[17:09] zequence: the packagers mailing list... where do i find it? is that at fontforge or debian? [17:12] pretty sure it is debian... but i'm struggling finding a way in their system... [17:13] i find this, but i'm lost as to what to do with it : https://packages.debian.org/sid/fontforge [17:16] https://packages.debian.org/jessie/fontforge [17:26] sakrecoer_: If in doubt, just look in the 'control' file anyway :P - https://sources.debian.net/src/fontforge/20120731.b-7/debian/control/ [17:26] https://www.debian.org/contact [17:27] thanks OvenWerks i think i found the right list: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-fonts-devel [17:28] they are listed as the maintainers on this page: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=fontforge;dist=unstable [17:30] krytarik: thanks.. hmm... unsure what the 'control' file is hehe.. [17:31] sakrecoer_: it controls the install [17:32] it is a file with the packages "meta data" [17:33] The system uses the control file to find any depends for the package for example. [17:34] It also devines the archetecture the package is built for. [17:34] *defines [17:35] thanks OvenWerks ! should i look for it on my computer or on the debian package website? [17:41] Don't worry OvenWerks, i'll try my luck on the list, its probably better if you guys focus on explaining ubuntu things to me... i don't want to steal your time and energy [17:42] sakrecoer_: the one on your computer may have ubuntu specific info. It is good to use the ubuntu specific info if there is a bug that might be ubuntu specific [17:43] i think this is a debian specific bug, they package an old version of fontforge. (not realy a bug, but i've understood thats the way call it) [18:06] hmm... fontforge ppa on launchpad is up to date, but, this is irrelevant in our case, right? [18:11] Yep. [18:17] :) [18:34] zequence: i'll see if i can make some basic video tuts during the hollidays. Perhaps it should be added to some blueprint of the documentation? so we don't end up all doing a toot for how to enable jack :D [18:34] zequence: we can also see what already exists on youtube... [19:15] sakrecoer_: There is already some work done on the format. Check the wiki [19:33] video format you mean? this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/YoutubeVideoFormat [19:35] i understand the need of a format, but it will slow the process... not everyone capable of doing a basic tutorial, is capable of following a format.. [19:39] ok... lots to be done hehe :D [19:40] Intro and outro, still none? [19:40] could be very easy... why not the booting animation? [19:41] that circle swinging arround the logo.. [19:41] outro same same but with website url... [19:43] subject frame, logo+description in ubuntufont... [19:44] anyways... zequence: i'll follow those guidlines, show you, and provide the source for subject, intro, and outro frame :) [19:52] software centre is messed no ISO for now. [20:30] sakrecoer_: In order to have a professional feel to it, we need to keep things within the same boundaries [20:31] sakrecoer_: The format is still under discussion. What we need is basically a method for making videos, and then we follow that methdo [20:31] I like the idea of the booting animation, but we should use the new logo for that [20:32] Actually, we need a label, and preferably something identifying what it is [20:32] Like, "Ubuntu Studio - Audio", and then "Pro Audio Basics - Jack" [20:35] Unfortunately, I've been busy with other things, so I'm late with the feature definition stuff. Hoping I can get something together tomorrow. Been working on it, but nothing ready yet. [20:40] sakrecoer_: The person who makes the tutorial doesn't need to be the one who does the final editing [20:40] It's not something you need to begin with anyway [22:03] zequence: begin with tutorials? i'm not planing on it. But i going to need to develope fotos during the holiday, i can start the impulse by simple recording how i do the first batch... [22:03] where is the discussion taking place? [22:04] the discussion about the format.. [22:04] last edit on that wikipage was 2013... [22:05] i'm not saying there is no need/time to discuss, but i think that page is very clear. all that is missing is the sources to be able to format those videos correctly. [22:05] and i think the material to do those sources is readymade [22:07] i read the "subject fram" as being the label identifying, such as "ubuntu studio - audio" [22:07] subject frame* [22:10] sakrecoer_: a complete video can have a header added later (and footer). Or should I say intro/extro? [22:10] yes i understand that... [22:11] but header/intro or footer/outro needs to exist first :) [22:11] i mean the actual intro outro video sequences [22:12] sakrecoer_: yes before they can be added but no not before the subject material in the middle. [22:12] yes [22:13] the subject material and the intro/outro thing need to exist in order to have a formated video [22:13] so, i'm saying, i can do one tutorial video for photography during my holliday [22:13] cool :) [22:14] but i'm also saying we basically already have the intro/outro sequence, if we use the what is in the artwork branch wisely [22:14] :) [22:14] good. [22:15] i downloaded the artwork branch, and it is hard to tell which is the latest version of the logo [22:22] or the new logo zequence cited @21:31 today [22:23] i will make my own organised mess in that artwork branch and upload to my launchpad for consultation [22:24] :) sorry I can't help with that one. [22:26] meanwhile, i'll go back to manual-tests, sorting out fontforge, and try to get people to answer those interviews :) however, as for now in present-now and a little bit out of the blue, i want to write that i really enjoy spending online time with everyone of you i've met so far! [22:27] read you later y'all! :)