| daftykins | i'm being asked what EGL dev libs are needed to compile software that depends on it - and whether mesa is required | 00:07 |
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| daftykins | or whether mesa is the only choice o0 | 00:07 |
| slidinghorn | aw man, i missed fun stuff? Dang job...hows everyones night so far? | 00:09 |
| TJ- | daftykins: there's some mesa-egl libs | 00:13 |
| TJ- | libegl1-mesa | 00:13 |
| TJ- | so for building against it I'd guess libegl1-mesa-dev | 00:14 |
| daftykins | yeah he reckons they're the ones now, is concerned their going on might break VDPAU with nvidia though :D | 00:15 |
| daftykins | TJ-: thanks :> | 00:15 |
| TJ- | well nvidia's implementation is prorietary | 00:15 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: IRT ana_ " ii linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal " But with all trusty kernels installed . " iU " for standards > care advised . | 00:41 |
| daftykins | TJ-: perhaps ana doesn't have pastebinit installed? could we just go ahead with a dpkg -r <headers package> or are you worried sda6 may be the true root partition and it'd make it moot? | 00:42 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: good spot! looks like before this inodes trouble someone was trying to apply an older HWE | 00:42 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Been bit a couple of times .. I look now before I leap . | 00:43 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:43 |
| daftykins | all the HWE methods are still messy imo, be great if there was a tool that handled it | 00:44 |
| TJ- | daftykins: I think sda3 might be /boot/ | 00:44 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 00:44 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: what do the () do on that cat command? just enclosing what is set to the pastebin? | 00:45 |
| daftykins | at 14GB? :O | 00:45 |
| daftykins | yeah it's encapsulation of commands i think, i've seen TJ- write multiple then they both get performed :> | 00:45 |
| nicomachus | ah cool. | 00:46 |
| daftykins | in my head i think of it as the fish pastebin! :D | 00:46 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: yes, it's a subshell who's results are delivered to pastebinit via a file-descriptor; as far as pastebinit is concerned it is actually opening a file the same as if it had /var/log/some.log | 00:46 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: I use it that way rather than pipes because the command being first makes it clear to the user what we're expecting them to do | 00:46 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: plus it's easy to run multiple commands in the one pastebin result | 00:46 |
| daftykins | re: ana's latest, i think we're good to go | 00:48 |
| daftykins | it's a dualboot | 00:48 |
| TJ- | yes but why is sda3 and sda6 both mounted to / - one is overlaying/obscuring the other | 00:50 |
| TJ- | the order and size suggests sda3 is supposed to be /boot/ | 00:51 |
| daftykins | hang on first time we got - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041056/ | 00:51 |
| daftykins | i don't know why the inode one is wonky but i think it's ok | 00:52 |
| TJ- | Oh, so sda3 is / and sda6 is /home/ ? | 00:52 |
| TJ- | how the heck has that got messed up? | 00:52 |
| daftykins | the df -i paste is confusing :D | 00:53 |
| daftykins | huzzah a confirming paste of mounts at last | 00:53 |
| TJ- | if only 319M has been used on /home/ what the heck is installed to use up 12G on the root fs? | 00:55 |
| nicomachus | manually sticking stuff that should be in /home/ into /? | 00:56 |
| nicomachus | Documents, Music, etc | 00:57 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:57 |
| TJ- | possibly, or something like a bittorrent client storing stuff under /var/ | 00:57 |
| daftykins | i think making some inode breathing room will help for starters | 00:58 |
| daftykins | though i think the utopic HWE is a mistake now | 00:58 |
| TJ- | definitely | 00:58 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: IRT ana_ / been my experience one wants to pull the image files prior to purging the headers (??) . | 00:59 |
| daftykins | mmm i guess we'll hear about that one very shortly XD | 01:00 |
| TJ- | you could give the command as in ... remove linux-{image,headers}-3.3.13.0-{33,34,35,36,37}-generic or whatever the ABI numbers are | 01:00 |
| Tarminquay | How much faster is Xubuntu vs Xubuntu MATE? | 01:01 |
| Tarminquay | Only noticeable on archaic hardware? | 01:01 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:02 |
| daftykins | TJ-: sounds good, far better than what i would have done | 01:03 |
| daftykins | i think i'm going to head off actually, i'm in a zombie state right now - sleep required | 01:03 |
| TJ- | it can be hairy ensuring multiple expansions will generate the correct set; I play with it using 'echo ...' | 01:03 |
| TJ- | same here, night all | 01:03 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:04 |
| Tarminquay | I would prefer if possible purchasing from Amazon. | 01:14 |
| Tarminquay | I prefer doing business with them because they give no-hassle returns. | 01:15 |
| Tarminquay | Wrong chan | 01:15 |
| daftykins | you're damn right | 01:15 |
| Tarminquay | LOOL. | 01:15 |
| Tarminquay | Somebody shirked their duty and failed to remove that tack. | 01:16 |
| daftykins | it's actually you who's butthurt, because you couldn't get what you want here despite being given lots of free off topic responses | 01:16 |
| daftykins | so i suggest you discover that you are entitled to nothing on this network - and be thankful for what assistance you did receive | 01:17 |
| daftykins | growing up a fair amount would also do wonders | 01:18 |
| slidinghorn | + a lot...definitely more than 1 | 01:20 |
| slidinghorn | I really need to brush up on vms, apparently. Lots of questions involve them | 03:04 |
| nicomachus | I use one at work to tool around with ubuntu, but don't have a ton of experience with them. | 03:06 |
| nicomachus | I set up a xenial VM last week. that was fun. | 03:06 |
| nicomachus | just got a... pleasant pm. https://imgur.com/9pn2GPs | 03:06 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: ^^ a task for #ubuntu-ops ? | 03:16 |
| nicomachus | yea I sent them that screenshot. he's already logged off, and I don't see him in any of the user lists, but it's been reported. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 03:16 |
| nicomachus | IP is in Amsterdam, so maybe he's just cold and bitter. | 03:18 |
| Bashing-om | some people, if they are not happy .. do what they can to make sure no one else is happy . | 03:20 |
| nicomachus | spose so. | 03:20 |
| Tarminquay | http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-i3-4010U-Barebones-Thickness-GB-BXi3H-4010/dp/B00I05NH9S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1450235662&sr=8-5&keywords=gigabyte+nuc#customerReviews | 03:22 |
| Tarminquay | "Get the best, Cry Once" | 03:22 |
| Tarminquay | Looks like everyone should have at least one of these. | 03:22 |
| Tarminquay | I'm placing my order for the i3 5010U. | 03:22 |
| Tarminquay | I'm gearing it up with Ubuntu MATE for the perfect compromise between desktop elegance and responsiveness. | 03:23 |
| Bashing-om | Tarminquay: ^ then you best read up on a core install and xfce for the DE . | 03:24 |
| Tarminquay | Why? | 03:24 |
| Bashing-om | desktop elegance and responsiveness. // You can have it your way . | 03:24 |
| Tarminquay | XFCE isn't as nice as MATE. | 03:25 |
| Tarminquay | the i3 with plenty of ram can comfortably handle MATE. | 03:25 |
| Tarminquay | What is a core install? | 03:25 |
| Bashing-om | Tarminquay: Install a kernel and start building . | 03:27 |
| Tarminquay | That's ridiculous. | 03:27 |
| nicomachus | Bashing-om: are you following this issue with chull? | 03:27 |
| Tarminquay | The MATE version of Ubuntu is all I need. | 03:27 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: Yeah some what . But I am not familiar with the app . | 03:28 |
| nicomachus | it's just a dock... but she says she removed it, got an error saying it wasn't installed, and then the sidebar icons were removed. | 03:29 |
| OerHeks | .. and it was not installed at all :-D | 03:29 |
| OerHeks | strange story | 03:29 |
| Bashing-om | Tarminquay: Grest . Good 'nuff is good 'nuf .. but you did say performance ! | 03:29 |
| Bashing-om | I find it real hard to use something that is not installed . | 03:30 |
| nicomachus | cue twilight zone theme | 03:32 |
| Tarminquay | Bashing-om: Ubuntu MATE is good enough for me. | 03:32 |
| nicomachus | pro-tip: realtek wifi drivers + ubuntu != happiness | 03:36 |
| Tarminquay | You think that Gigabyte box is going to be troublesome with Ubuntu? | 03:37 |
| Tarminquay | Gigabit LAN (Realtek RTL8111G) | 03:37 |
| Tarminquay | Here's the card. | 03:37 |
| nicomachus | idk, does it use realtek drivers for wifi? because my wifi dongle does and I'd throw it in the trash if I could | 03:37 |
| nicomachus | oh I haven't heard about issues with that one. rtl8188 and rtl8192 are the bad ones. | 03:37 |
| Tarminquay | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 | 03:38 |
| Tarminquay | Issues back in 2008. | 03:38 |
| Tarminquay | It's a pretty standard product, nicomachus, this Gigabyte i3. | 03:39 |
| Tarminquay | I don't see why a mainstream distro like Ubuntu would have any issues with the components. | 03:39 |
| Tarminquay | If it has any issues the developers need to get on them ASAP because this is not an obscure product. | 03:39 |
| Tarminquay | It's a top selle.r | 03:39 |
| nicomachus | chull is starting to sound very, very broken. | 03:57 |
| nicomachus | ok, maybe my brain is broken. | 03:58 |
| OerHeks | my wallet is broken :-( | 03:58 |
| OerHeks | lost 2 dimes today | 03:59 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: maybe is broken, but you are not . so far no fault with your logic . | 03:59 |
| Tarminquay | Hi guys. | 04:32 |
| Tarminquay | Any hardware talk in here? | 04:32 |
| Tarminquay | I'm a Ubuntu MATE user.. | 04:32 |
| Tarminquay | Wouldn't use anything else. | 04:33 |
| Tarminquay | http://www.itxcanada.com/index.php?p=product&id=1373&parent=129 | 04:33 |
| Tarminquay | http://www.ncix.com/detail/zotac-zbox-ci520nano-p-u-core-i3-4020y-4gb-9a-105765-1241.htm | 04:33 |
| Tarminquay | Which box do you like better and why? | 04:33 |
| Tarminquay | These are two very competitive boxes. | 04:34 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:52 |
| dotpixis | lotuspsychje: good morning | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | hey dotpixis | 07:22 |
| Tarminquay | http://vishveshtech.blogspot.ca/2015/06/gigabyte-brix-s-gb-bxi3h-5010-intel-i3.html | 07:32 |
| Tarminquay | I bought this box. | 07:32 |
| Tarminquay | It was rated 10 out of 10. | 07:32 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Tarminquay | 07:33 |
| Tarminquay | Hi lotuspsychje | 07:34 |
| Tarminquay | Do you like the Box I bought? | 07:34 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 07:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Tarminquay: cool, barebone | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Tarminquay: gonna put ubuntu on it? | 07:35 |
| Tarminquay | Yes. | 07:35 |
| Tarminquay | Actually, I bought it from ITXCanada | 07:35 |
| Tarminquay | it comes with 8GB of ram and 120 GB SSD. | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 07:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Tarminquay: how much did it cost you | 07:36 |
| Tarminquay | $540 + tax. | 07:36 |
| lotuspsychje | hmmm bit pricey | 07:37 |
| Tarminquay | $30 shipping. | 07:37 |
| Tarminquay | It's Canadian dollars. | 07:37 |
| lotuspsychje | how much is that in euro or dollars? | 07:37 |
| Tarminquay | Well, maybe $400 USD. | 07:42 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 07:44 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:53 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader | 08:54 |
| lotuspsychje | all ok mate? | 08:55 |
| lordievader | Morning lotuspsychje | 08:55 |
| lordievader | Doing okay here, how are you? | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | fine thank you | 08:56 |
| lotuspsychje | reading bit news | 08:56 |
| * lordievader is reading cron-mail | 08:56 | |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 08:57 |
| bonzibuddy | hello | 09:02 |
| lordievader | Bonzi? Wow, haven't seen that one in a long time ;) | 09:06 |
| lotuspsychje | hi bonzibuddy | 09:06 |
| lordievader | Why the nick though? | 09:07 |
| bonzibuddy | lordievader: because i can :D | 09:18 |
| lordievader | ... XD | 09:18 |
| Tarminquay_ | Thoughts? | 11:20 |
| === Tarminquay_ is now known as Tarminquay | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:40 |
| === MooDoo_ is now known as MooDoo | ||
| * daftykins groans | 15:28 | |
| * OerHeks blups | 15:31 | |
| daftykins | what's a blup? :D | 15:33 |
| OerHeks | bubble of air | 15:34 |
| daftykins | ah har | 15:36 |
| daftykins | mmm warm all butter croissant and pan au chocolate for lunch | 15:40 |
| daftykins | *chocolat maybe | 15:40 |
| nicomachus | a lot of the scopes were removed from xenial on Monday. Musique, Clementine, etc. all the media scopes. I'm guessing online will be next. | 15:45 |
| OerHeks | i think it is a great move, that amazon-thingy, let people be aware of their data | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | amazon is a pita email spam-wise, but we find shopping online so darn convenient that I just put up with it | 15:54 |
| nicomachus | signing up for Micro Center emails was the best thing I ever did. those guys have some great sales. | 15:54 |
| nicomachus | hahahaha, have you guys ever done "apt-get moo"? | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | yeah we have a simiar store here in Canada, NCIX ...good deals and fast delivery | 15:59 |
| daftykins | i figured there was a whiff in here today still ;) | 16:18 |
| * OerHeks smells a husky | 16:21 | |
| daftykins | :D | 16:23 |
| TJ- | After-hectic-noon :D | 16:28 |
| OerHeks | hi TJ- | 16:29 |
| daftykins | \o | 16:32 |
| daftykins | aww finally got a number for the sub repair but no answer | 16:36 |
| TJ- | I've got a working talking mobo now, so can use it to fix the others :) | 16:37 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:38 |
| daftykins | nicomachus: i wonder if that user's situation is as simple as using the wrong account / permissions preventing settings change in ~/ ? | 17:25 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening mates | 17:27 |
| daftykins | \o | 17:28 |
| nicomachus | daftykins: good thought. any way to verify that tweak tool has the right perms? | 17:28 |
| * lotuspsychje is updating his bq to OTA 8.5 | 17:28 | |
| daftykins | nicomachus: an ls -al ~/ would show whether any of the config paths are owned by another user, often we get users running 'sudo startx' then trashing their home perms | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | and updated xenial box also | 17:28 |
| daftykins | lotuspsychje: :) | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hey daftykins | 17:28 |
| TJ- | if you want to locate files NOT owned by the user, do "find $HOME ! -uid $(id -u) -ls" | 17:33 |
| lotuspsychje | hey eric | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | hey TJ- | 17:35 |
| lotuspsychje | hey OerHeks | 17:36 |
| nicomachus | hmm... permissions look fine, daftykins | 17:36 |
| daftykins | well there are two folders there that at the root are owned by root instead of the user | 17:37 |
| daftykins | but yeah don't seem to be relevant ones, i'd try what TJ- said to be sure | 17:37 |
| lotuspsychje | alot of news today: http://linux.softpedia.com/ | 17:38 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | hey mate | 17:40 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going? | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | fine tnx and you? | 17:40 |
| EriC^^ | great thanks | 17:40 |
| EriC^^ | wow 39 | 17:41 |
| EriC^^ | we're becoming a cult :D | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah i keep inviting friendly guys :p | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | and alot of regulars forget to auto add to favs also :p | 17:42 |
| EriC^^ | haha | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | nono its not you :p | 17:42 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | monkey and ioria | 17:42 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 17:43 |
| lotuspsychje | !inof linux-image-generic xenial | 17:44 |
| ubot5 | lotuspsychje: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 17:44 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic xenial | 17:44 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.2.5 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB | 17:44 |
| lotuspsychje | 4.3 :p | 17:44 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 17:44 |
| lotuspsychje | and a new grub exploit out there: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2836-1/ | 17:45 |
| lotuspsychje | all update to latest :p | 17:45 |
| TJ- | nothing major | 17:46 |
| TJ- | only affects folks that set a password on their grub.cfg | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | good to know TJ- | 17:46 |
| TJ- | I got Mark to push out a fix yesterday | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:46 |
| TJ- | they were going to leave it until after the winter holiday | 17:47 |
| daftykins | TJ-: in the pics of your office i didn't see the red phone to Canonical HQ ;) | 17:47 |
| OerHeks | red headset | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: you are the 40th user!!! you have wonthe price today: http://weknowyourdreams.com/image.php?pic=/images/apple/apple-05.jpg | 17:47 |
| nicomachus | it's #DD4814 Orange, daftykins | 17:47 |
| daftykins | :> | 17:47 |
| EriC^^ | "you can do it Mark.. *heavy breathing* ho - ho - ho ... push... ho- ho - ho push.." | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:48 |
| EriC^^ | i think i see the head, one last big push mark | 17:48 |
| daftykins | EriC^^: i didn't realise he had to birth every mythical creature each release was named after... | 17:48 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 17:48 |
| lordievader | Err... Okay? | 17:48 |
| TJ- | Security team lead Marc (not Mark) Deslauriers | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:48 |
| daftykins | d'aww that's our entertainment ruined ;) | 17:49 |
| nicomachus | well i don't care if it's ruined, I made a render of TJ-'s emergency phone: http://i.imgur.com/B4IScj7.png | 18:00 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:01 |
| nicomachus | sigh... vbox still leaking memory. | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: have you tried launching from terminal? | 18:05 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: host is W7 | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: maybe your w7 is full of spyware :p | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | and giving memory to rootkits and malware | 18:06 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: that would be a very serious problem indeed. :) but it's not. | 18:07 |
| daftykins | don't let that meanie lotus be nasty about Windows ;) | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: open taskmanager while you vbox and checkout? | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | and open a netsta | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | netstat | 18:09 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: I have it's memory usage graphed in performance monitor | 18:12 |
| slidinghorn | so I just logged in to find some jerk sent me a really rude pm from the support channel...not sure who they are or why they felt the need to do that, but yeah....good morning, I guess, lol | 18:15 |
| EriC^^ | did it involve the word "bastard" ? | 18:15 |
| lotuspsychje | slidinghorn: wich one? | 18:15 |
| nicomachus | slidinghorn: I got that last night. | 18:16 |
| daftykins | slidinghorn: check they're still active and report them to #ubuntu-ops | 18:16 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: i mserious mate, scan your system with malwarebytes and spybot | 18:16 |
| slidinghorn | EriC^^: yeah... | 18:16 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: I assure you, it's clean. | 18:16 |
| daftykins | lotuspsychje: that's not gonna make virtualbox use RAM ;) | 18:16 |
| EriC^^ | slidinghorn: i get those sometimes | 18:16 |
| OerHeks | report them in #ubuntu-ops | 18:16 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: if other things eat his ram | 18:16 |
| slidinghorn | so weird....ok | 18:16 |
| EriC^^ | some guy picks random people who are active in the channel and starts pm'ing | 18:17 |
| OerHeks | got a spam recently to install a firewall with malware :-D | 18:17 |
| OerHeks | no, he was not in the channel at all | 18:17 |
| OerHeks | :-D | 18:17 |
| daftykins | how wude | 18:17 |
| daftykins | they've... adapted ¬_¬ | 18:17 |
| OerHeks | maybe has been, harvesting. | 18:17 |
| daftykins | ah wb Bashing-om o/ | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: i once had a customer, that bought antivirus 2007, payed 60 $ for it, and had 200 malwares inside | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 18:18 |
| EriC^^ | hey Bashing-om | 18:18 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Howdy - procrastinating, but I will get back to my chores here directly . // EriC^^ How goes your world ? | 18:19 |
| OerHeks | ehh ..you sold antivirus with 200 malwares? | 18:19 |
| OerHeks | gotcha | 18:19 |
| EriC^^ | Bashing-om: good good :) | 18:19 |
| daftykins | :D yep all ok here | 18:20 |
| daftykins | up and out early tomorrow to start cabling up a house for network and phone | 18:20 |
| nicomachus | rebooting. | 18:20 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Ya finding anything for gainful emploment ? | 18:20 |
| EriC^^ | Bashing-om: not really | 18:20 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: New construction .. or are you mouseing the cabling ? | 18:21 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: the guy bought it online somewhere | 18:22 |
| daftykins | a friends an electrician so he's put it all in, i've only got to terminate :) | 18:22 |
| daftykins | just some folks with a house that they've stripped back to the bare floorboards | 18:22 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Bummer, but it turms up when you least expect it . | 18:22 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that's true | 18:23 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Test pprior to covering it all up, huh ? | 18:24 |
| daftykins | well nothing will be final as they're moving around the house a lot, mostly switching one temporary setup for another temporary setup to keep them online etc :) | 18:25 |
| nicomachus | OerHeks: setting to +r might hav helped with the massive flood of spam that came through last night. | 18:26 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Ouch . Time consumming in making all the switching about . Hope they pay well ! | 18:26 |
| daftykins | should mean more and more work really :D annoyingly the patch panel i ordered in has to be sent back so now i have to wait for another one | 18:27 |
| nicomachus | vbox is so weird. | 19:00 |
| daftykins | hmm 3.13.0-73 for trusty | 19:36 |
| * slidinghorn snickers but composes self | 19:44 | |
| daftykins | about what? | 19:45 |
| daftykins | also i do like a good Snickers bar | 19:45 |
| slidinghorn | I was being mean...someone told another to go to /etc/grub.d/ and they asked if it was an IRC channel | 19:50 |
| daftykins | that *was* pretty bad | 19:50 |
| daftykins | i wonder what they would've done if told to go /home ... | 19:51 |
| slidinghorn | "I'm already there...sitting in my living room as we speak!" | 19:52 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: 3.13.0-73 hit my mirror this morning when I logged onto the system I upgraded . | 20:04 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:05 |
| daftykins | the update notification at login seems a bit broken on mine | 20:06 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Honestly .. I run bare essentials . Minimal automation - My habit is 1st thing check for updates when logging back on . Then again your morror may not have caught up yet . | 20:09 |
| daftykins | gb.archive has actually been oddly slow for me of late | 20:10 |
| daftykins | but yeah who knows when it got them :D | 20:11 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: I was using a university's mirror site, I giess the students kept the server up .. was generally a week behind .. then started having lots of access problems .. last time it went down for our ubuntu repo after 4 days I swapped mittor sites . This one I have now is fast in syncing up with mother . | 20:13 |
| Bashing-om | mittor/mirror * | 20:13 |
| daftykins | pesky students :D | 20:16 |
| nicomachus | well, vbox mem leaks seem to be related to 3D acceleration... not sure exactly what yet, though. | 20:16 |
| nicomachus | self-driving car running on ubuntu :D | 20:25 |
| nicomachus | http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/ | 20:25 |
| daftykins | *kernel panic* | 20:25 |
| OerHeks | grub backslash :-D | 20:25 |
| EriC^^ | *kernel rage* | 20:25 |
| EriC^^ | *GTA mode initiated* | 20:26 |
| daftykins | lane changed to: pavement | 20:27 |
| nicomachus | Wow. during the test with the reporter, the reporter asks what it felt like the first time Holtz got it to work. | 20:30 |
| nicomachus | Holtz replies: “Dude,” he says, “the first time it worked was this morning.” | 20:30 |
| nicomachus | terrifying. | 20:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ooo 42 | 20:57 |
| lotuspsychje | what did i win? | 20:57 |
| nicomachus | wow, I didn't know you get on IRC from Tehran | 21:01 |
| lotuspsychje | iran? | 21:01 |
| nicomachus | reza_sam's IP traces to Tehran, Iran | 21:03 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: yeah we had iran users before | 21:04 |
| nicomachus | cool. | 21:04 |
| daftykins | "run through a gantlet" comes to something when even bloomberg can't avoid typos | 21:05 |
| daftykins | i had kind of pictured geohot achieving a bit more in life by this point though :P | 21:05 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 21:05 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: found a purpose for your 2nd ssd yet mate? | 21:05 |
| nicomachus | daftykins: seems like he's bounced around a bit trying to decide what he wants to do | 21:05 |
| daftykins | newp not a clue! | 21:09 |
| daftykins | almost tempting to just send it back, but it's not like £33 is much | 21:09 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: extra fast ssd storage? | 21:10 |
| daftykins | i don't need any storage tbh, already got 10TB on tap | 21:14 |
| lotuspsychje | right :p | 21:15 |
| lotuspsychje | send it to lotuspsychje by the post | 21:15 |
| lotuspsychje | and ill transfer you money | 21:15 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 21:15 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw | 21:15 |
| pauljw | :) | 21:16 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: Just in time .. the fun has started . | 21:16 |
| pauljw | good... ;) | 21:16 |
| slidinghorn | daftykins: You can ship international? I can haz? | 21:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 21:19 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: Heads up ... It has been " Oh now you tell us " having to dig to get information . | 21:20 |
| pauljw | oh boy | 21:20 |
| lotuspsychje | hi philipballew | 21:21 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-applications-15-12-launches-for-kde-plasma-5-5-with-spectacle-screenshot-tool-497730.shtml | 21:22 |
| philipballew | lotuspsychje, what up dude? | 21:24 |
| lotuspsychje | chillin and readin some uubntu news philipballew | 21:24 |
| philipballew | lotuspsychje, anything good there? | 21:25 |
| lotuspsychje | philipballew: there was some nice news today yes | 21:25 |
| lotuspsychje | philipballew: xenial on 4.3 kernel | 21:25 |
| lotuspsychje | xenial removed online search from dash | 21:25 |
| philipballew | hum, I should read that tonight then | 21:25 |
| philipballew | seems odd | 21:26 |
| lotuspsychje | new OTA 8.5 for phones out | 21:26 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, thanks, kubuntu is a little behind in the plasma 5.5 packaging, but we anticipate the backports will have it soon | 21:26 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: you may have been gone... did you see self-driving car that runs on ubuntu? | 21:26 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah mcphail posted it in #ubuntu-touch | 21:27 |
| nicomachus | nice. | 21:27 |
| slidinghorn | that "smart_pussy" person was a bit of a troll yesterday...be advised | 21:27 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx for the update slidinghorn | 21:27 |
| nicomachus | can a nick break guidelines? | 21:28 |
| lotuspsychje | yes nicomachus | 21:28 |
| pauljw | got something against cats? :) | 21:28 |
| slidinghorn | I asked him to change it yesterday...he's apparently got it back to it | 21:28 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks recently had to guideline a nick wich child related issues | 21:28 |
| nicomachus | LOL. yesterday he changed it to dumb_dicks or something for a few mins. | 21:28 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: some nicks have words against freenodes policy | 21:29 |
| pauljw | ah geez, probably 12 years old.. | 21:29 |
| slidinghorn | waits for ban hammer to be drawn.... | 21:30 |
| pauljw | heheh... | 21:30 |
| nicomachus | and the hammer comes down | 21:31 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 21:31 |
| lotuspsychje | also nice news source, for those who didnt know it yet: https://twitter.com/ubuntu | 21:32 |
| * nicomachus wants to learn Russian just so he can type in that beautiful looking script. | 21:32 | |
| slidinghorn | was completely unaware of that (believe it or not)...thanks lotuspsychje | 21:33 |
| nicomachus | how do I not have that on one of my tweetdeck lists... | 21:33 |
| lotuspsychje | your welcome :p | 21:33 |
| lotuspsychje | im not tweet or fb fan myself, but this ubuntu related can do it :p | 21:34 |
| lotuspsychje | the less they know of me the better | 21:34 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: did you try unity8 on xenial yet? | 21:35 |
| slidinghorn | I love twitter...usually | 21:35 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: no, it still doesn't work in Virtualbox. | 21:37 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 21:37 |
| nicomachus | and I'm still afraid to put it on my laptop at home, because I'm starting a new job January 4th and that'll be my main workstation. | 21:37 |
| nicomachus | I think. Unless they provide me a laptop. but I doubt they'll do that. | 21:37 |
| daftykins | live session alone not cut it for a brief stab? | 21:37 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah if work needs windowz | 21:38 |
| lotuspsychje | better wait | 21:38 |
| nicomachus | I suppose I could, daftykins. I'm using xenial in this VM right now, just not unity 8 | 21:38 |
| nicomachus | and I don't need windows for the job, lotuspsychje, but I do need stability. | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: yeah things still can break on xenial so | 21:39 |
| nicomachus | exactly. :) | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | but my desktop still looks pretty stable to me | 21:39 |
| nicomachus | xenial's been pretty good on this VM except for the mem leaks. | 21:40 |
| nicomachus | and of course a ton of PPAs don't have xenial releases yet. | 21:41 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: talk to the vbox guys perhaps for windows related memory issues? | 21:41 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: how much ram do you have? | 21:41 |
| nicomachus | Been trying. it's likely something to do with the 3D Acelleration. | 21:41 |
| nicomachus | 16gb on the host. 2gb allocated to the guest. | 21:41 |
| nicomachus | but the guest hasn't used more than 500mb really at any time. | 21:42 |
| lotuspsychje | try 4 gig on the guest? | 21:42 |
| TJ- | There are several well-known, and some currently unfixed, large memory leaks with VirtualBox according to their bug-tracker. Some of them are triggered by using the Gui Manager, or Preview feature | 21:42 |
| daftykins | being asked to look at some apple products tomorrow, blech | 21:43 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: yea it looked like there were quite a few reported in VirtualBox 4.x, so I had hoped they were resolved in 5.0.10, but guess not. :/ | 21:43 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: doing what exactly? | 21:43 |
| daftykins | just photo transfer from one iPad to another | 21:43 |
| nicomachus | easy peasy. | 21:44 |
| daftykins | not given i have to go to them | 21:44 |
| daftykins | :P | 21:44 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 21:44 |
| lotuspsychje | your not going to steal their pics daftykins | 21:44 |
| nicomachus | the fappening pt. 3, sponsored by daftykins | 21:45 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 21:45 |
| daftykins | i don't find that funny | 21:45 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: whats her name :p | 21:45 |
| daftykins | my first thought was just throwing on iCloud photostream and letting that take care of it | 21:45 |
| lotuspsychje | this is just why i love ubuntu touch | 21:46 |
| lotuspsychje | nice file manager | 21:46 |
| daftykins | that doesn't really help you going from one device to another though | 21:47 |
| nicomachus | lotuspsychje: to give you an idea of the mem leak issue: https://imgur.com/nXybZ9k | 21:47 |
| lotuspsychje | the cloud | 21:47 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: is the guest accessing shared folders on the host? | 21:47 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: nope. | 21:48 |
| nicomachus | just clipboard. | 21:48 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: i would advise to store photo's on other media | 21:48 |
| daftykins | that's not really the task at hand though | 21:49 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: OK, apparently that's one known scenario. I found this (makes me wonder if you can test woth 5.0.8) https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/14850 | 21:49 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: something like this? http://www.phototransferapp.com/ipad/ | 21:51 |
| daftykins | mmm not sure there's a need to go to a third party | 21:52 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: found a download of it, I'll give it a shot in the morning. don't have much time left today. | 21:52 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: im sure the store has something free like that | 21:53 |
| daftykins | well it depends if the built in feature is a problem | 21:53 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: right. This seems to be direct, tagged list: https://www.virtualbox.org/query?status=!closed&keywords=~leak | 21:53 |
| TJ- | there's an interesting one where 3D compositor is enabled in the guest, caused by bad host graphics drivers: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13526 | 21:56 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: this one seems most similar, minus the stuff about Dash being open: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13526 | 21:56 |
| TJ- | LOL snap | 21:56 |
| nicomachus | well. | 21:56 |
| daftykins | randomnoob just asked me how to add "bs=2M" to the dd command :( | 21:57 |
| TJ- | well you can test this one by disabling compositing - use a different DE to Unity for a test session | 21:57 |
| daftykins | in a PM no less :( | 21:57 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: by luck, I have i3 installed and somewhat configured on this VM... | 21:57 |
| TJ- | ahhh, you need /umode +g | 21:57 |
| TJ- | nicomachus: is it using compositing ? | 21:57 |
| TJ- | Because the root of that bug would be - I infer - the host not corretly accounting for 'virtual' GPU memory for textures | 21:58 |
| nicomachus | uhhh... I have 3D acceleration enabled inthe Vbox manager | 21:58 |
| nicomachus | but it would absolutely make sense that my host has outdated graphics drivers. updates are pushed from sysadmin, who sucks. | 21:59 |
| nicomachus | not that I could do better, but surely someone could. | 22:00 |
| nicomachus | TJ-: I just realized I have the same graphics chipset as that bug report. | 22:00 |
| daftykins | that's harsh, if i were in charge of a network of systems for a firm i would maintain what works, not do what these youngsters do of chasing version numbers | 22:03 |
| daftykins | you've got to see your exact situation as niche as hell, right? :) | 22:03 |
| nicomachus | well... all of our PC's are still running IE9, and need admin credentials (which someone gave me for some reason) to install ANYTHING else. | 22:05 |
| daftykins | must be a web app or program that uses old *shrug* | 22:07 |
| nicomachus | the admin credentials part makes sense, but not IE9. IE10 is EOL in January, so we severely need an update. | 22:07 |
| daftykins | well some contracts are keeping IE8 going on XP *shrug* | 22:07 |
| nicomachus | but the IT department manages thousands of different offices across the country, so I guess I can't blame them too much. | 22:07 |
| nicomachus | rebooting | 22:10 |
| lotuspsychje | nite nite all | 22:15 |
| nicomachus | hmmm... installed the new intel drivers and it does seem to be more stable. | 22:24 |
| nicomachus | if I open the dash it does jump up a bit, but falls right back down when I close it. | 22:25 |
| TJ- | Result :) | 22:29 |
| nicomachus | Yea, that seems to have resolved it so far. :) I'll know more tomorrow when I can let it run a bit longer. Thanks TJ-! | 22:30 |
| nicomachus | !cookie | TJ- | 22:30 |
| ubot5 | TJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 22:30 |
| * TJ- is too full :D | 22:30 | |
| daftykins | ooh speaking of cookies | 22:30 |
| slidinghorn | ws that the sameerson again? | 23:09 |
| daftykins | slidinghorn: so far you're winning the prize of most vague messages here in -discuss :) | 23:10 |
| daftykins | however a little context would be handy! | 23:10 |
| slidinghorn | ban hammer came out again in support | 23:11 |
| daftykins | ah ok, pretty regular | 23:13 |
| daftykins | when they're awake | 23:13 |
| TJ- | migraines and programming don't mix; wish I felt tired! | 23:13 |
| slidinghorn | I just figured it was the same one as before because of the nick...was another inappropriate one | 23:14 |
| pauljw | sorry to hear that TJ- , my wife suffers with migraines, they're miserable... | 23:16 |
| slidinghorn | TJ-: that sucks...I get those too from time to time | 23:16 |
| pauljw | any of you guys played around in opensuse? i installed it in vbox and it didn't seem to play well so tonight i'm trying it in kvm hoping it will be better. | 23:18 |
| TJ- | yeah, I'll get over it; it's like having a twisted ankle when I want to run :) | 23:18 |
| daftykins | mmm never tried i'm afraid | 23:18 |
| TJ- | I started out on SuSE in the 1990s :) | 23:18 |
| pauljw | :) | 23:18 |
| daftykins | i must sleep! later folks o/ | 23:18 |
| pauljw | later... | 23:18 |
| TJ- | night :) | 23:18 |
| slidinghorn | later daftykins | 23:18 |
| Bashing-om | Gnite daftykins | 23:20 |
| pauljw | that's cool TJ- , i like to check things out, new to kvm too so this should be fun... | 23:21 |
| TJ- | kvm is actually implemented fully in Qemu now, so KVM is 'just' the acronym for the Linux kernel virtual machine interface | 23:24 |
| TJ- | I've been using kvm/qemu since 2007 in earnest. The one thing its not designed for is hosting GUIs that require accelerated 3D graphics | 23:26 |
| TJ- | Intel and others are recently focusing on adding that functionality, both GPU PCI pass-through but also full virtualised guest GPUs | 23:27 |
| pauljw | ah, good. so far so good with my install, seems to be more responsive with kvm. | 23:28 |
| pauljw | my laptop has plenty of horsepower | 23:29 |
| TJ- | as long as the BIOS doesn't disable the CPUs VT extenstions the virtualisation overheard is minimal | 23:33 |
| slidinghorn | I wonder how long it takes for freenode to allow more connections...the free shell I use hit their limit and has to ask for more | 23:33 |
| pauljw | TJ-, kvm-ok says i'm good... :) | 23:42 |
| TJ- | I had to hack Sony's back in 2007 due to BIOS lock-out | 23:44 |
| TJ- | and about a week ago I helped daftykins unlock his Sony's VT; was a bit of deja-vu | 23:44 |
| pauljw | fun | 23:50 |
| pauljw | must say, suse shows nice fit and polish with gnome de, i like it. | 23:51 |
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