[06:36] <xubuntu65d> hi to the room! i will assistance with a problem im facing
[06:37] <slidinghorn> xubuntu65d: go ahead and ask your question with as much detail (commands tried, error messages - in a pastebin if more than one line, etc.) as possible, and do try to keep it to one post :)
[06:37] <slidinghorn> if someone knows how to help, they'll respond :)
[06:41] <xubuntu65d> when im trying to update the softwar sudo apt-get upgrade" command and all i get are "HIt" and "Ign" while the repos are loading
[06:42] <xubuntu65d> is there  a way to reset my repos list?
[06:43] <xubuntu65d> i tried changing the server through software sources but it was the same thing
[06:45] <slidinghorn> xubuntu65d: do you mean sudo apt-get update  ?
[06:45] <xubuntu65d> yes
[06:50] <xubuntu65d> http://pastebin.com/7AD1wac8
[06:50] <xubuntu65d> any ideas?
[06:50] <slidinghorn> xubuntu65d: That is normal behavior....basically what it's saying -  "Hit"  means the timestamps on the package list say there aren't any changes from last time.  "Ign" means there were no changes in the pdiff index, and the list will be ignored this time.  "Get" means it's receiving an updated index, and you'll likely have some package(s) to upgrade
[06:51] <xubuntu65d> so everything seems ok?
[06:52] <xubuntu65d> im relatively new to all this.. this is why im asking
[06:52] <slidinghorn> xubuntu65d: so far...after you've run  sudo apt-get update      you can then run   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        to upgrade any necessary packages
[06:53] <slidinghorn> no worries, we're all beginners at some point :)
[06:54] <xubuntu65d> thanks!
[17:59] <Anonaly_> Hi there, I am using Xubuntu 14.04, I have noticed that there is a menu item which is related to a program that no longer exists.
[18:00] <Anonaly_> I have tried using the menu editor   menulibre, to remove it, however menulibre does not show it (so I can't remove it)
[18:00] <Anonaly_> its very annoying
[18:20] <retrojeff> in a terminal check /home/<youraccount>/.local/share/applications/
[18:21] <retrojeff> look see if the program has a .desktop file in this folder
[18:22] <retrojeff> you could also check /home/<youraccount>/.config/menus/applications-merged
[18:22] <retrojeff> if its not found here you will need sudo or root access to remove it from the system
[18:24] <retrojeff> oh there is a 3rd place to check /home/<youraccount>/.local/share/desktop-directories/
[18:25] <retrojeff> I seem to have alot of wine related files in these 3 folders
[18:39] <Anonaly_> hi retrojeff
[18:42] <Anonaly_> ok I will try that
[18:45] <Anonaly_> the first one worked :)
[18:45] <Anonaly_> thanks
[18:55] <retrojeff> good to know
[18:58] <Anonaly_> i suppose while your here I'll ask another question retrojeff :)
[18:58] <Anonaly_> my desktop wallpaper is stuck,
[18:58] <retrojeff> ??
[18:58] <Anonaly_> I try and change the picture but it will not change
[18:58] <Anonaly_> yes I know it seems like a newb question,
[18:58] <retrojeff> not sure how to reproduce that
[18:59] <Anonaly_> but it is as if the settings file is in read only
[18:59] <retrojeff> hold on
[18:59] <Anonaly_> I will try again and verify
[18:59] <retrojeff> strace might shed some light on this
[18:59] <Anonaly_> yeah, I just replicated it myself
[19:00] <retrojeff> its not a bug its something on your end
[19:00] <Anonaly_> double clicking on the wallpapers in the desktop settings section does not change the wallpaper
[19:00] <retrojeff> like permissions like you said
[19:00] <Anonaly_> nor does selecting it and hitting back
[19:00] <Anonaly_> yes
[19:00] <retrojeff> slow down let me strace and check
[19:00] <Anonaly_> makes sense
[19:01] <retrojeff> try this for me hold ALT and press F2 to get the application launch
[19:02] <Anonaly_> ok
[19:02] <retrojeff> put in xfce4-settings-editor
[19:02] <retrojeff> press enter
[19:02] <Anonaly_> ok
[19:02] <retrojeff> look for xfwm4-desktop
[19:02] <Anonaly_> got it
[19:02] <retrojeff> you might see backdrop
[19:02] <retrojeff> with a down facing arrow
[19:03] <Anonaly_> ij
[19:03] <Anonaly_> opk
[19:03] <retrojeff> and screen0 ?
[19:03] <Anonaly_>  (ok)
[19:03] <retrojeff> with a whole listing of monitors
[19:03] <Anonaly_> ok
[19:04] <retrojeff> I guess check monitor0
[19:04] <Anonaly_> change it here ?
[19:04] <retrojeff> look for image-path
[19:04] <retrojeff> should say type "String"
[19:05] <Anonaly_> i've got last-image
[19:05] <retrojeff> try changing the image-path to the image you want logout and back in
[19:05] <Anonaly_> alright I will try this
[19:05] <retrojeff> I can screenshot mine to show you
[19:06] <retrojeff> http://i.imgur.com/tzACqmc.png
[19:06] <retrojeff> should be something like this but with your image and not mine
[19:07] <Anonaly_> no I found it thats ok
[19:07] <retrojeff> did it change?
[19:07] <retrojeff> or need to logout and login again
[19:08] <Anonaly_> I haven't tried yet, I guess I could. but that would mean I have to shut down alot of stuff
[19:08] <retrojeff> I know that feeling
[19:08] <Anonaly_> I have a VM running :(
[19:08] <retrojeff> having lots of things open and power goes out
[19:08] <Anonaly_> actually I never changed anything there yet
[19:08] <retrojeff> you screem fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[19:09] <Anonaly_> yea
[19:09] <Anonaly_> retrojeff, do you think that if I chagned the setting in xfce4-settings-editor, it would allow me to change the setting in the main desktop settings section ?
[19:10] <retrojeff> I have no idea
[19:10] <retrojeff> will just need to try and find out
[19:10] <retrojeff> if you change it in the editor and close the editor and open it again
[19:11] <retrojeff> and the setting did not stick
[19:11] <retrojeff> we can troubleshoot further
[19:11] <retrojeff> if that was the case I think all your settings would be screwed
[19:11] <retrojeff> and not just your wallpaper
[19:17] <Anonaly_> retrojeff, there has to be a way to reset the desktop wallpaper program
[19:17] <retrojeff> there should be
[19:17] <retrojeff> I am not aware of any
[19:17] <retrojeff> maybe just a simple logout and login will fix it
[19:17] <Anonaly_> xfdesktop
[19:17] <Anonaly_> pkill xfdesktop
[19:17] <retrojeff> maybe your session got screwed
[19:18] <retrojeff> you might loose open windows
[19:18] <Anonaly_> oh there we go
[19:18] <Anonaly_> xfdesktop was not running
[19:18] <retrojeff> oh?
[19:18] <retrojeff> and you fixed it yourself
[19:18] <Anonaly_> fixed
[19:18] <Anonaly_> yerp
[19:18] <retrojeff> have a pat on the back
[19:18] <Anonaly_> yep
[19:18] <Anonaly_> thanks
[19:18] <Anonaly_> pretty simple
[19:19] <retrojeff> yes a logout and login would also have fixed that
[19:19] <retrojeff> seems odd you did not know it was not running
[19:20] <retrojeff> unless it segfaulted and you quickly said not to restart it
[19:20] <Anonaly_> yeah
[19:20] <Anonaly_> it had my old wallpaper on there, and xfdesktop did not appear to be running,
[19:21] <Anonaly_> I think what happened was that Nautilus changed the wallpaper, and nautilus is a gnome program,
[19:21] <Anonaly_> anyways, I ran pkill xfdesktop, did nothing
[19:22] <Anonaly_> sudo pkill xfdesktop did nothing
[19:22] <Anonaly_> so I just ran xfdesktop and the wallpaper changed to my selected one,
[19:22] <Anonaly_> and my icons came back
[19:22] <Anonaly_> (icons where gone)
[19:23] <Anonaly_> retrojeff, strange thing is that this wasn't something that a simple reset would fix,
[19:23] <Anonaly_> as my computer is a laptop, and I have reset it many times
[19:23] <Anonaly_> I have had this problem for months
[19:23] <Anonaly_> anyways problem solved thanks for the help too
[19:29] <retrojeff> still does not really say why your xfdesktop was not running
[19:29] <retrojeff> if it was not running what was
[19:29] <retrojeff> or why did it crash
[19:30] <retrojeff> incase there is a bug in xfdesktop that should be reported
[19:30] <retrojeff> there are a billion bugs I wish to report in xfwm4 just too lazy to report them
[19:31] <retrojeff> I should find out what window manager mate uses
[19:31] <Anonaly_> thats why I am thinking Nautilus,
[19:32] <retrojeff> ok so you think Nautilus tried to kill your xfdesktop?
[19:32] <Anonaly_> as I remember before I used to run it with the --no-desktop option, because it did something with the desktop in the gnome enviro
[19:32] <Anonaly_> yes
[19:32] <Anonaly_> it used to all the time
[19:32] <Anonaly_> (ubuntu 10.04)
[19:32] <retrojeff> I am starting to like thunar
[19:33] <retrojeff> thunar actually is more stable
[19:33] <retrojeff> nautilus just turned ugly
[19:33] <Anonaly_> yeah Thunar is good
[19:33] <retrojeff> gnome-terminal wont even start for me
[19:34] <Anonaly_> thunar you can make custom actions
[19:34] <retrojeff> if I could get my xfce-panel to show indicators I would be alot happier
[19:34] <retrojeff> yes thunar is good
[19:34] <Anonaly_> I still use Nautilus however,
[19:34] <retrojeff> for what reasons?
[19:35] <Anonaly_> you can chanve the icons of the folders
[19:35] <Anonaly_> (change)
[19:35] <retrojeff> and you can not in thunar?
[19:35] <Anonaly_> no
[19:35] <retrojeff> mine changed in thunar
[19:35] <retrojeff> when I set the theme
[19:35] <Anonaly_> oh yeah,
[19:35] <retrojeff> hold on
[19:36] <retrojeff> I am running Xenial 16.04 LTS so I have thunar version 1.6.10
[19:36] <Anonaly_> ah
[19:37] <Anonaly_> 1.6.3
[19:37] <retrojeff> http://i.imgur.com/7MSaW0r.png
[19:37] <retrojeff> look at my screenshot
[19:38] <retrojeff> I am using windows 10 icons
[19:38] <Anonaly_> yeah I can change those xfce appearance settings too
[19:38] <Anonaly_> I will show you my screenshot
[19:39] <retrojeff> my style is set to greybird
[19:39] <retrojeff> windows 10 style in xfce looks like garbage
[19:39] <retrojeff> no shadows in gtk applications
[19:39] <retrojeff> is a big turnoff
[19:40] <retrojeff> I think that has something todo with window manager tweaks
[19:40] <retrojeff> and compositing
[19:41] <Anonaly_> one sec
[19:41] <Anonaly_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_-_15-12-15_-_11_40_48_AM-srIfB5Sc.png
[19:41] <Anonaly_> (showing off)
[19:42] <retrojeff> is that
[19:42] <retrojeff> ummmmmmmm
[19:42] <retrojeff> conky
[19:42] <retrojeff> on the right side of your screen
[19:43] <Anonaly> retrojeff, hey not sure what happened there
[19:44] <Anonaly> yeah its screenlets
[19:44] <Anonaly> addon for xfce
[19:44] <retrojeff> check my conky
[19:44] <retrojeff> http://i.imgur.com/9l4FK4P.jpg
[19:44] <Anonaly> I also use compiz-fusion 0.8.8
[19:44] <Anonaly> works nice
[19:44] <retrojeff> excuse my windows 3.1 wallpaper\
[19:45] <Anonaly> nice
[19:45] <retrojeff> I did like compiz back in ubuntu 10.04
[19:46] <Anonaly> yeah it still works
[19:46] <Anonaly> you have to compile 0.8.8 manually however
[19:46] <Anonaly> its a bit time consuming but there is a way to do it
[19:46] <Anonaly> and- if you have the nvidia drivers, there is a bug
[19:46] <retrojeff> I need to get my conky to work with my wallpaper
[19:46] <retrojeff> like you have
[19:46] <retrojeff> a solid background is ugly
[19:46] <Anonaly> (which is why I am using the ati open source driver)
[19:47] <Anonaly> now that I have my new ati card
[19:47] <retrojeff> oh I have nVidia
[19:47] <Anonaly> yeah then you would need compiz 0.9.x which is broken and left for dead
[19:47] <retrojeff> nVidia GTX 660
[19:47] <Anonaly> wow
[19:48] <retrojeff> which star wars is that on your desktop?
[19:48] <Anonaly> yeah I just  bought a AMD r9 2gb ram
[19:48] <Anonaly> retrojeff, that is not star wars heh
[19:48] <retrojeff> is that episode 1 phantom
[19:49] <Anonaly> no that is a real picture taken in the 60's
[19:49] <Anonaly> its a deep subject
[19:49] <Anonaly> https://vimeo.com/4873383
[19:49] <retrojeff> I am a trekkie anyways
[19:50] <Anonaly> yeah I am a conspiracy guy
[19:50] <retrojeff> capt picard capt sisko capt janeway
[19:51] <retrojeff> glad I could be of some help to you
[19:52] <retrojeff> now I need to shave eat and get on with my day
[19:53] <retrojeff> its a funny world.... techies help non techies but techies tend to tell other techies to read the manual
[22:57] <ikonia> csop
[22:57] <ikonia> oops
[22:57] <ikonia> sorry
[23:01] <knome> hello ikonia