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jrwrenzomg t2 nano instances!02:08
rick_h_jrwren: :)02:17
cscheibany of you schmucks on a non-AT&T or VZW wireless carrier?  I'm told T-Mobile doesn't suck as much any more08:32
cscheibI have a fee-free exit to my contract w/ ATT available, investigating options08:32
cscheibinterested in hearing (recent) experiences, especially if you've taken it up north08:32
Scary_GuyI'm a former AT$T customer, fuck them, fuck them hard09:10
Scary_GuyVZW I view as the comcast of the cellphone world too09:11
Scary_GuyI moved the family to MetroPCS like two years ago and have never looked back.  They merged with TMO and they're basically two halves of the same coin at this point09:11
Scary_Guyhttp://opensignal.com before you move anywhere see where you travel and if you're covered09:12
Scary_GuyAlso, Metro usually have shit phones.  Get unlocked and use that.  Everything is GSM now too which is nice09:13
cscheibProbably buying a sim-free (i.e. unlocked) iphone 6s09:47
cscheibgonna do BYOD with one carrier or another09:47
cscheibATT is offering me a reasonable deal, and they're a known quantity, but I still wanna shop around09:47
cscheibgonna do apple's iphone upgrade program... so amortized phone cost, replace every year09:48
cscheibScary_Guy: have you traveled much through the state, how often do you NOT have signal09:51
Scary_GuyI haven't traveled much with metro09:53
Scary_Guythere's an event I do up by Houghton Lake.  The only people who ever have singal are verizon users09:54
Scary_GuyOSM is great for analysis though.  Especially if you don't trust the carriers coverage maps09:55
Scary_Guywhich I never do09:55
cscheibyea, I'll probably go with vzw, just because they've got that upper part of the state on lock10:02
Scary_Guywell you have to go to the absolute tip and it vanishes10:09
Scary_Guylike innawoods10:09
Scary_Guyin town I had 3g at least10:09
Scary_Guyalso I've heard that "verizon has the most nationwide coverage" is all just marketing and they all have pretty much the same10:10
Scary_Guyhence OSM, real data collected by users10:11
cscheibwell, Verizon's pretty dominant as #1 on the map :P10:27
cscheibtmo looks pretty weak in the boonies compared to ATT or VZW10:29
Scary_GuyI said I've heard, which means it could have been BS and research it :P10:32
Scary_GuyAlso, they may be #1 but I don't like their business practices so I avoid them.  I really like how the CEO of TMO operates10:32
cscheibthe nice thing about where I'm headed with this scenario is that I can switch carriers at any time10:47
cscheibof course, there'll be number porting costs, and activation fees10:47
cscheibbut I won't be encumbered by a contract, and can bring my phone anywhere10:47
Scary_Guyget a dual-sim phone10:47
cscheibmeh10:47
cscheibiphone only.10:48
Scary_Guyboo10:48
cscheibfits my usage perfectly10:48
cscheibplus, I love iMessage.10:48
cscheiband wifi calling from my laptop, etc...10:49
Scary_Guyalso it depends on your carrier.  sprint/vzw use CDMA and TMO/ATT use GSM (sim)10:49
Scary_Guyplus the rest of the world10:49
cscheibthe sim-free iphone's got the super radio that does just about everything10:50
cscheib6s that is, the 6 is missing a band or two10:50
Scary_GuyI just want something that will run #replicant10:51
cscheibnever used it10:54
cscheibmy experiences with Android have been mostly negative at worst, neutral at best10:54
Scary_Guywhen was the last time you used it?10:55
cscheibwell, most recently a Fire tablet, but parents and relatives have android phones I refuse to support10:56
Scary_Guypretty much how I feel about mac stuff :P  But yeah, fire is crap10:57
Scary_Guymost android is crap, only the high end devices are good usually10:58
Scary_Guynexus is the best, no carrier bloat10:58
Scary_Guygoogle bloat but you can get rid of that if you want10:58
Scary_Guycustom ROMs etc...10:58
cscheiblack of rapid model iteration is good for me in this context :P10:59
cscheiband I like the value retention of iDevices11:00
cscheibgonna sell my 6 for like 400 probably, heh11:01
cscheibwhich'll go a long way toward a 6s (espeically if I go with the monthly payment prog)11:01
Scary_GuyI paid 200 for my 1+1, I'm pretty happy11:02
cmaloneyMorning13:48
rick_h_morning13:48
cmaloneycscheib: I'm on Sprint via Ting13:48
cmaloneyIf you like CDMA they're awesome.13:48
cmaloneyAlthough Ting have partnered with a GSM carrier13:48
cmaloneythat is undisclosed but likely TMO13:49
cmaloneyhttp://www.ford.com/server-status14:22
_stink_yeah14:55
_stink_weird14:55
brouschhttp://makeit.netflix.com/15:37
jrwrenbrousch: awesome15:38
cmaloneyUnrelated, I really hate ODBC16:08
jrwren:)16:09
jrwrenwindows odbc or other?16:09
cmaloneyUNIX16:12
cmaloneyThough Windows ODBC is a pain as well16:12
brouschYou're making my eye twitch. I never got ODBC on Linux to work16:12
jrwrenyuck16:12
cmaloneyI understand the concept and I can appreciate how it should worl16:13
cmaloneywork16:13
cmaloneybut it's made of pain and secret handshake configuration16:13
cmaloneyand isn't remotely obvious16:13
cmaloney(I'm sure someone could say the same is true for MySQL / PostgreSQL)16:13
brouschI like pypyodbc on Windows16:13
cmaloneyBut at least I can replicate it16:14
cmaloneyAnd here's where I find the damn driver that I thought was covered by the 15 other packages16:16
cmaloney*sigh*16:16
cmaloneyand now to put the paths into some configuration file because ini files are superior to library paths16:17
cmaloneyDatabases: not even once.16:20

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