[17:09] <sakrecoer_> zequence: the packagers mailing list... where do i find it? is that at fontforge or debian?
[17:12] <sakrecoer_> pretty sure it is debian... but i'm struggling finding a way in their system...
[17:13] <sakrecoer_> i find this, but i'm lost as to what to do with it : https://packages.debian.org/sid/fontforge
[17:16] <sakrecoer_> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/fontforge
[17:26] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: If in doubt, just look in the 'control' file anyway :P - https://sources.debian.net/src/fontforge/20120731.b-7/debian/control/
[17:26] <OvenWerks> https://www.debian.org/contact
[17:27] <sakrecoer_> thanks OvenWerks i think i found the right list: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-fonts-devel
[17:28] <sakrecoer_> they are listed as the maintainers on this page: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=fontforge;dist=unstable
[17:30] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: thanks.. hmm... unsure what the 'control' file is hehe..
[17:31] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: it controls the install
[17:32] <OvenWerks> it is a file with the packages "meta data"
[17:33] <OvenWerks> The system uses the control file to find any depends for the package for example.
[17:34] <OvenWerks> It also devines the archetecture the package is built for.
[17:34] <OvenWerks> *defines
[17:35] <sakrecoer_> thanks OvenWerks ! should i look for it on my computer or on the debian package website?
[17:41] <sakrecoer_> Don't worry OvenWerks, i'll try my luck on the list, its probably better if you guys focus on explaining ubuntu things to me... i don't want to steal your time and energy
[17:42] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: the one on your computer may have ubuntu specific info. It is good to use the ubuntu specific info if there is a bug that might be ubuntu specific
[17:43] <sakrecoer_> i think this is a debian specific bug, they package an old version of fontforge. (not realy a bug, but i've understood thats the way call it)
[18:06] <sakrecoer_> hmm... fontforge ppa on launchpad is up to date, but, this is irrelevant in our case, right?
[18:11] <krytarik> Yep.
[18:17] <sakrecoer_> :)
[18:34] <sakrecoer_> zequence: i'll see if i can make some basic video tuts during the hollidays. Perhaps it should be added to some blueprint of the documentation? so we don't end up all doing a toot for how to enable jack :D
[18:34] <sakrecoer_> zequence: we can also see what already exists on youtube...
[19:15] <zequence> sakrecoer_: There is already some work done on the format. Check the wiki
[19:33] <sakrecoer_> video format you mean? this page?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/YoutubeVideoFormat
[19:35] <sakrecoer_> i understand the need of a format, but it will slow the process... not everyone capable of doing a basic tutorial, is capable of following a format..
[19:39] <sakrecoer_> ok... lots to be done hehe :D
[19:40] <sakrecoer_> Intro and outro, still none?
[19:40] <sakrecoer_> could be very easy... why not the booting animation? 
[19:41] <sakrecoer_> that circle swinging arround the logo..
[19:41] <sakrecoer_> outro same same but with website url...
[19:43] <sakrecoer_> subject frame, logo+description in ubuntufont...
[19:44] <sakrecoer_> anyways... zequence: i'll follow those guidlines, show you, and provide the source for subject, intro, and outro frame :)
[19:52] <OvenWerks> software centre is messed no ISO for now.
[20:30] <zequence> sakrecoer_: In order to have a professional feel to it, we need to keep things within the same boundaries
[20:31] <zequence> sakrecoer_: The format is still under discussion. What we need is basically a method for making videos, and then we follow that methdo
[20:31] <zequence> I like the idea of the booting animation, but we should use the new logo for that
[20:32] <zequence> Actually, we need a label, and preferably something identifying what it is
[20:32] <zequence> Like, "Ubuntu Studio - Audio", and then "Pro Audio Basics - Jack"
[20:35] <zequence> Unfortunately, I've been busy with other things, so I'm late with the feature definition stuff. Hoping I can get something together tomorrow. Been working on it, but nothing ready yet.
[20:40] <zequence> sakrecoer_: The person who makes the tutorial doesn't need to be the one who does the final editing
[20:40] <zequence> It's not something you need to begin with anyway
[22:03] <sakrecoer_> zequence: begin with tutorials? i'm not planing on it. But i going to need to develope fotos during the holiday, i can start the impulse by simple recording how i do the first batch...
[22:03] <sakrecoer_> where is the discussion taking place?
[22:04] <sakrecoer_> the discussion about the format..
[22:04] <sakrecoer_> last edit on that wikipage was 2013...
[22:05] <sakrecoer_> i'm not saying there is no need/time to discuss, but i think that page is very clear. all that is missing is the sources to be able to format those videos correctly.
[22:05] <sakrecoer_> and i think the material to do those sources is readymade
[22:07] <sakrecoer_> i read the "subject fram" as being the label identifying, such as "ubuntu studio - audio"
[22:07] <sakrecoer_> subject frame*
[22:10] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: a complete video can have a header added later (and footer). Or should I say intro/extro?
[22:10] <sakrecoer_> yes i understand that...
[22:11] <sakrecoer_> but header/intro or footer/outro needs to exist first :)
[22:11] <sakrecoer_> i mean the actual intro outro video sequences
[22:12] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: yes before they can be added but no not before the subject material in the middle.
[22:12] <sakrecoer_> yes
[22:13] <sakrecoer_> the subject material and the intro/outro thing need to exist in order to have a formated video
[22:13] <sakrecoer_> so, i'm saying, i can do one tutorial video for photography during my holliday
[22:13] <OvenWerks> cool :)
[22:14] <sakrecoer_> but i'm also saying we basically already have the intro/outro sequence, if we use the what is in the artwork branch wisely
[22:14] <sakrecoer_> :)
[22:14] <OvenWerks> good.
[22:15] <sakrecoer_> i downloaded the artwork branch, and it is hard to tell which is the latest version of the logo
[22:22] <sakrecoer_> or the new logo zequence cited @21:31 today
[22:23] <sakrecoer_> i will make my own organised mess in that artwork branch and upload to my launchpad for consultation
[22:24] <OvenWerks> :) sorry I can't help with that one.
[22:26] <sakrecoer_> meanwhile, i'll go back to manual-tests, sorting out fontforge, and try to get people to answer those interviews :) however, as for now in present-now and a little bit out of the blue, i want to write that i really enjoy spending online time with everyone of you i've met so far!
[22:27] <sakrecoer_> read you later y'all! :)