."01:15
IamTryingTJ-: that log i will give you later i am following this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuYg5P4EHo01:16
noflagI'm having a bug where I can't type my disk encryption password at boot, the typing appears at the top left of the screen like a normal console01:16
TJ-IamTrying: the syslog output is vital since it will indicate what the os-prober tool did to identify/not identify a Windows install01:16
noflagI can only get in by using recovery mode then resuming boot01:16
IamTryingMy windows C has 113 GB, for Ubuntu 15.10 how much space i need to shrink?01:17
TJ-IamTrying: to check on whether the boot mode is UEFI or not do "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo 'UEFI mode'  "01:17
Bassemthanks Bashing-om01:18
TJ-IamTrying: space requirements depend on what you intend to do. The OS ought to get 8GiB, and add whatever you want for the user's storage to that01:20
Pablo_actualy i tried to instal unity tweak tool , i've installed from software center but it doesnt appear in apps and when i try to open from terminal shows me this "in order to work properly unity tweak tool recommends you install the necessary packages"01:20
IamTryingOK - thank you TJ- i will send you the logs after relogin01:20
k1l_Pablo_: open a terminal. then run "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"01:21
Pablo_pablo@pablo-Aspire-E1-570:~$ unity-tweak-tool Unable to open /home/pablo/.config/unity-tweak-tool/debug.log for writing. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/unity-tweak-tool", line 72, in <module>     UnityTweakTool.Application()   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UnityTweakTool/__init__.py", line 94, in __init__     with open(LOCKFILE, "w") as pidfile: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/pablo/.c01:23
dotpixisPablo_: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --fix-missing && sudo apt-get clean01:24
Pablo_[03:24] <dotpixis> the same thing nothing changed01:26
ProbablyAndyit looks like it can't write to your home direcoty01:26
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TJ-Pablo_: have you executed some command(s) like "chmod" or "chown" ?01:29
IamTryinghttps://youtu.be/oXuYg5P4EHo?t=286 - TJ-, Bashing-om: after doing this as shown in the video, i have a new option in Ubuntu 15.10 "Install Ubuntu alongside windows boot manager" . if i do not do that then it wont show.01:29
shadowzero26hello all01:30
leonichello i am  using ubuntu in a usb in a acer laptp aspire one01:31
IamTryingUbuntu 15.10 - on Surface pro 3 still the mouse touch-pad does not work. keyboard, touchscreen, sound, microphone is working. but front/back camera not working with Ubuntu 15.10 is it normal?01:31
wyoungleonic: That's nice01:32
Bassemcan i make the top title bar bigger01:32
leonicny keyboard is not working normaly some keys does not work have to press fn button01:32
wyoungleonic: I am using ubuntu on a few servers and laptops01:33
shadowzero26I just installed Ubuntu on my aspire onc01:33
wyoungleonic: oh and virtual machine guests01:33
wyoungleonic: That's no good.  Have you tried doing a quick google search on your laptop model key and ubuntu version?01:34
leonici did have  a couple of distros includin ppupy01:34
shadowzero26leonic:  you can remove the keys individually and clean them01:34
leonicXDDDD01:34
wyoungleonic: but yeah it could be a physcial problem or a driver issue, I am assuming you have tested under different OSs etc..?01:34
shadowzero26my dog spilled a beer on my apsire, then, the next day he spilled a cherry coke on my laptop01:35
leonici want to try it because the space keys is hard01:35
leonicstycky kesy01:35
leonici am a fool but well i rareley ue a laptop01:35
shadowzero26I took all the keys of and cleaned the space with warm water and a little soap. didnt use a lot of water01:36
shadowzero26the keys feel like they are going to break, but none did.  the f keys along the top never feel good but they work.01:38
nicomachus!ot01:40
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Bassemcan i make the top title bar bigger01:41
wyoungBassem: Probably, if not under settings then you may need to install the compiz control panel extension01:42
Zelriksudo apt-get update => Segmentation fault01:42
Zelrikalso hi01:42
nicomachusBassem: yes, with unity-tweak-tool01:42
Zelriksudo rm filename.txt => Segmentation fault01:42
TJ-Zelrik: Is that after a clean reboot?01:43
Zelrikyeah01:43
Zelrikafter I upgraded to 14.0401:43
TJ-Zelrik: then some library is corrupt, or the wrong version01:43
Zelrikhow do I fix01:44
nicomachusBassem: you can install unity-tweak-tool and then adjust font sizes, which will make your title bar larger.01:44
TJ-Zelrik: what release did the PC release-upgrade from?01:44
ZelrikI think 12.0401:44
TJ-Zelrik: was the system using any 3rd party package repositories (PPAs) ?01:44
Zelrikyeah01:45
Zelrikthey got disabled during upgrade I think01:45
TJ-Zelrik: Did any errors get reported during the release-upgrade?01:45
Zelrikyeah there were some errors01:45
Bassemcompiz control panel extension or unity-tweak-tool01:45
TJ-Zelrik: did you fix them? did you capture their text ?01:46
Zelrikno I didnt01:46
ZelrikI thought I could clean that up after upgrade01:46
TJ-Zelrik: OK, so there may be some problems due to packages not having upgraded correctly01:46
TJ-Zelrik: can you do, as a regular user, "touch /tmp/test; rm /tmp/test" without errors?01:46
ZelrikI can01:47
TJ-Zelrik: and the extact same commands prefixed with 'sudo ' seg-fault?01:47
Zelrikyes01:47
Zelrikso it s sudo that s broken01:48
Zelriksudo su is broken too01:48
TJ-Zelrik: so that tends to suggest that the dependencies of 'sudo' might be the culprit. When you do "apt-cache depends sudo" you can see those01:48
IamTryingUbuntu 15.10 - is installed in Surface pro 3 successfully. But Front and Back camera is not working like device is not found. how can i use the camera then?01:48
Zelrikoph01:48
Zelrikthere is a conflict shown01:48
Zelriksudo-ldap01:48
TJ-Zelrik: there's only 4, I'd suspect the libpam* first01:49
rahuldevHello, morning01:49
Zelriksudo-ldap is in conflict01:49
Zelrikwith itself01:49
rahuldevI've 64 GB unallocated space anyone please suggest what can I do with it?01:49
TJ-Zelrik: you can ignore the Conflicts/Replaces. Those aren't reports about the current status, they are the package declaring what it can (not) install alongside01:49
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nicomachusIamTrying: that's some experimental stuff, so it may just not work. you may not be able to use the camera with ubuntu, because the hardware isn't intended for it.01:49
nicomachusrahuldev: you can add it to one of your existing partitions or leave it unallocated.01:50
rahuldevnicomachus, in ubuntu can we create one more partition?01:51
TJ-Zelrik: I think we need to try to capture the cause of the seg-fault. I wonder if you can use the debugger to do that01:51
IamTryingnicomachus: mouse touch pad also does not work. now the touch-screen also not working01:52
TJ-Zelrik: "gdb --args sudo echo test"01:52
TJ-Zelrik: then at the gdb> shell prompt type "run"01:52
srgHow can I make a UEFI-bootable USB stick of Ubuntu 15.10? Do I format the USB stick as GPT with one partition as FAT32, then extract the .iso file on to the partition?01:52
TJ-Zelrik: when/if sudo segfaults pastebin the results of doing "bt full"01:52
nicomachusIamTrying: looks like there are some patches created by users that you may try. See here: https://github.com/matthewwardrop/linux-surfacepro301:53
TJ-srg: The ISOs are UEFI bootable01:53
Bassemcan i adjust the search your computer and online sources to just search my computer01:53
nicomachusrahuldev: yes you can have more than partition...01:53
Zelrikeffective uid is not 001:53
srgTJ-: So, is that the right way to do it? Make a FAT32 GPT partition and copy the ISO files there?01:53
TJ-srg: otherwise, simply copy /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI"01:53
nicomachusBassem: you can disable online sources in System Settings --> Security & Privacy01:54
TJ-srg: no, just write the ISO directly to the raw USB device01:54
srgoh, so dd it?01:54
TJ-srg: Correct :D01:54
srgThanks!01:54
Zelrik, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an nfs file system without root privileges?01:54
srgI think I was over complicating it01:54
Zelrik"01:54
TJ-srg: nice to find someone that knows dd and likes it :)01:54
TJ-Zelrik: Oh, nice report!01:54
srgTJ-: I've been a linux user for years, but I'm very new to UEFI01:55
nicomachuswe all are. :/01:55
IamTryingOK - thank you nicomachus01:55
TJ-Zelrik: that suggests "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" will show the file doesn't have its 's' bit set, can you show us what that command shows?01:55
TJ-srg: UEFI is wonderful :)01:55
nicomachusthat's just, like, you're opinion, man ^01:56
TJ-srg: no more playing whack-a-mole with multiple OS boot-loaders on the same device01:56
Zelrikdamn I wish I could paste it01:56
Zelrikit on my other computer01:56
Zelrikhold on01:56
nicomachuslanguage, Zelrik01:56
TJ-nicomachus: no, statement of fact. OSs now can co-exist without replacing each other's files01:57
TJ-Zelrik: just type the permissions of the file01:57
Zelrik-rwsr-xr-x01:57
TJ-Zelrik: and I see "-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 155008 Mar 12  2015 /usr/bin/sudo"01:57
TJ-Zelrik: so next lets check the mount options of the root file-system: "grep ' / ' /proc/mounts "01:58
Bassemcompiz control panel extension or unity-tweak-tool to customize title bar size01:58
sjjenniI have a working postfix system, mail works fine, I want to change to virtual aliases, so I changed the mydestination line in main.cf NOT to include the virtual domains, added virtual_alias_domains and vitrual_alias_maps, in that file.   CReated /etc/postix/virtual ran newalias and postmap, restarted postfix.  Mail fails to these domains, log say: user unknown in virtual alias table, what have I missed?01:59
ZelrikI get /dev/disk/by-uuid/<some uuid>  /ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 001:59
TJ-Zelrik: you'd expect to see something similar to this: "/dev/dm-1 / ext4 rw,relatime,discard,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0"01:59
TJ-Zelrik: OK, so that warning you got looks like a false hint, we have to dig deeper02:00
Zelrikand the line above rootfs / rootfs rw 0 002:00
TJ-Zelrik: give me a few minutes, I'll read the sudo source code see what causes it to throw out that hint02:00
rahuldevhi what could be the difference between "sudo apt upgrade" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?02:01
zykotick9rahuldev: the outcome should be the same.  apt is just a newer program...02:02
zykotick9rahuldev: actually sorry, there _is_ a difference.  ".. apt upgrade" will update MORE then "apt-get upgrade"02:02
rahuldevzykotick9, thanks!02:03
MannyLNJHelp please. What is the correct command line to use ddrescue to copy a failing drive that is under /media/ubuntu/OS to /media/ubuntu/dave02:03
zykotick9rahuldev: "apt upgrade" is _closer_ to "apt-get dist-upgrade"02:04
TJ-Zelrik: did you install something like the Yubikey PAM modules?02:04
ZelrikTJ not sure02:04
PMTAnybody around with kdump familiarity who wants to help?02:04
Zelrikdoesnt ring a bell02:04
PMTHi all, I'm trying to get a kernel dump on Ubuntu 15.10 amd64, I have crashdumprecipe configured correctly, if I do a c > /proc/sysrq-trigger I get a nice dump in /var/crash, but when the actual panic that I'm trying to diagnose happens, I'm getting files full of 0x00 in /var/crash. Do I need to tell the crash kernel "no, really, make sure it flushes to disk before you reboot" somehow?02:04
TJ-Zelrik: the reason I ask is someone else reports the same issue, and its down to additional PAM modules (might not be just YUBI):  http://askubuntu.com/questions/501538/how-to-check-if-fstab-file-is-correct-without-sudo02:05
TJ-Zelrik: do you see "YubiKey for ..." when invoking 'sudo' ?02:06
Zelrikno I dont02:06
MannyLNJHelp please. What is the correct command line to use ddrescue to copy a failing drive that is under /media/ubuntu/OS to /media/ubuntu/dave02:06
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Guest8707how in the handwriting recognition in Ubuntu?02:09
christia1.02:10
TJ-Zelrik: OK, so you must have some other customised PAM modules installed from a 3rd party repository under 12.04 which are not compatible with 14.0402:12
istoksomething strange, in my neighbourhood, with the ubuntu and some VLC02:13
Zelrikok02:13
istokanyone else every have any issue with 14.04.5 and terminal window, while VLC is running?02:14
JeDamp02:14
istokit seems to open fine, without VLC, but when I'm watching something, the terminal will open at randomised x/y02:14
JeDano*02:14
Guest8707does Ubuntu have handwriting recognition?02:14
istokby fine, I mean in the same place as I left it, when I closed02:14
nicomachusGuest8707: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lucid/tegaki-recognize/02:15
TJ-Zelrik: so you need to identify the possible sources of such modules via the now-disabled 12.04 apt repositories, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/02:15
TJ-Zelrik: once you've identified the possible sources you'll have to find out what exact package-names would have been installed from those, and then check on the system if they are, in fact, installed. If so, then those would be the first to investigate by removing them02:17
ZelrikI see tor, some custom fonts and bitcoin stuff02:17
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Guest8707the handwriting recognition on Windows 10 iS sweet02:18
istokvery weird. I've search google, there doesn't appear to be any bug/complaints regarding terminal+VLC and it messing with position and I can't find any other package (visual/audio) that causes the same issue02:18
leonichow can i changue where ubuntu save the current system02:18
TJ-Zelrik: I'm not sure how else you can identify additions, unless the package added its own file under /etc/pam.d/ and you can recognise it by name02:18
leonici mean i am in a borroed laptop but i have no space02:18
Guest8707this is from my chicken scratch02:19
mdxxxis there a lubuntu channel on freenet?02:19
Zelriknot sure why I have a bunch of multiverse repos uncommented02:19
bleachHumm, lost my connection...02:19
TJ-Zelrik: maybe if you compare the files list of /etc/pam.d/ from my 14.04 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000655/02:19
nicomachusmdxxx: there is at #lubuntu, but you can also ask here02:19
bleachLooking for an answer to a really strange eth0 behaviour question.  2 of my systems periodically loose the DHCP assigned ipv4 address.02:20
ZelrikI have gdm in addition to lightdm02:20
TJ-bleach: are those systems using Network Manager to control the lease via its private dhclient instance?02:21
bleachTj;  No, its just straight DHCP from the router.02:21
TJ-Zelrik: OK, I doubt 'gdm' would be an issue. its possible there's been a change in the text of one of those files to call on some other module. Can you see which file(s) were most recently changed by their timestamps? Those would be the ones I'd look inside, firstly02:22
Zelrikits  the only difference I have02:22
TJ-bleach: so the PCs are not using Network Manager? They're using /etc/network/interfaces manually defined?02:22
Zelrikgdm is the new stuff02:23
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Zelrikgdm-launch-environment and gdm-password02:24
Zelrikboth are from today02:24
bleachTj;  Looks like I might be confusing what you are asking me.  I do not have them set for static ip and indeed I have not done anything to the network configuration since installation.  That is it is the same setup that was created by the installers.02:24
TJ-bleach: OK, that means Network Manager service is responsible. That's good, because it does a lot of verbose logging in /var/log/syslog. NM uses a private instance of 'dhclient' to contact the DHCP server, obtain and manage a lease, so I'd look in syslog at the dhclient specific parts, especially when the lease is not renewed, for clues02:27
bleachTj;  I have been around the UNIX/Linux world since before Slackware 0.9 and have never seen an interface 'forget' its assigned address on any machine before and now I have 2 different one doing the same thing!02:27
bleachOK Thanks Tj, I go take a look now since it just did it again about a half an hour ago!02:28
TJ-bleach: check if the private dhclient instances are still running with "ps -efly | grep dhclient" - you'd expect to see something with paths that prominently include "NetworkManager" paths under /var/02:29
PMTJust filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexec-tools/+bug/1525746 about the issue, let's see whether I or someone on launchpad figures it out first.02:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1525746 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "kdump results in correct-sized sparse files" [Undecided,New]02:30
TJ-bleach: here's an example of what to expect from my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000725/02:30
ZelrikTJ-, is there a way to disable gdm PAMs?02:30
TJ-Zelrik: move the file out of /etc/pam.d/ temporarily02:31
Zelrikpermission denied02:32
TJ-Zelrik: of course - you need sudo :D02:32
Zelrikif I need sudo to fix sudo, I wont make much progress02:33
Zelriklol02:33
TJ-Zelrik: you'd be best rebooting into Recovery mode, getting a 'root' shell, remounting the root file-system read-write, and doing it02:33
TJ-Zelrik: even as 'root' you can call sudo, so you may be able to reproduce the issue but not be limited in trying to fix it since you're already 'root'02:33
TJ-bleach: a better example of DHCP lease renewal including IPv4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000742/02:34
popnflosswhat would be better for an external drive for movies,tvshows,etc.02:36
popnflossxfs or ext402:36
bleachTj; http://paste.ubuntu.com ?02:37
ignis-fatuusNeed help with hanging sys at reboot/shutdown --> here a pick of what I get after two minutes of a black screen with a blinking cursor: http://i.imgur.com/KI7oaqy.jpg02:39
Zelrikhmm02:40
ZelrikI am logged as root02:40
ZelrikI tried an apt-get install -f02:40
ZelrikI get a conflict between libpam-smbpass and samba-libs02:41
SeriouslyLaughkernel panic, Zelrik02:42
TJ-Zelrik: good catch02:42
Drone4four__hey TJ-, i tried installing the latest nvidia drivers and i also tried booting w/o nomodeset and x still won't start.  new Xorg.0.log file in full can be found in my forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306173&p=1340638002:42
Zelriknot sure how to fix that conflict02:43
TJ-Drone4four__: that indicates there's a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - can you pastebin that file. It is very possible that file is not required so you could move it to a back-up name and restart the DM session with "service lightdm restart"02:45
Mdxxx 02:45
TJ-Zelrik: identify the installed package versions: "apt-cache policy libpam-smbpasswd samba-libs"02:46
Drone4four__yeah when x still didn't start, i tried: nvidia-xconfig which created an xorg.conf  . i prolly should have mentioned this in my forum post . i'll pastebin that file right now02:47
dimitry7hi02:47
tweety5what's the main philosophical diff btw ubuntu and debian?02:47
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Drone4four__TJ-, i just checked /etc/X11/ and there is no xorg.conf file present02:49
ZelrikTJ it looks like libpam-smbpass is installed02:49
Zelrikbut I cant uninstall it02:50
Drone4four__this is on my mounted / partition (not my live usb)02:50
TJ-Drone4four__: that is strange, the log wouldn't have "[   113.495] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" " uunless it is found02:51
regeditso02:51
* regedit glares accusingly at everyone02:51
regeditwho removed nvidia drivers > 352 from wily repos02:52
TJ-Drone4four__: the only thing in that log I wonder about is you've still not "nomodeset" on the kernel command-line, although as the nvidia driver doesn't report any issues it may not be relevant. It looks more likely a user profile issue now02:52
Drone4four__TJ-,  ah ok ...what does a user profile issue mean?02:53
regeditvivid had nvidia 355 and 358 already, what does it take for wily to get those too?02:53
TJ-Drone4four__: it could be the driver is working correctly, but the user login session is failing, what exactly happens when the system boots?02:53
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TJ-Drone4four__: I'd expect you to see the greeter for log-in, enter password, see it flicker as it tries to switch to the user session... sometimes that fails and it returns to the greeter02:54
Drone4four__TJ-, when it boots, it doesn't reach gdm. it just exits to a VT. i enter my username and pass and i'm in a shell. no gui .  i enter, startzx and its just a black screen. i switch to VT 1 and do a Ctrl + C and there is a X11 traceback02:55
Drone4four__startx*02:55
TJ-regedit: no, vivid has the same02:56
regeditTJ-: not in my Driver Manager apparently02:56
regeditTJ-: am i on the wrong repos?02:56
TJ-Drone4four__: don't do 'startx' do "service lightdm start"02:56
TJ-regedit: you tell me :D02:56
Zelrikyay02:56
ZelrikI fixed sudo02:56
regeditTJ-: how should i know? :D i recently upgraded from 15.04 to 15.1002:56
TJ-Drone4four__: or 'service start gdm' if you've replaced with that02:56
TJ-Zelrik: Well done!02:57
Drone4four__i don't use lightdm . i use gdm.  so should i try, service gdm start?02:57
Drone4four__ok yes02:57
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Drone4four__i'll try that and brb02:57
Drone4four__thanks TJ-02:57
ZelrikTJ, I did sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-resinstreq libpam-smbpass02:57
ZelrikI mean without sudo02:58
Zelrikthen apt-get install -f02:58
TJ-Zelrik: OK, so it was libpam-smbpass02:58
Zelrikand fixed some minor stuff02:58
TJ-Zelrik: good, amazing sometimes how something so seemingly minor can cause such large problems02:58
Zelrikyeah02:59
regeditTJ-: here's my apt-cache policy http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000900/ anything wrong or missing?02:59
ZelrikI didnt expect to go that deep tonight02:59
ZelrikI like to take it easy on sunday nights usually03:00
RoadRunnerneed advice with choosing a distro03:00
TJ-regedit: nvidia-352 is the latest in the archives for 15.04 and 15.10, so if you had a later release it came from a PPA or other 3rd party. Did the release-upgrade disable the ubuntu gpu-drivers PPA by chance?03:00
regeditTJ-: ah maybe it did, i do remember seeing some sort of message about 3rd party repos being turned off03:01
regeditTJ-: where can i view all these 3rd party / PPAs that may have been turned off?03:01
TJ-regedit: right, check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and you'll need to rename the file from .list.save to just .list, and edit the file internals replacing 'vivid' with 'wily'03:02
bleachTj;  what version and flavor are you running?03:02
regeditTJ-: ok, i shall blindly do so :)03:02
TJ-regedit: it should be, if I am guessing correctly, the 'graphics-drivers.list'03:03
TJ-bleach: 15.10 amd6403:03
bleachTj; Unity?03:03
GerowenAny idea why Ubuntu Gnome goes to sleep as soon as it's done booting up?03:04
TJ-bleach: No, KDE, XFCE or LXDE03:04
regeditTJ-: awesome ok. Who is that ppa BTW? i thought i removed the xorg-edgers repo because i thought 355 (and even 358?) went into the official mainline or something?03:04
TJ-regedit: xorg-edgers was the one that publishes the nightly stack which would break03:04
bleachTj;  Humm, I'm running XFCE and my log does not look much like yours.03:04
TJ-regedit: I'm pretty sure I recall getting you to switch to the graphics-drivers PPA, at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa03:05
regeditTJ-: right, and at some point i thought someone said that they were merged into mainline ubuntu release packages?...03:05
regeditahh ok03:05
regeditso that's not the official ubuntu packages then?03:05
TJ-bleach: did you manually configure the networking ?03:05
bleachTj;  I do have the bound reponse message.  No I did not but maybe I should as that has always worked on previous releases.03:06
TJ-regedit: the graphics-drivers is semi-official, in that is there specifically to provide the latest proprietary packages only03:06
regeditTJ-: gotcha, thanks03:06
TJ-bleach: NM relies on dhclient; if dhclient isn't obtaining a renewal then something is wrong there03:06
bleachTj;  Let me do some checking...03:06
GerowenNvm, I figured out why it goes to sleep as soon as it starts up, I have a laptop closed up and connected to an external monitor.  It was sleeping because the lid was closed.  Options changed, :-)03:07
bleachTJ;  Also, if ignis-fatuus comes back while I'm away let him know I'll be right back, OK?03:07
TJ-bleach: OK, although its likely I'm going to bed :)03:07
bleachTj;  AH!  Where are you?03:08
TJ-bleach: England. it's 03:0803:08
bleachNighty Night!  and thanks103:09
regedityo TJ- bro, we need you back!03:10
regedit:p03:11
regeditoh he left for the night03:11
regeditoh well03:11
regeditcan anyone guide me how does it work after release upgrade to update all custom apt repositories to appropriate new ones?03:12
MannyLNJHello. I'm using a Ubuntu live USB stick and need to copy files from /dev/sda3 which is a failing NTFS drive to the partiton mounted at /media/ubuntu/65E6E7A8706B60B5 which I think is /dev/sdb203:12
ZelrikI have more issues TJ03:15
ZelrikI can't boot ubuntu anymore03:15
Zelrikonly in recovery mode03:15
regeditZelrik: looks like he logged off for the night03:16
regeditour savior and leader03:16
regedit:P03:16
regeditZelrik: when boot fails, you usually need to bootup ubuntu from a USB stick, install and run the "boot-repair" tool03:17
regeditthere could be other good things you can do from recovery tho03:17
regeditZelrik: for example i believe there's an option there to fix/update grub, try that03:18
regeditas well as fix packages and stuff03:18
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ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: if you run "df -H" in terminal, it'll show you whats mounted where and how much space it has, should help you confirm03:19
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MannyLNJProbablyAndy, the failing dive is NOT showing as mounted and the good drive is /deb/sdb2 according to that command03:20
ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: have you tried to mount it?  I should think that would be done automatically.03:21
MannyLNJProbablyAndy, Wont mount I get a failed to write lock message03:21
ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: i think your best bet is ddrescue,03:23
ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: https://www.technibble.com/guide-using-ddrescue-recover-data/03:24
MannyLNJProbablyAndy, you are Probaly correct and I read that URL during one of my many google searches and it confuses me to no end03:24
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ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: basically the idea is that ddrescue dumps all the data off the drive and onto a good one, without mounting it.  Then you can use other tools to sift through the data and hopefully recover something.03:25
Drone4fourdid TJ- leave?03:27
regedit_Drone4four: yup03:28
Drone4fourthanks regedit_03:28
RoadRunnerhow is ubuntu better than debian?03:32
artoisRoadRunner: it isn't03:33
gambl0reanyone here have experience installing node/npm using nvm?03:33
artoisgambl0re: nvm is a name of a thing? Heh03:34
gambl0re?03:34
ProbablyAndyRoadRunner: "better" probably isn't the right word.  Different maybe.  If you want shiny new stuff, then ubuntu is probably ok.  If you want something stable, then debian.03:35
Drone4fouri recently updated my kernel (with regular repos, no third party ones) and I also recently updated my nvidia drivers . I was also playing with plymouth.  Now gdm and lightdm won't start. Booting takes me to a VT. I get this traceback when I attempt to run, $ service gdm start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001064/  dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001029/ Xorg.0.log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001111/03:35
RoadRunnerartois: then why did someone expend the effort to create it rather than continuing with debian?03:35
artoisUbuntu doesn't really have newer things than Debian; incredibly common misconception03:35
artoisRoadRunner: well, I imagine someone wanted to get paid; Canonical is a for-profit company03:35
artoisit could've been ideological, though <shrug>03:36
ProbablyAndyubuntu isn't more bleeding edge than debian?03:36
inteus!ot03:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:36
ProbablyAndyright, that.03:36
artoisProbablyAndy: it can't be, it's sourced from Debian03:37
HitechcgUbuntu is buggy, for one03:38
RoadRunnerProbablyAndy: artois: ok, guys bfr we get in trouble lets continue in ubuntu-offtopic (although I don't think my question is off topic...)03:38
HitechcgGood idea03:39
Hitechcg#ubuntu = everyone thinks everything is off-topic, #ubuntu-offtopic = half the time not even about Ubuntu03:40
artoisRoadRunner: don't let the people who want to be ops for reasons unknown bother you =P03:40
MannyLNJProbablyAndy, I found a reprint of that guide with working images. It's running now03:40
ProbablyAndyMannyLNJ: good luck.  always a little hair raising to have to do that kind stuff.  Backups!03:41
transhuman__hi can anyone recommend a gui for a firewall on ubuntu I dont like gufw its too basic and is missing features, or at least they dont seem to work (namely denying a certain ip to all ports (ranges dont seem to take)03:41
transhuman__never mind found a better one03:43
GerowenAnybody know why my desktops in Gnome are jacked up?  I only have one, and when I try to move windows onto a new one, nothing happens, everything is stuck on this one desktop.03:50
tlttranshuman__, or make arbitrary rows through gufw and edit them manually03:50
badbodhGerowen, open gnome-tweak-tool and check if you disabled dynamic desktop by accident03:51
GerowenNope03:52
django_hey all03:53
Gerowenbadbodh: Soon as gtk-recordmydesktop finishes installing I'll show you what's happening.03:53
django_is ubuntu good at predicting the battery life?03:53
badbodhok03:53
badbodhdjango_, please state your specific problem.03:53
django_badbodh, i forgot my laptop charger for the night and i wanna know how much time i have left :/03:54
Hitechcgdjango_: In my opinion, it's okay, but tends to estimate a bit high03:54
django_:/03:54
django_it says 3hr 43 min03:54
kadirohello, can any one tell me where to found official application for vdr-sc pluging and vdr-plugin-dvbapi ?03:54
HitechcgWhat are you planning to do on it and for how long?03:55
kadirome?03:55
badbodhdjango_, time varies depending on what apps you are running03:55
kadiro\o badbodh03:55
django_true03:56
Hitechcgkadiro: no, django_03:56
badbodhrun a flashplayer hd video and 3hr 43min ends inside an hour :D03:56
badbodhkadiro, what's vdr ?03:56
kadirobadbodh: video disk recorder03:57
Gerowenbadbodh: The option "Workspaces only on primary display" was enabled.  When I disabled it, the issue fixed itself.03:57
badbodhGerowen, ah03:57
Gerowenbadbodh: I guess when it's enabled, it sees each monitor as a workspace, and since I only have one monitor, that's what was going on.03:57
badbodhforget about it, 'gnome-shell is a bug'.03:58
badbodhkadiro, https://github.com/manio/vdr-plugin-dvbapi04:00
kadirobadbodh: thank you, i hop this time it work XD04:00
kadiroah no it is from source04:01
badbodhyes. chop chop...04:01
badbodhmake a .deb out of it04:01
kadiroi already compiled it from that source and got incompatibility04:01
badbodhkadiro, do you ever bloody google ? https://launchpad.net/~aap/+archive/ubuntu/vdr04:03
badbodhand get your tushy to mint channels, i know you're not on ubuntu :/04:03
carreraGreetings!  :-)04:04
carreraI finally installed Ubuntu MATE 15.10 on my new Asus G751 laptop04:04
badbodhyay! good job04:04
kadirobadbodh: that link is ppa, tested already, not stable, crashing in first place04:04
carrerabadbodh, thanks dude04:04
kadiroi want an official one04:04
carrerabut I have a problem04:04
badbodhcarrera, go on04:05
carreraI can login at tty1,  I can ssh in but I can not login at the light-dm prompt04:05
carrerait says, "Failed to start session"04:05
badbodhtweak lightdm's conf to enable ssh04:05
kadirobadbodh: i tryed many channel of linux, no one have clue about vdr :/04:06
badbodh/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf i guess , or look in /usr/share/lightdm...04:06
carreraI Googled but I found 2 solutions, namely installing or reinstalling ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-session04:06
kadirobadbodh: thank you anyway :D i will test in mint if any one have little info about that XD04:07
carrerabadbodh, no lightdm.conf04:08
carreraonly lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf04:08
badbodhcarrera, you meant ssh login right? or the normal local user-account login ?04:08
carrerayes sir04:08
carreraboth04:08
carreraI can login from both04:08
carreraI used Netinstall and ticked ssh server during the install04:08
badbodh"Failed to start session" <--- which session ?04:10
carreragui session04:10
carreratty704:10
badbodhunity ?04:11
carreraMATE04:11
carrerawait a sec04:11
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badbodhoh forgot :P ok. log into your local account using tty, your home directory should have something like .xsession-errors04:12
carreraI have lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu-mate.conf on my old laptop, also running Ubuntu MATE 15.1004:12
carrerabut that file is not on the new laptop04:12
badbodhrun "cat ~/.xsession-errors|pastebinit " and gimme the link04:13
badbodhrun 'ls -a|grep error' to check the exact file name, dunno if it's .xsession-- or .Xsession-- , i forget04:14
carrerarun it as me or root?04:14
badbodhno root. your regular account04:15
carreraok04:15
carrerals -a | grep error   returned nothing04:15
carrerals -a does not show either file04:16
carrerathis is all I have:04:17
carrera.   .bash_history  .bashrc  .dmrc     .sudo_as_admin_successful04:17
carrera..  .bash_logout   .cache   .profile04:17
nicomachus!paste | carrera04:18
ubottucarrera: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:18
badbodhfirst gotta figure out if lightdm's fault or mate's , install another dm and see if you get "Failed to start session" again04:18
carreranicomachus, ok, thanks04:19
carrerabadbodh, should I reinstall ubuntu-mate-desktop?04:19
Bashing-omcarrera: In your /home directoy " ls -al .xsession-errors >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 537 May 22  2013 .xsession-errors " should return similar .04:19
badbodhthat's just a meta-package, re-installing that won't do04:19
carrerahttp://sourcedigit.com/16407-how-to-fix-failed-to-start-session-at-ubuntu-login/04:20
carreraI don't even have a lightdm.conf file04:21
badbodhcarrera, no harm in doing that. reinstall what he says then04:21
Dylan____ Hello guys my macbook pro once again has encounted a blackscreen04:23
Dylan____I caught a glimpse and it said about the neavou driver04:23
Dylan____Anyone help?04:23
SeriouslyLaugh!rescue | Dylan____04:24
ubottuDylan____: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode04:24
Dylan____Never mind it just worked04:24
SeriouslyLaughwoot04:24
Dylan____Must have been some glitch04:24
Dylan____Idk04:24
nicomachusrescued.04:24
RoadRunnerchanged res on the monitor and now can't boot into ubuntu's/lubuntu's gui; if boot from a USB stick, where would I find the monitor config file to change the res back?04:24
dotpixisthis is a stupid question; but how do i get ibus daemon to autostart when i boot?04:25
Dylan____Guys i encounted system problem:/04:25
carrerabadbodh, cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log --> Seat seat0: Can't find session 'ubuntu'04:25
carrerabut my session should be ubuntu-mate04:25
dotpixisDylan____: what's the problem?04:25
Dylan____Omg04:25
Dylan____Well i just got system problem04:26
Dylan____And it was with the xorg04:26
badbodhcarrera, ok now i get it. you installed unity greeter.04:26
dotpixisx needs to die04:26
badbodhshould have used gtk greeter04:26
nicomachusit's on the way out, dotpixis04:26
carrerabadbodh, I should probably change user-session to ubuntu-mate but lightdm.conf does not exist on either of my systems04:26
dotpixisgood04:26
nicomachusDylan____: gonna need more info about that "system problem"04:26
Dylan____And it has stuff about xserver-xorg-core problem type crash  it says k have some obsolete package installed04:27
Dylan____Well how do i give u more info when i cant pastebin it?04:27
badbodhcarrera, install 'apt-file' , then run 'apt-file list <package name>|pastebinit" , <package name> = your lightdm packages04:27
badbodhthere has to be a conf somewhere :)04:27
happyfacehi, can anyone help me uninstall lubuntu-desktop? I went through lots of forums. Still nothing04:28
Dylan____Sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop04:28
Dylan____:)04:28
happyfaceThat didnt work04:28
Dylan____Really?04:28
Dylan____Thats strange04:28
happyfacei still have lubuntu environment04:29
SeriouslyLaughhappyface make sure you reboot, and log into whatever desktop you prefer. then run sudo apt-get autoremove04:29
Dylan____U should be able to uninstall lubuntu with thst04:29
badbodhhappyface, it's a metapackage. "apt-cache info lubuntu-desktop" to see all dependencies and remove each one of them04:29
Dylan____Nvm04:29
Dylan____Let the experts take it04:29
happyfaceok04:29
carrerabadbodh:  root      1063     1  0 07:54 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm04:30
happyfaceI will do that , SeriouslyLaugh, badbodh.04:30
Dylan____How lightweight can xubuntu get?04:30
pyoorHi all.  I'm having an issue updating my icon theme.  I've changed the theme in Unity Tweak and it works for almost everything, but the icons in my launcher won't update04:30
pyoorany idea why?04:30
Dylan____Cause when i looked into ubuntu like last year and cause im running a 2010 7,1 macbook im had trouble deciding what distro to go04:30
badbodhcarrera, i need the whole list of files installed. gimme pastebinit link, you can type it here04:31
Dylan____But i went with xubuntu and i wanna make it so lighteeight04:31
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nicomachuspyoor: did you try to reboot?04:31
pyoornicomachus: yes.  I've had this issue before and logging in/out or a reboot would usually solve it04:32
pyoorthis time however, it won't04:32
carrerabadbodh, ok04:33
carrerabadbodh, when I restart, it says starting lightdm04:33
happyfacebadbodh: It says invalid operation info04:35
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: It didnt work04:35
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badbodhhappyface, sorry not 'info' , it's 'show' :)04:35
j1nx_anyone here know if there are Razor keyboard/mouse drivers for ubuntu?04:35
badbodhcarrera, i'll need a list of all files lightdm (and other lightdm-related packages) have installed on your system. i'm not on ubuntu so can;t say exactly which file to edit.04:37
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: badbodh: is there anyway i can get my terminal back. After i installed lxde, terminal is full black. I cant see anything04:38
badbodhyou did net-install you say, you should be remembering package names. gimme results of "apt-file list <package name>|pastebinit" , if you don;t have 'pastebinit' and 'apt-file' installed please do so. very handy tools.04:38
badbodhgimme all lightdm and related package's (greeters) file list ^ by that method04:39
SeriouslyLaughi'm sure there's a config file for the terminal somewhere. not really sure.04:39
badbodhhappyface, what terminal are you using ?04:39
kadiro.bashrc04:39
badbodhkadiro, nope!04:40
kadiroyes04:40
happyfacethe default one. badbodh.04:40
pmaxk~/bashrc in ubuntu04:40
kadiro:))04:40
happyfacebadbodh: Now whenever i want to type a command i go to tty104:41
badbodhhappyface, which ubuntu flavour are you on? each uses a diff terminal by default04:41
happyfaceubuntu 14.04 badbodh04:41
badbodhunity?04:42
carrerabadbodh, apt-file is updating04:42
zykotick9happyface: doesn't lxde's terminal have a menu for settings?  if not look, see if you have a ~/.Xresources and perhaps move it to .Xresource.back (it's NOT ~/.bashrc)04:42
happyfacebadbodh: I want pure unity back. Now it is mixed with lxde buttons and display04:42
badbodhmaybe you should do a fresh install and stick to a single desktop environment for now. learn stuff, find your way around ubuntu.04:43
badbodhrunning multiple desktops is a dirty business, hard to remove and tricky to share configs between two DE-s04:44
SeriouslyLaughcan't he just log out and log back into a unity session?04:44
badbodhif you want lxde , use lubuntu04:44
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: badbodh: I dont want lxde anymore, i want plane old ubuntu with my files and my programs04:45
SeriouslyLaughhappyface i think you can log out, and before typing your passord before logging in again, pick a different session04:46
kadiroo.o04:46
happyfacezykotick9: I didnt understand.04:46
badbodhhappyface, best bet, create a new user account and migrate your files to new account's home folder04:46
pmaxkhappyface, old ubuntu ith unity?04:46
badbodhjust don;t copy the hidden (starts with .dot) files04:46
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: Yeah i can do that. But my unity is compromised. It has weird display after i installed lubuntu-desktop04:46
happyfacepmaxk: I mean the inbuilt one04:47
happyfacepmaxk: 14.0404:47
carrerabadbodh, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001538/04:47
SeriouslyLaughhappyface you can probably drop into a shell and reinstall Unity04:47
SeriouslyLaughand purge the other DE04:48
pmaxkhappyface, http://askubuntu.com/questions/453841/how-to-remove-lubuntu-desktop-from-ubuntu-14-04-lts04:48
kadiroany official vdr channel in freenode server?04:48
badbodhcarrera, two files worth looking at. /etc/init/lightdm.conf and /etc/lightdm/users.conf , run "cat <file>|pastebinit"04:49
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh:  How do i do that?04:50
happyfacepmaxk: tried it already. Did not work.04:50
SeriouslyLaughhappyface ctrl+alt+f3 to drop into a shell. then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:50
SeriouslyLaughhappyface define did not work -- did you get errors?04:51
badbodhhappyface, scroll down in pmaxk's link, read the "dirty" reply with lots of info. that's how tedious it is to remove a metapackage :)04:51
SeriouslyLaughmight be easier to nuke and pave04:51
pmaxkyes ,you have metapakages,that is your problem04:52
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: when i entered whereis lxde, it gave the output lxde:04:53
happyfaceSeriouslyLaugh: when i entered whereis lxde, it gave the output as "lxde: "04:53
regeditis there a graphical tool that manages /usr/share/autostart/ ?04:53
SeriouslyLaughhappyface i've not done this so i can't really offer much help aside from googling possible solutions for you04:53
badbodhcarrera, also /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_ubuntu.conf , these four files have all the stuff i need. cat them with |pastebinit04:54
badbodhregedit, nope. only ~/.config/autostart has gui management tools04:55
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001604/04:56
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001607/04:57
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001610/04:57
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001618/04:58
badbodhcarrera, clean. now more files :05:01
badbodhlightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-greeter-wrapper.conf05:01
badbodhlightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-guest-wrapper.conf05:01
badbodhlightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf05:01
regeditbadbodh: I have Kubuntu, what could have possible placed "kmix_autostart.desktop" and "restore_kmix_volumes.desktop" in /usr/share/autostart? i want this annoying window to not be present upon startup05:01
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001656/05:01
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001660/05:02
badbodhregedit, use "apt-file search ****.desktop" to find out05:02
carrerabadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001663/05:02
regeditbadbodh: command not found?05:03
badbodhregedit, install 'apt-file' first05:03
regeditbadbodh: thanks!05:06
badbodhcarrera, you have an awful lot of greeters installed. and i can;t even find the conf file that declares which greeter you are using. i hate ubuntu :P05:07
carrerabadbodh, damn05:08
carrerabadbodh, I compared the last 3 greeter files to my working laptop, also runing 15.10 and they were all the same05:08
badbodhcarrera, wise thing will be installing from a regular ubuntu-mate iso, and compare the files i mentioned above.05:08
carrerabadbodh, I can't.  The bloody nouveau driver crashes the installation05:09
carrerabadbodh, also I need to do a Netinstall, cause Ubuntu stopped including dmraid in their desktop cds since 12.0405:10
carrerabadbodh, I dunno why they don't put dmraid and proper nvidia drivers in their desktop CDs, cause the size is already above 1.1 GB, so we need a DVD to burn it on anyway05:11
badbodhcarrera, i saw kde mythbuntu and some other greeter packages. did you install those manually or got autoinstalled ?05:12
carrerabadbodh, I reinstalled lightdm before I sent patebin the contents and, obviously, that didn't help either05:12
carrerabadbodh, auto, this is a totally fresh install, expect apt-file and pastebinit05:12
badbodhcarrera, ok whatever greeter you;re on,any way to choose a session ? a button or something05:13
badbodhwhat sessions are available ?05:14
carrerabadbodh, I just tried logging in with the Guest Session to no avail05:14
carrerabadbodh, Mine, Session, and Other05:14
badbodhthat's guest account. by session i mean desktop environment. like are you logging into mate, unity or what ?05:14
carrerabadbodh, just MATE05:14
badbodhanything other than mate available at login screen ?05:15
carrerabadbodh, there is a setting wheel botton on the top right of the screen but it does not open anything!05:15
carrerabadbodh, nope, I only installed MATE05:15
carrerabadbodh, same as my older laptop05:16
badbodhbut does your login screen let you "select mate" ?05:16
carrerabadbodh, could some sort of meta key be on?05:16
badbodhno keys, only clickety click needed.05:17
pmaxkcarrera, go to cd /usr/share/xsessions , and see what you have05:17
adun153Hello everyone, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 on an MSI 6QD Apache Pro (NVidia 960m), and the installer doesn't boot properly. Seems like there's a nouveau problem,with lines like "failed to load", and "unsupported engines" "failed to create kernel channel", etc. Last recurring line is "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [plymouthd:260]"05:17
carrerapmaxk, just mate.desktop05:17
adun153How can I solve this? Looks like nouveau doesn't support the 960m.05:18
carreraadun153, good luck!05:18
adun153Is there a way to force the installer to use the on-board Intel Graphics?05:18
badbodhpmaxk, very likely his lightdm is improperly configured. but for the life of me i can;t find the specific file that handles which greeter/ which session to set as default :/05:18
badbodhusually it's /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf05:19
carreraadun153, one way is to use the NetInstall (mini.iso) and then install the latest nvidia drivers after the installation (apt-get install nvidia-352-updates)05:20
carreraadun153, nvidia-352 is the long lived branch which is included in the ubuntu repositories, so all you have to do is run the above command05:21
carreraadun153, of course, your system will not boot into GUI either, so you will have to use ctl+alt+F1 to access a shell05:22
adun153Is there a boot parameter I can pass to the dasktop installer, to force it to use the Intel graphics?05:22
carreraadun153, be patient as it might take some time to get to tty105:22
adun153*desktop05:22
carreraadun153, due to all the error message that the bloody nouveau driver is dumping05:23
pmaxkbadbodh, the file is /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf05:23
carreraadun153, I don't know man05:23
carreraadun153, it might be better to try to run the desktop installer in text mode, if that's possible05:24
badbodhcarrera, adun153 it is possible blacklist nuovoeueoueou drivers in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and 'nomodeset' in /etc/default/grub to stop nuvooeueoueou driver05:24
adun153yeah, that's what I was thinking.05:24
badbodhhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver#11230605:24
carreraadun153, regardless of the way you install ubuntu, you have to install the nvidia-352-updates package on your system after the installation completes05:25
adun153carrera, will do, thanks.05:25
Hitechcgnuvooeueoueou05:25
carrera:-)05:25
badbodhi can;t spell it.05:26
badbodhcarrera, ^ pmaxk gave the filename. cat and pastebinit05:26
carrerabadbodh, join the club, every time I wanna type nouveau here, I google it cause I don't wanna look any more stupid than I already do05:26
carrerabadbodh, I was looking at it. most config variables are set to "mate"05:27
badbodhok. then why doesn;t it mate then ....05:27
carrerajust a sec05:28
badbodhis it supposed to be 'ubuntu-mate' ?05:28
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk , I was looking on my old laptop!05:28
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, /usr/share/xsessions does NOT even exist on my new laptop!05:29
badbodhwell, there you have it.05:29
badbodhdid you install mate using some metapackage?05:29
badbodhlooks like you missed mate-session-manager or something05:30
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, I just ticked the MATE Desktop package in the mini.iso installation05:30
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, like I always do05:30
pmaxkcarrera, honestly you confuse me..05:31
badbodhre-install mate packages, ones that say mate-desktop, mate-session or similar05:32
carrerapmaxk, really?05:32
pmaxkyes sory05:32
badbodhmoments ago you said you had "<carrera> pmaxk, just mate.desktop" , now you say you don;t even have /usr/share/xsession05:32
pmaxkyes exactly05:33
badbodh*xsessions05:33
badbodhwe can;t help you from a chat room if you don;t focus buddy.05:33
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, you must have not read a line in between, cause I clearly said that I was looking at the wrong box, i.e. my old laptop05:34
badbodhnope, you started chatting with adun.. on nuveoueoe drivers05:34
carrerabadbodh, yes I did, but I said, "I was looking at my old laptop"05:35
carrerabadbodh, sorry for trying to help someone for once05:35
carrera<carrera> badbodh, pmaxk , I was looking on my old laptop!05:36
badbodhyou did that now, should have done that the moment you said "i have .....desktop" , you gave half info :/05:36
carrerafollowed by (and no chatting with anyone in between)05:36
carreracarrera> badbodh, pmaxk, /usr/share/xsessions does NOT even exist on my new laptop!05:36
badbodhok buddy we all have scrollback on our client. you have 10 minutes gap between "i have mate.desktop" and "i was looking at old laptop"05:37
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carrerabadbodh, that's right05:38
badbodhplease be prompt and concise when you provide info. that's all i'm saying. there's no hate here.05:38
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, I created /usr/share/xsessions and copied mate.desktop to it05:39
badbodhso you got no xsessions folder, means you got package missing. re-install everything that relates to mate05:39
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, again to no avail!  :-(05:39
carrerabadbodh, the first thing I did was to reinstall ubuntu-mate-dektop05:40
badbodhthat's just a metapackage. it does nothing.05:41
carrerabadbodh, oh05:41
badbodhrun "apt-cache show ubuntu-mate-desktop" and see dependencies, those are the things you will be re-installing05:41
DirtyCajuncan i install ubuntu server to a usb so i can switch os whneever if i choose?05:41
carreraBad_Dream, doesn't it reinstall it's dependencies?05:42
DirtyCajunbut keep all files the same on the HDDs regardles of linux distro?05:42
bobdobbs`I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 a few weeks ago. I have an nvidia card and two monitors. When I log in to ubuntu, there is no background image05:42
badbodhrun "apt-cache show ubuntu-mate-desktop" and see dependencies, those are the things you will be re-installing05:43
bobdobbs`When I select a new background image using the system settings, no background image appears.05:43
badbodhcarrera, ^ got disconnected05:43
carrerabadbodh, ubuntu-mate-desktop has too many dependencies05:44
pmaxkcarrera, carrera run in terminal > sudo apt-get install -sy ubuntu-mate-desktop to see without install everythink..05:44
carrerabadbodh, can I do a apt-file -f /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop to see which package it belongs to05:45
Chuddettetried to use the command "deb" but "no command 'deb' was found" can i use xdeb in its place?05:45
badbodhfocus on packages that say "desktop" or "Session"05:45
badbodhcarrera, you may still be missing out on something else. better to re-install all the packages that say ^ those things.05:46
carrerapmaxk, badbodh, I ran apt-get install -sy ubuntu-mate-desktop.05:46
pmaxksudo05:46
carrerapmaxk, I'm root already sir05:46
pmaxkok05:46
carrerapmaxk, ubuntu-mate-desktop is already the newest version.05:46
carrerapmaxk, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:47
badbodhpmaxk, a metapackage will just re-install itself, doesn;t affect any deps.05:47
zykotick9Chuddette: what are you trying to do?05:47
badbodhwe need to re-install deps.05:47
pmaxkok now what else?05:47
badbodhChuddette, "dpkg" handles deb files, not "deb"05:47
pmaxkcarrera05:47
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, I just found policykit-desktop-privileges in the ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies05:50
Chuddettetrying to download a package. just realized it wont work because i have to add a certain line to my /etc/apt/sources.list05:51
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, the only packate that had desktop or session in it05:51
sudeep#adhearsion05:51
badbodhcarrera, dangit! install everything in the list. https://i.imgur.com/xcAB1Ok.jpg05:52
pmaxk:))05:53
carreralol05:53
badbodhit's a net-install, get dirty.05:54
carrerabadbodh, was that from Leo: The Professional?05:54
badbodhyes05:55
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, damn, it's reinstalling LibreOffice05:59
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, I'm on a pay-by-usage line05:59
badbodhcarrera, plan before you netinstall. if your graphics gives troubles use nomodeset and blacklist (askbuntu link i shared earlier)06:00
carrerabadbodh, what about RAID0?06:01
carrerabadbodh, I managed to install mdadm from the Live session but I couldn't install GRUB06:01
carrerabadbodh, thanks for the link, I opened it06:02
carrerabadbodh, pmaxk, I reinstalled everything in ubuntu-mate-desktop to NO AVAIL!!!  :(06:08
badbodhcarrera, use lxdm instead of lightdm (should ask for default dm during install)06:10
badbodhreboot and check06:10
carrerabadbodh, I rebooted already06:11
badbodhno no, step 1. install lxdm step 2. reboot , then check.06:12
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carrerabadbodh,06:14
carrerabadbodh, ok06:14
aj_jaswanthI am getting gen8_irq thing displaying, master_control interrupt has lied.06:14
carrerabadbodh, can't I use gdm instead of LightDM?06:20
aj_jaswanthSometimes, with that master_control_interrupt lied error system is getting hung up.06:20
aj_jaswanthOnly restart is fixing it.06:20
badbodhcarrera, start with something lightweight and easy to handle. gdm is as messy as lightdm06:20
carrerabadbodh, does lxdm install lxde?06:22
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badbodhnope. but do check before pressing 'Y'06:22
carrerabadbodh, it wants to install 36 new packages 5,288 kB06:23
badbodhoopes. leave it then.06:23
badbodhhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_manager06:24
badbodh^ some options06:24
happyfacebadbodh: Like you said, i read the "dirty" link and uninstalled lubuntu desktop. Still unity is kinda weird.  Is there a way i can reinstall unity06:25
badbodhhappyface, no need to reinstall anything. your configs are messed up (in your home folder) . create a new user account and copy your documents/pictures etc into the new account;s home folder06:26
Hitechcgyeah, do "rm -rf --no-preserve-root"06:27
* Hitechcg runs06:27
Hitechcgno, really, don't do that06:27
badbodhHitechcg, ^ that gets you kicked06:28
happyfacebadbodh: i dont want to be rude. But is there a way i can repair my configs?06:28
badbodhhappyface, i just told you how ^^ to clean up, everything will go back to default.06:29
badbodhbetter to start fresh than hunting down which config is messed up. i've myself had troubles with lxde in the past, playing with it blindly messed up by primary DE06:30
happyfaceOk. Thanks badbodh :)    [what  does badbodh mean anyway?]06:30
logixmorgHey everyone, sorry to bother y'all. I recently bought and built a new computer. However it has the new "Secure Boot" from Asus. No matter the install method I do I can't see to get ubuntu server working properly. The closest I got was just a few minutes ago when everything seemed to go fine. Then when it reboot the grub command line popped up. I t06:31
logixmorgyped boot to find out no kernel to boot from. Any suggestions?06:31
badbodh!offtopic | happyface06:31
ubottuhappyface: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:31
badbodh:P06:31
badbodhlogixmorg, #ubuntu-server folks will have better idea . mostly newbs like myself in this channel.06:33
logixmorgThank you I'll check them out.06:33
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carrerabadbodh, thanks for the DM options and all the help06:34
badbodhcarrera, no guarantees man. i'm not ubuntu expert. just sharing stuff from around the webs. netinstall is tricky, each distro has some or another odd quirk. like ubuntu's messy lightdm package06:35
alainhello, anyone know an alternative to Nova Builder?06:37
Guest75484got a prob with grub2.006:37
happyfacebadbodh: you were right. But still i am not getting the programs i had in my old account06:37
Guest75484as  I edited the file /etc/default/grub06:37
Guest75484I can change the time for which grub menu holds from 10 sec to 3006:37
Guest75484but images isn't changing06:38
Guest75484I added the line GRUB_BACKGROUND="path"06:38
Guest75484but there is some sort of priority I guess, that images isn't loading06:38
badbodhhappyface, in your old home look for ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop06:38
Guest75484help me out plz06:38
carrera badbodh, I have never had any problems with NetInstall in the past06:38
happyfacebadbodh: Got it. Then?06:40
badbodhcarrera, i'd suggest to start from scratch again. and don;t use meta-packages without verifying what's getting installed.06:40
badbodhusing metapackages kinda defeats the purpose of netinstall :D06:40
badbodhhappyface, copy/paste the .desktop files in your new home's .local/share/applications/06:41
badbodhthe .desktop files only, don't copy anything else06:41
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badbodhcarrera, a little trick could help. don't use any dm and start mate using startx command06:43
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* Overlap waves Hello06:44
happyfacebadbodh: Ok . done06:44
Overlapgrub2 issue06:44
badbodhcarrera, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc06:45
Overlapbadbodh, can you solve my issue regarding grub2 ?06:45
badbodhOverlap, no. but do write your complete question here and wait for a response.06:46
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happyfacebadbodh: what should i do now?06:47
badbodhany details you can spare. you nick will be highlighted when someone;s ready with an answr06:47
badbodhstay online till then.06:47
carrerabadbodh, I did a startx in tty1 (not as root) and the display went full black!06:47
badbodhhappyface, you find your old apps now ?06:47
OverlapI edited /etc/default/grub , I am able to change the default time of 10 sec to 30 sec for which grub menu show menu06:47
carrerabadbodh, I can access other ttys and tty7 still shows LightDM06:47
Overlapbut splash image isn't changing06:47
OverlapI added the line GRUB_BaCKGROUND="path"06:48
Overlapbut still it isn't working06:48
OverlapI ran sudo update_grub06:48
badbodhcarrera, start from scratch again. install mate, don't install any -DM, use startx after editing your xinitrc file (link ^ above)06:48
badbodhshould help you find out what's wrong06:49
badbodhOverlap, "grub background =/path" only changes the background in boot menu (the one you get pressing shift)06:50
badbodhfor splash theme to change run "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth"06:52
badbodhfollowed by "sudo update-initramfs -u"06:52
badbodhdo "sudo update-grub" to apply all changes06:53
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ub_ubuntuhow to make sure that ssh doesnt start at system startup07:17
julian-delphikiub_ubuntu, remove the package?07:17
ub_ubuntubut i need it07:18
julian-delphikiokay, then you have to update the init script symlinks... sec.07:18
julian-delphikiwhat ubuntu version ub_ubuntu07:19
ub_ubuntu15.1007:19
julian-delphikiub_ubuntu, `echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.conf.override` i believe.07:19
ub_ubuntuokay will try07:21
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hcintlHaven't found tutorial how to switch Ubuntu phone to another distro. Is Ubuntu phone closed or open? Have anyone been able to install another distro into Ubuntu phone?07:45
somsip!phone | hcintl07:46
ubottuhcintl: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:46
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goddardwill this rebuild dkms properly07:57
goddarddkms status | sed s/,//g | awk '{print "-m",$1,"-v",$2}' | while read line; do ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | xargs -n 1 dkms install $line -k; done07:57
goddardfound it online07:57
somsipgoddard: break it down into smaller commands and see if it prepares what you really want to send to dkms install -k07:59
carrerabadbodh, thanks for all your help again07:59
badbodhcarrera, anything works ?07:59
carrerabadbodh, I was eating. going to bed now. It's 11:30 am here and I was up all night08:00
rajeshlaswa#nkntech08:00
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dotpixisHow do i get ibus daemon to autostart when i boot08:08
rdertrumdotpixis: not08:10
dotpixisrdertrum: ?08:11
dotpixisop i would like to report abuse08:12
carrerathis is what rdrtrum sent me in private just now:  Welcome to #ubuntu. You dumb goat stinking rotten son of a bitch Bastard!!!08:12
carrera*rdertrum08:13
dotpixisme too ( carrera )08:14
dotpixisops i looks like he's not even using a proxy08:15
dotpixisalso whatever he's doing he has a bunch of weird services running08:15
carreradotpixis, this ip 95.141.29.37?08:16
dotpixiscarrera: in the process of confirming08:17
carrerahe just called me a Nigge:  rdertrum> Nigge08:18
TonySparkcarrera, Just ignore it, best thing to do08:18
elisa87Hi, any idea how could this be fixed? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34261325/slave-vm-removed-from-list-of-slaves-and-still-being-accessed-by-yarn-tez08:19
carreraTonySpark, good idea, did you pm you too?08:19
dotpixisty DJones =\08:19
SPFwhere can I find the release notes of specific packages?08:22
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DJonesSPF: I'd have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search for the package, that normally shows a changes text file, maybe a link to release notes08:24
jimstahello guys anybody know a good system program that scan the whole system for devices and such08:32
hateballjimsta: What is it you are looking to do?08:33
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jimstajust to take note of all the device and stuff08:38
mheohi08:41
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EriC^^hi08:41
AtuMHello. I have a weird issue with an asus x75c laptop.. it has an atheros wifi card using ath9k driver. rfkill shows me that the physical switch (asus-wlan) is hard blocked.. the shortcut key to enable/disable it does not make any difference.08:42
SPFDJones: thanks08:47
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SeveasSPF: /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ -- there's generally a file named something like CHANGES09:01
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Guest51025server ubuntu apa?09:09
AtuMdoes anyone know of a web-gui that can be used to manage existing virtual machines - sort of what virt-manager does09:10
MathisenAtuM, virtualbox got that09:11
MathisenAtuM, http://www.linuxhomeserverguide.com/server-config/phpVirtualBox.php09:11
AtuMexisting virtual machines - I'm using kvm hypervisor09:11
AtuMMathisen, thanx anyway.. I might just use this for one of my next projects09:13
MathisenAtuM, maybe http://www.proxmox.com/en/ then... cant say... only used virtualbox myself09:13
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twilighthello everyone, I need to reconfigure my ssh to use a "unique Diffie-Hellman moduli of 2048 bits or greater.". That's because of the Logjam vulenrability.09:19
twilightI've read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2624-1/ and my system is updated…but I still have the problem. Any ideas on how to proceed?09:19
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Ben64twilight: already been patched09:23
twilightBen64: yes I saw that, but my server still fails the PCI compliance test for this. I will check again if everything is updated09:25
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YamakasYwhat is the size of a trusty mirror atm ?09:28
arsenalIf you purchase any product whose value is more than 50000 you get 10000 discount and if it is less than 50000 you get 20% discount. The validity is for 3 days.09:28
arsenaltest09:29
YamakasY?09:29
* YamakasY wonder who likes arsenal anyways :P09:29
arsenalsorry not meant for this09:29
arsenalforum09:29
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AtuMI'm trying out WebVirtMgr.. it looks like what I need09:41
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seudboergHello together. I have a problem regarding graphics on my notebook and online search did not get anywhere. I work with a dual monitor setup and usually switch to the second, external, monitor through the system settings -> display dialog. Today I used the function keys of my notebook and since then it is impossible to change any display related settings.10:02
seudboergWhen I try to switch to the seconds monitor both, the internal and external screens start flickering and I only get so see graphical glitches.10:03
seudboergWhen I detach the second monitor and try to change the resolution of the internal screen, the flickering starts too.10:04
seudboergRebooting the machine, either with or without the external screen works fine10:04
seudboergDoes someone have any idea where I can start looking for the problem?10:05
seudboergI use Ubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Latitude E6430 with Intel graphics10:08
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seudboergOkay I solved the problem. It was either a problem with vsync or texture-compression settings in compiz.10:15
windearthfireraiQUestion: How do I make a AppArmor profile have Default Allow  for all actions, and only deny certain actions?10:18
windearthfirerailike (deny network)10:18
windearthfirerai??10:18
windearthfireraiis there a "default allow" clause??10:18
help_pleasehey guys10:26
help_pleaseanyone ever setup their ubuntu vm as their gateway10:26
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help_pleasei have a win7 host, ubuntu vm10:26
help_please1 router and 1 switch10:26
help_pleaseand would like to forward my traffic from windows 7 vm to ubuntu vm10:27
help_pleaseonto internet10:27
help_pleasein ubuntu vm i want to do tcp traffic manipulation via netsed10:27
dotpixiswhat is the esaiest way to change my "move to trash"/"delete" option to excecute: "shred -n 20 -z -u file_name" ?10:28
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help_pleasewho can help me setup10:30
help_pleaseubuntu vm10:30
JH151whois help_please10:33
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JH151help_please: look iptables10:33
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sara2010any one help me10:42
sara2010i m going to install hp scanjet 20010:43
sara2010but its not working10:43
sara2010using ubuntu 12.0410:43
TurBossHi10:43
sara2010any one help mre10:44
TurBossI have a strange problem in gnome terminal, it types comas instead of dots10:44
gustav1234xTurBoss: When you’re doing what?10:44
TurBosswhen  I tipe a dot10:44
TurBossin the numerical keyboard it places a coma10:45
gustav1234xTurBoss: Is your keyboard setup correctly?10:45
TurBosshmmm... checking10:45
sara2010gustav1234x:   help me ?10:46
gustav1234xsara2010: I didn’t see your problem.10:46
sara2010gustav1234x:  i m trying to install  hp scanjet 20010:46
sara2010gustav1234x:  but its not working !10:47
gustav1234xsara2010: What version of Ubuntu?10:47
sara201012.0410:48
sara2010ubuntu 12.0410:48
gustav1234xsara2010: Seems like it can’t be used in Ubuntu.10:48
sara2010:(10:48
sara2010which version should be work10:48
gustav1234xsara2010: Other than maybe via virtualization.10:48
gustav1234xsara2010: Not sure what that means.10:49
hateballsara2010: It's not supported by hplip at all, that is the drivers from HP for their things10:49
TurBosssara2010 check http://www.openprinting.org/printers10:50
TurBossgustav1234x my keyboard layout is ok10:50
sara2010TurBoss:  i need to install scanner !10:50
TurBossI can print  ññ10:50
TurBossI mean i can type ñ10:51
gustav1234xTurBoss: Do you have the same problem in say LibreOffice?10:51
TurBossno10:51
TurBossonly on gnome-terminal10:51
lucas2What are the benefits, if any, of booting ubuntu on EFI rather than Legacy mode (BIOS style)?10:52
gustav1234xTurBoss: Have you tried a different shell?10:52
gustav1234xSorry. Lunch.10:52
TurBossgustav1234x xtrem works fine10:52
TurBossok10:53
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sara2010gustav1234x:   its possible installed with wine ?11:01
sara2010hateball:   its possible installed with wine ?11:01
Tk-421Hello11:01
Yehaihello11:04
Yehai?11:05
ikoniahi there11:05
lucas2Hello, what are the benefits, if any, of booting ubuntu on EFI rather than Legacy mode (BIOS style)?11:05
Yehaiubuntu work with 1g mem?11:05
sara2010its possible to install hp scanjet 200 with wine ?11:06
ikoniaYehai: yes11:07
EriC^^lucas2: more modern and faster booting ( just a little )11:07
ikoniasara2010: not somethine I'd recommend11:07
ikoniasara2010: the native linux cups drivers should work with almost every HP priner without wine11:07
EriC^^lucas2: also if you install a new os it doesn't replace the bootloader of the first os, it just adds its efi file11:07
Yehaisara2010: a printer?11:07
Tk-421In the terminal I'm getting something that says Invalid entry length (0). DMI table is broken! Stop.11:09
Tk-421Is this a bad thing?11:09
YamakasYcan I start a script after a cronjob, backup , has finished ?11:09
ikoniaYamakasY: just put the script in the end of the script that launches the backup11:10
ikoniaso it executes when the backup is completed11:10
YamakasYikonia: yeah, but it's a xtrabackup so I need to script that in script, not nice11:11
sara2010ikonia:  its hp scnajet  usb scanner11:11
ikoniaYamakasY: a script being called from a script is fine, so it putting the commands in the initial script11:11
ikoniasara2010: should still work, %99.9 do11:11
sara2010ikonia:  its not working . with ubuntu 12.0411:11
ikoniayou'll have to explain a bit better than "not working"11:12
sara2010ikonia:  i have installed hplip  and xsane , its says no scanner11:13
YamakasYikonia: yeah but not for my puppet way11:14
ikoniaYamakasY: it works fine with puppet11:14
hateballikonia, sara2010 the scanjet 200 is not supported by hplip, not any other flatbed scanners either11:14
ikoniahateball: thank you for doing the leg work11:14
hateballmost HP MFP printers are however supported11:14
hateballsara2010: I doubt you could get it working using wine either11:15
YamakasYikonia: nah I need to write extra manifests instead of puppeting both crons in simply11:15
ikoniaYamakasY: do it however you feel best then11:15
hateballsara2010: The Sane project supports lots of HP flatbed scanners, however the 200 seems to be one that it does not11:15
sara2010hateball:  so how it will work ?11:16
YamakasYikonia: sure I will11:16
hateballsara2010: It wont.11:16
ikoniahateball: appreciate the leg work11:17
hateballikonia: I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not11:17
ikoniahateball: far from it, saved a lot of time researching11:18
hateball:)11:18
hateballsara2010: If your funds allow for it, I would look up a new MFP that is supported according to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html11:18
hateballI can't find any good resource for what Sane supports, if you want a pure flatbed scanner11:20
MrElendigget a epson v600 or similar11:23
MrElendigalso http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html11:24
MrElendigthe official list of supported devices11:24
nurvePanko are u here11:33
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pmaxknurve: anoixa kanali...11:36
cfhowlettalumno_, play somewhere else11:37
carreraCan anyone tell me why I get "Failed to start session" on a fresh install of 15.10?11:37
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cfhowlettcarrera, Ms. Cleo could, but she's retired.  for the rest of use, you have to actually provide DETAILS11:38
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cfhowlettalumno_, don't be  a jerk11:38
carreracfhowlett, Hi  :)11:38
cfhowlettcarrera, greetings.    > details >>> answers11:38
GladiaTeurhi how to prevent this ssh login attempt's a part of log "auth.log" https://dpaste.de/0etg/raw11:39
cfhowlett!details | carrera11:39
ubottucarrera: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)11:39
carreraI used the NetInstall, picked the MATE desktop and SSH server in the options and configured my 2 SSDs in RAID 011:39
carreraI can log in from tty1 and I can also ssh in11:39
carrerabut I can't login from LightDM on tty711:40
cfhowlettGladiaTeur, you could block the IP in ufw11:40
carreraI reinstalled every package in the ubuntu-mate-desktop to no avail11:40
GladiaTeurcfhowlett all the ip's and what is ufw ? and how to do that in which file11:40
cfhowlett!ufw | GladiaTeur11:41
ubottuGladiaTeur: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo11:41
carrerahardware is a new Asus G751 gaming laptop with a GeForce 860m video card11:41
carreraI have installed the nvidia-351-updates package from the ubuntu repositories11:41
carrera*nvidia-352-updates11:41
GladiaTeurcfhowlett ok let me check tnx11:42
carreranvidia-352 is the latest long-term branch of the drivers11:42
carreracfhowlett, was that enough details11:44
cfhowlettcarrera, yes.  patience.  ask again in 15 minutes.  this one is over my head.11:45
ikoniacarrera: do you get a light dm login window presented to you ?11:46
carrerayes, I do11:46
ikoniaand you fail to auth when you try to login11:47
carreraas usual I didn't with the nouveau drivers11:47
carrerabut when I installed the nvidia drivers it boots nicely to the LightDM login page11:47
ikoniaand you fail to auth when you try to login11:47
carrerajust like my older laptop, also running Ubuntu MATE 15.1011:47
ikoniaok - I'm bored now11:47
ikoniagood luck11:48
carreraikonia, yes I fail with "Failed to start session" message11:48
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hateballcarrera: make sure ~/..Xauthority is owned by your user:user11:52
carrerahateball, thanks, I'll check11:52
hateballcarrera: and read ~/.xsession-errors after a failed login, if it has more detailed info11:52
carrerahateball, .Xauthority is owned by user:user with permission 60011:53
hateballcarrera: as it should11:53
carreragood!11:53
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carrerahateball, no errors there11:54
ikoniait will be all the pam modules and stuff like that has he's done a minimal install, but I can't be bothered working it through as it's too much hard working getting a simple answer to a question11:54
carrerahateball, Xsession: X session started for carrera at Mon.... localuser: carrera being added to access control list11:56
ralpheeeehi guys o/....installed ubuntu core with i3wm...can some one poinnt be in the direction for rendering issues with chrome and fn keys not working...11:57
carreraI installed Ubuntu MATE 15.04 on my older laptop with exactly the same way with no problems11:57
carrerathen I upgraded to 15.10 with no problems11:57
carreraikonia, are you referring to me?11:58
hateballcarrera: are you able to start any other DE session?12:00
hateballif you have Unity or KDE Plasma or some such available12:00
carrerahateball, I did not install any other DEs12:01
carrerahateball, but I reinstalled all the dependencies of ubuntu-mate-desktop, to no avail12:01
ReventlovYosh.12:01
ReventlovTrying to install ubuntu 15.10 on an acer E15 with a gtx 920m. The liveusb is fine, I can boot to grub (UEFI computer), still, when I try to boot to the install menu, I get a black screen (nothing, not even a blinking cursor).12:02
ReventlovI tried a various combination of options on the linux line: nomodeset, nolapic, acpi=off, it doesn't change anything.12:03
ReventlovAny idea ?12:03
carreraikonia, weren't you the guy who told me I can't boot the mini.iso?12:06
ReventlovSame problem with 14.0412:07
carreraikonia, all I had to do was turn on BIOS Compatibility Module12:07
carreraikonia, who can't be bothered to work through a problem man???12:07
carreraikonia, you don't know what you're talking about12:07
ikoniaI couldn't be bothered, as I said12:08
carrerathen shut up12:08
GladiaTeurcfhowlett sudo ufw deny from "ip" like this right?12:08
ikoniadrop the attitude carrera12:08
pmaxkReventlov: graphic card?12:08
Reventlovpmaxk: 920m, nvidia geforce12:08
GladiaTeurif i want to deny ssh connections to port 22 using ufw, sudo ufw deny from "ip" or not ?12:09
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Reventlovpmaxk: it seems it boot, btw, just i can't see anything12:11
hateballReventlov: Do you not get any display on tty1 either? With nomodeset you should be able to get a console and install the 355 driver from ppa12:12
Reventlovhateball: no tty1 display12:13
Reventlovthe same black screen12:14
pmaxkReventlov: how did you install ubuntu?12:15
Reventlovi didn't install ubuntu.12:15
Reventlov2015-12-14-13:02:34 < Reventlov> Trying to install ubuntu 15.1012:15
pmaxkReventlov: from live usb ?12:16
Reventlovyes.12:16
Reventlovas i said, i can boot to grub, but nothing after.12:17
Reventlovtried with 15.10, 14.04, and the live works on another machine, so i do not think it's the live which is the issue12:17
pmaxkReventlov: so you see the initial menu for options not grub..12:19
Reventlovpmaxk: the inital menu for booting is a grub12:19
Reventlov>GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.312:20
Reventlovfor example.12:20
ReventlovAs i said, it's an uefi system.12:20
pmaxkReventlov: with what app you make the live usb?12:20
Reventlovwith dd.12:20
pmaxkReventlov: i think you have to try another12:21
pmaxkReventlov: like unetbooting or rufus in win12:22
Reventlovpmaxk: i think i don't have to.12:24
ReventlovIf someone12:24
pmaxkReventlov: may i ask the dd command you use?12:25
Reventlovdd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdX12:25
lorenI'm probably in a wrong channel, but I'll ask anyway. How do I change my Apache web server root directory?12:29
Mathisenloren, You need to change the DocumentRoot setting in your httpd.conf .. most likley >> /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf12:30
lorenthere's no conf directory in /etc/apache212:31
Mathisenloren, 1. sudo updatedb 2. locate httpd.conf12:31
lorenthanks, Mathisen12:31
daftykinsloren: nah it's not called httpd.conf in apache2 on ubuntu... you're more likely after editing /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-000.conf12:33
loren$ locate conf.d | grep "apache"   gives me /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d   is that the right config file?12:33
daftykinsoops 000-default.conf12:34
lorenoh..12:34
lorenlocate httpd.conf only gives me ~/.rbenv/versions/2.2.3/lib/ruby/gems/2.2.0/gems/rack-1.6.4/test/cgi/lighttpd.conf12:35
lorenthis isn't related to apache12:35
daftykins"how do i change my apache web server root" isn't related to apache? how do you figure?12:35
lorenno, the file that locate gave me12:36
lorenlol12:36
daftykinsno it's not :)12:36
daftykinssince it's in php's path12:36
lorenyeah, that's weird12:36
daftykinsas i say you want to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf12:36
daftykinsbut it makes more sense to keep /var/www/html/ the default, chown it as www-data:www-data and then add your user to the www-data group; if you're after direct control of the files in the root.12:37
lorenyeah, I'll do that, thanks12:37
lorenseems like my user was already in www-data12:44
somsiploren: if you're taking this approach, worth doing chmod -R g+s /var/www too, so all log files, cache files, etc can be created okay by www-data12:45
daftykinsbut the logs are in /var/log/apache2...12:46
somsipdaftykins: project logs, eg: /var/www/myproject/logs12:46
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lorenyeah, I only got html/ in /var/www/12:46
somsiploren: just a thought. If this is a local dev server anyway. You should be more picky if it's production12:47
daftykinspicky? o012:47
lorensomsip, it's just a local dev server so no big deal12:47
andreas_test12:48
somsipdaftykins: more specfic with permissions - not *everything* needs to be +w for www-data, but folders like logs and cache probably need to be12:48
daftykinsoh ok12:48
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albratos007halo13:05
daftykinsalbratos007: yes hello, if you have a question ask it... otherwise don't greet us in this channel :P13:06
ReventlovAny idea for this installation problem ?13:08
BluesKajHey folks13:09
lorenhi13:09
daftykinsReventlov: if nomodeset didn't work, what kind of system is this?13:09
Reventlovdaftykins: well, as I said13:10
Reventlovit's an aspire e15.13:10
ReventlovE5-573G-379T. If you have any question on the hardware, I can answer.13:10
daftykinsright but that was before i came in, you have to understand it's your responsibility to provide the details, i'm the volunteer, we don't work to find out the info13:10
Reventlovdaftykins: I provided all the details.13:10
daftykinsbefore i came in like i just said.13:11
ReventlovOh, sorry. I'll prepare a pastebin.13:11
daftykinsis this the white one?13:11
Reventlovyes.13:12
Reventlovhttp://sprunge.us/ENeI13:12
renkahello... is there a good package to create an exchange server on ubuntu?13:13
ikoniarenka: there is no such thing as an exchange server13:13
renkahmm?13:13
daftykinsReventlov: i would install from mini.iso and then get the nvidia driver on prior to installing X and the desktop13:13
ikoniarenka: there is no such thing as an exchange server on linux13:14
renkahow to host an exchange server else?13:14
ikoniarenka: you host it on windows13:14
daftykinsrenka: do you mean just a normal mail server?13:14
renkai want to start an server where all mails, contacts, terms etc. goes and have access from any outlook13:15
renkafor like 10 mail adresses13:16
Reventlovrenka: use windows for that.13:16
ikoniarenka: you need an excahnge server on windows to run an exchange solution13:16
renkadamn13:16
daftykinsrenka: better yet, pay for office 365 or google apps, don't run it yourself.13:16
daftykinsbut that is off topic here :)13:16
ikoniaan even better idea for 10 users13:17
renkai have google apps, but google apps does not support exchange13:17
daftykinsrenka: i don't think you know what exchange is since you're throwing the term around in inappropriate places.13:17
AtuMrenka, perhaps Zarafa might be something worth looking into13:17
ikoniarenka: office365 as daftykins said, ask the guys in ##windows13:17
renkathanks13:20
BoriszHello everyone! I have WinXP/Xubuntu 15.10 64bit dualboot. If i used ubuntu, then the next time i boot into XP, the USB mouse (back panel) and my wifi stick (front usb panel) does not work. A reboot from xp or the reset button solves the problem. Tried to google the problem, i failed to find anything related. No clue what to do. (I tried to boot live xubuntu 14.04.3 32bit from usb, happens the same as i start win). Thanks13:36
k1lBorisz: do you reboot or power down and then boot again?13:37
k1lBorisz: could be that a total powerloss is needed to change the state the linux driver keeps the devices in.13:38
ikoniawasn't this a bug in some usb chipset ?13:38
ikoniaquite an old one13:38
lotuspsychjeBorisz: and do you have usb/bios enabled or usb/Os13:38
k1likonia: well, winxp refers to "quite old" :)13:39
ikoniaI guess so13:40
daftykinsshouldn't even be using XP13:40
gleebdaftykins, I've kept trying various things but I still can't get Ubuntu to install even after all that time.13:41
Boriszk1l, i reboot from win, or press reset button when its booting, i dont power down. i dont understand your second question :)) is that some setting in bios? and yes, xp (work machine, i cannot do anything about it)13:41
daftykinsgleeb: i can't remember your issue13:41
gleebdaftykins, Couldn't boot or install Ubuntu 14.04 no matter what I tried, it would always hang13:42
lotuspsychjeBorisz: yes bios has an option for usb mouse/keyboard support it can be set to Os or Bios13:42
gleebWith the same two issues13:42
Boriszkl1 motherboard asrock h81m-vg4 if that matters13:42
daftykinsgleeb: ah, tried a DVD or other flash drive?13:42
k1lBorisz: try to power down and then boot to win. maybe the device keeps a state while still having power that the windows driver cant handle. so a power down is needed to make the device forget it13:42
gleebdaftykins, I just sourced a new flash drive13:42
gleebGoing to try again13:43
gleebCannot use a DVD to due the lack of a drive to read one13:43
Boriszkl1 Okay, I will try that, thanks. Not a big problem, it just bugs me :)13:43
Reventlovdaftykins: I'm failing to boot to the minimal iso13:44
gleebdaftykins, Does the lack of "UMS support" in the Radeon module actually mean it won't work. It's a sporadic error that can pop up sometimes but it's not the main cause of the problem, as nomodeset failed to help either.13:44
daftykinsgleeb: i answered that last time, said it likely wasn't the crux of the matter13:46
gleebYeah, I remember you did. I'm trying another pendrive today13:46
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daftykinsgleeb: what OS are you preparing it from - and with which program?13:47
gleebFrom Windows 10, tried both Unetbootin to prepare and Rufus13:47
gleebBoth of which failed, although with different messages13:47
studentmuskan13:48
gleebdaftykins, I'll attempt to do it again on the other drive, in case it fails, I'll be back.13:49
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Reventlovdaftykins: ok, so it's not an option (the mini.iso)14:00
Reventlov>Note: While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode.14:00
daftykinsReventlov: are you wanting ubuntu as the only OS, or dual boot with win10?14:01
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Reventlovdaftykins: well, dual booting with windows.14:05
Reventlovbut using bios/legacy is not an option.14:05
daftykinsReventlov: yes, i know how it works... server would be ok to achieve the same14:06
robairt_exit14:09
loodoonsHello :)14:16
OerHeks:-)14:17
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Reventlovdaftykins: same problem with the server iso.14:29
lotus|xenialReventlov: wich graphics card chipset and ubuntu version please?14:30
daftykinswhat same problem?14:30
daftykinsdetails...14:30
Reventlovdaftykins: details: the same than the previous time.14:31
daftykinsok, if you're not willing to type out a complete sentence then i'm not willing to help.14:31
ReventlovI can access to the grub on the server livecd. Then I try to go to the install software, black screen.14:31
daftykinsenjoy.14:31
Reventlovbye :)14:31
ReventlovSo, for thoses willing (and able) to help: http://sprunge.us/ENeI14:32
ReventlovThe minimal iso is not an option (doesn't work on uefi systems), and I tried the server livecd, I have the same problem than the one described.14:32
lotus|xenialReventlov: gtx 920m is an optimus and needs nvidia-prime14:33
lotus|xenialReventlov: wich driver do you have in use?14:33
Reventlovlotus|xenial: i'm trying to install ubuntu (as described on the paste)14:34
Reventlovso, nothing, right now.14:34
Reventlovsince I cannot even get to the installation screen.14:34
lotus|xenialReventlov: you dont have ubuntu installed yet?14:35
Reventlovlotus|xenial: indeed, as described on http://sprunge.us/ENeI14:35
MonkeyDustReventlov  what's on the pc right now? windows? ubuntu? something else?14:36
ReventlovMonkeyDust: Windows 8.14:36
lotus|xenialReventlov: do you want singleboot or dualboot?14:36
MonkeyDustReventlov  ok, go in windows 8 and provide the requested details14:36
ReventlovMonkeyDust: which details ?14:36
Reventlovlotus|xenial: dualboot. Otherwise I would've gone with the minimal iso14:37
lotus|xenial!uefi | Reventlov14:37
ubottuReventlov: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI14:37
tomerHello, is anyone familiar with the `amixer` utility? I'm trying to understand what the difference between `set` and `sset` is, if any.14:37
Reventlovlotus|xenial: I know.14:37
ReventlovWhy do you give me that ?14:37
lotus|xenialReventlov: you need to do steps before dualboot with uefi14:38
MonkeyDust!info amixer14:38
Reventlovlotus|xenial: dual booting with uefi is not the problem.14:38
ubottuPackage amixer does not exist in wily14:38
ReventlovAs i said: i can boot to grub14:38
MonkeyDust!info amixer trusty14:38
ubottuPackage amixer does not exist in trusty14:38
Reventlovjust read http://sprunge.us/ENeI14:38
lotus|xenialReventlov: go into live and install nvidia-prime14:38
Reventlovlotus|xenial: did you read my paste ? I don't think so.14:38
lotus|xenialReventlov: your card is optimus and needs the right combo with the driver14:39
Reventlov>The liveusb is fine, I can boot to grub (UEFI computer), still, when I try to boot to the install menu, I get a black screen (nothing, not even a blinking cursor).14:39
ReventlovI cannot do anything if the screen is black.14:39
lotus|xenialReventlov: i didnt say 'install'14:39
lotus|xenialReventlov: i said try live14:39
Reventlovlotus|xenial: And I tried.14:39
ReventlovSame issue.14:39
MonkeyDustReventlov  try with a live usb, instead of cd/dvd14:40
lotus|xenialReventlov: do you have bios options to set nvidia or intel?14:40
ReventlovMonkeyDust: I already use a live usb.14:40
Reventlovlotus|xenial: let me check, i don't think so.14:40
lotus|xenialReventlov: if you have try the boot into intel only14:40
zykotick9MonkeyDust: amixer is in the alsa-utils package14:42
tomerzykotick9: Indeed. I think `set` and `sset` might just be synonymous, but I wonder why the latter exists in the first place.14:43
Reventlovlotus|xenial: no, nothing.14:44
lotus|xenialReventlov: you have no weird bios setting mentioning 'intel something' that could block installing other Os right?14:45
Reventlovno.14:45
lotus|xenialReventlov: iv seen boxes before blocking that by default14:45
Reventlovbtw it's an uefi.14:45
lotus|xenialReventlov: i know you said that already14:45
Reventlovwell then stop talking of a bios.14:46
lotus|xenialReventlov: try a lubuntu liveusb14:47
faltuhello there14:49
faltuhow can i transfer file to another drive14:50
Reventlovlotus|xenial: ok.14:50
faltuhello14:50
faltuis any buddy  is here14:52
ikoniayes14:52
MonkeyDustfaltu  you mean cp a file to another device?14:52
faltuplease help me14:52
faltuyes14:52
ikoniahelp you what ?14:52
faltuwhat is cp14:52
MonkeyDustfaltu  mount the device, then copy the file to it14:53
ikoniafaltu: open the file manager and drag and drop14:53
ikoniathe same as windows or mac (if you're used to wither of those)14:53
faltuhow to trensfer file by terminl14:53
ikonia(either)14:53
ikoniafaltu: cp14:53
ikoniathats the command14:53
faltuyes14:53
ikoniagreat, so now you know14:54
faltufull14:54
ikoniafaltu: man cp14:54
ikoniathat will show you the syntax of copy (cp)14:54
faltuhow to  install software offline14:55
ikoniafaltu: you have to download the packages and dependencies, it's not really how the ubuntu package manager was designed to work14:55
ikoniait's not something I'd suggest you look at14:55
faltuwhat command is offline installer14:56
ikoniait's not a command14:56
ikoniaas I've just said14:56
ikoniayou have to manually download the packages and dependencies (there are tools) then use the online installer pointed at those packages14:56
faltuwhat command14:56
ikoniait's not something I sugest you look at, it's easier to just do on line14:56
ikoniafaltu: it's NOT a command14:56
faltuhow to install software14:57
faltu>14:57
faltu?14:57
ikoniafaltu: I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com14:57
ikoniathat will give you an overview of how to use ubuntu at a basic level14:58
bazhang!offline | faltu14:58
ubottufaltu: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD14:58
lotus|xenialReventlov: try to disable fastboot and secureboot to make sure its not uefi messing things up, preventing you to install ubuntu14:58
faltutnx bro14:58
faltuikonia14:58
herrkinhello community I always bring funny problems here.15:02
herrkinI cant get a serial pci card to work15:02
herrkinits not detected by lspci15:02
herrkinno serial card shown15:03
ikoniathen it's got a hardware problem15:03
lotus|xenialherrkin: what kind of device are we talking about?15:03
herrkinthats the problem I dont have the exact model, I am working on it remotely15:03
herrkinit had windows last week, and it was working perfectly15:03
Reventlovlotus|xenial: fastboot already disabled. Secure boot too.15:03
ikoniait has a hardware problem, if you put a card in and you can't even probe it on the bus - it's not working15:03
herrkinthey installed ubuntu, this card doesnt show so I cant install software that comunicate via serial ports15:04
herrkinyes well I am not an expert on linux either15:04
herrkinit just doesnt say serial15:04
herrkinmaybe it is in lspci but not as a serial card15:04
ikoniaherrkin: it would appear to be a hardware problem15:04
ikoniaherrkin: then look for it as something else15:05
Reventlovherrkin: did you try to compare the output of lspci when the card is plugged // unplugged ?15:05
mrzhanghi15:06
herrkinReventlov, hold on a sec, I will save an lspci output15:07
herrkinI can't physically access the computer, its in a different city.15:08
herrkinbut I could ask them to unplug it and see what happens15:08
mrsam96hi all15:08
herrkinlook http://termbin.com/qdh415:09
ikoniaherrkin: why are you showing us this ?15:09
herrkinthats my lspci -vv output15:09
ikoniaherrkin: you've not taken the card out15:09
herrkinyes but its good to see what it shows15:09
herrkinmaybe you can identify something I cant15:09
ikoniahow can we know what your card is and what it's being presented as15:10
ikoniayou don't even know the model15:10
ikoniawhat's this device for example15:10
ikoniaIntegrated Technology Express15:10
mrsam96waht can i see that my graphic card is install or not?15:10
ikoniamrsam96: pardon ?15:11
fephehe15:11
Reventlovikonia: it's a pcie to pci bridge.15:11
ikoniaReventlov: but what is it ?15:11
herrkinok I am going to ask them to remove it and try figuring out the model so we can work better on this15:11
Guest58511http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php15:12
mrsam96<ikonia>i wanna finout that my graphice driver is install or noT15:12
Reventlovikonia: something to bridge pci ports to pcie ones15:12
ikoniamrsam96: what video card do you have ?15:12
lotus|xenialReventlov: can you try booting with quiet splash off "" so we can see errors whats going on?15:12
ikoniaReventlov: I know what it does  I'm using it to show that we cannot identify brand/make/model form a blind lspci output, any more than he can15:13
mrsam96ikonia : AMD..Radeon15:13
Reventlovlotus|xenial: let's try. Which iso do you prefer ? The server one, the lubuntu one, the desktop one ?15:13
lotus|xenialReventlov: lets try desktop with quirt splash of15:13
ikoniamrsam96: so you need to look at what version of the ati drivers support that card, and then look at the xorg log to see if it's using them (or know if you've manually installed them)15:13
mrsam96<ikonia>im freshs user here...i installing ubuntu now...so what can i do for understand it...plz say simply tnx15:14
ikoniamrsam96: is your video display working ?15:15
mrsam96<ikonia>how can i understand? :|15:15
tomermrsam96: Do you have an image on your screen, can you see Ubuntu?15:15
ikoniamrsam96: is your gui working - do you have a gui15:16
mrsam96yeah15:16
Reventlovlotus|xenial: replacing quiet splash with nosplash ?15:16
mrsam96<ikonia>yeah15:16
ikoniamrsam96: ok - so I suggest if you are new radig https://help.ubuntu.com15:16
dcopeis there a way to VNC to a ubuntu 12.04 machine with no display plugged in *without* buying a fake dongle?15:16
Reventlovor just deleting it ?15:16
lotus|xenialReventlov: no just wipe quiet splash to empty yes15:16
ikoniamrsam96: that is a good introduction to ubuntu for a new user and includes things like setting up your desktop and graphics15:16
mrsam96<ikonia>so how can i install kDE without any buG?15:16
mrsam96<ikonia>tnx :)15:16
ikoniamrsam96: are you using kubuntu ?15:16
Reventlovdone. And nothing shows.15:17
mrsam96<ikonia>no use ubuntu 15.1015:17
ikoniamrsam96: use kubuntu if you want to use kde15:17
ikoniamrsam96: it is the best approach15:17
Reventlovlet's try lubuntu, I finished downloading it.15:17
mrsam96so if wanna use kdE her what can i do?15:17
ikoniainstall kubuntu15:17
ikoniathat is the best choice15:18
mrsam96i dont like download it again D:15:18
ikoniayou'll have to download KDE anyway15:18
ikoniaso just download kubuntu15:18
ikoniakubuntu15:18
mrsam96:\15:18
mrsam96kubuntu looklike ubuntu?15:18
ikoniano15:18
ikoniait looks like a kde desktop15:18
Reventlovbut under the hood, it's the same.15:18
mrsam96do u have link from the lastet kubuntu?15:18
tomermrsam96: It's the best choice in the long term. Just try a live-CD to figure out if you like KDE.15:18
ikoniakubuntu.com15:18
mrsam96<tomer> huum tnx .. can i use whit it look like ubuntu?15:19
mrsam96<ikonia>tnx :)15:19
ikoniamrsam96: no15:19
Reventlovlotus|xenial: same problem with lubuntu.15:19
ikoniamrsam96: unity looks different15:20
mrsam96<ikonia my mean is that ubuntu is base of debian...is kubunto too?15:20
lotus|xenialReventlov: must be something uefi mate, makes no sense so many Os refuse to boot15:20
tomermrsam96: Yes, same base.15:20
ikoniamrsam96: kubuntu/ubuntu exactly the same distribution, different desktops15:21
mrsam96tnx :)15:21
tomermrsam96: Try a Live-CD, then you don't need to decide right away if you want to keep your current Ubuntu installation. You may not prefer KDE in the end :)15:22
tomerah n/m he left15:22
lotus|xenialReventlov: wich laptop brand please?15:22
Reventlovacer, model: aspire E1515:22
faltuhow t15:23
illpassDoes anyone know why the ubuntu installer messed up the windows bootloader?15:23
lotus|xenialReventlov: ok leme look things up15:23
faltuhow to run android game15:23
Reventlovlotus|xenial: maybe i have to enable the secureboot and manually whitelist the ubuntu efi file.15:24
nicomachusfaltu: you'll have to use an android emulator15:24
ReventlovMaybe the « disabled secureboot » is a lie.15:24
lotus|xenialReventlov: ok can you please try with secureboot and fastboot off15:25
faltuplease tell how to setup android emulator15:25
illpassI installed ubuntu onto a USB HDD, and I told the installer to put the boot load there, but now I cant boot windows normally15:25
Reventlovlotus|xenial: it's what I tried from the beginning. I'll try doing that with secureboot enabled and ubuntu whitelisted15:26
faltunicomachus:please tell me how to add android emuletor15:27
tomerillpass: That shouldn't have happened. Can you maybe repair the Windows boot loader via Windows boot media?15:27
schnartzexit15:27
illpasstomer: I'll try that thanks. Can I report this bug somewhere?15:29
illpassI can remember ubuntu installer breaking my windows boot loader when I tell it not to when I used ubuntu before15:30
tomerillpass: No idea about bug reports, I'm sure someone else does. I have W10 and Xubuntu in the same system, both UEFI and they didn't have any conflicts.15:30
L41Nsup15:30
L41Nwhos in the party?15:30
napoleon1234hello, I have installed postfix on my ubuntu 14.04 and I was testing if the server sends emails but it didn't I get always "recipient rejected" but I didn't reject anything15:32
napoleon1234someone an Idea how I can fix this?15:32
nicomachusfaltu: this should tell you everything you need: http://sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-genymotion-in-ubuntu-14-04/15:32
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MonkeyDustnapoleon1234  there's also #ubuntu-server15:32
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napoleon1234ah thx MonkeyDust15:33
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researcher123is there a good open source programming language in Ubuntu?15:39
Dusan_Mitrovicthere's fpc15:39
Dusan_Mitroviclol15:39
Dusan_Mitrovicsudo apt-get install fpc15:40
researcher123can someone suggest an object oriented open source programming language for Ubuntu?15:41
Dusan_MitrovicLazarus15:41
auronandaceresearcher123: python15:41
Piciresearcher123: any of the big ones would be fine. python, java, perl, c++.15:42
tomerExcuse my ignorance, but what defines an "open source" programming language? One that isn't designed by commitee?15:42
Piciresearcher123: ruby, JS, etc, etc.15:42
Dusan_MitrovicWhy not use Microsoft Studio Code? It has Linux support15:42
CryptoSiDW: Failed to fetch http://swupdate.openvpn.net/apt/dists/trusty/Release Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/swupdate.openvpn.net_apt_dists_trusty_Release15:43
CryptoSiDE: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.15:43
CryptoSiDhow can i fix this?15:43
help0ihey guys15:43
CryptoSiDi mailed openvpn repo manager he say he cant reproduce the problem15:43
help0iso i got  a win7 host, ubuntu vm15:43
nicomachusCryptoSiD: can you paste the full output of apt-get update into a pastebin and link that here?15:44
help0ii would like to route win7 traffic thru ubuntu vm15:44
help0iand onto internet15:44
daftykinsCryptoSiD: delete those package lists then update15:44
daftykinshelp0i: VM on top of the win7 PC? no you can't do that15:44
CryptoSiDi already tryed daftykins, nicomachus sure gimme a sec15:44
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CryptoSiDnicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14006450/15:46
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CryptoSiDit was working fine on 16.04 for a while, but it started doing this last week15:47
stangelandHi. how do i clear the disk caches?15:48
daftykinsugh you're mixing versions, that's never wise15:48
CryptoSiDthere is no xenial on the apt repo of openvpn15:48
CryptoSiDlast one is trusty15:48
daftykinswell yeah, 'cause it's not out yet15:48
srulihi, ubuntu 14.04 I want to run script to run at shutdown but before logoff where do i add this script? it has to be before logoff as the script syncs some files inside ecryptFS15:48
CryptoSiDis there any way to fix this?15:49
zrneelyI'm having some trouble with gsettings. I'm using gnome-shell, and for some reason I can't set any of the gsettings properties from within tmux. I can read them just fine, and setting returns 0 for success, but has no effect. The commands work perfectly outside of tmux as well.15:49
nicomachusCryptoSiD: yea, because 16.04 isn't out yet. A lot of repos/ppas aren't caught up yet. you can either use a stable version of ubuntu or wait until the dev has released xenial versions of the package. this is a risk you take when using experimental builds.15:49
ekmanhello15:50
CryptoSiDok well i'll wait, no worries im already on last openvpn version anyway, thanks guys15:50
ekmani wat learn linux OS where should i start15:50
ekmani want...15:50
zrneelyDoes anyone know what could be causing that? My bashrc executes export $(dbus-launch) when tmux starts already.15:50
daftykinsekman: edx.org has a good LFS101x intro course15:51
ekmanare there any people can help to me ?15:51
daftykins(free)15:51
nicomachusand codecademy has a pretty decent command-line intro, also free.15:51
tomerekman: One of the best ways is to install a user friendly distribution like Ubuntu and start playing around with it. Other than that there are book and free online courses like e.g Linux Fundamentals at EDX.15:52
ekmanthanks guys15:53
ekmansee you late15:53
akikzrneely: do any of your x11 apps work from tmux?15:55
lcbetai need help to ubuntu15:57
JeDaon what15:58
MonkeyDustlcbeta  let's hear it, in onre line15:58
MonkeyDustone*15:58
lcbetaon typewriting15:58
MonkeyDustlcbeta  this is the ubuntu support channel, sure you want to be here?15:58
lcbetaand i cant found the software center15:58
zrneelyakik: yes, I can start x apps (nautilus, gnome-terminal, google-chrome, etc) from within tmux.15:59
MonkeyDustlcbeta  in the dash, top left, type 'software', then click software center15:59
lcbetayes  i m in15:59
k1llcbeta: what ubuntu is it exactly? and what is the exact issue?15:59
lcbetabut i cant download this15:59
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* k1l reminds on mate ubuntu not having the software center16:00
Bassemany way to use vb.net on ubuntu16:00
help0iok16:00
help0ianyone wanna help a brotha out16:01
help0ii need to have my win7host16:01
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help0iuse my ubuntu vm as gateway16:01
help0ito internet16:01
nicomachushelp0i: someone already told you that's not possible.16:01
OerHekshelp0i, easy on the enter16:01
help0iit's possible16:01
lcbetawho can download googlepinyin engine for ibus  apps16:01
help0ii just have add lol16:01
OerHekslcbeta, it is not in the softwarecenter, is it?16:02
lcbetai havent softwarecenter ,yes  its in but i cant download this16:03
tomerBassem: Maybe "Mono" for Linux?16:03
tlthelp0i, just get a usb network 'card'16:03
lcbetai can only see this app on web16:03
Bassemtomer, im downloading it right now but do i need any thing else or any other updates?16:04
lcbetahello?16:04
tlthelp0i, get a physical cabled ethernet adapter for USB, then make the vm bind directly to it. Insert internet -> usbethadapter in vm -> win716:05
tltor wifi usb adapter, but bind it to the vm directly16:05
tomerBassem: Sorry no idea, I've never used C#. Do you want to use it due to its familiarity or? Otherwise I would suggest C++ with e.g. Qt for application development.16:05
OerHekstomer,  he wants vb visual basic, microsoft stuff16:05
OerHeks:-D16:05
OerHeksblasfemie, if you ask me16:06
tomerHehe16:06
lcbetawho can send me softwarecenter or googlepinyin16:06
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k1l!cn | lcbeta16:07
ubottulcbeta: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:07
TJ-Bassem: does VisualStudio on Linux support VB?16:07
lcbetathanks  im speak englisj not very good16:07
k1llcbeta: maybe they can help you on your issues and its easier to communicate with them16:07
lcbetak1 thank you so much16:08
srulihi, ubuntu 14.04 I want to run script  at shutdown but before logoff where do i add this script? it has to be before logoff as the script syncs some files inside ecryptFS16:08
aguywithoptimusI wanna install linux. I always have a problem with Nvidia optimus, as I cannot disable it anywhere. I have a toshiba satellite p850-30v pspkbe with an i3 2350m processor and a Nvidia GT630M co processor.16:09
aguywithoptimusAny suggestions? I heard bumblebee is a plausible solution; I have weird display issues and heating issues running noveau16:09
aguywithoptimushelp would be greatly appreciated :)16:09
BassemTJ-, what do you mean16:09
k1laguywithoptimus: ubuntu got nvidia-prime which is the official successor of bumblebee now16:10
aguywithoptimuswill that work for me? I am a bit of a dumbarse with Linux, as I have never been able to use it16:10
k1laguywithoptimus: so installing the nvidia driver from ubuntu repos will ship nvidia-prime too16:10
aguywithoptimusAh okay16:10
aguywithoptimusso # apt-get install nvidia-prime ??16:11
daftykinsaguywithoptimus: try 14.04.3 and as above, nvidia-prime16:11
lcbetaanyone can help me in the cn16:11
daftykins"in the cn" = what?16:12
daftykinsoh16:12
daftykins!cn16:12
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:12
MonkeyDustlanguage barrier16:12
lcbetain chinese16:12
k1laguywithoptimus: see the "prop. drivers" tab in the system-settings -> software and updates16:12
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aguywithoptimushow do I reply on IRC?16:13
aguywithoptimusdo I just enter the username16:14
daftykinsyes begin typing a nickname then press tab to auto complete16:14
k1laguywithoptimus: if you start with the username the user will get a hightligt16:14
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srulican anyone help with where to put a script to exec on shutdown before logoff?16:14
lcbetahow to install drivers on the raspberry pi216:15
k1llcbeta: what drivers?16:15
k1llcbeta: so you are running ubuntu mate on the rpi2?16:15
lcbetathe raspberrt pi 216:15
aguywithoptimusk1l thanks. I have always used MBR for booting, should I switch to UFEI for the ubuntu install (currently on Windows preparing and backing stuff up, as I have only just gone on Xmas break from studying at Uni)16:15
lcbetayes16:15
daftykinslegacy and EFI, MBR and GPT ;)16:15
aguywithoptimuslegacy ***16:16
lcbetaim running ubuntu mate on the rpi216:16
lcbetaso  next  what can i do16:16
daftykinslcbeta: #ubuntu-arm16:16
lcbetaok16:16
Bassemany way to make titlebar bigger16:16
k1laguywithoptimus: ubuntu works with both, efi or legacy(bios) boot. but you need to stick to the same that the installed windows uses if you dont want to reinstall windows.16:16
lcbeta#ubuntu-arm16:16
daftykinsno you join it, don't type it16:16
aguywithoptimusk1l I am ditching Windows. I am studying Computing Science at Uni, so it will probably be of more use16:17
TJ-Bassem: Microsoft publish VisualStudio for Linux; have you installed it to see if it supports the VB functionality you require?16:17
zboubyhi all i have an issue with my nginx as a reverse proxy16:18
k1laguywithoptimus: if you will end up with a ubuntu only use: choose what you like. switching to legacy boot will bring the old setup most are used to. but ubuntu works with efi, too16:18
zboubythe problem is that i cannot acess the website16:18
BassemTJ-, i didnt install it hope you can give em the link16:18
k1laguywithoptimus: i personally use legacy dualboot on my main laptop.16:18
zboubythis one is only accessible when i execute a CURL from my reverse proxy to the website16:18
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zboubyand after around 5mn, the website become unreachable again16:19
zboubydo someone can help me regarding this issue ?16:19
k1laguywithoptimus: but if you have spare time anyway it would be a good point to learn the efi stuff. since its gonna be there for the near future.16:19
LukeI installed mercurial on ubuntu vivid via pip (because I needed a later version). anyone know where that gets installed to?16:20
aguywithoptimusk1l I have another machine that I will keep Windows on. Is EFI better than legacy? I have never used EFI16:20
aguywithoptimusk1l also, thanks for the help too!16:21
k1laguywithoptimus: if you have some time to read yourself into that make a efi setup. if you need a system asap just choose legacy in bios and make a mbr install (if your bios got that option)16:22
k1l!efi | aguywithoptimus16:23
ubottuaguywithoptimus: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:23
TJ-Bassem: see https://code.visualstudio.com/16:25
aguywithoptimusubottu k1l thanks for the advice16:25
ubottuaguywithoptimus: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:25
ubuntouristNow konversation is failing me... But that's not (yet) why I'm here today.16:26
aguywithoptimusafk16:28
ubuntouristIt's what SHOULD be a simple question: Which. module. does. a. device. use?  Google has sent me to lsusb, lshw, lspci, modprobe, modinfo, grepping modules.aliases, etc.16:28
BassemTJ-, yes i downloaded it but that is only code,i want a form editing16:28
tomerBassem: What do you intend to do with VB net?16:29
ubuntouristIsn't there a simple way to say "Give me the  filename of the driver that controls 046d:c404?"16:29
k1lubuntourist: depends. on. the. exact. device. and. used. ubuntu. version.16:29
TJ-Bassem: Ahhh, OK, I'm surprised there is no forms editor though that is the area where MS tools were always strong16:29
TJ-ubuntourist: Yes16:29
k1lubuntourist: so usb device? use -v on lsusb then16:30
ubuntouristkll: Ubuntu Studio, wily, Logitech Trackman Wheel (046d:c404).16:30
BassemTJ-, yes16:31
k1lubuntourist: try "usb-devices" in terminal16:32
srulii need my script to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.0416:33
ubuntouristk1l: Did the lsusb -v (before coming here).  It gives me a lot of information but nothing that matches "ls -R /lib/modules".16:33
TJ-ubuntourist: "sudo lshw -businfo -numeric | grep -i '046d:c404' "16:34
ubuntouristk1l: I want to add to /etc/rc.local a modprobe for the trackman16:36
srgI'm buying a wireless dongle and I'd like to make sure it's supported in both linux and win10. Can anyone help me? It's an Asus USB-N13 Wireless N.16:37
ubuntouristTJ- That gave bizarre results: The terminal overwrote it the line after the command a few times.  "reset" and tried again. Same overwriting effect.16:37
ubuntouristTJ- Just tried it without the grep and got a long list. So, apparently, there is no driver for the Trackman I'm using at the moment?16:39
hajkhi16:39
nicomachussrg: Are you looking at the A1 or the B1 model?16:40
hajkI am new with ubuntu/linux and i have to learn it for school. My task is to start "synaptic" and install "xfce-terminalemulator". i set the checkbox for it, how do i install it now?16:41
srgnicomachus: Not sure. I was going to buy it today from a local computer store - their website doesn't say B1 or A116:41
Bassemhow can i run mkv format on ubuntu16:41
daftykinsmatroska is a container, video in this container can likely be played with VLC16:41
daftykinshajk: there's a menu option to enact the changes set16:42
nicomachussrg: looks like the rev. A1 model comes with a ralink chipset, which is fine. howeveer, the rev_B1 model comes with a realtek chipset which uses the rtl8192cu driver, which is very problematic in ubuntu right now.16:42
nicomachussrg: I *cannot* recommend that realtek chipset for linux use (I currently have a dongle that uses it, and connection drops often)16:42
ubuntouristk1l: Thanks. "usb-devices" was what I was seeking.  (And the answer is, it uses a generic Human Interface Device driver: usbhid.)16:43
srgnicomachus: Ahh, ok. Thank you very much! Is there a dongle you'd recommend? It's for a wireless-g network (yeah, it's old)16:43
nicomachussrg: I have a personal preference for Panda Wireless, because they are well-supported in linux, but basically anything that doesn't use that realtek chipset should work fine.16:44
ubuntourist(Now to figure out why konversation's gone off the rails.  Ta-ta.)16:45
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hajkin synaptic i cant hit the apply button, did i start synaptic in a wrong way? I just typed synaptic in the terminal16:51
ioriahajk, what are you looking for ?16:51
hajki have to install "xfce-terminalemulator" via synaptics for school. I am completely new to ubuntu/linux16:52
ralpheeeewhen i try to start teamviewer i get "mkdir: cannot create director"16:52
ioriahajk, you can't find anything with that word in Synaptic ...  you mean xfce4-terminal ? alias the terminal for xfce ?16:53
willingtonCan I connect to a VPN  without openVPN?16:53
ioria!info xfce4-terminal16:53
ubottuxfce4-terminal (source: xfce4-terminal): Xfce terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 336 kB, installed size 2087 kB16:53
nicomachuswillington: you can...16:53
willingtonreasonably? :P I have a very minimal distro, with no package manager, and I don't know how to do it16:54
hajkioria, i can find the xfce-terminal and i can click the box for (remember for installation), but i cant hit the apply button on the top.16:54
willingtonI also asked about this earlier today , but I'm stuck16:54
MonkeyDustwillington  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue16:54
nicomachuswillington: why wouldn't you want to use openVPN? it's the most secure by far16:54
ioriahajk, sudo synaptic16:55
sruliTJ-: can you please help? i need my script to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.0416:55
hajkioria, what stands sudo for?16:55
ioriahajk, super do :)16:55
srulihajk: superuser do16:55
MonkeyDustgksu for gui programs16:55
ioriahajk, like man and superman16:56
hajkioria, thank you very much, it worked, and now finally understand this sudo^^16:56
ioriahajk, you cannot install stuff without the 'sudo' rights ... :þ16:56
willingtonMonkeyDust: doesn't exist, http://pastebin.com/rtX0HVXM16:56
ioriahajk, you 're welcome16:57
MonkeyDustwillington  then it's not ubuntu... what's the output of   lsb_release -sd16:57
mcphailhajk: note MonkeyDust's advice, and use gksu rather than sudo. sudo has a few bugs when it comes to launching graphical programs. (Or launch synaptic from the menu, where it should be set up correctly)16:57
willingtonnicomachus: I'd love to use it, but I have no package manager, and very little tools on my system to build it myself (e.g. Make)16:57
willingtonOh oops, I thought I was on ##linux16:58
willingtonMy fault!16:58
hajkioria, makes sense16:58
willingtonthank you anyway16:58
ioriahajk, note the MonkeyDust comment .... for graphical software you use 'gksu' ....16:59
Bassemis there something like internet download manager?16:59
hajkmcphail, as long the teacher asks for sudo, i have to use it, for me personally i will remember your comment, thank you16:59
mcphailhajk: sudo _will_ break your system for graphical apps16:59
mcphail!gksu | hajk17:00
ubottuhajk: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:00
mcphail..argh - that factoid needs updated17:00
hajkmcphail, i am running ubuntu via virtualbox on a mac. whats the worst case scenario that can happen?17:00
mcphailhajk: The files in your home directory can be assigned to root, rather than your own user, making it impossible to log in. It is generally possible to fix, but a real pain in hte neck to do so17:01
hajkmcphail, ok thank you i wont use sudo in the future anymore.17:02
mcphailhajk: sudo is fine for command-line apps, though ;)17:02
hajkmcphail, i think i have to work further into linux to understand all the differences, like i said i just started right now using linux17:03
mcphailhajk: the "sudo" thing is an oddity - lease don't think Linux is genrally as annoying as that. Really, we should have fixed the sudo bug 10 years ago17:04
ubottubug 10 in Launchpad itself "It says "displaying matching bugs 1 to 8 of 8", but there is 9" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017:04
mcphail!botsnack17:05
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!17:05
mcphailstupid bot...17:05
ioriahajk, you can check your home folder with ls -al ~     all the files and folder should be owned by the user not by root17:06
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ioriahajk, if you have some doubts , please pastebinit it17:08
hajkioria, its all used by the user exept drwxr-xr-x  317:08
ioriahajk, paste the whole line17:08
utu8oanyone try the new Unreal Tournament game for Linux yet?17:09
hajkioria, can you give me the shortcut for copy and paste?17:09
MonkeyDustutu8o  #ubuntu-offtopic17:09
ioriahajk, it's just a line ... you can paste here17:09
ioria!paste17:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:09
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hajk!paste17:10
mcphailhajk: just highlight the text with your mouse and then paste it here with the middle button on your mouse (as long as it is just 1 line)17:10
hajkdrwxr-xr-x17:11
marchesinihi! im trying do some stuff on the raspberry pi with ubuntu core, but the new package manager "snappy" doesn't have the package apache, lighhtp, glassfish or mysql... how can i install this apps on my raspb?17:11
hajki feel a little stupid right now, not knowing what to do17:11
ioriahajk, no, should be like this    '  drwxr-xr-x  4 root   root           4096 Nov 24 08:22 ..    '17:12
mcphailmarchesini: yu may want to joing the #snappy channel for specific advice. they do things a bit differently in snappy-land17:12
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marchesinitks mcphail17:12
hajkdrwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 Nov 28 09:47 ..17:12
mcphailhajk: please don't feel stupid. You're doing fine17:13
ioriahajk, it's the /home, don't worry17:13
ioriahajk, the /home it's not your home  /hme/user .   I'ts owned by root17:13
ioriahajk, so is root root17:13
mcphailhajk: the best way to learn about Ubuntu is to get in there and break it. And you haven't broken anything yet ;)17:14
hajkioria, mcphail, thanks for oyur help i will try my best learning to use linux propeprly. i have to leave now, but i am shure i will nee some help soon :)17:16
mcphailhajk: enjoy!17:16
mrsam96hi...i wanna see a local site but i cant and see this problem... To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.17:22
Bassemis there something like Internet download manager?17:22
ioriamrsam96, firefox ?17:24
MonkeyDustBassem  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-download-managers-available-in-ubuntu.html17:25
Bassemhow can i run MKV video format17:25
mrsam96ioria yeah and chrum17:25
MonkeyDustBassem  with vlc17:26
ioriamrsam96, you mean chromium ?17:26
BYoungHi! I need to make all new users auto add to dialout group. Is this possible?17:26
TJ-BYoung: yes. see "man 5 adduser.conf"17:26
mrsam96<ioria> yeah17:27
mrsam96plz solve my problem very neccessary for me17:27
BYoungThanks!17:27
ioriamrsam96, dpkg -l flashplugin-installer17:27
mrsam96ioria : flashplugin-in 11.2.202.554 amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin install17:28
TJ-BYoung: set EXTRA_GROUPS as appropriate, and ensure ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=117:28
ioriamrsam96, can you pastebinit  it ?17:29
mrsam96Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold17:29
mrsam96| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend17:29
mrsam96|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)17:29
mrsam96||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description17:29
mrsam96+++-==============-============-============-=================================17:29
mrsam96ii  flashplugin-in 11.2.202.554 amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin install17:29
ioriamrsam96, it's installed and should work ... but it's a bit deprecated17:30
MonkeyDustmrsam96  next time, use !pastebin17:30
mrsam96oh srry ok17:30
ioriamrsam96, have you activated it in FF ?17:31
BassemMonkeyDust, No suitable decoder module:17:31
BassemVLC does not support the audio or video format "hevc". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.17:31
mrsam96<ioria>no im fresh user what is the ff?17:31
ioriamrsam96, Fire Fox17:31
HoloIRCUser2nuvre are you here17:32
mrsam96<ioria no how can i do it?>17:32
ioriamrsam96, about:addons    in the ff bar , and check plugins17:33
MonkeyDustBassem  try to convert it to something readable... use winff or so17:33
mrsam96<ioria> so wait to chek it17:33
ioriamrsam96, maybe ( idk why) is set to 'Never Activate'17:33
BassemMonkeyDust, how can i use winff17:34
mrsam96<ioria> i cant find it :(17:34
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ioriamrsam96, sudo updatedb    and   locate libflashplayer17:35
MonkeyDustBassem  it'sz in the repo's, simply install, then use it17:35
mrsam96<ioria> ok wait17:36
mrsam96sudo updatedb    and   locate libflashplaye.....its dosnot work in terminal17:37
ioriamrsam96,  two commands ....17:37
ioriamrsam96, sudo updatedb17:37
ioriamrsam96, locate libflashplayer17:37
mrsam96sudo updatedb cant find this command17:38
ioriamrsam96,  cat /etc/issue17:38
mrsam96Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l17:39
ioriamrsam96,   which updatedb17:40
mrsam96what?17:41
mrsam96sudo updatedb>>>> cant find this command17:41
ioriamrsam96,   dpkg -l mlocate17:42
mrsam96so where do i copy that? can i copy in pv?17:43
ioriamrsam96,   sudo apt-get install pastebinit17:43
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ioriamrsam96,   please, keep it in the channel17:44
mrsam96huuum17:44
mrsam96ok17:44
mrsam96i cant install print bin17:45
mrsam96pastebin*17:45
ioriamrsam96,  why ?17:45
mrsam96i dont know...i use for command17:45
mrsam96just it but cant install17:46
mrsam96but it is without error :o17:46
ioriamrsam96,  you can't install at all ... i mean anything ?17:47
Bassemis there some tool that show network traffic bandwidth17:47
mrsam96no i install some thing but i think pastebin is install but i cant find it17:47
mrsam96<Bassem>wireshack17:47
ioriamrsam96,   dpkg -l mlocate   | pastebinit17:47
ioriamrsam96,   it will give you an url   .... post it here17:48
mrsam96http://paste.ubuntu.com/14008869/17:48
mrsam96yeah17:48
Bassemmrsam96, dos it have like desktop widget17:49
mrsam96<Bassem> im not sure17:49
ioriamrsam96,   and you get 'not found'  when you run  sudo updatedb17:49
ioria?17:49
Bassemmrsam96, i want some thing that show me the bandwidth all the time17:50
mrsam96ioria> yeah17:50
ioriamrsam96,     locate17:51
mrsam96<Bassem> if u want this program comeback say to me plz...i need the same program17:51
mrsam96locate: no pattern to search for specified17:51
Bassemmrsam96, what do you mean17:51
JrJ  :)17:51
ioriamrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so17:52
mrsam96ioria whats that?17:52
mrsam96its url?17:52
ioriamrsam96, locate = find a file   the file to find is =  libflashplayer.so17:53
mrsam96<Bassem>search ti find ur program and say to me ur result17:53
Bassemmrsam96, im searching already before i ask her17:53
mrsam96<ioria> use it and then17:53
ioriamrsam96, what's the output  ?17:54
mrsam96<Bassem>so i cant help u im look like u new user :)17:54
mrsam96<ioria>nothing17:54
ioriamrsam96, ls -l /usr/bin/updatedb17:54
mrsam96lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 دسامب 14 18:11 /usr/bin/updatedb -> /etc/alternatives/updatedb17:55
ioriamrsam96, you have that file.....17:55
mrsam96<ioria> so?17:55
ioriamrsam96, so, it's impossible that says 'command not found'17:56
mrsam96<ioria> swear god not found :(17:56
mrsam96give me command again to test it17:56
ioriamrsam96, ls -l /etc/alternatives/updatedb17:57
lotuspsychjeBassem: use conky for network widgets n stuff17:57
mrsam96lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 دسامب 14 18:10 /etc/alternatives/updatedb -> /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate17:58
syntroPii killed Xorg, now ubuntu kernel is completely unresponsive showing red rectangle and beeping, not even sysrq works... how can i unmount my usb hdd and reboot now?   help!17:58
ioriamrsam96, ls -l /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate17:58
mrsam96-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43768 نوامب 18  2014 /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate17:59
ioriamrsam96, sudo updatedb17:59
ux2hello17:59
ux2anyone from India that is awake can help with indian languages? package17:59
mrsam96<ioria> i use it but dont see anything output18:00
ioriamrsam96, no output  ... it's normal18:00
ioriamrsam96, you said 'command not found'18:00
syntroPiany idead howto regain control?18:00
mrsam96<ioria> huum..so what can i do?18:01
ioriamrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so18:01
mrsam96<ioria> at first i cant foun it18:01
ioriamrsam96, ok18:01
ioriamrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so18:01
mrsam96.18:02
syntroPihow can i unmount my usb hdd without data loss?18:02
Aguywithoptimushello18:02
mrsam96here:: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so18:02
AguywithoptimusI have installed the nvidia-prime package using apt, what do I do now?18:02
srulii have a script i need to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.0418:03
syntroPinvidia dribers is pure bs18:03
ux2sruli: yo ufrom India?18:03
ioriamrsam96,   ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/18:03
sruliux2: no, what makes u think that?18:03
a3gisHello! I am a 3rd year undergraduate student who's looking for a mentor to learn C++. Basically I have never done any C/C++ before, and I would like to get into it. It would be great if someone knowledgeable in the subject could guide me (e.g. by email) into what I should study, if time allows :)18:03
mancomunadoNueva Trova18:03
mrsam96flashplugin-alternative.so18:04
AguywithoptimusI have Optimus. Noveau is absolute shite, the mouse flickers and disappears and it is unusable18:04
nicomachus!in | ux218:04
ubottuux2: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India18:04
AguywithoptimusI was told by k1l earlier to install it18:04
lotuspsychje!language | Aguywithoptimus18:04
ubottuAguywithoptimus: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:04
ux2nicomachus: it is dead18:04
nicomachusux2: this channel can help you, but only in English.18:04
ioriamrsam96,   please, highlight or iìll miss it18:04
TJ-ioria: I think you may be chasing the wrong problem. Originally mrsam96 said the site reported "...version 11.5.0 or greater required ..." and the installed version is 11.2.xxx ... so it could be flashplayer itself executed code that reported the warning, or else the Javascript in the web page did.18:04
ux2nicomachus: where are u from?18:05
Aguywithoptimusis there any alternative to nvidia-prime then? I cannot disable optimus in the bios or anything18:05
ioriaTJ- .... mmmmm18:05
nicomachusux2: USA. You can ask your question in English if you'd like, otherwise I'm sorry but we can't help.18:05
mrsam96<ioria> flashplugin-alternative.so18:05
TJ-ioria: possible get mrsam96 to test on the Adobe test web page to find out if any flash does work?18:06
mrsam96<TJ-> i can open this site with windows but in ubuntu i cant18:06
ioriamrsam96,  you said you have no Shackwave in FF plugins page ...18:06
mrsam96<TJ-> i can open all of site with adobe i think,...but i cant open this site18:06
ioriaTJ-  good idea18:07
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: you can only change it with nvidia-optimus18:07
TJ-mrsam96: With Firefox visit https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/18:07
syntroPii hate hate hate nvidia18:07
mrsam96<ioria> i saied say to me exactly untill find it18:07
lotuspsychjesyntroPi: please keep it support related18:07
ioriamrsam96,  so flash, in general, is working ? it's a problem of version ?18:08
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje do I just get that using apt? syntroPi ... I do too, but being a first year ug in computer science, I need something that works and I have no money to buy something else. Windows left me at the end of my tether18:08
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-prime | Aguywithoptimus18:09
ubottuAguywithoptimus: nvidia-prime (source: nvidia-prime): Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1 (wily), package size 10 kB, installed size 114 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:09
TJ-mrsam96: According to Adobe's 'Test Flasg Playaer' page they don't supply a version of Flash for Linux greater than 11.2 https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/18:09
mrsam96<ioria> i think it working but cant open this site...i use vcenter on my vmware...and vcenter give me a site to use but i cant open it18:09
mrsam96<TJ->wait to check18:09
TJ-mrsam96: unless you're using Chrome, or Chromium18:09
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsyje but what do I do with it?18:09
ioriamrsam96,  in this case you could use pepper with chromium ... or enable Canonical Partner and install adobe-flashplugin18:09
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: after install, you need to open nvidia-settings and set to performance mode18:10
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje but what do I do with it?18:10
mrsam96<TJ-> cant open18:10
AguywithoptimusI am wondering where to execute it from18:10
AguywithoptimusI have never really used Linux much... I am a bit lost :(18:10
TJ-mrsam96: "can't open" what?18:10
gr7345nw61Anyone here running ubuntu on a chromebook ?18:10
ioria!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | mrsam9618:10
ubottumrsam96: pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.7ubuntu1 (wily), package size 10 kB, installed size 69 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:10
mrsam96<ioria>  install chromium?18:11
ikoniagr7345nw61: depends what model chromebook18:11
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: dash and open nvidia-settings icon18:11
gr7345nw61Looking to buy an acer chromebook18:11
ioriamrsam96,  you said you have it18:11
syntroPinvidia driver rendered my kernel *completely* unresponsive ith drives mointes rw! what can i do now? i dont want to pull the power... damn i hate nvidia18:11
mrsam96<ioria>  yeah wait to test it18:11
mrsam96<TJ cant open ur link18:11
lotuspsychjesyntroPi: instead of cursing, please focus on the issue18:11
ikoniagr7345nw61: so ubuntu isn't officially released on the chromebooks,18:11
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje no icon here...should I apt install it18:12
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: depends wich driver your on?18:12
TJ-mrsam96: You're in Iran - maybe your country or ISP blocks those connections?18:12
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje noveau at the moment18:12
syntroPilotuspsychje any idea howto regain control without sysrq?18:12
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: that wont work, you need an nvidia-driver18:12
mrsam96<TJ->yeah i thing blobk ur link here18:12
ikoniamrsam96: what link is blocked exactly18:12
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje so what do i do to obtain it? Use the driver utility in settings or apt-get install something18:13
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lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: check additional drivers section18:13
mrsam96ikonia> adobflashplayer18:13
ikoniamrsam96: thats not a link18:13
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: wich chipset and ubuntu version you have?18:13
ikoniamrsam96: what LINK is blocked18:13
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje ... any one in particular, there are several18:13
mrsam96<ikonia>like of site adob18:14
ioriamrsam96,  can you paste the entire link you want to reach ?18:14
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje ... 14.04.3 ubuntu 64 bit. Uhm... as for the chipset. Gimme five minutes18:14
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: you could try nvidia-34018:14
ikoniamrsam96: EXACTLY what LINK are you using18:14
syntroPii dont want to loose data, how to reboot?18:14
mrsam96https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/18:14
mrsam96<ioria> after search i see ...server not found18:15
ikoniamrsam96: ok - so if you use the ubuntu software center, you can install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"18:15
syntroPinoone has got an idea?18:15
ikoniamrsam96: that will install the last official release of Flash from adobe on linux which was 2011 I think18:15
lotuspsychjeikonia: ive read adobe fixxed some new updates for linux recently18:16
ikoniasyntroPi: what's your issue, you appear in distress18:16
mrsam96flashplugin-nonfree  i cant find it but i can find adobeflashplugin18:16
ikonialotuspsychje: official docs say it's still dead18:16
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje awesome! Thanks. Will give it a try18:16
ikoniamrsam96: perfect, use that18:16
mrsam96<ikonia> im using that18:16
ikoniamrsam96: then what's the problem ?18:16
mrsam96<ikonia> but cant open my site18:16
lotuspsychjeAguywithoptimus: after install driver,reboot and enable performance mode in nvidia-settings18:16
ikoniamrsam96: what is your site ?18:16
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syntroPiikonia i lost control over the kernel with drives mounted; sysrq does not work18:17
ikoniasyntroPi: lost control of the kenrel ?? what18:17
mrsam96<ikonia> im use vcenter...vcenter create a link with https and give me to to use...but cant open it18:17
ikoniasyntroPi: why don't you just explain the issue18:17
ikoniamrsam96: as in vmware ?18:17
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje thanks for the help! Appreciate it :)18:17
mrsam96<ikonia>yeah yeah yeah18:17
lotuspsychje!recovery | Aguywithoptimus if things go wrong after reboot18:18
ubottuAguywithoptimus if things go wrong after reboot: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:18
ikoniamrsam96: what happens when you try to use the URl in your browser18:18
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syntroPii killed xorg now it displays a red rectangle and beeps ecery ten seconds or so. system completely unresponsive wont take any keyboard inpit18:18
ikoniakeep in mind vcetner and vcloud can have problems with old versions of flash18:18
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje cheers for the info.18:18
ikoniasyntroPi: how did you kill xorg ? and where is the red rectangle ?18:19
syntroPion the screen i killed -kill xorg18:19
ikoniaif you press numlock or capslock does the numlock/capslock light go on / off on your keyboard18:19
mrsam96<ikonia> isee this.....this site use adobeflash player 11.5 and yo have to install 11.5 or later18:20
ikoniamrsam96: then your plugin version is too old18:20
ikonia11.2 was the last release from adobe I think18:20
syntroPiikonia nope does not18:20
mrsam96<ikoni yeah 11.2 srry18:20
JrJReinstall..18:20
ikoniasyntroPi: ok, so power off is the only real option18:20
ioriamrsam96,   try to enable Canonical Partner in Software and Updates and install adobe-flashplugin18:21
ikoniasyntroPi: you could try to ssh to the machine to make sure the network stack is dead too18:21
syntroPifuuu i have data mounted rw18:21
ikoniamrsam96: vmware requires 11.5 or later18:21
Aguywithoptimuslotuspsychje just rebooting18:21
ikoniamrsam96: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=200508318:21
mrsam96<ikonia> yeah actually.18:22
ikoniamrsam96: please stop changing facts18:22
mrsam96<ikonia> whats that?18:22
ikoniamrsam96: basically flash is dead on linux, in the real world18:22
mrsam96lioria: i do this18:22
srulican someone please help me? i have a script i need to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.0418:23
mrsam96<ikonia> cant open ur link18:23
ikoniamrsam96: it says you need flash 11.5 or later18:23
tltsruli, what does the script do?18:23
ioriamrsam96,   i can open it and i'm 11.218:24
ikoniamrsam96: can you see this link pastebin.ubuntu.com ?18:24
mrsam96<ikonia>yeah18:24
ikoniamrsam96: put the contents of "dpkg -l | grep -i flash" into that site, click submit and show us the URL it gives you18:25
mrsam96<ikonia> ok18:25
srulitlt: i need it to sync a few files, i have the script it works fine when i test it, the problem is i need it to run before ecryptFS dismount which happens before logoff, when adding the script to run levels even as K01 it runs after logoff, i need the script to stop the logoff until it completes and then continue with shutdown18:25
tltsruli, sounds like something you want to do manually. Do you really want a script like that hard-set into every shutdown?18:26
tltmake a script that you run manually instead perhaps18:26
mrsam96<ikonia> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14009947/18:26
srulitlt: yes it has to run without me or other users remebering to execute it before shutdown18:27
syntroPigosh i never have seen a linux kernel messed up so badly. completely lost control.freaking scary18:27
ikoniamrsam96: have you restarted your browser18:27
ikoniasyntroPi: "lost control" what are you talking about18:27
syntroPithat i had to pull the plug18:27
mrsam96<ikonia>restart it and then?18:27
syntroPihope all my data is uncorrupted18:28
ikoniamrsam96: have you restarted firefox since you installed that package ?18:28
ikoniasyntroPi: you appear to just be saying random things like "lost control of the kernel" over and over, implying that you "had control" over it18:28
mrsam96<ikonia>i do any thing...just install ubuntu and install vmware18:28
ikoniasyntroPi: the kernel has hung, you killed software agressively, it can happen18:28
ikoniamrsam96: did you restart your firefox browser after you installed that package yes/no18:29
ioriamrsam96,   can you open this https://vimeo.com/26152501  ?18:29
syntroPiyeah my fault but anyhow it shouldnt18:29
mrsam96<ikonia>yeah18:29
mrsam96ioria: wait18:30
ikoniasyntroPi: you hit software with a hammer, it can have a bad impact18:30
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mrsam96ioria: write connecting.... but i cant see any reaction18:31
tltsruli, other users won't benefit from your particular user's ecryptfs unencrypted actions though18:31
tltunless other users all use the same account18:31
syntroPisure xorg could go to hell but not the whole kernel! i bet it had to do with nvidia binary18:31
srulitlt: i need to add the script to each user account18:32
mrsam96<ikonia> i think never cant solve my problem :(18:32
ikoniasyntroPi: you have no idea what caused18:32
ikoniasyntroPi: I'd advise you to not make these sort of statements when getting help unless you know / understand the words you're saying18:32
mrsam96<ikonia> i really dont like come back to shit windows18:32
ikoniamrsam96: please don't swear18:32
ioriamrsam96,   more simple, can you open any flash videos ?18:32
mrsam96<ioria> yeah i can18:32
mrsam96<ioria> LOOKLIKE THIS http://www.aparat.com/18:33
lotuspsychjechromium to the rescue for flash issues18:33
syntroPiok trying to investigate this scary accisent... where would rhe kernel write its last syslog message in such a case?18:34
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ikoniasyntroPi: in the syslog18:34
tltsruli, this is for bash logout but perhaps relevant? https://serverfault.com/questions/318813/how-to-run-a-script-on-logging-out18:36
ioriamrsam96,  ok,,,, you can try with pepperflashplugin-nonfree  in chromium or enable adobe-flashplugin18:36
tltexcept it'd run for each closing of a virtual terminal while in X also possibly18:36
mrsam96<ioria> how can do this18:36
srulitlt: seen that its good for ssh logout18:37
ioriamrsam96,  sudo apt-get install  pepperflashplugin-nonfree18:37
ikoniaif you can see that flash video - but not your vmware one, it means the plug is too old18:37
ikoniaas the error message and knowledge base article says18:37
mrsam96<ioria> E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfre .... i cant install18:38
ioria!!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree18:38
ioria!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree18:38
ubottupepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.7ubuntu1 (wily), package size 10 kB, installed size 69 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:38
ioriamrsam96,  you miss an 'e' at the end18:39
mrsam96ikonia> so if y plug is old..what can i do?18:39
mrsam96<ioria> no for write for u miss  e18:39
ikoniamrsam96: try the pepperflash plugin - or don't use linux to manage your ESXI18:39
korst3nHey, a package i'm trying to install requires libavcodec-extra-56. I see that it's only available on vivid but I'm on trusty. Would there be a problem if i downloaded it and installed on my machine?18:39
mrsam96ioria...yeah is currect i forget e....i install it18:40
ioriamrsam96, mg18:40
mrsam96<ikonia> install that so?18:40
lotuspsychjekorst3n: best to use package versions for your ubuntu version18:40
ikoniamrsam96: sorry I don't understand18:41
mrsam96<ioria> install that18:41
lotuspsychjekorst3n: whats your end goal exactly?18:41
ioriamrsam96, test it in Chromium18:41
mrsam96what can i do after install pepper18:41
mrsam96oh ok18:41
mrsam96what can i do after install pepp18:41
ioriamrsam96, open Chromium18:41
tltsruli, 14.04 uses upstart I guess, perhaps you'll find some clues here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/18:41
mrsam96<ioria> fo  test it i have to test with local ip...then im Go out from chanell ok?18:41
syntroPiikonia there is lots of nv-kern-close regieser dumps18:41
korst3nlotuspsychje: right.. i'm trying to install attract-mode, a mame frontend. i'll see if installing previous versions of libavcodec-extras will suffice.18:42
ioriamrsam96, what ?18:42
ikoniasyntroPi: ok ?18:42
lotuspsychje!pinning | korst3n maybe this can also help?18:42
ubottukorst3n maybe this can also help?: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:42
mrsam96 for connect to my esxi i have to connect with private ip...so i have to left ypu here...COME BACK SOON after test18:42
mrsam96understand? :)18:42
korst3nlotuspsychje: cheers! i'll check it.18:42
ikoniamrsam96: no18:42
ub_ubuntubest place to start learning linux kernel18:43
ioriamrsam96, really not, but go ahead18:43
lotuspsychjeub_ubuntu: #kernel18:43
mrsam96ioria>im using publick ip now....esxi in in the local network with private ip...i cant find it18:44
ub_ubuntu:)18:44
ioriamrsam96, ohhh18:44
mrsam96i have to use private ip too untill find it18:44
mrsam96ok?18:44
mrsam96:018:44
mrsam96:)18:44
ioriamrsam96, sure18:44
mrsam96Im come back and say to u my result :)18:44
syntroPiim not sure but i really think xorg froze because of nvifia, i killed it then and got lots of nvidia register dumps and even cpu sofz lockups18:47
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ikoniasyntroPi: so you understand the nv module is not the binary blob module18:47
mrsam96hi againt18:47
mrsam96n18:47
mrsam96i see this error again ::To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.18:48
ioriamrsam96, ok,  install Google Chrome18:48
mrsam96<ioria> so i think have problem with google chrum :(18:49
ioriamrsam96, if you get an error with that too, the problem is elsewhere18:49
mrsam96<ioria> gow can i download it?18:49
diverdudehi.... is there a log file which i can look in to see how active the network has been since last reboot? same with cpu and memory usage18:50
ikoniadiverdude: you could look at sar18:50
ikoniahowever ifconfig shows the interface stats18:50
ioriamrsam96, http://tecadmin.net/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu/18:50
ikoniathey get reset at reboot18:50
ub_ubuntuhow to remove zombies18:50
ikoniaub_ubuntu: reboot is the easy / quick way18:50
syntroPinvrm vm nv_kern_close is not from nvidia binsry?18:50
ikoniasyntroPi: they are normally the opensource modules18:50
ub_ubuntudoesnt help.18:51
ikoniaub_ubuntu: what do you mean doesn't help18:51
ub_ubuntueven after restart there is a zombie18:51
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ikoniaub_ubuntu: then you need to stop that process from starting18:51
syntroPiikonia i did not load them i have binary nvidia only18:51
ikoniaas a reboot cleares it down18:51
ikoniasyntroPi: then you need to black list them18:52
ub_ubuntuhow ?18:52
ioriamrsam96, it  uses 19 ... so far above 11.518:52
ikoniaok18:52
ikoniaub_ubuntu: what is the zombie process18:52
syntroPilsmod | grep nv just shows nvidia not nv or nouveau18:52
ikoniasyntroPi: so it's not loaded now18:52
ub_ubuntugsettings18:53
syntroPiwhy shoild it be loaded before? because i killed xoeg?18:53
mrsam96gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. i see it when i want to install that18:53
ikoniasyntroPi: I don't know - this is your box and "your in control of your kernel" work it through and look at senarios18:53
ikoniaub_ubuntu: how are you seeing this as a zombie ?18:54
mrsam96<ioria> i just download flash player plug in and dont enable it...may be i have to enable it   yeah?18:54
ioriamrsam96, maybe18:54
ub_ubuntuwhen i use top command it shows 1 zombie and then i use ps aux | grep Z18:55
ioriabrb18:55
mrsam96<ioria> how can i enable it18:55
mrsam96?18:55
syntroPii think it is the binary it even says [nvidia] behind the reg dumps18:55
ikoniaub_ubuntu: if you look at the launchpad.net you'll see this bug has come up a few times in ubuntu https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2013-05/msg00753.html18:55
ikoniait looks like it keeps getting fixed and re-introrduced18:55
ikoniaI wouldn't worry about it, a replacement one will spawn to take it's place18:55
ikoniafind the current bug and subscribe to it to wait for a fix18:55
ikoniaub_ubuntu: I see references to it from 2011 - all the way to 2014, so I'd bet money there is a current bug open for it18:56
ikoniaif not, open one18:56
sheepdogI have video coming out of one card, but no the other, lspci shows my card, where would I go to configure my monitors18:56
ub_ubuntuyeah. How do i do that ?18:57
ikoniaub_ubuntu: do what ?18:57
ub_ubuntuBug Report and Subscribe for it..18:57
ikonia!bugs | ub_ubuntu18:58
ubottuub_ubuntu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:58
ub_ubuntuokay19:00
syntroPiikonia, thanks for your help, anyhow i will try to investigate the logs further with patience and when i calmed down19:01
ub_ubuntuthanks ikonia19:02
ioriamrsam96, what did you do, sorry ? you downloaded what ?19:03
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pmaxkhi19:04
tdiesel_Hello!19:05
emgeeHey #ubuntu, is there a PPA floating around for a php7 curl?19:08
pmaxkhow thinks going in linux world?19:08
lotuspsychje!ppa | emgee19:08
ubottuemgee: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:08
lotuspsychje!discuss | pmaxk19:09
ubottupmaxk: Want to talk about Ubuntu but don't have a support question. Join #ubuntu-discuss, for other non-support discussion not Ubuntu related you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.19:09
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pmaxkOk19:09
emgeelotuspsychje: Thanks for the link, Lotus.19:12
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rduplainI realize that lucid is no longer supported, etc etc, but I'm interested in a `do-release-upgrade` on an older system. I'm getting "list of unauthenticated packages". I rewrote sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com, but still cannot get around the issue. Any tips?19:15
sjjennion my work system we have boxtrapper, is it or something like it available for ubuntu?19:16
lotuspsychjerduplain: is there a reason you dont wanna clean install?19:17
lotuspsychjesjjenni: can you tell us what it does?19:17
rduplainYes. It's a long-running remote server.19:17
lotuspsychjerduplain: like in remote takeover a pc?19:18
TJ-rduplain: after adding old-releases, did you redo "apt-get update" ?19:20
rduplainyes19:20
TJ-rduplain: what releases is it going from, and to ?19:21
rduplainlucid to precise19:22
todar#mint19:22
TJ-rduplain: did you add the -proposed or -backports and update ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ?19:23
rduplainTJ-: I have not. I just tried it. No package ubuntu-release-upgrader-core. update-manager-core already on latest version after apt-get update.19:28
TJ-rduplain: sometimes a do-release-upgrade from -backports is required, but I'm not seeing any binary packages for ubuntu-release-upgrader-core in lucid-{proposed,backports}. Maybe you can pastebin the output of do-release-upgrade you're seeing?19:29
zrneelyDoes anyone know why gsettings might not work in Tmux? I can read properties, but setting them has no effect (and no error). The commands work perfectly outside of Tmux.19:30
zrneelyFor reference, I'm using gnome-shell and have export $(dbus-launch) in my bashrc.19:30
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SimoniousI followed the instructions here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Ubuntu_.2814.04.3.29 starting with wget... and it boots, things are working, but apt-get update gives: http://pastebin.com/ZDFzADYq - I'm still poking at it, but I'd welcome suggestions to get apt-get working properly.19:36
ikoniaSimonious: your dns isn't working19:37
* Simonious ponders19:37
Simoniousikonia: will look into that, thanks.19:39
Ploneis there anything available for linux like citrix?19:42
ikonialtsp ?19:42
Plonewazzat?19:43
ikonialook it up, see if it's what you need/want19:43
Ploneah terminal server19:43
Plonethanks @ikonia19:43
* Plone goes off to googlify19:43
Plonenope19:44
Ploneit just serves linux servers19:44
Plonelooking to run windows os over linux19:44
Plonelike citrix19:44
ikoniathere is a cyrtix client for linux19:44
Ploneright, but you need a citrix server19:44
ikoniaas in from cytrix themselves19:44
ikonianot sure how dated it is now19:45
Piciikonia: Last I looked, they were still making modern versions of the client.19:45
PloneI want a linux server that can virtualize windows os and serve up to any clients19:45
Ploneprimarily osx19:45
Plonecitrix is expensive and requires win server with AD19:45
ikoniaPici: useful to know19:45
* Plone hates AD19:45
nicomachuseasy on the ENTER spam, Plone...19:45
Plone?19:46
gonzzorI need to add some iptables rules to the nat table and I'm currently using ufw. What would be the procedure? Add them to /etc/ufw/before.rules or can I mix in iptables-persitent safely?19:47
carreraGreetings  :)19:48
lotuspsychjehey carrera19:49
carreraI have a fresh install of ubuntu mate 15.10, I can login from tty1, I can ssh in, but when I try to login from LightDM, I get "Failed to start session"19:50
ikoniacarrera: you said you had fixed this earlire19:50
ikoniaearlier19:50
ikonia12:08 < carrera> ikonia, all I had to do was turn on BIOS Compatibility Module19:50
ikonia12:08 < carrera> ikonia, you don't know what you're talking about19:51
BigBlackCoffee#/k-on/19:51
carreraikonia, I managed to install 15.1019:52
carreraikonia, but not with the desktop as you told me to do19:52
ikoniaI didon't tell you to install anything19:52
carreraikonia, desktop wouldn't even boot because of the nouveau drivers19:52
ikoniaI asked you a question, you didn't answer, I backed away19:53
carreraikonia, so I downloaded desktop for nothing on a slow and paid by usage line19:53
ikoniaI didn't tell you to do that19:53
carreraikonia, I'm sorry then19:53
carreraikonia, someone here told me to do that19:53
carreraikonia, and they told me not to use the mini.iso19:54
ikoniaI don't think it's a requirement to use the mini.iso (personally) but it's up to you what you do19:54
carreraikonia, I hadn't slept for 2 days this morning and I was answering another question completely19:54
carreraikonia, well, someone here kind of told me off for trying to use it19:55
ikoniayou where just waffling on and then rude, but thats up to you19:55
carreraikonia, I only replied because you were condescending19:55
ikoniano, I wasn't, you didn't answer and I got bored of waiting and asking 3 times19:55
carreraikonia, I always try to be polite19:56
ikoniathats why you took the time to send me a rude pm too19:56
ikoniaeither way offtopic for this channel, apologies19:56
carreraask Mr. lotuspsychje, he knows me19:56
carreraikonia, what's wrong with you man, you bring a point up.  Out of respect, I reply, then you say it's offtopic19:57
lotuspsychjecarrera: whats going on?19:57
carreralotuspsychje, I dunno19:57
ikoniacarrera: it's my fault for referencing it, which is why I said it was off topic and apologized19:57
carreraI can login from tty1 and I can ssh in with no problems but I can NOT login from LightDM19:58
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Overlapgot stuck with grub219:58
lotuspsychjecarrera: graphics card chipset?19:58
Overlapspalsh image isn't changing !19:58
carreraNvidia 860m19:58
Overlapsplash*19:58
carreraoh, I installed nvidia-352-updates too19:58
carreraI x didn't even start with nouveau19:59
Beamboomjoin #gamingonlinux19:59
lotuspsychjecarrera: gtx 860m?19:59
carreraYes sir, GeForce GTX 860m19:59
carreraBeamboom, should I join that channel?19:59
lotuspsychjecarrera: thats an optimus card mate, you need to install nvidia-optimus20:00
BeamboomSorry my keyboard ignored my slash. Nevermind. :)20:00
lotuspsychjecarrera: then enable performance mode in nvidia-settings20:00
DirtyCajunif someone has a second i have a question.20:00
carreraikonia, oh, ok  :-)20:00
rduplainTJ-: I am unable to get dist-upgrade or do-release-upgrade to log why they are unable to authenticate the packages. I'm just going to give up and install a fresh OS. Thanks for your help!20:00
carreraBeamboom, no problem mate  :)20:01
DirtyCajunis mdadm and lvm2 still the correct tools to download to recover hdd like in this instruction? https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/faq/57920:01
lotuspsychjerduplain: would be more secure way :p20:01
TJ-rduplain: check the /var/log/dist-upgrade/ or is it /var/log/release-upgrade/ directories20:01
ikoniaDirtyCajun: if thats what the guide says20:02
carreraikonia, and I wasn't rude to you in PM, I just said I'm tired of your uppity condescending attitude20:02
carreraikonia, so please don't make me look like a rude man here20:02
ikoniacarrera: please drop it20:02
TJ-rduplain: authentication problems might be caused by a new Ubuntu archive key being required for 12.04. There was a key-change I recall some time ago now20:02
DirtyCajunikonia: it was just referring to 12.04. im using 15.10 and know lots has changed20:02
carreraikonia, as I said, I'm only replying20:02
rduplainI was looking for an explicit error saying that, but no indication of it.20:02
rduplainI looked in those /var/log directories, too.20:02
ikoniacarrera: as I said "it's offtopic, I'm sorry - please drop it"20:02
ikoniaDirtyCajun: those packages remain the sam420:03
ikoniasame20:03
rduplainNothing specific ...20:03
carreralotuspsychje, how can I enable perf mode from the command line?20:03
DirtyCajunok thank you. and lvm2 is part of initial install i believe but mdadm is not right?20:03
lotuspsychjecarrera: first you need to install nvidia driver, to boot your system20:03
ikoniaDirtyCajun:  I think both are there by default now, but it's not hard to install both20:04
OerHeksman nvidia-prime20:04
DirtyCajunill install on a VM and test. thanks for the help20:04
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RandomNoobhello guys i need your help. installed ubuntu on acer aspire e15. but when im booting it says no bootable device found. while installing i created swap area. ext4 for / and 1 gb for uefi.20:05
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: did you disable secureboot and fastboot?20:06
OerHekscarrera, if the 352 driver does not work, did you install > sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic20:06
RandomNooblotuspsychje where to find that options?  i dont have them in bios20:07
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: are you singleboot ubuntu or dualboot?20:07
RandomNoobsingle boot20:07
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: they should be in your bios, as your system is uefi20:07
RandomNoobthere was installed linpus i deleted and formated partitions while installing ubuntu20:07
RandomNoobyeah  i have boot mode UEFI and there is Legacy but not fastboot. secureboot is enabled. but im unable to change it.20:09
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: change to legacy20:09
carreraOerHeks, the driver works, cause LightDM comes up nicely20:09
RandomNoobsave and restart?20:09
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: RandomNoob secureboot must be disabled20:10
RandomNoobhow to disable. it is gray :S20:10
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: change to legacy20:10
RandomNoobi choosed legacy now i have gnu grub menu like terminal20:10
RandomNoobwhat to type?20:11
lotuspsychjeboot your ubuntu usb20:11
RandomNoobi have grub on uefi partition? and now i should just rebuild it ?20:12
ioriaRandomNoob, i'd reverse it ... to uefi , boot the live , and post a sudo parted -l20:13
carreraOerHeks, linux-headers-generic is already installed20:14
OerHeksoke, good check, no need to reinstall nvidia, sudo prime-switch nvidia # should update the config.20:15
DirtyCajunwhat exactly does postfix in mdadm do?20:16
RandomNoobguys i followed instruction. I set uped superuser password in bios and no under uefi im able to change secure boot20:16
RandomNoobwhish me luck hope it runs20:16
carreraOerHeks, /etc/modprobe.d is not a file20:17
carreraOerHeks, error: no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_conf20:17
nygmacan someone answer me a question about mbr and grub20:17
ikoniaDirtyCajun: alert you if a raid status changes20:18
ikoniaDirtyCajun: you don't need to worry about it for recovering a disk as you're trying to do20:18
DirtyCajunohhh ok.20:18
RandomNoobmaaan still not able to boot i disabled this secure boot20:18
ioriaRandomNoob, did you format the /boot/efi with fat32  ? ... and it should be the first partition /dev/sda120:19
carreraRandomNoob, I think you have to turn on your BIOS compatibility module20:19
lotuspsychjeRandomNoob: fastboot off, decureboot off and legacy, then F12 boot your ubuntu usb20:19
lotuspsychjesecureboot20:19
carreraRandomNoob, on American Megatrends its called CSM for Compatibility Support Module20:19
django_1hey all20:20
django_1how do screenshot on lubuntu?20:20
carreraHi django_120:20
JeDadjango_1: [IMP SRC]20:21
JeDaer20:21
JeDaIMP PRN20:21
fellipehi all! why does it happen? please help!! three identical 3g usb modem and only two /dev/serial/by-id ? http://pastie.org/1063271520:21
RandomNoobon legacy im getting gnu grub verion 0.97 like terminal.  i think i created uefi partition last one.20:21
ioriaRandomNoob, you did  a manual partitioning , right ?20:22
RandomNoobyes20:22
ioriaRandomNoob, boot the live , and post a sudo parted -l20:22
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RandomNoobman now it says on my usb its not bootable disk :(20:24
ioriaRandomNoob, you messed you bios ? :]20:24
RandomNoobno it said not bootable usb while i had legacy set. now i set uefi and im able to boot live20:25
ioriaRandomNoob, good20:25
RandomNoobwhat does that command ?20:25
RandomNoobsudo parted -l20:26
ioriaRandomNoob, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit20:26
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ioriaRandomNoob, it lists your partions20:26
ioria*partitions20:26
RandomNoobhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14012465/20:29
ioriaRandomNoob, /boot/efi should be the first partition  /dev/sda120:29
ioriaRandomNoob, your first is swap20:30
ioriaRandomNoob, that should be the last20:30
RandomNoobkk can i change it from live cd or need fresh install? removing partitions and creating them ?20:30
ioriaRandomNoob, idk20:30
RandomNoobyeah did not knew that <320:30
ioriaRandomNoob, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:30
OverlapAnyone who can help me with grub ?20:31
Overlap:/20:31
ioriaRandomNoob, jump to Creating an EFI System Partition20:31
RandomNoobim reading tham all :D need all the information :D20:32
ioriaRandomNoob, or use Automatic Partitioning20:33
jzeollaAnybody interested in helping me debug a partman script for building 14.04?20:33
django_1anyone have any good methods for downloading youtube videos20:33
django_1just the sound20:33
jzeollaOr pointing me to where I could go..20:33
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RandomNoobioria i need to create at least 300 gb in ntfs :(20:34
RandomNooband im unable to make it while installing :(20:34
ioriaRandomNoob, leave it unallocated , and then use the live to format it20:35
Bashing-omOverlap: What is the grub issue ?20:36
OverlapI edited the /etc/default/grub20:37
OverlapGRUB_BACKGROUND="path"20:37
karstensragehow do you get your own stuff into the main apt repo?20:37
Overlapand I also changed the time for which grub menu holds from 10 sec to 3020:37
TJ-karstensrage: generally via a sync from the Debian repositories20:37
karstensrageso anyone can do it TJ- ?20:38
Overlapprob is , when I ran sudo update-grub20:38
Overlapsplash image didn't change20:38
Overlapwhile the time changed to 30 sec20:38
TJ-karstensrage: well, the package needs to be sponsored and have a maintainer on the Debian side first20:38
Overlap:/20:38
RandomNoobioria yes i now try fresh install and i create efi disk as sd120:38
karstensrageoh20:38
OverlapDid you get me Bashing-om ?20:39
ioriaRandomNoob, ok... please keep it in the public channel20:39
Bashing-omOverlap: So does the image ( in an acceptable format ) exist where you told grub it exist ?20:39
OverlapI believe so , as i donloaded it specifically for grub20:40
Overlapits in .xpm format20:40
RandomNoobokay20:41
OverlapAnyway how to check the compatibility of image ? Bashing-om20:41
Bashing-omOverlap: Show us ' cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit ' So we know what we ar working with .20:41
Overlapokay20:41
MonkeyDustdddddddddDdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd20:42
Overlappastebinit isn't installed, so wait for a min , Bashing-om20:42
OverlapWhat heppened MonkeyDust ??20:43
ioria^_^20:43
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Bashing-omOverlap: K and " GRUB 2 can use PNG, JPG/JPEG and TGA images for the background. " .20:44
Overlaphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14012768/        Bashing-om20:44
Bashing-omOverlap: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14012768/ .20:45
Overlapok, let me try another image, if it works, then prob is solved20:45
Guest35014im new to backbox and ubuntu.  Any suggestions on helpful blogs/tutorials?20:45
TJ-Overlap: the path has to one that will be readable by the boot-loader; the file needs to be under /boot/grub/ or similar20:46
OverlapGuest35014, what sort of help do you want ?20:46
zuczhello! i just installed ubuntu dualBoot with Windows8 and i cant boot in Windows...i cant see grub at boot20:46
Bashing-omOverlap: Yeah " "/home/Pictures/gimp_temp.52120.xpm" "" .. .xmp not an accepted format .20:46
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OverlapTJ, I gave the path, /usr/share/images/grub/afhaf.xpm20:47
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Overlapit didn't work with that too . TJ, Bashing-om20:47
Overlapbut let me try again.20:47
TJ-Overlap: 'xpm' isn't supported by grub. Read /etc/grub.d/00_header20:48
Guest35014well Im interested in network security.  I have read the security + course info and I have played around with some of the toolchest that came with backbox like aircrack and armitage but i feel out of my element.  I work for a software company that is only compatible with windows20:48
Overlapokay, Let me try another image, if it work, prob is solved :)20:48
mcphailGuest35014: backbox is not supported here20:48
Guest35014what is supported here?20:49
mcphailGuest35014: Ubuntu20:49
mcphail!backbox | Guest3501420:49
ubottuGuest35014: Backbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.20:49
TJ-Overlap: "grep -A 10 'export theme' /etc/grub.d/00_header "20:49
Guest35014cool, thx20:49
mcphailGuest35014: unfortunately, we have no way of knowing what the backbox chaps have changed, so we can't support it. Sorry :)20:50
srgI'm in an Ubuntu liveCD and I'm partitioning my new SSD. In gparted, I'm getting the error: "driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but linux says it is 512 bytes". This error wont go away. I'm using GPT. Is this a problem?20:50
OverlapWhat would it do ? TJ20:50
Bashing-omOverlap: even thoght the example shows your /home as an acceptable path ... I have - as TJ- advises - always put my image in /boot/grub/ .20:51
TJ-Bashing-om: I think it depends on whether the grub root file-system is the same file-system as contains the path, because "is_path_readable_by_grub "$GRUB_BACKGROUND" " is checked20:51
Overlapokay, I do that , Bashing-om20:52
Bashing-omTJ-: Good to know info !20:53
Bashing-omOverlap: A good guide to setting up a custome grub with backround image docs : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen . I have followed it and is good .20:53
Overlap:) thanx Bashing-om20:54
RandomNoobguys swap partition should be logical or primary ?20:57
Bashing-omOverlap: :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays >> The default location for this folder is /boot/grub.20:57
Overlapgotcha :)20:57
lotuspsychje!swap | RandomNoob20:57
ubottuRandomNoob: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info20:57
RandomNoobi know that :s but which one is better primary swap or logical. im always set it as logical20:59
Bashing-omRandomNoob: I prefer to keep one primary partition as available for future expansion, so I do make up extended partition and in the extended I make up the swap as a logical partition .21:00
ookoany pussy here?21:01
lotuspsychjeooko: wrong network21:01
dotpixisooko: try ##gofuckyourself21:01
TJ-!language | dotpixis21:01
ubottudotpixis: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:01
tgm4883!ohmy21:01
ookoreallly?21:01
ynixIs there a hotkey for hibernate?21:02
dotpixisooko: if you're looking for what you said you were, that would be the logical place to look21:02
tgm4883dotpixis: ooko enough alright?21:02
ookoany help here?21:02
tgm4883ooko: if you have a ubuntu support question, then ask21:03
ookohow much cost new windows?21:04
dotpixis!supported21:04
TJ-single or double-glazed?21:04
tgm4883ooko: that's not a support question21:04
ookoany one from microsoft?21:05
dotpixis!distros | ooko21:05
ubottuooko: Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)21:05
TJ-ooko: if you do not have a legitimate support question please use #ubuntu-offtopic, any further misuse you'll be jected from this channel21:05
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OverlapHey Bashing-om, I am facing one more problem, a bit annoying21:06
ookobill gates here?21:06
OverlapUbuntu received updates few days back21:06
Overlapand since then ,  it is behaving wierdly21:06
Overlapwindows partion were shown on the launcher, they are missing now21:07
Overlapmy flash drive isn't mounting21:07
Overlapi've to manually mount it21:07
Overlaplauncher is set to defau;t icons.21:07
OverlapAll of my icons are removed , and even if I change setting, everytime system reboots, my changes disappear21:08
TJ-Overlap: sounds like some the detection logic is broken, or else there are missing files, corruption, or out-of-disk space on some file-system21:09
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Bashing-omOverlap: Windows - did ypu completely shit it down last usse or did you "hibernate" such that the hard drive is locked to windows as Windows will still have the drive as "in use" ?21:09
OverlapWindows isn't using drive, I guess21:09
dotpixis!ohmy Bashing-om21:09
Overlapit was completely shut down21:09
OverlapI am sure21:09
OverlapAuto-hide laucher (from settings) does not hide launcher21:10
w9qbj Overlap:  devmon seems to be the answer for mounting flash drives (or any other USB device)  - worked for me.21:11
Bashing-omOverlap: Do not know but maybe " GRUB_BACKGROUND="/home/Pictures/gimp_temp.52120.xpm"21:11
Overlapwhat about windows partions that were displayed on the launcher21:11
ernetasHey guys.21:12
OverlapI can't access Windows from Ubuntu21:12
Bashing-omOverlap: And GRUB_BACKGROUND=/usr/share/images/grub/Windbuchencom.tga " might be confusing the system to no end ?21:12
RandomNoobisntalled ubuntu created EFI partition as first one sda1. but still error with non bootable device found :(21:12
lotuspsychjeernetas: wlecome, what can we do for you?21:12
ernetasSo I have a question. What happens on Ubuntu 14.04 to processes which are not managed by any other upstart or init.d service? Is it SIGPWR that is sent to them? And when exactly is that signal sent to them?21:13
OverlapBashing-om, I even copied the image .tga format) to /boot/grun21:13
Overlap/boot/grub21:13
Overlapabd then gave that path to /etc/default/grub21:13
ernetas(on ps tree the only parent process to those is /sbin/init)21:13
Overlapran sudo update-grub21:13
Overlapstill not working21:13
Bashing-omOverlap: did you tell grub about the change and do the paths now agree to the same image file ?21:13
OverlapI ran sudo update-grub221:14
TJ-Overlap: have you checked the image is actually mentioned in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?21:14
Overlapnope :P21:14
Overlapwait21:14
RandomNoobguys pls help me when i have set in bios uefi im able to boot liveusb.  installing ubuntu (creating efi partition as sda1) but after install im not able to boot. when im changing in bios to legacy i see grub menu as terminal. now im trying to boot liveusb while i have set in bios legacy. want to install as legacy. but it says this is not a bootable disk. what me to do ? disabling secure boot while uefi does not works.21:16
TJ-Overlap: there should be an "insmod tga" and "background_image -m stretch ..."21:16
OverlapTJ-, ###BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_deban_theme ###21:16
Overlapset menu_color_noramal=white/black TJ21:17
carreraI just installed lxdm, now I get a more meaningful error msg:  unable to launch "ubuntu-mate" X session --- "ubuntu-mate" not found;21:17
TJ-Overlap: if those entries I mention aren't there, then your configuration settings are being ignored due to them being wrong21:17
Overlap:/  ok21:17
OverlapI guess I should go through that article that Bashing-om suggested21:18
linelevelHi, strange problem.. running `docker` says "The program 'docker' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install docker"... but apt-get says "docker is already the newest version."  -- I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Any suggestions?21:18
OverlapSo going to read that :)21:18
ravingGreetings, everybody. I am trying to install 14.04 on a Dell Precision T3600, and the bootloader (no matter what medium I boot the installer off of) complains that there is no suitable memory target. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what might cause this?21:21
ikoniaraving: that doesn't seem like a valid error message21:22
ikoniaraving: please double confirm the exact error message21:22
bekksraving: Whats the exact error message you get?21:22
bekkssorry for the repetition :)21:22
ravingiknonia, "error: couldn't find suitable memory target.\nalloc magic is broken at <some address>"21:23
radohi21:23
TJ-raving: sounds like bug 106896421:24
ubottubug 1068964 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error:couldn't find suitable memory target" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106896421:24
ravingTJ-, thank you21:24
ikoniaTJ-: exceptionally qiuck bug search21:25
rwwbut it's from 2012 and new, so not going to be that helpful :321:25
ravingWell, at least we know the problem is in GRUB21:25
rwwassuming that bug report's guess is correct21:26
ravingrww, I just looked at the grub source and the error is reported in relocator.c, so it seems like it'd be a valid assumption21:27
TJ-raving: is it a UEFI or BIOS system?21:28
ikoniathe grub version has taken a huge bump since 2012 though21:28
ravingTJ-, UEFI21:28
TJ-raving: so grub_efi_mmap_iterate() then21:28
TJ-raving: is SecureBoot enabled?21:29
ravingWell the particular function it is located in is grub_reallocator_alloc_chunk_align()21:29
ravingTJ-, shouldn't be, let me double check though21:29
TJ-raving: right... I'm ahead of you ^^^21:29
TJ-raving: that call should set ctx.found, which isn't so the code path hits "if (!ctx.found) ..."21:30
TJ-raving: is it the installer boot itself that is failing?21:30
nygmaHey, if i have an external hd and want to make a partition to hold live ubuntu, should i install grub in the entire device and point that iso?21:30
ravingTJ-, correct; that is, I can't bootstrap the installer21:30
TJ-raving: Try 15.10 - 14.04.x might not have enough EFI quirks code to 'know' about any T3600 weirdness21:31
TJ-raving: GRUB has changed a lot since 14.0421:31
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ravingTJ-, OK, we'll try 15.10, thanks for the suggestion21:32
ravingBTW, I did just check to see if secureboot is on, it doesn't seem so but I'm double checking to see if it's hidden21:33
RandomNoobguys i found solution for my problem with uefi. you can check the big post from me. if you have Acer Aspire E15 and uefi secure boot does not let you boot. it says not found bootable device. Go to the bios. Set up password. after that you are able to edit uefi custom settings. go to add uefi file. and follow the file manager choose grubx64.efi. DONE. You will boot Ubuntu. now if you are afraid to forgot your bios password you can clear it.21:33
TJ-raving: It would be a long-shot - the problem seems to be the EFI memory map is correct so GRUB can't allocate21:33
TJ-RandomNoob: yes, we've dealt with that several times before21:34
TJ-RandomNoob: once you've 'trusted' the boot file you can disable the secureboot again and it'll still work21:34
ravingTJ-, speaking of which, this might be a detail that may or not be worth mentioning but the system has 32GiB of RAM in it, so I'm not sure if it might try to allocate past the available address space or not21:34
ravingI don't know much about either the way EFI or Grub work internally21:34
TJ-raving: it could be confusing GRUB, yes. I'll be interested in your experience with 15.1021:35
ravingTJ-, we'll have to try 15.10 then, thanks for your advice21:35
* w9qbj is back (gone 02:22:39)21:36
rww!away > w9qbj21:37
ubottuw9qbj, please see my private message21:37
Rexodus22:38 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu: Total of 1851 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1850 normal]21:38
Rexodussry21:38
regedithello21:39
RandomNoobTJ- I just Trusted it. Secureboot is enabled.  Now I feel not good with visual. This laptop (Acer Aspire E15) has intel hd graphics. The picture is not perfect. Like when im opening dash the transparent is not that good as on my dekstop pc with GT220 card with nvidia driver.21:39
bradheI'm trying to use /dev/random to generate a buncha random data. Anyone have any tips/tricks on how to make it faster, it's painfully slow on my host (AWS)...21:40
bradheRandomness doesn't have to be cryptographically secure nescessarily.21:40
bradhe(for my use case)21:40
TJ-bradhe: how much randomness do you want?21:40
regeditso TeamViewer is crap, not working so good anymore here in Kubuntu (stops updating after a few sec) What's my next best bet for remotely using my Linux computer from my Kubuntu laptop?21:40
nicomachusSSH with -X21:41
rwwbradhe: use /dev/urandom instead21:41
bradheTJ-: I'd be willing to trade off randomness for speed.21:41
adeon_vnc works too21:41
regeditnicomachus: sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that21:41
bradherww: Hmmm they don't come from the same source?21:42
regeditadeon_:  sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that21:42
nicomachus!ssh | regedit21:42
ubotturegedit: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)21:42
TJ-bradhe: "openssl rand 500" would give you 500 pseudo-randomised bytes21:42
adeon_no, just enable vnc21:42
daftykinsregedit: over the internet? mistake with such a composited desktop imo21:42
regeditnicomachus: thanks, i am aware of SSH :D just not how to use it as a graphic remote operating tool21:42
adeon_run "vino-preferences" on aterminal21:42
RandomNoobguys intel hd graphics does not have any driver? at least x server? S: the picture quality is not the best :(21:42
rwwbradhe: yes. urandom is significantly faster, regardless21:42
bekksadeon_: VNC is insecure when not being tunneled through SSH.21:42
regeditdaftykins: what is a mistake, teamviewer?21:42
Armadillos_regedit: Look at nomachine21:42
bradheGot it.21:43
bradheLooks like perhaps because it doesn't have to wait for the entropy pool to refill21:43
daftykinsregedit: re-read my sentence.21:43
adeon_bekks., even with encrption on ? :-/21:43
ropohow do i install sublime-text on ubuntu?21:43
daftykinsversion?21:43
ropoany21:44
daftykinsno you need to be specific21:44
bekksadeon_: The VNC protocol is known to not implement security in a secure manner. You can safely assume to break the "vnc encryption" within seconds.21:44
ropo321:44
daftykinsubuntu version, ropo.21:44
ropo14.0421:44
ropoLTS21:44
regeditdaftykins: so what does that mean, "No! Thou cannot have any graphical remote computer access under buntu!" ??21:44
adeon_then vnc through ssh or the whole x window21:44
rwwbradhe: yep. basically, the difference in randomness quality is irrelevant if you're not in a very-early-boot scenario where there hasn't been enough entropy made to seed the random-number generator yet21:45
daftykinsregedit: forget i spoke.21:45
adeon_bekks, can you foward the whole X windows? not just a window?21:45
adeon_bekks, can you foward the whole X server? not just a window?21:45
daftykinsropo: google result #1 - http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-sublime-text-3-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/21:45
w9qbjubottu, how do I read your private message21:45
ubottuw9qbj: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:45
bekksadeon_: Thats what can be done using VNC - tunneled through SSH - or by using nxclient/nxserver.21:46
ropoanother question can i change the position of my Launcher (from left hand side)?21:46
Overlapno body thinks @ubottu :P21:46
regeditso uh, what can i use for graphical remote desktop access then?21:46
bekksregedit: VNC tunneled through SSH, nxclient/nxserver, ssh -X21:47
DirtyCajunif you unplugged an offline HDD and moved a sata from 1 port to another thats connected to a hdd that is part of a LVM while the pc was off would linux know the difference21:47
regeditbekks:  sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that21:47
bekksregedit: Define "it" first :)21:47
regeditbekks: what you just blurted21:47
bekksregedit: I told you three options.21:48
regeditoh they are 3 different ones :D21:48
regedithow am i supposed to know21:48
bekksregedit: Most likely they are different options because they are comma-separated21:48
regeditbekks: they sound like interesting options, are they hard to setup? where can i find info on them21:48
regedit:P21:48
constantine_hi everybody21:49
daftykinshi21:49
laskohey21:49
constantine_please helpme21:49
laskoAsk the question21:50
regeditput differently: in windows land I can download and run TeamViewer for a smooth nice graphical remote computer access experience. Does linux/ubuntu/etc have something like that yet?21:50
regeditas close as possible in ease of use21:50
constantine_my sound card realtek alc 880 and install driver21:50
bekksregedit: Whatever you can do in windows is irrelevant in here.21:50
DirtyCajunregedit.... you can use teamviewer in linux21:50
DirtyCajunlol21:50
bekksregedit: And I told you three options, which do what you asked for.21:50
DirtyCajunit works great.21:51
regeditDirtyCajun: not in my case21:51
DirtyCajunwhy?21:51
regediti'd love to know21:51
Bashing-omRandomNoob: I am not that familiar with Intel - so take with a grain of salt . Some Intel chip sets do not support 3d, and nowadays unity requires that the GPU have that 3d support .21:51
DirtyCajunwhat is not allowing it to work21:51
procyon_emberIs "nomodeset" the correct boot parameter to disable kernel mode setting?21:51
nicomachusyes procyon_ember21:52
regeditDirtyCajun: no idea. but it just stops working after a few sec. view does not update anymore, keys/mouse actions dont do anything21:52
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DirtyCajunhave you checked your logs ?21:52
procyon_emberThen I have a problem. I can't boot Lubuntu 15.10 desktop cd on this computer.21:52
regeditbekks: those sound like interesting options. Are they easy to setup? Where can i find tutorials/guides on getting those working as easy as TeamViewer on Windows?21:53
bekksregedit: they are so easy to setup, you could have found the three wiki articles already.21:53
DirtyCajunregedit. just so you know. i have played with 20 Remote desktop programs. NONE are the same as teamviwer21:54
bekksDirtyCajun: you played with the wrong solutions then ;)21:54
regeditDirtyCajun: also they removed the "disable remote screen" button. but mainly its just not working21:54
ikoniaregedit: contact teamviewer then21:54
regeditikonia: i'm doing that too21:55
ikoniajob done then21:55
regeditwell no, i need graphical remote access21:55
regeditso i come here asking for options on this fine OS21:55
ikoniaregedit: and you'v ebeen given options21:55
ikoniaresearch the options you've been given21:55
DirtyCajunbekks. name one i have tried it bby :) also they did not disable that at all... i have teamviewr open right now and looking at it current version21:56
regeditikonia: yep, so what are you interjecting about then, if i may ask21:56
procyon_ember /afk21:56
RandomNoobhow to check that ? if it supports 3d?21:57
ikoniaregedit: you've got the info - job done, you appeared to be continuing to ask the info21:57
regeditikonia: nope, i was discussing TeamViewer with DirtyCajun21:57
ikoniaregedit: ubuntu doesn't make/maintain it - so talk to teamviewer support about it21:57
constantine_please help me21:58
constantine_my sound card not working21:58
DirtyCajuni try not to be bias. there are a lot of programs that dosome of what teamviewer does. i havent found one that does EVERYTHING. and not nearly as seamless21:58
regeditikonia: yep you've suggested that priorly, thank you21:58
Overlapconstantine , which version of Ubuntu are you using ?22:00
Overlap.22:02
Bashing-omRandomNoob: Not sure if this is still apt but ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f ' all lines are yes to fully support unity .22:02
ssalenikregedit: there is also xpra: http://xpra.org/ which might work for you22:02
regeditssalenik: thanks!22:03
stacks88when running free -tm on a virtual machine i get http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yEbTkWuM so does this mean ive got 4.2gb of free memory, or is it 6 gb?22:03
rwwstacks88: for the usual meaning of free, you have 6017MB22:04
tewardstacks88: The total includes swap in it.  Your actual RAM total is 6017MB22:04
tewardblah rww ninja'd me22:05
stacks88ah ok22:05
rwwthe first line is a (not generally what you want) measure of memory including cache, second line is memory without stuff that can be trivially freed up, third line is swap, fourth line is first + third22:05
RandomNoobBashing-om no such file or directory :(22:05
Bashing-omRandomNoob: K .. lemme see what I can find for a more recent test .22:06
RandomNoobBashing-om okay im waiting :*22:08
piotr_hi22:09
TJ-Bashing-om: RandomNoob "apt-file search ..." reveals "nux-tools: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test"22:10
Bashing-omRandomNoob: You are now up on 15.10 ? as of 14.04 that test was still valid .22:10
TJ-Bashing-om: RandomNoob file exists in 15.1022:11
RandomNoobBashing-om im on 14.0422:11
Bashing-omRandomNoob: Should workie .. you are using ubuntu with unity as the DE, yes ?22:12
RandomNoobBashing-om yeah it is there i checked with file manager. am i typing wrong in terminal ?22:12
RandomNoobjust installed ubuntu with default all22:13
Bashing-omRandomNoob: Maybe; try as ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p ' .22:14
RandomNoobBashing-om wow now it runs. it says on all yes22:14
RandomNoobbut i feel that the picture is not as good as on my old pc :(  is there any drivers for intel hd graphics? for intel pentium 3825U processor22:15
RandomNoobcant find in google22:15
daftykinsit's not windows, you don't install graphics drivers for intel.22:16
OerHeksintel is supported OOTB, Acer Aspire E150 with Intel HD Graphics 4400, not a racemonster, but youtube should work full screen22:16
Bashing-omRandomNoob: Well, was a thought, Great though that the chip set is supported . Do not lnow what to advise about improving the display quality .22:16
OerHekssystemsettings > colour > colourprofiles22:17
RandomNoobBashing-om on my desktop pc i had problem with ubuntu. it had like sepia effect on all the screen. like redfish.22:19
Bashing-omRandomNoob: On that machine, might see about changing the graphic's driver . On the one present with Ontel. Intel provides the best they have and it is in the kernel . There is no other with out going to the testing route .22:21
Bashing-omIntel*22:21
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TJ-RandomNoob: what did you mean by "the picture quality isn't the best" ?22:23
RandomNoobTJ like when im opening dash the transparent is not good quality it feels the shadows for window top is not good. srry for my english. It can be problem with cheap lcd screen?22:29
RandomNoobI think this is cuz of screen is cheap :S22:30
OerHeksinstall unity-tweak to fiddle around with those settings22:30
RandomNooband guys is there any driver for intel hd graphics ?22:30
OerHeksthat Q has been answered22:31
daftykinsRandomNoob: why do you keep repeating?22:31
daftykinsare you a bot?22:31
TJ-RandomNoob: what resolution is the LCD display? pastebin the output of "xrandr -q"22:31
OerHeksno, i think he is spawning the same Q in different channels22:31
RandomNooboh sorry i just now sow his message22:31
RandomNoobhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1401410222:33
ravingTJ-, hello again; we just tried 15.10 on the aforementioned 15.10, and the same behavior ("Couldn't find a suitable memory address")22:33
raving... continues to occur.22:34
raving(sorry, I accidentally hit enter before I was done)22:34
OerHeksraving, run memtest86 from the grubmenu, this sounds like bad ram22:34
ravingOerHeks, OK, will do22:34
dexter_zodjoin #ubuntu22:35
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nicomachusdexter_zod: you're already in #ubuntu...22:36
dexter_zodikr22:36
Bashing-omRandomNoob: A thought, does the "cheap lcd screen" - monitor support hdmi ? then hook the monitor up via an HDMI cable .22:36
dexter_zodhi sonu22:37
sonu_1hi zod22:37
sonu_1http://pingturtle.com/home/post/mini-php-rc4-encryption-class22:37
dexter_zodon it22:38
sonu_1copy that22:38
daftykinsyou two, take it elsewhere.22:38
OerHeksdexter_zod, sonu_1 this is ubuntu support, please don't spam22:38
ScotterI'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 14.04.3...I keep getting an acpi probe failed error on on boot for install and try22:38
dexter_zodsry man k we going22:38
RandomNoobBashing-om eh i dont have hdmi cable :(22:38
ScotterAnyone want to lend me a hand?22:38
daftykinsScotter: that message doesn't matter and is not the reason22:39
daftykinsScotter: what kind of system is this? try booting with nomodeset.22:39
daftykins!nomodeset22:39
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:39
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Scotterthanks ubottu, I'll take a look22:40
RandomNoobguys here can be spam bot? which is sending pms to people? or is that just little kid ? saying bad things about me ?22:40
nicomachusRandomNoob: report to #freenode22:41
daftykinsRandomNoob: report any abusive PMs in #ubuntu-ops22:41
ScotterI've seen this before, but only attempted to edit the boot parameters22:41
k1lRandomNoob: issues with other users or bots in here please report to #ubuntu-ops22:41
Scottersorry, dafty...missed your message22:42
RandomNoobk1l ok thanks22:42
ScotterIt's a lenovo flex 10, 64 bit...came with POS windows 822:42
mrsam96ih22:44
mrsam96hi22:44
daftykins!pm22:44
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.22:44
Scotterso I've already attempted to use acpi=off22:45
mrsam96HOW CAN I INSTALL KDE FULLL> i cant install with this command (sudo apt-get install kde-full)22:45
Scottershould I try nomodeset, as you suggested?22:45
k1lmrsam96: which ubuntu are you on?22:46
Scotter14.04.322:46
TJ-OerHeks: I don't think memtest86+ has support for UEFI yet, so unlikely to work for raving, not according to bug 1234612 anyhow22:46
ubottubug 1234612 in trusty-backports "Please backport memtest86+ 5.01-3ubuntu1 from Ubuntu 15.10 Wily to 14.04 LTS (memtest86 is 4 years old (v4.2.0) in LTS)!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123461222:46
mrsam96K1l : 15.1022:46
OerHeksTJ-, ouch, good point22:46
daftykinsScotter: type of system?22:47
daftykinsScotter: to be honest it would be the quickest thing to try.22:47
ScotterIt's a lenovo flex 10, 64 bit.22:47
Scotteri'll give it a try22:47
Scotterwhen I put in acpi=off, it gave me no error...just went to a black screen22:47
daftykinsthat means nothing to me without a spec link really22:48
TJ-OerHeks: if raving returns I'd suggest he tries removing 16GiB RAM if possible; I think it's a mapping issue in GRUB with the size of memory22:48
k1lmrsam96: since kde5 they splitted the kde stuff in several projects like plasma, apps, framework etc etc etc. so there is no kde-full package anymore22:48
Scotterhold up, i'll grab the specs22:48
k1lmrsam96: maybe the guys in #kubuntu can tell you what the full meta package now is named22:49
mrsam96<k1l> so with one is better to install it?22:50
k1lmrsam96: install kubuntu-desktop22:50
ScotterIntel Celeron N2810 (2.0 GHz) Dual core, 2 GB DDR3L 1066 RAM, Intel HD Graphics22:51
Scotterhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ35U4904&cm_re=flex_10_lenovo-_-9SIA0AJ35U4904-_-Product22:51
daftykinsScotter: hmm probably more likely your download wasn't good or USB drive made up badly22:51
daftykinswouldn't hurt to try still.22:51
Scotterk, i'll see how it goes22:52
jedininjarobguys how do i register my nick with free node?22:52
k1l!register | jedininjarob22:52
ubottujedininjarob: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode22:52
mrsam96K1l : is it stable?22:53
mrsam96K1l : is it stayble?22:53
k1lmrsam96: its stable like kde5 is now.22:53
mrsam96K1l : KDE crash alot22:54
k1lmrsam96: better ask in #kubuntu about the kde specifics. they know it better than me.22:54
Scotternomodeset seems to have works22:54
mrsam96tnx22:54
Scotterworked*22:54
Scotter:-)22:54
Scotterwill I have to enter the nomodeset parameter each time until I make a more permanent alteration?22:55
nicomachusIIRC it should stay in the config until you remove it.22:56
Bashing-omScotter: Once you are installed, you can then install a graphic's driver .22:56
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doughj3I'm following a tutorial to create a service for Ubuntu, it says to create a .conf file in /etc/init, so I've created /etc/init/myservice.conf. But when I run `sudo service myservice start`, I get an error saying: Failed to start myservice.service: Unit myservice.service failed to load: No such file or directory.23:01
doughj3The tutorial is for 14.04 and I'm on 15.10, has the directory changed? Do I need to do something after creating the .conf file in /etc/init?23:01
OerHeks!systemd23:03
ubottusystemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers23:03
oIohi all23:07
daftykinslo23:08
oIohowcan i install flash player?23:09
daftykinsapt-get install chromium-browser pepperflashplugin-nonfree23:09
daftykinsdone23:09
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Guest48324So I'm wondering if anyone can help me permanently change my boot parameter to nomodeset?23:15
k1l!nomodeset | Guest48324 that names the setting to add23:16
ubottuGuest48324 that names the setting to add: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:16
Pod15Can I prevent a standard user downloading python files via Firefox somehow?23:16
daftykinsPod15: what's the usecase ? sounds kinda ridiculous23:17
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Guest48324isn't shift supposed to get you into GNU Grub?23:19
Pod15Daftykins yeah I know, got a user that is downloading python files which am not happy about. Wondering if can stop them running them ultimately?23:19
Guest48324ugh, been so long since I've been on a linux system23:19
Bashing-omGuest48324: On a UEFI system, it is the escape key that grub looks for .23:21
Guest48324ah23:22
Guest48324thanks, Bashing-om23:22
daftykinsPod15: sorry, there is too much wrong with that query23:22
Pod15Daftykins, tell me about it!23:23
Pod15Oh well thought I'd ask, no worries23:24
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fellipehi all! why does it happen?  three identical 3g usb modem and only two /dev/serial/by-id ? http://pastie.org/1063271523:34
k1lfellipe: see usb modeswitch23:35
fellipek1l:  I saw something about this, but, do you have any further tip?23:36
k1lhttps://wiki.debian.org/Huawei/E22023:37
fellipek1l: thanks. I will take a look but I got two e220 modems work fine. But when I added the third one, one of them got absent in /dev/serial/by-id23:40
fellipek1l: so, I will read this link to find out any clue23:41
MrBassManx23:42
drnapsterhi so i installed arch alongside my ubuntu install now when ubuntu boots i get a start job is running for dev-disk-by... once ubuntu boots it cant see swap. any ideas?23:47
daftykinsdid you keep just one swap? maybe you let arch format it and so it has a new UUID now.23:47
daftykinscompare fstab against the UUIDs23:48
drnapsterhow do i check the uuid? im sure that is it23:48
daftykinssudo blkid23:48
fellipek1l: so, I've read that, and I am using multiple modems to send sms with gammu-smsd. And... this tutorial say nothing that I did not do before, and nothing about multiple modems... any other tip?23:49
drnapsterit is deffinatly different that should do it. i can just edit the fstabe and save to fix right?23:50
daftykinsbit shocked you even have to ask23:51
scrabcakesMy c720 running xubuntu is no longer suspending. I already previously added in the common fix found on google (changing grub file). Any suggestions?23:51
drnapsterit have been about 3 years i just wanted to make sure i remembered correctly23:51
daftykinsscrabcakes: chrubuntu or some such?23:52
scrabcakesdaftykins: seabios23:52
daftykinsthat's not relevant to what i mean23:52
daftykinsi'm asking what's on it23:53
scrabcakesxubuntu on seabios? it's not via crouton23:53
daftykinsok23:54
drnapsterthanks23:54
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scrabcakesis that what you meant or?23:57
daftykinsnot quite23:58
scrabcakessorry I'm not sure what you mean then23:58
daftykinsit's ok23:58

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