[00:05] <Network2501> hi, how can i stop the computer going to sleep (not the monitor)
[00:05] <Network2501> I've set options under xfce power manager to never sleep
[00:05] <Tarminquay> I'm running Ubuntu MATE.
[00:06] <Tarminquay> Any reason I should switch to Xubuntu?
[00:06] <knome> Tarminquay, what makes you ask that?
[00:09] <Tarminquay> What do you mean what?
[00:09] <Tarminquay> I am just curious.
[00:09] <Network2501> i chose xubuntu because of xfce
[00:10] <knome> if you ask a xubuntu channel, you can expect people to prefer xubuntu here
[00:10] <knome> however, you should use what is best for you
[00:10] <Network2501> and tbh i only decided to use ubuntu for the gns3 support
[00:13] <retrojeff> MATE is pretty xfce is lightweight
[00:13] <retrojeff> if you want simple and light choose xfce
[00:14] <retrojeff> if you want pretty and gnome2 pick mate
[00:14] <retrojeff> I use both
[00:14] <knome> xubuntu and ubuntu mate are much more than the DE's
[00:14] <retrojeff> packages are not the same
[00:15] <Tarminquay> Ubuntu MATE and Xubuntu are quite different.
[00:18] <Network2501> power issue seems to be related to bug 1307545
[00:18] <Network2501> power manager settings are ignored
[00:18] <Network2501> computer is still being suspended
[00:19] <Network2501> other than uncommenting ingore idle in /etc/systemd/logind.conf is there anything else i could look at?
[01:00] <Tarminquay> Do you guys have slow systems?
[01:01] <Tarminquay> Is that why you run Xubuntu?
[01:01] <knome> i have used xubuntu on low-spec hardware too, but i'm also running it on modern hardware.
[01:02] <Tarminquay> Why not use Ubuntu MATE if you have modern hardware?
[01:03] <knome> why not use xubuntu?
[01:03] <Tarminquay> Or even Linux Mint with Cinnamon?
[01:03] <Tarminquay> Because it's not as nice, especially vs Cinnamon.
[01:03]  * knome shrugs
[01:03] <knome> i guess we have to agree to disagree
[01:13] <knome> Tarminquay, is this for google code-in?
[01:13] <Tarminquay> What google code-in?
[01:13] <knome> mozmck, re: your question, you'll likely want to check http://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/0.105/pkexec.1.html
[01:14] <Tarminquay> Linux Mint with Cinnamon is a much more sophisticated DE than Xubuntu.
[01:14] <mozmck> I'm trying to use pkexec in a bash script with no success.  I have a script called "installer" that just has the command "dpkg -i *.deb"  If I use gksudo ./installer, it works great.  But gksudo is not installed in Xubuntu by default so that is not an option for me.  pkexec tells me it can't find ./installer  So I passed it the full path to the installer, and then dpkg says it can't find the deb files.  So I added a cd <location of files> in the ./installer 
[01:16] <mozmck> knome: I've looked at that page and anything else I can find.  It's pretty sketchy.
[01:16] <knome> mozmck, pkexec requires a permission file for your command you are going to run
[01:16] <knome> mozmck, maybe you would be fine if you ran the script itself without pkexec, and only the dpkg command inside the script with it
[01:17] <mozmck> For every one?  I thought it was more generic than that.
[01:17] <mozmck> I tried running just dpkg with it and that didn't work either.
[01:18] <knome> for every one, yes. not every variation, but one per command.
[01:18] <mozmck> That seems pretty well useless then.
[01:18] <knome> seems pretty secure to me.
[01:19] <knome> only commands that are specified get only the permissions they should
[01:19] <mozmck> Yeah, so secure you can't install anything with a graphical password dialog.
[01:20] <Network2501> does xubuntu run a sshd by default?
[01:20] <Network2501> and allow remote connections
[01:20] <knome> well, pkexec policy files are shipped for all software that xubuntu ships by default, and it works for them as it is correctly set up - go figure
[01:20] <knome> Network2501, no, but you can install one easily
[01:20] <Network2501> ahh ok that explains a lot
[01:20] <Network2501> cheers knome
[01:21] <mozmck> interestingly, I just discovered that virtualbox has an install script for it's Guest Additions that uses pkexec and it works.  I guess I'll dig into that and see how that works.
[01:21] <knome> yes, at this point not all software has a policy file
[01:21] <knome> but the situation should be getting better all the time
[01:21] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#No_Open_Ports
[01:21] <mozmck> thanks for the pointers.  I doubt virtualbox is installing a policy file
[17:14] <xubuntu657> k
[18:19] <xubuntu79d> I have lost the task bar on my desktop and with this last update the password seems to have been change
[18:20] <xubuntu79d> How can I resolve or remove this random generated password first of all
[18:20] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: you can have your taskbar back by hitting alt+f2 and entering "xfce-4-panel &"
[18:21] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: can you rule out problems with encoding and keyboard settings?
[18:23] <xubuntu79d> It's asking for a password now which seems to have been changed
[18:23] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: you didn't answer my question
[18:23] <Luyin> or else I don't understand what you're trying to say
[18:24] <xubuntu18w> Hi ! I have xubunt installed on my pc and will like to install a 2nd linux distro. but I will like to create a partition for storing data I will b able to use with the 2 distros...
[18:24] <xubuntu18w> any advise??
[18:25] <xubuntu18w> if I create a /data for example in ext4 is it ok??
[18:25] <xubuntu79d> It ran an update that randomly generated a password that I don't have
[18:25] <xubuntu18w> when i say data it is only files... documents music, movies...
[18:25] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: there is no such thing as an update which changes passwords.
[18:26] <Luyin> xubuntu18w: you can create a partition to be used by any number of OSes on your PC without problem, yes.
[18:27] <xubuntu18w> Luyin...  Can I also encrypt it after?
[18:29] <Luyin> xubuntu18w: should be no problem afaik
[18:29] <xubuntu79d> I remember seeing a reference to a command line something like random unlock to undo the change on my ( encryption ) password
[18:29] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: can you rule out problems with encoding and keyboard settings?
[18:30] <xubuntu79d> Yes
[18:33] <xubuntu79d> It's a laptop, there may be a setting Chang, I was trying to emolument a 3D desktop cud be when this all started
[18:39] <Luyin> xubuntu79d: nothing of this has anything to do with changing passwords. so either you're mistaken and your keyboard settings have changed, your encoding doesn't do what it's supposed to, or you're mistyping your password.
[18:44] <xubuntu79d> Ok, one other question then. Is there a way to simply reset and change it?
[18:48] <krytarik> !pwreset | xubuntu79d
[21:27] <FernandoBasso> How to increase/decrease screen brightness on a normal desktop computer? (I use fn keys on my laptop)
[21:34] <bekks> FernandoBasso: By modifying the brightness in the menu of your display.
[22:54] <Troller> So guys I used Unetbootin to create a usb stick with Xubuntu for installation
[22:54] <Troller> I plug in the usb stick and reboot to it, start installation procedure but now he is asking for ISO image
[22:54] <Troller> what ISO image is it?
[22:55] <Troller> Im really confused I thought all I needed was on the usb stick
[23:00] <mrkramps> actually you're using this iso image from a stick
[23:01] <Troller> the iso image I need is on the stick then?
[23:01] <Troller> problem is locate it then, because it lists some mountable  drives I tried each one of them but it didnt find it
[23:05] <Troller> man
[23:06] <Troller> im just going to burn the xubuntu iso into a dvd and then install it from there
[23:06] <Troller> from usb stick is too complicated by the looks of things