[00:00] <TJ-> euviuss_: Because I can't see the screens the Setup will display though, you'll have to use your Sherlock Holmes abilities to figure these things out. 1. Goto the Security tab and see if there is some kind of 'Security' option. If there is, from what I read, that needs enabling (maybe set a password) in order to make some other settings configurable! 2. Then, on other tab(s) disable Secure Boot and Fast Boot.
[00:00] <TJ->  3. It is possible, near the SecureBoot option, there is another option about 'Trusting' modules. When selected it opens a file-chooser in the EFI System Partition. If this is the case, navigate to the \EFI\ubuntu\ directory and mark grubx64.efy and shimx64.efi as trusted. Then save settings and exit Setup and try letting it boot. It may not at this point and you'll then need to reboot using the Live ISO so
[00:00] <TJ-> we can redo the chroot and do another 'grub-install' - you might want to copy these instructions / print them !!
[00:01] <TJ-> euviuss_: typo" grubx64.efy should be grubx64.efi
[00:03] <k1l_> wad: show the whole output in a pastebin
[00:03] <wad> Okay, I'm still trying stuff. 1 sec.
[00:04] <euviuss_> meh, freenode is hard to connect to.  ok
[00:04] <euviuss_> TJ-, ok i think i have it memorized
[00:06] <wad> k1l_, Here it is: http://pastebin.com/RuCgfTp9
[00:07] <wad> k1l_, and it's stuck again. :(
[00:07] <k1l_> wad: how long did you wait?
[00:07] <wad> In the past, 12 hours.
[00:08] <wad> This time I haven't waited more than just maybe 3 minutes.
[00:08] <wad> I'm letting it sit right now.
[00:10] <wad> I've been killing processes.
[00:10] <k1l_> wad: something like 3 mins should be enough if its not too slow hardware. is that some sort of special setup with disks?
[00:10] <wad> All that's running now is xchat, htop, and this stuck update.
[00:11] <wad> Nope, just 1 2TB SATA disk.
[00:11] <wad> Not even dual boot, only ubuntu.
[00:11] <wad> Thanks for taking the time to help me. :)
[00:12] <wad> I'm going to close this terminal window to stop the process.
[00:12] <wad> killed
[00:12] <k1l_> maybe try to stop/kill it, then run sudo dpkg --configure -a first
[00:12] <wad> ok
[00:12] <wad> I have to clean out some locks, 1 sec.
[00:13] <wad> Okay, I ran that.
[00:13] <k1l_> run "sudo update-grub" before the dpkg cmmand
[00:13] <wad> ok, doing it.
[00:14] <wad> That worked.
[00:14] <k1l_> done sudo dpkg --configure -a too?
[00:14] <wad> yes
[00:14] <wad> I'll do it again....
[00:15] <wad> Shall I do "apt-get install -f"?
[00:15] <k1l_> after that run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (will not upgrade to a new ubuntu release)
[00:15] <wad> ok
[00:16] <Euvius> TJ-  thanks! it booted.  i forgot to do that one step   grubx64.efi  . what do i do with that again
[00:16] <wad> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[00:16] <wad> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:16] <wad> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[00:16] <wad> I'll get rid of that lock file....
[00:16] <good_chatter> Hi
[00:17] <wad> And it's back to "Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.6) ...". :(
[00:17] <TJ-> Euvius: you mean the system booted into the installed system OK?
[00:18] <Euvius> there was a black screen for a little while, but im assuming thats an first-time startup thing
[00:18] <Euvius> otherwise it worked after i did those 2 security settings.  but i forgot what to do with  grubx64.efi
[00:19] <wad> Some googles gave me this, I'm gonna try it next: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:19] <Euvius> i disabled fast booting and secure boting
[00:19] <TJ-> Euvius: black screen during boot sounds like a relatively common issue we see where the GPU can't be driven during early kernel boot-time.
[00:19] <TJ-> Euvius: if it has booted then that step is not needed.
[00:19] <k1l_> wad: did you run "sudo update-grub already? i am not sure what commands you ran now
[00:19] <TJ-> Euvius: I read that the wifi won't work by default due to some module option being required. Is wifi working?
[00:19] <Euvius> ok, thanks a ton.  i really appreciate the help
[00:20] <Euvius> i dont use wifi
[00:20] <wad> k1l_, Yes, I ran that.
[00:20] <wad> It was happy with that.
[00:20] <TJ-> Euvius: OK, but it would be good to check it!
[00:20] <TJ-> Euvius: do "rfkill list"
[00:20] <Euvius> ok
[00:20] <wad> I'll do it again.
[00:20] <TJ-> Euvius: does it report the Wifi as Hard Blocked, or Soft Blocked?
[00:21] <Euvius> all no
[00:21] <x0rs> On my apache2 webserver anyone know how to respond 200 to my AWS ELB health check?
[00:21] <TJ-> Euvius: Fab, then it looks OK
[00:21] <Euvius> yay
[00:21] <wad> I tried "apt-get install -f" to fix it, but it still hangs at the same place.
[00:26] <ana_> #ubuntu
[00:27] <daftykins> ana_: yes you're in it!
[00:28] <k1l_> wad: can you pastebin a "sudo update-grub"?
[00:28] <wad> sure
[00:29] <slidinghorn> one minor success at a time, right?
[00:30] <wad> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/6efsXnUG
[00:30] <ana_> i can not install/remove any software. autoclean/autoremove doesnt work. try to use -finstall and it says broken pipe and full disk. ive try to use purge the images and i cant. here is my -f install http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041041/ and my df -h http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041056/
[00:30] <Euvius> whose
[00:31] <k1l_> wad: hmm, the warning there should not be an issue
[00:31] <TJ-> wad: try "sudo apt-get -o Debug::RunScripts=true -f" might reveal something
[00:31] <wad> ok
[00:31] <k1l_> wad: what gives you "ls -al /etc/grub.d/README" ?
[00:32] <k1l_> ana_: is "df -i" full?
[00:32] <Bashing-om> k1l_: wad . Update ? my system " sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-71-generic " .
[00:33] <wad> k1l_, It doesn't like the -f in the command you gave me.
[00:33] <ana_> kll, yes http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041089/
[00:33] <k1l_> wad: <k1l_> wad: what gives you "ls -al /etc/grub.d/README" ?   no -f involved
[00:33] <wad> cd
[00:33] <wad> root@ericw:~# ls -al /etc/grub.d/README
[00:33] <wad> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 483 Dec 15 09:09 /etc/grub.d/README
[00:34] <k1l_> ana_: there you go. too much small files stored.
[00:34] <daftykins> ana_: you need to remove some old linux-headers packages, that'll recover inodes
[00:34] <daftykins> ana_: dpkg -l | grep linux-
[00:34] <ana_> ive try to use purge to the images but it does not work
[00:34] <ana_> how i purge the headers.
[00:35] <daftykins> show a paste of the above and we'll get to that.
[00:35] <ana_> a lot, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041129/
[00:35] <TJ-> ana_: k1l_ daftykins note there are two file-systems mounted as / there. one small, one larger
[00:36] <ana_> so, what to do?
[00:36] <TJ-> ana_: "pastebinit <( cat /proc/mounts )"
[00:37] <daftykins> hmm that's a weird one!
[00:37] <daftykins> my tired eyes did not register that :>
[00:37] <wad> k1l_, looks like README is not executable.
[00:38] <k1l_> wad: yes, that is ok.
[00:38] <ana_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041162/
[00:38] <wad> I'm trying this now: grub-install /dev/sda
[00:38] <wad> I'm going to reboot.
[00:39] <TJ-> ana_: the entire command inside the double-quotes: "pastebinit <( cat /proc/mounts )"
[00:42] <ana_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041197/
[00:43] <daftykins> how about just "cat /proc/mounts" then pastebin manually?
[00:43] <daftykins> or did it do as the last paste?
[00:43] <TJ-> ana ^^^^
[00:43] <TJ-> ana, I didn't realise your package manager was so broken
[00:44] <holucon> hi guise
[00:44] <Yuken> Is it possible to have a script that automatically makes a copy of a file after a change has been made to it?
[00:45] <holucon> Yuken, yes it is
[00:45] <reza_sam_> hi all
[00:45] <ana_> what can i do?
[00:45] <holucon> do you know what either of the before or after expected values are?
[00:45] <Yuken> holucon, expected values of what? File size, file name, etc etc?
[00:46] <mcphail> Yuken: you may want to have a look at incrontab, which can monitor files/directories for changes and trigger scripts
[00:46] <holucon> you said modify
[00:46] <daftykins> ana_: can you share /etc/fstab ?
[00:46] <daftykins> ana_: also "sudo blkid"
[00:47] <Yuken> One more question: what exactly would I do to get a script that would automatically do a task, every 15 minutes? I know it is simple, but I can't access any proper web browsers right now.
[00:47] <Yuken> mcphail, thank you for that info, I'll look at it.
[00:47] <Yuken> holucon, this is for a game I am hosting, where I want admin logs to be publicly available on my website - copying the log over every time a change is made (as I do not want the game files in that directory).
[00:47] <ana_> sudo blkid http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041238/
[00:48] <holucon> mcphail, You'd be better of coding the game to read the file....
[00:48] <holucon> coding the site*
[00:49] <wad> k1l_, I FIXED IT!!
[00:49] <wad> The problem was Virtualbox.
[00:49] <mcphail> Yuken: for your other query, have a look at crontab (rather than incrontab) which will trigger events at certain times. See "man 5 crontab" for guidance
[00:49] <wad> I uninstalled that, purged it from the machine, and grub healed itself in the process. :-D
[00:49] <daftykins> ana_: tell me if this succeeds: "sudo dpkg -r linux-headers-3.13.0-33"
[00:49] <wad> Thanks for your help, and Merry Christmas and all that!
[00:49]  * wad goes home
[00:49] <Yuken> mcphail, would I need root access to do what I'm asking?
[00:50] <Yuken> holucon, ... I really am dumb, why didn't I think of that :o
[00:50] <TJ-> ana_: can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts"
[00:51] <mcphail> Yuken: I think you need to be root to alter a config file to allow your user to run incrontab (and to add your user to the appropriate group). You don't need root at all for crontab
[00:52] <ana_> daft, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041309/
[00:52] <daftykins> ana_: ah that's fine, repeat the command with the -generic package named, then do it as i said
[00:52] <Yuken> mcphail, thanks for the information, it's appreciated. Players would have an outrage if they couldn't see admin logs, because my fellow mods could be doing some sketchy stuff.
[00:53] <ana_> TJ, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041322/
[00:53] <holucon> Yuken, no idea haha, but really, having the file read by the site would be better.
[00:53] <daftykins> ana_: so sudo dpkg -r linux-headers-3.13.0-33-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-33
[00:53] <Yuken> holucon, only problem is, it saves it as a .log file, instead of plain text.
[00:54] <holucon> a .log is plain text
[00:54] <holucon> just because it has a different extension, doesnt mean its not readable as plain text
[00:54] <Yuken> holucon, I know, but it refuses to be read by the game's in-game browser, or Firefox.
[00:54] <Yuken> holucon, so palyers would have to download the file then open it with a tool, which is inconvenient.
[00:54] <holucon> couldnt you just copy the log every 15 seconds to a different filename
[00:54] <ana_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041360/
[00:55] <holucon> open it with a tool...notepad? haha
[00:55] <Yuken> holucon, that was actually my plan, when I asked to copy it whenever it was modified.
[00:55] <daftykins> ana_: repeat that for -34, -35... up to -40
[00:55] <ana_> oh
[00:55] <holucon> just copy it ever 15 seconds instead of doing 'on modify'
[00:56] <holucon> unless you find something that offers changes tracking
[00:56] <holucon> which yuken suggested
[00:56] <Yuken> holucon, I'll try that out, should work. No reason why I'm asking, but wish to see the website? I just like showing it around :p
[00:56] <holucon> which mcphail * suggested
[00:56] <mcphail> Yuken: holucon: whilst that is an option, it is ugly and inefficient compared to using inotify (incrontab)
[00:57] <holucon> mcphail, well its not being done right from the getgo :P
[00:57] <Yuken> mcphail, I'm probably going to do what holucon suggested until I can contact the owner to allow me to use incrontab.
[00:57] <holucon> Yuken, can you make the game log it as a .txt?
[00:57] <ana_> error, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041405/
[00:57] <Yuken> holucon, sadly, no. If it were my game, yes.
[00:57] <mcphail> Yuken: fair enough :)
[00:57] <daftykins> ana_: you only changed the number on one of two
[00:59] <welovfree> How can I install silverlight on Ubuntu
[00:59] <daftykins> welovfree: what's the real goal? netflix?
[01:00] <welovfree> no, beinsports
[01:00] <welovfree> daftykins,
[01:00] <daftykins> i don't know what that is, i'll assume a website or service
[01:00] <nicomachus> uses Flash on Chrome.
[01:00] <nicomachus> fyi
[01:00] <daftykins> i think pipelight used to be what folks tried to use, but i think you'll have a hell of a time
[01:01] <welovfree> daftykins, sport channels
[01:01] <nicomachus> welovfree: what browser are you using?
[01:01] <welovfree> daftykins, airing football matches and nba...etc
[01:01] <kush_> lo
[01:01] <Ghost_r00t> what package should I install to have shared folder with vbox?
[01:01] <welovfree> nicomachus, firefox
[01:01] <kush_> does anyone know how to run league of legends on ubuntu mate
[01:02] <daftykins> kush_: job for wine i would imagine
[01:02] <Yuken> kush_, I've heard reports of WINE running it successfully.
[01:02] <welovfree> nicomachus, daftykins using ubuntu as vm by the way
[01:02] <nicomachus> welovfree: hmm... it doesn't require silverlight for me, I'm not having any trouble watching videos. Can you send me a specific link that's giving you trouble?
[01:02] <Yuken> kush_, I'd ask over at #winehq
[01:02] <daftykins> welovfree: nasty, why are you doing this then?
[01:02] <welovfree> nicomachus, http://embratoria.com/
[01:03] <ana_> only the 38 didnt work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041534/
[01:03] <welovfree> daftykins, what?
[01:03] <Ghost_r00t> ?
[01:03] <kush_> league on this os?
[01:03] <dbarros> does /boot still need to be the first partition (on a GPT or MBR layout)?
[01:03] <slidinghorn> !wine | kush_
[01:04] <daftykins> ana_: so now you should have some inodes free with "df -i" ?
[01:04] <TJ-> dbarros: no, but it doesn't want to be 4TB in, either!
[01:04] <nicomachus> welovfree: seems to be playing as HTML5 for me.
[01:04] <dbarros> TJ-, you mean, if the drive is over 4TB, then it needs to be the first?
[01:04] <welovfree> nicomachus, click on one of HD1 to HD16 logos
[01:04] <DirtyCajun> do you think this raid controller will work with ubuntu? http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SATA-PCI-X-Ports-Controller/dp/B002C0Y5X4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450227673&sr=1-2&keywords=SATA+PCI-X+Host+Card
[01:05] <welovfree> nicomachus, those are ones requiring silverlight
[01:05] <ana_> yes 81% now
[01:05] <daftykins> ana_: do i understand correctly you were trying to install the utopic HWE before this started? it's old now, so i would not bother
[01:05] <dewwii> DirtyCajun: it's not a hardware raid card. it will probably work, but you're better off using mdadm
[01:06] <TJ-> dbarros: GRUB runs in x86 real mode, and uses 32-bit values, so it cannot reach the entire disk on larger disks, so the core image (BIOS boot partition) and file-system containing /boot/grub/ needs to be within the limit
[01:06] <DirtyCajun> i dont intend to use it as hardware raid just need more sata ports i ran out XD
[01:06] <daftykins> DirtyCajun: PCI-X is 64-bit PCI, it'd be a mistake to buy that
[01:06] <DirtyCajun> perfect thank you
[01:06] <ana_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.co know m/14041664/. I dont
[01:06] <ana_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041664/    . i dont know
[01:06] <ana_> so, there is nothing to do now?
[01:06] <nicomachus> welovfree: ahh... I see.... hmm..
[01:07] <welovfree> nicomachus, http://prntscr.com/9eos1q
[01:07] <daftykins> ana_: the -## you removed before, now remove the linux-image-extra package for those numbers followed by the linux-image ones
[01:08] <nicomachus> welovfree: If you *must* watch via that player, I think pipelight is your best bet. install instructions are here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/611505/alternative-of-microsoft-silverlight-on-ubuntu
[01:08] <ana_> with the comand of purge?
[01:08] <daftykins> ana_: no, with "sudo dpkg -r <package name>" as before
[01:09] <daftykins> ana_: get rid of linux-generic-lts-quantal too
[01:09] <welovfree> nicomachus, I have to exit firefox before starting the installation right?
[01:09] <ana_> in <package name> goes linux-image?
[01:10] <nicomachus> welovfree: shouldn't matter.
[01:10] <nicomachus> just may need to refresh the page afterwards
[01:10] <daftykins> ana_: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041129/ for reference, look down the list and find the ones that have -33 etc like earlier that you removed, there are still the ones beginning linux-image-extra... and linux-image...
[01:14] <welovfree> nicomachus, when running this command "sudo apt-get install pipelight" I get this error http://prntscr.com/9eou5j
[01:15] <slidinghorn> welovfree: exit synaptic or any other package management application you have open (even in terminals)
[01:15] <nicomachus> welovfree: looks like you're installing/upgrading software in another terminal?
[01:16] <welovfree> slidinghorn, nicomachus, how can I exit?
[01:19] <nicomachus> exit what?
[01:19] <welovfree> nicomachus, exit synaptic or any other package management application you have open (even in terminals) as slidinghorn told
[01:20] <nicomachus> do you have anything else open?
[01:20] <ana_> is this ok? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14042113/
[01:21] <nicomachus> looks ok to me.
[01:21] <nicomachus> but I'm not sure what daftykins is having you do.
[01:21] <welovfree> nicomachus, I don't know
[01:22] <welovfree> nicomachus, is restarting the vm gonna help?
[01:22] <nicomachus> welovfree: that would do it. you can also just log out and log back in, without restarting the VM
[01:23] <welovfree> nicomachus, I already did it but the error still outputing
[01:23] <welovfree> nicomachus, I am really sorry if I am wasting your time
[01:24] <nicomachus> ha, you're not wasting my time.
[01:24] <Bashing-om> ana_: Yeah, OK, keep on going .. just the system rebuilding at each removal .. a long process that will have an end .
[01:24] <ana_> until 40?
[01:24] <nicomachus> welovfree: go ahead and reboot the VM just to be safe.
[01:24] <slidinghorn> welovfree: youre not wasting anynes time....we are here as volunteers for just this kind of thing
[01:25] <nicomachus> just here to learn. oddly enough helping others helps me learn. so I'm using you. :)
[01:25] <Bashing-om> ana_: Not sure .. I wiped your 1st paste . do ' uname -r ' keep that kerenl and the one under it for now .
[01:25] <welovfree> slidinghorn, thank you guys you are great
[01:25] <slidinghorn> nicomachu same here lol
[01:26] <ana_> Bashing, mybe you have to see this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14041129/
[01:26] <welovfree> nicomachus, yeah as long as I am getting the help I want you are free to use me LOOOL
[01:27] <nicomachus> reboot that VM and see if it kills whatever's using dpkg
[01:28] <welovfree> nicomachus, I run this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and it did the job, but how can I validate this http://prntscr.com/9eoy3x
[01:28] <nicomachus> TAB to highlight it, then ENTER
[01:28] <welovfree> nicomachus, I did it after the reboot
[01:29] <Bashing-om> ana_: Lots of old kernels .. do ' uname -r ' that is the presentt booted kernel . Do not mess with this ine ! You will in the end here wind up with the -68 and -71 kernles remaining . A long way to go yet .. and then some additional installs and finally some clean up . hang with it !
[01:30] <Bashing-om> ana_: ine/one *
[01:30] <GladiaTeur> what's all this lines trying to do and what that mean https://dpaste.de/utRu/raw
[01:30] <anabain> what is my best bet to avoid nfs "client" box hanging when the nfs "server" is shutdown?
[01:30] <ana_> thi is the uname -r http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14042443/
[01:30] <anabain> maybe autofs?
[01:31] <ana_> what is ine/one*
[01:31] <nicomachus> ana_: he typed ine, he meant to type one.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> ana_: Great .. there are some problems with the -71 install we will fix later . continue on .. keeping the -68 and -71 kernels .
[01:32] <welovfree> nicomachus, do pipelight work the same as what wine do for windows softwares?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> ana_: ine/one * denotes a corrected typo in my last entry .
[01:33] <ana_> so i keep doing this untill 70?
[01:33] <nicomachus> welovfree: I believe pipelight is just a re-write of silverlight.
[01:33] <ana_> oh, ok i udestand
[01:33] <Bashing-om> ana_: untill -68 !
[01:33] <ana_> oh
[01:33] <ana_> ok
[01:34] <ana_> when i was removing the headers i did until 40, so i have to remove those until 68 as well?
[01:34] <welovfree> nicomachus, a re-write of the source code so that it can be used on Linux sys
[01:36] <welovfree> nicomachus, what is this http://prntscr.com/9ep0gv
[01:36] <welovfree> nicomachus, can I just exit it?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> ana_: If it is any consolation to you, once we have this fixed in the future one command will take care of all of this .
[01:38] <welovfree> nicomachus, worked! (y)
[01:38] <nicomachus> oh, I suppose it is just piping silverlight through wine. cool. does the video play now?
[01:39] <welovfree> nicomachus, it seems like wine is interfering here http://prntscr.com/9ep0gv  ??!!
[01:40] <nicomachus> that's ok, wait for it to finish
[01:40] <welovfree> nicomachus, yeah worked!, but what does wine do here?
[01:42] <DirtyCajun> ive installed a new ethernet card in my existing ubuntu server and it isnt active. it only shows when i ifconfig -a
[01:45] <DirtyCajun> any idea how to 'enable' for lack of a better word?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> DirtyCajun: server : edit /etc/network/interfaces to reflect the niw interface ,
[01:46] <Bashing-om> new*
[01:47] <DirtyCajun> duh. im dumb. do i just create another section with a #
[01:48] <Bashing-om> DirtyCajun: No where it is eth0 change it to eth1 . ( make a back up of any fike you are going to edit 1st - never can tell what might happen ) .
[01:48] <DirtyCajun> i am going to keep both of them
[01:49] <DirtyCajun> i am going to aggrigate
[01:49] <Bashing-om> DirtyCajun: Yeah then fine . make up a new stanza for the new interface .
[01:52] <Bashing-om> DirtyCajun: However, if on this server you have polluted it with a desk top and have network-manager managing networking . well ,, these should be done in that GUI manager . huh ?
[01:54] <welovfree> nicomachus, what is the difference between moonlight and pipelight?
[01:54] <nicomachus> welovfree: I couldn't tell you.
[01:54] <nicomachus> sorry
[01:54] <xangua> welovfree: moonlight is dead
[01:54] <welovfree> xangua, ok
[01:55] <welovfree> xangua, an old project
[01:55] <DirtyCajun> i have not bash
[01:55] <xangua> moonlight was an opensource implementation of microsoft silverlight plugin
[01:55] <DirtyCajun> XD
[01:55] <welovfree> xangua, and what about pipelight?
[01:56] <xangua> welovfree: pipelight runs silverlight and other plugins in wine
[01:57] <welovfree> nicomachus, told me it's a re-write of silverlight?§
[01:57] <welovfree> !
[01:57] <welovfree> xangua, nicomachus told me it's a re-write of silverlight
[01:58] <EmeraldExplorer> I tried to convert mysql -> mariadb, however it didnt work properly... while I am doing this is there anyway to backup mysql databases ( neither mysql nor mariadb are working right now)
[01:58] <xangua> http://pipelight.net/cms/about.html welovfree
[02:01] <welovfree> xangua, that's what I thought from the first, it uses wine, because while downloading I saw some .exe files downloading and I wondered!! and yeah it's wine
[02:02] <nicomachus> welovfree: apparently I was wrong. that's only the hundrenth or so time today.
[02:03] <welovfree> nicomachus, yeah it seems like you were, but thank you for helping me out!
[02:04] <DirtyCajun> so balance-alb is the equivilant of 2x 1gbps interfaces trunked together with max out at 2gbps?
[02:07] <welovfree> xangua, why I am not getting a proper full screen?
[02:08] <xangua> welovfree: don't know, I don't use pipelight
[02:08] <welovfree> nicomachus, why I am not getting a proper full screen?
[02:09] <welovfree> xangua, are they having a channel here in freenode?
[02:10] <xangua> welovfree: http://pipelight.net/cms/page-help.html read the bottom, also there is something about fullscreen there
[02:10] <welovfree> xangua, thanks
[02:13] <rahuldev> morning
[02:13] <EmeraldExplorer> mysql is really messed up after I installed mariadb (and it didn't work) ... how could I start over on mariadb and import a database?
[02:13] <EmeraldExplorer> (a folder I copied from /var/lib/mysql )
[02:14] <rahuldev> anyone please tell me, "fdisk -l" gives list of partition, there is also option of "-L" "--color" how can I use it with fdisk?
[02:15] <DirtyCajun> is there an intelligent way to test and see if nic teaming is working as intended?
[02:15] <nicomachus> DirtyCajun: do a speedtest and see if your speed is doubled?
[02:15] <DirtyCajun> you are kidding right?
[02:16] <nicomachus> ok, I won't offer any advice at all. my bad.
[02:16] <nicomachus> this is #ubuntu, not ##networking.
[02:16] <DirtyCajun> nichomachus. 1gbps is the speed of a single ethernet cable. that is faster than 99 percent of peoples internet providers speeds
[02:17] <DirtyCajun> if bonding worked id be at a theoretical 2gbps.
[02:17] <DirtyCajun> basically the internet provider would be the bottleneck
[02:17] <anabain> How can I check if autofs is still broken in 15.10?
[02:18] <nicomachus> DirtyCajun: I'd suggest ##networking.
[02:24] <slidinghorn> wow....a lot of snark being thrown around from folks looking for free support from volunteers who are soending their free time helping out.........
[02:24] <schizo101> isnt that how all volunteer work is
[02:24] <nicomachus> let's stay on topic.
[02:26] <slidinghorn> schizo101: this is the only "volunteer" work ive done where its beneficiaries tossed shade, but nicomachus is right...we're off topic....sorry
[02:30] <anabain> let's try again then: is autofs broken on 15.10?
[02:31] <slidinghorn> anabain: what makes you raise the question? What particular error(s) are you getting?
[02:31] <anabain> slidinghorn, I'm getting nothing, that's the problem
[02:31] <anabain> I've setup things as explained here:
[02:32] <anabain> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[02:32] <noob_> on xubuntu and iusing urxvt-unicode (256) and i just can get perls to work specifically the copy and paste function...
[02:33] <anabain> slidinghorn: for nfs, and after    service autofs restart  or /etc/init.d/autofs restart  I don't get anything on my mounting dir
[02:35] <anabain> slidinghorn, and mounting through etc/fstab does work:
[02:36] <anabain> 192.168.1.34:/   /home/joan/deuteros   nfs4    _netdev,auto  0  0
[02:37] <anabain> slidinghorn, and this does not look well:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs
[02:37] <welovfree> which of vim and emacs do you guys recommend for learning?
[02:38] <slidinghorn> anabain: unfortunately im away from my systems...on my phone, but posting a pastebin of your fstab and any configs related to autofs would help with your question for ithers more qualified/prepared :)
[02:39] <OerHeks> vim or emacs .. https://xkcd.com/378/
[02:39] <anabain> ok, slidinghorn , thanks anyway, :)
[02:40] <zykotick9> welovfree: learn a real editor, vim or emacs, choose one ;)
[02:42] <slidinghorn> welovfree: vi/vim & emacs have a steeper learning curve, but youd be smart to start playing with either. Cheat sheets are available everywhere
[02:43] <welovfree> zykotick9, what do you mean by "learn a real editor"? aren't those two real ones?
[02:44] <zykotick9> welovfree: vim and emacs _are_ the two choices for a "real editor"...
[02:45] <welovfree> zykotick9, I am currently using sublimetext seems good but wanna lean somethings really good
[02:45] <nicomachus> welovfree: there are plenty of choices for editors, all have + and -. Try a few, see what you like. I prefer nano for simple stuff, so apparently I don't do anything "real".
[02:45] <Guddu_> I am using Ubuntu Guest and Windows 7 host. I keep getting the "Headers for current kernel not found" error when installing GuestBox additions
[02:45] <Guddu_> Could someone help me
[02:45] <Guddu_> i have already installed generic-headers but it still errors out.
[02:46] <nicomachus> Guddu_: did you install dkms?
[02:46] <Guddu_> nicomachus, Yes i did.
[02:52] <nicomachus> after that you should just be able to download the GuestAdditions.iso onto the windows host, then select "Insert Guest Additions CD Image" from the dropdown on Virtualbox, then it will mount the CD and you can click it in your menu and it will run.
[02:52] <nicomachus> how are you getting "Headers for current kernel not found"? at what step?
[02:54] <Guddu_> nicomachus, The errors comes just when i install the GuestAdditions
[02:54] <nguyenquan> hi
[02:56] <nicomachus> Guddu_: can you paste the full error to a pastebin and link it here?
[02:56] <chull> i don't know what broke but hubby can't get his cairo-dock working. in ubuntu 14.04
[02:57] <nicomachus> Guddu_: also, what version of ubuntu is the guest?
[02:57] <nicomachus> chull: he tries to start it and it doesn't start?
[02:57] <chull> the error he gets i also get when trying to run gedit ** (gedit:3759): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-z1ZURRQXec: Connection refused
[02:58] <Guddu_> nicomachus, I will paste the error shortly. Ubuntu is ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64
[02:58] <chull> hi nicomachus :)
[02:58] <Guddu_> And i am using the latest VirtualBox now.
[03:00] <chull> ** (cairo-dock:3500): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-z1ZURRQXec: Connection refused
[03:00] <nicomachus> chull: can you open it from the Dash (not from terminal)?
[03:01] <chull> nicomachus, not sure what you mean? when i ssh'd in and looked from my computer, cairo-dock is running.
[03:01] <nicomachus> chull: 90% of the time, the errors you get from opening an X application from terminal are meaningless, and don't actually mean there's an error.
[03:01] <chull> cairo-dock is not evident from the desktop
[03:01] <OerHeks> chull, looks normal to me, when you open a gui program from terminal, those are just messages.
[03:02] <Guddu_> nicomachus, After updating the virtual box the error disappeared
[03:02] <chull> OerHeks, nicomachus ok..  but it's still not working for him.
[03:03] <chull> he asks: does 'restart' do the same thing as shutting down and starting again? or might that make it suddenly work again:?
[03:03] <nicomachus> Guddu_: so you're all good now?
[03:03] <slidinghorn> PSA: warnings != errors... ;)
[03:03] <Guddu_> nicomachus, I have 2 issues now. The SSD Drive that i connect is not showing up in /media. And the shared folder from Windows Host to Ubunt Guest appears empty when there are files in there for sure.
[03:04] <nicomachus> Guddu_: those may be questions for #vbox, since they apply more to that than to ubuntu
[03:04] <Guddu_> Thanks nicomachus
[03:07] <chull> OerHeks, nicomachus ideas on getting hubby's cairo-dock  to work please?
[03:07] <nicomachus> restart the service.
[03:07] <AndChat13169> Hm
[03:08] <chull> nicomachus, command please?
[03:09] <nicomachus> service cairo-dock restart
[03:10] <Guddu_> nicomachus, When i insert a SSD Drive and do a ls -l /dev | grep sd i see the same entries as when the drive is not connected.
[03:10] <chull> nicomachus, # service cairo-dock restart
[03:10] <chull> cairo-dock: unrecognized service
[03:11] <nicomachus> pkill cairo-dock && cairo-dock
[03:12] <chull> nicomachus, thanks
[03:14] <nicomachus> did it work?
[03:14] <chull> nicomachus, he gets an error. the same one plus something about initializing opengl .. and the question does he want to use opengl
[03:16] <emiliaanoldz> hi
[03:17] <emiliaanoldz> hay alguien_
[03:17] <emiliaanoldz> ?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> emiliaanoldz: Hellp, your support issue ?
[03:17] <emiliaanoldz> I am a newbie, i dot know what it is
[03:17] <emiliaanoldz> dont
[03:19] <Bashing-om> emiliaanoldz: If it is ubuntu related ask here , if it is irc related ask in #freenode .
[03:19] <chull> nicomachus, d the question does he want to use openGL?
[03:19] <nicomachus> chull: yes, but I imagine there's a deeper issue here. I never had this kind of trouble with cairo-dock.
[03:20] <zumba_addict> hi folks, new to ubuntu. Just finished installing version 14 and it's running now. I type terminal but it's not showing any icon for it
[03:20] <nicomachus> zumba_addict: press Ctrl+Alt+T
[03:20] <zumba_addict> Also, when I click Software Center, nothing happens too
[03:20] <zumba_addict> k
[03:20] <chull> nicomachus, yeah. thanks :) appreciate your help!!! i'm lost on his computer.
[03:21] <zumba_addict> nicomachus: that worked!
[03:21] <nicomachus> chull: you may benefit from just uninstalling and reinstalling cairo-dock.
[03:21] <zjh> I use XUbuntu ,don't like Unity Ubuntu
[03:22] <nicomachus> congratulations.
[03:23] <chull> nicomachus, he will try that thanks!
[03:24] <zumba_addict> what could be the reason why Ubuntu Sofware Center is not coming up?
[03:26] <Bashing-om> zumba_addict: How are you calling it up ? the name is " software-center " . the tool is in the launcher in unity DE .
[03:26] <chull> nicomachus, i don't get it:  Package 'cairo-dock' is not installed, so not removed.. it removed the side bar icons.
[03:27] <nicomachus> it removed the side bar icons??
[03:27] <chull> nicomachus, yes - the stuff on the right side of his default desktop
[03:29] <nicomachus> what was the command you used to remove it?
[03:30] <OerHeks> chull, so you uninstalled/reinstalled cairo dock, but it was not installed at all?
[03:31] <chull> OerHeks, i think so, yes
[03:32] <chull> nicomachus, i'm not sure why i didn't do the && reinstall .. :~# apt-get remove cairo-dock
[03:33] <openland> hello
[03:35] <chull> wb
[03:35] <zumba_addict> Bashing-om: I was clicking the icon but I think i know the reason why it's not starting
[03:35] <zumba_addict> my / is full. I'll reinstall everything
[03:35] <chull> Nickeeh, shall we try apt-get install cairo-dock and see what happens?
[03:36] <zumba_addict> looks like the default install assigned a bad mount points and sizes to the slices
[03:36] <nicomachus> can't hurt..
[03:36] <chull> er nicomachus
[03:36] <chull> ok
[03:38] <Bashing-om> zumba_addict: Sure ?? .. LVM and the deault install with a very small boot partition ?
[03:38] <zumba_addict> yup, it created 3.7g on /
[03:39] <zumba_addict> and used everything, Avail was 0
[03:39] <zumba_addict> I've already deleted it
[03:39] <zumba_addict> I think i chose 8g earlier which was wrong
[03:39] <zumba_addict> I'm using VirtualBox
[03:39] <zumba_addict> Is 25g ok?
[03:39] <MannyLNJ> Evening.
[03:40] <chull> nicomachus, ok the dock is back, and the icons on the right (he set that) - he also has no bar at the top?
[03:40] <zumba_addict> I went with 40gb
[03:41] <MannyLNJ> If I have print sharing turned on why can't i browse to \\systemip\ and see a shared printer?
[03:41] <chull> nicomachus, also he has no left side stuff and that means no multi desktops etc.
[03:41] <nicomachus> zumba_addict: with vbox, usually 10-20 is sufficient in my experience.
[03:41] <Tarminquay> Hello.
[03:41] <Bashing-om> zumba_addict: Depends on what all additioinal you install . a general good size for '/' is 10 gigs .
[03:41] <zumba_addict> cool
[03:41] <Tarminquay> I am buying a new NUC. Can the devs in here check to make sure it's properly supported by Ubuntu?
[03:41] <zumba_addict> I'll be using it for video reencodes
[03:41] <Tarminquay> I want 0 issues.
[03:41] <gopar> Anyone familiar with ranger? How do I extract a tar file?
[03:42] <zumba_addict> 40g should be good for me
[03:42] <Tarminquay> http://www.itxcanada.com/index.php?p=product&id=1373&parent=129
[03:42] <Tarminquay> Here is the product.
[03:42] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: sorry, this isn't really the place.
[03:42] <zumba_addict> it's reinstalling again :D my third time
[03:42] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: The devs should be able to look at the components and assue me before I buy it.
[03:42] <OerHeks> !hcl
[03:42] <OerHeks> look for yourself?
[03:42] <zumba_addict> the first time, after I rebooted it, it never booted up. I just saw a cursor on left
[03:42] <OerHeks> do a little research, Tarminquay
[03:43] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: there are few devs here.
[03:44] <Tarminquay> RTL8111G
[03:44] <chull> nicomachus, i wonder if the top bar and side bar would come back if he rebooted?
[03:44] <Tarminquay> This is the WI-FI card and I don't see it listed on the Ubuntu page.
[03:44] <Tarminquay> It doesn't say if it's supported.
[03:44] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: Where do the devs go?
[03:44] <adeon_> do you see it with lspci/usb
[03:45] <adeon_> lspci or lsusb
[03:45] <Tarminquay> no
[03:45] <nicomachus> adeon_: he doesn't have the machine yet. he's looking for purchase advice.
[03:45] <adeon_> ahh ok nvm
[03:45] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: I want to be sure it's 100% supported.
[03:45] <Tarminquay> http://www.itxcanada.com/index.php?p=product&id=1373&parent=129
[03:45] <Tarminquay> Here's the machine.
[03:46] <Tarminquay> GIGABYTE BRIX GB-BXi3H-5010 with Intel Core i3-5010u CPU ; with 120GB SSD; 4GB Memory WIFI+Bluetooth ( SKU#105984 )
[03:46] <nicomachus> yes you already linked that, and have been told it's not on topic here.
[03:46] <nicomachus> stop.
[03:46] <OerHeks> Tarminquay, but you know already that 8111g gives issues :-D
[03:46] <Tarminquay> OerHeks: They do?
[03:46] <Tarminquay> OerHeks: I read about issues back in 2008. Why wouldn't they be fixed?
[03:46] <nicomachus> 21:38 < Tarminquay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411
[03:46] <Tarminquay> RTL8111G <-- This card gives issues?
[03:46] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: Did you see the date there?
[03:47] <Tarminquay> 2008.
[03:47] <Tarminquay> It's 2015 now.
[03:47]  * nicomachus facepalms
[03:47] <Tarminquay> If the issues are present still that would be the most pathetic thing ever.
[03:47] <chull> nicomachus, is there a command to just restart the desktop?
[03:47] <nicomachus> chull: that depends on what DE you're using, but logging out and logging back in will accomplish it.
[03:47] <chull> Tarminquay, why not get a more modern system?
[03:48] <Tarminquay> chull: It's a brand new box!
[03:48] <chull> Tarminquay, it's got 2008 problems?
[03:49] <OerHeks> cheap license, problem chip .. but it might work with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/r8168-dkms
[03:49] <Tarminquay> GB-BXi3H-5010
[03:49] <Tarminquay> Here is the box.
[03:49] <Tarminquay> It's a Gigabyte i3 5010U.
[03:49] <Tarminquay> It has a Realtek Wi-FI card:
[03:49] <Tarminquay> RTL8111G
[03:49] <Tarminquay> That card has issues with Ubuntu or not?
[03:49] <Tarminquay> I can't tell.
[03:50] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: it seems to be working fine for this user: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2227323&page=2
[03:51] <Tarminquay> Holy moly.
[03:51] <Tarminquay> That's not fine. He says he's not getting the full potential.
[03:51] <nicomachus> read the rest of the thread....
[03:51] <Tarminquay> But that was back in 2014. Surely it JUST WORKS now?
[03:51] <nicomachus> that was on the latest LTS
[03:52] <Tarminquay> I don't want to do any command line stuff.
[03:52] <Tarminquay> I'll be using version 15.10.
[03:52] <Tarminquay> Will it JUST WORK or not?
[03:52] <nicomachus> you clearly don't want the advice that we can give you.
[03:52] <Tarminquay> Will it JUST WORK, nicomachus, or not?
[03:52] <EmeraldExplorer> Anyone know how to COMPLETELY reinstall a program?
[03:52] <Tarminquay> Answer my question.
[03:53] <nicomachus> I choose not to.
[03:53] <OerHeks> Tarminquay, drop that attitude please.
[03:53] <EmeraldExplorer> cause I really messed up mariadb
[03:53] <nicomachus> EmeraldExplorer: apt-get purge --remove mariadb
[03:53] <nicomachus> then reinstall
[03:53] <chull> nicomachus, he still has no top bar and no left side stuff. whatever broke is broken good. - it's 14.04
[03:53] <nicomachus> chull: what DE is he using? unity?
[03:54] <chull> nicomachus, yes
[03:54] <EmeraldExplorer> nicomachus: with apt-get install ?
[03:54] <nicomachus> EmeraldExplorer: yes.
[03:54] <nicomachus> chull: you can try to reinstall unity, otherwise it's going to take some digging.
[03:54] <nicomachus> chull: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-desktop
[03:55] <chull> the gedit we just had i closed after i saved - - 2015-12-15
[03:55] <chull> nicomachus, shall do
[03:56] <Tarminquay> rtl8111 ubuntu
[03:56] <Tarminquay> I don't believe this.
[03:56] <Tarminquay> Do you see all those links about troubles with this card and Ubuntu?
[03:56] <EmeraldExplorer> nicomachus: well it is not working properly :,(
[03:56] <Tarminquay> This is one of the most mainstream, popular cards there is.
[03:56] <Tarminquay> How can Ubuntu not 100% support it?
[03:56] <EmeraldExplorer> nicomachus: still not going through the config and stuff
[03:56] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: Maybe you should write a driver for it. you are no longer on-topic here.
[03:56] <chull> nicomachus,  E: Unable to locate package unity-desktop
[03:56] <chull> i do love him. i do.
[03:57] <Tarminquay> LOL! Writing a driver for my own wireless card.
[03:57] <Tarminquay> Unbelievable.
[03:57] <nicomachus> well you clearly expect others to do it for you
[03:57] <OerHeks> chull, ubuntu-desktop, not unity-desktop
[03:57] <nicomachus> oops.
[03:58] <chull> ah ok
[03:58] <chull> lemee try that :)
[03:58] <zumba_addict> i'm getting an error when I do apt-get install. The error is "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[03:59] <zumba_addict> should I use sudo?
[03:59] <OerHeks> that would be wise, yes
[03:59] <zumba_addict> k
[03:59] <chull> okies that worked nicomachus - how do we get it to affect the desktop?
[03:59] <zumba_addict> got another error but minor
[04:00] <zumba_addict> Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted or is only available from another source
[04:00] <zumba_addict> I'm trying to install slowmovideo
[04:00] <zumba_addict> i'm following the instructions from their website
[04:01] <zumba_addict> i'm following the instructions from this page, http://slowmovideo.granjow.net/download.php
[04:02] <nicomachus> zumba_addict: what version of ubuntu are you using again?
[04:02] <zumba_addict> oh wait, there is for ubuntu 14.04
[04:03] <zumba_addict> i'm now using the 14.04 instructions :)
[04:03] <chull> :)
[04:03] <nicomachus> lol, that'll help. :)
[04:03] <zumba_addict> first command worked
[04:03] <zumba_addict> earlier i used Debian/Ubuntu
[04:03] <zumba_addict> earlier i used Debian/Ubuntu instructions
[04:03] <chull> nicomachus, we didn't get errors, but no bars?
[04:04] <Tarminquay> rtl8111 --> Anyone want to ensure this ethernet card is fully supported without any issues with Ubuntu 15.10?
[04:04] <Tarminquay> Thanks. I'll PayPal $10 to the dev who answers.
[04:04] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: may I suggest Windows?
[04:04] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: I shouldn't have to use Spyware to get a hassle-free OS.
[04:05] <zumba_addict> got an error when I ran this -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg
[04:05] <nicomachus> zumba_addict: what was the error?
[04:05] <zumba_addict> the error is: Cannot add PPA: ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg
[04:05] <zumba_addict> Please check that the PPA name or format is correct
[04:05] <somsip> Tarminquay: what is so difficiult? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/make/Realtek%20Semiconductor%20Co.,%20Ltd./
[04:05] <chull> Tarminquay, the flip side is that if nobody complained about it since 2008 it will probably work. :)
[04:06] <xangua> did you check? does it exist? zumba_addict
[04:06] <Tarminquay> somsip: It's not listed there..
[04:06] <zumba_addict> xangua: i've never used ppa, it's my first time right now
[04:06] <somsip> Tarminquay: 2nd up from the bottom - RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[04:06] <OerHeks> ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg > DO NOT USE https://launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+ppa-packages
[04:06] <Tarminquay> somsip: You're right.
[04:06] <Tarminquay> somsip: Great work!
[04:06] <zumba_addict> maybe i'll just download the ffmpeg then compile from scratch. This way I get the latest too
[04:06] <somsip> Tarminquay: I know. Will you stop whinging now?
[04:06] <zumba_addict> looking
[04:07] <zumba_addict> what does that mean OerHeks? What should I do then?
[04:07] <Tarminquay> kudos to the Ubuntu team for ensuring hassle-free performance out of that Realtek card.
[04:07] <Tarminquay> It's a popular card.
[04:07] <OerHeks> 14.4 uses avconv, due to some reason, current wily 15.10 uses ffmpeg again
[04:08] <adeon_> works flawlesly
[04:08] <adeon_> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411
[04:08] <zumba_addict> ok. What will I do?
[04:08] <zumba_addict> just download the tar.gz then?
[04:08] <Tarminquay> I presume that's the same as: rtl8111G
[04:08] <OerHeks> there are many 8111 realtec chips..
[04:08] <Tarminquay> What's the G mean anyway?
[04:08] <adeon_> tarmaque
[04:09] <Arbition> yeah Realtek 8111 has been around for a very long time
[04:09] <OerHeks> cheap license, problem chip .. but it might work with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/r8168-dkms
[04:09] <Tarminquay> The one in the box I want is the 8111G.
[04:09] <adeon_> the RTL81111 is not wifi
[04:09] <Tarminquay> How do I tell if that particular rone is supported?
[04:09] <atlas-hive> what is a good terminal GUI that displays traffic and info in real time?
[04:09] <adeon_> thats the LAN
[04:09] <someish> How should I go about listing directory contents and then grep (or something) those results and check to see which files do not contain a value that exists in a CSV file? The CSV file is simple. It only contains > 1000 numerical values separated by a comma.
[04:09] <nicomachus> atlas-hive: you may try looking into conky, but it's a large package of different monitors and customization tools.
[04:10] <nicomachus> atlas-hive: similar to RainMeter on Windows, if you ever used that.
[04:10] <Tarminquay> adeon_: Here's the system: http://www.itxcanada.com/index.php?p=product&id=1373&parent=129
[04:10] <Tarminquay> adeon_: Do you see the wireless chip/card there?
[04:10] <nicomachus> zumba_addict: you can try installing avconv and see if that works with the slowmovideo application you want.
[04:10] <atlas-hive> i was hoping to stay away from destop GUI, i use terminal a lot and ijust built a linux box to capture and direct traffic via eth0 and wlan0
[04:10] <adeon_> it does not state which one it is
[04:11] <zumba_addict> cool
[04:11] <adeon_> but it mostlikely is a RTL widi
[04:11] <zumba_addict> so avconv is like an installer?
[04:11] <atlas-hive> nicomachus: sorry that last message was directed to you..
[04:11] <adeon_> "IEEE802.11ac, Dual Band & BT 4.0"
[04:11] <Tarminquay> adeon_: How is the support for those?
[04:11] <Arbition> it'll be fine Tarminquay
[04:11] <nicomachus> atlas-hive: I saw it... I'm thinking.
[04:11] <adeon_> it will most likely be ok
[04:11] <Tarminquay> Arbition: How do you know?
[04:11] <adeon_> i have the projector i3 brix
[04:11] <adeon_> has this card
[04:12] <adeon_> RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[04:12] <Arbition> Intel is pretty good with getting drivers into linux
[04:12] <Tarminquay> adeon_: It worked with Ubuntu without issues at full performance?
[04:12] <Arbition> its also not skylake, which has been reported to have issues
[04:13] <nicomachus> atlas-hive: perhaps this is helpful: http://www.tecmint.com/command-line-tools-to-monitor-linux-performance/
[04:13] <adeon_> yes
[04:13] <adeon_>  bothh wifi and bluetooth
[04:14] <Tarminquay> Excellent. So I'll buy that computer and put the USB in and it will begin installing Ubuntu and I should be up and running in about 5 minutes?
[04:15] <atlas-hive> isaw this website eariler today. i am actually using bmon and iftop right now. i was just wondering if there was a more indepth alternative to those
[04:15] <Arbition> 5 minutes is a little optimistic, 10 - 15 minutes
[04:15] <OerHeks> 2 hrs
[04:15] <atlas-hive> nicomachus: damnit i keep forgetting to tag you, sorry
[04:15] <Tarminquay> Arbition: That's just easy GUI steps?
[04:15] <nicomachus> language...
[04:15] <Arbition> pretty much
[04:16] <Arbition> select location, select keyboard
[04:16] <Arbition> the only thing of any interest is partitioning, which has default options anyway
[04:16] <Arbition> but whether you should the defaults or not, well that depends on many things
[04:16] <adeon_> yep within 20 mins for sure
[04:16] <Tarminquay> Do you recommend I let Ubuntu take over the whole drive or tell it special instructions?
[04:16] <nicomachus> atlas-hive: I don't do a lot of system monitoring, sorry. There are some great communities on reddit (/r/unixporn) and irc.rizon.net #rice that definitely have a better grasp on those types of applications.
[04:16] <Arbition> Will you be installing any other operating systems on it, Tarminquay?
[04:16] <auctus> if i install something from the cli with apt instead of the software center, is there an easy way to get it added to the launcher and the search etc as though i had done it via software center?
[04:17] <Tarminquay> No.
[04:17] <Tarminquay> It will be the only OS.
[04:17] <Arbition> just let it go then
[04:17] <Arbition> the defaults will be better supported
[04:17] <Arbition> by people here
[04:17] <adeon_> do UEFI
[04:17] <Tarminquay> So after 20 minutes of easy installation everything should work flawlessly without any tinkering?
[04:17] <nicomachus> auctus: you can install through terminal, then once you start it up it will show up on the launcher and you can right-click and pin it to the launcher. idk of another way.
[04:17] <xangua> or get a machine with Ubuntu preinstalled
[04:17] <atlas-hive> nicomachus: ok thank you for the tip.
[04:17] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: no. that isn't how linux works.
[04:17] <Tarminquay> xangua: Those are very rare.
[04:18] <Arbition> Can't guarantee quite that
[04:18] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: How does it work?
[04:18] <Arbition> also can't guarantee it will never break
[04:18] <Tarminquay> Arbition: What might I have to do?
[04:18] <Arbition> thats just it, if we knew what could happen, it could be automated
[04:18] <Arbition> you'll have to wait and see
[04:18] <nicomachus> and this place wouldn't need to exit.
[04:18] <Tarminquay> I thought Ubuntu was the version for Windows and iOS converts who want something that just works?
[04:18] <nicomachus> s/exit/exist/
[04:18] <xangua> Tarminquay: if you live in the past, yes https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[04:19] <Arbition> Didn't you say you wanted to run mint, Tarminquay?
[04:19] <xangua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[04:19] <Tarminquay> Arbition: I'm running Ubuntu MATE.
[04:19] <Arbition> mmkay
[04:19] <Arbition> maybe I was thinking someone else
[04:19] <Tarminquay> Arbition: I've got the USB coming in the mail from OS Disc.
[04:19] <Arbition> wha-
[04:19] <nicomachus> what the...
[04:19] <Arbition> which version?
[04:19] <Tarminquay> Version 15.10.
[04:19] <Arbition> oh ok
[04:19] <Arbition> phew
[04:19] <Tarminquay> What?
[04:19] <Arbition> that'll have a recent enough kernel
[04:20] <Arbition> if you were trying for 14.04, you might have issues with too new hardware
[04:20] <nicomachus> nah.
[04:20] <Tarminquay> The kernel on Linux Mint 17.3 is older than the 15.10 one, right?
[04:20] <Tarminquay> Meaning 15.10 has better support?
[04:20] <Arbition> the mint 17 series is based on 14.04
[04:20] <xangua> Tarminquay: Ubuntu has better support in the ubuntu channel
[04:20] <Tarminquay> I prefer using the latest kernel.
[04:21] <Tarminquay> Superior hardware support.
[04:21] <nicomachus> latest kernel != best support
[04:21] <xangua> you know you won't get latest with Ubuntu right?
[04:21] <Arbition> latest kernel puts you on your own
[04:21] <Tarminquay> The kernel in 15.10 is significantly newer than in 14.04.
[04:21] <Arbition> if you really wanted that, you'd be looking at fedora rawhide or debian sid
[04:21] <Tarminquay> That's good enough for me.
[04:21] <Arbition> mmkaya
[04:22] <Tarminquay> I don't want the bleeding edge
[04:22] <Tarminquay> but the latest that Ubuntu offers.
[04:22] <Arbition> I do :)
[04:22] <Arbition> don't worry too much
[04:22] <Arbition> rarely have I had install issues
[04:22] <Arbition> for those issues I've had, 80% have been solved before
[04:22] <nicomachus> ok.
[04:23] <nicomachus> !ot
[04:23] <Tarminquay> Good. I hope I am up and running in about 20 minutes without any issues and that I can begin working and not have any issues.
[04:23] <adeon_> youll have one mayor issue
[04:23] <nicomachus> user error?
[04:23] <Tarminquay> What issue?
[04:23] <adeon_> going back to windows
[04:23] <adeon_> :-D
[04:25] <Tarminquay> Interesting.
[04:25] <Tarminquay> That's good if true.
[04:34] <Tarminquay> By the way
[04:34] <Tarminquay> Arbition:
[04:35] <Tarminquay> adeon_:
[04:35] <Arbition> mm?
[04:35] <Tarminquay> I read about BIOS issues with the box I want.
[04:36] <nicomachus> That is *definitely* not ubuntu related.
[04:39] <somsip> !ops (though I guess you know)
[04:39] <somsip> !ops| (though I guess you know)
[04:40] <Arbition> Drone` already responded
[04:41] <ronburgendy> what is going on
[04:41] <nicomachus> ronburgendy: rather large bot-spam attack. nothing to see here.
[04:41] <somsip> ronburgendy: just let the bot/op get rid of the troll
[04:41] <ronburgendy> nicomachus, oh ya i'm seeing it now
[04:42] <nicomachus> :( don't remove the bans...
[04:43] <Arbition> did anyone else spot a Z-Line recently?
[04:44] <Arbition> Sorry, K-Line
[04:44] <nicomachus> K-Line?
[04:44] <Arbition> network wide ban basically
[04:44] <nicomachus> probably that guy ^
[04:45] <Arbition> lol not neccessarily
[04:45] <Arbition> I just don't like him
[04:46] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: As you can see my hardware talk in here is very mild..
[04:46] <Tarminquay> No need to get your panties in a knot over me.
[04:47] <nicomachus> guidelines are guidelines. ##hardware exists.
[04:50] <Tarminquay> "Only negative is the built in wifi. Was getting 500kbps (dial up speeds) while macbook 18" away was getting 40Mbps. "
[04:50] <Tarminquay> Any idea why a Ubuntu user would be getting such poor wifi performance?
[04:52] <Arbition> thats 10x dialup speeds
[04:52] <Arbition> but anyway
[04:53] <Arbition> Was that test compared to a different platform where it got better speeds?
[04:53] <Arbition> ie on windows?
[04:53] <Arbition> The antenna on it could be rubbish
[04:53] <nicomachus> this is a discussion for ##hardware.
[04:55] <Tarminquay> However
[04:56] <Tarminquay> he was using Ubuntu.
[04:56] <Tarminquay> It could be something in the Ubuntu.
[04:57] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: when you actually have the machine, and have problems that can be fixed, then what you say will be relevant here. until then, you are off-topic and need to move to another channel.
[04:59] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: When I have the machine it is too late.
[04:59] <Tarminquay> It will be difficult to return and I will be out the shipping fee to my home, the shipping fee back, and the 25% restocking fee.
[04:59] <Tarminquay> And plus my time and frustration.
[05:04] <nicomachus> well I'm going to bed. good luck.
[05:11] <Atrahasis> Hello
[05:12] <Atrahasis> Are there any channels pertaining to addiction?
[05:12] <somsip> !alis | Atrahasis
[05:12] <ImJune> trol
[05:12] <Atrahasis> I am using a client that has a channel listing
[05:13] <somsip> Atrahasis: use alis
[05:13] <ImJune> !alias | Atrahasis
[05:16] <Atrahasis> msg/ alis list #addiction
[05:16] <somsip> Atrahasis: /msg not msg/
[05:16] <Atrahasis> oooh
[05:17] <somsip> Atrahasis: just read the instructions carefully...
[05:17] <Atrahasis> it was a typo
[05:17] <Atrahasis> It doesn't exist
[05:17] <Atrahasis> damn
[05:18] <Atrahasis> thanks
[05:30] <regedit> is it normal to have a virbr0 network device? it didnt used to be there in the network thingy, but now it's there showing "connected"
[05:31] <shafox> I have nvidia geforce graphics card, in the additional software it is also selected but when i do lspci | grep -iA2 vga i get 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09) , how to select the nvidia graphics card ??
[05:31] <regedit> shafox: look for your "nvidia settings" panel
[05:32] <shafox> regedit: where to find it ?
[05:32] <Gallomimia> open terminal and type nvidia-settings
[05:32] <regedit> shafox: somewhere in your "start menu" whatever it's called, type "nvidia" it should come up
[05:32] <regedit> or what Gallomimia said
[05:33] <regedit> in there is a section called PRIME Profiles i think, is what you're looking for
[05:33] <shafox> yes found it. in the PRIME Profiles it is already selected NVIDIA(Performance mode)
[05:34] <regedit> shafox: lspci doesnt tell you which one is selected
[05:34] <regedit> just which devices exist
[05:34] <regedit> mesa-tools glxinfo can tell you that
[05:35] <shafox> regedit: the settings says it is alrady using the nvidia one but the lspci says intel
[05:36] <regedit> shafox: read what i said ^
[05:36] <shafox> and if I do this sudo lshw -C video, i get two
[05:36] <shafox> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gTtF0Kez/
[05:36] <regedit> good
[05:36] <regedit> none of those tell you which of the 2 is selected
[05:36] <regedit> shafox: in a command terminal try running: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer string"
[05:36] <shafox> ahh ok let me check mesa-tools
[05:37] <regedit> shafox: mesa-tools is the package, the command is glxinfo ^
[05:37] <regedit> you might need to install mesa-tools in order to have that command
[05:38] <Gallomimia> can anyone help me with this problem? i would really like to copy the ubuntu install i have on this flash drive onto an LVM, and install a copy of the bootloader and initramdisk to the raided drives i have in the disk
[05:38] <shafox> regedit: output of that command is OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 920M/PCIe/SSE2
[05:39] <regedit> shafox: there ya go
[05:39] <regedit> shafox: try switching to intel, log off, log on, and check that again, it should show the intel renderer
[05:39] <shafox> regedit: but thing is the videos are coming pixelated for some hence was confused why it is showing intel when i have nvidia
[05:39] <regedit> shafox: you are currently on the GeForce GPU
[05:40] <regedit> you have both nvidia and intel
[05:40] <regedit> just like i do
[05:40] <regedit> currently you are using the nvidia GPU tho
[05:40] <regedit> so have fun playing games :D
[05:41] <regedit> shafox: did you use the Driver Manager to get the latest driver?
[05:41] <regedit> also do you have the right media player codecs
[05:41] <regedit> also is the video itself bad quality
[05:41] <shafox> regedit: i just updated the package manager and checked which one i am using in the additional drivers and this is the one i am using
[05:42] <regedit> shafox: there should be a tool you can find called "Driver Manager"
[05:42] <shafox> 352.63 from nvidia-352
[05:42] <regedit> ok that's good
[05:43] <regedit> if you're feeling adventurous you can use the graphics-drivers launchpad PPA to get version 355 or even 358
[05:43] <regedit> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[05:43] <shafox> Driver Manager is another package ?
[05:43] <regedit> shafox: i think it comes preinstalled in ubuntu (and its variants)
[05:44] <shafox> regedit: can't find it in the dash,
[05:44] <regedit> ok then maybe it doesnt come preinstalled then..
[05:44] <regedit> maybe it's somewhere in system settings
[05:45] <regedit> i myself am actually on Kubuntu with KDE so everything is rather different (yet similar)
[05:45] <shafox> ok let me dig it through
[05:46] <regedit> shafox: in ubuntu its called additional drivers
[05:46] <regedit> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[05:46] <regedit> more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:47] <shafox> regedit: yep in that additional drivers itself i see 3 choices, 352.63, x.org, 352.63 from updates.
[05:48] <regedit> pick your poison :)
[05:48] <regedit> the proprietary ones (the ones with version numbers) are probably what you want
[05:48] <shafox> yep that is the one i have selected. let me tinker with some of the new drivers as you have mentioned
[05:48] <regedit> if you add the PPA mentioned before later versions will show up
[05:49] <Gallomimia> i prefer the not updates mode cause they've been more thoroughly tested
[05:49] <regedit> take note of all the warnings issued by that PPA
[05:49] <shafox> regedit: understood :)
[05:50] <shafox> thank you regedit  :)
[05:50] <regedit> np
[05:50] <yrj> how to accept user input and insert it at particular line in a file? (insertion has to be replacement of the current text)
[05:50] <regedit> Gallomimia: come out of your fetal position in your cave and live on the edge for a bit :D
[05:50] <yrj> how to accept user input and insert it at particular line in a file? (insertion has to be replacement of the current text)
[05:51] <regedit> yrj: please don't post twice, and google for the right combination of read, sed, and all that good stuff you need to use
[05:51] <Gallomimia> regedit: what does
[05:52] <regedit> Gallomimia: what does what?
[05:52] <Gallomimia> sorry, interrupted
[05:52] <regedit> oh :)
[05:53] <regedit> yrj: you'll probably have more success searching for both parts of that task separately 1) how to replace text in a file 2) how to obtain user input and use it
[05:53] <Gallomimia> i was trying to say the last time i did that, my computer started booting in a blackscreen
[05:53] <Gallomimia> still haven't fixed it
[05:53] <regedit> then do what guybrush threepwood does best -- combine!
[05:54] <Gallomimia> what?
[05:54] <regedit> Gallomimia: (what was for yrj) yep i had some of that black screen too, but somehow figured out how to make it work
[05:54] <regedit> *that was fir yrj
[05:54] <regedit> *that was for yrj
[05:55] <Gallomimia> aw. timeout
[05:59] <regedit> anyone know what virbr0 is? do i need it ? can i get rid of it? it used to not be there, not sure how it suddenly got there in network interfaces
[06:02] <Sniper41m> i am new to irc, how can i use it effectively ?
[06:03] <regedit> Sniper41m: here are 4 short paragraphs to get you started https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/resources/irc
[06:06] <yrj> hi
[06:06] <amincd> Hi, after the most recent update, my machine exited to grub, and boot gives this error: "you need to load the kernel first"
[06:06] <Sniper41m> thanks regedit
[06:07] <amincd> I created a boot-repair-disk usb boot drive, but it doesn't work..
[06:07] <yrj> hi, how to insert user input on a particular line in a file(insertion has to be a replacement)
[06:07] <yrj> hi, how to insert user input on a particular line in a file(insertion has to be a replacement)
[06:08] <regedit> [00:51] <regedit> yrj: please don't post repeatedly. google for the right combination of read, sed, and all that good stuff you need to use
[06:08] <regedit> [00:53] <regedit> yrj: you'll probably have more success searching for both parts of that task separately 1) how to replace text in a file 2) how to obtain user input and use it
[06:08] <yrj> Hi, how to insert user input on a particular line in a file(insertion has to be a replacement)
[06:08] <regedit> [00:53] <regedit> then do what guybrush threepwood does best -- combine!
[06:08] <amincd> I have dual-boot, Windows and Ubuntu, so that could be reason it's not working
[06:08] <amincd> not sure
[06:08] <yrj> regedit: thank you
[06:08] <regedit> yrj: ok now are you just trolling/spamming
[06:08] <amincd> any suggestions would be most appreciated
[06:08] <regedit> oh nvm :)
[06:09] <amincd> brb
[06:10] <regedit> yrj: please don't PM without prior invitation, people on IRC don't like that very much
[06:11] <yrj> does sed have an option to replace
[06:11] <hroi12> hi
[06:11] <yrj> i have used the -i and -s option
[06:11] <yrj> but -s doesnt seem to replace the text
[06:11] <Gallomimia> also most clients don't have a notification for PM
[06:11] <hroi12> I have a number of audio devices on my desktop
[06:11] <regedit> yrj: keep googling and trying things, you're on the right track
[06:11] <yrj> ok
[06:11] <hroi12> I sometimes switch between them, depending on situation
[06:11] <regedit> yrj: hint: use echo "here is some text to test with" | sed ....
[06:12] <yrj> thanks..will try it out
[06:12] <hroi12> this seems to work fine in many cases, but sometimes I get a feeling that the audio device choice is persistent to some windows or terminals in unity
[06:12] <hroi12> is this correct -- is there a kind of audio device assocation going on in unity?
[06:13] <hroi12> *audio device -- window/applicatio association
[06:13] <regedit> yrj: hint #2: you are looking for the "s/foo/bar/" sed command, which replaces foo with bar using regular expressions
[06:13] <yrj> regedit:  i wanted to write a script for fdisk... is scripting fdisk okay? or should i use sfdisk?
[06:13] <regedit> yrj: for example: echo "here is some text to test with" | sed "s/some/rofl/"
[06:14] <yrj> regedit:  s/foo/bar -- in this i dont know the text..i have to replace the earlier inserted text at that line
[06:15] <regedit> then you might need to compose your "s/.../.../" string from variables
[06:15] <yrj> yes.. pls answer my query of fdisk and sfdisk above
[06:16]  * regedit shrugs
[06:16] <regedit> dunno, sorry
[06:16] <yrj> okay np
[06:16] <regedit> perhaps ask in ##linux too
[06:16] <yrj> ok
[06:17] <yrj> is using sed a better option or using open, write, lseek and other stuff
[06:18] <hrob12> fdisk scripting  http://xmodulo.com/how-to-run-fdisk-in-non-interactive-batch-mode.html
[06:18] <terribleplan> Hey guys, for some reason invoke-rc.d is hanging inside of some postinst scripts, which has totally borked my attempted apt-get upgrade, any suggestions?
[06:18] <regedit> yrj: sed will do all the seeking for you, and you will likely write all its output back to the file, replacing its content
[06:19] <yrj> regeditokay
[06:19] <yrj> hrob12: thanks
[06:19] <yrj> regedit: thanks a lot
[06:20] <regedit> no prob, hope you succeed in your endeavor :)
[06:38] <dersand> I'm not that familiar with linux, but i'm trying to connect to an ssh server. When i do it on windows through putty, i get a prompt asking for the username i want to identify as. But when i'm doing it on my ubuntu machine i have my username like dersand@ubuntu, and when i connect to that ssh i get dersand@sshserver, i want dersand@ to something else.
[06:41] <hrob12> dersand:   sorry, is your username "dersand@ubuntu"  or is it "dersand"
[06:42] <dersand> hrob12, in my terminal when i'm a regular user the prompt says dersand@ubuntu. But i guess i'm dersand
[06:42] <hrob12> dersand: yes you are dersand then
[06:42] <dersand> i figured it out, i just had to type x@sshserver
[06:43] <hrob12> dersand:    "ssh -X dersand@wherever.com"    easy peasy
[06:45] <dersand> hrob12, -x switch?
[06:47] <lulcat> ayyyy
[06:54] <Ukyou> Hello somebody here_?
[06:55] <Ukyou> Welcome
[07:02] <Aba_Keylogger> hello
[07:04] <Ghost_r00t> how could I lock my kernel not to be updated during system-wide update?
[07:04] <somsip> !pinning | Ghost_r00t
[07:24] <kais3n> Good morning, I tring to format a USB key after I put a ubuntu install image with dd on it. But it seems to be impossible
[07:24] <somsip> kais3n: how are you trying to do it?
[07:25] <kais3n> gparted and fdisk can't create a new partion table on it
[07:25] <kais3n> i also tried dd=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[07:25] <somsip> kais3n: does sudo fdisk -l show that it is present?
[07:25] <kais3n> Yes it show two partions
[07:25] <kjkji> how ca I upgrade to Vivid?
[07:26] <somsip> kais3n: how are you running gparted or fdisk?
[07:26] <kais3n> sudo parted / sudo fdisk
[07:26] <kais3n> or should i su?
[07:26] <somsip> kjkji: maybe best to go to 15.10 as I dont think 15.04 is supported for very long
[07:26] <somsip> kais3n: sudo is fine
[07:27] <kjkji> or 15.10 i don' t care
[07:27] <somsip> kjkji: from what?
[07:27] <kjkji> from 14.10 obviously
[07:29] <kais3n> I get everytime the message that the block size is 2048 but linux tell 512
[07:29] <somsip> kais3n: can you paste the full message
[07:29] <kais3n> Its german...
[07:29] <kais3n> Warning: Der Treiberdeskriptor sagt, dass die physische Blockgröße 2048 Bytes ist. Linux sagt, dass es 512 Bytes sind
[07:30] <somsip> kais3n: http://askubuntu.com/questions/675649/unable-to-delete-usb-drive-partitions-block-size-error
[07:32] <Tarminquay> Hello?
[07:32] <Tarminquay> Why is the service at OS Disc.com so lousy?
[07:32] <Tarminquay> I e-mail them but it takes days to get a response??
[07:32] <Tarminquay> What gives?
[07:34] <hateball> Tarminquay: How is this related to Ubuntu?
[07:35] <somsip> hateball: if he's still carping on, I'd recommend ignoring. He was doing a lot of time wasting earlier
[07:35] <OpenSorce> This is frightening... software updater has been sitting on "Setting up grub-pc (2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.6) ..." for 20 minutes...
[07:35] <hateball> somsip: I see
[07:35] <Tarminquay> hateball: I bought my Ubuntu USB from there.
[07:37] <kjkji> so how can I upgrade from Utopic?
[07:39] <awuah> hi i need help
[07:40] <somsip> awuah: just explain your problem clearly
[07:40] <Sniper41m> i didn't understand reverse quote or accent graves, what purpose does it serve ?
[07:40] <OpenSorce> Should it take more than minutes to configure grub-pc?
[07:40] <somsip> Sniper41m: in bash?
[07:40] <somsip> OpenSorce: no - sounds like a problem
[07:40] <awuah> how can make my ubunut transparency
[07:40] <Sniper41m> @somsip : shell scripting
[07:41] <OpenSorce> Crap... why can't it screw up on something that won't stop my computer from booting?
[07:41] <somsip> Sniper41m: Try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20034/differences-between-doublequotes-singlequotes-and-backticks-%C2%B4-%C2%B4-on-comm
[07:41] <kjkji> it is old variant of $(...)
[07:41] <rwp> Sniper41m, backticks in shell scripting are deprecated. Replaced by $( ) which has better syntax.
[07:42] <OpenSorce> apt-d is using the most resources in top
[07:47] <mices> i'm caught in  a login loop after struggling with installation of deps for virtualbox-5.0 i removed and reinstalled dmsetup and something else too, i don't remember what the something else was, but now i'm caught in login loop i can't get to my desktop in mint
[07:47] <somsip> mices: you're running mint or ubuntu?
[07:48] <mices> mint
[07:48] <somsip> !mint | mices
[07:48] <Sniper41m> @somsip and @rwp : still didn't understand. actually i saw a video on youtube about extracting variables from contents in set command
[07:48] <somsip> Sniper41m: you've been given the answer, and it's offtopic here. If you want more help, try #bash
[07:48] <somsip> !pm | kais3n
[07:48] <OpenSorce> So... any help with this?
[07:49] <kjkji> how can I upgrade from Utopic?
[07:49] <somsip> OpenSorce: I'm no expert with grub and dont want to give bad advice, but you may just end up killing it, and using grub-rescue
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !eol | kjkji
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> kjkji: install a version from topic mate
[07:49] <somsip> !fixgrub | OpenSorce
[07:50] <vsfvf> why is landscape so expensive?
[07:50] <somsip> OpenSorce: restore...not rescue
[07:50] <OpenSorce> somsip, yeah I'm familiar, I just thought maybe someone here could tell me something to try without having to do all that :-P
[07:51] <OpenSorce> brb
[07:52] <kjkji> sooo stupid
[07:52] <kjkji> why break the upgrade process?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> kjkji: its not reccomended to upgrade from an eol version
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> kjkji: how can you stll trust your system?
[07:53] <kjkji> wut
[07:53] <Gallomimia> i don't recommend upgrades at all. judging from the experience of doing it once
[07:54] <bonzibuddy> downgrade where possible.  Im running IRSSI on an altair
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !usn | kjkji look how many security issues on your system
[07:54] <kjkji> right, I need to lose my data instead. it' s not I' m using my machine for anything useful
[07:54] <Ispira> would this be the wrong channel to ask about ubuntu running on a raspberry pi?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !arm | Ispira maybe here?
[07:54] <Gallomimia> someone talked about it awhile ago. clean installs are better
[07:54] <somsip> Ispira: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[07:54] <Ispira> awesome thanks lotuspsychje
[07:55] <Ispira> somsip: already there<3 thanks
[07:56] <Walkerdine> Hm
[07:56] <Walkerdine> didnt know there was an ubuntu arm channel
[07:56] <Walkerdine> good to know
[07:57] <bonzibuddy> Ispira what ya got planned for your pi?
[07:57] <somsip> !ot | bonzibuddy
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> alis > Walkerdine alot of channels here
[07:58] <amincd> Hi, my Grub is not loading. I created a Boot-Repair-Disk USB. It works on my main machine, but it goes to a black screen on my dual boot laptop
[07:58] <amincd> any suggestions?
[07:59] <kjkji> I still don'  t understand why they have remobed the distro from their servers breaking upgrade
[08:00] <Gallomimia> !nomodeset | amincd
[08:00] <Gallomimia> this might help
[08:02] <amincd> Gallomimia: thanks, will check out
[08:04] <kingplusplus> please ubuntu users here is a top report of my ubuntu server https://dpaste.de/8xmq am runing a custom made program with multiple threads and processes is there any issue with my usage?
[08:06] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus doesnt look too eggregious in terms of cpu, idk depends on your system really.  if anything critical is running alongside
[08:06] <bonzibuddy> mem and swap are a bit high
[08:07] <bonzibuddy> you really dont got much for swap on that system tho
[08:07] <bonzibuddy> actually the memory is rpetty damned high
[08:07] <bonzibuddy> memory usage*
[08:11] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: pending what else is running on your system, you'll want to make sure the ram usage is waht you expect it to be
[08:14] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy: i think its fine since am doing a lot but i am suspecting its a bad idea to have less than 1gb left in memory
[08:16] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: yeah, esp with such low swap space
[08:16] <Tarminquay> What's the BENEFIT of Ubuntu vs Fedora?
[08:17] <Tarminquay> I'm reading rave reviews about Fedora 21.
[08:17] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: i think a rule of thumb is double your RAM for swap space
[08:17] <Mathisen> Tarminquay,  packet manager...
[08:18] <Mathisen> Tarminquay, read http://www.diffen.com/difference/Fedora_vs_Ubuntu
[08:20] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy: double your ram for swap how do you mean?
[08:21] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: your swap space is evidently ~262MB, your ram is ~4GB, the idea would be to set your swap to 8GB
[08:21] <amincd> anyone know how I can get the Boot-Repair-Disk USB to boot with nomodeset?
[08:21] <amincd> I'm a Linux newbie
[08:22] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy: greate thanks
[08:22] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus np
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> amincd: start from the beginning, what are you trying to do?
[08:24] <amincd> lotuspsychje: after an update, my system just crashed and went to grub command line. When I do a 'boot' command, it says "you need to load the kernel first"
[08:25] <amincd> I googled this and found that it probably means the update broke my grub
[08:25] <amincd> the fix is to run a boot-repair-disk USB/CD which will usually fix the boot problem
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> amincd: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset?
[08:26] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy:  i am not a server admin and can’t afford one now for my little app, i want to increase my swap is this step correct? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/how-to-change-swap-size-on-ubuntu-14-04
[08:26] <kingplusplus> am scared i might break something and can i do it with my program running?
[08:27] <amincd> lotuspsychje: 14.04, NVidia GeForce GTX 960M
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> amincd: wich driver do you have in use?
[08:27] <Tarminquay> It appears Ubuntu is superior
[08:27] <Tarminquay> to Fedora.
[08:27] <amincd> lotuspsychje: I don't know..
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> amincd: sudo lshw -C video
[08:28] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: usually a swapfile requires you to carve out space from a disk - I do not know how digitalocean does it.  Are you using digitalocean?
[08:30] <amincd> lotuspsychje: I'm getting a black screen with a grub command line when I boot up with my Ubuntu. When I do 'sudo *', I get: "can't find command 'sudo'"
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | amincd try to get here
[08:31] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy: i am using linode
[08:31] <amincd> lotuspsychje: this doesn't work because GRUB doesn't load
[08:32] <kingplusplus> bonzibuddy: from my control panel i am surprise i am can only increase to 256
[08:32] <bonzibuddy> kingplusplus: thats rough, but then linode would know their servers better than i would :P
[08:32] <bonzibuddy> never used them myself
[08:35] <Tarminquay> Yes, I concluded Ubuntu is a more stable distro than Fedora.
[08:36] <toothless> Anybody here to help me?
[08:37] <Ben64> you have to explain your issue first
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | amincd
[08:39] <toothless> I recently installed ubuntu 15.10 in my laptop. I was trying to install guake. It says "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:39] <toothless>  guake : Depends: python-glade2 but it is not going to be installed
[08:39] <toothless>          Depends: python-gconf but it is not going to be installed
[08:39] <toothless> "
[08:39] <amincd> lotuspsychje: yes, I'm following these instructions. One step is to boot the boot-repair-disk USB/CD, which I'm trying to do. It works when I boot the USB on my main machine so I know the USB works, but when I try it on the malfunctioning dual boot laptop, it goes to a black screen
[08:39] <toothless> what shall I do to over come this?
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> toothless: did you add ppa's?
[08:40] <toothless> @lotuspsychje yes I did
[08:40] <toothless> also it returned this : E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> toothless: remove ppa first and sudo apt-get update
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | toothless
[08:40] <amincd> Gallomimia recommended I boot with -nomodeset, but I don't know how to do that without terminal
[08:41] <toothless> you want me to remove all the ppa's and install it again?
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> toothless: installing packages with ppa's is not supported mate
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> toothless: use packages from the official repos instead
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | toothless try this
[08:42] <toothless> It was working fine in ubuntu gnome. here only I'm experiencing this issue
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> toothless: addind ppa's isnt supported on any ubuntu flavor
[08:44] <afidegnum> hello, should we use ubuntu 15 or 14 ?
[08:44] <toothless> oh
[08:44] <toothless> then how to install guake on ubuntu 15.10?
[08:44] <Ben64> afidegnum: there is no 15 or 14. there is 14.04, 14.10, 15.04, and 15.10
[08:45] <Ben64> toothless: sudo apt-get install guake
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !info quake | toothless like this
[08:45] <afidegnum> ah, what's the difference between the .04 and .10 versions?
[08:45] <Ben64> afidegnum: completely different versions
[08:45] <afidegnum> explain
[08:46] <Ben64> afidegnum: can't explain any more, they aren't the same version
[08:46] <EriC^^> !releases | afidegnum
[08:46] <DJones> afidegnum: Release date, 04 is an April release, 10 is an October release, the later the release, the newer the software is likely to be,
[08:47] <afidegnum> ah, ok, thanks,
[08:47] <EriC^^> afidegnum: 14.04 means released april 2014
[08:47] <EriC^^> 14.10 released october 2014
[08:48] <EriC^^> afidegnum: 14.04 is an lts release, it's supported til 2019, the others are just supported for 9 months since the release date
[08:48] <toothless> hey
[08:49] <afidegnum> ok, thanks, i will then use the 14.10
[08:49] <EriC^^> no that's not supported anymore
[08:49] <EriC^^> use 14.04 or 15.10
[08:50] <bonzibuddy> afidegnum: for stability, you will always want to use the LTS (.04) releases
[08:50] <afidegnum> i think 15.10 do not have much packages upgraded into it yet,
[08:50] <EriC^^> if you want new software use 15.10 ( you'll have to upgrade it after 8months though ), or 14.04 and it's supported til 2019
[08:51] <afidegnum> i willl go for this one,m
[08:52] <FJ> w
[08:54] <amincd> how do I do nomodeset without grub?
[08:56] <toothless> ho to remove broken packages in ubuntu 15.10?
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> toothless: read that ppa purge link
[09:00] <toothless> send it again. I lost it
[09:00] <toothless> !ppa
[09:01] <toothless> !ppa-purge
[09:01] <toothless> lotuspsychje : ho to reply you like you do to me? any shortcuts?
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !tab | toothless mean this?
[09:02] <toothless> lotuspsychje: yes gotcha
[09:03] <toothless> lotuspsychje: i dont know what ppa to remove to solve this broken package problem.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> toothless: check your sources mate
[09:04] <sruli> Hi, how do i create  a snapshot with virsh/libvirt of a single disk in a VM? the VM has multiple disks and I only want of 1 disk (os), this snapshot is to be taken with the guest turned off, until now i used vbox and there i had a script to detach the other disks, take snapshot, reattach, but "virsh detach-disk" does not work with guest turned off
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> sruli: ask in #vbox
[09:05] <toothless> lotuspsychje: how to do that mate?
[09:05] <styler2go> So, i am trying to run some java applet over xforwarding through ssh but it is extremly slow. What could the reason for that be? Programs not using java are WAY faster
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !sources | toothless
[09:05] <sruli> lotuspsychje:  ? i'm using KVM with libvert, why vbox? i am using on ubuntu (guest and host) why can i not ask here?
[09:06] <reza_sam> hi ...i have problem....some times i cant move my mouse'pointer easily...(it have abit pause in th way)
[09:07] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam is your entire desktop etc slow as well or just the mouse
[09:07] <bonzibuddy> ie windows take a long time to move or move in choppy motions
[09:09] <styler2go> It takes like 2 minutes for each click...
[09:11] <bonzibuddy> styler2go: same problem? how long does it take the terminal to open when you hit ctrl+alt+t
[09:11] <bonzibuddy> same problem as reza_sam(
[09:11] <bonzibuddy> *
[09:11] <styler2go> ? No, i don't think so
[09:12] <reza_sam> bonzibuddy>do u have my problem?
[09:12] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: no but ive had similar issues before
[09:12] <bonzibuddy> if youre using unity and you dont have 3d acceleration configured properly/available, it can make for a really slow experience
[09:12] <reza_sam> bonzibuddy>how do u can solve it?...i have powerfull laptop
[09:12] <bonzibuddy> or the computer could just be old as dirt
[09:13] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam is this a fresh install
[09:13] <reza_sam> bonzibuddy>yeahj
[09:14] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam how long does it take for the launcher to load
[09:15] <bonzibuddy> what im trying to figure out if its just your mouse somehow or your entire computer
[09:15] <toothless> lotuspsychje: thanks a lot buddy. *xoxo*
 4 sec
[09:16] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam can you enter the launcher, type "additional drivers", and select that
[09:16] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: see if there is a different recommended driver for your graphics card. this could be your issue
[09:16] <bonzibuddy> if 3d acceleartion is misconfigured, unity can slow right down
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> toothless: remove ppa sources, usudo apt-get update, reboot and install quake official way
[09:18] <ghost_> Hey, my friend isn't able to watch streams on twitch.tv with a fresh install. What does he have to do?
[09:19] <bonzibuddy> ghost_: recommend your friend use google chrome and/or html5 playback - could be a flash issue
 http://imgur.com/cS6MwNb
[09:20] <bonzibuddy> i know that has caused issues for youtube viewing, not too familiar with twitch myself but worth a shot
 http://imgur.com/cS6MwNb  i see it....((my graphic card is amd radeon))
[09:20] <ghost_> bonzibuddy: It works on my firefox without flash or anything
[09:20] <somsip> ghost_: your friend comes on here and asks. Very difficult to realy help through a third-party
[09:21] <toothless> lotuspsychje: y you are suggesting that option?
[09:21] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: is it a trackpad mouse or a usb mouse
[09:21] <ghost_> somsip: but you can try! we installed ubuntu yesterday, chat is working, stream's window is black.
 trackpad
[09:22] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: do you have the same issue with usb mouse?
[09:22] <bonzibuddy> are you able to test?
 i dont have usb mous now...
[09:22] <somsip> ghost_: I have less futile things to do. Others might guess at the perfect solution, but without asking questions and getting real answers, it may be a waste of time. Just get him on here so he can give real responses about the state of his system
 so i have this problem sometimes not all of time
[09:23] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam does the keyboard lag between keypresses as well
 no ,y keyboard is fix
 no my keyboard is fix
[09:24] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: can you try going launcher > type "trackpad" > mouse and trackpad
[09:24] <bonzibuddy> and try adjusting the speed/sensitivity
[09:25] <ghost_> somsip: o-kay, I'll get him in an hour or so
 what do i do?
[09:26] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam try adjusting the touchpad pointer speed
 its near to fast
[09:29] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam what is model #of laptop
 Z5170 lenovo its powerfulll....just i have this problem on ubuntu
[09:32] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam I am out of ideas but this may help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
 tnx but i have other problem...how can i understand that my graphic card is install or not
[09:34] <bonzibuddy> reza_sam: trial and error - you have the recommended driver, so thats a start.  there can be lots of fiddling and testing to see what works best
[09:35] <Mined> http://askubuntu.com/questions/72766/how-do-i-find-out-the-model-of-my-graphics-card
[09:35] <bonzibuddy> i'm not too experienced in that dept unfortunately
[09:35] <Mined> might help you bonzibuddy
 huum so tnx
[09:36] <Mined> we are here to help, don't worry bonzibuddy
[09:37] <bonzibuddy> Mined: reza_sam is the one having difficulty, I'm trying to help.. or at least, I tried everything i could think of :P
[09:40] <bonzibuddy> Mined: thx tho
[09:40] <Mined> bonzibuddy damn, morning brain, need more coffe
[09:40] <Mined> *palmface*
[09:41] <shadx> what is the name of ubuntu server channel?
[09:41] <bonzibuddy> Mined no worries i am in the same boat....
[09:41] <hateball> !server | shadx
[09:41] <DJones> shadx: #ubuntu-server
[09:41] <shadx> thx=)
[09:42] <Mined> check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList for more channels relating to ubuntu on freenode
[09:42] <shadx> allright:)
[09:47] <Pooh_> drupal
[09:53] <li_wsxacc> hi
[09:54] <li_wsxacc> hi
[09:54] <li_wsxacc> hi
[09:54] <li_wsxacc> hi
[09:54] <styler2go> So, i am trying to run some java applet over xforwarding through ssh but it is extremly slow. What could the reason for that be? Programs not using java are WAY faster
[10:04] <amnix> I just installed ubuntu 15.10. I have video tearing in VLC but not in Totem. Any ideas why?
[10:04] <bonzibuddy> styler2go x forwarding is already slow as is - local network or over the internet?
[10:05] <baizon> amnix: you need vsync
[10:05] <amnix> baizon: How is there no tearing in Totem?
[10:06] <baizon> amnix: its using vsync
[10:06] <baizon> amnix: which graphics card do you have?
[10:07] <Mined> styler2go isnt the encryption in SSH slowing down the speed?
[10:07] <amnix> baizon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14048300/
[10:08] <baizon> amnix: https://sn0v.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/solve-video-tearing-on-intel-ubuntu-xfce-4/
[10:09] <baizon> amnix: Option     "TearFree"       "true" <- this will solve your issue
[10:09] <cl0ckw0rk> Hey Guys! Have nice day,I've a question. Anyone producing music with Ubuntu? I used jak application and irig(which I used with ipad or idevices.) I connect rakarrack and irig correctly with jak guide. But if you know, irig has headphone output. When I plug my headphone on it, irig becomes headphone for my pc. Not the guitar interface anymore. And rakarrack try to get sound from hardware mic, not irig
[10:09] <amnix> baizon: I don't want to use that. That's the worst option ever. I hope it never existed. It ruins performance like hell.
[10:09] <baizon> amnix: then enable it in compiz
[10:10] <amnix> baizon: I'm just having issues in VLC and nowhere else. I don't want to have to sacrifice the performance of my entire system for that. Is there any way VLC can just work like Totem works out of the box?
[10:10] <styler2go> bonzibuddy: over the internet
[10:10] <styler2go> but like i said, other programs than java are fast
[10:11] <easyOnMe> hello anyone here knows how to uninstall TeamViewer 10 on ubuntu 14.04 LTS distro
[10:11] <baizon> easyOnMe: https://askubuntu.com/questions/565255/how-to-uninstall-teamviewer-deb-v10-0-036281-from-ubuntu-14-04
[10:12] <amnix> baizon: I don't mind using Totem if I have to... It's just that vlc is my favorite player and I can't seem to use it...
[10:12] <baizon> amnix: https://askubuntu.com/questions/88198/screen-tearing-while-watching-video
[10:12] <amnix> baizon: Tried that too... it makes unity behave really weirdly...
[10:13] <amnix> baizon: Could there be a setting in VLC that can get rid of the tearing?
[10:14] <epic> I am trying to configure ssl for my apache server, I did "sudo a2enmod ssl" but it seem my config in sites-enabled/default-ssl.conf is not read (wrong document root is used, logs end up in "other_vhosts_access.log" etc), how can i debug this?
[10:14] <amnix> baizon: By the way, I tried "OpenGL GLX video output (XCB)" in VLC. Doesn't work.
[10:15] <amnix> Anyone?
[10:16] <pmaxk> hi
[10:16] <amnix> VLC tearing. No tearing in Totem. What can I do in VLC to make it behave just like Totem?
[10:16] <easyOnMe> baizon: thanks
[10:17] <bonzibuddy> styler2go: yeah that will always be a slow go unfortunately.  I'd recommend at least VNC or ideally teamviewer if you can
[10:18] <styler2go> bonzibuddy: Running VNC right now and it is awesomly fast :) Sad that xforwarding is less performant, i really like that feature
[10:19] <bonzibuddy> styler2go: yeah! I like being able to just forward 1 window, but alas, slow as hell.  maybe there are configurations you could pursue to speed it up; i've never looked too depe into it
[10:19] <linuxuz3r> xD
[10:22] <yunus> hi, google-chrome-stable is killing my memory, please give me an advice for this
[10:23] <styler2go> bonzibuddy: If i close my vnc session, will the programs keep running?
[10:23] <bonzibuddy> styler2go: if its using an existing x session it will for sure (ie your existing desktop session)
[10:24] <styler2go> Nice.. Thank you :)
[10:24] <bonzibuddy> havn't tested for a new x session or anything like that myself
[10:28] <amnix> Here's my Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14048404/
[10:30] <krcevina> I have Ubuntu-Linux release based on Android 4.4.4 MSM kernel. Basically my kernel is Android 4.4.4. plus some 30 patches on top of it. And my root file system is pure Ubuntu utopic. Pretty strange, huh? Where is this connection Kernel-File system established if you get my point?
[10:32] <amnix> So I guess I'll just have to live with the tearing then?
[10:48] <Nurve> Pantelo
[10:49] <pmaxk> ela pv
[10:51] <amnix> Will using the intel graphics installer upgrade my intel drivers? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[10:51] <amnix> And hopefully get rid of the tearing?
[10:52] <amnix> ubuntu 15.10
[10:52] <ikonia> no
[10:52] <Ben64> probably will cause more problems
[10:52] <Guest90410> Habe ein problem. Kann keine datenpakete richtig herunterladen
[10:57] <ikonia> !de | Guest90410
[10:57] <Guest90410> Danke
[11:01] <MaFFaKKa> join #skien
[11:02] <MaFFaKKa> somebody knows a easy to use software for finding wep wpa wp2 passwords?
[11:02] <ikonia> ask the person who's access point it is
[11:02] <ikonia> we will not help you crack other peoples wifi
[11:04] <fep> MaFFaKKa, that has nothing to do with ubuntu distro
[11:04] <MaFFaKKa> sorry
[11:04] <pmaxk> MaFFaKKa: try to use yasm....
[11:05] <MaFFaKKa> so, what is this for? not all kind of support?
[11:05] <MaFFaKKa> thanks pmaxk
[11:05] <MaFFaKKa> ok ok ok
[11:05] <fep> MaFFaKKa, if you are goin to crack your own access point, try ##security or #hack
[11:05] <ikonia> MaFFaKKa: it's for support - not support doing illegal things
[11:06] <MaFFaKKa> munta?
[11:07] <ikonia> MaFFaKKa: ?
[11:08] <MaFFaKKa> whats yasm.. ?
[11:08] <pmaxk> ikonia:?
[11:09] <ikonia> pmaxk: please do not try to help people crack wifi
[11:10] <pmaxk> ikonia : for your info yasm is the acronym of app > you are smart....lol
[11:10] <ikonia> pmaxk: then don't mess around, he was clearly told "no"
[11:10] <pmaxk> ikonia : who?
[11:11] <ikonia> the guy asking about wifi
[11:12] <pmaxk> well some people must think twice....
[11:23] <upmauro> [80525.057988] webkit_server[2764]: segfault at 0 ip           (null) sp 00007fffd9611438 error 14 in webkit_server[400000+48000] ... how i fix it?
[11:27] <afancy> Hello, my server (Ubuntu 14) was hacked. It start a lots of process, e.g., "ls -la" (see http://snag.gy/LKV4f.jpg), but if I kill all of this "ls -la", it will automatically other processes and consume all CPU. Could anybody help me? thanks a lol
[11:28] <k1l> afancy: reinstall
[11:28] <afancy> re-install? no other ways?
[11:28] <k1l> if its hacked, no
[11:29] <k1l> and use stronger passwords and key auth. next time
[11:29] <afancy> k1l: i see. how can i find which program start these process
[11:29] <EriC^^> also keep it updated
[11:31] <jester-> afancy: try chkrootkit or rkhunter
[11:31] <k1l> afancy: they are started by root
[11:31] <k1l> jester-: will not help. now. there is only a reinstall since he cant know what was changed
[11:32] <jester-> sudo rkhunter --propupd restore db
[11:32] <afancy> k1l: yesday, i did a demo and open my firewall
[11:32] <afancy> k1l: now it i close
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:47] <krcevina> In simple language, what is the link between Linux kernel and root file system? I'm missing that link, that connection between the two.
[11:47] <afancy> jester-: Checking `bindshell'...                                     INFECTED (PORTS:  4000)
[11:47] <afancy> jester-: do you know how to fix it
[11:47] <jester-> afancy: none
[11:48] <k1l> afancy: there is no way to fix a hacked server. you dont know what they changed. so prepare for a reinstall
[11:48] <cfhowlett> afancy, this. ^^^
[11:48] <afancy> OK.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> take no chances, bite the bullet, reinstall.
[11:50] <afancy> Here is my check report: http://pastebin.com/PGSBgJ4T
[11:51] <cfhowlett> afancy, it matters not.  reinstall.
[11:51] <afancy> ok
[12:01] <simon^^> Hi! I just built a package with 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot' which takes ages. Now I had to change a few scripts mentioned in debian/install. How can I build a new package without recompiling (i.e. running make and make install)
[12:02] <simon^^> ?
[12:02] <fdsjk> Hello evrybocy! How can limit memory usage for whole system?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> fdsjk, why would you do that?
[12:06] <fdsjk> I think that I haveproblems in end of myRAM
[12:06] <cfhowlett> fdsjk, ram cards fail.  they can be replaced.
[12:06] <EriC^^> fdsjk: you can tell grub which parts of the memory are bad so the kernel doesn't use them
[12:07] <fdsjk> Eric, how do this?
[12:07] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/default/grub
[12:08] <EriC^^> GRUB_BADRAM=".......
[12:08] <fdsjk> I saw this
[12:10] <EriC^^> fdsjk: this explains stuff more https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BadRAM
[12:13] <hay207> hi guys, i have some info to add in this closed thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175980&page=2
[12:13] <hay207> can some admin open it?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> hay207, NO ONE is going to read a 6 year old closed thread.  make a new one.
[12:16] <hay207> but hardware won't change
[12:16] <cfhowlett> your point??
[12:17] <cfhowlett> hay207, if you want it to be read, make a new post.
[12:17] <hay207> i want to add some info on solving it
[12:19] <hay207> a new thread wil not keep forums organized, it's better to keep all info related to a specific hardware in one thread
[12:19] <hay207> as i see
[12:19] <ikonia> the forum is nothing to do witih this channel
[12:19] <ikonia> please contact one of the forum administrators
[12:19] <ikonia> however as 9.04 is EOL - no one will care how to install anything on it
[12:19] <eugenio_> Hi everybody, I was trying to have a coredump file from apache2, I set CoreDumpDirectory /tmp/apache-coredumps in the directive of apache2.conf, but the file it doesn't write there, ideas?
[12:19] <ikonia> so there is no point opening it
[12:20] <ikonia> eugenio_: how do you know it's core dumping ?
[12:20] <hay207> ok
[12:20] <ikonia> eugenio_: and keep in mind apache don't know where to dump it's own core
[12:22] <easyOnMe> hi
[12:22] <Mined> hi
[12:22] <easyOnMe> how do I update my gtk 2.0 to its most current version
[12:22] <hay207> i have  kubuntu os, can i open a topic in ubuntu's hardware forum?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> hay207, yes.
[12:22] <hay207> ok
[12:22] <BluesKaj> +
[12:23] <ikonia> easyOnMe: ubuntu will provide you with the latest package it supports for your version
[12:23] <easyOnMe> ikonia: yup but right now I got this message when I try to install Komodo IDE:
[12:24] <easyOnMe> install: warning: It appears that either your system does not have gtk-2.0 installed, or your system's version of gtk-2.0 is not up to date.
[12:24] <easyOnMe> Komodo requires version 2.24 or greater. Please update gtk-2.0. While Komodo will still install correctly, it may not run. This diagnostic is not fool-proof. If you are sure the package is installed and up to date, you may safely ignore this warning. Proceed? [y/N] n
[12:24] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what version of gtk do you have installed ?
[12:24] <easyOnMe> ikonia: honestly I do not know
[12:24] <easyOnMe> what command shall I issue on the terminal to know the version I have
[12:25] <ikonia> easyOnMe: so why don't you find out before deciding to upgrade
[12:25] <easyOnMe> what command shall I issue on the terminal to know the version I have
[12:25] <ikonia> easyOnMe: use software center, and it will show you the version of the package you have installed
[12:26] <Mined> easyOnMe or "dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 libgtk-3-0" in terminal
[12:26] <easyOnMe> Mined: thank you
[12:27] <easyOnMe> ikonia: I got this back
[12:27] <easyOnMe> ii  libgtk-3-0:i38 3.10.8-0ubun i386         GTK+ graphical user interface lib
[12:27] <easyOnMe> ii  libgtk2.0-0:i3 2.24.23-0ubu i386         GTK+ graphical user interface lib
[12:27] <easyOnMe> Mined: I got this back
[12:27] <easyOnMe> ii  libgtk-3-0:i38 3.10.8-0ubun i386         GTK+ graphical user interface lib
[12:27] <easyOnMe> ii  libgtk2.0-0:i3 2.24.23-0ubu i386         GTK+ graphical user interface lib
[12:27] <ikonia> easyOnMe: please use a pastebin to share data
[12:28] <ikonia> easyOnMe: as you can see though you have gtk 2.24
[12:28] <ikonia> so it meets your requirement
[12:29] <eugenio_> ikonia, sorry for this late answer, could you explain me better?
[12:30] <ikonia> eugenio_: "you have the software version you said you wanted"
[12:32] <eugenio_> ikonia, I was talking of apache 2.4.7
[12:32] <Scotter> Hello all, can anyone lend a hand to a semi-n00b? :-)
[12:32] <ikonia> eugenio_: sorry - I was talking to someone else
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !help | Scotter
[12:33] <ikonia> eugenio_: so keep in mind, if apache dies - it is dead, it doesn't know where to dump it's core
[12:33] <Scotter> Thanks ubottu, will keep this in mind! So I'm running an installed version (not live) Ubuntu 14.04.3 and everything disappears after reboot. Any ideas?
[12:34] <ikonia> eugenio_: you'll find that directive (I think) is for the modules apache load, eg: php, ssl etc
[12:34] <ikonia> Scotter: everything dissapears ?
[12:34] <ikonia> Scotter: what do you mean
[12:34] <Scotter> Yes, sorry I wasn't specific...all downloaded files, everything.
[12:35] <ikonia> Scotter: that seems unlikley
[12:35] <Scotter> It starts fresh, as if it were just installed.
[12:35] <ikonia> Scotter: either you are running a non-persistent configuration, or your using temporary storage like ram for your file system
[12:36] <Scotter> Okay, ikonia...I didn't know this was possible. How can I check which configuration is being used?
[12:36] <ikonia> Scotter: are you on the machine now ?
[12:36] <eugenio_> ikonia, I see, I suspect the segmentation fault I have on apache depends on mod_wsgi, somebody suggested me to debug the corefile, is not correct? will not find important information by debugging with gdb?
[12:36] <Scotter> Actually, I'm on a separate laptop
[12:36] <ikonia> eugenio_: depends if you can read C
[12:37] <ikonia> Scotter: does the machine that has the problem connect to the internet ?
[12:37] <anabain> Is there any way to get mounted usb devices on an nfs server box being "dynamically" shared to a nfs client?
[12:37] <eugenio_> ikonia, actually I don't know
[12:37] <Scotter> Ikonia, yes...the computer is connected to the internet. No problems there
[12:38] <eugenio_> ikonia, I was thinking to use the file with gdb debugger to find something interesting to pass the info to the appplication developers
[12:38] <ikonia> Scotter: on the computer could you do the following "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then do "df -h | pastebinit" and "mount | pastebinit" and give me the 2 URL's it spits out
[12:38] <ikonia> eugenio_: do that then
[12:39] <Scotter> sure thing Ikonia, give me a minute
[12:40] <eugenio_> ikonia, I would do it, but I cannot get the coredump from apache
[12:40] <eugenio_> ikonia, that's why I was asking here
[12:41] <ikonia> eugenio_: why do you think it's coredumping ?
[12:41] <eugenio_> ikonia, the developers of the application which is crashing on my server suggested me to debug the core file with gdb: http://sysadmin.carlusgg.com/?p=197
[12:42] <ikonia> eugenio_: is it coredumping though ?
[12:42] <eugenio_> ikonia, yes
[12:43] <ikonia> eugenio_: why do you think that ?
[12:43] <eugenio_> ikonia, what do you mean?
[12:44] <ikonia> eugenio_: how do you know it's core dumping ?
[12:45] <Scotter> okay ikonia, I think i've actually resolved the problem...this laptop is my friend's, and she was signed into the guest profile when she downloaded everything. Does the guest profile disable you from saving files?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> scotter it does
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Scotter  yup, i tried it too
[12:46] <Scotter> ah, okay. Easy answer then! :-)
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Scotter, she should save to a usb or other storage.
[12:46] <Scotter> save to usb, when using the guest profile...but when using the admin profile, it's okay to save locally
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Scotter, yep
[12:47] <eugenio_> ikonia, actually I don't know, somebody suggested me to perform this task, I was thinking should have been the right thing to do....my current situation is that I have a web application based on django, so it uses the apache mod_wsgi, during an operation on the web frontend I got a segmentation fault in apache2 error log. The developers suggested me to debug the apache seg fault and they suggested me the link I put above. I followed the instruction
[12:47] <eugenio_>  however the file in such directory has not been created.
[12:48] <eugenio_> ikonia, can you help me?
[12:48] <Scotter> thanks for the help, everyone!
[12:49] <ikonia> eugenio_: do you have all the debugging symbols installed for apache and the module you think is causing the problem ?
[12:49] <eugenio_> ikonia, I think yes
[12:50] <ikonia> eugenio_: don't think - check
[12:52] <linlin> ...
[12:53] <linlin> do you see my word?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> linlin, we see you.  ask your ubuntu question
[12:54] <eugenio_> ikonia, I got apache2-dbg, anythings else?
[12:54] <linlin> I have no question
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !cn | linlin
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> linlin  follow here bit and learn from what you read
[12:55] <ikonia> eugenio_: the module you think is dumping
[12:56] <linlin> My English is very poor
[12:56] <cfhowlett> linlin, see #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[12:56] <linlin> .....
[12:57] <eugenio_> ikonia, libapache2-mod-wsgi of course is present
[12:57] <ikonia> right, but he debugging symbols for it ?
[12:57] <eugenio_> ikonia, I don't see the package
[12:58] <ikonia> eugenio_: then you need to find out if it's in the existing package or a different name
[13:01] <eugenio_> ikonia, find it: libapache2-mod-wsgi-dbgsym
[13:01] <ikonia> well done
[13:04] <Arr0way> UBuntu doesn't support https for kickstarting ?
[13:05] <eugenio_> ikonia, unfortunately is not a already released package
[13:05] <eugenio_> ikonia, I don't want to create problemson server
[13:07] <ikonia> eugenio_: sorry ?
[13:08] <eugenio_> ikonia, I cannot install libapache2-mod-wsgi-dbgsym directly by using apt-get
[13:09] <eugenio_> ikonia, it doesn't exist for 14.04
[13:09] <ikonia> ok, so it stands to reason there would be a different version for 14.04
[13:09] <Ghost_r00t> if I want to hold my kernel to 3.13 that is right now. which packages should be apt-mark hold?
[13:25] <TomyWork> is it possible to install a package without marking it as manually installed?
[13:27] <TomyWork> Ghost_r00t trusty?
[13:28] <TomyWork> Ghost_r00t have you read this, yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:35] <xxd__> ?
[13:37] <Pratik_Patel> Hi, I am getting error "Could not find the program python3-config' so how can i fix it?
[13:37] <Pratik_Patel> i have python already installed.
[13:43] <orly_> k
[13:49] <Gallomimia> firefox won't load anymore. what do i do?
[13:50] <ikonia> Gallomimia: it's probably because an update has happened
[13:50] <ikonia> Gallomimia: reboot and I'll bet you find it works
[13:50] <Gallomimia> aw. last thing i wanna do right now :/
[13:50] <Gallomimia> thanks tho
[13:51] <rory> Gallomimia: "killall firefox" in a terminal
[14:04] <Guest58684> \disconnect
[14:08] <pbx> so this morning, the Back Up app says, "Creating the first backup."  I've been using it for about 18 months.  Then it fails with: http://dpaste.com/1X9WJ9P
[14:09] <pbx> Backups settings panel says correctly "Last backup was yesterday."
[14:10] <ikonia> pbx: backup app ?
[14:10] <huwjr> check your duplicity config?
[14:10] <huwjr> in /usr/share/pyshared/duplicity/globals.py
[14:10] <huwjr> check the network timeout etc
[14:10] <pbx> huwjr, didn't change the config at all.
[14:10] <huwjr> you’re probably going over lookback
[14:10] <huwjr> loopback*
[14:10] <huwjr> tcpdump
[14:11] <huwjr> check your /etc/hosts file for yesterday and today
[14:11] <pbx> huwjr, hasn't changed since May. i really don't think this is a config problem. probably shouldn't have bothered mentioning it.
[14:13] <huwjr> well have you installed anything that has updated python?
[14:13] <qinusty> Can anyone tell me what I need to look into about my touchpad being active while typing, its really annoying. Laptop: Dell XPS 13 9350. OS: Ubuntu 15.10. Kernel:  4.3
[14:13] <cfhowlett> qinusty, known problem.
[14:14] <qinusty> Is there a known fix?
[14:14] <huwjr> sounds to me like python has changed pbx
[14:14] <huwjr> that or you are connectiong out over your network interface instead of locally
[14:14] <huwjr> note localhost and 127.0.0.1 are different
[14:15] <pbx> ikonia, deja dup
[14:24] <jnott> i don't know how to ask this but: will glibc2.20+ ever be added to trusty's packages?
[14:26] <CtrlC> Hi, how can I get gcc 4.9 on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:26] <somsip> CtrlC: there is a PPA that offers other versions of gcc
[14:26] <somsip> !ppa | CtrlC
[14:26] <geirha> jnott: Pretty sure the answer is no
[14:26] <eugenio_> ikonia, hi again sorry for my latency, in the end can I do something to let apache creates the coredump file? (which is my principle problem)
[14:26] <CtrlC> Official? somsip
[14:27] <somsip> CtrlC:  WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages (as above)
[14:27] <CtrlC> I see.
[14:27] <CtrlC> Thanks.
[14:29] <jnott> geirha, reason i ask is this bug: https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15946 seems to wreck havoc on projects using the resolver
[14:29] <jnott> the pains!
[14:30] <jnott> anyways it's cool thx
[14:30] <geirha> jnott: fixes for serious bugs will be backported to whatever glibc-version trusty has
[14:31] <afancy> hi, how to remove a foreign connection to my server? "tcp        0      0 10.2.8.5:46224          107.189.130.76:3308     ESTABLISHED 15234/ls -la "
[14:31] <geirha> bu it won't bump the version, only the patch level
[14:31] <cfhowlett> afancy, did you reinstall?
[14:32] <afancy> cfhowlett: no, i just found a foreign connection to my server "tcp        0      0 10.2.8.5:46230          107.189.130.76:3308     ESTABLISHED 10084/route -n"
[14:32] <afancy> the ip addrerss 10.89.130.76
[14:33] <cfhowlett> afancy, your system is compromised.  you already know this.  reinstall.
[14:33] <somsip> afancy: if you are sure you want to do that, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-block-an-ip-on-my-linux-server/
[14:33] <teward> ^ that
[14:33] <teward> afancy: your system is possibly compromised, and I would erase your entire system and start over, in my opinion
[14:34] <afancy> teward: this server is not in charge of by me
[14:35] <Ghost_r00t> TomyWork: I am on xubuntu 14.04-1_amd 64. and i don't want to update my kernel passed 3.13.0-71-generic. because of neavou NVC1 fan speed bug. which is current till the last 4.13 kernel that I checked
[14:35] <kk_drop> I have problem with reaching the site: I can do ping host.dev, but when trying to do: wget http://host.dev I get error: Connecting to host.dev (pliik.dev)|127.0.53.53|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[14:35] <geirha> jnott: And it has been fixed:  apt-get changelog libc6 | grep -C10 'CVE-2013-7423'
[14:35] <teward> afancy: then you have to contact the people who own the server.
[14:36] <jester-> afancy: type whois 10.89.130.76 on terminal
[14:36] <jnott> i see... :(
[14:36] <jnott> thanks for the tips also i didn't know about apt changelog :P
[14:37] <Ghost_r00t> how could I lock my kernel not to be updated during system-wide update?
[14:37] <TomyWork> Ghost_r00t you should still be aware of the contents of that article so you know how ubuntu updates kernel packages
[14:37] <somsip> !pinning | Ghost_r00t
[14:38] <TomyWork> somsip i think Ghost_r00t is aware of the feature. he's looking for what to apply it to
[14:38] <Ghost_r00t> I want to hold not pin. the kernel but i don't know the exact package name or names to *apt-mark hold * them
[14:38] <Ghost_r00t> hold would do the job yes?
[14:39] <somsip> Ghost_r00t: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux (should list everything installed)
[14:39] <CtrlC> I'm trying to run a binary compiled on a debian on ubuntu 14.04 But I get this error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found
[14:39] <Tarminquay> Hello.
[14:39] <CtrlC> libstdc++6  is already installed.
[14:39] <Tarminquay> Notice: "During installation, connect it with LAN cable. WIFI did not work during installation."
[14:39] <Tarminquay> If I am trying to install Ubuntu off a USB stick, do I need an Internet connection?
[14:40] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: on
[14:40] <EriC^^> *n
[14:40] <EriC^^> *no
[14:40] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: no it is not needed
[14:40] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: All the files are on the USB stick?
[14:41] <Tarminquay> I purchased my Ubuntu from OS Disc.com in USB form.
[14:41] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: which ubuntu?
[14:41] <Tarminquay> Why then does the user say this: "During installation, connect it with LAN cable. WIFI did not work during installation."
[14:41] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: Yup. I did the exact thing that you are doing right now yesterday.
[14:41] <Tarminquay> Why do I need to connect with LAN cable?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Tarminquay  it's free on ubuntu.com
[14:41] <Tarminquay> EriC^^: I purchased 15.10 Ubuntu MATE.
[14:42] <Ghost_r00t> if you have internet connection during install. the packages would get updated and installed
[14:42] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: ok, well you dont need an internet connection to install it (unless it's a netinstall mini iso )
[14:42] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: And if I don't?
[14:42] <afancy> jester-: http://pastebin.com/CLgTdH52
[14:42] <Ghost_r00t> if not you have to do update afterward
[14:42] <Tarminquay> Okay.
[14:43] <Tarminquay> MonkeyDust: I purchased the USB because I don't have a Windows computer to make the boot disk.
[14:43] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: sudo apt-get update and dist update blabla....
[14:43] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: Do I need to know command lines like those?
[14:43] <Tarminquay> Or is there a GUI?
[14:43] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: all the files areon usb stick but not all are the newest version available
[14:43] <Tarminquay> I mean for those functions.
[14:43] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: it auto updates automatically
[14:43] <jester-> afancy: wois has identified your friend
[14:44] <afancy> jester-: yes, so, how could i remove it?
[14:44] <Tarminquay> Also, do you recommend I update the BIOS before I install Ubuntu?
[14:44] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: no; first time after install and with internet connection you face a window telling you that some updates are available and you just say yes
[14:44] <afancy> jester-: if i kill the process, it will automatically generate a new one
[14:44] <Tarminquay> I read the firmware on the Intel NUC I am using comes 9 months old from the factory.
[14:45] <jester-> afancy: the bet way would be block it with firewall
[14:45] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: that is a virtue depond on you but i would if i were you.
[14:45] <teward> afancy: i think you're failing to read the information being provided.  Blocking the user on that IP address is ***NOT A GUARANTEE***
[14:45] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: What's the benefit of the latest firmware?
[14:45] <teward> afancy: the system is compromised.  That means there's likely OTHER back doors they can use to get in
[14:45] <EriC^^> teward: +1
[14:45] <teward> afancy: without a reinstall, your system remains compromised, and there could be malware on the system, or illegal items, etc.
[14:45] <cfhowlett> which is why we so strongly advocate reinstallation ...
[14:45] <Ghost_r00t> not is not related to ubuntu. unless you are sitting on an old hardware
[14:45] <teward> afancy: so either contact the administrator of the server and inform them that they need to reinstall BECAUSE it's compromised
[14:46] <teward> afancy: or panic, because you're helpless in this case because it's not your system
[14:46] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: hardware support and maybe EFI
[14:46] <Tarminquay> EFI = ?
[14:46] <teward> afancy: regardless of who the person is you've been compromised - reinstallation will erase the compromise and start you anew, THEN you can set up your firewall brand new in a way that will prohibit unauthorized access to services running on ports.
[14:46] <jester-> afancy: as all you have said the best way to fix the problem is a new installation
[14:47] <teward> afancy: without the clean reinstallation you're going toget breached again by another IP.  And another IP.  And potentially another IP.
[14:47] <afancy> jester-: well, i know re-installation solve the problem. But, i dont own this  server
[14:47] <teward> afancy: then CONTACT the person who DOES own the server
[14:47] <teward> afancy: and inform them that the server is COMPROMISED and should be reinstalled cleanly
[14:47] <EriC^^> afancy: it only makes sense to reinstall..
[14:47] <teward> afancy: ESPECIALLY if the server is not yours, you should be talking to the administrators when you find this kind of thing
[14:48] <cfhowlett> afancy, you might want to advise the owner that this is probably a priority
[14:48] <teward> afancy: the MOMENT a server is compromised, the person who DOES own the server is liable for whatever the server is being told to do by that compromiser.
[14:48] <MACscr> did i just disable this service from automatically starting or did it just state that an startup link doesnt exist? http://pastie.org/pastes/10636134/text?key=mvzsl8twaufflytdp8phqq
[14:48] <teward> afancy: and I recommend a "HIGH PRIORITY" email indicating to the administrator the system ***is compromised and may be being used to distribute malware, illegal items, or any other malicious actions***
[14:48] <mgolisch> afancy: how does that make any difference?
[14:49] <teward> afancy: and that they should erase and reinstall the OS as soon as possible, and take additional steps to secure their system
[14:49] <jester-> afancy: miracles God makes them and the girls of 200 months old
[14:49] <jester-> lol
[14:49] <teward> afancy: again, whether you own the system or not, it is ***your duty*** to tell the administrator things like this, and the actual owners.
[14:49] <teward> and i'm sorry if i seem annoyed at your handling of this, but I am - i'm an IT Security guy, I routinely have to tell people this when they asked me to try and id if they got compromised, and sometimes they were
[14:50] <teward> and IT Security 101: If you're already compromised, chances are the same compromise is in use by other malicious threat actors as well, and even if you block one IP, they'll get past it with proxies or VPNs, or any thousands of other mechanisms
[14:51] <teward> or have another threat actor attack you instead
[14:51] <teward> because you're still compromised, and haven't resolved the issue.
[14:51] <Ghost_r00t> Tarminquay: new BIOS replacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[14:52] <Ghost_r00t> what are the packages names for kernel and its initrd ?
[14:52] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: I don't want to update the BIOS.
[14:52] <Tarminquay> Ghost_r00t: Any harm leaving it as it ships from the factory?
[14:53] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: that's a good idea, i think bios stuff is sort of messy and might brick the system, never done it myself though
[14:53] <EriC^^> Ghost_r00t: linux-image-<version>-generic
[14:53] <EriC^^> and the linux-image-extra-<version>-generic
[14:54] <Tarminquay> EriC^^: Interesting. I left my router's firmware alone and I've never had a problem.
[14:54] <EriC^^> Tarminquay: yeah that's what i mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it ;)
[15:00] <littledwarf> .
[15:07] <mister_clue> Hello :)
[15:10] <cfhowlett> afancy, if I recall, you have know of the system breach for HOURS now .. and you STILL have yet to advise the owner.  Knowingly.
[15:10] <TinFury> Can anyoen help
[15:10] <TinFury> Grub2 is not saving default anymore
[15:10] <TinFury> This happened after I upgraded to windows 10
[15:11] <TinFury> It ALWAYS defaults to Ubuntu and doesn't remember last choice....
[15:11] <TinFury> It used to work fine
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> TinFury  yes, windows is known to ruin grub... you'll have to repair it
[15:11] <TinFury> Setting haven't changed.
[15:11] <OerHeks> TinFury, then reset it as default, and update-grub
[15:11] <TinFury> MonkeyDust, How? I checked my config and rand update-grub
[15:11] <TinFury> Oh reset to default first? how?
[15:12] <OerHeks> TinFury, what comes first now, windows bootloader?
[15:12] <TinFury> OerHeks, Grub2
[15:13] <TinFury> GRUB_DEFAULT="saved"
[15:13] <TinFury> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT="TRUE"
[15:13] <TinFury> These 2 lines are in my /etc/default/grub
[15:13] <TinFury> and I rerun update-grub
[15:15] <TinFury> i'll remove with purge and reinstall
[15:16] <TinFury> hmmm i'm trying to remove with apt-get purge grub2 and it says it's not installed.
[15:17] <TinFury> I must have installed grub2 some other way. how can i find out? I know i didn't by src
[15:17] <OerHeks> i would just reinstall grub
[15:18] <TinFury> can i just apt-get install grub2 over what I have?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> TinFury, your installer/ubiquity installed grub by default
[15:18] <wachin> Hi to all. Some os yours install kdenlive in Ubuntu 15.10? I install UbuntuStudio 15.10 where kdenlive come by default but not have icons
[15:18] <TinFury> ok so can I just apt-get install over it?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> wachin, ask in #ubuntustudio
[15:20] <OerHeks> TinFury, yes, apt-get install --reinstall
[15:20] <TinFury> Ummm. i did it without waiting for an answer... let's see if it will reboot.
[15:20] <TinFury> oh
[15:20] <OerHeks> but it should take the same spot, i think
[15:21] <TinFury> see you back in 2 min or maybe hours if it didn't take.
[15:21] <TinFury> lol
[15:23] <jimmy> anyone here?
[15:24] <genoma> https://irc.anonymousbrasil.com/?channels=AnonymousBrasil#sthash.5OmnBR0r.dpuf
[15:24] <OerHeks> genoma, please don't spam, thanks.
[15:25] <TinFury> Nope didn't work
[15:26] <OerHeks> genoma, anonymous url with a tracking cookie, silly :-D
[15:33] <TomyWork> "apt-mark hold facter" gives me "facter was already set on hold." (which is correct), followed by "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[15:34] <TomyWork> that's true for any package that's set to hold. this is on an ubuntu 12.04 where i want to programmatically set some holds and then do a system upgrade
[15:36] <vicsar> .
[15:37] <nick__> ciao
[15:38] <nick__> uhi
[15:38] <nick__> ciao
[15:38] <nick__> exit
[15:41] <rogerrgr> how i remove the canoncal spyware tho?
[15:42] <nicomachus> rogerrgr: there is no canonical spyware. are you referring to the online search scopes in the dash?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> spyware?
[15:42] <rogerrgr> nicomachus, sends my searches to amazon!
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> rogerrgr  disable amaon search
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> amazon*
[15:42] <nicomachus> System Settings --> Security & Privacy
[15:43] <rogerrgr> MonkeyDust, ok but y it dont ask during install?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> rogerrgr  spying with you knowing it, that's not spying
[15:43] <nicomachus> rogerrgr: it's going to be disabled by default in the next LTS release.
[15:43] <rogerrgr> MonkeyDust, it didnt tell me! i had to look up on google
[15:43] <cfhowlett> rogerrgr, labeling it "spyware" is FUD.  don't like it, don't use.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> rogerrgr  sometimes, canonical has Bad idea's too
[15:44] <rogerrgr> cfhowlett, it sending user specific data to 3rd party thats spyware bro
[15:44] <jester-> obviously amazon give money
[15:44] <rogerrgr> next lts is 2016?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> sounds like spyware to me, and I'm not the paranoisd type ...amazon has no business knowing yours
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> rogerrgr  jester- not that discussion again, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <OerHeks> rogerrgr, it is not sending user data, but you know best
[15:45] <jester-> ok
[15:45] <rogerrgr> Lol... God you guys are easy to troll ^_^
[15:46] <rogerrgr> But seriously they are finally disabling it by default?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> rogerrgr, if you wnat to troll , go somewhere else
[15:46] <nicomachus> rogerrgr: yes in 16.04. but that's not a discussion to be had here.
[15:46] <nicomachus> feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:46] <OerHeks> "but seriously".. ha ha ha
[15:47] <rogerrgr> Cool, good to know. Maybe I'll try out *buntu then.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> glad kubuntu doesn't have spyware , at least not any I'm aware of :-)
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> windows has some spyware, iirc
[15:49] <rogerrgr> MonkeyDust, windows has tons of it. Especially 10.
[15:53] <TomyWork> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1258958 i found the bug report for the segfault i mentioned earlier. no solution yet => workaround time :/
[16:00] <TomyWork> can i disable core dumps for a process?
[16:03] <ubuntu748> can you upgrade from non LTC version to LTC easily by few command lines without any other hassles?
[16:03] <cfhowlett> depends ubuntu748
[16:04] <cfhowlett> you can go from 15.10 to 16.04
[16:04] <cfhowlett> what version do you have right now?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ubuntu748, do you mean LTS?
[16:04] <ubuntu748> cfhowlett: Im thinking of installing 15.10 now and upgrading to 16.04 when it comes out, do you think it will be a easy upgrade?
[16:05] <Seveas> ubuntu748: should be
[16:05] <OerHeks> sure
[16:05] <daftykins> that's not LTS to LTS.
[16:05] <cfhowlett> ubuntu748, yeah, should be pretty painless.
[16:05] <OerHeks> backup data & always prepare an USB with the latest iso before upgrading ;-)
[16:05] <cfhowlett> daftykins, he asked about non-LTS to LTS upgrade
[16:05] <daftykins> oh yeah
[16:06]  * daftykins misread
[16:06] <ubuntu748> this will be non-LTS to LTS upgrade, so still no problems?
[16:06] <ubuntu748> 15.10 is not LTS and 16.04 will be LTS
[16:07] <cfhowlett> ubuntu748, if you upgrade during the service window, it's a normal procedure.  if you miss the window you have to do an EOLupgrade.  (Hint: do not miss the window)
[16:07] <ubuntu748> i just want the usual upgrade from command line to work without any hassles
[16:07] <OerHeks> No known issues yet, ubuntu748, but check the releasebnotes before you do
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ubuntu748, you were asked what you use now
[16:07] <ubuntu748> I use elementaryOS atm, getting really tired of it
[16:07] <OerHeks> we understand :-D
[16:07] <axtx> http://viewpure.com/7LtjzQaFZ3k?start=0&end=0
[16:08] <cfhowlett> ubuntu748, understand completely
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ubuntu748, do you have / and /home partitions?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> ubuntu748, try this: install 14.04.3 (LTS) NOW and upgrade to 16.04 when it comes out.
[16:08] <ubuntu748> it was supposed to be "seemless to use" it's actually opposite, I miss Ubuntu so much but couldn't go back before vacation started
[16:09] <ubuntu748> cfhowlett: So I shouldn't install 15.10?
[16:09] <reactormonk> Can I have an ubuntu LTS chroot running via an arch kernel? Is there an ubuntu debootstrap?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> ubuntu748, if you want LTS, 14.04.3 is what you can do immediately, then go to 16.04 in April.  Come back from the Elementary side.
[16:09] <daftykins> lol elementary.
[16:10] <ubuntu748> cfhowlett: I really don't care about LTS just I can upgrade easily from each version to new, I always want the newest Ubuntu
[16:10] <nicomachus> yes you can easily upgrade.
[16:11] <ubuntu748> Cool thanks will go and do that now, and yea elemtaryOS sucks so bad, don't try it
[16:11] <cfhowlett> yes, yes, let your ubuntu flow ....
[16:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu748, ubuntu has got a setting, lts > lts or upgrade to any new version, so you can choose from 16.10 to do what you want.
[16:12] <ubuntu748> OerHeks: Thanks, then I will just install 15.10 now and upgrade to 16.10 when it comes out
[16:15] <scaldwell> Hey.  Has anyone seen any issues with hotplug on Ubuntu12.04 when adding memory to a VMware virtual machine?
[16:15] <Tarminquay> Hello!
[16:16] <daftykins> adding RAM whilst it's on? not something i'd try to do :)
[16:16] <Tarminquay> I am buying an MSI CUBI CELERON 3205U.
[16:16] <Tarminquay> Is this fully supported by Ubuntu?
[16:16] <MinedAWAY> I've tried that
[16:16] <scaldwell> hotplug is supported by the linux kernel...has been for years.
[16:16] <daftykins> you claimed to have bought a Gigabyte Brix earlier...
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777395] ACPI:memory_hp:add_memory failed
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777533] ACPI:memory_hp:Error in acpi_memory_enable_device
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777595] acpi_memhotplug: probe of PNP0C80:00 failed with error -22
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777618]
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777619]  driver data not found
[16:17] <scaldwell> [24975277.777681] ACPI:memory_hp:Cannot find driver data
[16:17] <MinedAWAY> But vmware needed to reboot the guest machine
[16:17] <daftykins> don't paste in here.
[16:17] <nicomachus> daftykins: he was *demanding* answers about the realtek driver last night, I think he got turned off to the idea of the gigabyte brix.
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !paste | scaldwell
[16:17] <daftykins> nicomachus: ah i see, sounds like a tough customer.
[16:17] <nicomachus> demanding and entitled to exactly what he wants.
[16:18] <cfhowlett> *demanding* ?  auto - add to /ignore
[16:18] <Sakui> how can I rebuild the home directory of gnome. I'm unable to login at all.
[16:18] <scaldwell> Either way...  The vmware ESX host has added the memory without any issue.  The Ubuntu operating system sees the memory but has left it in an offline state.
[16:19] <daftykins> scaldwell: what makes you claim that?
[16:19] <scaldwell> When I use "cat /sys/devices/system/memory/memory136/state" it sees the new memory
[16:19] <daftykins> scaldwell: what RAM sizes were you going from and to - and what's the "uname -a" output from the VM?
[16:20] <TomyWork> scaldwell afaik, you can only reduce memory, but not add new memory
[16:20] <scaldwell> This server is on ubuntu 12.04 with a Linux 3.2.0-40-generic kernel
[16:21] <scaldwell> We are going from 16GB to 24 GB
[16:21] <TomyWork> reducing memory would work via the balloon device which just locks physical pages for itself and tells ESX they're free to throw away
[16:21] <scaldwell> Right.  But I am not trying to reduce memory.  I need to scale up the memory.
[16:22] <daftykins> scaldwell: that's not quite the information i asked for, i score that a 2 out of 3
[16:22] <scaldwell> I am trying to avoid a maintenance window this weekend.
[16:22] <daftykins> then your problem is with vmware, not with ubuntu imo
[16:22] <daftykins> the idea of live adding RAM just asks for trouble
[16:22] <scaldwell> How so, daftykins?
[16:22] <daftykins> can you give the requested output?
[16:23] <mYhOmEs> ------> //ns identify password | m $+ s $+ g mypass <---- help me about command!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:23] <daftykins> looks like 3.2.0-95 is current
[16:24] <scaldwell> I just found the fix.  ...kernel 3.2.39 has the fix.
[16:24] <scaldwell> That explains why I don't see this problem on the Ubuntu 14.04 machines
[16:24] <daftykins> scaldwell: just let it update to the latest
[16:24] <scaldwell> It only affects Ubuntu 12.04
[16:24] <daftykins> linux-generic should allow -95 on
[16:25] <scaldwell> ubuntu 3.2.0 doesn't have the fix
[16:25] <daftykins> you sure? sometimes things like that are backported
[16:26] <scaldwell> I will look through the release notes and see if it backported.
[16:26] <TJ-> scaldwell:  3.2.0-40.64 Ubuntu-3.2.0-40.64 == mainline 3.2.40
[16:26] <scaldwell> Nice to know TJ
[16:26] <scaldwell> Thanks!
[16:26] <mYhOmEs> "//ns identify password | m $+ s $+ g mypass" Help me plz!
[16:26] <TJ-> scaldwell: complete table here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html
[16:27] <boxmein> mYhOmEs: wait what
[16:27] <TJ-> scaldwell: do you have the commit ID for the 'fix' - I can check it is in that release for-sure
[16:32] <Soul_Sample> any idea why changing the interface font through any program throws me back to the login screen?
[16:33] <jjlx> I am unable to use my touchpad. I have these weird messages in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14051984/
[16:37] <nicomachus> jjlx: what's the hardware?
[16:38] <jjlx> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14052092/
[16:39] <daftykins> jjlx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260880
[16:42] <arch-nemesis> all the cool ubuntu talk is going on in #brobuntu
[16:43] <arch-nemesis> brobuntu best buntu
[16:43] <cfhowlett> well that's cute.  THIS channel is for technical support.
[16:47] <howtosed> hi. what's the best method to extract data from a HTML file? I want to get everything between two tags including the tags
[16:47] <DirtyCajun> open it in your favorite text editor
[16:47] <howtosed> from the command line
[16:47] <daftykins> grep...
[16:47] <howtosed> i should have said
[16:47] <daftykins> also that's not really OS support :)
[16:48] <DirtyCajun> XD
[16:48] <jjlx> daftykins: Parsing HTML using regex is a bad idea.
[16:48] <howtosed> what jjlx said
[16:48] <howtosed> i need to get everything between <tbody> and </tbody>
[16:48] <daftykins> not sure anyone mentioned regex yet
[16:48] <jjlx> howtosed: I'm not sure if this is the right channel for you to be asking this.
[16:49] <howtosed> ok, any recommendations jjlx ?
[16:49] <DirtyCajun> just open it in nano howtosed.
[16:49] <howtosed>  /ignore DirtyCajun
[16:49] <daftykins> DirtyCajun: i think the idea is to achieve the task programmatically, not a one-time thing
[16:49] <jjlx> howtosed: ask in #programming
[16:49] <howtosed> thanks. bye
[16:50] <DirtyCajun> he asked a vague off topic question then ignores me when i give him a valid answer to see the data. kids these days
[16:51] <daftykins> DirtyCajun: no your response was useless for the reasons i said
[16:51] <howtosed> DirtyCajun: your answers were just useless and boring
[16:51] <howtosed> no creativity at all
[16:51] <daftykins> lets move on now
[16:51] <howtosed> sure
[16:52] <daftykins> howtosed: you can /part now that you know you're in the wrong place :)
[16:52] <howtosed> ok, thanks ;)
[16:52] <jjlx> daftykins: Should I try this method for my touchpad? http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:52] <daftykins> i believe i already provided a link with a response.
[16:53] <Tarminquay> Hello
[16:53] <Tarminquay> Can I install Ubuntu using USB 3.0?
[16:53] <jjlx> daftykins: Yeah, had a look at it. I don't want to disable i2c.
[16:53] <cfhowlett> Tarminquay, yes
[16:53] <Tarminquay> My Intel NUC has no USB 2.0 port. Good to know.
[16:53] <Tarminquay> When did that change?
[16:53] <DirtyCajun> tarm keep in mind the usb device matters
[16:53] <DirtyCajun> i have a 3.0 that works and a 3.0 that just will not boot.
[16:54] <daftykins> jjlx: no it was removing that brand of i2c module, not the whole i2c functionality... re-read it.
[16:55] <Tarminquay> DirtyCajun: WHy
[16:55] <jackcom> Trailing characters: ruler^M  <—— what’s wrong?
[16:55] <DirtyCajun> i cant give you a difinitive answer but my personal opinion is the access to the MBR of the usb drive.
[16:55] <jackcom> E488 : Trailing characters: ruler^M  <—— what’s wrong?
[16:56] <jackcom> me? DirtyCajun
[16:56] <DirtyCajun> no tarm jack
[16:56] <daftykins> MBR would be irrelevant for EFI boot
[16:56] <DirtyCajun> ^and thats why my answer isnt difinitive
[16:57] <DirtyCajun> there are much smarter than me in here
[16:57] <jjlx> daftykins: I'm actually using a dell 7348 so the answer on askubuntu seems to be the most relevant in my case. I think I'll go with that. Thanks for the help though.
[16:57] <howtosed> just back to say sorry to CacheMoney
[16:57] <howtosed> DirtyCajun*
[16:57] <DirtyCajun> <3
[16:57] <howtosed> i couldnt figure it out and got annoyed when someone didnt give me the answer i wanted
[16:57] <howtosed> at least you tried to help me. so thanks
[16:58] <daftykins> howtosed: cut the off topic chat now thanks
[16:58] <howtosed> ok
[16:59] <unity_> hello
[16:59] <unity_> i have a problem.
[16:59] <daftykins> !details
[16:59] <jjlx> howtosed: there's a library known as beautiful soup for python that you might want to check out. It's for parsing html.
[16:59] <howtosed> yea jjlx thanks, i found that one. does exactly what i need
[16:59] <trism> jackcom: if you imported a text file from windows, the line endings use carriage return + line feed, but linux just uses the line feed, so you see the ^M for carriage return. you can use fromdos and todos in the tofrodos package to convert between them
[16:59] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:00] <howtosed> daftykins: what is your opinion on the current oil embargo in Armenia?
[17:01] <jackcom> i don’ understand it : fromdos and todos in the tofrodos package trism
[17:01] <daftykins> howtosed: grow up.
[17:01] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:01] <reactormonk> What's the easiest way to get systemd 209 on trusty?
[17:02] <trism> jackcom: it is a package: sudo apt-get install tofrodos; then for your text file, say it is text.txt you would enter: fromdos text.txt; in a terminal and it would remove the carriage returns from the line endings
[17:02] <daftykins> reactormonk: it wasn't used back then so i think you'd better wait for 16.04
[17:02] <reactormonk> daftykins, I'll just go with a vivid - apparently systemd-nspawn requires 209 at least in the client container
[17:02] <jjlx> daftykins: Is 16.04 going to be released with unity 8 by default?
[17:02] <jackcom> trism: thanks :)
[17:02] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:03] <nicomachus> !patience | unity_
[17:03] <nicomachus> jjlx: no.
[17:03] <daftykins> jjlx: i'm the wrong person for that
[17:03] <unity_> ok sorry nicomachus
[17:03] <algirdas> Hello, maybe someone could help me enable Zend Thread Safety?
[17:03] <jjlx> nicomachus: No? Sure?
[17:04] <prasas> good evening
[17:04] <nicomachus> jjlx: positive. you can discuss 16.04 in #ubuntu+1 if you'd like.
[17:10] <unity_> my unity tweak tool settings are not saved, can anybody help me with that?
[17:10] <Guest12962> hmm
[17:11] <karstensrage> i have a vanilla ubuntu 14.04 server … i want to build something that has autotgen.sh, configure, make
[17:11] <karstensrage> is there a top level package that installs everythign I need or do i have to install everything seperately
[17:12] <rww> build-essential, perhaps?
[17:12] <Guest12962> sudo apt-get install tweak-tool
[17:12] <nicomachus> unity_: what version of ubuntu are you running, and how did you install unity tweak tool?
[17:13] <unity_> nicomachus: running 14.04, and unity tweak tool was already installed
[17:14] <jjlx> unity_: you can try reinstalling it if that helps
[17:14] <unity_> jjlx: i already did
[17:15] <nicomachus> unity_: does it clear out your settings on reboot, or just not apply them at all?
[17:15] <unity_> nicomachus: it doesn't apply them at all.
[17:17] <kubuntu-kde> hello
[17:17] <nicomachus> unity_: ok. try this: in a terminal, type "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active false" and then "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active false"
[17:18] <nicomachus> scratch that, second command should be "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active true"
[17:19] <nicomachus> sorry
[17:19] <rypervenche> karstensrage: Also, depending on what it is, there may already be a package out there that you can use. If not, I would use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" when running the last command.
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: that changed my text stly
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: style
[17:20] <nicomachus> unity_: you did both commands? setting false and then true?
[17:20] <unity_> nicomachus: should i reboot now? because like that it doesn't work
[17:21] <unity_> nicomachus: yeah, the text style changes were applied after the first command. i was thrown to the lock screen
[17:21] <kubuntu-kde> unity remove tweak tool and install again
[17:21] <unity_> kubuntu-kde: i did already
[17:21] <nicomachus> unity_: you were thrown to the lock screen. so were you able to input the second command?
[17:22] <unity_> nicomachus: yes, after i entered my password and started another console
[17:22] <kubuntu-kde> i am using kde
[17:22] <nicomachus> ok. and did that revert the text style changes?
[17:22] <unity_> nicomachus: nope
[17:23] <nicomachus> eek. give it a reboot, see if that reverts it.
[17:23] <unity_> nicomachus: okay then
[17:23] <karstensrage> rypervenche: sorry what do you mean another package i can use?
[17:24] <karstensrage> build-essentials didnt give me autoreconf
[17:24] <rypervenche> karstensrage: Well, the first question we need to ask is what program are you trying to compile and install?
[17:25] <unity_> nicomachus: unity tweak tool still doesn't apply changes.
[17:26] <nicomachus> unity_: are you the only user account on that machine?
[17:26] <unity_> nicomachus: yes
[17:28] <ioria> karstensrage, do you have   autoconf pkg ?
[17:29] <karstensrage> ioria: i had to install dh-autoreconf
[17:29] <ioria> karstensrage, ok
[17:30] <nicomachus> unity_: can you paste the output of "ls -al ~/" in a pastebin and link that here?
[17:30] <unity_> wait a second...
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> Reventlov: have you been able to solve your gtx issue yet?
[17:32] <unity_> nicomachus: paste.ubuntu.com/14053115/
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Helllo
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Is Ubuntu going to be slow with a Celeron 3205U and 4 GB of ram?
[17:34] <Tarminquay> Should I use an i3 5000U?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Tarminquay
[17:34] <daftykins> Tarminquay: please take the topic to ##hardware as it is not OS support.
[17:34] <Tarminquay> What's that for?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> Tarminquay: there is a flavor for every need
[17:35] <Tarminquay> Which flavor is recommended for a Broadwell Celeron 3205U at 1.5 GHz?
[17:35] <bazhang> !requirements | Tarminquay
[17:35] <OerHeks> Tarminquay, test it. why asking without seeing it yourself?
[17:36] <Tarminquay> Those system requirements are VERY low.
[17:36] <Tarminquay> You really think someone would be happy with those system requirements?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Tarminquay, personally the i3 intel is a better experince here
[17:37] <Tarminquay> BluesKaj: But the Celeron box is $220 CAD. The i3 box is $380 CAD. That's a big incease in price, you see. I wonder if it's worth it for my non-power needs.
[17:38] <mcphail> Tarminquay: I understand you are exited about receiving your new computer and Ubuntu USB stick, but this is the Ubuntu Support channel, and is not a forum for theoretical problems or issues
[17:38] <xangua>  "For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu"
[17:38] <unity_> nicomachus: any idea?
[17:38] <mcphail> *hypothetical
[17:38] <nicomachus> unity_: I'm a bit stumped, tbh
[17:39] <ioria> unity_   do you have :  unity-webapps-service  and  unity-webapps-common  installed ?
[17:39] <unity_> ioria: how do i check that
[17:39] <ioria> unity_   dpkg -l   packagename
[17:39] <BluesKaj> Tarminquay, well, that's your call...I got adeal on the lenovo laptop with intel i3 cpu. gpu and audio
[17:40] <unity_> ioria: i do have both of them
[17:41] <ioria> unity_   maybe a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-tweak-tool/+bug/1157704
[17:41] <unity_> ioria: they are not even applied in the session
[17:42] <ioria> unity_   are you updated ?
[17:43] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean by that? newest ubuntu version??
[17:43] <ioria> unity_   no, upgrade , dist-upgrade
[17:43] <unity_> ioria: oh, yes i am
[17:44] <ioria> unity_   can you paste ther output of    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  ?
[17:45] <unity_> ioria: everything yes, but i can still paste
[17:45] <ioria> unity_   no, ok
[17:45] <ioria> unity_   you can try creating a new user ...
[17:46] <unity_> ioria: :(
[17:46] <ioria> unity_   just for test , so we'll know something more
[17:46] <reza_sam> Hi...how can i move up panell to down?
[17:47] <unity_> ioria: is a guest account enough?
[17:47] <ioria> unity_   i'm afraid not.... setting are lost, not sure
[17:48] <xangua> reza_sam: what panel? if you mean Unity, the possition is fixed
is there any desktop looklike windows 98 for linux?
[17:48] <k1l> reza_sam: install xubuntu
[17:48] <ioria> reza_sam, maybe ... :þ idk
taskbar...i wanna send it to botton
tnx
[17:49] <lrs> So my computer freezes randomly
 so i test it :)
[17:49] <lrs> And it gives me this error message
[17:49] <k1l> reza_sam: that is not possible with unity (the standard desktop for ubuntu). install xubuntu
[17:49] <lrs> After i shutdown manually and reboot
[17:49] <lrs> http://imgur.com/a/qrmsg
[17:49] <k1l> reza_sam: the package is "xubuntu-desktop"
[17:49] <lrs> Anyone know what to do?
[17:50] <TJ-> lrs: please don't use Enter as punctuation, all on one line where possible.
tnx and wanna download manager too
[17:50] <k1l> reza_sam: browsers have own downloadmanagers
[17:50] <lrs> TJ-, OK
[17:50] <ioria> reza_sam, have a read http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/174396-make-linux-look-like-windows-95-98-a.html   :p
 tmx :)...
[17:50] <unity_> ioria: i dont know the password...
 wanna look like IDM
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: i dont use a external downloadmanager so i cant tell you one
[17:51] <ioria> unity_   of what ?
[17:51] <unity_> ioria: of the new created account
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/554062/how-i-can-install-internet-download-manager-on-ubuntu-14-04
[17:51] <k1l> reza_sam: but there is not really a need for such thing, imho
[17:51] <ioria> unity_    how did you do that?
[17:52] <unity_> ioria: in the system settings i added a new user
[17:52] <TJ-> lrs: did you send the error report so a bug is registered in Launchpad?
[17:52] <unity_> ioria: but i wasn't asked for a password
 i wanna have temporal download...so i need download manager
[17:52] <lrs> TJ-, A 100 times
[17:52] <lrs> Ive had this problem for like  4 months
[17:52] <lrs> And sometimes I dont get an error message whe ni shut down
[17:52] <TJ-> lrs: do you have the bug number, or a link to it?
[17:52] <lrs> If i send it away
[17:53] <lrs> Do i get it then?
[17:53] <ioria> unity_    sudo passwd  'username '
[17:53] <lrs> Im on the screen there right now
[17:53] <sukeesh> #reza_sam axel download manager is good
[17:54] <lrs> TJ-, Should I press continue?
huum tnx
[17:54] <unity_> ioria: ok now i'm logged in
[17:54] <TJ-> lrs: yes, please do. I can't find any bug reports with the title shown in your screenshot right now
[17:54] <lrs> TJ-, Ok, I pressed continue now
[17:55] <ioria> unity_    let's try some simple setting...
[17:55] <ioria> *s
[17:56] <unity_> ioria: still not saved
[17:56] <Lokie> lubuntu 15.10 again systemd doesn't allow suspend / reboot / etc
[17:56] <Lokie> what steps can I take to find what stops it and  fix it?
[17:56] <ioria> unity_    have you already rebooted ?
[17:56] <unity_> ioria: oh wait a second
[17:58] <lrs> TJ-, My guesses is that there is something wrong either with the graphics driver, sound driver, touchpad/keyboard or the resume/suspend thing... But which one I have no idea. The problem is that it freezes completely at random when Im using the computer. Ive tried to use it with touchpad disabled and usb keyboard, and havent had it crash then. But I have no idea if thats the problem... The error here seems to point towards th
[17:58] <lrs> e audio pulse driver? Basically everything freezes on the screen but the stuff keeps on working, sound playing and I assume all the other processes but the image is frozen.
[17:59] <lrs> Before, sometimes I could make it reset by shutting down the lid and then being able to log out and then log in again, but i disabled that right now to see if htats the problem. So now i just have to shut it all down
[17:59] <lrs> And then sometimes it gives me that error when i reboot
[17:59] <unity_> ioria: doesn't work
[17:59] <TJ-> lrs: that sounds like a graphics failure. Your screeshots show a Kernel Oops - which is a severe failure in the kernel, we need the bug report because it will have all relevant log files attached
[17:59] <unity_> ioria: settings are deleted upon closing the tweak tool
[17:59] <lrs> TJ-, How do you find it? I sent it away
[17:59] <ioria> unity_    dpkg -l compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:00] <unity_> ioria: i know that i have it
[18:00] <unity_> ioria: compiz works fine
[18:00] <TJ-> lrs: usually when you post the bug it should open a local web browser on the bug report page so you can details of what you were doing when the failure happened. It could be there's already the same bug report by others and so instead of creating a new bug report it simply added a 'me too' to that
[18:03] <lrs> TJ-, That has never happened for me
[18:04] <ioria> unity_    dpkg -l compiz-plugins-extra
[18:05] <unity_> ioria: not sure how to interprete that, it says "un" in the beginning
[18:06] <TJ-> lrs: I've found a large number of the same kind of bug, with duplicates, which is probably why
[18:06] <ioria> unity_    you don't have it...
[18:06] <lrs> TJ-, Wow, nice.
[18:06] <lrs> Whats the link?
[18:06] <unity_> ioria: so?
[18:07] <ioria> unity_    you can try to install ...
[18:07] <ioria> sorry, brb
[18:09] <unity_> ioria: ok i did
[18:10] <lrs> TJ-, Did you find any link for the bug? Cant find any
[18:12] <TJ-> lrs: the master is bug 1054732 but the kernel versions across all those reports vary so much its more of a catch-all for the prior suspend/resume issue - it doesn't cover a freeze-up of the display.
[18:13] <unity_> ioria: now?
[18:14] <lrs> TJ-, I think this might be it
[18:14] <lrs> "2 - If I shut the lid, which is set to "do nothing", the system will sometimes but not always lock up when I re-open the lid. This may be due to a separate cause."
[18:15] <lrs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1084960 < Here
[18:15] <lrs> Yes
[18:17] <Lokie> so systemd-inhinit lists xfce4-power-manager as block(ed)
[18:17] <kai_____> anybody know what the application called "anonymous" on backbox?
[18:17] <Lokie> what can I do?
[18:18] <k1l> !backbox | kai_____
[18:18] <slidinghorn> hi everyone
[18:18] <k1l> better ask them, kai_____
[18:19] <kai_____> k1l: thanks
[18:20] <emadhelmi> is there any python channel in freenode?
[18:20] <emadhelmi> i have some python questions
[18:20] <OerHeks> #python
[18:21] <OerHeks> !python
[18:21] <emadhelmi> #python
[18:21] <rory> emadhelmi: I'm interested in what channels you tried before deciding to come here and ask
[18:23] <emadhelmi> OerHeks, When i try to send a massage it sys me i am un registered
[18:24] <OerHeks> emadhelmi, oh that is possible, register your name with freenode, some channels require that to avoid spambots and such
[18:25] <OerHeks> !register
[18:25] <OerHeks> we are an open channel, our choise :-)
[18:25] <Lokie> should systemctl -i suspend override the inhibit?
[18:26] <emadhelmi> OerHeks, How to do that sir?
[18:28] <unity_> ioria: no idea?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: maybe the #lubuntu guys know whats going on?
[18:33] <AlexQ> Hi. My Xubuntu stalls for a quite long moment when booting up: there is no disk usage during that time, but the splash screen animation is active. Can't see anything in dmesg though. How should I check what's wrong? It used to boot very fast earlier.
[18:33] <AlexQ> *quickly
[18:33] <EriC^^> AlexQ: press esc while it boots to see the msgs
[18:34] <AlexQ> EriC^^: That simple? I thought I should modify the kernel cmdline before booting :D Okay, let me check
[18:34] <AlexQ> exit
[18:40] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I managed to hit Esc before that period, splash screen disappeared, but there was only black screen and messages reappeared for a second or so only after the booting resumed. There you go with dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054477/
[18:40] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Should I disable graphical boot/splash screen altogether? And how should I do it properly?
[18:40] <Myrtti> AlexQ: maybe you should do a bootchart
[18:40] <Myrtti> so you'd really see where it's hanging
[18:41] <sruli> TJ-: did you file a bug regarding the PAM close_session issue or should i file?
[18:41] <AlexQ> okay dokay
[18:42] <EriC^^> AlexQ: you could try removing quiet splash from the kernel line in grub and putting verbose
[18:42] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Guess I'll do that and bootcharting simultaneously, see what happens.
[18:44] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I also have a parameter $vt_handoff in kernel cmdline, what is that about?
[18:45] <EriC^^> i have no idea, i guess something to do with the tty's
[18:46] <sruli> how can i take snapshot with virsh/libvirt of disk only, VM has multiple disks but i only want snapshot of 1 disk, i tried to "virsh detach-disk" before snapshot but it does not allow while VM is off
[18:46] <ioria> unity_    nothing changed ?
[18:46] <AlexQ> reboot then
[18:48] <fabio> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $Home/.xchat2
[18:48] <capitancrunch> how to monitor battery from console/terminal?
[18:50] <xpto> Hey! Does anyone work with nortel vpns in linux?
[18:51]  * capitancrunch says Hello!
[18:53] <slidinghorn> capitancrunch: first, upower -e      to find your /org/.....   then upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0   <~~replace that path with whichever path the 1st command gives you
[18:53] <davidmichaelkarr> I noticed in an article that talks about "swapon" that it prints a "recommendation" to have 600 perms for a swap file, if it isn't set to that. I just went through an exercise to create a swap partition, and perms on the swap file were 644, but it didn't print that recommendation. Anyone know anything about this?
[18:55] <F-L-Y-E-R> Hello all, can someone help me: I am new to dedicated servers, I'm now using Remmina remote to operate it, so the question is: If I close remmina processes that are running on my server will keep running?
[18:55] <AlexQ> Chart created, but ends at 29 seconds, but booting to desktop takes around 2.5 minutes :( Where should I post that SVG file?
[18:56] <unity_> ioria: no :/
[18:56] <ioria> unity_    how did you install unity-tweak-tool ?
[18:56] <nicomachus> ioria: he says it was "already installed"
[18:56] <unity_> ioria: it already was installed
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    mmmmm
[18:57] <nicomachus> yea...
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    don't think so
[18:57] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: As far as I know, remmina is just to access the server...it would have to be running in order for you to connect to it in the first place, and should continue running after you exit remmina
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    apt-cahce policy unity-tweak-tool
[18:57] <ioria> unity_    apt-cache policy unity-tweak-tool
[18:58] <unity_> ioria: where do i paste that
[18:58] <ioria> unity_    paste.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <F-L-Y-E-R> slidinghorn, so it doesn't matter what type of connection I chose because you can select different types, I chose VNC
[18:59] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: are you sure you want to waste the ressources on a server for running a desktop? why not use ssh as login per cli?
[19:00] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054858/
[19:00] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, I'm using it for the first time and have no knowledge, also I'm not good in ubuntu so I need to see what is going on
[19:00] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Could you have a look at that? http://pasteboard.co/59bDhFM.svg+xml
[19:01] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: what is the server's purpose?
[19:01] <ioria> unity_    it's all the output ?
[19:01] <F-L-Y-E-R> slidinghorn, to compile android ROM
[19:01] <unity_> ioria: yes
[19:01] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: you dont need a desktop for that
[19:01] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: its just terminal commands anyway.
[19:02] <ioria> unity_    should be like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054891/
[19:03] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, yes but I wanted to set up and I already opened it up and started to sync the source, so that's why I'm asking if I close it, it will stay running?
[19:03] <unity_> ioria: well yeah i forgot the first line saying unity-tweak-tool:
[19:03] <unity_> ioria: but that's it
[19:03] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: dont know about remmina. on ssh no, it will just stop. that is why you use screen on server
[19:04] <ioria> unity_    it's not only the first line... but ok
[19:04] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, what is screen on server?
[19:04] <unity_> ioria: ok i'll paste again then
[19:04] <ioria> unity_    ok
[19:05] <k1l> !screen | F-L-Y-E-R
[19:05] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14054946
[19:05] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: it will keep your terminals open on the server if you lose connection.
[19:05] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, so it means that I cannot shut down my pc under any cirmustances?
[19:06] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: in short: login per ssh, start a screensession with "screen -S name_here" then do your commands, logout of the screen with "ctrl+a+d" then if you want to reconnect login with ssh, on the server do "screen -r name_here"
[19:07] <sruli> F-L-Y-E-R: read k1l message carefully, u can shutdown ur PC
[19:07] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: if you use your server not as a server, dont suspect to act like a server.
[19:08] <ioria> unity_    well, the point is that unity-tweak-tool does not come preinstalled ...
[19:08] <unity_> ioria: soo??
[19:08] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i dunno much about that to be honest
[19:08] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Okay, I had to remove that $vthandoff to see messages apparently. I had something
[19:08] <EriC^^> ok
[19:08] <ioria> unity_   so... something weird happened
[19:09] <unity_> ioria: what do i have to do then
[19:09] <ioria> unity_   do you have for any changed tried gnome-tweak-tool ?
[19:09] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Took a pic, it said sth like that: "A start job is running for dev-disk-by\....\...\....\....\...device (45s / 1min 30s)
[19:09] <ioria> *for any chances
[19:10] <ikonia> AlexQ: someone was talking about this ealier, it was a bug with systemd mounting swap
[19:10] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1s, well I closed remmina and then came back again and all on screen tabs that I opened were running browser etc
[19:10] <unity_> ioria: i don't think so
[19:10] <unity_> ioria: i read about it though
[19:10] <EriC^^> AlexQ: is your swap mounted right now? type free -m
[19:10] <ioria> unity_   uname -r
[19:10] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1s, I'm a windows user and use ubuntu for building ROMs so now I had a chance to win dedicated server but I still need to boot ubuntu to operate it anyway
[19:10] <EriC^^> seems this encrypted swap bug is pretty common..
[19:10] <AlexQ> ikonia: I actually don't have any swap atm. Windows 10 installer thought that it was free space when installing, for some reason xD
[19:11] <ikonia> I think it was BluesKaj who noted it
[19:11] <unity_> ioria: 3.19.0-39-generic
[19:11] <ikonia> AlexQ: if you do "swapon -s" what do you see
[19:11] <EriC^^> AlexQ: well that would explain it, systemd is still trying to find it and it's taking longer to mount
[19:11] <EriC^^> *to boot
[19:11] <lrs> TJ-, Hey, sorry. Had to go for a while. So what do you suggest?
[19:11] <lrs> TJ-, Ive tried to reinstall and uninstall loads of different nvidia divers
[19:11] <nicomachus> ioria: grep unity-tweak /var/log/apt/term.log | pastebinit?
[19:11] <ioria> unity_   ^ nicomachus
[19:12] <ikonia> I'd never heard of the bug before and it doesn't happen on my systems, but when I looked into it, the bug looks real
[19:12] <unity_> ioria: hahaha
[19:12] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: running a desktop on a server produces a lot of overheat. i really suggest to just use the ssh login with screen. since there is nothing to "look at " either terminal windows. which is the same if you look at them trhough ssh on your laptop.
[19:13] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, thanks I will try this but anyway now I'll need to wait till sync is over not gonna take that long anyway
[19:13] <unity_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055099/   ioria nicomachus
[19:14] <nicomachus> so it was installed with apt-get, then.
[19:14] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, so are there anything like screen for windows?
[19:14] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: you dont need that on windows
[19:15] <k1l> or is this a windows server?
[19:15] <ioria> unity_   let's try to purge it ...
[19:15] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, no it's ubuntu server
[19:15] <slidinghorn> F-L-Y-E-R: so you're logging into the ubuntu server FROM windows?  you can use PuTTy for that
[19:15] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: so login with ssh on that server. then start the screen session like i described
[19:15] <ioria> unity_   sudo apt-get purge unity-tweak-tool
[19:15] <k1l> F-L-Y-E-R: to use ssh on windows, use something like "putty"
[19:16] <unity_> ioria: restart after?
[19:16] <ioria> unity_   log out , log in and we'll reinstall
[19:16] <EriC^^> AlexQ: type cat /etc/fstab , and sudo blkid and paste the results
[19:16] <F-L-Y-E-R> k1l, oh sorry I thought screen needs to be run on my personal machine... Ok no more questions
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: ikonia: free -m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055130/  swapon -s / sudo swapon -s : nothing
[19:17] <unity_> ioria: ok
[19:17] <unity_> ioria: done
[19:17] <ioria> unity_   try to aou-hide the launcher
[19:17] <ioria> unity_   try to auto-hide the launcher
[19:18] <AlexQ> EriC^^: /etc/fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055178/ sudo blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055190/
[19:18] <unity_> ioria: do i have to do the logout after the installation??
[19:18] <ioria> unity_   no
[19:19] <unity_> ioria: still doesn't work :(
[19:19] <EriC^^> AlexQ: type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:19] <sruli> F-L-Y-E-R: k1l: when i need to SSH and dont have access to a linux machine i have been using an extention in chrome https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhechapfaindjhompbnflcldabbghjo/related?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon  like it much better then putty
[19:19] <ioria> unity_    apt-cache policy unity-tweak-tool   again please
[19:19] <AlexQ> EriC^^: ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055215/
[19:20] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055224/
[19:21] <EriC^^> AlexQ: looks like the swap is gone
[19:22] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i guess you have to resize one of the partitions to make a swap
[19:22] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I told you, Win10 thought that it was free space in that extended partition and made its' NTFS volume larger, even though there already was a NTFS logical partition prepared :D
[19:22] <ioria> unity_    can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?     you can install pastebinit and do  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[19:23] <EriC^^> :D
[19:23] <OerHeks> unity_, looks like you have no unity then, maybe ubuntu gnome/mate/xubuntu
[19:23] <slidinghorn> sruli: that's still in its beta, though, and its description says it's known to have bugs...probably not a good recommendation for someone who's never used a terminal before
[19:24] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055266
[19:24] <k1l> honestly, i would not use any webbased ssh tools.
[19:24] <slidinghorn> ^^ +1
[19:24] <unity_> OerHeks: i installed the ubuntu package when i was using xubuntu
[19:24] <unity_> OerHeks: but everything works fine except of unity tweak tool
[19:24] <sruli> slidinghorn: good point, i was only stuck without a linux machine a handfull of times thats home many times i used that plugin, worked fine
[19:25] <ioria> unity_    you are Xubuntu ?
[19:25] <unity_> ioria: yes do i have to reinstall?!
[19:26] <ioria> unity_    wt.....
[19:26] <unity_> ioria: ??
[19:26] <OerHeks> lolz, no, logout, change DM to unity, and login
[19:26] <ioria> unity_    you can't use unity-tweak-tool on Xubuntu
[19:26] <OerHeks> then unity tweak will work
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Actually it is not friendly at all, you have to have that empty space on the beginning of your drive as well. I only succeeded because I assumed it is needed, as previous installations had this. I had an empty 512 MiB NTFS as first partiton and another empty NTFS logical partition for the OS, but it did not want to go forward, so I removed that first empty NTFS partition and swap partitions disappeared from the installers' list :D Crazy. But fortunately X
[19:27] <fabio>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[19:27] <unity_> ioria: no no i am running ubuntu
[19:27] <teward> AlexQ: (message cut off)
[19:27] <k1l> fabio: dont do that commands in a channel, do them in the server window.
[19:27] <unity_> ioria: ok it was like that: i had xubuntu, then i downloaded the ubuntu packages and when i went to the login screen i could switch to ubuntu. now ubuntu is working.
[19:27] <AlexQ> teward: Ahh, nevermind, just complaining about Win10 installer.
[19:28] <ioria> unity_    # deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr
[19:28] <anticore> hhey guys, i'm having troubles setting up my backup policy. i can find documentation on how to setup full and incremental backups but i can't seem to find how to only do incrementals on certain directories. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:28] <anticore> this is using backuppc
[19:28] <ioria> unity_    apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:28] <unity_> ioria: that's what i did
[19:29] <AlexQ> EriC^^: So can I disable swap on boot up so that systemd won't search for it? And how does it know precisely how long it takes from the very beginning? It just goes from 0 to 1m 30 and then continues xD
[19:30] <AlexQ> EriC^^: There is no HDD activity reported by the LED at all. Not a single blink
[19:30] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah, you can comment out the swap in /etc/fstab
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah it's probably just waiting for it, then it gives up and continues
[19:31] <EriC^^> AlexQ: maybe you can make a swap file
[19:34] <scaldwell> daftykins, TJ thanks for the insight earlier.  Just having someone to bounce the issue off of got one problem solved today.  I appreciate the assist. ;-)
[19:35] <ioria> unity_    sorry... running out of ideas ...
[19:36] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Oh thanks, I thought that it will be automatically detected when swap disappears. So I have to add it to /etc/fstab manually after I create that partition? Or is there an automatic way to do it?
[19:37] <django_> hey all im trying to do: pip3 install selenium what command can i put so it has permission
[19:37] <django_> i keep on forgeting :(
[19:37] <AlexQ> sudo?
[19:37] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah you need to replace the uuid in /etc/fstab after you make the swap with mkswap
[19:38] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah sudo mkswap /dev/sdxY ( after you create a partition for the swap )
[19:38] <EriC^^> ( dont mkswap /dev/sda obviously )
[19:38] <unity_> ioria: :/
[19:39] <ioria> unity_    anything else is working ?
[19:39] <unity_> ioria: i just want to change the location of the icons hahaha
[19:39] <unity_> ioria: compiz works just fine
[19:39] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Ehh, I removed the line instead of commenting it out. So mkswap won't add it automatically to fstab? Or other tool?
[19:39] <Finetundra> Hey folks, is there any reason that rhythmbox would refuse all audio files?
[19:39] <texla> 14.04.3..How to resize parition /dev/sda1...want to reduce to 40,000  using gparted
[19:40] <k1l> texla: boot a live dvd/usb
[19:40] <slidinghorn> Finetundra: what do you mean by "refuse"?
[19:40] <EriC^^> AlexQ: nope, mkswap only makes the partition a swap
[19:40] <EriC^^> and gives it a new uuid, then you add that uuid to /etc/fstab
[19:40] <avz> So this is what IRC looks like...
[19:40] <OerHeks> Finetundra, install restricted-extras for codecs & webplugins and such
[19:40] <Finetundra> OerHeks: I'll get on it!
[19:41] <OerHeks> !restricted
[19:41] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Well, whatever, I have that on paste.ubuntu.com, so I can copy from that and modify UUID, and I guess device file as well, should it change
[19:41] <avz> Why is windows 8 so annoying. Each time I update grub, It hogs the first spot in Boot Order so that it boots up instead of GRUB menu. ugh
[19:42] <EriC^^> avz: that's to do with grub not windows
[19:42] <k1l> avz: siwtch the bootorder in bios to the disk where ubuntu/grub is installed
[19:42] <EriC^^> that's not default btw
[19:43] <avz> It appears only in the boot menu. But not in the boot order selector in the BIOS menu, unfortunately
[19:43] <EriC^^> avz: oh, nevermind, misread
[19:43] <AlexQ> avz: Go to /etc/grub.d/
[19:43] <avz> is that an IRC channel?
[19:43] <EriC^^> avz: i think that has to do with uefi
[19:43] <avz> yes i have uefi
[19:44] <EriC^^> avz: every time i update win10 it boots as well
[19:44] <avz> i tried disabling it but it still boots to win8
[19:44] <EriC^^> avz: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[19:45] <avz> oh that might be because you used the temp fix of replacing the windows efi file with grub file
[19:45] <EriC^^> and pastebin in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:45] <EriC^^> ah i've helped you with that?
[19:45] <avz> ill try that soon. thanks for your help
[19:46] <AlexQ> avz: So you mean that it _DOES_NOT_ start GRUB then, it just ommits omits it and goes straight to Windows, just to clarify?
[19:46] <EriC^^> same thing happens here, when i update win10 it overwrites the efi file again and i have to back it up again and copy grub over it
[19:46] <avz> yes goes straight to win8
[19:47] <EriC^^> avz: did you replace the file or have i helped you with it?
[19:47] <avz> i replaced the file as a temp fix
[19:47] <EriC^^> oh ok
[19:48] <avz> ill enter the command you gave me when im ready to restart. my internet connection is too shaky right now
[19:51] <ioria> unity_     notify-osd  is installed ?
[19:51] <unity_> ioria: i don't know
[19:52] <ioria> unity_     apt-cache policy  notify-osd | grep Installiert
[19:53] <unity_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14055665/
[19:53] <drakum> Holas
[19:55] <ioria> unity_    pass
[19:56] <unity_> ioria: was?
[19:56] <unity_> ioria: what?
[19:56] <ioria> unity_   no other ideas :|
[19:57] <unity_> ioria: :/
[19:57] <unity_> can i somehow switch the position of the close/minimize buttons without the tool
[19:57] <ioria> unity_  no, it's hardcoded
[19:58] <unity_> ioria: -_-
[19:58] <OerHeks> ioria +1
[19:58] <ioria> OerHeks, :^.^:
[19:59] <ioria> unity_  but the other controls should work ...
[19:59] <unity_> ioria: which controls do you mean?
[20:00] <ioria> unity_  with the exception of the Windows control buttons... the other settings should work
[20:00] <unity_> ioria: the settings of the unity tweak tool???
[20:00] <ioria> unity_  yes
[20:01] <unity_> ioria: and how? e.g. changing the mouse cursor theme
[20:01] <ioria> unity_  i mean  'All  the other settings'
[20:02] <ioria> unity_   like hiding the Launcher
[20:02] <unity_> ioria: i don't get it
[20:02] <OerHeks> changing themes might require logout/login
[20:02] <ioria> unity_   have you tried to auto-hide the Launcher ?
[20:02] <unity_> ioria: no because i don't want it to autohide
[20:03] <ioria> unity_  it was a test ....
[20:03] <ioria> unity_  to see if it's working ...
[20:03] <OerHeks> oh, those autohide settings are in systemsettings itself
[20:04] <ioria> unity_  unity-tweak-tool -> Laucnher -> Auto-hide
[20:04] <unity_> ioria: yeah that one works
[20:04] <unity_> ioria: what about the mouse cursor theme
[20:04] <ioria> unity_  &5$554%4££%%
[20:05] <unity_> ioria: what?! hahaha
[20:06] <ioria> unity_  brb
[20:06] <unity_> ioria: ok
[20:09] <samsamsam> I am using rsync and to sync some folders I need elevated permission which I can do using sudo -i. How to do this using rsync?
[20:10] <ioria> unity_  unfortunately you cannot change the Minimize Close buttons on Unity ... you can do on other DE
[20:11] <unity_> ioria: what about the mouse pointer
[20:11] <ioria> unity_  Cursors
[20:12] <unity_> ioria: yeah
[20:12] <ioria> unity_  not working ?
[20:12] <OerHeks> "what about" is a strange demanding way of asking
[20:12] <unity_> ioria: you mean in the unity settings??
[20:13] <ioria> unity_  in unity-tweak-tool
[20:13] <unity_> ioria: it doesn't work there
[20:13] <unity_> ioria: well the settings are recognized correctly but not applied immediately
[20:14] <ioria> unity_  what do you want to do exactly with your pointer ?
[20:14] <OerHeks> again: changing themes might require logout/login
[20:14] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean??
[20:15] <ioria> unity_   changing shape ? color ? what ?
[20:15] <unity_> ioria: there are those installed themes and i'd like to change them
[20:16] <ioria> unity_   have you logout /  login after ?
[20:17] <unity_> ioria: yes.
[20:18] <ioria> unity_   you want to install new themes ?
[20:19] <unity_> ioria: i already have them. i just can't activate them
[20:20] <ioria> unity_    from ppa ?
[20:21] <unity_> ioria: i don't know anymore
[20:21] <ioria> unity_    you have to put them in a folder ,  .themes  ,   in your home
[20:22] <ioria> unity_    or use a ppa , like this  ppa:numix/ppa
[20:22] <unity_> ioria: when i use unity tweak tool they are listed, but after selecting them they are not loaded
[20:26] <ioria> unity_    which theme exactly ?
[20:26] <unity_> ioria: whiteglass
[20:30] <ioria> unity_    working for me...
[20:30] <unity_> ioria: did you restart in between??
[20:31] <ioria> unity_    no
[20:31] <unity_> ioria: well that's weird
[20:32] <ioria> unity_    go in unity-tweak-tool -> Icons -> Whiteglass   and see if nautilus changes
[20:33] <unity_> ioria: what do you mean by nautilus
[20:33] <ioria> unity_    in the launcher the nautilus icon will (should) change ....
[20:34] <ioria> unity_    nautilus is the file manager
[20:34] <reza_sam> hi...i have this problem again....some times cant move my mouse's pointer easily with my tochpad :(
[20:34] <unity_> ioria: oh yeah it does change
[20:34] <ioria> unity_    so it's working....
[20:34] <unity_> ioria: but the mouse pointer stays the same when changing the mouse icons
[20:37] <ioria> unity_    yeah...
[20:38] <dustinr> why is ubuntu always giving me system program problem detected at startup?
[20:38] <EriC^^> dustinr: press show more
[20:38] <dustinr> oh
[20:38] <dustinr> i haven't done that
[20:41] <ioria> dustinr, ls /var/crash
[20:41] <unity_> ioria: afk, dinner
[20:41] <reza_sam> plz help me guys...some times cant move my mouse's pointer easily with my tochpad
[20:42] <ioria> unity_    ok... maybe today ....
[20:42] <ioria> unity_    ok... maybe tomorrow
[20:44] <LX> hello
[20:44] <reza_sam> hello
[20:45] <LX> its my first time for years beeing in an IRC chat.
[20:45] <furkan> for the past few months, i've been getting repeated segfaults with some programs (chrome, pidgin, texworks), does anybody have any tips about how i could figure out if there's anything in common between them?
[20:45] <reza_sam> so its good :)
[20:46] <nicomachus> LX: welcome. This channel is strictly for ubuntu support. free chat can be done in #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode
[20:46] <furkan> here are 3 screenshots: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mx5wati3rpyzzsi/Screenshot%20from%202015-12-09%2002-32-21.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/umc5slu0eapgg2d/Screenshot%20from%202015-12-15%2015-50-28.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/30gxsj26my8jhvl/texworks.png?dl=0
[20:46] <LX> OK, nicomachus
[20:46] <nicomachus> furkan: did that perhaps start when you did a kernel upgrade?
do u can help me?
[20:46] <RoadRunner> you can "throw" a file manager window at the edge of the screen and have it resize automatically to occupy 1/2 the screen.  Is that a feature of Unity or of Compiz specifically?
[20:46] <nick__> hi
[20:47] <furkan> nicomachus: i'm pretty sure it started happening after i upgraded to the 15.10 beta, so i suppose yeah that would have coincided with a kernel upgrade
[20:47] <slidinghorn> reza_sam: does the touch pad work at all?
[20:47] <Bashing-om> furkan: Memory .. bad or shortage ? Have you run a memtest on the ram ? How much ram is installed ?
[20:47] <nicomachus> reza_sam: You'll have to be more specific about the problem.
[20:47] <nicomachus> furkan: is your hardware old-ish at all?
[20:47] <furkan> Bashing-om: i have 16GB RAM, haven't done a memtest though
[20:47] <nicomachus> I had a mobo that didn't like the 3.19 kernel at all
[20:48] <furkan> nicomachus: it's a Phenom II X4 so oldish but still pretty capable i guess
[20:48] <Bashing-om> furkan: 16gigs ! (jealous) Well that is not the problem !
 my toch pad work good in mint and otther os...but i cant move good in ubuntu
[20:48] <reza_sam> sometimes
[20:49] <nicomachus> reza_sam: yea... "cant move good" isn't very specific.
[20:49] <furkan> i guess i should do a memtest... i didn't have any problems before, but i guess RAM could go bad with time?
[20:49] <Simonious> how do I identify what package to 'apt-get' for a particular application?
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[20:50] <EriC^^> Simonious: apt-cache search <application or description>
[20:50] <k1l> Simonious: "apt search <keyword>"
[20:50] <Simonious> thanks, what is the difference between these two answers?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> furkan: Not likely to go bad .. but possible . Might also see what ' free -m ' and ' top ' have to say about memory management .
[20:50] <k1l> Simonious: apt is the new apt-get
[20:51] <k1l> or apt-cache in that case
[20:51] <nicomachus> reza_sam: I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding, and I take it that English is not your first language. Would you perhaps be more comfortable in a channel that speaks your native language?
[20:51] <furkan> Bashing-om: lots of cache but plenty of free space
[20:51] <Simonious> so.. the application I'm looking for is comspy and both returned nothing, please advise.
[20:51] <furkan> and the thing is, it only happens with specific programs... like it happens with chrome but never with firefox
[20:51] <furkan> i was thinking if there could be some system library that's corrupted
[20:52] <furkan> a library that all 3 of these programs use
[20:52] <furkan> would there be any way to find out what dependencies they have in common?
[20:52] <k1l> Simonious: its not in the repos. so see the projects website how to install
[20:53] <Bashing-om> furkan: With 16Gifgs, I would not think swap to be an issue . but does not hurt to watch it . Any obsreved abnormalities prior to system seg faulting ? ( stomping on protected memory ) .
[20:53] <reza_sam> nicomachus>listen again...for example my mouse'pointer is right corner and i wanna move it to left corner...some times i can move it easily and some times i have a bit puse for move it
[20:54] <furkan> Bashing-om: i've disabled the swap file :P
[20:54] <reza_sam> nicomachus>Do u understand?
[20:54] <furkan> and no observed abnormalities, other than the program freezing for a few seconds before the segfault
[20:54] <furkan> and everything else continues to run normally
[20:56] <Bashing-om> furkan: Sounds like a task for 'strace' . But usually above my skill level to read what all the system is doing .
[20:56] <reza_sam> nicomachus so are u here my friend?
[20:57] <furkan> Bashing-om: oh man... i think i'd do a clean install before resorting to that lol
[20:57] <nicomachus> reza_sam: jesus, be patient.
[20:59] <reza_sam> nicomachus> so  do u can solve my problem or unistall ubuntu and come back mint or fedora?just it
[20:59] <furkan> according to 'apt-cache depends', the only dependency they have in common is libc6
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> reza_sam: best to re-ask your issue in one line once in a while and be patient
[21:00] <Bashing-om> furkan: Might do something like ' apt-cache depends google-chrome-stable ' redirecting to a file, and same for the other misbehvaing apps. then compare the files for shared attributes ?
[21:00] <furkan> Bashing-om: yeah that's what i just did, libc6 is the only one i see in comon
[21:00] <fullstack> Help
[21:00] <fullstack> my /boot ran out of disk space
[21:00] <furkan> *common
[21:00] <fullstack> when I tried to upgrade my kernel;
[21:00] <furkan> fullstack: uninstall some old kernels?
[21:00] <k1l> fullstack: remove old kernel packages
[21:01] <fullstack> ok, how do I list and remove un-used or old kernel
[21:01] <fullstack> dpkg -l | grep kernel
[21:01] <k1l> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:01] <Bashing-om> furkan: Following that line of thoght, md5sum libc6, see if there might be some corruption ?
[21:01] <furkan> fullstack: the way i do it is dpkg -l | grep linux
[21:01] <fullstack> ?
[21:01] <furkan> lol fullstack
so im in work and im very nervous...i have important job so wanna solve it faster tnx
[21:02] <furkan> yeah fullstack so look for linux-headers and linux-image
[21:02] <fullstack> ok, how do I rm them
[21:02] <nicomachus> reza_sam: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> reza_sam: again...re-ask your issue once in a while
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[21:02] <furkan> fullstack: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-blabla linux-headers-blabla linux-image-extra-blabla
[21:03] <Bashing-om> fullstack: If you are not at full capacity . and the package manager is still in a consistent state ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' will also remove old kernels .
[21:03] <furkan> just copy/paste them all
[21:03] <reza_sam> n<lotuspsychje>for example my mouse'pointer is right corner and i wanna move it to left corner...some times i can move it easily and some times i have a bit puse for move it
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> furkan  also try   sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- that's a tilde
[21:03] <furkan> also fullstack pro-tip: if you have a middle mouse button, just select the package name and then middle-click, and it will automatically copy/paste (in case you didn't know that terminal trick)
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> good evening MonkeyDust
[21:04] <fullstack> so linux-headers aren't stored in boot
[21:05] <furkan> fullstack: right, but you might as well remove them anyway since you won't need them anymore
[21:05] <bekks> fullstack: No, they arent stored in boot.
[21:05] <nicomachus> reza_sam: is it just a slight pause before it works, and is that usually after you are typing?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> fullstack   also try   sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- that's a tilde
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[21:06] <nicomachus> reza_sam: does it sound like it may be this? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-wakeup.html
 some times for 2 sec...and ...some times after every work i see this problem
[21:07] <fullstack> Ok another problem.. When I upgrade to 14.04.02 LTS kernel, it fails on Intel 915 driver
[21:07] <fullstack> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-39-generic (x86_64)Consult /var/lib/dkms/i915-3.16-3.13/1/build/make.log for more information.
[21:07] <bekks> fullstack: 14.04.3 is the current one.
[21:07] <xr> i need some help, my wifi signal is really low, I tried other distros but it's the same result (probably the kernel?) my wifi is not working properly. Here are my network specifications http://pastebin.com/akcGL9Cm
[21:07] <bekks> fullstack: So look at that log then.
 yeah yeah i think lool like this link
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> xr: ubuntu version?
[21:08] <fullstack> I ran apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid  -- but I didn't include the Xserver stuff with it,
[21:08] <nicomachus> reza_sam: this link has more info about configuring the touchpad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:08] <bekks> fullstack: Of course it doesnt, because you didnt tell it to include it.
[21:09] <fullstack> Yes
[21:09] <fullstack> so when I re-run it with the Xserver stuff -- it bombs
[21:09] <fullstack> which I'm assuing the Xserver stuff fixes the intel 915 display problem
[21:09] <xr> lotuspsychje: this is really important?
[21:09] <p444> Hi, can someone help me out with creating a file to run DF command to run in cron each mornign and email it to my email?
[21:09] <bekks> fullstack: Define "it bombs".
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> xr: details can matter yes
 my problem is in first link that u give me but i cant see any answer for it
[21:11] <fullstack> bekks, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14056469/
[21:12] <fullstack> Here is my i915 kernel module build failure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14056474/
[21:12] <bekks> fullstack: Pastebin "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade" please.
[21:12] <xr> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.03
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | xr
[21:12] <fullstack> bekks, I'm on a 3g cellphone, is that going to use a lot of data?
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xr: did you install ubuntu with cable internet and updates enabled during setup?
[21:13] <bekks> fullstack: Yeah, that might happen.
[21:13] <xr> lotuspsychje: yes
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xr: you might need firmware for your realtek
[21:13] <fullstack> bekks, is there an alternative
[21:13] <fullstack> bekks, suggestion?
[21:14] <xr> lotuspsychje: what is wrong with the one actually used?
[21:14] <nicomachus> reza_sam: there was a solution there to turn off the feature. "Go to System > Preferences > Mouse > Touchpad and uncheck 'Disable touchpad while typing' and 'Enable mouse clicks with touchpad'. (This method is not available under Ubuntu 14.04.)"
[21:14] <mcphail> p444: cron should email by default
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> xr: you say your wifi signal is bad
[21:15] <fullstack> Need to get 1,165 MB of archives.
[21:15] <fullstack> That's not going to happen
[21:15] <fullstack> that's $30 in data
[21:15] <p444> mcphail: but what would the script be i make? to run the command at certain time. im also not sure once i make script where to put it, i see different cron folders (i'm new to this and tryin learn, sorry if its stupid question)
[21:16] <bekks> fullstack: The alternative is not using a cellphone.
[21:16] <nicomachus> xr: you may need this fix: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> Reventlov: still not awake?
[21:17] <xr> lotuspsychje: it was a bad question, how did you locate the problem?
[21:17] <chalcedony> hubby's ubuntu 14.04 seems to have lost it's entire desktop settings. we remove/replaced ubuntu-desktop and cairo-dock, as well as  dconf reset - but now the top/task bar does not have anything on it and isn't relating to applications on the page. the File Edit View etc isn't working there.. how can we get that back?
[21:17] <mcphail> p444: you just need the command itself, in your default crontab (edited by calling "crontab -e"). The format of the crontab is simple - see "man 5 crontab" for the info. (Note you need the "5" in that command)
[21:17] <chalcedony> chull, ^^
[21:18] <mcphail> p444: you'll see you can also set the MAILTO environment variable to change the mail recipient
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | chalcedony fix broken packages
[21:19] <chalcedony> thanks looking
[21:20] <mcphail> p444: also, unless you have set up a MTA such as postfix, you'll be limited to local mail delivery on your machine
[21:21] <fullstack> bekks, :( sad
[21:22] <bekks> fullstack: And you are missing more than 1G of updates. I'm not wondering about your update issues at that point.
[21:22] <bekks> fullstack: At least you should run "sudo apt update" for fetching current package lists.
[21:23] <p444> mcphail: when i click crontab-e i can edit yeah, but its all the nos to set time make no sense, is it after the nos then i just write DF
[21:23] <bekks> p444: What is "nos"?
[21:24] <mcphail> p444: yes - as I said, read "man 5 crontab" or you'll get in a mess
 icant see this option in 15.10
[21:24] <mcphail> p444: cron is very particular about the format of the crontab file
[21:24] <p444> bekks: numbers*
[21:25] <Smart_Pussy> Hi all
[21:25] <p444> mcphail yeah im tryin figure out the numbers im readin it here online but can see the date, but tryin figure how do it daily
[21:25] <bekks> p444: thats explained in man 5 daily
[21:25] <mcphail> p444: if you had read the man page, you would have seen a specific example
[21:25] <p444> im lukn it up now
[21:25] <p444> looking
[21:25] <Smart_Pussy> any help here?
[21:26] <nicomachus> !ask | Smart_Pussy
[21:26] <p444> thanlks, i was continuing to type and look it up as i talked back to you
[21:26] <Smart_Pussy> ok
[21:26] <mcphail> p444: I don't often ask people to Read the Fine Manual, but in crontab's case it is mandatory
[21:27] <Smart_Pussy> any one from microsoft?
[21:27] <nicomachus> ... no
 wahts wrong with u?
[21:27] <bekks> Smart_Pussy: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:27] <Smart_Pussy> yes
[21:28] <bekks> Smart_Pussy: So finally ask your Ubuntu related support question please.
[21:28] <Smart_Pussy> how can i instal windows xp?
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> Smart_Pussy: do you have an ubuntu question?
[21:28] <mcphail> Smart_Pussy: I presume you intend to bore us all with the same troll again today?
[21:28] <Smart_Pussy> any smart admin here?
[21:28] <reza_sam> Smart_Pussy> :| with dvd or iso file :|
[21:28] <cfedde_> Smart_Pussy: use virtual box.
[21:28] <OerHeks> Smart_Pussy, you have been removed 2 days ago beiing a troll, didn't you learn?
[21:28] <reza_sam> Smart_Pussy> use kvm or virtual box
[21:29] <Smart_Pussy> from microsoft?
[21:29] <cfedde_> from oracle.
[21:29] <Smart_Pussy> any Bill Gates here?
[21:30] <Smart_Pussy> Bill help my
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Smart_Pussy troll doesnt wanna learn
[21:30] <p444> mcphail So i think i have it 25 06 10 05 * = 25mins 06am 10th day, 6th month and asterix = everyday
[21:30] <p444> great
[21:31] <kitler-13> помогите конкретному тормозу
[21:31] <Smart_Pussy> how much cost new windows?
[21:31] <nicomachus> !ru | kitler-13
[21:31]  * slidinghorn waves
[21:37] <RandomNoob> hello guys already asked in kubuntu channel. ill try to find answer for my question here too.  Im trying to create live usb with linux mint on kubuntu.  im using unetbootin. after rebook and trynig to boot from usb im getting error with "missing operating system"
[21:38] <daftykins> RandomNoob: all you need is 'dd' or 'cp'
[21:38] <daftykins> however i will warn you now, Mint is a bad move - and you won't be able to come in here for help anymore with it
[21:39] <RandomNoob> daftykins just now finished with dd. in folder i see weird names of files xD
[21:39] <bekks> RandomNoob: while using dd - the device want mounted, correct?
[21:40] <EriC^^> *wasnt
[21:40] <RandomNoob> yep
[21:40] <bekks> Yeah, typo :)
[21:40] <bekks> RandomNoob: So which exact dd command did you use?
[21:40] <EriC^^> :)
[21:40] <RandomNoob> sudo dd if=/home/tornike/Downloads/linuxmint-17.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb1   i found information about 1. first tryied without 1 but usb flash drive was free. after that i added 1
[21:41] <RandomNoob> xD
[21:41] <k1l> dont dd into partitions. dd onto the bare usb drive
[21:42] <k1l> (when mint using hybrid isos. if not ask the mint channel how they like their isos to be made bootable on a usb drive)
[21:42] <bekks> RandomNoob: What k1l said. usinf sdb1 will not give you a bootable usb device.
[21:42] <EriC^^> RandomNoob: it's normal if it's free i think, it uses a special filesystem so it works with cd's and usb's
[21:42] <rypervenche> Rondom: So remove the 1 and try again.
[21:42] <rypervenche> errr
[21:42] <rypervenche> RandomNoob: ^
[21:42] <daftykins> RandomNoob: that was wrong, sdb not sdb1
[21:43] <RandomNoob> just format the drive with disk utility tool and run that command without 1 ?
[21:43] <RandomNoob> sudo dd if=/home/tornike/Downloads/linuxmint-17.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb   like this
[21:43] <k1l> RandomNoob: no need to format. the dd command will format it anyway
[21:43] <bekks> RandomNoob: No need to format anything.
[21:43] <RandomNoob> kk
[21:47] <daftykins> you should add a bs=2M on the end of that
[21:47] <EriC^^> ^ oh, +1
[21:50] <RandomNoob> daftykins me ?
[21:51] <OerHeks> and sync after dd
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> guys!
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> I broke ubuntu
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> unity here, after a restart all windows are black, but window decorations show
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> unity dash draws correctly
[21:52] <daftykins> RandomNoob: yes
[21:52] <box-broke-ubuntu> transparency etc works, because notify-send stuff
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: when did it go wrong?
[21:52] <Guest90566> box-broke-ubuntu, type your concerns on ONE line please.
[21:53] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: does the guest account work?
[21:53] <box-broke-ubuntu> Guest90566: yes yes
[21:53] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: good question
[21:53]  * box-broke-ubuntu brb
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: nope, guest account has same issue
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: weirdly enough, alert popups *do* show correctly
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> except everything else doesn't
[21:54] <box-broke-ubuntu> this "everything else" includes GTK, Qt windows, chrome, system settings, but not terminal
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: when did things go wrong?
[21:56] <daftykins> !pm | RandomNoob
[21:56] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: well, like 10 minutes ago
[21:57] <k1l> box-broke-ubuntu: what did you do before that happend? please tell the whole story it just shortens the path to the solution
[21:59] <ubuntu669> just installed ubuntu 15.10, it's really buggy, is this beta?
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu3: tell us whats going on exactly?
[21:59] <k1l> ubuntu669: no, 15.10 is not beta
[22:00] <box-broke-ubuntu> of course
[22:00] <ubuntu669> kll is ubuntu always buggy?
[22:00] <box-broke-ubuntu> so what happened was
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> !details | ubuntu669
[22:00] <k1l> ubuntu669: no, ubuntu is not always buggy.
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> I did the good old sudo shutdown -h now, and my dearest friend here started smashing every key
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> shutdown completed, booted it back up, logged in and bam all windows are black
[22:01] <box-broke-ubuntu> dmesg doesn't show anything too intriguing
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: did you do updates before shutdown?
[22:01] <ubuntu669> i will start with the first thing then, I have dual screen and launcher on main screen, I hide the launcher and have it on lowest sensetivity so it will show up when I move my mouse to left side, it never shows up
[22:02] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: nah
[22:02] <nicomachus> ubuntu669: turn the sensitivity up?
[22:02] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: whatever he smashed couldn't affect it system-wide though, maybe it's a laptop brightness setting?
[22:03] <ubuntu669> lol i was thinking in reverse
[22:03] <ubuntu669> haven't slept in 24h so i will blame it on that
[22:03] <matheus> hello
[22:03] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: wouldn't that also affect window decorations / unitydash / notifications?
[22:03] <chull> ubuntu669, you could rest?
[22:03] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: I can try to reset the xrandr fake screen brightenss thing
[22:04] <ubuntu669> yea gonna rest now, had to install ubuntu and windows today, so boring stuff
[22:04] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: is the login manager also affected?
[22:04] <box-broke-ubuntu> EriC^^: no
[22:04] <EriC^^> box-broke-ubuntu: ok, nevermind then
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: what kind of graphics card chipset and driver?
[22:05] <ubuntu669> chrome keeps asking to be default browser but i see that it's a bug which has been confirmed
[22:05] <ubuntu669> and steam wouldn't install easily without tweaking
[22:05] <ubuntu669> bleh
[22:06] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: intel i3-380m with accompanying integrated something, plus a nvidia gt630m over optimus
[22:06] <k1l> ubuntu669: non of that is an issue for me. chrome and steam works flawlessly
[22:06] <chull> tell me if clicking yes is right - i'm in recovery mode and would like to fix the toolbar, which isn't displaying any of the things it should. but if i click this it says it "will remount your / filesystem in read/write mode and mount other file systems .. do i want this??
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: did you install nvidia-prime?
[22:06] <ubuntu669> kll which version are you on?
[22:06] <k1l> ubuntu 15.10
[22:06] <Li> How do I find/create a list of softwares which I've installed on ubuntu aside from whatever dependencies where installed accordingly?
[22:07] <ubuntu669> kll i had to do this https://askubuntu.com/questions/614422/problem-with-installing-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04
[22:07] <ubuntu669> last time i had ubuntu i had to do same
[22:07] <EriC^^> Li: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[22:07] <ubuntu669> and chrome keeps asking me but like said many have same problem and it's confirmed bug
[22:08] <ubuntu669> weird that you are not having any issues
[22:08] <k1l> ubuntu669: running a 32bit OS?
[22:08] <chull> do i need to unmount lots of things first?
[22:08] <ubuntu669> kll: 64
[22:09] <ubuntu669> k1l not kll
[22:09] <k1l> ubuntu669: so its a video driver issue. i use a intel video card, which doesnt need that
[22:09] <ubuntu669> k1l: you only use integrated gpu?
[22:10] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: I haven't done much otehr than the default config
[22:10] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: if your card is optimus, you need to install nvidia-prime
[22:10] <TJ-> Li: use 'debfoster' - build its database with "sudo debfoster -q" then to list all the top-level packages do "sudo debfoster --show-keepers"
[22:10] <ubuntu669> k1l: You use weechat?
[22:10] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: and it's stayed pretty stable over around 2 months
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: after that enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[22:11] <ubuntu669> i can't get it working either
[22:11] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: so, uh, that will definitely reset whatever happened to how it once was?
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: check also wich driver version your on
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: you just need the right combo driver/ and prime
[22:12] <box-broke-ubuntu> yes but my driver configuration hasn't changed
[22:12] <box-broke-ubuntu> so that should be a null issue
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: that doesnt mean it was the right combo
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: please check it sudo lshw -C video
[22:13] <vova> test
[22:13] <k1l> ubuntu669: i dont use weechat
[22:14] <lotuspsychje> box-broke-ubuntu: and check if nvidia-prime is installed
[22:14] <k1l> box-broke-ubuntu: what ubuntu is that?
[22:14] <dragoonis> I'm root user, I can't chown a directory, permission denied - thoughts?
[22:15] <dragoonis> chown -R ubuntu workspace
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: alrighty
[22:15] <k1l> dragoonis: dont be root. use sudo
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> k1l: 15.04
[22:15] <box-broke-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: alright
[22:15] <dragoonis> k1l, same thing
[22:16] <box-broke-ubuntu> anyway
[22:16]  * box-broke-ubuntu awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[22:16] <box-broke-ubuntu> gonna deal tomorrow
[22:16] <k1l> dragoonis: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:17] <dragoonis> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS"
[22:17] <k1l> dragoonis: is this a vagrant box?
[22:18] <dragoonis> k1l, yes it is
[22:19] <EriC^^> dragoonis: try lsattr workspace
[22:20] <k1l> dragoonis: i am not familiar with vagrant setups. seems like you need to change the permissions from the host
[22:20] <dragoonis> EriC^^, lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on workspace/dashboard
[22:21] <EriC^^> dragoonis: can you change ownership of other files?
[22:23] <michi_> hii
[22:23] <NwS> Heya guys. A quick question if anyone has any idea.. I'm trying to unzip a file and overwrite the old files but it fails. Any ideas what I am doing wrong: unzip -o file.zip -d folder/*
[22:25] <daftykins> NwS: why not unzip to another path then move, if it's being problematic?
[22:26] <NwS> daftykins, I've tried that but it wouldn't move all the files especially the ones within folders
[22:26] <NwS> I don't want to recreate the whole folder but replace with the new files wherever is needed hmm
[22:26] <daftykins> are you just replacing some core elements in the target directory, or is the whole thing going?
[22:26] <daftykins> yeah. i think your move was possibly not ideal then
[22:27] <NwS> I was following the freaking guide :P
[22:27] <daftykins> well there's your problem, you're unzipping - not freaking!
[22:27] <EriC^^> xD
[22:27] <NwS> lol
[22:28]  * Guest90566 loves elegant solutions!
[22:28] <bennyprofane> I'm trying to install http://www.passwordstore.org/ and it says to run apt-get but when I do I get the "E: Unable to locate package pass" error. I'm on a machine running 12.04 LTS, is this due to 12.04 being old or is it just not avail for some other reason?
[22:29] <Guest90566> bennyprofane, looks like you didnt add their repo
[22:29] <k1l> bennyprofane: you need to use the backports on precise
[22:29] <Guest90566> git might be easier
[22:30] <bennyprofane> cool thanks i'll check out backports
[22:30] <linux|newb> TJ-: thanks a lot for your bios analyser
[22:31] <k1l> bennyprofane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[22:31] <linux|newb> TJ-: got my issue sorted :)
[22:31] <Dumle29> should relogging not be sufficient to reload environment variables?
[22:31] <vova> ls
[22:32] <vova> and i have question about printer
[22:32] <TJ-> linux|newb: oh cool, was it a firmware bug?
[22:32] <vova> can i configure printer vie wifi?
[22:33] <nicomachus> vova, yes with cups
[22:33] <nicomachus> !cups | vova
[22:33] <linux|newb> TJ-: yep - laptops about to die. wanted to say thanks :)
[22:33] <linux|newb> see ya
[22:33] <linux|newb> laptop's*
[22:33] <TJ-> linux|newb: good oh
[22:34] <vova> And can i install linux on lapton and when i will connect by telnet to my lapton, i install in lapton another connection to smartphone?
[22:35] <bekks> vova: you shall not use telnet, but ssh instead.
[22:36] <vova> In one books about English language i read that word 'shall' don't use? Replaced with 'will' ?
[22:36] <bekks> vova: Do not use telnet.
[22:36] <vova> thanks a lot, guys!
[22:37] <Li> How is it possible to limit the output of dpkg -l to a certain specified date?
[22:37] <vova> where i can find the IRC about not onle computers and networks? About life, sport, cooking and other none computer things?
[22:38] <nicomachus> !list | vova
[22:38] <daftykins> Li: it doesn't work like that, the status is what is there *now*
[22:38] <nicomachus> whoops.
[22:38] <nicomachus> !alis | vova
[22:41] <cgundersson> cd /window 1
[22:41] <cgundersson> nice :)
[22:43] <bennyprofane> k1l: backports worked :)
[22:45] <happynewyear2013> HELLO
[22:45] <jann_> hello
[22:45] <jann_> german her?
[22:46] <happynewyear2013> ja
[22:46] <jann_> cool
[22:46] <nicomachus> !de | jann_
[22:46] <jann_> mein erster raspberry :D
[22:46] <happynewyear2013> :D
[22:47] <jann_> seit gestern
[22:47] <k1l> jungs, #ubuntu-de ist der deutsche kanal :)
[22:47] <jann_> ach so ok
[22:48] <jann_> welche projekte habt ihr so am start ?
[22:52] <csmule> I'm in AWS in two different subnets. When I add an eth0:0 alias for a secondary IP I can't ping the other subnet. Any suggestions?
[22:52] <csmule> If I bring down eth0:0 I can ping the other subnet
[22:54] <TJ-> csmule: sounds like you're replacing the default route
[22:55] <csmule> Yeah, def messing up the route. Am I missing something? Is there a way to avoid that?
[22:56] <daftykins> i'm sure i've read that's not the right way to assign two IPs to the same interface
[22:57] <csmule> Could be, maybe I will rethink that.
[23:00] <uiopteyes> csmule: no
[23:00] <TJ-> csmule: show us the /etc/network/interfaces file you're using
[23:01] <csmule> sure..
[23:01] <csmule> https://gist.github.com/stonefury/30ca351e84ec11daf66d
[23:02] <TJ-> csmule: can you show us "ip route show" *before* and *after* bringing up eth0:0 ?
[23:05] <csmule_> sorry lost friggin connection. ANy ideas TJ-?
[23:06] <TJ-> csmule_: can you show us "ip route show" *before* and *after* bringing up eth0:0 ?
[23:06] <uiopteyes> kingplusplus: ops
[23:08] <kingplusplus> uiopteyes: ops
[23:08] <csmule_> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/stonefury/d4bb7cb5a87862f22719
[23:08] <UglyGook> would using the word nigger as part of your normal vocabulary be a good reason for you to be fired?
[23:09] <teward> !langauge | UglyGook
[23:11] <TJ-> csmule_: those routes look correct; I'd suspect something in the AWS routing config (possibly configured using the control panel
[23:12] <csmule_> Hm, I'll take a look. Thanks TJ-
[23:12] <TJ-> csmule_: it's likely the outgoing is fine, it's the replies not getting back because they don't know 10.9.248.128/25 is on this host
[23:23] <tag> There is some feature in firefox that, the way it's implemented it makes Xorg go ape-shit and use tons of CPU cycles
[23:23] <tag> Does anyone know what that feature is and how to disable it?
[23:24] <k1l> tag: you mean the flash plugin?
[23:24] <tag> nope
[23:24] <tag> It's not that
[23:24] <tag> I have flash disabled
[23:25] <slidinghorn> tag: how many tabs do you have open for this?  Is it on a particular site, or any site?  Do sites it occurs on have anything in common?
[23:25] <tag> Sure, maps.google.com
[23:25] <tag> it basically freezes my workstation.  Also, hilariously enough even this one is a culprit: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-uses-too-many-cpu-resources-how-fix?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Firefox+consumes+a+lot+of+CPU+resources
[23:25] <tag> though it's not nearly as bad as maps
[23:26] <tag> which brings firefox to it's knees on my workstation (Thinkpad X1 Carbon running Ubuntu 15.10)
[23:27] <tag> slidinghorn, with 5 tabs open
[23:27] <tag> slidinghorn, but maps crashes my workstation even I have only one tab open and it's maps.
[23:27] <TJ-> tag: probably Javascript and WebGL/OpenGL interface
[23:27] <tag> I mean, it doesn't crash it, but it freezes it up
[23:28] <tag> TJ-, That's what I was thinking, but then I disabled WebGL.
[23:29] <tag> And then I disabled hardware acceleration too
[23:31] <tag> I think it's some css-related feature
[23:32] <TJ-> tag: can you reduce the reproduction of the symptoms to a using a single tab and site?
[23:32] <tag> yeah, maps.google.com on a single tab.
[23:33] <sruli> TJ_: do u know where qemu stores snapshot xml files?
[23:33] <tag> Xorg gets busy, and it makes all compiz' animations slow down
[23:33] <tag> best case
[23:33] <tag> worst case I have to go to the console and kill firefox.
[23:34] <TJ-> sruli: I would have assumed the same directory as the base image, or the current working directory
[23:35] <TJ-> tag: what GPU does the system have?
[23:35] <drosophile> hi/salut
[23:35] <tag> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
[23:35] <TJ-> tag: OK, so an Integrated on-die
[23:35] <tag> Right.
[23:35] <tag> It's a Thinkpad X1
[23:36] <goddard> how can i tell ssh to always use a specific key file for a domain?
[23:37] <TJ-> tag: when it happens how much CPU usuage does the firefox process, or Xorg, consume. In a terminal use "top" to view it live, and press 'i' to hide the idle processes, and press 'H' to see threads as well as processes
[23:38] <TJ-> tag: if most of the CPU usage is in Xorg that points to a rendering issue
[23:38] <sruli> TJ-: neither dir, is there a way to find all files created in last 5 minutes? that might help me find the location
[23:39] <tag> TJ-, It's mostly Xorg, (79% on this current, one tab experiment, 12% by firefox).
[23:40] <TJ-> tag: right, so it looks like the rendering is at issue
[23:40] <tag> TJ- Right.  But it's something specific about how firefox is rendering these assets.
[23:41] <TJ-> sruli: using temporary snapshots then, I'd expect under /tmp/. You can do "ls -l /proc/$(pidof qemu-system-x86_64)/fd/"
[23:41] <drokkitop> .
[23:41] <drokkitop> france here, han solo is killed by his son kylo :(
[23:41] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | drokkitop, also spoilers.
[23:42] <tag> TJ-, Same assets in chrome are fine.
[23:42] <physixer> I assume build-essential is a meta-package? what is installed as part of it?
[23:42] <PMT> Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.9.1), g++ (>= 4:4.9.1), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11)
[23:43] <PMT> at least on my system, the exact versions may vary
[23:43] <TJ-> tag: is this any help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HighCPU
[23:44] <physixer> well I already built gcc/g++ in my home directory, I already have make (I think ubuntu comes pre-installed with it), then the only thing left is libc-dev, libc6-dev, and dpkg-dev
[23:44] <k1l> physixer: see packages.ubuntu.com
[23:44] <physixer> I plan on building my own libc/libc6, so the only thing I need from the system is dpkg-dev
[23:45] <sruli> TJ-: cannot access /proc//fd: no such file or dir
[23:45] <physixer> k1l: I saw that but the build-essential page didn't provide much details. I gave 'dependencies' but not what are the contents of the essential-packages-list text file that is installed.
[23:45] <TJ-> sruli: hmmm, that means qemu-system-x86_64 isn't your QEMU hypervisor. What are you using?
[23:46] <sruli> TJ-: i use libvirt, but i created snapshot with qemu-img
[23:47] <physixer> as a matter of fact I'm think can I replace libc use completely with musl
[23:47] <k1l> physixer: the page there shows exactly what depencies that metapackage has got
[23:47] <physixer> *I'm thinking
[23:47] <TJ-> physixer: "apt-cache depends <package>"
[23:48] <TJ-> sruli: then the snapshot will be whatever file you gave to qemu-img
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Nope
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Not using vino or any other VNC agent
[23:48] <tag> TJ-, Nothing about infinite loops in syslog
[23:48] <TJ-> tag: I was more thinking of the diagnostic steps, specifically the last line "Running the xserver under gdb and/or strace can help identify the loop that the xserver is stuck in. "
[23:49] <tag> TJ-, My chip does have a dedicated GPU...OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
[23:49] <tag> Ah
[23:49] <physixer> k1l: TJ-: but this doesn't help tell if the package is a metapackage. Which I 'assumed'. I'm also assuming a metapackage is one that only installs other packages but doesn't by itself provide anything necessary.
[23:49] <tag> perhaps I could do that
[23:51] <TJ-> physixer: right; I usually determine that indirectly by the 'Installed-Size" field value being very small
[23:52] <k1l> physixer: "Informational list of build-essential packages" it is just a metapackage, yes
[23:52] <drosophile> how to install steam on ubu 15.10 ?
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> !info steam
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> drosophile: sudo apt-get install steam # should get you there.  It will likely update immediately via steams servers.
[23:54] <drosophile> ok thank you , I'll try
[23:55] <sruli> TJ-: please see my command and output from creating the snapshot paste.ubuntu.com/14059785
[23:56] <Gibstick> Should I be concerned if ureadahead barfs out Error retrieving chunk extents: Operation not supported in my syslog a lot of times?
[23:58] <TJ-> sruli: you mentioned XML; that's a libvirt thing, so you'd need to look at the libvirt/virsh docs
[23:58] <sruli> TJ-: i thought qemu also uses xml, where does qemu store the snapshot ?
[23:59] <TJ-> sruli: where'ever you created it with qemu-image