[00:00] <Bassem> TJ-, hope too my first time on ubuntu
[00:01] <rodd`> hi, Im about to format my hdd to sell my laptop, id like to know of ways to fully wipe the hdd and prevent future attemps of recovering deleted files (by new owner), any tips?
[00:01] <TJ-> Bassem: well at last we've not messed up Windows. The only thing affecting that (and we previsouly backed up the Windows boot-strap master boot record (MBR) from sector 0 of the disk) is the GRUB bootloader, which will be the system default boot-loader, and will list Ubuntu and Windows (we hope - is os-prober now works!)
[00:02] <daftykins> rodd`: dd zero fill, or grab the ever popular live tool CD 'DBAN'
[00:03] <rodd`> thanks daftykins
[00:03] <Bassem> TJ-, its now downloading languge pack
[00:03] <Bassem> TJ-, wha language pack?
[00:04] <TJ-> Bassem: for the locale you're in
[00:04] <Bassem> TJ-, i dont need unnecessary language pack installed
[00:04] <TJ-> Bassem:  language-packs are translations (including the default language)
[00:04] <Bassem> TJ-, it was downloading alot of packs
[00:05] <OneM_Industries> Hey, do you know where Lubuntu questions are handled.
[00:05] <OneM_Industries> ?*
[00:05] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: you found the place. :)
[00:05] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: #lubuntu or ask here
[00:05] <OneM_Industries> Ah, ok.
[00:05] <OerHeks> there is no asklubuntu.com
[00:05] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: if it's LXDE specific #lubuntu may know better else try us
[00:06] <OneM_Industries> I found this old thing sitting around and was wondering how well/if Lubuntu would run on it: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq-presario-sr1000/specs/
[00:06] <rodd`> can I do dd zero fill from a ubuntu live cd?
[00:07] <OerHeks> OneM_Industries, maybe Xubuntu runs too, but do not expect to run youtube flawlessly with that VIA UniChrome
[00:07] <OneM_Industries> I was not expecting that anyway.
[00:07] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: the spces sound like a typical Lubuntu machine. but the video card is going to be a pain on all recent linux distributions
[00:08] <daftykins> rodd`: yes
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> Hm.
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> Good to know.
[00:08] <OerHeks> or mate-desktop, try it out?
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> I will.
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> If all else fails, I have an old XP ISO somewhere.
[00:08] <daftykins> i actually wouldn't expend the energy to move that box and plug it in
[00:08] <daftykins> single core is useless today imo
[00:09] <TJ-> 12.04 may be OK but the later VIA unichrome drivers are unmaintained and bit-rotting last time I looked
[00:09] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[00:09] <TJ-> pfft, single cores are fine, depends what you want to do to them :)
[00:09] <nicomachus> OneM_Industries: I would not recommend an XP iso unless you plan to never plug it in to a network...
[00:09] <daftykins> TJ-: true, calculators are still used ;)
[00:09] <TJ-> entire network controllers run on single-core!
[00:10] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: yeah what you're trying to do is a crime
[00:10] <daftykins> i ought to come and confiscate that XP disc :P
[00:12] <OneM_Industries> Hey, we paid for it in 2002.
[00:13] <OneM_Industries> And also, I only got the main computer in our house off of XP a couple of months ago.
[00:13] <daftykins> you may want to speed up in future :)
[00:13] <c|oneman> it wont get compromised if you've got a router
[00:13] <c|oneman> and dont use a browser :P
[00:13] <daftykins> that's utter rubbish, c|oneman
[00:14] <daftykins> yeah and don't plug it in
[00:14] <c|oneman> how will it get compromized behind nat?
[00:14] <daftykins> heard of flash drives?
[00:14] <c|oneman> lol
[00:14] <c|oneman> I wasnt paying attention
[00:14] <OneM_Industries> It was my parent's box.
[00:14] <OneM_Industries> It was actually a nice one.
[00:15] <c|oneman> im about to setup an xp box to play vintage games. im not worried about viruses because I won't use a browser on it.
[00:15] <k1l_> there is no excuse to use or manage unsafe systems.
[00:15] <nicomachus> c|oneman: you can emulate XP without actually using XP.
[00:15] <c|oneman> no you can't.
[00:15] <daftykins> folks, not a Windows channel... lets take it elsewhere huh?
[00:15] <OneM_Industries> They used some old embroidery software that would only run on that, so yeah. Sorry, daftykins.
[00:16] <Bassem> TJ-, it still gie me blank screen for my nividia
[00:17] <TJ-> Bassem: Right, because at the moment it is using the nouveau driver. You need to install the nvidia proprietary drivers. I assume you've rebooted into the installed system?
[00:18] <Bassem> TJ-, yes im on the installed system now and back again to my onboard HDMI
[00:18] <Bassem> TJ-, and by the way tie windows load very well
[00:19] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, reboot it with the Nvidia GPU enabled, making sure to continue holding down the left Shift key until you see the GRUB boot manager menu
[00:19] <TJ-> Bassem: at that point, choose the "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose the first "Recovery..." option
[00:21] <Bassem> TJ-, should i connect my HDMI cable to nividia?
[00:24] <gartral> hey all, i need some help with a gamepad, it's a gamestop knockoff of the xbox360 controller, i'm not using xpad as it refused to recognize the controllers' existance, xboxdrv sees it, but the axis mapping is messed up, how do i fix it?
[00:24] <nicomachus> gartral: can you use jtest-gtk?
[00:25] <nicomachus> jstest-gtk, that is
[00:30] <Drone4four-2> hey guys i'm battling a broken X server.  here is my forum thread (in lieu of a pastebin for my /var/log/Xorg.0.log): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306173
[00:30] <gartral> nicomachus: I can, but jstest shows the right mapping
[00:30] <Drone4four-2> i'm running 14.04 64bit
[00:32] <nicomachus> gartral: you may try to get some help from the guys at #gamingonlinux. they have a lot more specialized knowledge in gettings gamepads working correctly.
[00:32] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[00:32] <Drone4four-2> thanks TJ-
[00:32] <Drone4four-2> yeah i tried uninstalling my nvidia drivers thinking that they could have been the source of my problem
[00:33] <Drone4four-2> so do i have to set in motion an open source alternative, TJ-?
[00:33] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: and noveau open-source driver isn't loading due to the "nomodeset" kernel parameter
[00:34] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: that's reported with "(EE) [drm] KMS not enabled"
[00:34] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: KMS == Kernel Mode Settings (which nomodeset disables)
[00:35] <Drone4four-2> ah ok, TJ-,so if i remove nomodeset from Grub at boot, then nouveau should load and X should start?
[00:36] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: in *theory*, if the GPU is fully supported. However, sometimes 'nomodeset' is used due to getting black screens with nouveau. If you have local VT console I'd re-install the correct nvidia proprietary drivers
[00:36] <Bassem> TJ-, im back with my nvidia connected but very low resolution on my screen
[00:37] <TJ-> Drone4four-2: run "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[00:37] <Drone4four-2> i can try that. i will try remove nomodeset. if that doesn't work then in a VT i'll install older nvidia drivers.  and if X still doesn't start, then my Xorg.0.log should produce different errors
[00:37] <Drone4four-2> i never knew about sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[00:37] <Drone4four-2> i can try that too
[00:38] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, that's fine. You could switch to a text VT console by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1", log-in, then do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" to have the correct proprietary Nvidia drivers installed
[00:40] <Bassem> TJ-, say again
[00:41] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, that's fine. You could switch to a text VT console by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1", log-in, then do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" to have the correct proprietary Nvidia drivers installed
[00:42] <Bassem> TJ-, and how to get out of this mod
[00:43] <Bassem> i mean ctrl+alt+f1
[00:43] <TJ-> Bassem: mod? the terminal? press Alt+F7 to return to tty7, which has the GUI
[00:43] <Bassem> ok
[00:54] <ralpheeee> installed ubuntu core with i3wm...have three major issues....sound and brightness fn keys not working...and chrome has a lot of graphical glitches...ie only a section of page will show until i move my mouse over the areas which have a patch
[00:55] <Bassem> TJ-, i did it.and now try to adjust the resolution it give me error when i open display
[00:58] <Bassem> TJ-, it just needed a restart now it work fine
[00:58] <TJ-> Bassem: good, so it's looking about ready now ?
[00:58] <Bassem> TJ-, what do you mean
[00:59] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 15.10 - in Surface Pro the touch-pad does not work. how can i keep Windows and beside that install Ubuntu 15.10?
[00:59] <TJ-> Bassem: Ubuntu ready for you to use, no more configuration required?
[00:59] <IamTrying> asking ERASE disk and install ubuntu
[01:00] <Bassem> TJ-, dont know yet thers alot of work i need to do for example i want to be able to run my visual studio project that i use on windows
[01:00] <Bassem> can ubuntu run visual studio projects
[01:00] <Bashing-om> IamTrying: " ERASE disk and install ubuntu " is just that .. will wipe the disk ( GoodBye Windows ) and do just that .
[01:01] <IamTrying> Bashing-om: no no no, i need to keep Windows on it. beside windows i need Ubuntu
[01:01] <TJ-> Bassem: Not sure, that's generally the wrong approach though. Most Linux based IDEs will be able to use autoconf and Makefile projects, but not sure about directly using VS projects
[01:01] <Scarecr0w> Bassem: Naww it can't.
[01:02] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/how-to-install-microsoft-visual-studio-code-in-ubuntu
[01:02] <TJ-> Bashing-om: you could try the VisualStudio Linux package though https://code.visualstudio.com/Download
[01:02] <TJ-> Bassem: you could try the VisualStudio Linux package though https://code.visualstudio.com/Download
[01:02] <Bassem> is there a way i can program in visual basic language on ubuntu
[01:03] <OerHeks> 64 bit only
[01:03] <IamTrying> Surface Pro - mouse-touch-pad does not work with Ubuntu 15.10
[01:03] <TJ-> Bassem: since Balmer left MS, they've become quite friendly with Linux :)
[01:03] <Bashing-om> IamTrying: If you do not get the option " install alongside" that suggest that Windows is occupying all 4 primary partitions . show the channel what you are working with : ' df -h ; sudo parted -l ' . We can then advise  better .
[01:04] <k1l_> IamTrying: surface pro is very special hardware (made for windows). see the surface community how to get that working on a linux
[01:05] <Eliter> May I ask a Ubuntu Server software question?
[01:05] <Bassem> im trying to run mp3 file and it says to install plugin and gave me 3 options how to know the right one
[01:06] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000166/ - Bashing-om
[01:07] <Scarecr0w> Bassem: I use Rhythmbox to play the mp3 files.
[01:07] <Bashing-om> IamTrying: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000166/ .
[01:07] <Bassem> Scarecr0w, im using it too but it need plugin and gave me 3 options which plugin should i install
[01:07] <TJ-> Bassem: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[01:08] <Pablo_> hello everybody
[01:08] <Eliter> hello
[01:09] <Pablo_> i wrote in terminal mkdir tweak;cd tweak and now i dont know how to remove tweak from Aspire-E1-570:~/tweak/tweak$ to be like Aspire-E1-570:~/$
[01:10] <Pablo_> please someone help
[01:10] <TJ-> Pablo_: "cd $HOME"
[01:10] <Zhyr> ...
[01:11] <k1l_> !terminal | Pablo_
[01:11] <Pablo_> [03:10] <TJ->  thank you , you're the best
[01:11] <Bassem> TJ-, what is the restricted extras
[01:12] <Bashing-om> IamTrying: Hummm .. I just do not know the why you are not offered the "install alongside" option. This is a GPT hard drive ( 128 partition limit) with Windows on 5 partitions. Someone with Windows experience can advise better .
[01:13] <TJ-> Bashing-om: read the description from "apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[01:13] <TJ-> IamTrying: Bashing-om did the installer boot in Legacy/BIOS mode?
[01:14] <TJ-> IamTrying: what does "grep 20microsoft /var/log/syslog" report ?
[01:14] <texla> 14.04.3..Can 32 bit dvds and usb pen drives be run in 64 bit system
[01:15] <IamTrying> TJ-: USB stick was booted properly from the BIOS settings of Surface pro as a result i had USB Stick boot in begin. I guess its Legacy mode.
[01:15] <TJ-> texla: Yes
[01:15] <noflag> Hi all
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Bassem: TJ- " Description-en: Commonly used restricted packages for Ubuntu This package depends on some commonly used packages in the Ubuntu multiverse repository."
[01:16] <IamTrying> TJ-: that log i will give you later i am following this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuYg5P4EHo
[01:16] <noflag> I'm having a bug where I can't type my disk encryption password at boot, the typing appears at the top left of the screen like a normal console
[01:16] <TJ-> IamTrying: the syslog output is vital since it will indicate what the os-prober tool did to identify/not identify a Windows install
[01:16] <noflag> I can only get in by using recovery mode then resuming boot
[01:17] <IamTrying> My windows C has 113 GB, for Ubuntu 15.10 how much space i need to shrink?
[01:17] <TJ-> IamTrying: to check on whether the boot mode is UEFI or not do "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo 'UEFI mode'  "
[01:18] <Bassem> thanks Bashing-om
[01:20] <TJ-> IamTrying: space requirements depend on what you intend to do. The OS ought to get 8GiB, and add whatever you want for the user's storage to that
[01:20] <Pablo_> actualy i tried to instal unity tweak tool , i've installed from software center but it doesnt appear in apps and when i try to open from terminal shows me this "in order to work properly unity tweak tool recommends you install the necessary packages"
[01:20] <IamTrying> OK - thank you TJ- i will send you the logs after relogin
[01:21] <k1l_> Pablo_: open a terminal. then run "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"
[01:23] <Pablo_> pablo@pablo-Aspire-E1-570:~$ unity-tweak-tool Unable to open /home/pablo/.config/unity-tweak-tool/debug.log for writing. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/unity-tweak-tool", line 72, in <module>     UnityTweakTool.Application()   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UnityTweakTool/__init__.py", line 94, in __init__     with open(LOCKFILE, "w") as pidfile: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/pablo/.c
[01:24] <dotpixis> Pablo_: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --fix-missing && sudo apt-get clean
[01:26] <Pablo_> [03:24] <dotpixis> the same thing nothing changed
[01:26] <ProbablyAndy> it looks like it can't write to your home direcoty
[01:29] <TJ-> Pablo_: have you executed some command(s) like "chmod" or "chown" ?
[01:29] <IamTrying> https://youtu.be/oXuYg5P4EHo?t=286 - TJ-, Bashing-om: after doing this as shown in the video, i have a new option in Ubuntu 15.10 "Install Ubuntu alongside windows boot manager" . if i do not do that then it wont show.
[01:30] <shadowzero26> hello all
[01:31] <leonic> hello i am  using ubuntu in a usb in a acer laptp aspire one
[01:31] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 15.10 - on Surface pro 3 still the mouse touch-pad does not work. keyboard, touchscreen, sound, microphone is working. but front/back camera not working with Ubuntu 15.10 is it normal?
[01:32] <wyoung> leonic: That's nice
[01:32] <Bassem> can i make the top title bar bigger
[01:32] <leonic> ny keyboard is not working normaly some keys does not work have to press fn button
[01:33] <wyoung> leonic: I am using ubuntu on a few servers and laptops
[01:33] <shadowzero26> I just installed Ubuntu on my aspire onc
[01:33] <wyoung> leonic: oh and virtual machine guests
[01:34] <wyoung> leonic: That's no good.  Have you tried doing a quick google search on your laptop model key and ubuntu version?
[01:34] <leonic> i did have  a couple of distros includin ppupy
[01:34] <shadowzero26> leonic:  you can remove the keys individually and clean them
[01:34] <leonic> XDDDD
[01:34] <wyoung> leonic: but yeah it could be a physcial problem or a driver issue, I am assuming you have tested under different OSs etc..?
[01:35] <shadowzero26> my dog spilled a beer on my apsire, then, the next day he spilled a cherry coke on my laptop
[01:35] <leonic> i want to try it because the space keys is hard
[01:35] <leonic> stycky kesy
[01:35] <leonic> i am a fool but well i rareley ue a laptop
[01:36] <shadowzero26> I took all the keys of and cleaned the space with warm water and a little soap. didnt use a lot of water
[01:38] <shadowzero26> the keys feel like they are going to break, but none did.  the f keys along the top never feel good but they work.
[01:40] <nicomachus> !ot
[01:41] <Bassem> can i make the top title bar bigger
[01:42] <wyoung> Bassem: Probably, if not under settings then you may need to install the compiz control panel extension
[01:42] <Zelrik> sudo apt-get update => Segmentation fault
[01:42] <Zelrik> also hi
[01:42] <nicomachus> Bassem: yes, with unity-tweak-tool
[01:42] <Zelrik> sudo rm filename.txt => Segmentation fault
[01:43] <TJ-> Zelrik: Is that after a clean reboot?
[01:43] <Zelrik> yeah
[01:43] <Zelrik> after I upgraded to 14.04
[01:43] <TJ-> Zelrik: then some library is corrupt, or the wrong version
[01:44] <Zelrik> how do I fix
[01:44] <nicomachus> Bassem: you can install unity-tweak-tool and then adjust font sizes, which will make your title bar larger.
[01:44] <TJ-> Zelrik: what release did the PC release-upgrade from?
[01:44] <Zelrik> I think 12.04
[01:44] <TJ-> Zelrik: was the system using any 3rd party package repositories (PPAs) ?
[01:45] <Zelrik> yeah
[01:45] <Zelrik> they got disabled during upgrade I think
[01:45] <TJ-> Zelrik: Did any errors get reported during the release-upgrade?
[01:45] <Zelrik> yeah there were some errors
[01:45] <Bassem> compiz control panel extension or unity-tweak-tool
[01:46] <TJ-> Zelrik: did you fix them? did you capture their text ?
[01:46] <Zelrik> no I didnt
[01:46] <Zelrik> I thought I could clean that up after upgrade
[01:46] <TJ-> Zelrik: OK, so there may be some problems due to packages not having upgraded correctly
[01:46] <TJ-> Zelrik: can you do, as a regular user, "touch /tmp/test; rm /tmp/test" without errors?
[01:47] <Zelrik> I can
[01:47] <TJ-> Zelrik: and the extact same commands prefixed with 'sudo ' seg-fault?
[01:47] <Zelrik> yes
[01:48] <Zelrik> so it s sudo that s broken
[01:48] <Zelrik> sudo su is broken too
[01:48] <TJ-> Zelrik: so that tends to suggest that the dependencies of 'sudo' might be the culprit. When you do "apt-cache depends sudo" you can see those
[01:48] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 15.10 - is installed in Surface pro 3 successfully. But Front and Back camera is not working like device is not found. how can i use the camera then?
[01:48] <Zelrik> oph
[01:48] <Zelrik> there is a conflict shown
[01:48] <Zelrik> sudo-ldap
[01:49] <TJ-> Zelrik: there's only 4, I'd suspect the libpam* first
[01:49] <rahuldev> Hello, morning
[01:49] <Zelrik> sudo-ldap is in conflict
[01:49] <Zelrik> with itself
[01:49] <rahuldev> I've 64 GB unallocated space anyone please suggest what can I do with it?
[01:49] <TJ-> Zelrik: you can ignore the Conflicts/Replaces. Those aren't reports about the current status, they are the package declaring what it can (not) install alongside
[01:49] <nicomachus> IamTrying: that's some experimental stuff, so it may just not work. you may not be able to use the camera with ubuntu, because the hardware isn't intended for it.
[01:50] <nicomachus> rahuldev: you can add it to one of your existing partitions or leave it unallocated.
[01:51] <rahuldev> nicomachus, in ubuntu can we create one more partition?
[01:51] <TJ-> Zelrik: I think we need to try to capture the cause of the seg-fault. I wonder if you can use the debugger to do that
[01:52] <IamTrying> nicomachus: mouse touch pad also does not work. now the touch-screen also not working
[01:52] <TJ-> Zelrik: "gdb --args sudo echo test"
[01:52] <TJ-> Zelrik: then at the gdb> shell prompt type "run"
[01:52] <srg> How can I make a UEFI-bootable USB stick of Ubuntu 15.10? Do I format the USB stick as GPT with one partition as FAT32, then extract the .iso file on to the partition?
[01:52] <TJ-> Zelrik: when/if sudo segfaults pastebin the results of doing "bt full"
[01:53] <nicomachus> IamTrying: looks like there are some patches created by users that you may try. See here: https://github.com/matthewwardrop/linux-surfacepro3
[01:53] <TJ-> srg: The ISOs are UEFI bootable
[01:53] <Bassem> can i adjust the search your computer and online sources to just search my computer
[01:53] <nicomachus> rahuldev: yes you can have more than partition...
[01:53] <Zelrik> effective uid is not 0
[01:53] <srg> TJ-: So, is that the right way to do it? Make a FAT32 GPT partition and copy the ISO files there?
[01:53] <TJ-> srg: otherwise, simply copy /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI"
[01:54] <nicomachus> Bassem: you can disable online sources in System Settings --> Security & Privacy
[01:54] <TJ-> srg: no, just write the ISO directly to the raw USB device
[01:54] <srg> oh, so dd it?
[01:54] <TJ-> srg: Correct :D
[01:54] <srg> Thanks!
[01:54] <Zelrik> , is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an nfs file system without root privileges?
[01:54] <srg> I think I was over complicating it
[01:54] <Zelrik> "
[01:54] <TJ-> srg: nice to find someone that knows dd and likes it :)
[01:54] <TJ-> Zelrik: Oh, nice report!
[01:55] <srg> TJ-: I've been a linux user for years, but I'm very new to UEFI
[01:55] <nicomachus> we all are. :/
[01:55] <IamTrying> OK - thank you nicomachus
[01:55] <TJ-> Zelrik: that suggests "ls -l /usr/bin/sudo" will show the file doesn't have its 's' bit set, can you show us what that command shows?
[01:55] <TJ-> srg: UEFI is wonderful :)
[01:56] <nicomachus> that's just, like, you're opinion, man ^
[01:56] <TJ-> srg: no more playing whack-a-mole with multiple OS boot-loaders on the same device
[01:56] <Zelrik> damn I wish I could paste it
[01:56] <Zelrik> it on my other computer
[01:56] <Zelrik> hold on
[01:56] <nicomachus> language, Zelrik
[01:57] <TJ-> nicomachus: no, statement of fact. OSs now can co-exist without replacing each other's files
[01:57] <TJ-> Zelrik: just type the permissions of the file
[01:57] <Zelrik> -rwsr-xr-x
[01:57] <TJ-> Zelrik: and I see "-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 155008 Mar 12  2015 /usr/bin/sudo"
[01:58] <TJ-> Zelrik: so next lets check the mount options of the root file-system: "grep ' / ' /proc/mounts "
[01:58] <Bassem> compiz control panel extension or unity-tweak-tool to customize title bar size
[01:59] <sjjenni> I have a working postfix system, mail works fine, I want to change to virtual aliases, so I changed the mydestination line in main.cf NOT to include the virtual domains, added virtual_alias_domains and vitrual_alias_maps, in that file.   CReated /etc/postix/virtual ran newalias and postmap, restarted postfix.  Mail fails to these domains, log say: user unknown in virtual alias table, what have I missed?
[01:59] <Zelrik> I get /dev/disk/by-uuid/<some uuid>  /ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
[01:59] <TJ-> Zelrik: you'd expect to see something similar to this: "/dev/dm-1 / ext4 rw,relatime,discard,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0"
[02:00] <TJ-> Zelrik: OK, so that warning you got looks like a false hint, we have to dig deeper
[02:00] <Zelrik> and the line above rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[02:00] <TJ-> Zelrik: give me a few minutes, I'll read the sudo source code see what causes it to throw out that hint
[02:01] <rahuldev> hi what could be the difference between "sudo apt upgrade" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[02:02] <zykotick9> rahuldev: the outcome should be the same.  apt is just a newer program...
[02:02] <zykotick9> rahuldev: actually sorry, there _is_ a difference.  ".. apt upgrade" will update MORE then "apt-get upgrade"
[02:03] <rahuldev> zykotick9, thanks!
[02:03] <MannyLNJ> Help please. What is the correct command line to use ddrescue to copy a failing drive that is under /media/ubuntu/OS to /media/ubuntu/dave
[02:04] <zykotick9> rahuldev: "apt upgrade" is _closer_ to "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:04] <TJ-> Zelrik: did you install something like the Yubikey PAM modules?
[02:04] <Zelrik> TJ not sure
[02:04] <PMT> Anybody around with kdump familiarity who wants to help?
[02:04] <Zelrik> doesnt ring a bell
[02:04] <PMT> Hi all, I'm trying to get a kernel dump on Ubuntu 15.10 amd64, I have crashdumprecipe configured correctly, if I do a c > /proc/sysrq-trigger I get a nice dump in /var/crash, but when the actual panic that I'm trying to diagnose happens, I'm getting files full of 0x00 in /var/crash. Do I need to tell the crash kernel "no, really, make sure it flushes to disk before you reboot" somehow?
[02:05] <TJ-> Zelrik: the reason I ask is someone else reports the same issue, and its down to additional PAM modules (might not be just YUBI):  http://askubuntu.com/questions/501538/how-to-check-if-fstab-file-is-correct-without-sudo
[02:06] <TJ-> Zelrik: do you see "YubiKey for ..." when invoking 'sudo' ?
[02:06] <Zelrik> no I dont
[02:06] <MannyLNJ> Help please. What is the correct command line to use ddrescue to copy a failing drive that is under /media/ubuntu/OS to /media/ubuntu/dave
[02:09] <Guest8707> how in the handwriting recognition in Ubuntu?
[02:10] <christia1> .
[02:12] <TJ-> Zelrik: OK, so you must have some other customised PAM modules installed from a 3rd party repository under 12.04 which are not compatible with 14.04
[02:13] <istok> something strange, in my neighbourhood, with the ubuntu and some VLC
[02:13] <Zelrik> ok
[02:14] <istok> anyone else every have any issue with 14.04.5 and terminal window, while VLC is running?
[02:14] <JeDa> mp
[02:14] <istok> it seems to open fine, without VLC, but when I'm watching something, the terminal will open at randomised x/y
[02:14] <JeDa> no*
[02:14] <Guest8707> does Ubuntu have handwriting recognition?
[02:14] <istok> by fine, I mean in the same place as I left it, when I closed
[02:15] <nicomachus> Guest8707: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lucid/tegaki-recognize/
[02:15] <TJ-> Zelrik: so you need to identify the possible sources of such modules via the now-disabled 12.04 apt repositories, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:17] <TJ-> Zelrik: once you've identified the possible sources you'll have to find out what exact package-names would have been installed from those, and then check on the system if they are, in fact, installed. If so, then those would be the first to investigate by removing them
[02:17] <Zelrik> I see tor, some custom fonts and bitcoin stuff
[02:18] <Guest8707> the handwriting recognition on Windows 10 iS sweet
[02:18] <istok> very weird. I've search google, there doesn't appear to be any bug/complaints regarding terminal+VLC and it messing with position and I can't find any other package (visual/audio) that causes the same issue
[02:18] <leonic> how can i changue where ubuntu save the current system
[02:18] <TJ-> Zelrik: I'm not sure how else you can identify additions, unless the package added its own file under /etc/pam.d/ and you can recognise it by name
[02:18] <leonic> i mean i am in a borroed laptop but i have no space
[02:19] <Guest8707> this is from my chicken scratch
[02:19] <mdxxx> is there a lubuntu channel on freenet?
[02:19] <Zelrik> not sure why I have a bunch of multiverse repos uncommented
[02:19] <bleach> Humm, lost my connection...
[02:19] <TJ-> Zelrik: maybe if you compare the files list of /etc/pam.d/ from my 14.04 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000655/
[02:19] <nicomachus> mdxxx: there is at #lubuntu, but you can also ask here
[02:20] <bleach> Looking for an answer to a really strange eth0 behaviour question.  2 of my systems periodically loose the DHCP assigned ipv4 address.
[02:20] <Zelrik> I have gdm in addition to lightdm
[02:21] <TJ-> bleach: are those systems using Network Manager to control the lease via its private dhclient instance?
[02:21] <bleach> Tj;  No, its just straight DHCP from the router.
[02:22] <TJ-> Zelrik: OK, I doubt 'gdm' would be an issue. its possible there's been a change in the text of one of those files to call on some other module. Can you see which file(s) were most recently changed by their timestamps? Those would be the ones I'd look inside, firstly
[02:22] <Zelrik> its  the only difference I have
[02:22] <TJ-> bleach: so the PCs are not using Network Manager? They're using /etc/network/interfaces manually defined?
[02:23] <Zelrik> gdm is the new stuff
[02:24] <Zelrik> gdm-launch-environment and gdm-password
[02:24] <Zelrik> both are from today
[02:24] <bleach> Tj;  Looks like I might be confusing what you are asking me.  I do not have them set for static ip and indeed I have not done anything to the network configuration since installation.  That is it is the same setup that was created by the installers.
[02:27] <TJ-> bleach: OK, that means Network Manager service is responsible. That's good, because it does a lot of verbose logging in /var/log/syslog. NM uses a private instance of 'dhclient' to contact the DHCP server, obtain and manage a lease, so I'd look in syslog at the dhclient specific parts, especially when the lease is not renewed, for clues
[02:27] <bleach> Tj;  I have been around the UNIX/Linux world since before Slackware 0.9 and have never seen an interface 'forget' its assigned address on any machine before and now I have 2 different one doing the same thing!
[02:28] <bleach> OK Thanks Tj, I go take a look now since it just did it again about a half an hour ago!
[02:29] <TJ-> bleach: check if the private dhclient instances are still running with "ps -efly | grep dhclient" - you'd expect to see something with paths that prominently include "NetworkManager" paths under /var/
[02:29] <PMT> Just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexec-tools/+bug/1525746 about the issue, let's see whether I or someone on launchpad figures it out first.
[02:30] <TJ-> bleach: here's an example of what to expect from my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000725/
[02:30] <Zelrik> TJ-, is there a way to disable gdm PAMs?
[02:31] <TJ-> Zelrik: move the file out of /etc/pam.d/ temporarily
[02:32] <Zelrik> permission denied
[02:32] <TJ-> Zelrik: of course - you need sudo :D
[02:33] <Zelrik> if I need sudo to fix sudo, I wont make much progress
[02:33] <Zelrik> lol
[02:33] <TJ-> Zelrik: you'd be best rebooting into Recovery mode, getting a 'root' shell, remounting the root file-system read-write, and doing it
[02:33] <TJ-> Zelrik: even as 'root' you can call sudo, so you may be able to reproduce the issue but not be limited in trying to fix it since you're already 'root'
[02:34] <TJ-> bleach: a better example of DHCP lease renewal including IPv4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000742/
[02:36] <popnfloss> what would be better for an external drive for movies,tvshows,etc.
[02:36] <popnfloss> xfs or ext4
[02:37] <bleach> Tj; http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[02:39] <ignis-fatuus> Need help with hanging sys at reboot/shutdown --> here a pick of what I get after two minutes of a black screen with a blinking cursor: http://i.imgur.com/KI7oaqy.jpg
[02:40] <Zelrik> hmm
[02:40] <Zelrik> I am logged as root
[02:40] <Zelrik> I tried an apt-get install -f
[02:41] <Zelrik> I get a conflict between libpam-smbpass and samba-libs
[02:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> kernel panic, Zelrik
[02:42] <TJ-> Zelrik: good catch
[02:42] <Drone4four__> hey TJ-, i tried installing the latest nvidia drivers and i also tried booting w/o nomodeset and x still won't start.  new Xorg.0.log file in full can be found in my forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306173&p=13406380
[02:43] <Zelrik> not sure how to fix that conflict
[02:45] <TJ-> Drone4four__: that indicates there's a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - can you pastebin that file. It is very possible that file is not required so you could move it to a back-up name and restart the DM session with "service lightdm restart"
[02:45] <Mdxxx>  
[02:46] <TJ-> Zelrik: identify the installed package versions: "apt-cache policy libpam-smbpasswd samba-libs"
[02:47] <Drone4four__> yeah when x still didn't start, i tried: nvidia-xconfig which created an xorg.conf  . i prolly should have mentioned this in my forum post . i'll pastebin that file right now
[02:47] <dimitry7> hi
[02:47] <tweety5> what's the main philosophical diff btw ubuntu and debian?
[02:49] <Drone4four__> TJ-, i just checked /etc/X11/ and there is no xorg.conf file present
[02:49] <Zelrik> TJ it looks like libpam-smbpass is installed
[02:50] <Zelrik> but I cant uninstall it
[02:50] <Drone4four__> this is on my mounted / partition (not my live usb)
[02:51] <TJ-> Drone4four__: that is strange, the log wouldn't have "[   113.495] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" " uunless it is found
[02:51] <regedit> so
[02:51]  * regedit glares accusingly at everyone
[02:52] <regedit> who removed nvidia drivers > 352 from wily repos
[02:52] <TJ-> Drone4four__: the only thing in that log I wonder about is you've still not "nomodeset" on the kernel command-line, although as the nvidia driver doesn't report any issues it may not be relevant. It looks more likely a user profile issue now
[02:53] <Drone4four__> TJ-,  ah ok ...what does a user profile issue mean?
[02:53] <regedit> vivid had nvidia 355 and 358 already, what does it take for wily to get those too?
[02:53] <TJ-> Drone4four__: it could be the driver is working correctly, but the user login session is failing, what exactly happens when the system boots?
[02:54] <TJ-> Drone4four__: I'd expect you to see the greeter for log-in, enter password, see it flicker as it tries to switch to the user session... sometimes that fails and it returns to the greeter
[02:55] <Drone4four__> TJ-, when it boots, it doesn't reach gdm. it just exits to a VT. i enter my username and pass and i'm in a shell. no gui .  i enter, startzx and its just a black screen. i switch to VT 1 and do a Ctrl + C and there is a X11 traceback
[02:55] <Drone4four__> startx*
[02:56] <TJ-> regedit: no, vivid has the same
[02:56] <regedit> TJ-: not in my Driver Manager apparently
[02:56] <regedit> TJ-: am i on the wrong repos?
[02:56] <TJ-> Drone4four__: don't do 'startx' do "service lightdm start"
[02:56] <TJ-> regedit: you tell me :D
[02:56] <Zelrik> yay
[02:56] <Zelrik> I fixed sudo
[02:56] <regedit> TJ-: how should i know? :D i recently upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10
[02:56] <TJ-> Drone4four__: or 'service start gdm' if you've replaced with that
[02:57] <TJ-> Zelrik: Well done!
[02:57] <Drone4four__> i don't use lightdm . i use gdm.  so should i try, service gdm start?
[02:57] <Drone4four__> ok yes
[02:57] <Drone4four__> i'll try that and brb
[02:57] <Drone4four__> thanks TJ-
[02:57] <Zelrik> TJ, I did sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-resinstreq libpam-smbpass
[02:58] <Zelrik> I mean without sudo
[02:58] <Zelrik> then apt-get install -f
[02:58] <TJ-> Zelrik: OK, so it was libpam-smbpass
[02:58] <Zelrik> and fixed some minor stuff
[02:58] <TJ-> Zelrik: good, amazing sometimes how something so seemingly minor can cause such large problems
[02:59] <Zelrik> yeah
[02:59] <regedit> TJ-: here's my apt-cache policy http://paste.ubuntu.com/14000900/ anything wrong or missing?
[02:59] <Zelrik> I didnt expect to go that deep tonight
[03:00] <Zelrik> I like to take it easy on sunday nights usually
[03:00] <RoadRunner> need advice with choosing a distro
[03:00] <TJ-> regedit: nvidia-352 is the latest in the archives for 15.04 and 15.10, so if you had a later release it came from a PPA or other 3rd party. Did the release-upgrade disable the ubuntu gpu-drivers PPA by chance?
[03:01] <regedit> TJ-: ah maybe it did, i do remember seeing some sort of message about 3rd party repos being turned off
[03:01] <regedit> TJ-: where can i view all these 3rd party / PPAs that may have been turned off?
[03:02] <TJ-> regedit: right, check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and you'll need to rename the file from .list.save to just .list, and edit the file internals replacing 'vivid' with 'wily'
[03:02] <bleach> Tj;  what version and flavor are you running?
[03:02] <regedit> TJ-: ok, i shall blindly do so :)
[03:03] <TJ-> regedit: it should be, if I am guessing correctly, the 'graphics-drivers.list'
[03:03] <TJ-> bleach: 15.10 amd64
[03:03] <bleach> Tj; Unity?
[03:04] <Gerowen> Any idea why Ubuntu Gnome goes to sleep as soon as it's done booting up?
[03:04] <TJ-> bleach: No, KDE, XFCE or LXDE
[03:04] <regedit> TJ-: awesome ok. Who is that ppa BTW? i thought i removed the xorg-edgers repo because i thought 355 (and even 358?) went into the official mainline or something?
[03:04] <TJ-> regedit: xorg-edgers was the one that publishes the nightly stack which would break
[03:04] <bleach> Tj;  Humm, I'm running XFCE and my log does not look much like yours.
[03:05] <TJ-> regedit: I'm pretty sure I recall getting you to switch to the graphics-drivers PPA, at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[03:05] <regedit> TJ-: right, and at some point i thought someone said that they were merged into mainline ubuntu release packages?...
[03:05] <regedit> ahh ok
[03:05] <regedit> so that's not the official ubuntu packages then?
[03:05] <TJ-> bleach: did you manually configure the networking ?
[03:06] <bleach> Tj;  I do have the bound reponse message.  No I did not but maybe I should as that has always worked on previous releases.
[03:06] <TJ-> regedit: the graphics-drivers is semi-official, in that is there specifically to provide the latest proprietary packages only
[03:06] <regedit> TJ-: gotcha, thanks
[03:06] <TJ-> bleach: NM relies on dhclient; if dhclient isn't obtaining a renewal then something is wrong there
[03:06] <bleach> Tj;  Let me do some checking...
[03:07] <Gerowen> Nvm, I figured out why it goes to sleep as soon as it starts up, I have a laptop closed up and connected to an external monitor.  It was sleeping because the lid was closed.  Options changed, :-)
[03:07] <bleach> TJ;  Also, if ignis-fatuus comes back while I'm away let him know I'll be right back, OK?
[03:07] <TJ-> bleach: OK, although its likely I'm going to bed :)
[03:08] <bleach> Tj;  AH!  Where are you?
[03:08] <TJ-> bleach: England. it's 03:08
[03:09] <bleach> Nighty Night!  and thanks1
[03:10] <regedit> yo TJ- bro, we need you back!
[03:11] <regedit> :p
[03:11] <regedit> oh he left for the night
[03:11] <regedit> oh well
[03:12] <regedit> can anyone guide me how does it work after release upgrade to update all custom apt repositories to appropriate new ones?
[03:12] <MannyLNJ> Hello. I'm using a Ubuntu live USB stick and need to copy files from /dev/sda3 which is a failing NTFS drive to the partiton mounted at /media/ubuntu/65E6E7A8706B60B5 which I think is /dev/sdb2
[03:15] <Zelrik> I have more issues TJ
[03:15] <Zelrik> I can't boot ubuntu anymore
[03:15] <Zelrik> only in recovery mode
[03:16] <regedit> Zelrik: looks like he logged off for the night
[03:16] <regedit> our savior and leader
[03:16] <regedit> :P
[03:17] <regedit> Zelrik: when boot fails, you usually need to bootup ubuntu from a USB stick, install and run the "boot-repair" tool
[03:17] <regedit> there could be other good things you can do from recovery tho
[03:18] <regedit> Zelrik: for example i believe there's an option there to fix/update grub, try that
[03:18] <regedit> as well as fix packages and stuff
[03:19] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: if you run "df -H" in terminal, it'll show you whats mounted where and how much space it has, should help you confirm
[03:20] <MannyLNJ> ProbablyAndy, the failing dive is NOT showing as mounted and the good drive is /deb/sdb2 according to that command
[03:21] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: have you tried to mount it?  I should think that would be done automatically.
[03:21] <MannyLNJ> ProbablyAndy, Wont mount I get a failed to write lock message
[03:23] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: i think your best bet is ddrescue,
[03:24] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: https://www.technibble.com/guide-using-ddrescue-recover-data/
[03:24] <MannyLNJ> ProbablyAndy, you are Probaly correct and I read that URL during one of my many google searches and it confuses me to no end
[03:25] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: basically the idea is that ddrescue dumps all the data off the drive and onto a good one, without mounting it.  Then you can use other tools to sift through the data and hopefully recover something.
[03:27] <Drone4four> did TJ- leave?
[03:28] <regedit_> Drone4four: yup
[03:28] <Drone4four> thanks regedit_
[03:32] <RoadRunner> how is ubuntu better than debian?
[03:33] <artois> RoadRunner: it isn't
[03:33] <gambl0re> anyone here have experience installing node/npm using nvm?
[03:34] <artois> gambl0re: nvm is a name of a thing? Heh
[03:34] <gambl0re> ?
[03:35] <ProbablyAndy> RoadRunner: "better" probably isn't the right word.  Different maybe.  If you want shiny new stuff, then ubuntu is probably ok.  If you want something stable, then debian.
[03:35] <Drone4four> i recently updated my kernel (with regular repos, no third party ones) and I also recently updated my nvidia drivers . I was also playing with plymouth.  Now gdm and lightdm won't start. Booting takes me to a VT. I get this traceback when I attempt to run, $ service gdm start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001064/  dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001029/ Xorg.0.log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001111/
[03:35] <RoadRunner> artois: then why did someone expend the effort to create it rather than continuing with debian?
[03:35] <artois> Ubuntu doesn't really have newer things than Debian; incredibly common misconception
[03:35] <artois> RoadRunner: well, I imagine someone wanted to get paid; Canonical is a for-profit company
[03:36] <artois> it could've been ideological, though <shrug>
[03:36] <ProbablyAndy> ubuntu isn't more bleeding edge than debian?
[03:36] <inteus> !ot
[03:36] <ProbablyAndy> right, that.
[03:37] <artois> ProbablyAndy: it can't be, it's sourced from Debian
[03:38] <Hitechcg> Ubuntu is buggy, for one
[03:38] <RoadRunner> ProbablyAndy: artois: ok, guys bfr we get in trouble lets continue in ubuntu-offtopic (although I don't think my question is off topic...)
[03:39] <Hitechcg> Good idea
[03:40] <Hitechcg> #ubuntu = everyone thinks everything is off-topic, #ubuntu-offtopic = half the time not even about Ubuntu
[03:40] <artois> RoadRunner: don't let the people who want to be ops for reasons unknown bother you =P
[03:40] <MannyLNJ> ProbablyAndy, I found a reprint of that guide with working images. It's running now
[03:41] <ProbablyAndy> MannyLNJ: good luck.  always a little hair raising to have to do that kind stuff.  Backups!
[03:41] <transhuman__> hi can anyone recommend a gui for a firewall on ubuntu I dont like gufw its too basic and is missing features, or at least they dont seem to work (namely denying a certain ip to all ports (ranges dont seem to take)
[03:43] <transhuman__> never mind found a better one
[03:50] <Gerowen> Anybody know why my desktops in Gnome are jacked up?  I only have one, and when I try to move windows onto a new one, nothing happens, everything is stuck on this one desktop.
[03:50] <tlt> transhuman__, or make arbitrary rows through gufw and edit them manually
[03:51] <badbodh> Gerowen, open gnome-tweak-tool and check if you disabled dynamic desktop by accident
[03:52] <Gerowen> Nope
[03:53] <django_> hey all
[03:53] <Gerowen> badbodh: Soon as gtk-recordmydesktop finishes installing I'll show you what's happening.
[03:53] <django_> is ubuntu good at predicting the battery life?
[03:53] <badbodh> ok
[03:53] <badbodh> django_, please state your specific problem.
[03:54] <django_> badbodh, i forgot my laptop charger for the night and i wanna know how much time i have left :/
[03:54] <Hitechcg> django_: In my opinion, it's okay, but tends to estimate a bit high
[03:54] <django_> :/
[03:54] <django_> it says 3hr 43 min
[03:54] <kadiro> hello, can any one tell me where to found official application for vdr-sc pluging and vdr-plugin-dvbapi ?
[03:55] <Hitechcg> What are you planning to do on it and for how long?
[03:55] <kadiro> me?
[03:55] <badbodh> django_, time varies depending on what apps you are running
[03:55] <kadiro> \o badbodh
[03:56] <django_> true
[03:56] <Hitechcg> kadiro: no, django_
[03:56] <badbodh> run a flashplayer hd video and 3hr 43min ends inside an hour :D
[03:56] <badbodh> kadiro, what's vdr ?
[03:57] <kadiro> badbodh: video disk recorder
[03:57] <Gerowen> badbodh: The option "Workspaces only on primary display" was enabled.  When I disabled it, the issue fixed itself.
[03:57] <badbodh> Gerowen, ah
[03:57] <Gerowen> badbodh: I guess when it's enabled, it sees each monitor as a workspace, and since I only have one monitor, that's what was going on.
[03:58] <badbodh> forget about it, 'gnome-shell is a bug'.
[04:00] <badbodh> kadiro, https://github.com/manio/vdr-plugin-dvbapi
[04:00] <kadiro> badbodh: thank you, i hop this time it work XD
[04:01] <kadiro> ah no it is from source
[04:01] <badbodh> yes. chop chop...
[04:01] <badbodh> make a .deb out of it
[04:01] <kadiro> i already compiled it from that source and got incompatibility
[04:03] <badbodh> kadiro, do you ever bloody google ? https://launchpad.net/~aap/+archive/ubuntu/vdr
[04:03] <badbodh> and get your tushy to mint channels, i know you're not on ubuntu :/
[04:04] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[04:04] <carrera> I finally installed Ubuntu MATE 15.10 on my new Asus G751 laptop
[04:04] <badbodh> yay! good job
[04:04] <kadiro> badbodh: that link is ppa, tested already, not stable, crashing in first place
[04:04] <carrera> badbodh, thanks dude
[04:04] <kadiro> i want an official one
[04:04] <carrera> but I have a problem
[04:05] <badbodh> carrera, go on
[04:05] <carrera> I can login at tty1,  I can ssh in but I can not login at the light-dm prompt
[04:05] <carrera> it says, "Failed to start session"
[04:05] <badbodh> tweak lightdm's conf to enable ssh
[04:06] <kadiro> badbodh: i tryed many channel of linux, no one have clue about vdr :/
[04:06] <badbodh> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf i guess , or look in /usr/share/lightdm...
[04:06] <carrera> I Googled but I found 2 solutions, namely installing or reinstalling ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-session
[04:07] <kadiro> badbodh: thank you anyway :D i will test in mint if any one have little info about that XD
[04:08] <carrera> badbodh, no lightdm.conf
[04:08] <carrera> only lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[04:08] <badbodh> carrera, you meant ssh login right? or the normal local user-account login ?
[04:08] <carrera> yes sir
[04:08] <carrera> both
[04:08] <carrera> I can login from both
[04:08] <carrera> I used Netinstall and ticked ssh server during the install
[04:10] <badbodh> "Failed to start session" <--- which session ?
[04:10] <carrera> gui session
[04:10] <carrera> tty7
[04:11] <badbodh> unity ?
[04:11] <carrera> MATE
[04:11] <carrera> wait a sec
[04:12] <badbodh> oh forgot :P ok. log into your local account using tty, your home directory should have something like .xsession-errors
[04:12] <carrera> I have lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu-mate.conf on my old laptop, also running Ubuntu MATE 15.10
[04:12] <carrera> but that file is not on the new laptop
[04:13] <badbodh> run "cat ~/.xsession-errors|pastebinit " and gimme the link
[04:14] <badbodh> run 'ls -a|grep error' to check the exact file name, dunno if it's .xsession-- or .Xsession-- , i forget
[04:14] <carrera> run it as me or root?
[04:15] <badbodh> no root. your regular account
[04:15] <carrera> ok
[04:15] <carrera> ls -a | grep error   returned nothing
[04:16] <carrera> ls -a does not show either file
[04:17] <carrera> this is all I have:
[04:17] <carrera> .   .bash_history  .bashrc  .dmrc     .sudo_as_admin_successful
[04:17] <carrera> ..  .bash_logout   .cache   .profile
[04:18] <nicomachus> !paste | carrera
[04:18] <badbodh> first gotta figure out if lightdm's fault or mate's , install another dm and see if you get "Failed to start session" again
[04:19] <carrera> nicomachus, ok, thanks
[04:19] <carrera> badbodh, should I reinstall ubuntu-mate-desktop?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> carrera: In your /home directoy " ls -al .xsession-errors >> -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 537 May 22  2013 .xsession-errors " should return similar .
[04:19] <badbodh> that's just a meta-package, re-installing that won't do
[04:20] <carrera> http://sourcedigit.com/16407-how-to-fix-failed-to-start-session-at-ubuntu-login/
[04:21] <carrera> I don't even have a lightdm.conf file
[04:21] <badbodh> carrera, no harm in doing that. reinstall what he says then
[04:23] <Dylan____>  Hello guys my macbook pro once again has encounted a blackscreen
[04:23] <Dylan____> I caught a glimpse and it said about the neavou driver
[04:23] <Dylan____> Anyone help?
[04:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> !rescue | Dylan____
[04:24] <Dylan____> Never mind it just worked
[04:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> woot
[04:24] <Dylan____> Must have been some glitch
[04:24] <Dylan____> Idk
[04:24] <nicomachus> rescued.
[04:24] <RoadRunner> changed res on the monitor and now can't boot into ubuntu's/lubuntu's gui; if boot from a USB stick, where would I find the monitor config file to change the res back?
[04:25] <dotpixis> this is a stupid question; but how do i get ibus daemon to autostart when i boot?
[04:25] <Dylan____> Guys i encounted system problem:/
[04:25] <carrera> badbodh, cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log --> Seat seat0: Can't find session 'ubuntu'
[04:25] <carrera> but my session should be ubuntu-mate
[04:25] <dotpixis> Dylan____: what's the problem?
[04:25] <Dylan____> Omg
[04:26] <Dylan____> Well i just got system problem
[04:26] <Dylan____> And it was with the xorg
[04:26] <badbodh> carrera, ok now i get it. you installed unity greeter.
[04:26] <dotpixis> x needs to die
[04:26] <badbodh> should have used gtk greeter
[04:26] <nicomachus> it's on the way out, dotpixis
[04:26] <carrera> badbodh, I should probably change user-session to ubuntu-mate but lightdm.conf does not exist on either of my systems
[04:26] <dotpixis> good
[04:26] <nicomachus> Dylan____: gonna need more info about that "system problem"
[04:27] <Dylan____> And it has stuff about xserver-xorg-core problem type crash  it says k have some obsolete package installed
[04:27] <Dylan____> Well how do i give u more info when i cant pastebin it?
[04:27] <badbodh> carrera, install 'apt-file' , then run 'apt-file list <package name>|pastebinit" , <package name> = your lightdm packages
[04:27] <badbodh> there has to be a conf somewhere :)
[04:28] <happyface> hi, can anyone help me uninstall lubuntu-desktop? I went through lots of forums. Still nothing
[04:28] <Dylan____> Sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <Dylan____> :)
[04:28] <happyface> That didnt work
[04:28] <Dylan____> Really?
[04:28] <Dylan____> Thats strange
[04:29] <happyface> i still have lubuntu environment
[04:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface make sure you reboot, and log into whatever desktop you prefer. then run sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:29] <Dylan____> U should be able to uninstall lubuntu with thst
[04:29] <badbodh> happyface, it's a metapackage. "apt-cache info lubuntu-desktop" to see all dependencies and remove each one of them
[04:29] <Dylan____> Nvm
[04:29] <Dylan____> Let the experts take it
[04:29] <happyface> ok
[04:30] <carrera> badbodh:  root      1063     1  0 07:54 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:30] <happyface> I will do that , SeriouslyLaugh, badbodh.
[04:30] <Dylan____> How lightweight can xubuntu get?
[04:30] <pyoor> Hi all.  I'm having an issue updating my icon theme.  I've changed the theme in Unity Tweak and it works for almost everything, but the icons in my launcher won't update
[04:30] <pyoor> any idea why?
[04:30] <Dylan____> Cause when i looked into ubuntu like last year and cause im running a 2010 7,1 macbook im had trouble deciding what distro to go
[04:31] <badbodh> carrera, i need the whole list of files installed. gimme pastebinit link, you can type it here
[04:31] <Dylan____> But i went with xubuntu and i wanna make it so lighteeight
[04:31] <nicomachus> pyoor: did you try to reboot?
[04:32] <pyoor> nicomachus: yes.  I've had this issue before and logging in/out or a reboot would usually solve it
[04:32] <pyoor> this time however, it won't
[04:33] <carrera> badbodh, ok
[04:33] <carrera> badbodh, when I restart, it says starting lightdm
[04:35] <happyface> badbodh: It says invalid operation info
[04:35] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: It didnt work
[04:35] <badbodh> happyface, sorry not 'info' , it's 'show' :)
[04:35] <j1nx_> anyone here know if there are Razor keyboard/mouse drivers for ubuntu?
[04:37] <badbodh> carrera, i'll need a list of all files lightdm (and other lightdm-related packages) have installed on your system. i'm not on ubuntu so can;t say exactly which file to edit.
[04:38] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: badbodh: is there anyway i can get my terminal back. After i installed lxde, terminal is full black. I cant see anything
[04:38] <badbodh> you did net-install you say, you should be remembering package names. gimme results of "apt-file list <package name>|pastebinit" , if you don;t have 'pastebinit' and 'apt-file' installed please do so. very handy tools.
[04:39] <badbodh> gimme all lightdm and related package's (greeters) file list ^ by that method
[04:39] <SeriouslyLaugh> i'm sure there's a config file for the terminal somewhere. not really sure.
[04:39] <badbodh> happyface, what terminal are you using ?
[04:39] <kadiro> .bashrc
[04:40] <badbodh> kadiro, nope!
[04:40] <kadiro> yes
[04:40] <happyface> the default one. badbodh.
[04:40] <pmaxk> ~/bashrc in ubuntu
[04:40] <kadiro> :))
[04:41] <happyface> badbodh: Now whenever i want to type a command i go to tty1
[04:41] <badbodh> happyface, which ubuntu flavour are you on? each uses a diff terminal by default
[04:41] <happyface> ubuntu 14.04 badbodh
[04:42] <badbodh> unity?
[04:42] <carrera> badbodh, apt-file is updating
[04:42] <zykotick9> happyface: doesn't lxde's terminal have a menu for settings?  if not look, see if you have a ~/.Xresources and perhaps move it to .Xresource.back (it's NOT ~/.bashrc)
[04:42] <happyface> badbodh: I want pure unity back. Now it is mixed with lxde buttons and display
[04:43] <badbodh> maybe you should do a fresh install and stick to a single desktop environment for now. learn stuff, find your way around ubuntu.
[04:44] <badbodh> running multiple desktops is a dirty business, hard to remove and tricky to share configs between two DE-s
[04:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> can't he just log out and log back into a unity session?
[04:44] <badbodh> if you want lxde , use lubuntu
[04:45] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: badbodh: I dont want lxde anymore, i want plane old ubuntu with my files and my programs
[04:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface i think you can log out, and before typing your passord before logging in again, pick a different session
[04:46] <kadiro> o.o
[04:46] <happyface> zykotick9: I didnt understand.
[04:46] <badbodh> happyface, best bet, create a new user account and migrate your files to new account's home folder
[04:46] <pmaxk> happyface, old ubuntu ith unity?
[04:46] <badbodh> just don;t copy the hidden (starts with .dot) files
[04:46] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: Yeah i can do that. But my unity is compromised. It has weird display after i installed lubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <happyface> pmaxk: I mean the inbuilt one
[04:47] <happyface> pmaxk: 14.04
[04:47] <carrera> badbodh, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001538/
[04:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface you can probably drop into a shell and reinstall Unity
[04:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> and purge the other DE
[04:48] <pmaxk> happyface, http://askubuntu.com/questions/453841/how-to-remove-lubuntu-desktop-from-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[04:48] <kadiro> any official vdr channel in freenode server?
[04:49] <badbodh> carrera, two files worth looking at. /etc/init/lightdm.conf and /etc/lightdm/users.conf , run "cat <file>|pastebinit"
[04:50] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh:  How do i do that?
[04:50] <happyface> pmaxk: tried it already. Did not work.
[04:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface ctrl+alt+f3 to drop into a shell. then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface define did not work -- did you get errors?
[04:51] <badbodh> happyface, scroll down in pmaxk's link, read the "dirty" reply with lots of info. that's how tedious it is to remove a metapackage :)
[04:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> might be easier to nuke and pave
[04:52] <pmaxk> yes ,you have metapakages,that is your problem
[04:53] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: when i entered whereis lxde, it gave the output lxde:
[04:53] <happyface> SeriouslyLaugh: when i entered whereis lxde, it gave the output as "lxde: "
[04:53] <regedit> is there a graphical tool that manages /usr/share/autostart/ ?
[04:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> happyface i've not done this so i can't really offer much help aside from googling possible solutions for you
[04:54] <badbodh> carrera, also /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_ubuntu.conf , these four files have all the stuff i need. cat them with |pastebinit
[04:55] <badbodh> regedit, nope. only ~/.config/autostart has gui management tools
[04:56] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001604/
[04:57] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001607/
[04:57] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001610/
[04:58] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001618/
[05:01] <badbodh> carrera, clean. now more files :
[05:01] <badbodh> lightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-greeter-wrapper.conf
[05:01] <badbodh> lightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-guest-wrapper.conf
[05:01] <badbodh> lightdm: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf
[05:01] <regedit> badbodh: I have Kubuntu, what could have possible placed "kmix_autostart.desktop" and "restore_kmix_volumes.desktop" in /usr/share/autostart? i want this annoying window to not be present upon startup
[05:01] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001656/
[05:02] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001660/
[05:02] <badbodh> regedit, use "apt-file search ****.desktop" to find out
[05:02] <carrera> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14001663/
[05:03] <regedit> badbodh: command not found?
[05:03] <badbodh> regedit, install 'apt-file' first
[05:06] <regedit> badbodh: thanks!
[05:07] <badbodh> carrera, you have an awful lot of greeters installed. and i can;t even find the conf file that declares which greeter you are using. i hate ubuntu :P
[05:08] <carrera> badbodh, damn
[05:08] <carrera> badbodh, I compared the last 3 greeter files to my working laptop, also runing 15.10 and they were all the same
[05:08] <badbodh> carrera, wise thing will be installing from a regular ubuntu-mate iso, and compare the files i mentioned above.
[05:09] <carrera> badbodh, I can't.  The bloody nouveau driver crashes the installation
[05:10] <carrera> badbodh, also I need to do a Netinstall, cause Ubuntu stopped including dmraid in their desktop cds since 12.04
[05:11] <carrera> badbodh, I dunno why they don't put dmraid and proper nvidia drivers in their desktop CDs, cause the size is already above 1.1 GB, so we need a DVD to burn it on anyway
[05:12] <badbodh> carrera, i saw kde mythbuntu and some other greeter packages. did you install those manually or got autoinstalled ?
[05:12] <carrera> badbodh, I reinstalled lightdm before I sent patebin the contents and, obviously, that didn't help either
[05:12] <carrera> badbodh, auto, this is a totally fresh install, expect apt-file and pastebinit
[05:13] <badbodh> carrera, ok whatever greeter you;re on,any way to choose a session ? a button or something
[05:14] <badbodh> what sessions are available ?
[05:14] <carrera> badbodh, I just tried logging in with the Guest Session to no avail
[05:14] <carrera> badbodh, Mine, Session, and Other
[05:14] <badbodh> that's guest account. by session i mean desktop environment. like are you logging into mate, unity or what ?
[05:14] <carrera> badbodh, just MATE
[05:15] <badbodh> anything other than mate available at login screen ?
[05:15] <carrera> badbodh, there is a setting wheel botton on the top right of the screen but it does not open anything!
[05:15] <carrera> badbodh, nope, I only installed MATE
[05:16] <carrera> badbodh, same as my older laptop
[05:16] <badbodh> but does your login screen let you "select mate" ?
[05:16] <carrera> badbodh, could some sort of meta key be on?
[05:17] <badbodh> no keys, only clickety click needed.
[05:17] <pmaxk> carrera, go to cd /usr/share/xsessions , and see what you have
[05:17] <adun153> Hello everyone, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 on an MSI 6QD Apache Pro (NVidia 960m), and the installer doesn't boot properly. Seems like there's a nouveau problem,with lines like "failed to load", and "unsupported engines" "failed to create kernel channel", etc. Last recurring line is "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [plymouthd:260]"
[05:17] <carrera> pmaxk, just mate.desktop
[05:18] <adun153> How can I solve this? Looks like nouveau doesn't support the 960m.
[05:18] <carrera> adun153, good luck!
[05:18] <adun153> Is there a way to force the installer to use the on-board Intel Graphics?
[05:18] <badbodh> pmaxk, very likely his lightdm is improperly configured. but for the life of me i can;t find the specific file that handles which greeter/ which session to set as default :/
[05:19] <badbodh> usually it's /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[05:20] <carrera> adun153, one way is to use the NetInstall (mini.iso) and then install the latest nvidia drivers after the installation (apt-get install nvidia-352-updates)
[05:21] <carrera> adun153, nvidia-352 is the long lived branch which is included in the ubuntu repositories, so all you have to do is run the above command
[05:22] <carrera> adun153, of course, your system will not boot into GUI either, so you will have to use ctl+alt+F1 to access a shell
[05:22] <adun153> Is there a boot parameter I can pass to the dasktop installer, to force it to use the Intel graphics?
[05:22] <carrera> adun153, be patient as it might take some time to get to tty1
[05:22] <adun153> *desktop
[05:23] <carrera> adun153, due to all the error message that the bloody nouveau driver is dumping
[05:23] <pmaxk> badbodh, the file is /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf
[05:23] <carrera> adun153, I don't know man
[05:24] <carrera> adun153, it might be better to try to run the desktop installer in text mode, if that's possible
[05:24] <badbodh> carrera, adun153 it is possible blacklist nuovoeueoueou drivers in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and 'nomodeset' in /etc/default/grub to stop nuvooeueoueou driver
[05:24] <adun153> yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[05:24] <badbodh> https://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver#112306
[05:25] <carrera> adun153, regardless of the way you install ubuntu, you have to install the nvidia-352-updates package on your system after the installation completes
[05:25] <adun153> carrera, will do, thanks.
[05:25] <Hitechcg> nuvooeueoueou
[05:25] <carrera> :-)
[05:26] <badbodh> i can;t spell it.
[05:26] <badbodh> carrera, ^ pmaxk gave the filename. cat and pastebinit
[05:26] <carrera> badbodh, join the club, every time I wanna type nouveau here, I google it cause I don't wanna look any more stupid than I already do
[05:27] <carrera> badbodh, I was looking at it. most config variables are set to "mate"
[05:27] <badbodh> ok. then why doesn;t it mate then ....
[05:28] <carrera> just a sec
[05:28] <badbodh> is it supposed to be 'ubuntu-mate' ?
[05:28] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk , I was looking on my old laptop!
[05:29] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, /usr/share/xsessions does NOT even exist on my new laptop!
[05:29] <badbodh> well, there you have it.
[05:29] <badbodh> did you install mate using some metapackage?
[05:30] <badbodh> looks like you missed mate-session-manager or something
[05:30] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, I just ticked the MATE Desktop package in the mini.iso installation
[05:30] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, like I always do
[05:31] <pmaxk> carrera, honestly you confuse me..
[05:32] <badbodh> re-install mate packages, ones that say mate-desktop, mate-session or similar
[05:32] <carrera> pmaxk, really?
[05:32] <pmaxk> yes sory
[05:32] <badbodh> moments ago you said you had "<carrera> pmaxk, just mate.desktop" , now you say you don;t even have /usr/share/xsession
[05:33] <pmaxk> yes exactly
[05:33] <badbodh> *xsessions
[05:33] <badbodh> we can;t help you from a chat room if you don;t focus buddy.
[05:34] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, you must have not read a line in between, cause I clearly said that I was looking at the wrong box, i.e. my old laptop
[05:34] <badbodh> nope, you started chatting with adun.. on nuveoueoe drivers
[05:35] <carrera> badbodh, yes I did, but I said, "I was looking at my old laptop"
[05:35] <carrera> badbodh, sorry for trying to help someone for once
 badbodh, pmaxk , I was looking on my old laptop!
[05:36] <badbodh> you did that now, should have done that the moment you said "i have .....desktop" , you gave half info :/
[05:36] <carrera> followed by (and no chatting with anyone in between)
[05:36] <carrera> carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, /usr/share/xsessions does NOT even exist on my new laptop!
[05:37] <badbodh> ok buddy we all have scrollback on our client. you have 10 minutes gap between "i have mate.desktop" and "i was looking at old laptop"
[05:38] <carrera> badbodh, that's right
[05:38] <badbodh> please be prompt and concise when you provide info. that's all i'm saying. there's no hate here.
[05:39] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, I created /usr/share/xsessions and copied mate.desktop to it
[05:39] <badbodh> so you got no xsessions folder, means you got package missing. re-install everything that relates to mate
[05:39] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, again to no avail!  :-(
[05:40] <carrera> badbodh, the first thing I did was to reinstall ubuntu-mate-dektop
[05:41] <badbodh> that's just a metapackage. it does nothing.
[05:41] <carrera> badbodh, oh
[05:41] <badbodh> run "apt-cache show ubuntu-mate-desktop" and see dependencies, those are the things you will be re-installing
[05:41] <DirtyCajun> can i install ubuntu server to a usb so i can switch os whneever if i choose?
[05:42] <carrera> Bad_Dream, doesn't it reinstall it's dependencies?
[05:42] <DirtyCajun> but keep all files the same on the HDDs regardles of linux distro?
[05:42] <bobdobbs`> I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 a few weeks ago. I have an nvidia card and two monitors. When I log in to ubuntu, there is no background image
[05:43] <badbodh> run "apt-cache show ubuntu-mate-desktop" and see dependencies, those are the things you will be re-installing
[05:43] <bobdobbs`> When I select a new background image using the system settings, no background image appears.
[05:43] <badbodh> carrera, ^ got disconnected
[05:44] <carrera> badbodh, ubuntu-mate-desktop has too many dependencies
[05:44] <pmaxk> carrera, carrera run in terminal > sudo apt-get install -sy ubuntu-mate-desktop to see without install everythink..
[05:45] <carrera> badbodh, can I do a apt-file -f /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop to see which package it belongs to
[05:45] <Chuddette> tried to use the command "deb" but "no command 'deb' was found" can i use xdeb in its place?
[05:45] <badbodh> focus on packages that say "desktop" or "Session"
[05:46] <badbodh> carrera, you may still be missing out on something else. better to re-install all the packages that say ^ those things.
[05:46] <carrera> pmaxk, badbodh, I ran apt-get install -sy ubuntu-mate-desktop.
[05:46] <pmaxk> sudo
[05:46] <carrera> pmaxk, I'm root already sir
[05:46] <pmaxk> ok
[05:46] <carrera> pmaxk, ubuntu-mate-desktop is already the newest version.
[05:47] <carrera> pmaxk, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:47] <badbodh> pmaxk, a metapackage will just re-install itself, doesn;t affect any deps.
[05:47] <zykotick9> Chuddette: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <badbodh> we need to re-install deps.
[05:47] <pmaxk> ok now what else?
[05:47] <badbodh> Chuddette, "dpkg" handles deb files, not "deb"
[05:47] <pmaxk> carrera
[05:50] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, I just found policykit-desktop-privileges in the ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies
[05:51] <Chuddette> trying to download a package. just realized it wont work because i have to add a certain line to my /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:51] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, the only packate that had desktop or session in it
[05:51] <sudeep> #adhearsion
[05:52] <badbodh> carrera, dangit! install everything in the list. https://i.imgur.com/xcAB1Ok.jpg
[05:53] <pmaxk> :))
[05:53] <carrera> lol
[05:54] <badbodh> it's a net-install, get dirty.
[05:54] <carrera> badbodh, was that from Leo: The Professional?
[05:55] <badbodh> yes
[05:59] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, damn, it's reinstalling LibreOffice
[05:59] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, I'm on a pay-by-usage line
[06:00] <badbodh> carrera, plan before you netinstall. if your graphics gives troubles use nomodeset and blacklist (askbuntu link i shared earlier)
[06:01] <carrera> badbodh, what about RAID0?
[06:01] <carrera> badbodh, I managed to install mdadm from the Live session but I couldn't install GRUB
[06:02] <carrera> badbodh, thanks for the link, I opened it
[06:08] <carrera> badbodh, pmaxk, I reinstalled everything in ubuntu-mate-desktop to NO AVAIL!!!  :(
[06:10] <badbodh> carrera, use lxdm instead of lightdm (should ask for default dm during install)
[06:10] <badbodh> reboot and check
[06:11] <carrera> badbodh, I rebooted already
[06:12] <badbodh> no no, step 1. install lxdm step 2. reboot , then check.
[06:14] <carrera> badbodh,
[06:14] <carrera> badbodh, ok
[06:14] <aj_jaswanth> I am getting gen8_irq thing displaying, master_control interrupt has lied.
[06:20] <carrera> badbodh, can't I use gdm instead of LightDM?
[06:20] <aj_jaswanth> Sometimes, with that master_control_interrupt lied error system is getting hung up.
[06:20] <aj_jaswanth> Only restart is fixing it.
[06:20] <badbodh> carrera, start with something lightweight and easy to handle. gdm is as messy as lightdm
[06:22] <carrera> badbodh, does lxdm install lxde?
[06:22] <badbodh> nope. but do check before pressing 'Y'
[06:23] <carrera> badbodh, it wants to install 36 new packages 5,288 kB
[06:23] <badbodh> oopes. leave it then.
[06:24] <badbodh> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_manager
[06:24] <badbodh> ^ some options
[06:25] <happyface> badbodh: Like you said, i read the "dirty" link and uninstalled lubuntu desktop. Still unity is kinda weird.  Is there a way i can reinstall unity
[06:26] <badbodh> happyface, no need to reinstall anything. your configs are messed up (in your home folder) . create a new user account and copy your documents/pictures etc into the new account;s home folder
[06:27] <Hitechcg> yeah, do "rm -rf --no-preserve-root"
[06:27]  * Hitechcg runs
[06:27] <Hitechcg> no, really, don't do that
[06:28] <badbodh> Hitechcg, ^ that gets you kicked
[06:28] <happyface> badbodh: i dont want to be rude. But is there a way i can repair my configs?
[06:29] <badbodh> happyface, i just told you how ^^ to clean up, everything will go back to default.
[06:30] <badbodh> better to start fresh than hunting down which config is messed up. i've myself had troubles with lxde in the past, playing with it blindly messed up by primary DE
[06:30] <happyface> Ok. Thanks badbodh :)    [what  does badbodh mean anyway?]
[06:31] <logixmorg> Hey everyone, sorry to bother y'all. I recently bought and built a new computer. However it has the new "Secure Boot" from Asus. No matter the install method I do I can't see to get ubuntu server working properly. The closest I got was just a few minutes ago when everything seemed to go fine. Then when it reboot the grub command line popped up. I t
[06:31] <logixmorg> yped boot to find out no kernel to boot from. Any suggestions?
[06:31] <badbodh> !offtopic | happyface
[06:31] <badbodh> :P
[06:33] <badbodh> logixmorg, #ubuntu-server folks will have better idea . mostly newbs like myself in this channel.
[06:33] <logixmorg> Thank you I'll check them out.
[06:34] <carrera> badbodh, thanks for the DM options and all the help
[06:35] <badbodh> carrera, no guarantees man. i'm not ubuntu expert. just sharing stuff from around the webs. netinstall is tricky, each distro has some or another odd quirk. like ubuntu's messy lightdm package
[06:37] <alain> hello, anyone know an alternative to Nova Builder?
[06:37] <Guest75484> got a prob with grub2.0
[06:37] <happyface> badbodh: you were right. But still i am not getting the programs i had in my old account
[06:37] <Guest75484> as  I edited the file /etc/default/grub
[06:37] <Guest75484> I can change the time for which grub menu holds from 10 sec to 30
[06:38] <Guest75484> but images isn't changing
[06:38] <Guest75484> I added the line GRUB_BACKGROUND="path"
[06:38] <Guest75484> but there is some sort of priority I guess, that images isn't loading
[06:38] <badbodh> happyface, in your old home look for ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop
[06:38] <Guest75484> help me out plz
[06:38] <carrera>  badbodh, I have never had any problems with NetInstall in the past
[06:40] <happyface> badbodh: Got it. Then?
[06:40] <badbodh> carrera, i'd suggest to start from scratch again. and don;t use meta-packages without verifying what's getting installed.
[06:40] <badbodh> using metapackages kinda defeats the purpose of netinstall :D
[06:41] <badbodh> happyface, copy/paste the .desktop files in your new home's .local/share/applications/
[06:41] <badbodh> the .desktop files only, don't copy anything else
[06:43] <badbodh> carrera, a little trick could help. don't use any dm and start mate using startx command
[06:44]  * Overlap waves Hello
[06:44] <happyface> badbodh: Ok . done
[06:44] <Overlap> grub2 issue
[06:45] <badbodh> carrera, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc
[06:45] <Overlap> badbodh, can you solve my issue regarding grub2 ?
[06:46] <badbodh> Overlap, no. but do write your complete question here and wait for a response.
[06:47] <happyface> badbodh: what should i do now?
[06:47] <badbodh> any details you can spare. you nick will be highlighted when someone;s ready with an answr
[06:47] <badbodh> stay online till then.
[06:47] <carrera> badbodh, I did a startx in tty1 (not as root) and the display went full black!
[06:47] <badbodh> happyface, you find your old apps now ?
[06:47] <Overlap> I edited /etc/default/grub , I am able to change the default time of 10 sec to 30 sec for which grub menu show menu
[06:47] <carrera> badbodh, I can access other ttys and tty7 still shows LightDM
[06:47] <Overlap> but splash image isn't changing
[06:48] <Overlap> I added the line GRUB_BaCKGROUND="path"
[06:48] <Overlap> but still it isn't working
[06:48] <Overlap> I ran sudo update_grub
[06:48] <badbodh> carrera, start from scratch again. install mate, don't install any -DM, use startx after editing your xinitrc file (link ^ above)
[06:49] <badbodh> should help you find out what's wrong
[06:50] <badbodh> Overlap, "grub background =/path" only changes the background in boot menu (the one you get pressing shift)
[06:52] <badbodh> for splash theme to change run "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth"
[06:52] <badbodh> followed by "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[06:53] <badbodh> do "sudo update-grub" to apply all changes
[07:17] <ub_ubuntu> how to make sure that ssh doesnt start at system startup
[07:17] <julian-delphiki> ub_ubuntu, remove the package?
[07:18] <ub_ubuntu> but i need it
[07:18] <julian-delphiki> okay, then you have to update the init script symlinks... sec.
[07:19] <julian-delphiki> what ubuntu version ub_ubuntu
[07:19] <ub_ubuntu> 15.10
[07:19] <julian-delphiki> ub_ubuntu, `echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/ssh.conf.override` i believe.
[07:21] <ub_ubuntu> okay will try
[07:45] <hcintl> Haven't found tutorial how to switch Ubuntu phone to another distro. Is Ubuntu phone closed or open? Have anyone been able to install another distro into Ubuntu phone?
[07:46] <somsip> !phone | hcintl
[07:57] <goddard> will this rebuild dkms properly
[07:57] <goddard> dkms status | sed s/,//g | awk '{print "-m",$1,"-v",$2}' | while read line; do ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | xargs -n 1 dkms install $line -k; done
[07:57] <goddard> found it online
[07:59] <somsip> goddard: break it down into smaller commands and see if it prepares what you really want to send to dkms install -k
[07:59] <carrera> badbodh, thanks for all your help again
[07:59] <badbodh> carrera, anything works ?
[08:00] <carrera> badbodh, I was eating. going to bed now. It's 11:30 am here and I was up all night
[08:00] <rajeshlaswa> #nkntech
[08:01] <rajeshlaswa> nkntech
[08:08] <dotpixis> How do i get ibus daemon to autostart when i boot
[08:10] <rdertrum> dotpixis: not
[08:11] <dotpixis> rdertrum: ?
[08:12] <dotpixis> op i would like to report abuse
[08:12] <carrera> this is what rdrtrum sent me in private just now:  Welcome to #ubuntu. You dumb goat stinking rotten son of a bitch Bastard!!!
[08:13] <carrera> *rdertrum
[08:14] <dotpixis> me too ( carrera )
[08:15] <dotpixis> ops i looks like he's not even using a proxy
[08:15] <dotpixis> also whatever he's doing he has a bunch of weird services running
[08:16] <carrera> dotpixis, this ip 95.141.29.37?
[08:17] <dotpixis> carrera: in the process of confirming
[08:18] <carrera> he just called me a Nigge:  rdertrum> Nigge
[08:18] <TonySpark> carrera, Just ignore it, best thing to do
[08:19] <elisa87> Hi, any idea how could this be fixed? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34261325/slave-vm-removed-from-list-of-slaves-and-still-being-accessed-by-yarn-tez
[08:19] <carrera> TonySpark, good idea, did you pm you too?
[08:19] <dotpixis> ty DJones =\
[08:22] <SPF> where can I find the release notes of specific packages?
[08:24] <DJones> SPF: I'd have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search for the package, that normally shows a changes text file, maybe a link to release notes
[08:32] <jimsta> hello guys anybody know a good system program that scan the whole system for devices and such
[08:33] <hateball> jimsta: What is it you are looking to do?
[08:38] <jimsta> just to take note of all the device and stuff
[08:41] <mheo> hi
[08:41] <EriC^^> hi
[08:42] <AtuM> Hello. I have a weird issue with an asus x75c laptop.. it has an atheros wifi card using ath9k driver. rfkill shows me that the physical switch (asus-wlan) is hard blocked.. the shortcut key to enable/disable it does not make any difference.
[08:47] <SPF> DJones: thanks
[09:01] <Seveas> SPF: /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ -- there's generally a file named something like CHANGES
[09:09] <Guest51025> server ubuntu apa?
[09:10] <AtuM> does anyone know of a web-gui that can be used to manage existing virtual machines - sort of what virt-manager does
[09:11] <Mathisen> AtuM, virtualbox got that
[09:11] <Mathisen> AtuM, http://www.linuxhomeserverguide.com/server-config/phpVirtualBox.php
[09:11] <AtuM> existing virtual machines - I'm using kvm hypervisor
[09:13] <AtuM> Mathisen, thanx anyway.. I might just use this for one of my next projects
[09:13] <Mathisen> AtuM, maybe http://www.proxmox.com/en/ then... cant say... only used virtualbox myself
[09:16] <alumno_> alo
[09:16] <alumno> HOLA
[09:16] <alumno_> hola bebe
[09:16] <alumno> HHHH
[09:16] <alumno_> ajaja
[09:16] <alumno> HII
[09:17] <alumno_> aloi
[09:17] <alumno> ALIOOOO
[09:19] <twilight> hello everyone, I need to reconfigure my ssh to use a "unique Diffie-Hellman moduli of 2048 bits or greater.". That's because of the Logjam vulenrability.
[09:19] <twilight> I've read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2624-1/ and my system is updated…but I still have the problem. Any ideas on how to proceed?
[09:23] <Ben64> twilight: already been patched
[09:25] <twilight> Ben64: yes I saw that, but my server still fails the PCI compliance test for this. I will check again if everything is updated
[09:28] <YamakasY> what is the size of a trusty mirror atm ?
[09:28] <arsenal> If you purchase any product whose value is more than 50000 you get 10000 discount and if it is less than 50000 you get 20% discount. The validity is for 3 days.
[09:29] <arsenal> test
[09:29] <YamakasY> ?
[09:29]  * YamakasY wonder who likes arsenal anyways :P
[09:29] <arsenal> sorry not meant for this
[09:29] <arsenal> forum
[09:29] <arsenal> lol
[09:29] <YamakasY> hehe
[09:41] <AtuM> I'm trying out WebVirtMgr.. it looks like what I need
[10:02] <seudboerg> Hello together. I have a problem regarding graphics on my notebook and online search did not get anywhere. I work with a dual monitor setup and usually switch to the second, external, monitor through the system settings -> display dialog. Today I used the function keys of my notebook and since then it is impossible to change any display related settings.
[10:03] <seudboerg> When I try to switch to the seconds monitor both, the internal and external screens start flickering and I only get so see graphical glitches.
[10:04] <seudboerg> When I detach the second monitor and try to change the resolution of the internal screen, the flickering starts too.
[10:04] <seudboerg> Rebooting the machine, either with or without the external screen works fine
[10:05] <seudboerg> Does someone have any idea where I can start looking for the problem?
[10:08] <seudboerg> I use Ubuntu 15.10 on a Dell Latitude E6430 with Intel graphics
[10:15] <seudboerg> Okay I solved the problem. It was either a problem with vsync or texture-compression settings in compiz.
[10:18] <windearthfirerai> QUestion: How do I make a AppArmor profile have Default Allow  for all actions, and only deny certain actions?
[10:18] <windearthfirerai> like (deny network)
[10:18] <windearthfirerai> ??
[10:18] <windearthfirerai> is there a "default allow" clause??
[10:26] <help_please> hey guys
[10:26] <help_please> anyone ever setup their ubuntu vm as their gateway
[10:26] <help_please> i have a win7 host, ubuntu vm
[10:26] <help_please> 1 router and 1 switch
[10:27] <help_please> and would like to forward my traffic from windows 7 vm to ubuntu vm
[10:27] <help_please> onto internet
[10:27] <help_please> in ubuntu vm i want to do tcp traffic manipulation via netsed
[10:28] <dotpixis> what is the esaiest way to change my "move to trash"/"delete" option to excecute: "shred -n 20 -z -u file_name" ?
[10:30] <help_please> i
[10:30] <help_please> will paypal
[10:30] <help_please> $20
[10:30] <help_please> for anyone
[10:30] <help_please> who can help me setup
[10:30] <help_please> ubuntu vm
[10:33] <JH151> whois help_please
[10:33] <JH151> Awesome
[10:33] <JH151> help_please: look iptables
[10:34] <help_please> hey
[10:42] <sara2010> any one help me
[10:43] <sara2010> i m going to install hp scanjet 200
[10:43] <sara2010> but its not working
[10:43] <sara2010> using ubuntu 12.04
[10:43] <TurBoss> Hi
[10:44] <sara2010> any one help mre
[10:44] <TurBoss> I have a strange problem in gnome terminal, it types comas instead of dots
[10:44] <gustav1234x> TurBoss: When you’re doing what?
[10:44] <TurBoss> when  I tipe a dot
[10:45] <TurBoss> in the numerical keyboard it places a coma
[10:45] <gustav1234x> TurBoss: Is your keyboard setup correctly?
[10:45] <TurBoss> hmmm... checking
[10:46] <sara2010> gustav1234x:   help me ?
[10:46] <gustav1234x> sara2010: I didn’t see your problem.
[10:46] <sara2010> gustav1234x:  i m trying to install  hp scanjet 200
[10:47] <sara2010> gustav1234x:  but its not working !
[10:47] <gustav1234x> sara2010: What version of Ubuntu?
[10:48] <sara2010> 12.04
[10:48] <sara2010> ubuntu 12.04
[10:48] <gustav1234x> sara2010: Seems like it can’t be used in Ubuntu.
[10:48] <sara2010> :(
[10:48] <sara2010> which version should be work
[10:48] <gustav1234x> sara2010: Other than maybe via virtualization.
[10:49] <gustav1234x> sara2010: Not sure what that means.
[10:49] <hateball> sara2010: It's not supported by hplip at all, that is the drivers from HP for their things
[10:50] <TurBoss> sara2010 check http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[10:50] <TurBoss> gustav1234x my keyboard layout is ok
[10:50] <sara2010> TurBoss:  i need to install scanner !
[10:50] <TurBoss> I can print  ññ
[10:51] <TurBoss> I mean i can type ñ
[10:51] <gustav1234x> TurBoss: Do you have the same problem in say LibreOffice?
[10:51] <TurBoss> no
[10:51] <TurBoss> only on gnome-terminal
[10:52] <lucas2> What are the benefits, if any, of booting ubuntu on EFI rather than Legacy mode (BIOS style)?
[10:52] <gustav1234x> TurBoss: Have you tried a different shell?
[10:52] <gustav1234x> Sorry. Lunch.
[10:52] <TurBoss> gustav1234x xtrem works fine
[10:53] <TurBoss> ok
[10:53] <fr0st> hi
[11:01] <sara2010> gustav1234x:   its possible installed with wine ?
[11:01] <sara2010> hateball:   its possible installed with wine ?
[11:01] <Tk-421> Hello
[11:04] <Yehai> hello
[11:05] <Yehai> ?
[11:05] <ikonia> hi there
[11:05] <lucas2> Hello, what are the benefits, if any, of booting ubuntu on EFI rather than Legacy mode (BIOS style)?
[11:05] <Yehai> ubuntu work with 1g mem?
[11:06] <sara2010> its possible to install hp scanjet 200 with wine ?
[11:07] <ikonia> Yehai: yes
[11:07] <EriC^^> lucas2: more modern and faster booting ( just a little )
[11:07] <ikonia> sara2010: not somethine I'd recommend
[11:07] <ikonia> sara2010: the native linux cups drivers should work with almost every HP priner without wine
[11:07] <EriC^^> lucas2: also if you install a new os it doesn't replace the bootloader of the first os, it just adds its efi file
[11:07] <Yehai> sara2010: a printer?
[11:09] <Tk-421> In the terminal I'm getting something that says Invalid entry length (0). DMI table is broken! Stop.
[11:09] <Tk-421> Is this a bad thing?
[11:09] <YamakasY> can I start a script after a cronjob, backup , has finished ?
[11:10] <ikonia> YamakasY: just put the script in the end of the script that launches the backup
[11:10] <ikonia> so it executes when the backup is completed
[11:11] <YamakasY> ikonia: yeah, but it's a xtrabackup so I need to script that in script, not nice
[11:11] <sara2010> ikonia:  its hp scnajet  usb scanner
[11:11] <ikonia> YamakasY: a script being called from a script is fine, so it putting the commands in the initial script
[11:11] <ikonia> sara2010: should still work, %99.9 do
[11:11] <sara2010> ikonia:  its not working . with ubuntu 12.04
[11:12] <ikonia> you'll have to explain a bit better than "not working"
[11:13] <sara2010> ikonia:  i have installed hplip  and xsane , its says no scanner
[11:14] <YamakasY> ikonia: yeah but not for my puppet way
[11:14] <ikonia> YamakasY: it works fine with puppet
[11:14] <hateball> ikonia, sara2010 the scanjet 200 is not supported by hplip, not any other flatbed scanners either
[11:14] <ikonia> hateball: thank you for doing the leg work
[11:14] <hateball> most HP MFP printers are however supported
[11:15] <hateball> sara2010: I doubt you could get it working using wine either
[11:15] <YamakasY> ikonia: nah I need to write extra manifests instead of puppeting both crons in simply
[11:15] <ikonia> YamakasY: do it however you feel best then
[11:15] <hateball> sara2010: The Sane project supports lots of HP flatbed scanners, however the 200 seems to be one that it does not
[11:16] <sara2010> hateball:  so how it will work ?
[11:16] <YamakasY> ikonia: sure I will
[11:16] <hateball> sara2010: It wont.
[11:17] <ikonia> hateball: appreciate the leg work
[11:17] <hateball> ikonia: I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not
[11:18] <ikonia> hateball: far from it, saved a lot of time researching
[11:18] <hateball> :)
[11:18] <hateball> sara2010: If your funds allow for it, I would look up a new MFP that is supported according to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
[11:20] <hateball> I can't find any good resource for what Sane supports, if you want a pure flatbed scanner
[11:23] <MrElendig> get a epson v600 or similar
[11:24] <MrElendig> also http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
[11:24] <MrElendig> the official list of supported devices
[11:33] <nurve> Panko are u here
[11:33] <pmaxk> edw
[11:33] <nurve> Wraios
[11:34] <alumno_> holaaaaaaa
[11:34] <alumno_> hollalalalallalalalalalaalllalallalalalalallalalalalalalalal
[11:34] <alumno_> d
[11:34] <alumno_> d
[11:34] <alumno_> d
[11:34] <alumno_> d
[11:34] <alumno_> d
[11:36] <pmaxk> nurve: anoixa kanali...
[11:37] <cfhowlett> alumno_, play somewhere else
[11:37] <carrera> Can anyone tell me why I get "Failed to start session" on a fresh install of 15.10?
[11:37] <alumno_> d
[11:37] <alumno_> d
[11:38] <alumno_> d
[11:38] <alumno_> d
[11:38] <cfhowlett> carrera, Ms. Cleo could, but she's retired.  for the rest of use, you have to actually provide DETAILS
[11:38] <alumno_> d
[11:38] <cfhowlett> alumno_, don't be  a jerk
[11:38] <carrera> cfhowlett, Hi  :)
[11:38] <cfhowlett> carrera, greetings.    > details >>> answers
[11:39] <GladiaTeur> hi how to prevent this ssh login attempt's a part of log "auth.log" https://dpaste.de/0etg/raw
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !details | carrera
[11:39] <carrera> I used the NetInstall, picked the MATE desktop and SSH server in the options and configured my 2 SSDs in RAID 0
[11:39] <carrera> I can log in from tty1 and I can also ssh in
[11:40] <carrera> but I can't login from LightDM on tty7
[11:40] <cfhowlett> GladiaTeur, you could block the IP in ufw
[11:40] <carrera> I reinstalled every package in the ubuntu-mate-desktop to no avail
[11:40] <GladiaTeur> cfhowlett all the ip's and what is ufw ? and how to do that in which file
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !ufw | GladiaTeur
[11:41] <carrera> hardware is a new Asus G751 gaming laptop with a GeForce 860m video card
[11:41] <carrera> I have installed the nvidia-351-updates package from the ubuntu repositories
[11:41] <carrera> *nvidia-352-updates
[11:42] <GladiaTeur> cfhowlett ok let me check tnx
[11:42] <carrera> nvidia-352 is the latest long-term branch of the drivers
[11:44] <carrera> cfhowlett, was that enough details
[11:45] <cfhowlett> carrera, yes.  patience.  ask again in 15 minutes.  this one is over my head.
[11:46] <ikonia> carrera: do you get a light dm login window presented to you ?
[11:46] <carrera> yes, I do
[11:47] <ikonia> and you fail to auth when you try to login
[11:47] <carrera> as usual I didn't with the nouveau drivers
[11:47] <carrera> but when I installed the nvidia drivers it boots nicely to the LightDM login page
[11:47] <ikonia> and you fail to auth when you try to login
[11:47] <carrera> just like my older laptop, also running Ubuntu MATE 15.10
[11:47] <ikonia> ok - I'm bored now
[11:48] <ikonia> good luck
[11:48] <carrera> ikonia, yes I fail with "Failed to start session" message
[11:52] <hateball> carrera: make sure ~/..Xauthority is owned by your user:user
[11:52] <carrera> hateball, thanks, I'll check
[11:52] <hateball> carrera: and read ~/.xsession-errors after a failed login, if it has more detailed info
[11:53] <carrera> hateball, .Xauthority is owned by user:user with permission 600
[11:53] <hateball> carrera: as it should
[11:53] <carrera> good!
[11:54] <carrera> hateball, no errors there
[11:54] <ikonia> it will be all the pam modules and stuff like that has he's done a minimal install, but I can't be bothered working it through as it's too much hard working getting a simple answer to a question
[11:56] <carrera> hateball, Xsession: X session started for carrera at Mon.... localuser: carrera being added to access control list
[11:57] <ralpheeee> hi guys o/....installed ubuntu core with i3wm...can some one poinnt be in the direction for rendering issues with chrome and fn keys not working...
[11:57] <carrera> I installed Ubuntu MATE 15.04 on my older laptop with exactly the same way with no problems
[11:57] <carrera> then I upgraded to 15.10 with no problems
[11:58] <carrera> ikonia, are you referring to me?
[12:00] <hateball> carrera: are you able to start any other DE session?
[12:00] <hateball> if you have Unity or KDE Plasma or some such available
[12:01] <carrera> hateball, I did not install any other DEs
[12:01] <carrera> hateball, but I reinstalled all the dependencies of ubuntu-mate-desktop, to no avail
[12:01] <Reventlov> Yosh.
[12:02] <Reventlov> Trying to install ubuntu 15.10 on an acer E15 with a gtx 920m. The liveusb is fine, I can boot to grub (UEFI computer), still, when I try to boot to the install menu, I get a black screen (nothing, not even a blinking cursor).
[12:03] <Reventlov> I tried a various combination of options on the linux line: nomodeset, nolapic, acpi=off, it doesn't change anything.
[12:03] <Reventlov> Any idea ?
[12:06] <carrera> ikonia, weren't you the guy who told me I can't boot the mini.iso?
[12:07] <Reventlov> Same problem with 14.04
[12:07] <carrera> ikonia, all I had to do was turn on BIOS Compatibility Module
[12:07] <carrera> ikonia, who can't be bothered to work through a problem man???
[12:07] <carrera> ikonia, you don't know what you're talking about
[12:08] <ikonia> I couldn't be bothered, as I said
[12:08] <carrera> then shut up
[12:08] <GladiaTeur> cfhowlett sudo ufw deny from "ip" like this right?
[12:08] <ikonia> drop the attitude carrera
[12:08] <pmaxk> Reventlov: graphic card?
[12:08] <Reventlov> pmaxk: 920m, nvidia geforce
[12:09] <GladiaTeur> if i want to deny ssh connections to port 22 using ufw, sudo ufw deny from "ip" or not ?
[12:11] <Reventlov> pmaxk: it seems it boot, btw, just i can't see anything
[12:12] <hateball> Reventlov: Do you not get any display on tty1 either? With nomodeset you should be able to get a console and install the 355 driver from ppa
[12:13] <Reventlov> hateball: no tty1 display
[12:14] <Reventlov> the same black screen
[12:15] <pmaxk> Reventlov: how did you install ubuntu?
[12:15] <Reventlov> i didn't install ubuntu.
[12:15] <Reventlov> 2015-12-14-13:02:34 < Reventlov> Trying to install ubuntu 15.10
[12:16] <pmaxk> Reventlov: from live usb ?
[12:16] <Reventlov> yes.
[12:17] <Reventlov> as i said, i can boot to grub, but nothing after.
[12:17] <Reventlov> tried with 15.10, 14.04, and the live works on another machine, so i do not think it's the live which is the issue
[12:19] <pmaxk> Reventlov: so you see the initial menu for options not grub..
[12:19] <Reventlov> pmaxk: the inital menu for booting is a grub
[12:20] <Reventlov> >GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.3
[12:20] <Reventlov> for example.
[12:20] <Reventlov> As i said, it's an uefi system.
[12:20] <pmaxk> Reventlov: with what app you make the live usb?
[12:20] <Reventlov> with dd.
[12:21] <pmaxk> Reventlov: i think you have to try another
[12:22] <pmaxk> Reventlov: like unetbooting or rufus in win
[12:24] <Reventlov> pmaxk: i think i don't have to.
[12:24] <Reventlov> If someone
[12:25] <pmaxk> Reventlov: may i ask the dd command you use?
[12:25] <Reventlov> dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdX
[12:29] <loren> I'm probably in a wrong channel, but I'll ask anyway. How do I change my Apache web server root directory?
[12:30] <Mathisen> loren, You need to change the DocumentRoot setting in your httpd.conf .. most likley >> /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf
[12:31] <loren> there's no conf directory in /etc/apache2
[12:31] <Mathisen> loren, 1. sudo updatedb 2. locate httpd.conf
[12:31] <loren> thanks, Mathisen
[12:33] <daftykins> loren: nah it's not called httpd.conf in apache2 on ubuntu... you're more likely after editing /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-000.conf
[12:33] <loren> $ locate conf.d | grep "apache"   gives me /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d   is that the right config file?
[12:34] <daftykins> oops 000-default.conf
[12:34] <loren> oh..
[12:35] <loren> locate httpd.conf only gives me ~/.rbenv/versions/2.2.3/lib/ruby/gems/2.2.0/gems/rack-1.6.4/test/cgi/lighttpd.conf
[12:35] <loren> this isn't related to apache
[12:35] <daftykins> "how do i change my apache web server root" isn't related to apache? how do you figure?
[12:36] <loren> no, the file that locate gave me
[12:36] <loren> lol
[12:36] <daftykins> no it's not :)
[12:36] <daftykins> since it's in php's path
[12:36] <loren> yeah, that's weird
[12:36] <daftykins> as i say you want to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[12:37] <daftykins> but it makes more sense to keep /var/www/html/ the default, chown it as www-data:www-data and then add your user to the www-data group; if you're after direct control of the files in the root.
[12:37] <loren> yeah, I'll do that, thanks
[12:44] <loren> seems like my user was already in www-data
[12:45] <somsip> loren: if you're taking this approach, worth doing chmod -R g+s /var/www too, so all log files, cache files, etc can be created okay by www-data
[12:46] <daftykins> but the logs are in /var/log/apache2...
[12:46] <somsip> daftykins: project logs, eg: /var/www/myproject/logs
[12:46] <loren> yeah, I only got html/ in /var/www/
[12:47] <somsip> loren: just a thought. If this is a local dev server anyway. You should be more picky if it's production
[12:47] <daftykins> picky? o0
[12:47] <loren> somsip, it's just a local dev server so no big deal
[12:48] <andreas_> test
[12:48] <somsip> daftykins: more specfic with permissions - not *everything* needs to be +w for www-data, but folders like logs and cache probably need to be
[12:48] <daftykins> oh ok
[12:54] <albratos007> halo
[13:05] <albratos007> halo
[13:06] <daftykins> albratos007: yes hello, if you have a question ask it... otherwise don't greet us in this channel :P
[13:08] <Reventlov> Any idea for this installation problem ?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:09] <loren> hi
[13:09] <daftykins> Reventlov: if nomodeset didn't work, what kind of system is this?
[13:10] <Reventlov> daftykins: well, as I said
[13:10] <Reventlov> it's an aspire e15.
[13:10] <Reventlov> E5-573G-379T. If you have any question on the hardware, I can answer.
[13:10] <daftykins> right but that was before i came in, you have to understand it's your responsibility to provide the details, i'm the volunteer, we don't work to find out the info
[13:10] <Reventlov> daftykins: I provided all the details.
[13:11] <daftykins> before i came in like i just said.
[13:11] <Reventlov> Oh, sorry. I'll prepare a pastebin.
[13:11] <daftykins> is this the white one?
[13:12] <Reventlov> yes.
[13:12] <Reventlov> http://sprunge.us/ENeI
[13:13] <renka> hello... is there a good package to create an exchange server on ubuntu?
[13:13] <ikonia> renka: there is no such thing as an exchange server
[13:13] <renka> hmm?
[13:13] <daftykins> Reventlov: i would install from mini.iso and then get the nvidia driver on prior to installing X and the desktop
[13:14] <ikonia> renka: there is no such thing as an exchange server on linux
[13:14] <renka> how to host an exchange server else?
[13:14] <ikonia> renka: you host it on windows
[13:14] <daftykins> renka: do you mean just a normal mail server?
[13:15] <renka> i want to start an server where all mails, contacts, terms etc. goes and have access from any outlook
[13:16] <renka> for like 10 mail adresses
[13:16] <Reventlov> renka: use windows for that.
[13:16] <ikonia> renka: you need an excahnge server on windows to run an exchange solution
[13:16] <renka> damn
[13:16] <daftykins> renka: better yet, pay for office 365 or google apps, don't run it yourself.
[13:16] <daftykins> but that is off topic here :)
[13:17] <ikonia> an even better idea for 10 users
[13:17] <renka> i have google apps, but google apps does not support exchange
[13:17] <daftykins> renka: i don't think you know what exchange is since you're throwing the term around in inappropriate places.
[13:17] <AtuM> renka, perhaps Zarafa might be something worth looking into
[13:17] <ikonia> renka: office365 as daftykins said, ask the guys in ##windows
[13:20] <renka> thanks
[13:36] <Borisz> Hello everyone! I have WinXP/Xubuntu 15.10 64bit dualboot. If i used ubuntu, then the next time i boot into XP, the USB mouse (back panel) and my wifi stick (front usb panel) does not work. A reboot from xp or the reset button solves the problem. Tried to google the problem, i failed to find anything related. No clue what to do. (I tried to boot live xubuntu 14.04.3 32bit from usb, happens the same as i start win). Thanks
[13:37] <k1l> Borisz: do you reboot or power down and then boot again?
[13:38] <k1l> Borisz: could be that a total powerloss is needed to change the state the linux driver keeps the devices in.
[13:38] <ikonia> wasn't this a bug in some usb chipset ?
[13:38] <ikonia> quite an old one
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Borisz: and do you have usb/bios enabled or usb/Os
[13:39] <k1l> ikonia: well, winxp refers to "quite old" :)
[13:40] <ikonia> I guess so
[13:40] <daftykins> shouldn't even be using XP
[13:41] <gleeb> daftykins, I've kept trying various things but I still can't get Ubuntu to install even after all that time.
[13:41] <Borisz> k1l, i reboot from win, or press reset button when its booting, i dont power down. i dont understand your second question :)) is that some setting in bios? and yes, xp (work machine, i cannot do anything about it)
[13:41] <daftykins> gleeb: i can't remember your issue
[13:42] <gleeb> daftykins, Couldn't boot or install Ubuntu 14.04 no matter what I tried, it would always hang
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> Borisz: yes bios has an option for usb mouse/keyboard support it can be set to Os or Bios
[13:42] <gleeb> With the same two issues
[13:42] <Borisz> kl1 motherboard asrock h81m-vg4 if that matters
[13:42] <daftykins> gleeb: ah, tried a DVD or other flash drive?
[13:42] <k1l> Borisz: try to power down and then boot to win. maybe the device keeps a state while still having power that the windows driver cant handle. so a power down is needed to make the device forget it
[13:42] <gleeb> daftykins, I just sourced a new flash drive
[13:43] <gleeb> Going to try again
[13:43] <gleeb> Cannot use a DVD to due the lack of a drive to read one
[13:43] <Borisz> kl1 Okay, I will try that, thanks. Not a big problem, it just bugs me :)
[13:44] <Reventlov> daftykins: I'm failing to boot to the minimal iso
[13:44] <gleeb> daftykins, Does the lack of "UMS support" in the Radeon module actually mean it won't work. It's a sporadic error that can pop up sometimes but it's not the main cause of the problem, as nomodeset failed to help either.
[13:46] <daftykins> gleeb: i answered that last time, said it likely wasn't the crux of the matter
[13:46] <gleeb> Yeah, I remember you did. I'm trying another pendrive today
[13:47] <daftykins> gleeb: what OS are you preparing it from - and with which program?
[13:47] <gleeb> From Windows 10, tried both Unetbootin to prepare and Rufus
[13:47] <gleeb> Both of which failed, although with different messages
[13:48] <student> muskan
[13:49] <gleeb> daftykins, I'll attempt to do it again on the other drive, in case it fails, I'll be back.
[14:00] <Reventlov> daftykins: ok, so it's not an option (the mini.iso)
[14:00] <Reventlov> >Note: While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode.
[14:01] <daftykins> Reventlov: are you wanting ubuntu as the only OS, or dual boot with win10?
[14:05] <Reventlov> daftykins: well, dual booting with windows.
[14:05] <Reventlov> but using bios/legacy is not an option.
[14:06] <daftykins> Reventlov: yes, i know how it works... server would be ok to achieve the same
[14:09] <robairt_> exit
[14:16] <loodoons> Hello :)
[14:17] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:29] <Reventlov> daftykins: same problem with the server iso.
[14:30] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: wich graphics card chipset and ubuntu version please?
[14:30] <daftykins> what same problem?
[14:30] <daftykins> details...
[14:31] <Reventlov> daftykins: details: the same than the previous time.
[14:31] <daftykins> ok, if you're not willing to type out a complete sentence then i'm not willing to help.
[14:31] <Reventlov> I can access to the grub on the server livecd. Then I try to go to the install software, black screen.
[14:31] <daftykins> enjoy.
[14:31] <Reventlov> bye :)
[14:32] <Reventlov> So, for thoses willing (and able) to help: http://sprunge.us/ENeI
[14:32] <Reventlov> The minimal iso is not an option (doesn't work on uefi systems), and I tried the server livecd, I have the same problem than the one described.
[14:33] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: gtx 920m is an optimus and needs nvidia-prime
[14:33] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: wich driver do you have in use?
[14:34] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: i'm trying to install ubuntu (as described on the paste)
[14:34] <Reventlov> so, nothing, right now.
[14:34] <Reventlov> since I cannot even get to the installation screen.
[14:35] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: you dont have ubuntu installed yet?
[14:35] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: indeed, as described on http://sprunge.us/ENeI
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Reventlov  what's on the pc right now? windows? ubuntu? something else?
[14:36] <Reventlov> MonkeyDust: Windows 8.
[14:36] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: do you want singleboot or dualboot?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> Reventlov  ok, go in windows 8 and provide the requested details
[14:36] <Reventlov> MonkeyDust: which details ?
[14:37] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: dualboot. Otherwise I would've gone with the minimal iso
[14:37] <lotus|xenial> !uefi | Reventlov
[14:37] <tomer> Hello, is anyone familiar with the `amixer` utility? I'm trying to understand what the difference between `set` and `sset` is, if any.
[14:37] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: I know.
[14:37] <Reventlov> Why do you give me that ?
[14:38] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: you need to do steps before dualboot with uefi
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> !info amixer
[14:38] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: dual booting with uefi is not the problem.
[14:38] <Reventlov> As i said: i can boot to grub
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> !info amixer trusty
[14:38] <Reventlov> just read http://sprunge.us/ENeI
[14:38] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: go into live and install nvidia-prime
[14:38] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: did you read my paste ? I don't think so.
[14:39] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: your card is optimus and needs the right combo with the driver
[14:39] <Reventlov> >The liveusb is fine, I can boot to grub (UEFI computer), still, when I try to boot to the install menu, I get a black screen (nothing, not even a blinking cursor).
[14:39] <Reventlov> I cannot do anything if the screen is black.
[14:39] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: i didnt say 'install'
[14:39] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: i said try live
[14:39] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: And I tried.
[14:39] <Reventlov> Same issue.
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Reventlov  try with a live usb, instead of cd/dvd
[14:40] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: do you have bios options to set nvidia or intel?
[14:40] <Reventlov> MonkeyDust: I already use a live usb.
[14:40] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: let me check, i don't think so.
[14:40] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: if you have try the boot into intel only
[14:42] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: amixer is in the alsa-utils package
[14:43] <tomer> zykotick9: Indeed. I think `set` and `sset` might just be synonymous, but I wonder why the latter exists in the first place.
[14:44] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: no, nothing.
[14:45] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: you have no weird bios setting mentioning 'intel something' that could block installing other Os right?
[14:45] <Reventlov> no.
[14:45] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: iv seen boxes before blocking that by default
[14:45] <Reventlov> btw it's an uefi.
[14:45] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: i know you said that already
[14:46] <Reventlov> well then stop talking of a bios.
[14:47] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: try a lubuntu liveusb
[14:49] <faltu> hello there
[14:50] <faltu> how can i transfer file to another drive
[14:50] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: ok.
[14:50] <faltu> hello
[14:52] <faltu> is any buddy  is here
[14:52] <ikonia> yes
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> faltu  you mean cp a file to another device?
[14:52] <faltu> please help me
[14:52] <faltu> yes
[14:52] <ikonia> help you what ?
[14:52] <faltu> what is cp
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> faltu  mount the device, then copy the file to it
[14:53] <ikonia> faltu: open the file manager and drag and drop
[14:53] <ikonia> the same as windows or mac (if you're used to wither of those)
[14:53] <faltu> how to trensfer file by terminl
[14:53] <ikonia> (either)
[14:53] <ikonia> faltu: cp
[14:53] <ikonia> thats the command
[14:53] <faltu> yes
[14:54] <ikonia> great, so now you know
[14:54] <faltu> full
[14:54] <ikonia> faltu: man cp
[14:54] <ikonia> that will show you the syntax of copy (cp)
[14:55] <faltu> how to  install software offline
[14:55] <ikonia> faltu: you have to download the packages and dependencies, it's not really how the ubuntu package manager was designed to work
[14:55] <ikonia> it's not something I'd suggest you look at
[14:56] <faltu> what command is offline installer
[14:56] <ikonia> it's not a command
[14:56] <ikonia> as I've just said
[14:56] <ikonia> you have to manually download the packages and dependencies (there are tools) then use the online installer pointed at those packages
[14:56] <faltu> what command
[14:56] <ikonia> it's not something I sugest you look at, it's easier to just do on line
[14:56] <ikonia> faltu: it's NOT a command
[14:57] <faltu> how to install software
[14:57] <faltu> >
[14:57] <faltu> ?
[14:57] <ikonia> faltu: I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:58] <ikonia> that will give you an overview of how to use ubuntu at a basic level
[14:58] <bazhang> !offline | faltu
[14:58] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: try to disable fastboot and secureboot to make sure its not uefi messing things up, preventing you to install ubuntu
[14:58] <faltu> tnx bro
[14:58] <faltu> ikonia
[15:02] <herrkin> hello community I always bring funny problems here.
[15:02] <herrkin> I cant get a serial pci card to work
[15:02] <herrkin> its not detected by lspci
[15:03] <herrkin> no serial card shown
[15:03] <ikonia> then it's got a hardware problem
[15:03] <lotus|xenial> herrkin: what kind of device are we talking about?
[15:03] <herrkin> thats the problem I dont have the exact model, I am working on it remotely
[15:03] <herrkin> it had windows last week, and it was working perfectly
[15:03] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: fastboot already disabled. Secure boot too.
[15:03] <ikonia> it has a hardware problem, if you put a card in and you can't even probe it on the bus - it's not working
[15:04] <herrkin> they installed ubuntu, this card doesnt show so I cant install software that comunicate via serial ports
[15:04] <herrkin> yes well I am not an expert on linux either
[15:04] <herrkin> it just doesnt say serial
[15:04] <herrkin> maybe it is in lspci but not as a serial card
[15:04] <ikonia> herrkin: it would appear to be a hardware problem
[15:05] <ikonia> herrkin: then look for it as something else
[15:05] <Reventlov> herrkin: did you try to compare the output of lspci when the card is plugged // unplugged ?
[15:06] <mrzhang> hi
[15:07] <herrkin> Reventlov, hold on a sec, I will save an lspci output
[15:08] <herrkin> I can't physically access the computer, its in a different city.
[15:08] <herrkin> but I could ask them to unplug it and see what happens
[15:08] <mrsam96> hi all
[15:09] <herrkin> look http://termbin.com/qdh4
[15:09] <ikonia> herrkin: why are you showing us this ?
[15:09] <herrkin> thats my lspci -vv output
[15:09] <ikonia> herrkin: you've not taken the card out
[15:09] <herrkin> yes but its good to see what it shows
[15:09] <herrkin> maybe you can identify something I cant
[15:10] <ikonia> how can we know what your card is and what it's being presented as
[15:10] <ikonia> you don't even know the model
[15:10] <ikonia> what's this device for example
[15:10] <ikonia> Integrated Technology Express
[15:10] <mrsam96> waht can i see that my graphic card is install or not?
[15:11] <ikonia> mrsam96: pardon ?
[15:11] <fep> hehe
[15:11] <Reventlov> ikonia: it's a pcie to pci bridge.
[15:11] <ikonia> Reventlov: but what is it ?
[15:11] <herrkin> ok I am going to ask them to remove it and try figuring out the model so we can work better on this
[15:12] <Guest58511> http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php
i wanna finout that my graphice driver is install or noT
[15:12] <Reventlov> ikonia: something to bridge pci ports to pcie ones
[15:12] <ikonia> mrsam96: what video card do you have ?
[15:12] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: can you try booting with quiet splash off "" so we can see errors whats going on?
[15:13] <ikonia> Reventlov: I know what it does  I'm using it to show that we cannot identify brand/make/model form a blind lspci output, any more than he can
[15:13] <mrsam96> ikonia : AMD..Radeon
[15:13] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: let's try. Which iso do you prefer ? The server one, the lubuntu one, the desktop one ?
[15:13] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: lets try desktop with quirt splash of
[15:13] <ikonia> mrsam96: so you need to look at what version of the ati drivers support that card, and then look at the xorg log to see if it's using them (or know if you've manually installed them)
im freshs user here...i installing ubuntu now...so what can i do for understand it...plz say simply tnx
[15:15] <ikonia> mrsam96: is your video display working ?
how can i understand? :|
[15:15] <tomer> mrsam96: Do you have an image on your screen, can you see Ubuntu?
[15:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: is your gui working - do you have a gui
[15:16] <mrsam96> yeah
[15:16] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: replacing quiet splash with nosplash ?
yeah
[15:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: ok - so I suggest if you are new radig https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:16] <dcope> is there a way to VNC to a ubuntu 12.04 machine with no display plugged in *without* buying a fake dongle?
[15:16] <Reventlov> or just deleting it ?
[15:16] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: no just wipe quiet splash to empty yes
[15:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: that is a good introduction to ubuntu for a new user and includes things like setting up your desktop and graphics
so how can i install kDE without any buG?
tnx :)
[15:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: are you using kubuntu ?
[15:17] <Reventlov> done. And nothing shows.
no use ubuntu 15.10
[15:17] <ikonia> mrsam96: use kubuntu if you want to use kde
[15:17] <ikonia> mrsam96: it is the best approach
[15:17] <Reventlov> let's try lubuntu, I finished downloading it.
[15:17] <mrsam96> so if wanna use kdE her what can i do?
[15:17] <ikonia> install kubuntu
[15:18] <ikonia> that is the best choice
[15:18] <mrsam96> i dont like download it again D:
[15:18] <ikonia> you'll have to download KDE anyway
[15:18] <ikonia> so just download kubuntu
[15:18] <ikonia> kubuntu
[15:18] <mrsam96> :\
[15:18] <mrsam96> kubuntu looklike ubuntu?
[15:18] <ikonia> no
[15:18] <ikonia> it looks like a kde desktop
[15:18] <Reventlov> but under the hood, it's the same.
[15:18] <mrsam96> do u have link from the lastet kubuntu?
[15:18] <tomer> mrsam96: It's the best choice in the long term. Just try a live-CD to figure out if you like KDE.
[15:18] <ikonia> kubuntu.com
 huum tnx .. can i use whit it look like ubuntu?
tnx :)
[15:19] <ikonia> mrsam96: no
[15:19] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: same problem with lubuntu.
[15:20] <ikonia> mrsam96: unity looks different
[15:20] <mrsam96> <ikonia my mean is that ubuntu is base of debian...is kubunto too?
[15:20] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: must be something uefi mate, makes no sense so many Os refuse to boot
[15:20] <tomer> mrsam96: Yes, same base.
[15:21] <ikonia> mrsam96: kubuntu/ubuntu exactly the same distribution, different desktops
[15:21] <mrsam96> tnx :)
[15:22] <tomer> mrsam96: Try a Live-CD, then you don't need to decide right away if you want to keep your current Ubuntu installation. You may not prefer KDE in the end :)
[15:22] <tomer> ah n/m he left
[15:22] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: wich laptop brand please?
[15:22] <Reventlov> acer, model: aspire E15
[15:23] <faltu> how t
[15:23] <illpass> Does anyone know why the ubuntu installer messed up the windows bootloader?
[15:23] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: ok leme look things up
[15:23] <faltu> how to run android game
[15:24] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: maybe i have to enable the secureboot and manually whitelist the ubuntu efi file.
[15:24] <nicomachus> faltu: you'll have to use an android emulator
[15:24] <Reventlov> Maybe the « disabled secureboot » is a lie.
[15:25] <lotus|xenial> Reventlov: ok can you please try with secureboot and fastboot off
[15:25] <faltu> please tell how to setup android emulator
[15:25] <illpass> I installed ubuntu onto a USB HDD, and I told the installer to put the boot load there, but now I cant boot windows normally
[15:26] <Reventlov> lotus|xenial: it's what I tried from the beginning. I'll try doing that with secureboot enabled and ubuntu whitelisted
[15:27] <faltu> nicomachus:please tell me how to add android emuletor
[15:27] <tomer> illpass: That shouldn't have happened. Can you maybe repair the Windows boot loader via Windows boot media?
[15:27] <schnartz> exit
[15:29] <illpass> tomer: I'll try that thanks. Can I report this bug somewhere?
[15:30] <illpass> I can remember ubuntu installer breaking my windows boot loader when I tell it not to when I used ubuntu before
[15:30] <tomer> illpass: No idea about bug reports, I'm sure someone else does. I have W10 and Xubuntu in the same system, both UEFI and they didn't have any conflicts.
[15:30] <L41N> sup
[15:30] <L41N> whos in the party?
[15:32] <napoleon1234> hello, I have installed postfix on my ubuntu 14.04 and I was testing if the server sends emails but it didn't I get always "recipient rejected" but I didn't reject anything
[15:32] <napoleon1234> someone an Idea how I can fix this?
[15:32] <nicomachus> faltu: this should tell you everything you need: http://sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-genymotion-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> napoleon1234  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:33] <napoleon1234> ah thx MonkeyDust
[15:39] <researcher123> is there a good open source programming language in Ubuntu?
[15:39] <Dusan_Mitrovic> there's fpc
[15:39] <Dusan_Mitrovic> lol
[15:40] <Dusan_Mitrovic> sudo apt-get install fpc
[15:41] <researcher123> can someone suggest an object oriented open source programming language for Ubuntu?
[15:41] <Dusan_Mitrovic> Lazarus
[15:41] <auronandace> researcher123: python
[15:42] <Pici> researcher123: any of the big ones would be fine. python, java, perl, c++.
[15:42] <tomer> Excuse my ignorance, but what defines an "open source" programming language? One that isn't designed by commitee?
[15:42] <Pici> researcher123: ruby, JS, etc, etc.
[15:42] <Dusan_Mitrovic> Why not use Microsoft Studio Code? It has Linux support
[15:43] <CryptoSiD> W: Failed to fetch http://swupdate.openvpn.net/apt/dists/trusty/Release Invalid 'Date' entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/swupdate.openvpn.net_apt_dists_trusty_Release
[15:43] <CryptoSiD> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:43] <CryptoSiD> how can i fix this?
[15:43] <help0i> hey guys
[15:43] <CryptoSiD> i mailed openvpn repo manager he say he cant reproduce the problem
[15:43] <help0i> so i got  a win7 host, ubuntu vm
[15:44] <nicomachus> CryptoSiD: can you paste the full output of apt-get update into a pastebin and link that here?
[15:44] <help0i> i would like to route win7 traffic thru ubuntu vm
[15:44] <help0i> and onto internet
[15:44] <daftykins> CryptoSiD: delete those package lists then update
[15:44] <daftykins> help0i: VM on top of the win7 PC? no you can't do that
[15:44] <CryptoSiD> i already tryed daftykins, nicomachus sure gimme a sec
[15:46] <CryptoSiD> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14006450/
[15:47] <CryptoSiD> it was working fine on 16.04 for a while, but it started doing this last week
[15:48] <stangeland> Hi. how do i clear the disk caches?
[15:48] <daftykins> ugh you're mixing versions, that's never wise
[15:48] <CryptoSiD> there is no xenial on the apt repo of openvpn
[15:48] <CryptoSiD> last one is trusty
[15:48] <daftykins> well yeah, 'cause it's not out yet
[15:48] <sruli> hi, ubuntu 14.04 I want to run script to run at shutdown but before logoff where do i add this script? it has to be before logoff as the script syncs some files inside ecryptFS
[15:49] <CryptoSiD> is there any way to fix this?
[15:49] <zrneely> I'm having some trouble with gsettings. I'm using gnome-shell, and for some reason I can't set any of the gsettings properties from within tmux. I can read them just fine, and setting returns 0 for success, but has no effect. The commands work perfectly outside of tmux as well.
[15:49] <nicomachus> CryptoSiD: yea, because 16.04 isn't out yet. A lot of repos/ppas aren't caught up yet. you can either use a stable version of ubuntu or wait until the dev has released xenial versions of the package. this is a risk you take when using experimental builds.
[15:50] <ekman> hello
[15:50] <CryptoSiD> ok well i'll wait, no worries im already on last openvpn version anyway, thanks guys
[15:50] <ekman> i wat learn linux OS where should i start
[15:50] <ekman> i want...
[15:50] <zrneely> Does anyone know what could be causing that? My bashrc executes export $(dbus-launch) when tmux starts already.
[15:51] <daftykins> ekman: edx.org has a good LFS101x intro course
[15:51] <ekman> are there any people can help to me ?
[15:51] <daftykins> (free)
[15:51] <nicomachus> and codecademy has a pretty decent command-line intro, also free.
[15:52] <tomer> ekman: One of the best ways is to install a user friendly distribution like Ubuntu and start playing around with it. Other than that there are book and free online courses like e.g Linux Fundamentals at EDX.
[15:53] <ekman> thanks guys
[15:53] <ekman> see you late
[15:55] <akik> zrneely: do any of your x11 apps work from tmux?
[15:57] <lcbeta> i need help to ubuntu
[15:58] <JeDa> on what
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> lcbeta  let's hear it, in onre line
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> one*
[15:58] <lcbeta> on typewriting
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> lcbeta  this is the ubuntu support channel, sure you want to be here?
[15:58] <lcbeta> and i cant found the software center
[15:59] <zrneely> akik: yes, I can start x apps (nautilus, gnome-terminal, google-chrome, etc) from within tmux.
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> lcbeta  in the dash, top left, type 'software', then click software center
[15:59] <lcbeta> yes  i m in
[15:59] <k1l> lcbeta: what ubuntu is it exactly? and what is the exact issue?
[15:59] <lcbeta> but i cant download this
[16:00]  * k1l reminds on mate ubuntu not having the software center
[16:00] <Bassem> any way to use vb.net on ubuntu
[16:00] <help0i> ok
[16:01] <help0i> anyone wanna help a brotha out
[16:01] <help0i> i need to have my win7host
[16:01] <help0i> use my ubuntu vm as gateway
[16:01] <help0i> to internet
[16:01] <nicomachus> help0i: someone already told you that's not possible.
[16:01] <OerHeks> help0i, easy on the enter
[16:01] <help0i> it's possible
[16:01] <lcbeta> who can download googlepinyin engine for ibus  apps
[16:01] <help0i> i just have add lol
[16:02] <OerHeks> lcbeta, it is not in the softwarecenter, is it?
[16:03] <lcbeta> i havent softwarecenter ,yes  its in but i cant download this
[16:03] <tomer> Bassem: Maybe "Mono" for Linux?
[16:03] <tlt> help0i, just get a usb network 'card'
[16:03] <lcbeta> i can only see this app on web
[16:04] <Bassem> tomer, im downloading it right now but do i need any thing else or any other updates?
[16:04] <lcbeta> hello?
[16:05] <tlt> help0i, get a physical cabled ethernet adapter for USB, then make the vm bind directly to it. Insert internet -> usbethadapter in vm -> win7
[16:05] <tlt> or wifi usb adapter, but bind it to the vm directly
[16:05] <tomer> Bassem: Sorry no idea, I've never used C#. Do you want to use it due to its familiarity or? Otherwise I would suggest C++ with e.g. Qt for application development.
[16:05] <OerHeks> tomer,  he wants vb visual basic, microsoft stuff
[16:05] <OerHeks> :-D
[16:06] <OerHeks> blasfemie, if you ask me
[16:06] <tomer> Hehe
[16:06] <lcbeta> who can send me softwarecenter or googlepinyin
[16:07] <k1l> !cn | lcbeta
[16:07] <TJ-> Bassem: does VisualStudio on Linux support VB?
[16:07] <lcbeta> thanks  im speak englisj not very good
[16:07] <k1l> lcbeta: maybe they can help you on your issues and its easier to communicate with them
[16:08] <lcbeta> k1 thank you so much
[16:08] <sruli> hi, ubuntu 14.04 I want to run script  at shutdown but before logoff where do i add this script? it has to be before logoff as the script syncs some files inside ecryptFS
[16:09] <aguywithoptimus> I wanna install linux. I always have a problem with Nvidia optimus, as I cannot disable it anywhere. I have a toshiba satellite p850-30v pspkbe with an i3 2350m processor and a Nvidia GT630M co processor.
[16:09] <aguywithoptimus> Any suggestions? I heard bumblebee is a plausible solution; I have weird display issues and heating issues running noveau
[16:09] <aguywithoptimus> help would be greatly appreciated :)
[16:09] <Bassem> TJ-, what do you mean
[16:10] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: ubuntu got nvidia-prime which is the official successor of bumblebee now
[16:10] <aguywithoptimus> will that work for me? I am a bit of a dumbarse with Linux, as I have never been able to use it
[16:10] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: so installing the nvidia driver from ubuntu repos will ship nvidia-prime too
[16:10] <aguywithoptimus> Ah okay
[16:11] <aguywithoptimus> so # apt-get install nvidia-prime ??
[16:11] <daftykins> aguywithoptimus: try 14.04.3 and as above, nvidia-prime
[16:11] <lcbeta> anyone can help me in the cn
[16:12] <daftykins> "in the cn" = what?
[16:12] <daftykins> oh
[16:12] <daftykins> !cn
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> language barrier
[16:12] <lcbeta> in chinese
[16:12] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: see the "prop. drivers" tab in the system-settings -> software and updates
[16:13] <aguywithoptimus> how do I reply on IRC?
[16:14] <aguywithoptimus> do I just enter the username
[16:14] <daftykins> yes begin typing a nickname then press tab to auto complete
[16:14] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: if you start with the username the user will get a hightligt
[16:14] <sruli> can anyone help with where to put a script to exec on shutdown before logoff?
[16:15] <lcbeta> how to install drivers on the raspberry pi2
[16:15] <k1l> lcbeta: what drivers?
[16:15] <k1l> lcbeta: so you are running ubuntu mate on the rpi2?
[16:15] <lcbeta> the raspberrt pi 2
[16:15] <aguywithoptimus> k1l thanks. I have always used MBR for booting, should I switch to UFEI for the ubuntu install (currently on Windows preparing and backing stuff up, as I have only just gone on Xmas break from studying at Uni)
[16:15] <lcbeta> yes
[16:15] <daftykins> legacy and EFI, MBR and GPT ;)
[16:16] <aguywithoptimus> legacy ***
[16:16] <lcbeta> im running ubuntu mate on the rpi2
[16:16] <lcbeta> so  next  what can i do
[16:16] <daftykins> lcbeta: #ubuntu-arm
[16:16] <lcbeta> ok
[16:16] <Bassem> any way to make titlebar bigger
[16:16] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: ubuntu works with both, efi or legacy(bios) boot. but you need to stick to the same that the installed windows uses if you dont want to reinstall windows.
[16:16] <lcbeta> #ubuntu-arm
[16:16] <daftykins> no you join it, don't type it
[16:17] <aguywithoptimus> k1l I am ditching Windows. I am studying Computing Science at Uni, so it will probably be of more use
[16:17] <TJ-> Bassem: Microsoft publish VisualStudio for Linux; have you installed it to see if it supports the VB functionality you require?
[16:18] <zbouby> hi all i have an issue with my nginx as a reverse proxy
[16:18] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: if you will end up with a ubuntu only use: choose what you like. switching to legacy boot will bring the old setup most are used to. but ubuntu works with efi, too
[16:18] <zbouby> the problem is that i cannot acess the website
[16:18] <Bassem> TJ-, i didnt install it hope you can give em the link
[16:18] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: i personally use legacy dualboot on my main laptop.
[16:18] <zbouby> this one is only accessible when i execute a CURL from my reverse proxy to the website
[16:19] <zbouby> and after around 5mn, the website become unreachable again
[16:19] <zbouby> do someone can help me regarding this issue ?
[16:19] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: but if you have spare time anyway it would be a good point to learn the efi stuff. since its gonna be there for the near future.
[16:20] <Luke> I installed mercurial on ubuntu vivid via pip (because I needed a later version). anyone know where that gets installed to?
[16:20] <aguywithoptimus> k1l I have another machine that I will keep Windows on. Is EFI better than legacy? I have never used EFI
[16:21] <aguywithoptimus> k1l also, thanks for the help too!
[16:22] <k1l> aguywithoptimus: if you have some time to read yourself into that make a efi setup. if you need a system asap just choose legacy in bios and make a mbr install (if your bios got that option)
[16:23] <k1l> !efi | aguywithoptimus
[16:25] <TJ-> Bassem: see https://code.visualstudio.com/
[16:25] <aguywithoptimus> ubottu k1l thanks for the advice
[16:26] <ubuntourist> Now konversation is failing me... But that's not (yet) why I'm here today.
[16:28] <aguywithoptimus> afk
[16:28] <ubuntourist> It's what SHOULD be a simple question: Which. module. does. a. device. use?  Google has sent me to lsusb, lshw, lspci, modprobe, modinfo, grepping modules.aliases, etc.
[16:28] <Bassem> TJ-, yes i downloaded it but that is only code,i want a form editing
[16:29] <tomer> Bassem: What do you intend to do with VB net?
[16:29] <ubuntourist> Isn't there a simple way to say "Give me the  filename of the driver that controls 046d:c404?"
[16:29] <k1l> ubuntourist: depends. on. the. exact. device. and. used. ubuntu. version.
[16:29] <TJ-> Bassem: Ahhh, OK, I'm surprised there is no forms editor though that is the area where MS tools were always strong
[16:29] <TJ-> ubuntourist: Yes
[16:30] <k1l> ubuntourist: so usb device? use -v on lsusb then
[16:30] <ubuntourist> kll: Ubuntu Studio, wily, Logitech Trackman Wheel (046d:c404).
[16:31] <Bassem> TJ-, yes
[16:32] <k1l> ubuntourist: try "usb-devices" in terminal
[16:33] <sruli> i need my script to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.04
[16:33] <ubuntourist> k1l: Did the lsusb -v (before coming here).  It gives me a lot of information but nothing that matches "ls -R /lib/modules".
[16:34] <TJ-> ubuntourist: "sudo lshw -businfo -numeric | grep -i '046d:c404' "
[16:36] <ubuntourist> k1l: I want to add to /etc/rc.local a modprobe for the trackman
[16:37] <srg> I'm buying a wireless dongle and I'd like to make sure it's supported in both linux and win10. Can anyone help me? It's an Asus USB-N13 Wireless N.
[16:37] <ubuntourist> TJ- That gave bizarre results: The terminal overwrote it the line after the command a few times.  "reset" and tried again. Same overwriting effect.
[16:39] <ubuntourist> TJ- Just tried it without the grep and got a long list. So, apparently, there is no driver for the Trackman I'm using at the moment?
[16:39] <hajk> hi
[16:40] <nicomachus> srg: Are you looking at the A1 or the B1 model?
[16:41] <hajk> I am new with ubuntu/linux and i have to learn it for school. My task is to start "synaptic" and install "xfce-terminalemulator". i set the checkbox for it, how do i install it now?
[16:41] <srg> nicomachus: Not sure. I was going to buy it today from a local computer store - their website doesn't say B1 or A1
[16:41] <Bassem> how can i run mkv format on ubuntu
[16:41] <daftykins> matroska is a container, video in this container can likely be played with VLC
[16:42] <daftykins> hajk: there's a menu option to enact the changes set
[16:42] <nicomachus> srg: looks like the rev. A1 model comes with a ralink chipset, which is fine. howeveer, the rev_B1 model comes with a realtek chipset which uses the rtl8192cu driver, which is very problematic in ubuntu right now.
[16:42] <nicomachus> srg: I *cannot* recommend that realtek chipset for linux use (I currently have a dongle that uses it, and connection drops often)
[16:43] <ubuntourist> k1l: Thanks. "usb-devices" was what I was seeking.  (And the answer is, it uses a generic Human Interface Device driver: usbhid.)
[16:43] <srg> nicomachus: Ahh, ok. Thank you very much! Is there a dongle you'd recommend? It's for a wireless-g network (yeah, it's old)
[16:44] <nicomachus> srg: I have a personal preference for Panda Wireless, because they are well-supported in linux, but basically anything that doesn't use that realtek chipset should work fine.
[16:45] <ubuntourist> (Now to figure out why konversation's gone off the rails.  Ta-ta.)
[16:51] <hajk> in synaptic i cant hit the apply button, did i start synaptic in a wrong way? I just typed synaptic in the terminal
[16:51] <ioria> hajk, what are you looking for ?
[16:52] <hajk> i have to install "xfce-terminalemulator" via synaptics for school. I am completely new to ubuntu/linux
[16:52] <ralpheeee> when i try to start teamviewer i get "mkdir: cannot create director"
[16:53] <ioria> hajk, you can't find anything with that word in Synaptic ...  you mean xfce4-terminal ? alias the terminal for xfce ?
[16:53] <willington> Can I connect to a VPN  without openVPN?
[16:53] <ioria> !info xfce4-terminal
[16:53] <nicomachus> willington: you can...
[16:54] <willington> reasonably? :P I have a very minimal distro, with no package manager, and I don't know how to do it
[16:54] <hajk> ioria, i can find the xfce-terminal and i can click the box for (remember for installation), but i cant hit the apply button on the top.
[16:54] <willington> I also asked about this earlier today , but I'm stuck
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> willington  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[16:54] <nicomachus> willington: why wouldn't you want to use openVPN? it's the most secure by far
[16:55] <ioria> hajk, sudo synaptic
[16:55] <sruli> TJ-: can you please help? i need my script to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.04
[16:55] <hajk> ioria, what stands sudo for?
[16:55] <ioria> hajk, super do :)
[16:55] <sruli> hajk: superuser do
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> gksu for gui programs
[16:56] <ioria> hajk, like man and superman
[16:56] <hajk> ioria, thank you very much, it worked, and now finally understand this sudo^^
[16:56] <ioria> hajk, you cannot install stuff without the 'sudo' rights ... :þ
[16:56] <willington> MonkeyDust: doesn't exist, http://pastebin.com/rtX0HVXM
[16:57] <ioria> hajk, you 're welcome
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> willington  then it's not ubuntu... what's the output of   lsb_release -sd
[16:57] <mcphail> hajk: note MonkeyDust's advice, and use gksu rather than sudo. sudo has a few bugs when it comes to launching graphical programs. (Or launch synaptic from the menu, where it should be set up correctly)
[16:57] <willington> nicomachus: I'd love to use it, but I have no package manager, and very little tools on my system to build it myself (e.g. Make)
[16:58] <willington> Oh oops, I thought I was on ##linux
[16:58] <willington> My fault!
[16:58] <hajk> ioria, makes sense
[16:58] <willington> thank you anyway
[16:59] <ioria> hajk, note the MonkeyDust comment .... for graphical software you use 'gksu' ....
[16:59] <Bassem> is there something like internet download manager?
[16:59] <hajk> mcphail, as long the teacher asks for sudo, i have to use it, for me personally i will remember your comment, thank you
[16:59] <mcphail> hajk: sudo _will_ break your system for graphical apps
[17:00] <mcphail> !gksu | hajk
[17:00] <mcphail> ..argh - that factoid needs updated
[17:00] <hajk> mcphail, i am running ubuntu via virtualbox on a mac. whats the worst case scenario that can happen?
[17:01] <mcphail> hajk: The files in your home directory can be assigned to root, rather than your own user, making it impossible to log in. It is generally possible to fix, but a real pain in hte neck to do so
[17:02] <hajk> mcphail, ok thank you i wont use sudo in the future anymore.
[17:02] <mcphail> hajk: sudo is fine for command-line apps, though ;)
[17:03] <hajk> mcphail, i think i have to work further into linux to understand all the differences, like i said i just started right now using linux
[17:04] <mcphail> hajk: the "sudo" thing is an oddity - lease don't think Linux is genrally as annoying as that. Really, we should have fixed the sudo bug 10 years ago
[17:05] <mcphail> !botsnack
[17:05] <mcphail> stupid bot...
[17:06] <ioria> hajk, you can check your home folder with ls -al ~     all the files and folder should be owned by the user not by root
[17:08] <ioria> hajk, if you have some doubts , please pastebinit it
[17:08] <hajk> ioria, its all used by the user exept drwxr-xr-x  3
[17:08] <ioria> hajk, paste the whole line
[17:09] <utu8o> anyone try the new Unreal Tournament game for Linux yet?
[17:09] <hajk> ioria, can you give me the shortcut for copy and paste?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> utu8o  #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <ioria> hajk, it's just a line ... you can paste here
[17:09] <ioria> !paste
[17:10] <hajk> !paste
[17:10] <mcphail> hajk: just highlight the text with your mouse and then paste it here with the middle button on your mouse (as long as it is just 1 line)
[17:11] <hajk> drwxr-xr-x
[17:11] <marchesini> hi! im trying do some stuff on the raspberry pi with ubuntu core, but the new package manager "snappy" doesn't have the package apache, lighhtp, glassfish or mysql... how can i install this apps on my raspb?
[17:11] <hajk> i feel a little stupid right now, not knowing what to do
[17:12] <ioria> hajk, no, should be like this    '  drwxr-xr-x  4 root   root           4096 Nov 24 08:22 ..    '
[17:12] <mcphail> marchesini: yu may want to joing the #snappy channel for specific advice. they do things a bit differently in snappy-land
[17:12] <marchesini> tks mcphail
[17:12] <hajk> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 Nov 28 09:47 ..
[17:13] <mcphail> hajk: please don't feel stupid. You're doing fine
[17:13] <ioria> hajk, it's the /home, don't worry
[17:13] <ioria> hajk, the /home it's not your home  /hme/user .   I'ts owned by root
[17:13] <ioria> hajk, so is root root
[17:14] <mcphail> hajk: the best way to learn about Ubuntu is to get in there and break it. And you haven't broken anything yet ;)
[17:16] <hajk> ioria, mcphail, thanks for oyur help i will try my best learning to use linux propeprly. i have to leave now, but i am shure i will nee some help soon :)
[17:16] <mcphail> hajk: enjoy!
[17:22] <mrsam96> hi...i wanna see a local site but i cant and see this problem... To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.
[17:22] <Bassem> is there something like Internet download manager?
[17:24] <ioria> mrsam96, firefox ?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-download-managers-available-in-ubuntu.html
[17:25] <Bassem> how can i run MKV video format
[17:25] <mrsam96> ioria yeah and chrum
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  with vlc
[17:26] <ioria> mrsam96, you mean chromium ?
[17:26] <BYoung> Hi! I need to make all new users auto add to dialout group. Is this possible?
[17:26] <TJ-> BYoung: yes. see "man 5 adduser.conf"
 yeah
[17:27] <mrsam96> plz solve my problem very neccessary for me
[17:27] <BYoung> Thanks!
[17:27] <ioria> mrsam96, dpkg -l flashplugin-installer
[17:28] <mrsam96> ioria : flashplugin-in 11.2.202.554 amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin install
[17:28] <TJ-> BYoung: set EXTRA_GROUPS as appropriate, and ensure ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1
[17:29] <ioria> mrsam96, can you pastebinit  it ?
[17:29] <mrsam96> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[17:29] <mrsam96> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[17:29] <mrsam96> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[17:29] <mrsam96> ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
[17:29] <mrsam96> +++-[17:29] <mrsam96> ii  flashplugin-in 11.2.202.554 amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin install
[17:30] <ioria> mrsam96, it's installed and should work ... but it's a bit deprecated
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> mrsam96  next time, use !pastebin
[17:30] <mrsam96> oh srry ok
[17:31] <ioria> mrsam96, have you activated it in FF ?
[17:31] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, No suitable decoder module:
[17:31] <Bassem> VLC does not support the audio or video format "hevc". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
no im fresh user what is the ff?
[17:31] <ioria> mrsam96, Fire Fox
[17:32] <HoloIRCUser2> nuvre are you here
[17:32] <mrsam96> <ioria no how can i do it?>
[17:33] <ioria> mrsam96, about:addons    in the ff bar , and check plugins
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  try to convert it to something readable... use winff or so
 so wait to chek it
[17:33] <ioria> mrsam96, maybe ( idk why) is set to 'Never Activate'
[17:34] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, how can i use winff
 i cant find it :(
[17:35] <ioria> mrsam96, sudo updatedb    and   locate libflashplayer
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  it'sz in the repo's, simply install, then use it
 ok wait
[17:37] <mrsam96> sudo updatedb    and   locate libflashplaye.....its dosnot work in terminal
[17:37] <ioria> mrsam96,  two commands ....
[17:37] <ioria> mrsam96, sudo updatedb
[17:37] <ioria> mrsam96, locate libflashplayer
[17:38] <mrsam96> sudo updatedb cant find this command
[17:38] <ioria> mrsam96,  cat /etc/issue
[17:39] <mrsam96> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[17:40] <ioria> mrsam96,   which updatedb
[17:41] <mrsam96> what?
[17:41] <mrsam96> sudo updatedb>>>> cant find this command
[17:42] <ioria> mrsam96,   dpkg -l mlocate
[17:43] <mrsam96> so where do i copy that? can i copy in pv?
[17:43] <ioria> mrsam96,   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:44] <ioria> mrsam96,   please, keep it in the channel
[17:44] <mrsam96> huuum
[17:44] <mrsam96> ok
[17:45] <mrsam96> i cant install print bin
[17:45] <mrsam96> pastebin*
[17:45] <ioria> mrsam96,  why ?
[17:45] <mrsam96> i dont know...i use for command
[17:46] <mrsam96> just it but cant install
[17:46] <mrsam96> but it is without error :o
[17:47] <ioria> mrsam96,  you can't install at all ... i mean anything ?
[17:47] <Bassem> is there some tool that show network traffic bandwidth
[17:47] <mrsam96> no i install some thing but i think pastebin is install but i cant find it
wireshack
[17:47] <ioria> mrsam96,   dpkg -l mlocate   | pastebinit
[17:48] <ioria> mrsam96,   it will give you an url   .... post it here
[17:48] <mrsam96> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14008869/
[17:48] <mrsam96> yeah
[17:49] <Bassem> mrsam96, dos it have like desktop widget
 im not sure
[17:49] <ioria> mrsam96,   and you get 'not found'  when you run  sudo updatedb
[17:49] <ioria> ?
[17:50] <Bassem> mrsam96, i want some thing that show me the bandwidth all the time
[17:50] <mrsam96> ioria> yeah
[17:51] <ioria> mrsam96,     locate
 if u want this program comeback say to me plz...i need the same program
[17:51] <mrsam96> locate: no pattern to search for specified
[17:51] <Bassem> mrsam96, what do you mean
[17:51] <JrJ>   :)
[17:52] <ioria> mrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so
[17:52] <mrsam96> ioria whats that?
[17:52] <mrsam96> its url?
[17:53] <ioria> mrsam96, locate = find a file   the file to find is =  libflashplayer.so
search ti find ur program and say to me ur result
[17:53] <Bassem> mrsam96, im searching already before i ask her
 use it and then
[17:54] <ioria> mrsam96, what's the output  ?
so i cant help u im look like u new user :)
nothing
[17:54] <ioria> mrsam96, ls -l /usr/bin/updatedb
[17:55] <mrsam96> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 دسامب 14 18:11 /usr/bin/updatedb -> /etc/alternatives/updatedb
[17:55] <ioria> mrsam96, you have that file.....
 so?
[17:56] <ioria> mrsam96, so, it's impossible that says 'command not found'
 swear god not found :(
[17:56] <mrsam96> give me command again to test it
[17:57] <ioria> mrsam96, ls -l /etc/alternatives/updatedb
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: use conky for network widgets n stuff
[17:58] <mrsam96> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 دسامب 14 18:10 /etc/alternatives/updatedb -> /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate
[17:58] <syntroPi> i killed Xorg, now ubuntu kernel is completely unresponsive showing red rectangle and beeping, not even sysrq works... how can i unmount my usb hdd and reboot now?   help!
[17:58] <ioria> mrsam96, ls -l /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate
[17:59] <mrsam96> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43768 نوامب 18  2014 /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate
[17:59] <ioria> mrsam96, sudo updatedb
[17:59] <ux2> hello
[17:59] <ux2> anyone from India that is awake can help with indian languages? package
 i use it but dont see anything output
[18:00] <ioria> mrsam96, no output  ... it's normal
[18:00] <ioria> mrsam96, you said 'command not found'
[18:00] <syntroPi> any idead howto regain control?
 huum..so what can i do?
[18:01] <ioria> mrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so
 at first i cant foun it
[18:01] <ioria> mrsam96, ok
[18:01] <ioria> mrsam96, locate libflashplayer.so
[18:02] <mrsam96> .
[18:02] <syntroPi> how can i unmount my usb hdd without data loss?
[18:02] <Aguywithoptimus> hello
[18:02] <mrsam96> here:: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[18:02] <Aguywithoptimus> I have installed the nvidia-prime package using apt, what do I do now?
[18:03] <sruli> i have a script i need to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.04
[18:03] <syntroPi> nvidia dribers is pure bs
[18:03] <ux2> sruli: yo ufrom India?
[18:03] <ioria> mrsam96,   ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[18:03] <sruli> ux2: no, what makes u think that?
[18:03] <a3gis> Hello! I am a 3rd year undergraduate student who's looking for a mentor to learn C++. Basically I have never done any C/C++ before, and I would like to get into it. It would be great if someone knowledgeable in the subject could guide me (e.g. by email) into what I should study, if time allows :)
[18:03] <mancomunado> Nueva Trova
[18:04] <mrsam96> flashplugin-alternative.so
[18:04] <Aguywithoptimus> I have Optimus. Noveau is absolute shite, the mouse flickers and disappears and it is unusable
[18:04] <nicomachus> !in | ux2
[18:04] <Aguywithoptimus> I was told by k1l earlier to install it
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> !language | Aguywithoptimus
[18:04] <ux2> nicomachus: it is dead
[18:04] <nicomachus> ux2: this channel can help you, but only in English.
[18:04] <ioria> mrsam96,   please, highlight or iìll miss it
[18:04] <TJ-> ioria: I think you may be chasing the wrong problem. Originally mrsam96 said the site reported "...version 11.5.0 or greater required ..." and the installed version is 11.2.xxx ... so it could be flashplayer itself executed code that reported the warning, or else the Javascript in the web page did.
[18:05] <ux2> nicomachus: where are u from?
[18:05] <Aguywithoptimus> is there any alternative to nvidia-prime then? I cannot disable optimus in the bios or anything
[18:05] <ioria> TJ- .... mmmmm
[18:05] <nicomachus> ux2: USA. You can ask your question in English if you'd like, otherwise I'm sorry but we can't help.
 flashplugin-alternative.so
[18:06] <TJ-> ioria: possible get mrsam96 to test on the Adobe test web page to find out if any flash does work?
 i can open this site with windows but in ubuntu i cant
[18:06] <ioria> mrsam96,  you said you have no Shackwave in FF plugins page ...
 i can open all of site with adobe i think,...but i cant open this site
[18:07] <ioria> TJ-  good idea
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: you can only change it with nvidia-optimus
[18:07] <TJ-> mrsam96: With Firefox visit https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[18:07] <syntroPi> i hate hate hate nvidia
 i saied say to me exactly untill find it
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: please keep it support related
[18:08] <ioria> mrsam96,  so flash, in general, is working ? it's a problem of version ?
[18:08] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje do I just get that using apt? syntroPi ... I do too, but being a first year ug in computer science, I need something that works and I have no money to buy something else. Windows left me at the end of my tether
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | Aguywithoptimus
[18:09] <TJ-> mrsam96: According to Adobe's 'Test Flasg Playaer' page they don't supply a version of Flash for Linux greater than 11.2 https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
 i think it working but cant open this site...i use vcenter on my vmware...and vcenter give me a site to use but i cant open it
wait to check
[18:09] <TJ-> mrsam96: unless you're using Chrome, or Chromium
[18:09] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsyje but what do I do with it?
[18:09] <ioria> mrsam96,  in this case you could use pepper with chromium ... or enable Canonical Partner and install adobe-flashplugin
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: after install, you need to open nvidia-settings and set to performance mode
[18:10] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje but what do I do with it?
 cant open
[18:10] <Aguywithoptimus> I am wondering where to execute it from
[18:10] <Aguywithoptimus> I have never really used Linux much... I am a bit lost :(
[18:10] <TJ-> mrsam96: "can't open" what?
[18:10] <gr7345nw61> Anyone here running ubuntu on a chromebook ?
[18:10] <ioria> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | mrsam96
  install chromium?
[18:11] <ikonia> gr7345nw61: depends what model chromebook
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: dash and open nvidia-settings icon
[18:11] <gr7345nw61> Looking to buy an acer chromebook
[18:11] <ioria> mrsam96,  you said you have it
[18:11] <syntroPi> nvidia driver rendered my kernel *completely* unresponsive ith drives mointes rw! what can i do now? i dont want to pull the power... damn i hate nvidia
  yeah wait to test it
[18:11] <mrsam96> <TJ cant open ur link
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: instead of cursing, please focus on the issue
[18:11] <ikonia> gr7345nw61: so ubuntu isn't officially released on the chromebooks,
[18:12] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje no icon here...should I apt install it
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: depends wich driver your on?
[18:12] <TJ-> mrsam96: You're in Iran - maybe your country or ISP blocks those connections?
[18:12] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje noveau at the moment
[18:12] <syntroPi> lotuspsychje any idea howto regain control without sysrq?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: that wont work, you need an nvidia-driver
yeah i thing blobk ur link here
[18:12] <ikonia> mrsam96: what link is blocked exactly
[18:13] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje so what do i do to obtain it? Use the driver utility in settings or apt-get install something
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: check additional drivers section
[18:13] <mrsam96> ikonia> adobflashplayer
[18:13] <ikonia> mrsam96: thats not a link
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: wich chipset and ubuntu version you have?
[18:13] <ikonia> mrsam96: what LINK is blocked
[18:13] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje ... any one in particular, there are several
like of site adob
[18:14] <ioria> mrsam96,  can you paste the entire link you want to reach ?
[18:14] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje ... 14.04.3 ubuntu 64 bit. Uhm... as for the chipset. Gimme five minutes
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: you could try nvidia-340
[18:14] <ikonia> mrsam96: EXACTLY what LINK are you using
[18:14] <syntroPi> i dont want to loose data, how to reboot?
[18:14] <mrsam96> https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
 after search i see ...server not found
[18:15] <ikonia> mrsam96: ok - so if you use the ubuntu software center, you can install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[18:15] <syntroPi> noone has got an idea?
[18:15] <ikonia> mrsam96: that will install the last official release of Flash from adobe on linux which was 2011 I think
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: ive read adobe fixxed some new updates for linux recently
[18:16] <ikonia> syntroPi: what's your issue, you appear in distress
[18:16] <mrsam96> flashplugin-nonfree  i cant find it but i can find adobeflashplugin
[18:16] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: official docs say it's still dead
[18:16] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje awesome! Thanks. Will give it a try
[18:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: perfect, use that
 im using that
[18:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: then what's the problem ?
 but cant open my site
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> Aguywithoptimus: after install driver,reboot and enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[18:16] <ikonia> mrsam96: what is your site ?
[18:17] <syntroPi> ikonia i lost control over the kernel with drives mounted; sysrq does not work
[18:17] <ikonia> syntroPi: lost control of the kenrel ?? what
 im use vcenter...vcenter create a link with https and give me to to use...but cant open it
[18:17] <ikonia> syntroPi: why don't you just explain the issue
[18:17] <ikonia> mrsam96: as in vmware ?
[18:17] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje thanks for the help! Appreciate it :)
yeah yeah yeah
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Aguywithoptimus if things go wrong after reboot
[18:18] <ikonia> mrsam96: what happens when you try to use the URl in your browser
[18:18] <syntroPi> i killed xorg now it displays a red rectangle and beeps ecery ten seconds or so. system completely unresponsive wont take any keyboard inpit
[18:18] <ikonia> keep in mind vcetner and vcloud can have problems with old versions of flash
[18:18] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje cheers for the info.
[18:19] <ikonia> syntroPi: how did you kill xorg ? and where is the red rectangle ?
[18:19] <syntroPi> on the screen i killed -kill xorg
[18:19] <ikonia> if you press numlock or capslock does the numlock/capslock light go on / off on your keyboard
 isee this.....this site use adobeflash player 11.5 and yo have to install 11.5 or later
[18:20] <ikonia> mrsam96: then your plugin version is too old
[18:20] <ikonia> 11.2 was the last release from adobe I think
[18:20] <syntroPi> ikonia nope does not
[18:20] <mrsam96> <ikoni yeah 11.2 srry
[18:20] <JrJ> Reinstall..
[18:20] <ikonia> syntroPi: ok, so power off is the only real option
[18:21] <ioria> mrsam96,   try to enable Canonical Partner in Software and Updates and install adobe-flashplugin
[18:21] <ikonia> syntroPi: you could try to ssh to the machine to make sure the network stack is dead too
[18:21] <syntroPi> fuuu i have data mounted rw
[18:21] <ikonia> mrsam96: vmware requires 11.5 or later
[18:21] <Aguywithoptimus> lotuspsychje just rebooting
[18:21] <ikonia> mrsam96: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2005083
 yeah actually.
[18:22] <ikonia> mrsam96: please stop changing facts
 whats that?
[18:22] <ikonia> mrsam96: basically flash is dead on linux, in the real world
[18:22] <mrsam96> lioria: i do this
[18:23] <sruli> can someone please help me? i have a script i need to exec on shutdown/reboot before ecryptFS dismounts? where can i put this script? regular runlevels are no good here as if i call for shutdown/reboot they run after logout - ubuntu 14.04
 cant open ur link
[18:23] <ikonia> mrsam96: it says you need flash 11.5 or later
[18:23] <tlt> sruli, what does the script do?
[18:24] <ioria> mrsam96,   i can open it and i'm 11.2
[18:24] <ikonia> mrsam96: can you see this link pastebin.ubuntu.com ?
yeah
[18:25] <ikonia> mrsam96: put the contents of "dpkg -l | grep -i flash" into that site, click submit and show us the URL it gives you
 ok
[18:25] <sruli> tlt: i need it to sync a few files, i have the script it works fine when i test it, the problem is i need it to run before ecryptFS dismount which happens before logoff, when adding the script to run levels even as K01 it runs after logoff, i need the script to stop the logoff until it completes and then continue with shutdown
[18:26] <tlt> sruli, sounds like something you want to do manually. Do you really want a script like that hard-set into every shutdown?
[18:26] <tlt> make a script that you run manually instead perhaps
 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14009947/
[18:27] <sruli> tlt: yes it has to run without me or other users remebering to execute it before shutdown
[18:27] <syntroPi> gosh i never have seen a linux kernel messed up so badly. completely lost control.freaking scary
[18:27] <ikonia> mrsam96: have you restarted your browser
[18:27] <ikonia> syntroPi: "lost control" what are you talking about
[18:27] <syntroPi> that i had to pull the plug
restart it and then?
[18:28] <syntroPi> hope all my data is uncorrupted
[18:28] <ikonia> mrsam96: have you restarted firefox since you installed that package ?
[18:28] <ikonia> syntroPi: you appear to just be saying random things like "lost control of the kernel" over and over, implying that you "had control" over it
i do any thing...just install ubuntu and install vmware
[18:28] <ikonia> syntroPi: the kernel has hung, you killed software agressively, it can happen
[18:29] <ikonia> mrsam96: did you restart your firefox browser after you installed that package yes/no
[18:29] <ioria> mrsam96,   can you open this https://vimeo.com/26152501  ?
[18:29] <syntroPi> yeah my fault but anyhow it shouldnt
yeah
[18:30] <mrsam96> ioria: wait
[18:30] <ikonia> syntroPi: you hit software with a hammer, it can have a bad impact
[18:31] <mrsam96> ioria: write connecting.... but i cant see any reaction
[18:31] <tlt> sruli, other users won't benefit from your particular user's ecryptfs unencrypted actions though
[18:31] <tlt> unless other users all use the same account
[18:31] <syntroPi> sure xorg could go to hell but not the whole kernel! i bet it had to do with nvidia binary
[18:32] <sruli> tlt: i need to add the script to each user account
 i think never cant solve my problem :(
[18:32] <ikonia> syntroPi: you have no idea what caused
[18:32] <ikonia> syntroPi: I'd advise you to not make these sort of statements when getting help unless you know / understand the words you're saying
 i really dont like come back to shit windows
[18:32] <ikonia> mrsam96: please don't swear
[18:32] <ioria> mrsam96,   more simple, can you open any flash videos ?
 yeah i can
 LOOKLIKE THIS http://www.aparat.com/
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> chromium to the rescue for flash issues
[18:34] <syntroPi> ok trying to investigate this scary accisent... where would rhe kernel write its last syslog message in such a case?
[18:34] <ikonia> syntroPi: in the syslog
[18:36] <tlt> sruli, this is for bash logout but perhaps relevant? https://serverfault.com/questions/318813/how-to-run-a-script-on-logging-out
[18:36] <ioria> mrsam96,  ok,,,, you can try with pepperflashplugin-nonfree  in chromium or enable adobe-flashplugin
[18:36] <tlt> except it'd run for each closing of a virtual terminal while in X also possibly
 how can do this
[18:37] <sruli> tlt: seen that its good for ssh logout
[18:37] <ioria> mrsam96,  sudo apt-get install  pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[18:37] <ikonia> if you can see that flash video - but not your vmware one, it means the plug is too old
[18:37] <ikonia> as the error message and knowledge base article says
 E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfre .... i cant install
[18:38] <ioria> !!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[18:38] <ioria> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[18:39] <ioria> mrsam96,  you miss an 'e' at the end
[18:39] <mrsam96> ikonia> so if y plug is old..what can i do?
 no for write for u miss  e
[18:39] <ikonia> mrsam96: try the pepperflash plugin - or don't use linux to manage your ESXI
[18:39] <korst3n> Hey, a package i'm trying to install requires libavcodec-extra-56. I see that it's only available on vivid but I'm on trusty. Would there be a problem if i downloaded it and installed on my machine?
[18:40] <mrsam96> ioria...yeah is currect i forget e....i install it
[18:40] <ioria> mrsam96, mg
 install that so?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> korst3n: best to use package versions for your ubuntu version
[18:41] <ikonia> mrsam96: sorry I don't understand
 install that
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> korst3n: whats your end goal exactly?
[18:41] <ioria> mrsam96, test it in Chromium
[18:41] <mrsam96> what can i do after install pepper
[18:41] <mrsam96> oh ok
[18:41] <mrsam96> what can i do after install pepp
[18:41] <ioria> mrsam96, open Chromium
[18:41] <tlt> sruli, 14.04 uses upstart I guess, perhaps you'll find some clues here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
 fo  test it i have to test with local ip...then im Go out from chanell ok?
[18:41] <syntroPi> ikonia there is lots of nv-kern-close regieser dumps
[18:42] <korst3n> lotuspsychje: right.. i'm trying to install attract-mode, a mame frontend. i'll see if installing previous versions of libavcodec-extras will suffice.
[18:42] <ioria> mrsam96, what ?
[18:42] <ikonia> syntroPi: ok ?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | korst3n maybe this can also help?
[18:42] <mrsam96>  for connect to my esxi i have to connect with private ip...so i have to left ypu here...COME BACK SOON after test
[18:42] <mrsam96> understand? :)
[18:42] <korst3n> lotuspsychje: cheers! i'll check it.
[18:42] <ikonia> mrsam96: no
[18:43] <ub_ubuntu> best place to start learning linux kernel
[18:43] <ioria> mrsam96, really not, but go ahead
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> ub_ubuntu: #kernel
[18:44] <mrsam96> ioria>im using publick ip now....esxi in in the local network with private ip...i cant find it
[18:44] <ub_ubuntu> :)
[18:44] <ioria> mrsam96, ohhh
[18:44] <mrsam96> i have to use private ip too untill find it
[18:44] <mrsam96> ok?
[18:44] <mrsam96> :0
[18:44] <mrsam96> :)
[18:44] <ioria> mrsam96, sure
[18:44] <mrsam96> Im come back and say to u my result :)
[18:47] <syntroPi> im not sure but i really think xorg froze because of nvifia, i killed it then and got lots of nvidia register dumps and even cpu sofz lockups
[18:47] <ikonia> syntroPi: so you understand the nv module is not the binary blob module
[18:47] <mrsam96> hi againt
[18:47] <mrsam96> n
[18:48] <mrsam96> i see this error again ::To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.
[18:48] <ioria> mrsam96, ok,  install Google Chrome
 so i think have problem with google chrum :(
[18:49] <ioria> mrsam96, if you get an error with that too, the problem is elsewhere
 gow can i download it?
[18:50] <diverdude> hi.... is there a log file which i can look in to see how active the network has been since last reboot? same with cpu and memory usage
[18:50] <ikonia> diverdude: you could look at sar
[18:50] <ikonia> however ifconfig shows the interface stats
[18:50] <ioria> mrsam96, http://tecadmin.net/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu/
[18:50] <ikonia> they get reset at reboot
[18:50] <ub_ubuntu> how to remove zombies
[18:50] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: reboot is the easy / quick way
[18:50] <syntroPi> nvrm vm nv_kern_close is not from nvidia binsry?
[18:50] <ikonia> syntroPi: they are normally the opensource modules
[18:51] <ub_ubuntu> doesnt help.
[18:51] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: what do you mean doesn't help
[18:51] <ub_ubuntu> even after restart there is a zombie
[18:51] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: then you need to stop that process from starting
[18:51] <syntroPi> ikonia i did not load them i have binary nvidia only
[18:51] <ikonia> as a reboot cleares it down
[18:52] <ikonia> syntroPi: then you need to black list them
[18:52] <ub_ubuntu> how ?
[18:52] <ioria> mrsam96, it  uses 19 ... so far above 11.5
[18:52] <ikonia> ok
[18:52] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: what is the zombie process
[18:52] <syntroPi> lsmod | grep nv just shows nvidia not nv or nouveau
[18:52] <ikonia> syntroPi: so it's not loaded now
[18:53] <ub_ubuntu> gsettings
[18:53] <syntroPi> why shoild it be loaded before? because i killed xoeg?
[18:53] <mrsam96> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. i see it when i want to install that
[18:53] <ikonia> syntroPi: I don't know - this is your box and "your in control of your kernel" work it through and look at senarios
[18:54] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: how are you seeing this as a zombie ?
 i just download flash player plug in and dont enable it...may be i have to enable it   yeah?
[18:54] <ioria> mrsam96, maybe
[18:55] <ub_ubuntu> when i use top command it shows 1 zombie and then i use ps aux | grep Z
[18:55] <ioria> brb
 how can i enable it
[18:55] <mrsam96> ?
[18:55] <syntroPi> i think it is the binary it even says [nvidia] behind the reg dumps
[18:55] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: if you look at the launchpad.net you'll see this bug has come up a few times in ubuntu https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2013-05/msg00753.html
[18:55] <ikonia> it looks like it keeps getting fixed and re-introrduced
[18:55] <ikonia> I wouldn't worry about it, a replacement one will spawn to take it's place
[18:55] <ikonia> find the current bug and subscribe to it to wait for a fix
[18:56] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: I see references to it from 2011 - all the way to 2014, so I'd bet money there is a current bug open for it
[18:56] <ikonia> if not, open one
[18:56] <sheepdog> I have video coming out of one card, but no the other, lspci shows my card, where would I go to configure my monitors
[18:57] <ub_ubuntu> yeah. How do i do that ?
[18:57] <ikonia> ub_ubuntu: do what ?
[18:57] <ub_ubuntu> Bug Report and Subscribe for it..
[18:58] <ikonia> !bugs | ub_ubuntu
[19:00] <ub_ubuntu> okay
[19:01] <syntroPi> ikonia, thanks for your help, anyhow i will try to investigate the logs further with patience and when i calmed down
[19:02] <ub_ubuntu> thanks ikonia
[19:03] <ioria> mrsam96, what did you do, sorry ? you downloaded what ?
[19:04] <pmaxk> hi
[19:05] <tdiesel_> Hello!
[19:08] <emgee> Hey #ubuntu, is there a PPA floating around for a php7 curl?
[19:08] <pmaxk> how thinks going in linux world?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | emgee
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | pmaxk
[19:09] <pmaxk> Ok
[19:12] <emgee> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the link, Lotus.
[19:15] <rduplain> I realize that lucid is no longer supported, etc etc, but I'm interested in a `do-release-upgrade` on an older system. I'm getting "list of unauthenticated packages". I rewrote sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com, but still cannot get around the issue. Any tips?
[19:16] <sjjenni> on my work system we have boxtrapper, is it or something like it available for ubuntu?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> rduplain: is there a reason you dont wanna clean install?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> sjjenni: can you tell us what it does?
[19:17] <rduplain> Yes. It's a long-running remote server.
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> rduplain: like in remote takeover a pc?
[19:20] <TJ-> rduplain: after adding old-releases, did you redo "apt-get update" ?
[19:20] <rduplain> yes
[19:21] <TJ-> rduplain: what releases is it going from, and to ?
[19:22] <rduplain> lucid to precise
[19:22] <todar> #mint
[19:23] <TJ-> rduplain: did you add the -proposed or -backports and update ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ?
[19:28] <rduplain> TJ-: I have not. I just tried it. No package ubuntu-release-upgrader-core. update-manager-core already on latest version after apt-get update.
[19:29] <TJ-> rduplain: sometimes a do-release-upgrade from -backports is required, but I'm not seeing any binary packages for ubuntu-release-upgrader-core in lucid-{proposed,backports}. Maybe you can pastebin the output of do-release-upgrade you're seeing?
[19:30] <zrneely> Does anyone know why gsettings might not work in Tmux? I can read properties, but setting them has no effect (and no error). The commands work perfectly outside of Tmux.
[19:30] <zrneely> For reference, I'm using gnome-shell and have export $(dbus-launch) in my bashrc.
[19:36] <Simonious> I followed the instructions here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Ubuntu_.2814.04.3.29 starting with wget... and it boots, things are working, but apt-get update gives: http://pastebin.com/ZDFzADYq - I'm still poking at it, but I'd welcome suggestions to get apt-get working properly.
[19:37] <ikonia> Simonious: your dns isn't working
[19:37]  * Simonious ponders
[19:39] <Simonious> ikonia: will look into that, thanks.
[19:42] <Plone> is there anything available for linux like citrix?
[19:42] <ikonia> ltsp ?
[19:43] <Plone> wazzat?
[19:43] <ikonia> look it up, see if it's what you need/want
[19:43] <Plone> ah terminal server
[19:43] <Plone> thanks @ikonia
[19:43]  * Plone goes off to googlify
[19:44] <Plone> nope
[19:44] <Plone> it just serves linux servers
[19:44] <Plone> looking to run windows os over linux
[19:44] <Plone> like citrix
[19:44] <ikonia> there is a cyrtix client for linux
[19:44] <Plone> right, but you need a citrix server
[19:44] <ikonia> as in from cytrix themselves
[19:45] <ikonia> not sure how dated it is now
[19:45] <Pici> ikonia: Last I looked, they were still making modern versions of the client.
[19:45] <Plone> I want a linux server that can virtualize windows os and serve up to any clients
[19:45] <Plone> primarily osx
[19:45] <Plone> citrix is expensive and requires win server with AD
[19:45] <ikonia> Pici: useful to know
[19:45]  * Plone hates AD
[19:45] <nicomachus> easy on the ENTER spam, Plone...
[19:46] <Plone> ?
[19:47] <gonzzor> I need to add some iptables rules to the nat table and I'm currently using ufw. What would be the procedure? Add them to /etc/ufw/before.rules or can I mix in iptables-persitent safely?
[19:48] <carrera> Greetings  :)
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> hey carrera
[19:50] <carrera> I have a fresh install of ubuntu mate 15.10, I can login from tty1, I can ssh in, but when I try to login from LightDM, I get "Failed to start session"
[19:50] <ikonia> carrera: you said you had fixed this earlire
[19:50] <ikonia> earlier
[19:50] <ikonia> 12:08 < carrera> ikonia, all I had to do was turn on BIOS Compatibility Module
[19:51] <ikonia> 12:08 < carrera> ikonia, you don't know what you're talking about
[19:51] <BigBlackCoffee> #/k-on/
[19:52] <carrera> ikonia, I managed to install 15.10
[19:52] <carrera> ikonia, but not with the desktop as you told me to do
[19:52] <ikonia> I didon't tell you to install anything
[19:52] <carrera> ikonia, desktop wouldn't even boot because of the nouveau drivers
[19:53] <ikonia> I asked you a question, you didn't answer, I backed away
[19:53] <carrera> ikonia, so I downloaded desktop for nothing on a slow and paid by usage line
[19:53] <ikonia> I didn't tell you to do that
[19:53] <carrera> ikonia, I'm sorry then
[19:53] <carrera> ikonia, someone here told me to do that
[19:54] <carrera> ikonia, and they told me not to use the mini.iso
[19:54] <ikonia> I don't think it's a requirement to use the mini.iso (personally) but it's up to you what you do
[19:54] <carrera> ikonia, I hadn't slept for 2 days this morning and I was answering another question completely
[19:55] <carrera> ikonia, well, someone here kind of told me off for trying to use it
[19:55] <ikonia> you where just waffling on and then rude, but thats up to you
[19:55] <carrera> ikonia, I only replied because you were condescending
[19:55] <ikonia> no, I wasn't, you didn't answer and I got bored of waiting and asking 3 times
[19:56] <carrera> ikonia, I always try to be polite
[19:56] <ikonia> thats why you took the time to send me a rude pm too
[19:56] <ikonia> either way offtopic for this channel, apologies
[19:56] <carrera> ask Mr. lotuspsychje, he knows me
[19:57] <carrera> ikonia, what's wrong with you man, you bring a point up.  Out of respect, I reply, then you say it's offtopic
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> carrera: whats going on?
[19:57] <carrera> lotuspsychje, I dunno
[19:57] <ikonia> carrera: it's my fault for referencing it, which is why I said it was off topic and apologized
[19:58] <carrera> I can login from tty1 and I can ssh in with no problems but I can NOT login from LightDM
[19:58] <Overlap> got stuck with grub2
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> carrera: graphics card chipset?
[19:58] <Overlap> spalsh image isn't changing !
[19:58] <carrera> Nvidia 860m
[19:58] <Overlap> splash*
[19:58] <carrera> oh, I installed nvidia-352-updates too
[19:59] <carrera> I x didn't even start with nouveau
[19:59] <Beamboom> join #gamingonlinux
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> carrera: gtx 860m?
[19:59] <carrera> Yes sir, GeForce GTX 860m
[19:59] <carrera> Beamboom, should I join that channel?
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> carrera: thats an optimus card mate, you need to install nvidia-optimus
[20:00] <Beamboom> Sorry my keyboard ignored my slash. Nevermind. :)
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> carrera: then enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[20:00] <DirtyCajun> if someone has a second i have a question.
[20:00] <carrera> ikonia, oh, ok  :-)
[20:00] <rduplain> TJ-: I am unable to get dist-upgrade or do-release-upgrade to log why they are unable to authenticate the packages. I'm just going to give up and install a fresh OS. Thanks for your help!
[20:01] <carrera> Beamboom, no problem mate  :)
[20:01] <DirtyCajun> is mdadm and lvm2 still the correct tools to download to recover hdd like in this instruction? https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/faq/579
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> rduplain: would be more secure way :p
[20:01] <TJ-> rduplain: check the /var/log/dist-upgrade/ or is it /var/log/release-upgrade/ directories
[20:02] <ikonia> DirtyCajun: if thats what the guide says
[20:02] <carrera> ikonia, and I wasn't rude to you in PM, I just said I'm tired of your uppity condescending attitude
[20:02] <carrera> ikonia, so please don't make me look like a rude man here
[20:02] <ikonia> carrera: please drop it
[20:02] <TJ-> rduplain: authentication problems might be caused by a new Ubuntu archive key being required for 12.04. There was a key-change I recall some time ago now
[20:02] <DirtyCajun> ikonia: it was just referring to 12.04. im using 15.10 and know lots has changed
[20:02] <carrera> ikonia, as I said, I'm only replying
[20:02] <rduplain> I was looking for an explicit error saying that, but no indication of it.
[20:02] <rduplain> I looked in those /var/log directories, too.
[20:02] <ikonia> carrera: as I said "it's offtopic, I'm sorry - please drop it"
[20:03] <ikonia> DirtyCajun: those packages remain the sam4
[20:03] <ikonia> same
[20:03] <rduplain> Nothing specific ...
[20:03] <carrera> lotuspsychje, how can I enable perf mode from the command line?
[20:03] <DirtyCajun> ok thank you. and lvm2 is part of initial install i believe but mdadm is not right?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> carrera: first you need to install nvidia driver, to boot your system
[20:04] <ikonia> DirtyCajun:  I think both are there by default now, but it's not hard to install both
[20:04] <OerHeks> man nvidia-prime
[20:04] <DirtyCajun> ill install on a VM and test. thanks for the help
[20:05] <RandomNoob> hello guys i need your help. installed ubuntu on acer aspire e15. but when im booting it says no bootable device found. while installing i created swap area. ext4 for / and 1 gb for uefi.
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: did you disable secureboot and fastboot?
[20:06] <OerHeks> carrera, if the 352 driver does not work, did you install > sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[20:07] <RandomNoob> lotuspsychje where to find that options?  i dont have them in bios
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: are you singleboot ubuntu or dualboot?
[20:07] <RandomNoob> single boot
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: they should be in your bios, as your system is uefi
[20:07] <RandomNoob> there was installed linpus i deleted and formated partitions while installing ubuntu
[20:09] <RandomNoob> yeah  i have boot mode UEFI and there is Legacy but not fastboot. secureboot is enabled. but im unable to change it.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: change to legacy
[20:09] <carrera> OerHeks, the driver works, cause LightDM comes up nicely
[20:09] <RandomNoob> save and restart?
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: RandomNoob secureboot must be disabled
[20:10] <RandomNoob> how to disable. it is gray :S
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: change to legacy
[20:10] <RandomNoob> i choosed legacy now i have gnu grub menu like terminal
[20:11] <RandomNoob> what to type?
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> boot your ubuntu usb
[20:12] <RandomNoob> i have grub on uefi partition? and now i should just rebuild it ?
[20:13] <ioria> RandomNoob, i'd reverse it ... to uefi , boot the live , and post a sudo parted -l
[20:14] <carrera> OerHeks, linux-headers-generic is already installed
[20:15] <OerHeks> oke, good check, no need to reinstall nvidia, sudo prime-switch nvidia # should update the config.
[20:16] <DirtyCajun> what exactly does postfix in mdadm do?
[20:16] <RandomNoob> guys i followed instruction. I set uped superuser password in bios and no under uefi im able to change secure boot
[20:16] <RandomNoob> whish me luck hope it runs
[20:17] <carrera> OerHeks, /etc/modprobe.d is not a file
[20:17] <carrera> OerHeks, error: no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_conf
[20:17] <nygma> can someone answer me a question about mbr and grub
[20:18] <ikonia> DirtyCajun: alert you if a raid status changes
[20:18] <ikonia> DirtyCajun: you don't need to worry about it for recovering a disk as you're trying to do
[20:18] <DirtyCajun> ohhh ok.
[20:18] <RandomNoob> maaan still not able to boot i disabled this secure boot
[20:19] <ioria> RandomNoob, did you format the /boot/efi with fat32  ? ... and it should be the first partition /dev/sda1
[20:19] <carrera> RandomNoob, I think you have to turn on your BIOS compatibility module
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> RandomNoob: fastboot off, decureboot off and legacy, then F12 boot your ubuntu usb
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> secureboot
[20:19] <carrera> RandomNoob, on American Megatrends its called CSM for Compatibility Support Module
[20:20] <django_1> hey all
[20:20] <django_1> how do screenshot on lubuntu?
[20:20] <carrera> Hi django_1
[20:21] <JeDa> django_1: [IMP SRC]
[20:21] <JeDa> er
[20:21] <JeDa> IMP PRN
[20:21] <fellipe> hi all! why does it happen? please help!! three identical 3g usb modem and only two /dev/serial/by-id ? http://pastie.org/10632715
[20:21] <RandomNoob> on legacy im getting gnu grub verion 0.97 like terminal.  i think i created uefi partition last one.
[20:22] <ioria> RandomNoob, you did  a manual partitioning , right ?
[20:22] <RandomNoob> yes
[20:22] <ioria> RandomNoob, boot the live , and post a sudo parted -l
[20:24] <RandomNoob> man now it says on my usb its not bootable disk :(
[20:24] <ioria> RandomNoob, you messed you bios ? :]
[20:25] <RandomNoob> no it said not bootable usb while i had legacy set. now i set uefi and im able to boot live
[20:25] <ioria> RandomNoob, good
[20:25] <RandomNoob> what does that command ?
[20:26] <RandomNoob> sudo parted -l
[20:26] <ioria> RandomNoob, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[20:26] <ioria> RandomNoob, it lists your partions
[20:26] <ioria> *partitions
[20:29] <RandomNoob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14012465/
[20:29] <ioria> RandomNoob, /boot/efi should be the first partition  /dev/sda1
[20:30] <ioria> RandomNoob, your first is swap
[20:30] <ioria> RandomNoob, that should be the last
[20:30] <RandomNoob> kk can i change it from live cd or need fresh install? removing partitions and creating them ?
[20:30] <ioria> RandomNoob, idk
[20:30] <RandomNoob> yeah did not knew that <3
[20:30] <ioria> RandomNoob, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:31] <Overlap> Anyone who can help me with grub ?
[20:31] <Overlap> :/
[20:31] <ioria> RandomNoob, jump to Creating an EFI System Partition
[20:32] <RandomNoob> im reading tham all :D need all the information :D
[20:33] <ioria> RandomNoob, or use Automatic Partitioning
[20:33] <jzeolla> Anybody interested in helping me debug a partman script for building 14.04?
[20:33] <django_1> anyone have any good methods for downloading youtube videos
[20:33] <django_1> just the sound
[20:33] <jzeolla> Or pointing me to where I could go..
[20:34] <RandomNoob> ioria i need to create at least 300 gb in ntfs :(
[20:34] <RandomNoob> and im unable to make it while installing :(
[20:35] <ioria> RandomNoob, leave it unallocated , and then use the live to format it
[20:36] <Bashing-om> Overlap: What is the grub issue ?
[20:37] <Overlap> I edited the /etc/default/grub
[20:37] <Overlap> GRUB_BACKGROUND="path"
[20:37] <karstensrage> how do you get your own stuff into the main apt repo?
[20:37] <Overlap> and I also changed the time for which grub menu holds from 10 sec to 30
[20:37] <TJ-> karstensrage: generally via a sync from the Debian repositories
[20:38] <karstensrage> so anyone can do it TJ- ?
[20:38] <Overlap> prob is , when I ran sudo update-grub
[20:38] <Overlap> splash image didn't change
[20:38] <Overlap> while the time changed to 30 sec
[20:38] <TJ-> karstensrage: well, the package needs to be sponsored and have a maintainer on the Debian side first
[20:38] <Overlap> :/
[20:38] <RandomNoob> ioria yes i now try fresh install and i create efi disk as sd1
[20:38] <karstensrage> oh
[20:39] <Overlap> Did you get me Bashing-om ?
[20:39] <ioria> RandomNoob, ok... please keep it in the public channel
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Overlap: So does the image ( in an acceptable format ) exist where you told grub it exist ?
[20:40] <Overlap> I believe so , as i donloaded it specifically for grub
[20:40] <Overlap> its in .xpm format
[20:41] <RandomNoob> okay
[20:41] <Overlap> Anyway how to check the compatibility of image ? Bashing-om
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Overlap: Show us ' cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit ' So we know what we ar working with .
[20:41] <Overlap> okay
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> dddddddddDdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[20:42] <Overlap> pastebinit isn't installed, so wait for a min , Bashing-om
[20:43] <Overlap> What heppened MonkeyDust ??
[20:43] <ioria> ^_^
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Overlap: K and " GRUB 2 can use PNG, JPG/JPEG and TGA images for the background. " .
[20:44] <Overlap> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14012768/        Bashing-om
[20:45] <Bashing-om> Overlap: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14012768/ .
[20:45] <Overlap> ok, let me try another image, if it works, then prob is solved
[20:45] <Guest35014> im new to backbox and ubuntu.  Any suggestions on helpful blogs/tutorials?
[20:46] <TJ-> Overlap: the path has to one that will be readable by the boot-loader; the file needs to be under /boot/grub/ or similar
[20:46] <Overlap> Guest35014, what sort of help do you want ?
[20:46] <zucz> hello! i just installed ubuntu dualBoot with Windows8 and i cant boot in Windows...i cant see grub at boot
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Overlap: Yeah " "/home/Pictures/gimp_temp.52120.xpm" "" .. .xmp not an accepted format .
[20:47] <Overlap> TJ, I gave the path, /usr/share/images/grub/afhaf.xpm
[20:47] <Overlap> it didn't work with that too . TJ, Bashing-om
[20:47] <Overlap> but let me try again.
[20:48] <TJ-> Overlap: 'xpm' isn't supported by grub. Read /etc/grub.d/00_header
[20:48] <Guest35014> well Im interested in network security.  I have read the security + course info and I have played around with some of the toolchest that came with backbox like aircrack and armitage but i feel out of my element.  I work for a software company that is only compatible with windows
[20:48] <Overlap> okay, Let me try another image, if it work, prob is solved :)
[20:48] <mcphail> Guest35014: backbox is not supported here
[20:49] <Guest35014> what is supported here?
[20:49] <mcphail> Guest35014: Ubuntu
[20:49] <mcphail> !backbox | Guest35014
[20:49] <TJ-> Overlap: "grep -A 10 'export theme' /etc/grub.d/00_header "
[20:49] <Guest35014> cool, thx
[20:50] <mcphail> Guest35014: unfortunately, we have no way of knowing what the backbox chaps have changed, so we can't support it. Sorry :)
[20:50] <srg> I'm in an Ubuntu liveCD and I'm partitioning my new SSD. In gparted, I'm getting the error: "driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but linux says it is 512 bytes". This error wont go away. I'm using GPT. Is this a problem?
[20:50] <Overlap> What would it do ? TJ
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Overlap: even thoght the example shows your /home as an acceptable path ... I have - as TJ- advises - always put my image in /boot/grub/ .
[20:51] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I think it depends on whether the grub root file-system is the same file-system as contains the path, because "is_path_readable_by_grub "$GRUB_BACKGROUND" " is checked
[20:52] <Overlap> okay, I do that , Bashing-om
[20:53] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Good to know info !
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Overlap: A good guide to setting up a custome grub with backround image docs : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen . I have followed it and is good .
[20:54] <Overlap> :) thanx Bashing-om
[20:57] <RandomNoob> guys swap partition should be logical or primary ?
[20:57] <Bashing-om> Overlap: :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays >> The default location for this folder is /boot/grub.
[20:57] <Overlap> gotcha :)
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> !swap | RandomNoob
[20:59] <RandomNoob> i know that :s but which one is better primary swap or logical. im always set it as logical
[21:00] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: I prefer to keep one primary partition as available for future expansion, so I do make up extended partition and in the extended I make up the swap as a logical partition .
[21:01] <ooko> any pussy here?
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> ooko: wrong network
[21:01] <dotpixis> ooko: try ##gofuckyourself
[21:01] <TJ-> !language | dotpixis
[21:01] <tgm4883> !ohmy
[21:01] <ooko> reallly?
[21:02] <ynix> Is there a hotkey for hibernate?
[21:02] <dotpixis> ooko: if you're looking for what you said you were, that would be the logical place to look
[21:02] <tgm4883> dotpixis: ooko enough alright?
[21:02] <ooko> any help here?
[21:03] <tgm4883> ooko: if you have a ubuntu support question, then ask
[21:04] <ooko> how much cost new windows?
[21:04] <dotpixis> !supported
[21:04] <TJ-> single or double-glazed?
[21:04] <tgm4883> ooko: that's not a support question
[21:05] <ooko> any one from microsoft?
[21:05] <dotpixis> !distros | ooko
[21:05] <TJ-> ooko: if you do not have a legitimate support question please use #ubuntu-offtopic, any further misuse you'll be jected from this channel
[21:06] <Overlap> Hey Bashing-om, I am facing one more problem, a bit annoying
[21:06] <ooko> bill gates here?
[21:06] <Overlap> Ubuntu received updates few days back
[21:06] <Overlap> and since then ,  it is behaving wierdly
[21:07] <Overlap> windows partion were shown on the launcher, they are missing now
[21:07] <Overlap> my flash drive isn't mounting
[21:07] <Overlap> i've to manually mount it
[21:07] <Overlap> launcher is set to defau;t icons.
[21:08] <Overlap> All of my icons are removed , and even if I change setting, everytime system reboots, my changes disappear
[21:09] <TJ-> Overlap: sounds like some the detection logic is broken, or else there are missing files, corruption, or out-of-disk space on some file-system
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Overlap: Windows - did ypu completely shit it down last usse or did you "hibernate" such that the hard drive is locked to windows as Windows will still have the drive as "in use" ?
[21:09] <Overlap> Windows isn't using drive, I guess
[21:09] <dotpixis> !ohmy Bashing-om
[21:09] <Overlap> it was completely shut down
[21:09] <Overlap> I am sure
[21:10] <Overlap> Auto-hide laucher (from settings) does not hide launcher
[21:11] <w9qbj>  Overlap:  devmon seems to be the answer for mounting flash drives (or any other USB device)  - worked for me.
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Overlap: Do not know but maybe " GRUB_BACKGROUND="/home/Pictures/gimp_temp.52120.xpm"
[21:11] <Overlap> what about windows partions that were displayed on the launcher
[21:12] <ernetas> Hey guys.
[21:12] <Overlap> I can't access Windows from Ubuntu
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Overlap: And GRUB_BACKGROUND=/usr/share/images/grub/Windbuchencom.tga " might be confusing the system to no end ?
[21:12] <RandomNoob> isntalled ubuntu created EFI partition as first one sda1. but still error with non bootable device found :(
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> ernetas: wlecome, what can we do for you?
[21:13] <ernetas> So I have a question. What happens on Ubuntu 14.04 to processes which are not managed by any other upstart or init.d service? Is it SIGPWR that is sent to them? And when exactly is that signal sent to them?
[21:13] <Overlap> Bashing-om, I even copied the image .tga format) to /boot/grun
[21:13] <Overlap> /boot/grub
[21:13] <Overlap> abd then gave that path to /etc/default/grub
[21:13] <ernetas> (on ps tree the only parent process to those is /sbin/init)
[21:13] <Overlap> ran sudo update-grub
[21:13] <Overlap> still not working
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Overlap: did you tell grub about the change and do the paths now agree to the same image file ?
[21:14] <Overlap> I ran sudo update-grub2
[21:14] <TJ-> Overlap: have you checked the image is actually mentioned in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[21:14] <Overlap> nope :P
[21:14] <Overlap> wait
[21:16] <RandomNoob> guys pls help me when i have set in bios uefi im able to boot liveusb.  installing ubuntu (creating efi partition as sda1) but after install im not able to boot. when im changing in bios to legacy i see grub menu as terminal. now im trying to boot liveusb while i have set in bios legacy. want to install as legacy. but it says this is not a bootable disk. what me to do ? disabling secure boot while uefi does not works.
[21:16] <TJ-> Overlap: there should be an "insmod tga" and "background_image -m stretch ..."
[21:16] <Overlap> TJ-, ###BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_deban_theme ###
[21:17] <Overlap> set menu_color_noramal=white/black TJ
[21:17] <carrera> I just installed lxdm, now I get a more meaningful error msg:  unable to launch "ubuntu-mate" X session --- "ubuntu-mate" not found;
[21:17] <TJ-> Overlap: if those entries I mention aren't there, then your configuration settings are being ignored due to them being wrong
[21:17] <Overlap> :/  ok
[21:18] <Overlap> I guess I should go through that article that Bashing-om suggested
[21:18] <linelevel> Hi, strange problem.. running `docker` says "The program 'docker' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install docker"... but apt-get says "docker is already the newest version."  -- I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Any suggestions?
[21:18] <Overlap> So going to read that :)
[21:21] <raving> Greetings, everybody. I am trying to install 14.04 on a Dell Precision T3600, and the bootloader (no matter what medium I boot the installer off of) complains that there is no suitable memory target. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what might cause this?
[21:22] <ikonia> raving: that doesn't seem like a valid error message
[21:22] <ikonia> raving: please double confirm the exact error message
[21:22] <bekks> raving: Whats the exact error message you get?
[21:22] <bekks> sorry for the repetition :)
[21:23] <raving> iknonia, "error: couldn't find suitable memory target.\nalloc magic is broken at <some address>"
[21:23] <rado> hi
[21:24] <TJ-> raving: sounds like bug 1068964
[21:24] <raving> TJ-, thank you
[21:25] <ikonia> TJ-: exceptionally qiuck bug search
[21:25] <rww> but it's from 2012 and new, so not going to be that helpful :3
[21:25] <raving> Well, at least we know the problem is in GRUB
[21:26] <rww> assuming that bug report's guess is correct
[21:27] <raving> rww, I just looked at the grub source and the error is reported in relocator.c, so it seems like it'd be a valid assumption
[21:28] <TJ-> raving: is it a UEFI or BIOS system?
[21:28] <ikonia> the grub version has taken a huge bump since 2012 though
[21:28] <raving> TJ-, UEFI
[21:28] <TJ-> raving: so grub_efi_mmap_iterate() then
[21:29] <TJ-> raving: is SecureBoot enabled?
[21:29] <raving> Well the particular function it is located in is grub_reallocator_alloc_chunk_align()
[21:29] <raving> TJ-, shouldn't be, let me double check though
[21:29] <TJ-> raving: right... I'm ahead of you ^^^
[21:30] <TJ-> raving: that call should set ctx.found, which isn't so the code path hits "if (!ctx.found) ..."
[21:30] <TJ-> raving: is it the installer boot itself that is failing?
[21:30] <nygma> Hey, if i have an external hd and want to make a partition to hold live ubuntu, should i install grub in the entire device and point that iso?
[21:30] <raving> TJ-, correct; that is, I can't bootstrap the installer
[21:31] <TJ-> raving: Try 15.10 - 14.04.x might not have enough EFI quirks code to 'know' about any T3600 weirdness
[21:31] <TJ-> raving: GRUB has changed a lot since 14.04
[21:32] <raving> TJ-, OK, we'll try 15.10, thanks for the suggestion
[21:33] <raving> BTW, I did just check to see if secureboot is on, it doesn't seem so but I'm double checking to see if it's hidden
[21:33] <RandomNoob> guys i found solution for my problem with uefi. you can check the big post from me. if you have Acer Aspire E15 and uefi secure boot does not let you boot. it says not found bootable device. Go to the bios. Set up password. after that you are able to edit uefi custom settings. go to add uefi file. and follow the file manager choose grubx64.efi. DONE. You will boot Ubuntu. now if you are afraid to forgot your bios password you can clear it.
[21:33] <TJ-> raving: It would be a long-shot - the problem seems to be the EFI memory map is correct so GRUB can't allocate
[21:34] <TJ-> RandomNoob: yes, we've dealt with that several times before
[21:34] <TJ-> RandomNoob: once you've 'trusted' the boot file you can disable the secureboot again and it'll still work
[21:34] <raving> TJ-, speaking of which, this might be a detail that may or not be worth mentioning but the system has 32GiB of RAM in it, so I'm not sure if it might try to allocate past the available address space or not
[21:34] <raving> I don't know much about either the way EFI or Grub work internally
[21:35] <TJ-> raving: it could be confusing GRUB, yes. I'll be interested in your experience with 15.10
[21:35] <raving> TJ-, we'll have to try 15.10 then, thanks for your advice
[21:36]  * w9qbj is back (gone 02:22:39)
[21:37] <rww> !away > w9qbj
[21:38] <Rexodus> 22:38 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu: Total of 1851 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1850 normal]
[21:38] <Rexodus> sry
[21:39] <regedit> hello
[21:39] <RandomNoob> TJ- I just Trusted it. Secureboot is enabled.  Now I feel not good with visual. This laptop (Acer Aspire E15) has intel hd graphics. The picture is not perfect. Like when im opening dash the transparent is not that good as on my dekstop pc with GT220 card with nvidia driver.
[21:40] <bradhe> I'm trying to use /dev/random to generate a buncha random data. Anyone have any tips/tricks on how to make it faster, it's painfully slow on my host (AWS)...
[21:40] <bradhe> Randomness doesn't have to be cryptographically secure nescessarily.
[21:40] <bradhe> (for my use case)
[21:40] <TJ-> bradhe: how much randomness do you want?
[21:40] <regedit> so TeamViewer is crap, not working so good anymore here in Kubuntu (stops updating after a few sec) What's my next best bet for remotely using my Linux computer from my Kubuntu laptop?
[21:41] <nicomachus> SSH with -X
[21:41] <rww> bradhe: use /dev/urandom instead
[21:41] <bradhe> TJ-: I'd be willing to trade off randomness for speed.
[21:41] <adeon_> vnc works too
[21:41] <regedit> nicomachus: sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that
[21:42] <bradhe> rww: Hmmm they don't come from the same source?
[21:42] <regedit> adeon_:  sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that
[21:42] <nicomachus> !ssh | regedit
[21:42] <TJ-> bradhe: "openssl rand 500" would give you 500 pseudo-randomised bytes
[21:42] <adeon_> no, just enable vnc
[21:42] <daftykins> regedit: over the internet? mistake with such a composited desktop imo
[21:42] <regedit> nicomachus: thanks, i am aware of SSH :D just not how to use it as a graphic remote operating tool
[21:42] <adeon_> run "vino-preferences" on aterminal
[21:42] <RandomNoob> guys intel hd graphics does not have any driver? at least x server? S: the picture quality is not the best :(
[21:42] <rww> bradhe: yes. urandom is significantly faster, regardless
[21:42] <bekks> adeon_: VNC is insecure when not being tunneled through SSH.
[21:42] <regedit> daftykins: what is a mistake, teamviewer?
[21:42] <Armadillos_> regedit: Look at nomachine
[21:43] <bradhe> Got it.
[21:43] <bradhe> Looks like perhaps because it doesn't have to wait for the entropy pool to refill
[21:43] <daftykins> regedit: re-read my sentence.
[21:43] <adeon_> bekks., even with encrption on ? :-/
[21:43] <ropo> how do i install sublime-text on ubuntu?
[21:43] <daftykins> version?
[21:44] <ropo> any
[21:44] <daftykins> no you need to be specific
[21:44] <bekks> adeon_: The VNC protocol is known to not implement security in a secure manner. You can safely assume to break the "vnc encryption" within seconds.
[21:44] <ropo> 3
[21:44] <daftykins> ubuntu version, ropo.
[21:44] <ropo> 14.04
[21:44] <ropo> LTS
[21:44] <regedit> daftykins: so what does that mean, "No! Thou cannot have any graphical remote computer access under buntu!" ??
[21:44] <adeon_> then vnc through ssh or the whole x window
[21:45] <rww> bradhe: yep. basically, the difference in randomness quality is irrelevant if you're not in a very-early-boot scenario where there hasn't been enough entropy made to seed the random-number generator yet
[21:45] <daftykins> regedit: forget i spoke.
[21:45] <adeon_> bekks, can you foward the whole X windows? not just a window?
[21:45] <adeon_> bekks, can you foward the whole X server? not just a window?
[21:45] <daftykins> ropo: google result #1 - http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-sublime-text-3-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/
[21:45] <w9qbj> ubottu, how do I read your private message
[21:46] <bekks> adeon_: Thats what can be done using VNC - tunneled through SSH - or by using nxclient/nxserver.
[21:46] <ropo> another question can i change the position of my Launcher (from left hand side)?
[21:46] <Overlap> no body thinks @ubottu :P
[21:46] <regedit> so uh, what can i use for graphical remote desktop access then?
[21:47] <bekks> regedit: VNC tunneled through SSH, nxclient/nxserver, ssh -X
[21:47] <DirtyCajun> if you unplugged an offline HDD and moved a sata from 1 port to another thats connected to a hdd that is part of a LVM while the pc was off would linux know the difference
[21:47] <regedit> bekks:  sounds interesting, is it hard to setup? where can i find info on that
[21:47] <bekks> regedit: Define "it" first :)
[21:47] <regedit> bekks: what you just blurted
[21:48] <bekks> regedit: I told you three options.
[21:48] <regedit> oh they are 3 different ones :D
[21:48] <regedit> how am i supposed to know
[21:48] <bekks> regedit: Most likely they are different options because they are comma-separated
[21:48] <regedit> bekks: they sound like interesting options, are they hard to setup? where can i find info on them
[21:48] <regedit> :P
[21:49] <constantine_> hi everybody
[21:49] <daftykins> hi
[21:49] <lasko> hey
[21:49] <constantine_> please helpme
[21:50] <lasko> Ask the question
[21:50] <regedit> put differently: in windows land I can download and run TeamViewer for a smooth nice graphical remote computer access experience. Does linux/ubuntu/etc have something like that yet?
[21:50] <regedit> as close as possible in ease of use
[21:50] <constantine_> my sound card realtek alc 880 and install driver
[21:50] <bekks> regedit: Whatever you can do in windows is irrelevant in here.
[21:50] <DirtyCajun> regedit.... you can use teamviewer in linux
[21:50] <DirtyCajun> lol
[21:50] <bekks> regedit: And I told you three options, which do what you asked for.
[21:51] <DirtyCajun> it works great.
[21:51] <regedit> DirtyCajun: not in my case
[21:51] <DirtyCajun> why?
[21:51] <regedit> i'd love to know
[21:51] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: I am not that familiar with Intel - so take with a grain of salt . Some Intel chip sets do not support 3d, and nowadays unity requires that the GPU have that 3d support .
[21:51] <DirtyCajun> what is not allowing it to work
[21:51] <procyon_ember> Is "nomodeset" the correct boot parameter to disable kernel mode setting?
[21:52] <nicomachus> yes procyon_ember
[21:52] <regedit> DirtyCajun: no idea. but it just stops working after a few sec. view does not update anymore, keys/mouse actions dont do anything
[21:52] <DirtyCajun> have you checked your logs ?
[21:52] <procyon_ember> Then I have a problem. I can't boot Lubuntu 15.10 desktop cd on this computer.
[21:53] <regedit> bekks: those sound like interesting options. Are they easy to setup? Where can i find tutorials/guides on getting those working as easy as TeamViewer on Windows?
[21:53] <bekks> regedit: they are so easy to setup, you could have found the three wiki articles already.
[21:54] <DirtyCajun> regedit. just so you know. i have played with 20 Remote desktop programs. NONE are the same as teamviwer
[21:54] <bekks> DirtyCajun: you played with the wrong solutions then ;)
[21:54] <regedit> DirtyCajun: also they removed the "disable remote screen" button. but mainly its just not working
[21:54] <ikonia> regedit: contact teamviewer then
[21:55] <regedit> ikonia: i'm doing that too
[21:55] <ikonia> job done then
[21:55] <regedit> well no, i need graphical remote access
[21:55] <regedit> so i come here asking for options on this fine OS
[21:55] <ikonia> regedit: and you'v ebeen given options
[21:55] <ikonia> research the options you've been given
[21:56] <DirtyCajun> bekks. name one i have tried it bby :) also they did not disable that at all... i have teamviewr open right now and looking at it current version
[21:56] <regedit> ikonia: yep, so what are you interjecting about then, if i may ask
[21:56] <procyon_ember>  /afk
[21:57] <RandomNoob> how to check that ? if it supports 3d?
[21:57] <ikonia> regedit: you've got the info - job done, you appeared to be continuing to ask the info
[21:57] <regedit> ikonia: nope, i was discussing TeamViewer with DirtyCajun
[21:57] <ikonia> regedit: ubuntu doesn't make/maintain it - so talk to teamviewer support about it
[21:58] <constantine_> please help me
[21:58] <constantine_> my sound card not working
[21:58] <DirtyCajun> i try not to be bias. there are a lot of programs that dosome of what teamviewer does. i havent found one that does EVERYTHING. and not nearly as seamless
[21:58] <regedit> ikonia: yep you've suggested that priorly, thank you
[22:00] <Overlap> constantine , which version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[22:02] <Overlap> .
[22:02] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: Not sure if this is still apt but ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f ' all lines are yes to fully support unity .
[22:02] <ssalenik> regedit: there is also xpra: http://xpra.org/ which might work for you
[22:03] <regedit> ssalenik: thanks!
[22:03] <stacks88> when running free -tm on a virtual machine i get http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yEbTkWuM so does this mean ive got 4.2gb of free memory, or is it 6 gb?
[22:04] <rww> stacks88: for the usual meaning of free, you have 6017MB
[22:04] <teward> stacks88: The total includes swap in it.  Your actual RAM total is 6017MB
[22:05] <teward> blah rww ninja'd me
[22:05] <stacks88> ah ok
[22:05] <rww> the first line is a (not generally what you want) measure of memory including cache, second line is memory without stuff that can be trivially freed up, third line is swap, fourth line is first + third
[22:05] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om no such file or directory :(
[22:06] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: K .. lemme see what I can find for a more recent test .
[22:08] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om okay im waiting :*
[22:09] <piotr_> hi
[22:10] <TJ-> Bashing-om: RandomNoob "apt-file search ..." reveals "nux-tools: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test"
[22:10] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: You are now up on 15.10 ? as of 14.04 that test was still valid .
[22:11] <TJ-> Bashing-om: RandomNoob file exists in 15.10
[22:11] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om im on 14.04
[22:12] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: Should workie .. you are using ubuntu with unity as the DE, yes ?
[22:12] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om yeah it is there i checked with file manager. am i typing wrong in terminal ?
[22:13] <RandomNoob> just installed ubuntu with default all
[22:14] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: Maybe; try as ' /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p ' .
[22:14] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om wow now it runs. it says on all yes
[22:15] <RandomNoob> but i feel that the picture is not as good as on my old pc :(  is there any drivers for intel hd graphics? for intel pentium 3825U processor
[22:15] <RandomNoob> cant find in google
[22:16] <daftykins> it's not windows, you don't install graphics drivers for intel.
[22:16] <OerHeks> intel is supported OOTB, Acer Aspire E150 with Intel HD Graphics 4400, not a racemonster, but youtube should work full screen
[22:16] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: Well, was a thought, Great though that the chip set is supported . Do not lnow what to advise about improving the display quality .
[22:17] <OerHeks> systemsettings > colour > colourprofiles
[22:19] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om on my desktop pc i had problem with ubuntu. it had like sepia effect on all the screen. like redfish.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: On that machine, might see about changing the graphic's driver . On the one present with Ontel. Intel provides the best they have and it is in the kernel . There is no other with out going to the testing route .
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Intel*
[22:23] <TJ-> RandomNoob: what did you mean by "the picture quality isn't the best" ?
[22:29] <RandomNoob> TJ like when im opening dash the transparent is not good quality it feels the shadows for window top is not good. srry for my english. It can be problem with cheap lcd screen?
[22:30] <RandomNoob> I think this is cuz of screen is cheap :S
[22:30] <OerHeks> install unity-tweak to fiddle around with those settings
[22:30] <RandomNoob> and guys is there any driver for intel hd graphics ?
[22:31] <OerHeks> that Q has been answered
[22:31] <daftykins> RandomNoob: why do you keep repeating?
[22:31] <daftykins> are you a bot?
[22:31] <TJ-> RandomNoob: what resolution is the LCD display? pastebin the output of "xrandr -q"
[22:31] <OerHeks> no, i think he is spawning the same Q in different channels
[22:31] <RandomNoob> oh sorry i just now sow his message
[22:33] <RandomNoob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14014102
[22:33] <raving> TJ-, hello again; we just tried 15.10 on the aforementioned 15.10, and the same behavior ("Couldn't find a suitable memory address")
[22:34] <raving> ... continues to occur.
[22:34] <raving> (sorry, I accidentally hit enter before I was done)
[22:34] <OerHeks> raving, run memtest86 from the grubmenu, this sounds like bad ram
[22:34] <raving> OerHeks, OK, will do
[22:35] <dexter_zod> join #ubuntu
[22:35] <dexter_zod> dklasjdlk
[22:36] <nicomachus> dexter_zod: you're already in #ubuntu...
[22:36] <dexter_zod> ikr
[22:36] <Bashing-om> RandomNoob: A thought, does the "cheap lcd screen" - monitor support hdmi ? then hook the monitor up via an HDMI cable .
[22:37] <dexter_zod> hi sonu
[22:37] <sonu_1> hi zod
[22:37] <sonu_1> http://pingturtle.com/home/post/mini-php-rc4-encryption-class
[22:38] <dexter_zod> on it
[22:38] <sonu_1> copy that
[22:38] <daftykins> you two, take it elsewhere.
[22:38] <OerHeks> dexter_zod, sonu_1 this is ubuntu support, please don't spam
[22:38] <Scotter> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 14.04.3...I keep getting an acpi probe failed error on on boot for install and try
[22:38] <dexter_zod> sry man k we going
[22:38] <RandomNoob> Bashing-om eh i dont have hdmi cable :(
[22:38] <Scotter> Anyone want to lend me a hand?
[22:39] <daftykins> Scotter: that message doesn't matter and is not the reason
[22:39] <daftykins> Scotter: what kind of system is this? try booting with nomodeset.
[22:39] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[22:40] <Scotter> thanks ubottu, I'll take a look
[22:40] <RandomNoob> guys here can be spam bot? which is sending pms to people? or is that just little kid ? saying bad things about me ?
[22:41] <nicomachus> RandomNoob: report to #freenode
[22:41] <daftykins> RandomNoob: report any abusive PMs in #ubuntu-ops
[22:41] <Scotter> I've seen this before, but only attempted to edit the boot parameters
[22:41] <k1l> RandomNoob: issues with other users or bots in here please report to #ubuntu-ops
[22:42] <Scotter> sorry, dafty...missed your message
[22:42] <RandomNoob> k1l ok thanks
[22:42] <Scotter> It's a lenovo flex 10, 64 bit...came with POS windows 8
[22:44] <mrsam96> ih
[22:44] <mrsam96> hi
[22:44] <daftykins> !pm
[22:45] <Scotter> so I've already attempted to use acpi=off
[22:45] <mrsam96> HOW CAN I INSTALL KDE FULLL> i cant install with this command (sudo apt-get install kde-full)
[22:45] <Scotter> should I try nomodeset, as you suggested?
[22:46] <k1l> mrsam96: which ubuntu are you on?
[22:46] <Scotter> 14.04.3
[22:46] <TJ-> OerHeks: I don't think memtest86+ has support for UEFI yet, so unlikely to work for raving, not according to bug 1234612 anyhow
[22:46] <mrsam96> K1l : 15.10
[22:46] <OerHeks> TJ-, ouch, good point
[22:47] <daftykins> Scotter: type of system?
[22:47] <daftykins> Scotter: to be honest it would be the quickest thing to try.
[22:47] <Scotter> It's a lenovo flex 10, 64 bit.
[22:47] <Scotter> i'll give it a try
[22:47] <Scotter> when I put in acpi=off, it gave me no error...just went to a black screen
[22:48] <daftykins> that means nothing to me without a spec link really
[22:48] <TJ-> OerHeks: if raving returns I'd suggest he tries removing 16GiB RAM if possible; I think it's a mapping issue in GRUB with the size of memory
[22:48] <k1l> mrsam96: since kde5 they splitted the kde stuff in several projects like plasma, apps, framework etc etc etc. so there is no kde-full package anymore
[22:48] <Scotter> hold up, i'll grab the specs
[22:49] <k1l> mrsam96: maybe the guys in #kubuntu can tell you what the full meta package now is named
 so with one is better to install it?
[22:50] <k1l> mrsam96: install kubuntu-desktop
[22:51] <Scotter> Intel Celeron N2810 (2.0 GHz) Dual core, 2 GB DDR3L 1066 RAM, Intel HD Graphics
[22:51] <Scotter> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ35U4904&cm_re=flex_10_lenovo-_-9SIA0AJ35U4904-_-Product
[22:51] <daftykins> Scotter: hmm probably more likely your download wasn't good or USB drive made up badly
[22:51] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to try still.
[22:52] <Scotter> k, i'll see how it goes
[22:52] <jedininjarob> guys how do i register my nick with free node?
[22:52] <k1l> !register | jedininjarob
[22:53] <mrsam96> K1l : is it stable?
[22:53] <mrsam96> K1l : is it stayble?
[22:53] <k1l> mrsam96: its stable like kde5 is now.
[22:54] <mrsam96> K1l : KDE crash alot
[22:54] <k1l> mrsam96: better ask in #kubuntu about the kde specifics. they know it better than me.
[22:54] <Scotter> nomodeset seems to have works
[22:54] <mrsam96> tnx
[22:54] <Scotter> worked*
[22:54] <Scotter> :-)
[22:55] <Scotter> will I have to enter the nomodeset parameter each time until I make a more permanent alteration?
[22:56] <nicomachus> IIRC it should stay in the config until you remove it.
[22:56] <Bashing-om> Scotter: Once you are installed, you can then install a graphic's driver .
[23:01] <doughj3> I'm following a tutorial to create a service for Ubuntu, it says to create a .conf file in /etc/init, so I've created /etc/init/myservice.conf. But when I run `sudo service myservice start`, I get an error saying: Failed to start myservice.service: Unit myservice.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
[23:01] <doughj3> The tutorial is for 14.04 and I'm on 15.10, has the directory changed? Do I need to do something after creating the .conf file in /etc/init?
[23:03] <OerHeks> !systemd
[23:07] <oIo> hi all
[23:08] <daftykins> lo
[23:09] <oIo> howcan i install flash player?
[23:09] <daftykins> apt-get install chromium-browser pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:09] <daftykins> done
[23:15] <Guest48324> So I'm wondering if anyone can help me permanently change my boot parameter to nomodeset?
[23:16] <k1l> !nomodeset | Guest48324 that names the setting to add
[23:16] <Pod15> Can I prevent a standard user downloading python files via Firefox somehow?
[23:17] <daftykins> Pod15: what's the usecase ? sounds kinda ridiculous
[23:19] <Guest48324> isn't shift supposed to get you into GNU Grub?
[23:19] <Pod15> Daftykins yeah I know, got a user that is downloading python files which am not happy about. Wondering if can stop them running them ultimately?
[23:19] <Guest48324> ugh, been so long since I've been on a linux system
[23:21] <Bashing-om> Guest48324: On a UEFI system, it is the escape key that grub looks for .
[23:22] <Guest48324> ah
[23:22] <Guest48324> thanks, Bashing-om
[23:22] <daftykins> Pod15: sorry, there is too much wrong with that query
[23:23] <Pod15> Daftykins, tell me about it!
[23:24] <Pod15> Oh well thought I'd ask, no worries
[23:34] <fellipe> hi all! why does it happen?  three identical 3g usb modem and only two /dev/serial/by-id ? http://pastie.org/10632715
[23:35] <k1l> fellipe: see usb modeswitch
[23:36] <fellipe> k1l:  I saw something about this, but, do you have any further tip?
[23:37] <k1l> https://wiki.debian.org/Huawei/E220
[23:40] <fellipe> k1l: thanks. I will take a look but I got two e220 modems work fine. But when I added the third one, one of them got absent in /dev/serial/by-id
[23:41] <fellipe> k1l: so, I will read this link to find out any clue
[23:42] <MrBassMan> x
[23:47] <drnapster> hi so i installed arch alongside my ubuntu install now when ubuntu boots i get a start job is running for dev-disk-by... once ubuntu boots it cant see swap. any ideas?
[23:47] <daftykins> did you keep just one swap? maybe you let arch format it and so it has a new UUID now.
[23:48] <daftykins> compare fstab against the UUIDs
[23:48] <drnapster> how do i check the uuid? im sure that is it
[23:48] <daftykins> sudo blkid
[23:49] <fellipe> k1l: so, I've read that, and I am using multiple modems to send sms with gammu-smsd. And... this tutorial say nothing that I did not do before, and nothing about multiple modems... any other tip?
[23:50] <drnapster> it is deffinatly different that should do it. i can just edit the fstabe and save to fix right?
[23:51] <daftykins> bit shocked you even have to ask
[23:51] <scrabcakes> My c720 running xubuntu is no longer suspending. I already previously added in the common fix found on google (changing grub file). Any suggestions?
[23:51] <drnapster> it have been about 3 years i just wanted to make sure i remembered correctly
[23:52] <daftykins> scrabcakes: chrubuntu or some such?
[23:52] <scrabcakes> daftykins: seabios
[23:52] <daftykins> that's not relevant to what i mean
[23:53] <daftykins> i'm asking what's on it
[23:53] <scrabcakes> xubuntu on seabios? it's not via crouton
[23:54] <daftykins> ok
[23:54] <drnapster> thanks
[23:57] <scrabcakes> is that what you meant or?
[23:58] <daftykins> not quite
[23:58] <scrabcakes> sorry I'm not sure what you mean then
[23:58] <daftykins> it's ok