[02:08] <jrwren> zomg t2 nano instances!
[02:17] <rick_h_> jrwren: :)
[08:32] <cscheib> any of you schmucks on a non-AT&T or VZW wireless carrier?  I'm told T-Mobile doesn't suck as much any more
[08:32] <cscheib> I have a fee-free exit to my contract w/ ATT available, investigating options
[08:32] <cscheib> interested in hearing (recent) experiences, especially if you've taken it up north
[09:10] <Scary_Guy> I'm a former AT$T customer, fuck them, fuck them hard
[09:11] <Scary_Guy> VZW I view as the comcast of the cellphone world too
[09:11] <Scary_Guy> I moved the family to MetroPCS like two years ago and have never looked back.  They merged with TMO and they're basically two halves of the same coin at this point
[09:12] <Scary_Guy> http://opensignal.com before you move anywhere see where you travel and if you're covered
[09:13] <Scary_Guy> Also, Metro usually have shit phones.  Get unlocked and use that.  Everything is GSM now too which is nice
[09:47] <cscheib> Probably buying a sim-free (i.e. unlocked) iphone 6s
[09:47] <cscheib> gonna do BYOD with one carrier or another
[09:47] <cscheib> ATT is offering me a reasonable deal, and they're a known quantity, but I still wanna shop around
[09:48] <cscheib> gonna do apple's iphone upgrade program... so amortized phone cost, replace every year
[09:51] <cscheib> Scary_Guy: have you traveled much through the state, how often do you NOT have signal
[09:53] <Scary_Guy> I haven't traveled much with metro
[09:54] <Scary_Guy> there's an event I do up by Houghton Lake.  The only people who ever have singal are verizon users
[09:55] <Scary_Guy> OSM is great for analysis though.  Especially if you don't trust the carriers coverage maps
[09:55] <Scary_Guy> which I never do
[10:02] <cscheib> yea, I'll probably go with vzw, just because they've got that upper part of the state on lock
[10:09] <Scary_Guy> well you have to go to the absolute tip and it vanishes
[10:09] <Scary_Guy> like innawoods
[10:09] <Scary_Guy> in town I had 3g at least
[10:10] <Scary_Guy> also I've heard that "verizon has the most nationwide coverage" is all just marketing and they all have pretty much the same
[10:11] <Scary_Guy> hence OSM, real data collected by users
[10:27] <cscheib> well, Verizon's pretty dominant as #1 on the map :P
[10:29] <cscheib> tmo looks pretty weak in the boonies compared to ATT or VZW
[10:32] <Scary_Guy> I said I've heard, which means it could have been BS and research it :P
[10:32] <Scary_Guy> Also, they may be #1 but I don't like their business practices so I avoid them.  I really like how the CEO of TMO operates
[10:47] <cscheib> the nice thing about where I'm headed with this scenario is that I can switch carriers at any time
[10:47] <cscheib> of course, there'll be number porting costs, and activation fees
[10:47] <cscheib> but I won't be encumbered by a contract, and can bring my phone anywhere
[10:47] <Scary_Guy> get a dual-sim phone
[10:47] <cscheib> meh
[10:48] <cscheib> iphone only.
[10:48] <Scary_Guy> boo
[10:48] <cscheib> fits my usage perfectly
[10:48] <cscheib> plus, I love iMessage.
[10:49] <cscheib> and wifi calling from my laptop, etc...
[10:49] <Scary_Guy> also it depends on your carrier.  sprint/vzw use CDMA and TMO/ATT use GSM (sim)
[10:49] <Scary_Guy> plus the rest of the world
[10:50] <cscheib> the sim-free iphone's got the super radio that does just about everything
[10:50] <cscheib> 6s that is, the 6 is missing a band or two
[10:51] <Scary_Guy> I just want something that will run #replicant
[10:54] <cscheib> never used it
[10:54] <cscheib> my experiences with Android have been mostly negative at worst, neutral at best
[10:55] <Scary_Guy> when was the last time you used it?
[10:56] <cscheib> well, most recently a Fire tablet, but parents and relatives have android phones I refuse to support
[10:57] <Scary_Guy> pretty much how I feel about mac stuff :P  But yeah, fire is crap
[10:58] <Scary_Guy> most android is crap, only the high end devices are good usually
[10:58] <Scary_Guy> nexus is the best, no carrier bloat
[10:58] <Scary_Guy> google bloat but you can get rid of that if you want
[10:58] <Scary_Guy> custom ROMs etc...
[10:59] <cscheib> lack of rapid model iteration is good for me in this context :P
[11:00] <cscheib> and I like the value retention of iDevices
[11:01] <cscheib> gonna sell my 6 for like 400 probably, heh
[11:01] <cscheib> which'll go a long way toward a 6s (espeically if I go with the monthly payment prog)
[11:02] <Scary_Guy> I paid 200 for my 1+1, I'm pretty happy
[13:48] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:48] <rick_h_> morning
[13:48] <cmaloney> cscheib: I'm on Sprint via Ting
[13:48] <cmaloney> If you like CDMA they're awesome.
[13:48] <cmaloney> Although Ting have partnered with a GSM carrier
[13:49] <cmaloney> that is undisclosed but likely TMO
[14:22] <cmaloney> http://www.ford.com/server-status
[14:55] <_stink_> yeah
[14:55] <_stink_> weird
[15:37] <brousch> http://makeit.netflix.com/
[15:38] <jrwren> brousch: awesome
[16:08] <cmaloney> Unrelated, I really hate ODBC
[16:09] <jrwren> :)
[16:09] <jrwren> windows odbc or other?
[16:12] <cmaloney> UNIX
[16:12] <cmaloney> Though Windows ODBC is a pain as well
[16:12] <brousch> You're making my eye twitch. I never got ODBC on Linux to work
[16:12] <jrwren> yuck
[16:13] <cmaloney> I understand the concept and I can appreciate how it should worl
[16:13] <cmaloney> work
[16:13] <cmaloney> but it's made of pain and secret handshake configuration
[16:13] <cmaloney> and isn't remotely obvious
[16:13] <cmaloney> (I'm sure someone could say the same is true for MySQL / PostgreSQL)
[16:13] <brousch> I like pypyodbc on Windows
[16:14] <cmaloney> But at least I can replicate it
[16:16] <cmaloney> And here's where I find the damn driver that I thought was covered by the 15 other packages
[16:16] <cmaloney> *sigh*
[16:17] <cmaloney> and now to put the paths into some configuration file because ini files are superior to library paths
[16:20] <cmaloney> Databases: not even once.