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grendel-primehe guys00:36
grendel-primeI have an iview i would like to install touch on.00:36
grendel-primeim running into some differences in the install process but this device looks like it should be rather simple..its got developer mode enabled out of the box.00:37
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dholbachgood morning07:17
RMJis popey in?09:12
RMJlol09:13
popeyyeah, stupid internet connection09:14
popeywassup?09:14
RMJThis went down yesterday?09:14
RMJDunno if you remember but I had an incorrect artist picture in my music09:15
RMJI checked the ID3 tags using easytag, it ,looked ok09:15
RMJJust wondered if you had any other suggestions or should I file a bug?09:16
popeyi do recall, yes09:17
popeyI would file a bug, but you'll probably need to provide one of the offending audio files so someone can reproduce it..09:19
RMJok thx09:20
RMJSo is the OTA 8.5 out yet?09:22
popeypass09:23
popeyI just connected09:23
RMJThink it's imminent....09:23
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-8.5 says not yet09:23
RMJLooking forward to OTA9 so I can connect my bluetooth keyboard..09:24
RMJpopey. Just thinking about it, I'll do another test with another album by this band where I hadn't converted it from a record. If it's still wrong then I'll file a bug09:30
popeytbh it's going to be hard, for tracks like that09:30
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RMJYeah we'll see, don't want to waste anyones time on an obscure band no one else has probably heard of from the mp3 converted from analogue lol09:34
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Day Of Reconciliation! 😃09:37
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=== sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | OTA-8.5 phased update in progress!
RTE89hiya11:41
RTE89will I lose my user data (contacts, photos...) if I ubuntu-device-flash?11:42
jgdxRTE89, no, as long as you do not pass --wipe or flash from the bootloader iirc11:45
RTE89I see11:46
RTE89I'm getting this errors. Already enabled developer mode and the device is connected (and MTP mounted automatically):11:47
RTE89*these11:47
RTE89Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...11:47
RTE89Cannot determine the device name: exit status 25511:47
RTE89also adb complains it cannot find the device when I try to use adb shell11:48
jgdxRTE89, the phone is in dev mode?11:55
RTE89yup11:55
jgdxwhat's the device?11:56
RTE89Aquaris E511:56
jgdxadb devices is empty?11:59
jgdxmaybe adb doesn't know the device due to it being old. Maybe try http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14048970/ ?12:00
RTE89that did it12:01
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RTE89thank you12:02
RTE89is it ok to be in the rc channel instead of stable?12:04
RTE89do things break often?12:04
jgdxRTE89, np. Yes.12:04
RTE89will there be frequent updates though?12:05
jgdxdaily12:05
RTE89mmh ok12:05
jgdxit's okay if you feedback the bugs you find, not okay if you expect an image with tons of qa :)12:06
jgdxbecause there will be bugs12:06
davmor2RTE89: rc-proposed is updated daily, rc is what become stable, if this is your only phone I recommend staying on stable12:07
RTE89jgdx: of course12:07
RTE89davmor2: I see, thanks12:07
vandenoevercan i send all ubuntu phone traffic via vpn?12:20
davmor2vandenoever: openvpn is currently installed but you would need to enable it via the terminal, hopefully coming soon will be a full system-settings way of setting up a vpn12:23
vandenoeverdavmor2: ok, so is there also a way to send all http and https via a proxy e.g. privoxy?12:24
vandenoeverdavmor2: of course with vpn, i could do that serverside12:24
davmor2vandenoever: not currently12:24
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RTE89I've got a custom ringtone I'd like to use. If I copy it to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones, will I lose it on the next update?12:49
RTE89I -o remount,rw'd and copied it there. Better than nothing12:58
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jgdxRTE89, you will13:18
jgdxRTE89, can't you just use System Settings? I think we have custom ringtones in OTA813:18
RTE89jgdx: there are custom alarm sounds, but not ringtones13:34
jgdxRTE89, okay, then maybe that's ota913:35
RTE89nice13:35
jgdxRTE89, if you put a sound in .local/share/sounds… it should  work IIRC.13:35
jgdxI think that's a part of xdg data dirs13:35
RTE89I moved it from /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones/ to ~/.local/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones/ (had to create most of the destination tree) and it seems to work, but we'll see13:40
RTE89Yeah, I think that did it13:41
FinlayDaG33kanyone who knows what's new in version 28?13:56
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davmor2apparently not enough for you to wait for an answer13:59
RTE89davmor2: lol14:02
RTE89davmor2: btw, is there a roadmap I can check out?14:03
brendanddavmor2, i love the old drive-by help me messages14:04
brendanddavmor2, they're funny14:04
davmor2RTE89: there are the milestones you can find them in launchpad https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww02-2016 is the current ota9 one14:05
davmor2brendand: meh14:06
RTE89davmor2: ty14:07
RTE89wow, these people are working their asses off14:10
davmor2RTE89: it's only an guestimate some will be moved onto the next milestone, it's like the "this is what we'd like to hit", lets see how we do kinda measure :)14:14
davmor2RTE89: holidays, illness, projects taking longer than anticipated all have knock on effects14:14
RTE89I hope I'll get some free time soon. I'd like to get my hands dirty and there are still a lot of basic apps missing (like an FTP client)14:19
davmor2RTE89: there's a terminal app why would you need ftp ;)14:26
vandenoeverwhat's best for popmail on ubuntu phone?14:35
RTE89I think dekko (future official app)14:36
vandenoeverok, cool i found it14:36
DanChapmandekko doesn't support pop yet14:36
RTE89oh14:36
RTE89I only use imap ^^14:36
DanChapmanpatches welcome though :-D14:37
vandenoeverprobably some kde frameworks libs could help14:38
davmor2vandenoever: erm possibly not, if you use kde frameworks that will pull in most of kde's lib/file controls etc etc  You might be able to find a qt pop lib but the trojita project is only imap which is what dekko was based on14:41
vandenoeverdavmor2: as far as i know, kde frameworks has become very modular with each module requiring as little as possible14:42
RTE89dekko's search seems to come up with the same messages no matter what you search for14:42
davmor2vandenoever: you would still require a lot of lib and files that are not on the system, that's my point14:44
mardytvoss: hi! When you have some time, I'd appreciate your directives on https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/providers-dir/+merge/28072414:59
tvossmardy, sure, will be later today, though14:59
mardytvoss: excellent. And don't bother with an in-depth review, I'd just like to know if overall you think that the direction is good (the MP description contains a few questions to you)15:00
tvossmardy, perfect, thank you15:00
vandenoeveri've trouble getting my meizu mx into the mode where i can flash it15:07
vandenoeveri try holding lower volume + power15:08
pmcgowandisconnect the usb cable when you do it15:08
vandenoeverah, what should the screen look like on success?15:09
pmcgowanvandenoever, you just see small text that its in fastboot15:12
pmcgowanblack bacground15:12
vandenoeverpmcgowan: ok got that and send the recovery.img, now i rebooted to 'recovery mode'15:13
vandenoeverwhich shows only ubuntu logo on purple15:13
vandenoever"Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 255"15:15
davmor2vandenoever: what recovery image are you using and what are you attempting to do15:17
CoZohi all15:17
vandenoeverdavmor2: i'm using the image from here: http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/master/device_arale.tar.xz15:18
vandenoeverdavmor2: i want to flash to a new release because the version i have does not do owa15:18
vandenoeverputting the recovery.img seems to have worked15:18
vandenoevernow trying to run "ubuntu-device-flash touch --clean-cache --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en"15:19
CoZois anyone even get the issue on a nexus 4, some touch screen area are non functional after a ubuntu install. I saw same issue with older android (was a kernel problem) ?15:19
davmor2vandenoever: "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --recovery-img /path/to/recovery.img"15:20
vandenoevercurrent version is 'Ubuntu 15.04 (r4)'15:20
vandenoeverdavmor2: unknown flag `recovery image'15:21
dobeyCoZo: sounds like a hardware problem15:21
davmor2vandenoever: --recovery-image sorry15:22
CoZodobey: yes, i saw the same pb here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/section-touch-screen-t2232903 that why i wonder about a kernel fact15:23
vandenoeverdavmor2: still unknown :-/  unbuntu-device-flash 0.2+14.04.20140416.2-0ubuntu115:23
vandenoever(i'm on trusty)15:23
dobeyCoZo: the kernel we use on mako has been the same since forever; the android 4.4 kernel15:23
dobeyvandenoever: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash15:24
dobeyit's --recovery-image15:24
dobeynot img15:24
CoZommh okay i will try to flash again15:24
CoZothank you15:24
davmor2dobey: I corrected that but he says it is still playing up15:25
dobeyCoZo: like i said, it's a hardware problem15:25
vandenoevernow running "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --bootstrap" which does something15:25
dobeyvandenoever: are you ok with losing all your data on the phone?15:25
vandenoeverdobey: yes15:26
pmcgowanvandenoever, you need to get the latest package  from the ppa15:26
pmcgowanthat version is too old15:26
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vandenoeveri've now upgraded ubuntu-device-flash to the latest version and booted to the ubuntu logo in recovery mode15:46
vandenoeverunf the error is now '2015/12/16 16:45:41 Target device cannot be reached over adb'15:46
vandenoeverah, i need an adb-enabled image for the mx415:53
vandenoeverhow long does recovery take? three small images have been pushed, the three large ones (57M, 69M, 282M) are still in progress it seems16:16
* lotuspsychje just updates his Bq to OTA 8.517:31
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k1lsystemupdate is the 8,5 update?18:03
k1lah, it says in the topic :)18:04
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lotuspsychjek1l: working like a charm here :p18:08
ondraMyself5 you can build ubuntu rootfs image straight from android tree now18:17
ondraMyself5 just call make ubunturootfsimage18:17
ondraMyself5 I will download tarballs from system image, unpacks them and then creates ext4 img file18:18
dobeydoes the camera app not use the microphone?18:25
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vandenoeverthe browser on the ubuntu phone is crazy fast: very nice20:34
mcphailI look at unity running on this 21.5" monitor and wonder when the app will be coming to my 4.5" phone - http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/ ;)21:02
kowakanyone know how to make wifi works on a new device without use insmod .../wlan.ko on terminal?22:30
sturmflutkowak: I would say either build the module into the kernel and not as a module, or load the module during init22:39
jgdxmzanetti, hey, what happens if I send 100 sms messages to my bq? does unity8 do anything to prevent 100 notifications from showing in succession?22:50
mzanettijgdx, probably not... would need to check the code22:50
jgdxmzanetti, wouldn't unity8/postal office be the right place to deal with that problem?22:51
jgdxif not, every app have to deal with this themselves22:51
jgdxiiuic22:51
mzanettiyes, lp:unity-notifications is the place22:51
mzanettithere is some fancy queuing mechanism with priorities and whatnot22:52
jgdxokay, I'll test some stuff tomorrow morning and file a bug if I find crazy22:52
mzanettihowever, I'm not sure right now if it has some DoS protection22:52
jgdxmzanetti, ack, thanks!22:52

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