[00:10] <cjwatson> mwhudson: I made a start on git-build-recipe a while back, but it's not in a workable state yet ...
[00:11] <cjwatson> (with the intention of presenting as close to the same interface as possible, unlike gbp)
[00:36] <mwhudson> cjwatson: nice
[04:53] <lifeless> cjwatson: bzr-git + bzr-recipe might work:)
[15:30] <clivejo> I use a password manager to log into Ubuntu One, but it keeps denying access saying Im a bot.  Does it detect how fast the password is typed into the form?
[15:32] <dobey> the form has hidden data in the form submission to prevent bot spam, so your password manager extension is probably submitting the form without that extra data
[15:32] <clivejo> its the same form
[15:33] <clivejo> just the browser plugin inserts the username and password
[15:33] <clivejo> Launchpad is the only site I have issues with
[15:35] <clivejo> even if I manually "copy and paste" the password, it does it
[15:37] <dobey> you probably have another extension which is breaking the form then
[15:37] <dobey> the internal pw manager in both chromium and firefox work fine for me on signing into u1. if you have noscript or some other similar extension, it's likely breaking the form.
[15:38] <dobey> try disabling some such extensions
[19:34] <caraka> An observation as opposed to a complaint - Launchpad is moving slower than mollasses at the moment. 45 minutes it sat at "pending build in 10 min" and now the 30 minute build has been going for 20 minutes but still has 47 minutes to go?
[19:38] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/builders
[19:45] <dobey> caraka: i guess you're complaining about arm64 builds?
[19:46] <caraka> I'm not really complaining, but all the builds are slow - amd64 i386 armhf
[19:46] <caraka> just wonderng if anything was up. they are building after all, I've simply never seen it build so slowly
[19:46] <dobey> looks like half the virtualized builders are offline
[19:47] <dobey> so if this is in a personal PPA, then that's probably why
[19:47] <caraka> fair enough. a bit of resource squeeze today
[19:47] <caraka> it is a personal PPA, and I'm not in any hurry
[19:48] <caraka> but yeah - the arm build which is always slow say complete in 9 hours, lol
[19:50] <caraka> and thanks for that link dobey - I've never seen that page before
[19:51] <teward> dobey: so the PPA builders are down then for arm?  Not the repo builders?
[19:51] <dobey> teward: yes, the non-virtualized builders for the archive are all running, just busy (you can see on the builders page)
[19:52] <teward> well, I can't see, because my phone is derp with loading the page
[19:52] <dobey> i'm not sure why the lcy01 virt builders are all down
[19:52] <teward> hence the question :)
[19:53] <caraka> The summary:  176 available build machines, 47 disabled and 67 building of a total of 223 registered.
[19:54] <dobey> teward: get an ubuntu phone ;)
[19:54] <teward> dobey: E: No Money
[19:54] <teward> dobey: unless you've offered to send me one from the US markets for zero cost?  :P
[19:55] <teward> (the load issue is the wifi, not the phone)
[19:55] <dobey> there are no us market phones yet :P
[19:55] <teward> then i won't be able to get an Ubuntu phone :)
[19:55] <dobey> do you have a nexus 4?
[19:56] <caraka> I have been tempted to buy one from the Chinese market, tbh
[19:56] <teward> dobey: unfortunately not
[19:56] <caraka> I want one. and the dual sim slot for travel
[19:56] <dobey> i run it on my nexus 5, but ubuntu on a nexus 5 isn't for everyone
[19:56] <teward> dobey: tempted to but work keeps giving me iphones
[19:56] <teward> so meh
[19:56] <teward> still doesn't fix the wifi problem here :P
[19:57] <teward> in any case, thanks for the response, guess I'll hold off on uploads to my arm-enabled PPAs for a while
[19:58] <caraka> teward: the time to completion of my arm builds has been dropping like a rock as we talked. maybe the sqeeze is over
[19:58] <dobey> teward: eh, holding off isn't going to get them built any sooner :P
[20:00] <teward> dobey: no, but it means there's 6 less packages in the build queue
[20:01] <teward> got a ZNC upload to the ZNC PPA today, thanks to Debian fixing the Lintian issue I brought up :p
[20:01] <teward> (the issue in the znc package, not Lintian itself)
[20:21] <ki7mt> Hello All, I need to make PPA private for developer testing only, is this possible without it being a commercial type PPA?
[20:24] <dobey> no it requires a commerical license to do that
[20:24] <dobey> is it not for an open source project?
[20:26] <ki7mt> The app source code is open source, we're just having some issues with users not understanding what non released / development builds are v.s. supported production builds.
[20:28] <ki7mt> I can disable the PPA for the time being, that will solve the problem for sure but was just checking to see if there were alternative methods.
[20:29] <teward> developer testing as in test building, right?
[20:30] <teward> oop i should've said nothing :)
[20:30]  * teward goes back to the shadows
[20:35] <dobey> ki7mt: it won't solve the problem
[20:36] <dobey> ki7mt: the right way to solve the problem is to have CI such that all commits are well tested and do not create situations where things break.
[20:38] <ki7mt> dobey, :-) .. that part I don't have much control over. We already have a Released Version PPA, this particular PPA was for experimental testing anyway.
[20:39] <dobey> then the best you can do is name it something that indicates its possible instability, and state that it's unstable in the PPA description
[20:42] <ki7mt> Yes, agreed, that's what I've done. I can use pbuilder / sbuild or whatever to test packaging locally for now. Thanks for the info.