[00:36] <grendel-prime> he guys
[00:36] <grendel-prime> I have an iview i would like to install touch on.
[00:37] <grendel-prime> im running into some differences in the install process but this device looks like it should be rather simple..its got developer mode enabled out of the box.
[07:17] <dholbach> good morning
[09:12] <RMJ> is popey in?
[09:13] <RMJ> lol
[09:14] <popey> yeah, stupid internet connection
[09:14] <popey> wassup?
[09:14] <RMJ> This went down yesterday?
[09:15] <RMJ> Dunno if you remember but I had an incorrect artist picture in my music
[09:15] <RMJ> I checked the ID3 tags using easytag, it ,looked ok
[09:16] <RMJ> Just wondered if you had any other suggestions or should I file a bug?
[09:17] <popey> i do recall, yes
[09:19] <popey> I would file a bug, but you'll probably need to provide one of the offending audio files so someone can reproduce it..
[09:20] <RMJ> ok thx
[09:22] <RMJ> So is the OTA 8.5 out yet?
[09:23] <popey> pass
[09:23] <popey> I just connected
[09:23] <RMJ> Think it's imminent....
[09:23] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-8.5 says not yet
[09:24] <RMJ> Looking forward to OTA9 so I can connect my bluetooth keyboard..
[09:30] <RMJ> popey. Just thinking about it, I'll do another test with another album by this band where I hadn't converted it from a record. If it's still wrong then I'll file a bug
[09:30] <popey> tbh it's going to be hard, for tracks like that
[09:34] <RMJ> Yeah we'll see, don't want to waste anyones time on an obscure band no one else has probably heard of from the mp3 converted from analogue lol
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Day Of Reconciliation! 😃
[11:41] <RTE89> hiya
[11:42] <RTE89> will I lose my user data (contacts, photos...) if I ubuntu-device-flash?
[11:45] <jgdx> RTE89, no, as long as you do not pass --wipe or flash from the bootloader iirc
[11:46] <RTE89> I see
[11:47] <RTE89> I'm getting this errors. Already enabled developer mode and the device is connected (and MTP mounted automatically):
[11:47] <RTE89> *these
[11:47] <RTE89> Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...
[11:47] <RTE89> Cannot determine the device name: exit status 255
[11:48] <RTE89> also adb complains it cannot find the device when I try to use adb shell
[11:55] <jgdx> RTE89, the phone is in dev mode?
[11:55] <RTE89> yup
[11:56] <jgdx> what's the device?
[11:56] <RTE89> Aquaris E5
[11:59] <jgdx> adb devices is empty?
[12:00] <jgdx> maybe adb doesn't know the device due to it being old. Maybe try http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14048970/ ?
[12:01] <RTE89> that did it
[12:02] <RTE89> thank you
[12:04] <RTE89> is it ok to be in the rc channel instead of stable?
[12:04] <RTE89> do things break often?
[12:04] <jgdx> RTE89, np. Yes.
[12:05] <RTE89> will there be frequent updates though?
[12:05] <jgdx> daily
[12:05] <RTE89> mmh ok
[12:06] <jgdx> it's okay if you feedback the bugs you find, not okay if you expect an image with tons of qa :)
[12:06] <jgdx> because there will be bugs
[12:07] <davmor2> RTE89: rc-proposed is updated daily, rc is what become stable, if this is your only phone I recommend staying on stable
[12:07] <RTE89> jgdx: of course
[12:07] <RTE89> davmor2: I see, thanks
[12:20] <vandenoever> can i send all ubuntu phone traffic via vpn?
[12:23] <davmor2> vandenoever: openvpn is currently installed but you would need to enable it via the terminal, hopefully coming soon will be a full system-settings way of setting up a vpn
[12:24] <vandenoever> davmor2: ok, so is there also a way to send all http and https via a proxy e.g. privoxy?
[12:24] <vandenoever> davmor2: of course with vpn, i could do that serverside
[12:24] <davmor2> vandenoever: not currently
[12:49] <RTE89> I've got a custom ringtone I'd like to use. If I copy it to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones, will I lose it on the next update?
[12:58] <RTE89> I -o remount,rw'd and copied it there. Better than nothing
[13:18] <jgdx> RTE89, you will
[13:18] <jgdx> RTE89, can't you just use System Settings? I think we have custom ringtones in OTA8
[13:34] <RTE89> jgdx: there are custom alarm sounds, but not ringtones
[13:35] <jgdx> RTE89, okay, then maybe that's ota9
[13:35] <RTE89> nice
[13:35] <jgdx> RTE89, if you put a sound in .local/share/sounds… it should  work IIRC.
[13:35] <jgdx> I think that's a part of xdg data dirs
[13:40] <RTE89> I moved it from /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones/ to ~/.local/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones/ (had to create most of the destination tree) and it seems to work, but we'll see
[13:41] <RTE89> Yeah, I think that did it
[13:56] <FinlayDaG33k> anyone who knows what's new in version 28?
[13:59] <davmor2> apparently not enough for you to wait for an answer
[14:02] <RTE89> davmor2: lol
[14:03] <RTE89> davmor2: btw, is there a roadmap I can check out?
[14:04] <brendand> davmor2, i love the old drive-by help me messages
[14:04] <brendand> davmor2, they're funny
[14:05] <davmor2> RTE89: there are the milestones you can find them in launchpad https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww02-2016 is the current ota9 one
[14:06] <davmor2> brendand: meh
[14:07] <RTE89> davmor2: ty
[14:10] <RTE89> wow, these people are working their asses off
[14:14] <davmor2> RTE89: it's only an guestimate some will be moved onto the next milestone, it's like the "this is what we'd like to hit", lets see how we do kinda measure :)
[14:14] <davmor2> RTE89: holidays, illness, projects taking longer than anticipated all have knock on effects
[14:19] <RTE89> I hope I'll get some free time soon. I'd like to get my hands dirty and there are still a lot of basic apps missing (like an FTP client)
[14:26] <davmor2> RTE89: there's a terminal app why would you need ftp ;)
[14:35] <vandenoever> what's best for popmail on ubuntu phone?
[14:36] <RTE89> I think dekko (future official app)
[14:36] <vandenoever> ok, cool i found it
[14:36] <DanChapman> dekko doesn't support pop yet
[14:36] <RTE89> oh
[14:36] <RTE89> I only use imap ^^
[14:37] <DanChapman> patches welcome though :-D
[14:38] <vandenoever> probably some kde frameworks libs could help
[14:41] <davmor2> vandenoever: erm possibly not, if you use kde frameworks that will pull in most of kde's lib/file controls etc etc  You might be able to find a qt pop lib but the trojita project is only imap which is what dekko was based on
[14:42] <vandenoever> davmor2: as far as i know, kde frameworks has become very modular with each module requiring as little as possible
[14:42] <RTE89> dekko's search seems to come up with the same messages no matter what you search for
[14:44] <davmor2> vandenoever: you would still require a lot of lib and files that are not on the system, that's my point
[14:59] <mardy> tvoss: hi! When you have some time, I'd appreciate your directives on https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/providers-dir/+merge/280724
[14:59] <tvoss> mardy, sure, will be later today, though
[15:00] <mardy> tvoss: excellent. And don't bother with an in-depth review, I'd just like to know if overall you think that the direction is good (the MP description contains a few questions to you)
[15:00] <tvoss> mardy, perfect, thank you
[15:07] <vandenoever> i've trouble getting my meizu mx into the mode where i can flash it
[15:08] <vandenoever> i try holding lower volume + power
[15:08] <pmcgowan> disconnect the usb cable when you do it
[15:09] <vandenoever> ah, what should the screen look like on success?
[15:12] <pmcgowan> vandenoever, you just see small text that its in fastboot
[15:12] <pmcgowan> black bacground
[15:13] <vandenoever> pmcgowan: ok got that and send the recovery.img, now i rebooted to 'recovery mode'
[15:13] <vandenoever> which shows only ubuntu logo on purple
[15:15] <vandenoever> "Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 255"
[15:17] <davmor2> vandenoever: what recovery image are you using and what are you attempting to do
[15:17] <CoZo> hi all
[15:18] <vandenoever> davmor2: i'm using the image from here: http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/master/device_arale.tar.xz
[15:18] <vandenoever> davmor2: i want to flash to a new release because the version i have does not do owa
[15:18] <vandenoever> putting the recovery.img seems to have worked
[15:19] <vandenoever> now trying to run "ubuntu-device-flash touch --clean-cache --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en"
[15:19] <CoZo> is anyone even get the issue on a nexus 4, some touch screen area are non functional after a ubuntu install. I saw same issue with older android (was a kernel problem) ?
[15:20] <davmor2> vandenoever: "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --recovery-img /path/to/recovery.img"
[15:20] <vandenoever> current version is 'Ubuntu 15.04 (r4)'
[15:21] <vandenoever> davmor2: unknown flag `recovery image'
[15:21] <dobey> CoZo: sounds like a hardware problem
[15:22] <davmor2> vandenoever: --recovery-image sorry
[15:23] <CoZo> dobey: yes, i saw the same pb here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/section-touch-screen-t2232903 that why i wonder about a kernel fact
[15:23] <vandenoever> davmor2: still unknown :-/  unbuntu-device-flash 0.2+14.04.20140416.2-0ubuntu1
[15:23] <vandenoever> (i'm on trusty)
[15:23] <dobey> CoZo: the kernel we use on mako has been the same since forever; the android 4.4 kernel
[15:24] <dobey> vandenoever: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash
[15:24] <dobey> it's --recovery-image
[15:24] <dobey> not img
[15:24] <CoZo> mmh okay i will try to flash again
[15:24] <CoZo> thank you
[15:25] <davmor2> dobey: I corrected that but he says it is still playing up
[15:25] <dobey> CoZo: like i said, it's a hardware problem
[15:25] <vandenoever> now running "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --bootstrap" which does something
[15:25] <dobey> vandenoever: are you ok with losing all your data on the phone?
[15:26] <vandenoever> dobey: yes
[15:26] <pmcgowan> vandenoever, you need to get the latest package  from the ppa
[15:26] <pmcgowan> that version is too old
[15:46] <vandenoever> i've now upgraded ubuntu-device-flash to the latest version and booted to the ubuntu logo in recovery mode
[15:46] <vandenoever> unf the error is now '2015/12/16 16:45:41 Target device cannot be reached over adb'
[15:53] <vandenoever> ah, i need an adb-enabled image for the mx4
[16:16] <vandenoever> how long does recovery take? three small images have been pushed, the three large ones (57M, 69M, 282M) are still in progress it seems
[17:31]  * lotuspsychje just updates his Bq to OTA 8.5
[18:03] <k1l> systemupdate is the 8,5 update?
[18:04] <k1l> ah, it says in the topic :)
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> k1l: working like a charm here :p
[18:17] <ondra> Myself5 you can build ubuntu rootfs image straight from android tree now
[18:17] <ondra> Myself5 just call make ubunturootfsimage
[18:18] <ondra> Myself5 I will download tarballs from system image, unpacks them and then creates ext4 img file
[18:25] <dobey> does the camera app not use the microphone?
[20:34] <vandenoever> the browser on the ubuntu phone is crazy fast: very nice
[21:02] <mcphail> I look at unity running on this 21.5" monitor and wonder when the app will be coming to my 4.5" phone - http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car/ ;)
[22:30] <kowak> anyone know how to make wifi works on a new device without use insmod .../wlan.ko on terminal?
[22:39] <sturmflut> kowak: I would say either build the module into the kernel and not as a module, or load the module during init
[22:50] <jgdx> mzanetti, hey, what happens if I send 100 sms messages to my bq? does unity8 do anything to prevent 100 notifications from showing in succession?
[22:50] <mzanetti> jgdx, probably not... would need to check the code
[22:51] <jgdx> mzanetti, wouldn't unity8/postal office be the right place to deal with that problem?
[22:51] <jgdx> if not, every app have to deal with this themselves
[22:51] <jgdx> iiuic
[22:51] <mzanetti> yes, lp:unity-notifications is the place
[22:52] <mzanetti> there is some fancy queuing mechanism with priorities and whatnot
[22:52] <jgdx> okay, I'll test some stuff tomorrow morning and file a bug if I find crazy
[22:52] <mzanetti> however, I'm not sure right now if it has some DoS protection
[22:52] <jgdx> mzanetti, ack, thanks!