[00:00] <sruli> TJ-: please see paste.ubuntu.com/14059785 i didnt specify dir to save snap in
[00:01] <TJ-> sruli: you need to read the documentation. "man qemu-img", and read everything it describes about using and storing snapshots.
[00:02] <chull> i flatly need help with my husband's unity desktop. the top bar has lost all it's images and abilities. it's 14.04. trying the commands from here made all the sidebar and top bar vanish, and the keyboard quit working, when I hit ctrl c, after the errors. thankfully rebooting got those back! but the top bar is still blank. HELP?
[00:02] <chull> um here .. sec
[00:03] <chull> https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/highlight.pl?hlq=https://startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl/search?q=top%20menubar%20ubuntu%2014.04%20no%20icons
[00:04] <slidinghorn> chull: what command were you told to run that you believe started this issue?
[00:04] <chull> i'm pretty nervous about doing setsid unity again
[00:05] <chull> hi slidinghorn - my husband had a stroke. he's an ex computer guy. he can't speak, type and understand but he reads.
[00:06] <chull> somehow he got his ubuntu 14.04 to not have the left icons and top bar. i got those back, but the top bar still doesn't have anything
[00:07] <slidinghorn> what was on it previously?
[00:07] <chull> unity
[00:07] <chull> he runs cairo-dock
[00:08] <slidinghorn> chull: no, I mean, what did the top bar contain?
[00:08] <tag> TJ-, Actually come to think of it, I'm fairly certain it's a pretty inconspicuous feature.  Are you familiar with the SSO service called Okta?
[00:08] <tag> We use them @ work — Okta freezes firefox on my machine in the same way
[00:08] <chull> oh! slidinghorn he had it so that all the things he had running had their menus in the top bar, plus aplets for weather, etc.
[00:09] <welovfree> hey guys check this: http://fossbytes.com/save-your-eyes-from-computer-strain-using-f-lux-for-windows-mac-and-linux/
[00:10] <sruli> chull: using unity or cairo-dock menu?
[00:11] <chull> he says he is not sure. i hate his reaction to the new meds.
[00:11] <OerHeks> welovfree, old news, redshift is a better fork of f.lux
[00:11] <OerHeks> !info redshift
[00:11] <k1l> !info gtk-redshift | welovfree
[00:12] <sruli> chull: is there an empty top bar or no top bar at all?
[00:13] <chull> sruli, there was no bar. i got it back, but only the name of the thing he's on shows now.
[00:13] <SchrodingersScat> !info redshift | welovfree there's also this.
[00:13] <sruli> chull: can u post a screenshot somewhere?
[00:14] <chull> sruli, i guess. really it's just a gray bar, with the name in white on the left. his icons are on both sides.
[00:15] <slidinghorn> chull: what are your options if you right click on a blank area of it?
[00:15] <slidinghorn> !screenshot | chull
[00:15] <sruli> chull: when u right click on the bar do u have an option "Add / Remove panel items" ?
[00:16] <chull> he's got the screenshot made, not sure what he's doing now.
[00:16] <chull> sruli, no nothing happens with right click on the bar
[00:17] <welovfree> OerHeks, so do you recommend redshift over f.lux?
[00:17] <sruli> chull: try one of the following when right clicking, Alt+Right-click or ctrl+alt+right-click
[00:18] <chull> sruli, ok
[00:19] <connor__> My pc keeps crashing when I run opengl programs, Ive tried to reinstall the proprietary Nvidia drivers but no luck. Any suggestions?
[00:21] <chull> sruli, ctrl alt right click does nothing. alt right click doesMinimize Maximize Move and Always on top
[00:21] <sruli> chull: any luck?
[00:22] <sruli> chull: windows-key+alt+right-click? can you post that screenshot?
[00:25] <Quantos> Whenever my mouse gets over a application on the taskbar my windows all lose focus, most annoying, how can I turn that off?  I'm running KDE
[00:25] <chull> whatever we did there is an album with two images. i don't know what the second one ittt
[00:25] <chull> is
[00:25] <Quantos> Actually, they don't just lose focus, they get almost invisible
[00:26] <connor__> same
[00:26] <sruli> chull: go to  http://imgur.com/ and upload the image then post teh link here
[00:27] <chull> sruli, working on it
[00:30] <chull> sruli, http://imgur.com/empkBZi
[00:33] <chull> sruli, see the problem?
[00:33] <sruli> chull: yes, clock etc missing, right?
[00:36] <sruli> chull: after a restart is it still missing?
[00:38] <nicomachus> chull: what's the output of "xdpyinfo  | grep dimensions
[00:38] <nicomachus> without the "
[00:39] <chull> sruli, yes restarting didn't help that
[00:39] <simon_sss> hi
[00:40] <chull-> (his computer)
[00:41] <chull-> nicomachus,   dimensions:    1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
[00:42] <nicomachus> chull-: ok great. is the current dimension shown by "xrandr --current" any different at all?
[00:42] <chull> nicomachus, checking
[00:43] <sruli> nicomachus: i dont think its a dimension issue, you can see in the screenshot unity menu on the left and dock on the right, i am thinking maybe reinstall ubuntu-desktop & install unity, but i guess they will loose all customizations inc ciaro-dock
[00:43] <chull-> nicomachus, Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
[00:43] <nicomachus> yea, I was wondering if somehow a second non-existent monitor got added, but it doesn't appear to be that way.
[00:44] <nicomachus> ok thanks chull-, just a crazy idea I had that was easy to check.
[00:44] <chull> nicomachus, that's ok - any ideas welcome :)
[00:45] <nicomachus> sruli: we tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop last night, no dice.
[00:46] <sruli> chull: did u reinstall unity?
[00:46] <chull> sruli, i think so
[00:47] <sruli> nicomachus: will a remove / purge then reinstall sort this?
[00:47] <nicomachus> chull: in the System Settings GUI --> Time & Date, there's a tab for "Clock" with some options to display different things in that top menu bar. Have you checked those settings?
[00:47] <nicomachus> sruli: of unity?
[00:48] <sruli> nicomachus: and ubuntu-desktop
[00:49] <nicomachus> sruli: I don't imagine it would be different than install --reinstall, but it's possible I suppose.
[00:49] <sruli> nicomachus: purge would remove all the config files, no?
[00:50] <nicomachus> yes.
[00:51] <nicomachus> theoretically you could back them up, but that may defeat the purpose.
[00:52] <sruli>  nicomachus: would this be the right commands to go? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14060893/
[00:52] <chull> nicomachus, i don't know where 'system settings' is in his *** computer.
[00:52] <chull> i'm an old gnome girl
[00:55] <nicomachus> chull: open the Dash (the ubuntu-symbol icon on the top of the left icon tray) and type in "System Settings", it'll come up
[00:55] <nicomachus> sruli: that makes me nervous, tbh. I'm not comfortable enough with my own skills to recommend that route.
[00:55] <chull> nicomachus, right or left click? it's not opening (we thought that's where it was)
[00:55] <nicomachus> left.
[00:56] <sruli> nicomachus: i'm even less confident,
[00:57] <chull> honestly it's pretty broke as it is
[00:57] <sruli> nicomachus: there is nothing in system settings to help with this
[00:57] <sruli> chull: are you sure you reinstall unity ?
[00:57] <nicomachus> sruli: the options to display everything that is missing are in the system settings.
[00:57] <sruli> nicomachus: where? i am looking for it
[00:58] <nicomachus> Time & Date --> Clock tab
[00:58] <chull> hmm i clicked on system settings and it asked me to login again. and everything is new.
[00:59] <chull> let me bring him back in here
[00:59] <sruli> chull: might have logged you in with a different account
[01:01] <sruli> chull: if you get back to that problematic screen, in terminal enter unity-control-center let me know if it opens the settings
[01:01] <chull> ok
[01:01] <nicomachus> chull: what started all of this? Can you trace it back to a single event?
[01:02] <chull> nicomachus, he can't tell me that.
[01:02] <nicomachus> hmmm.... well, that would be a big help...
[01:02] <chull> ok sruli it brought up System Settings
[01:03] <chull> nicomachus, part of dealing with the result of the stroke. short term memory is sort of gone.
[01:03] <sruli> chull: go to Time & Date --> Clock tab is "show a clock in the menu bar" checked?
[01:04] <chull> that and not being able to speak or write.
[01:04] <chull> sruli, looking
[01:06] <chull> it went to a map. and the other tab has clock information, some checked
[01:06] <chull> but nothing we see says show it
[01:06] <sruli> chull: can u post a screenshot?
[01:07] <chull> or wait
[01:07] <chull> it's there on the top and it IS checked
[01:07] <chull> it won't let him change settings they are graed
[01:07] <chull> grayed
[01:08] <nicomachus> chull: what's the output of "ls -la ~/"?
[01:08] <chull> ok
[01:08] <nicomachus> you'll have to pastebin that one.
[01:09] <sruli> chull: paste that output in paste.ubuntu.com and post link here
[01:09] <chull> what's that curl command thing that pastebins?
[01:09] <nicomachus> ls -la ~/ | pastebinit
[01:10] <chull> excellent :)
[01:12] <sruli> chull: can you enter command "killall unity-panel-service" see what happens
[01:12] <chull-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14061721/
[01:13] <nicomachus> chull: chull-: are there any other users on this machine?
[01:13] <SchrodingersScat> when I copy something, it's adding, 0~, and 1~ around the pasted text.
[01:13] <sruli> nicomachus: seems like someone messed with permissions?
[01:13] <chull> nicomachus, i don't remember
[01:14] <sruli> chull in command line enter "who"
[01:14] <chull> should be a test one maybe?
[01:14] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: maybe this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/1350334
[01:14] <nicomachus> chull: definitely some permission issues here. we found something!
[01:15] <sruli> chull: what the output of who ?
[01:15] <aldin> hii to all
[01:16] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: i'm going to restart to see if that helps.  brb
[01:16] <chull-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14063112/
[01:16] <sruli> chull: is vir2 your user name?
[01:17] <chull> sruli, yes
[01:18] <sruli> nicomachus: there surly is a permissions / ownership issue, i dont know how to set it right for the whole HOME dir
[01:18] <nicomachus> one sec.
[01:19] <chull> sure do appreciate your help!
[01:20] <nicomachus> chull: 'sudo visudo' and then look for a line that reads "# User privilege specification"
[01:21] <nicomachus> is the line right underneath that "root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[01:21] <nicomachus> ?
[01:21] <chalcedony> er wait
[01:21] <chalcedony> (sorry real me on my computer)
[01:21] <nicomachus> np.
[01:24] <chull> nicomachus, yes that's correct
[01:24] <nicomachus> chalcedony chull, you can restore the proper permissions with "sudo chown vir2:vir2 /home/vir2"
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: ok, whatever I did, reboot solved it.  Nightmare is over. (Pasting those ends inside of nano deletes the entire line )  Last I recall I copied something out of github, so who knows.
[01:25] <sruli> nicomachus: is there nothing in HOME that needs to remain root? and it should be chown -R, no?
[01:25] <jr_> Is there a way to automaitcally email files from a particular directory in ubuntu?
[01:28] <nicomachus> sruli: there is in /home/ but not in /home/user/.
[01:28] <Bashing-om> sruli: NO on -R .. if ya look the system files are not owned by the homes' owner .
[01:29] <sruli> chalcedony: chull: let us know how you get on
[01:30] <yuidersa> sruli: what's that
[01:30] <chull> i had to close some root sessions
[01:30] <yuidersa> chull: you growing tree roots
[01:36] <chull> nicomachus, it still seems to be root ALL(ALL:ALL) ALL
[01:37] <sruli> chull: thats how it should be, if visudo is still open ctrl+x to close then run "sudo chown vir2:vir2 /home/vir2"
[01:38] <chalcedony> ok waiting for him to move
[01:47] <nicomachus> give it a shot yet?
[01:52] <chalcedony> Nickeeh, still waiting
[01:53] <nicomachus> ok, np.
[01:53] <nicomachus> gave me time to eat :)
[01:59] <Yuken> I'd like to reformat my machine, but the server I have access to uses key authentication - and my friend, who rents it, won't be on for a few days. Would copying my current .ssh folder over work properly?
[02:01] <barkaruka> hi
[02:02] <barkaruka> to enable a touchpad for a laptop i'd type synclient TouchpadOff=1 in the console?
[02:03] <nicomachus> barkaruka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:03] <nicomachus> but yes, that looks correct.
[02:03] <slidinghorn> barkaruka: that's to *disable*
[02:03] <nicomachus> slidinghorn: no, that would enable. 0 would disable.
[02:03] <nicomachus> it is a bit confusing.
[02:03] <barkaruka> ya
[02:03]  * slidinghorn has it in his openbox autostart....
[02:04] <slidinghorn> definitely disables it
[02:04]  * nicomachus is looking at the documentation...
[02:04] <barkaruka> 0 would enable
[02:04] <khonsu> hello
[02:04] <barkaruka> hi
[02:04] <nicomachus> "TouchpadOff - Enables=1/Disables=0 the touchpad entirely.
[02:04] <nicomachus> "
[02:04] <nicomachus> man, that's some confusing wording.
[02:05] <barkaruka> To Disable Touchpad:
[02:05] <barkaruka> synclient TouchpadOff=1
[02:05] <Yuken> I'd like to reformat my machine, but the server I have access to uses key authentication - and my friend, who rents it, won't be on for a few days. Would copying my current .ssh folder over work properly?
[02:05] <khonsu> amy of you guys know how to overclock this bitch on a raspi 2
[02:05] <nicomachus> !language | khonsu
[02:06] <khonsu> ,y bad
[02:06] <chull-> ok nicomachus sruli did that :)
[02:06] <nicomachus> khonsu: that's a question for ##hardware anyway.
[02:06] <nicomachus> chull-: any changes?
[02:08] <chalcedony> not that i noticed nicomachus
[02:08] <nicomachus> what about after a reboot?
[02:08] <chalcedony> i can try that
[02:09] <nicomachus> ok. and then you may try to reinstall unity again with 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[02:10] <chull-> brb
[02:12] <jr_> How can I send an email using thunderbird without using the gui?
[02:13] <nicomachus> jr_: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6253701/thunderbird-compose-email-in-a-batch-script-continue-to-next-command
[02:13] <jr_> nicomachus: thanks
[02:14] <jr_> nicomachus: That actually only invokes the GUI and leaves it to you to send it
[02:14] <jr_> it does write the data in though
[02:14] <slidinghorn> jr_ what's the purpose in using Thunderbird without a gui....what are you trying to acheive?
[02:15] <jr_> slidinghorn: I'm trying to email files that appear in a particular directory to my email. The email hosting company has security restrictions but allows for the use of thunderbird.
[02:15] <jr_> slidinghorn: HIPPA constraints
[02:17] <jr_> slidinghorn: so is this not a possibility with thunderbird?
[02:18] <nicomachus> jr_: I'm sure it is... gonna take a bit of googling and you may have to script it.
[02:18] <jr_> nicomachus: I have no problem with that. The only part I haven't figure out is how to actually send the email
[02:19] <ctrl_alt_pasta> jr_, you have Mutt but i dont know if its HIPAA compliant
[02:19] <jr_> ctrl_alt_pasta: it isn't
[02:19] <Tarminquay> Which is the more popular version in here, 15.10 or 14.04?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> jr_: Discussion : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306548
[02:20] <jr_> thanks
[02:20] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: weren't you booted earlier today for not being on topic?
[02:20] <chull> nicomachus, install done, but it hasn't changed the top bar
[02:20] <chull> do we need to reboot?
[02:20] <toto`> I use 14.04 :p
[02:20] <Tarminquay> nicomachus: I want to talk about Ubuntu.
[02:20] <nicomachus> Tarminquay: are you running ubuntu on any machines right now?
[02:21] <nicomachus> chull: a reboot won't hurt. after that we can try clearing all the config files and restoring it to default.
[02:21] <toto`> Hello all. I have a trouble with firefox 43.0 : I can't download files. Do yoo have the same trouble?
[02:21] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, what happens when you download a file?
[02:21] <chull> great.
[02:23] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: when I click to download, I have the animation to show the download starts. But when when I display the progress of ongoing downloads, all downloads are just marked as "failed".
[02:23] <toto`> do you have the same trouble?
[02:24] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, No everything works for me, is it always the same file? or all files? you can always open up a terminal window and type "wget <file source>" and it will download your file into your home directory
[02:25] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, say for instance you wanted to download the google logo you'd type wget https://www.google.com/images/branding/googlelogo/1x/googlelogo_color_272x92dp.png
[02:26] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: yes `wget' works, and in firefox a pdf is opened in a new tab if I've choosed the option to open. But if I've choosed the option to save file then even pdf files fail.
[02:27] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: I've tried "save image as..." and it works
[02:27] <nicomachus> toto`: check this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/cant-download-or-save-files
[02:28] <toto`> nicomachus: thanks but I've already tried. I've created a post at: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1099378
[02:28] <nicomachus> toto`: otherwise, the guys in #firefox can definiely help.
[02:28] <nicomachus> toto`: this probably isn't an ubuntu issue, since wget works just fine. :/
[02:28] <chalcedony> nicomachus, ready when you are - can we do with command line so i can sit at my desk?
[02:29] <nicomachus> yes chalcedony. :) one moment, lemme double check commands.
[02:29] <toto`> nicomachus: thanks for your advice. But you have 43.0 too? and no trouble to download a file? does "save link as..." work for you ?
[02:29] <barkaruka> fuck off u prick
[02:30] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, i found a pdf sample, it works for me how about you? https://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/xml/AdobeXMLFormsSamples.pdf
[02:30] <nicomachus> toto`: works fine for me.
[02:31] <nicomachus> chalcedony: 'sudo rm -r ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1' should do it, minus the quotes.
[02:31] <nicomachus> chalcedony: wait
[02:32] <nicomachus> chalcedony: sudo rm ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1
[02:32] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, if it doesn't id either reinstall firefox or delete your .mozilla folder
[02:32] <zykotick9> nicomachus: are you sure sudo with ~ works correctly?
[02:32] <toto`> nicomachus: arg it still fails when I left click on it (though I have the animation)
[02:32] <nicomachus> no no no, my bad.
[02:32] <nicomachus> ugh.
[02:32] <nicomachus> chalcedony: rm ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1
[02:32] <nicomachus> final answer.
[02:33] <chalcedony> toto`, windows7 just told me it's updating firefox. anything can happen i gather ;)
[02:33] <nicomachus> thank you, zykotick9, for catching that
[02:33] <zykotick9> nicomachus: ;) glad to help
[02:34] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: thank you for the advice but I already tried it. I've removed firefox with synaptic, restarted my Xubuntu, I reinstalled firefox with synaptic, I created a new user to get default parameters, and tried firefox again with all default  parameters... but in this case I have this trouble :(
[02:34] <toto`> (yea I'm with Xubuntu 14.04, not Ubuntu :p)
[02:35] <fabio> list
[02:35] <toto`> chalcedony: yea tell me if you any trouble too please ^^
[02:36] <chalcedony> nicomachus, i'm reinstalling putty. sorry for the delay
[02:37] <nicomachus> no problem, that's good because I typed the command wrong twice anyway. :)
[02:37] <chalcedony> :)
[02:37] <nicomachus> toto`: I just downloaded a couple .gifs in firefox with no problems. Did you try asking in #firefox?
[02:38] <chalcedony> i usually tickle the firefox people on mozilla.org
[02:39] <toto`> nicomachus: thank you very much for your help. I gonna try with #firefox, but I've already post my trouble on mozilla support: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1099378?fpa=1
[02:40] <toto`> nicomachus: but if no one has the same trouble I really dunno how I gonna slove this very strange trouble. If you have ubuntu + firefox 43.0 and if it works for you :S
[02:40] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, can you post the link to the pdf? I'm curious,if not its fine
[02:41] <nicomachus> toto`: I do have ubuntu + firefox 43 and no trouble. sorry. It's gotta be something with Firefox, which isn't supported here.
[02:42] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: it's https://mabanque.bnpparibas/rsc/contrib/document/docs/conditions-generales/PDF_Tarifs_Decembre2014_20141203022544.pdf
[02:42] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: but you should set download options to "save" not to "open with". Undersant it should not open the pdf into a new tab :)
[02:43] <toto`> understand*
[02:43] <nicomachus> toto`: just downloaded that with no issue.
[02:43] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, I was able to download it click the download button within the pdf
[02:44] <toto`> nicomachus: ok thank you very much for your help anyway and informations
[02:44] <slidinghorn> toto`: worked here also
[02:44] <toto`> ctrl_alt_pasta: ok thank you very much you too for your help anyway and informations :)
[02:44] <ctrl_alt_pasta> toto`, you could also try printing to a file, sometimes that works in a pinch. Good luck :)
[02:44] <EndGenius> Starwars...OMFG!
[02:45] <toto`> slidinghorn: thank you for the information. So I really have a strange and lonly trouble :s
[02:45] <nicomachus> EndGenius: wrong channel.
[02:45] <ubuntu374> hello
[02:45] <ubuntu374> can anyone help me with something?
[02:45] <nicomachus> not until you say what it is you need help with. :)
[02:45] <chalcedony> :)
[02:45] <ubuntu374> im going to paste it
[02:45] <chalcedony> ok i'm in nicomachus :)
[02:45] <ubuntu374> Im very very new to linux and ubuntu but i was able to install vmware for so i can follow along with cs50. The problem im running into now is when trying to run vmware workstation 10.0.6 it is saying it needs to kernal module update. Everyone is working except for virtual network device. Ive been reading around and people suggest to patch it and i found what i think is the suitable patch for this version but when i run the sh file 
[02:46] <ubuntu374> 10.0.6
[02:46] <Dylan____> Hello guys should i be upgrading to xubuntu 15.10?
[02:46] <nicomachus> Dylan____: what version are you on now?
[02:46] <Dylan____> 14.04 LTS
[02:47] <nicomachus> Dylan____: up to you then. the LTS is a bit more stable, but 15.10 is just a bit more up to date (4.0 kernel instead of 3).
[02:47] <HackerII> wait till 16.04
[02:47] <ubuntu374> anyone got a clue whats going on with me?
[02:47] <Dylan____> Does the different kernels give better performace?
[02:47] <toto`> nicomachus: hum sorry to bother you again, but #firefox channel isn't on irc.freenode.net?
[02:47] <nicomachus> ubuntu374: not familiar with VMWare, sorry.
[02:47] <Dylan____> Ubuntu whats problem?
[02:47] <ubuntu374> is anyone familiar with vmware?
[02:47] <Dylan____> Sorta
[02:48] <ubuntu374> im trying to run 10.0.6 for vmware workstation
[02:48] <toto`> ubuntu374: idem really can't deal with VMWare sorry
[02:48] <Dylan____> What version of ubuntu?
[02:48] <ubuntu374> its doing the kernel module updater
[02:48] <nicomachus> toto`: yes it is. type in '/join #firefox'
[02:48] <ubuntu374> um the one right before this new update
[02:48] <toto`> ups
[02:48] <Dylan____> 14.04?
[02:48] <ubuntu374> i believe its 15
[02:49] <Dylan____> 15.04?
[02:49] <nicomachus> toto`: you do need to have a registered nick to get into #firefox.
 chalcedony: sudo rm ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1 ?
[02:49] <ubuntu374> 15.10
[02:49] <toto`> nicomachus: thanks. I wrote `friefox' lol
[02:49] <nicomachus> chalcedony: no sudo!
[02:49] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:49] <Dylan____> And whats the problem with vmware
[02:49] <Dylan____> ??
[02:49] <ubuntu374> virtual network device wont module update
[02:49] <ctrl_alt_pasta> ubuntu374, Did you follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Workstation
[02:49] <chalcedony> nicomachus, okies
[02:49] <ubuntu374> says unable to start services
[02:50] <nicomachus> chalcedony: 'rm ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1'
[02:50] <Dylan____> Have you tried rebooting?
[02:50] <toto`> nicomachus: ah ok I gonna register then thank you again. Very kind from yoou
[02:50] <ubuntu374> i have not tried rebooting
[02:50] <Dylan____> Give that a go
[02:50] <chalcedony> nicomachus, rm: cannot remove ‘/home/vir2/.config/dconf’: Is a directory
[02:50] <ubuntu374> be right back
[02:51] <nicomachus> chalcedony: one sec.
[02:51] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:51] <nicomachus> chalcedony: 'rm -r ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1'
[02:51] <Dylan____> Sounds like you need a workaround ubuntu
[02:52] <chalcedony> nicomachus, im just grateful
[02:52] <nicomachus> chalcedony: I've learned like 10 things in this process, so I'm also grateful.
[02:52] <Dylan____> Try this link ubuntu
[02:52] <Dylan____> http://askubuntu.com/questions/613187/vmware-player-and-ubuntu-15-04-net-driver-does-not-compile-anymore-how-to-fix
[02:53] <Dylan____> If it doesnt work suggest using virtualbox ??
[02:53] <nicomachus> Dylan____: fyi, you hit "tab" after typing the first 3 letter it will auto-complete the name and then tag the user.
[02:53] <Dylan____> Im using an ipad to type fyi
[02:53] <nicomachus> ha, oh.
[02:53] <Dylan____> Thats why im using irccloud app haha
[02:54] <chalcedony> nicomachus, rm -r ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1
[02:54] <chalcedony> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/vir2/.dmrc’: No such file or directory
[02:54] <sruli> nicomachus: tnx for that, been typing full names for ever
[02:55] <sruli> chalcedony: seems like you are using the wrong symbols, u should use ~ not ?
[02:56] <chalcedony> sruli, huh?
[02:56] <nicomachus> sruli: it all looks correct to me...
[02:57] <chalcedony> admittedly it didn't want to paste so i typed it
[02:57] <chalcedony> but it looked like it matched?
[02:57] <sruli> the output has ? instead of ~
[02:57] <nicomachus> it does chalcedony, not sure what sruli is talking about
[02:57] <chalcedony> ~$ rm -r ~/.dmrc ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1
[02:57] <chalcedony> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/vir2/.dmrc’: No such file or directory
[02:58] <chalcedony> i don't see a ? in any of that
[02:58] <chalcedony> it's interesting that it can't find the file
[02:58] <nicomachus> chalcedony: the first time it ran through it got hung on ~/.config/dconf, so it probably deleted .dmrc already.
[02:58] <chalcedony> ok
[02:58] <nicomachus> chalcedony: run 'rm -r ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-1'
[03:02] <ubuntu535> ok im back
[03:02] <ubuntu535> the vmware guy
[03:02] <chalcedony>  rm -r ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/compiz-l
[03:02] <chalcedony> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/vir2/.config/dconf’: No such file or directory
[03:02] <chalcedony> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/vir2/.config/compiz-l’: No such file or directory
[03:02] <ubuntu535> who was helping me?
[03:02] <chalcedony> wb ubuntu535 :)
[03:02] <nicomachus> chalcedony: well ok then.
[03:02] <nicomachus> chalcedony: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[03:04] <sruli> chalcedony: gtg best of luck
[03:04] <chalcedony> nicomachus, ok done - looks the same
[03:04] <nicomachus> chalcedony: then a reboot should restore those default files.
[03:04] <chalcedony> sruli, thanks for all your help
[03:04] <nicomachus> and should fix. hopefully. fingers crossed.
[03:04] <chalcedony> have a great night
[03:04] <chalcedony> okies
[03:05] <TheColourUrple> Hello does anyone have any recommendations in regards to affordable braodwell motherboards that are completely compatiable with ubuntu?
[03:09] <chull> nicomachus, it's red. fewer icons on the left and the top bar is still blank.
[03:10] <chull> i think it's supposed to be a mountain stream.
[03:11] <nicomachus> well, it's default unity now. or... should be.
[03:11] <chalcedony> hehe
[03:11] <chalcedony> i guess so
[03:11] <chalcedony> but it should have things on the top?
[03:11] <nicomachus> still nothing at all on the top bar, though?
[03:11] <chalcedony> yep
[03:11] <chalcedony> whatever is broke is broken good
[03:12] <nicomachus> sure is...
[03:12] <nicomachus> hmmm...
[03:12] <ubuntu535> does anyone have like a reference page to the basic commands and what to do with what in ubuntu?
[03:12] <ubuntu535> like basic commands to install files etc
[03:13] <nicomachus> ubuntu535: codecademy has a really good basic command line class. it's free.
[03:13] <chalcedony> ubuntu535, apt-get install ..
[03:13] <nicomachus> great place to start.
[03:13] <SchrodingersScat> !man | ubuntu535
[03:13] <ctrl_alt_pasta> ubuntu535, http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/ubunturef.pdf
[03:13] <nicomachus> ubuntu535: other than that, google is your friend, and man pages.
[03:13] <chalcedony> good one ctrl_alt_pasta :)
[03:14] <chalcedony> i find man pages assume you know more than you do, sometimes
[03:14] <ubuntu535> i just dont even know the basics of programming or anything
[03:14] <ctrl_alt_pasta> chalcedony, Thanks, ubuntu535 just search ubuntu cheat sheets
[03:14] <ubuntu535> and i feel like im wasting my time because all im doing is copy and pasting commands
[03:14] <ubuntu535> i want to be able to understand them and what they are doing
[03:15] <xangua> copying and pasting commands withouth knowing what you are doing is not the best way
[03:15] <chalcedony> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Unleashed-2015-Edition-Covering/dp/0672338378
[03:15] <ctrl_alt_pasta> ubuntu535, then man pages, in the terminal type "man <command>"
[03:16] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu535: can also try command --help , but the man page generally has more detail
[03:16] <nicomachus> ubuntu535: I can't recommend that codecademy course enough. https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
[03:16] <ubuntu535> is it free?
[03:16] <ubuntu535> im taking cs50
[03:16] <nicomachus> yes. :)
[03:16] <ubuntu535> saw it on reddit and installed ubuntu
[03:16] <ubuntu535> and trying to go full force
[03:17] <ubuntu535> also is anyone familer with cs50 or vmware?
[03:17] <nicomachus> that's not anything we support here.
[03:17] <chalcedony> ubuntu535, any of the 'unleashed' books should give you basic to advanced information
[03:17] <ronburgendy> guys, I ran the command in root, "rm -r /*" and now everything is gone. What do I do?
[03:18] <xangua> ronburgendy: start over
[03:18] <ronburgendy> xangua, haha
[03:18] <chalcedony> ronburgendy, that joke is so old it has hair
[03:18] <xangua> don't see the funy part
[03:18] <myztic> question: ubuntu release cycles are extremely short, can I upgade and how cumbersome is this?
[03:18] <ubuntu535> hey everyone can i ask a really dumb question.?
[03:18] <ronburgendy> chalcedony, yea I know.. I'll think of some more later on.
[03:18] <nicomachus> ronburgendy: this is not a channel for jokes.
[03:19] <myztic> ubuntu535: don't ask to ask, never ask to ask, just ask
[03:19] <ubuntu535> is it smarter to not know any code and try to learn everything from scratch on ubuntu or should i reinstall windows and just run virtual machines to learn it
[03:19] <myztic> ubuntu535: you don't need to know coding / programming to run ubuntu, so run it now
[03:19] <ubuntu535> because im having a really hard time just keeping my ubuntu stable
[03:19] <nicomachus> ubuntu535: you don't need to know how to code to use ubuntu. just dive in.
[03:19] <chalcedony> ubuntu535, to me, immersion is good for you. dive in
[03:19] <ubuntu535> im using a netgear a6100
[03:19] <ubuntu535> and i got the linux driver for it
[03:20] <ubuntu535> but i have to keep making it everytime i reboot
[03:20] <SchrodingersScat> myztic: I haven't had problems upgrading in a while.  Read the release notes before you do, in case there's known bugs.  Always have a backup handy just in case.
[03:21] <myztic> SchrodingersScat: but that's how most people are doing it? or are most developers running LTS-versions (I don't think so)
[03:21] <chalcedony> myztic, the LTS versions are fine
[03:21] <chalcedony> depends on what you want to do
[03:21] <ubuntu535> anyone have a clue with my driver issue? i have to keep reinstalling it after every roobot for my wireless adapter
[03:21] <Dylan____> Ubuntu535 are you trying to learn a programming language?
[03:21] <chalcedony> ubuntu535, that is odd
[03:22] <SchrodingersScat> myztic: that's up to you.  If you don't like the idea of upgrading then you can stick with LTS.  If you want slightly newer things then you can feel free to upgrade with non-lts.
[03:22] <ubuntu535> im taking the harvard cs50 course
[03:22] <myztic> the thing, 6 months is extremely short, I could do with 12 to 18, that would be just fine
[03:22] <myztic> but 6...
[03:22] <ronburgendy> Can someone help me free up space on my harddrive. "df" is telling me that /dev/null is at 99%
[03:22] <SchrodingersScat> support overlaps a bit, iirc
[03:23] <myztic> SchrodingersScat: so you are running current ubuntu and are upgrading every 6 months?
[03:24] <ubuntu535> is there a way to keep me from having to install a usb wireless adapaters drivers after every reboot?
[03:24] <Dylan____> Script?
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> myztic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases so it looks like 8 months for non-lts.  Yes, I normally happen to run the latest.  Running xubuntu 15.10 now, and I'll likely move to 16.04 several weeks or a month or two after it's released.  Can use the update manager, or run something like 'do-release-upgrade -m desktop' to start the upgrade.
[03:26] <myztic> SchrodingersScat: k ty :)
[03:26] <ronburgendy> I can't believe no one can help me with my issue.
[03:26] <myztic> I've been using just about everything and have passed the point where I care about which OS is running, 90% of what I do is browser, shell or in an editor so just give me something that runs on most hardware and I am fine ;)
[03:26] <Bashing-om> ronburgendy: /dev/null is a bit bucket . please show the channel in a pastebin ' df -h ' .
[03:26] <Dylan____> Whens 16.04 being released to public or is it still in beta testing
[03:27] <nicomachus> Dylan____: official alpha release is Dec. 31, but you can download it now if you *really* want to. not recommended.
[03:27] <Dylan____> Alright just wanted to know
[03:28] <chalcedony> nicomachus, he was mentioning that he thought it might be a ram issue that caused it. what do you think about that? - and any idea what we can unbreak next?
[03:29] <nicomachus> a RAM issue? hmmm... do you suspect the RAM of being bad?
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> myztic: to each their own.  :)
[03:29] <chalcedony> nicomachus, i suspect his new meds had him pushing buttons one shouldn't push.
[03:29] <Dylan____> Someones having problem installing virtualbox
[03:30] <Dylan____> Says he installed it but isnt coming up in the unity dash
[03:30] <chalcedony> nicomachus, i don't mind running memtest after we get this figured out though
[03:30] <chalcedony> hi keith__
[03:31] <nicomachus> chalcedony: memtest will check the RAM, yea. Bashing-om had a few ideas that we can try as well.
[03:31] <chalcedony> nicomachus, ok like what?
[03:32] <nicomachus> chalcedony: he said 'sudo apt-get install  dconf-tools ; dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ; unity  --reset-icons ; setsid unity
[03:32] <nicomachus> I'm not entirely sure what each does, tbh, but I trust his judgment.
[03:33] <chalcedony> ok let's give it a shot
[03:34] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Fingers and toes crossed .
[03:34] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, thanks indeed!
[03:34] <chalcedony> remind me how to get putty to let me paste?
[03:34] <chalcedony> what i was doing before i reinstalled it isn't working
[03:35] <everton> ola
[03:36] <ronburgendy> right click
[03:37] <ronburgendy> highlight to copy, right click to paste
[03:37] <chalcedony> ronburgendy, um. now it works :)
[03:37] <chalcedony> thanks
[03:37] <ronburgendy> sweeet
[03:37] <Dylan____> Im just curious about this guy
[03:37] <Dylan____> S
[03:38] <Dylan____> Can i have my main os xubuntu run with ubuntu but with the option in the ubuntu install side by side?
[03:38] <chalcedony> dconf-tools is already the newest version.
[03:38] <Dylan____> Or whatever it is
[03:38] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Good .. just means it was already install .. continue .
[03:43] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: nicomachus :; nother thought if you are ssh'n in .. may have to export that display ??
[03:44] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: I believe she has the machine right next to her, or at least within reach.
[03:46] <chull-> Bashing-om, yes. it didni't work too well with ssh, so i tried it here
[03:47] <chull-> sadly i don't think it did all we wanted it to
[03:48] <chull-> failed to fetch xid is part of it
[03:49] <Bashing-om> chull-: Not sure where you are .. but try ' export DISPLAY=:0  ' and run the dconf commands once more .
[03:50] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ok from his desktop or ssh'd?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: From his desktop .
[03:51] <chalcedony> okies
[03:51] <chalcedony> will do
[03:52] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: It looks like you tried to run the dconf reset from outside the GUI desktop (e.g. from a Ctrl-Alt-Fn virtual terminal) , so we need to export the display as our target .
[03:55] <josePHPagoda> hi everyone! I'm having trouble getting my playstation 3 controller to work with Ubuntu using bluetooth.  It works fine in 15.04 but stopped in 15.10.
[03:56] <josePHPagoda> anyone ever attempted it?
[03:57] <nicomachus> josePHPagoda: I haven't tried it with PS3, only xbox controllers, but I did find this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[03:58] <nicomachus> josePHPagoda: it's old, but users report it as working still.
[03:58] <chull-> unknown job: unity-panel-service  - couldn't open display 0  stopping plugin core, unloading plugin core
[03:59] <chull-> this is actually the happiest it has looked
[03:59] <nicomachus> :D
[03:59] <chull-> it still doesn't have anything on the top bar
[04:01] <nicomachus> D:
[04:01] <chalcedony> i know we are trying
[04:02] <nicomachus> chull-: you're on 14.04, correct?
[04:02] <chalcedony> nicomachus, yes
[04:02] <Bashing-om> chull-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1166765 ; contains another approach .
[04:03] <chalcedony> it's not actually the desktop though
[04:03] <chalcedony> it's the menubar at the top
[04:03] <chalcedony> and until we redid unity he had nice graphics
[04:03] <nicomachus> and the bar itself is displayed, just not any text on it?
[04:03] <Dylan____> Hey guys you know how libreoffice comes eih ubuntu right can i uninstall libreoffice and get another office suite?
[04:03] <Dylan____> Or will it stuff up my system
[04:04] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Yeah in the 1st of the bug report is ' gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins '
[04:04] <chalcedony> nicomachus, yes
[04:04] <nicomachus> Dylan____: you can if you'd like.
[04:04] <Dylan____> Alright cause i wanna try this other office suite out
[04:04] <Dylan____> Whats the command to remove libreoffice completely packaged etc
[04:04] <chalcedony> Dylan____, libre office, open office, star office and more
[04:05] <nicomachus> Dylan____: https://askubuntu.com/questions/180403/how-to-uninstall-libreoffice
[04:05] <Dylan____> Wps office looks alright
[04:05] <nicomachus> a few options there.
[04:05] <josePHPagoda> nicomachus: that's how I got it working on older versions,.  There is actually a PPA for everything except 15.10
[04:05] <josePHPagoda> :-(
[04:05] <chalcedony> Dylan____, libre office is robust and full featured, be caerful what you wish for
[04:05] <Dylan____> Alright
[04:06] <nicomachus> chalcedony: did you try 'gsettings reset  org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/  active-plugins
[04:06] <nicomachus> as Bashing-om suggested?
[04:06] <RonWhoCares> I am considering the purchase of a single board computer.  The FAQ says it is compatible with "Ubuntu".  The FAQ says " With the microSD card inserted in the card slot, all files necessary for booting should be installed in a microSD card with FAT32 partition. "
[04:06] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: nicomachus Not to leave yall high and dry , but family time .. I will be back my morrow eve .. if not resolved we continue this fight to find out where the failure lies .
[04:07] <RonWhoCares> Is it common to use a FAT32 ?
[04:07] <nicomachus> thanks for all the help, Bashing-om!
[04:07] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, have a lovely night and thank you
[04:07] <chalcedony> if he's still stuck i will be here
[04:08] <chalcedony> i have to think if that was me and my computer, he would move heaven and earth to fix it
[04:08] <nicomachus> :)
[04:08] <chalcedony> nicomachus, i'm not sure if i did those
[04:08] <nicomachus> chalcedony: we still have several drastic measures left in the ammo bag, but go ahead and try that gsettings reset first.
[04:09] <chalcedony> okies - remote or on his?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: I'll be BACK . // I know the feeling ... should see this house hold if and when one of our computers is down !
[04:09] <choppyubuntu> hi. i experience choppy playback when playing video on fullscreen and when watching YouTube. what supposed to be the problem?
[04:09] <nicomachus> chalcedony: would probably work better on his, but should also work remotely.
[04:09] <chalcedony> i have been extremely blessed to have this windows laptop for backup.
[04:11] <chalcedony> i'll go there
[04:16] <chull-> (process:3767): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=1faa6effd0b0759e16eda09b541b3b37 --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1
[04:20] <nicomachus> chull-: let's try it again, but put 'DISPLAY=:0' at the beginning.
[04:21] <chalcedony> nicomachus, okies
[04:23] <chull-> ok rebooting
[04:34] <chull-> it loback
[04:34] <chull-> still red, nthing on the bar
[04:35] <nicomachus>  oooooook. how do you feel about some drastic measures?
[04:36] <nicomachus> you could try installing Unity 8, which is still in pre-release. if the issues persist, then it's a deeper error. however, if that fixes it, then we may be able to get Unity 7 working again with a complete removal and reinstall.
[04:37] <chalcedony> ok
[04:37] <chalcedony> what sort of deeper error removes something so basic?
[04:37] <nicomachus> I honestly am not sure.
[04:38] <nicomachus> :/
[04:38] <chalcedony> yes me too
[04:38] <nicomachus> you can install Unity 8 with 'sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir'
[04:38] <chalcedony> again it's messed up his settings pretty much already
[04:38] <chalcedony> okies
[04:39] <nicomachus> then you will need to log out, and on the login screen click on the ubuntu logo next to the username. it'll give you menu where you can select Unity 8, and then log in.
[04:43] <chalcedony> gee this is big
[04:46] <nicomachus> it's really not too bad, you're just installing a separate Desktop Environment which you can switch to without affecting Unity 7 (yet)
[04:46] <chalcedony> ok 5 more min
[04:53] <chalcedony> heh i was wishfully thinking - it's still going
[04:57] <chalcedony> ok finished
[05:00] <Guest19676> hey guys
[05:00] <Guest19676> when i open my windows network from my ubuntu 14.04 it is very slow
[05:00] <nicomachus> chalcedony: ok, now log out and switch over to Unity 8
[05:00] <Guest19676> from other computers it is normal
[05:00] <nicomachus> let's see what it looks like.
[05:02] <Guest19676> can anybody advice
[05:03] <chull> nicomachus, you said 'ubuntu logo next to the username' - where?
[05:03] <nicomachus> chull: https://i.stack.imgur.com/7mX8p.jpg
[05:04] <nicomachus> chull: then: https://i.stack.imgur.com/hvmx4.jpg
[05:04] <nicomachus> except yours won't say "LXC"
[05:04] <chull> what i have there is CD
[05:05] <nicomachus> Cd...? what? where?
[05:06] <chull> nicomachus, he was trying to get it to boot to the cd to see if he could repair it. before we started working on it
[05:06] <chull> maybe the bios is still set that way
[05:06] <chull> cd is where the ubuntu logo ought to be
[05:07] <gambl0re> when i check my version of nodejs in ubuntu i get v0.10.25...is that the latest version?
[05:07] <nicomachus> chull: well if you click that, does it give you the DE menu?
[05:08] <tiva> hello
[05:09] <sparqz> hi tiva
[05:09] <xangua> !latest | gambl0re
[05:09] <sparqz> do they have a rolling release?
[05:10] <xangua> Ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[05:10] <chull> i have cairo-dock(gnome), ubuntu(default), and unity8 mir
[05:10] <nicomachus> chull: yea, select unity 8 mir
[05:10] <chull> ok
[05:11] <nicomachus> wait... what was it on before?
[05:11] <nicomachus> CD... for cairo-dock?
[05:11] <chull> maybe. its not logging me in.
[05:11] <chull> it goes back to the login
[05:12] <nicomachus> yea you have to login then.
[05:12] <nicomachus> now I'm really afraid that you were set on Cairo-Dock as a DE this whole time and we've been bamboozled.
[05:12] <chull> oh wow
[05:12] <tiva> this is the first time i am useing this chat room... what is it?   we talk about what
[05:13] <nicomachus> !ot | tiva
[05:14] <chull> it let me log into cairo-dock(gnome) and I got a flag that it wants a sysem restart
[05:15] <chull> there was another flag after we did the install
[05:15] <nicomachus> don't log into cairo-dock.
[05:15] <chull> so i clicked yes on that and then it wanted to restart
[05:15] <chull> ah ok ill log out again
[05:16] <chull> and yes cd is back
[05:16] <nicomachus> ok... click that and select Unity (default)
[05:16] <Raistlin> !lastseen daftykins
[05:16] <chull> ok
[05:17] <Raistlin> aww no lastseen? ;/
[05:17] <chull> this one has information on the top bar: temperature, mail sound time etc
[05:18] <nicomachus> chull: so it looks normal?
[05:18] <chull> Raistlin, i think he spoke earlier
[05:18] <nicomachus> Raistlin: sorry, we don't have that feature here.
[05:18] <Raistlin> lol thanks chill
[05:18] <nicomachus> he's usually on during the day
[05:18] <Raistlin> we was a huge help some time back, though I think I'm better off in the suse channel now
[05:19] <Raistlin> *he was
[05:19] <nicomachus> chull: you logged in under Unity (default) and it all looks correct?
[05:19] <nicomachus> Raistlin: daftykins is always a huge help. :)
[05:19] <chull> yes
[05:19] <blugingress> Hello, My super does not work suddenly... How can I have it work again?
[05:19] <gambl0re> can anyone guide me on how to remove npm and node completely? im completely lost
[05:19] <nicomachus> oh wow. lol.
[05:19] <chull> has the remote icons for ff too
[05:19] <Raistlin> nicomachus: I bet
[05:19] <blugingress> I am using 15.10
[05:19] <nicomachus> chull: so.... nothing was ever broken.
[05:19] <blugingress> Hello, My super KEY does not work suddenly... How can I have it work again?
[05:20] <nicomachus> chull: the wrong DE was just selected from that menu this whole time.
[05:20] <chull> mmm his cairo-dock is broken
[05:20] <nicomachus> oh.
[05:20] <nicomachus> well, 'sudo apt-get purge --remove cairo-dock && sudo apt-get install cairo-dock"
[05:20] <chull> or at least that's what it appears
[05:20] <chull> but this one is fie
[05:20] <chull> fine
[05:21] <gambl0re> are there any ubuntu ninja gurus in here that can help guide me on how to remove npm/nodejs from my system.
[05:21] <Raistlin> i'm trying to prep for my CLA / CLP certs, also building my first SLES with other stuff
[05:21] <nicomachus> cairo-dock isn't really a Desktop Environment, it just sets it up as one for some reason. but you shouldn't even actually boot into that.
[05:22] <chull> wow i see
[05:22] <chull> so he was in the wrong thing?
[05:22] <nicomachus> Raistlin: that's great. however, this channel is strictly ubuntu support. other topics can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <nicomachus> chull: yea, it looks like it...
[05:22] <chull> it's probably going to boot to 8 when i restart it
[05:22] <nicomachus> it shouldn't, but we can go ahead and remove 8. it's not needed now.
[05:23] <chull> wow!
[05:23] <Raistlin> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <nicomachus> chull: sudo apt-get purge --remove unity8-desktop-session-mir
[05:23] <chull> ok i can do that remotely?
[05:23] <nicomachus> chull: yep.
[05:23] <chull> ok
[05:23] <nicomachus> sooo... all fixed then?
[05:23] <nicomachus> \o/
[05:25] <chalcedony> wow!
[05:25] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: have yiu followed their documentation? https://docs.npmjs.com/misc/removing-npm
[05:25] <chalcedony> that was certainly an adventure
[05:26]  * slidinghorn cheers for chull & nicomachus 
[05:26] <chalcedony> indeed slidinghorn :))
[05:26] <gambl0re> yes id id
[05:26] <chalcedony> nicomachus, deserves all the credit :)
[05:26] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: where are you stuck?
[05:26] <gambl0re> can someone explain to me whats the difference if i install something with/without sudo command?
[05:27] <nicomachus> chalcedony: you're a good wife to go through all that for your husband.
[05:27]  * nicomachus is going to bed.
[05:27] <Raistlin> gambl0re: it's like in windows right-clicking on something and running it as admin
[05:27] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: if you dont use sudo, you wont be a privileged user
[05:27] <gambl0re> but do they install in different locations?
[05:27] <chalcedony> nicomachus, we support each other, he's great when he feels better
[05:28] <gambl0re> or would it be the same?
[05:28] <nicomachus> no, it won't install at all gambl0re
[05:28] <gambl0re> what?
[05:28] <nicomachus> gambl0re: you must use sudo to install almost anything.
[05:28] <nicomachus> because apt-get, the application which installs programs, requires root privileges to run.
[05:29] <nicomachus> night everyone.
[05:29] <gambl0re> ok i dont know what im doing wrong....i followed instructions from https://docs.npmjs.com/misc/removing-npm , http://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/install-nodejs-ubuntu-14-04/ , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11177954/how-do-i-completely-uninstall-node-js-and-reinstall-from-beginning-mac-os-x
[05:30] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: at what point in the official documentation do you get stuck?
[05:31] <gambl0re> i run the first command
[05:31] <xangua> so you followed documentation to remove, then for install, then a guide for OSX?
[05:31] <gambl0re> sudo npm uninstall npm -g
[05:32] <gambl0re> npm WARN uninstall not installed in /usr/local/lib/node_modules: "npm"
[05:34] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: locate npm     post result to pastebin please
[05:34] <YoYoSup> Hello
[05:35] <YoYoSup> I have a problem with my wifi router drivers.
[05:35] <YoYoSup> My wifi catches more than 7-8 networks on win10 whereas on ubuntu it catches only 1 network
[05:35] <slidinghorn> gambl0re: im sorry i lied...  where npm       not locate
[05:37] <YoYoSup> +hist 100
[05:38] <slidinghorn> YoYoSup: please run the script mentioned here and post the pastebin here with a description of your problem. it will help others help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108
[05:41] <slidinghorn> !pm | gambl0re
[05:42] <john__> hello
[05:43] <energizer> I just got a notification that my boot partition is almost full. How do I start to fix this?
[05:45] <xangua> remove any kernels you no longer use (leave at least the latest 2 working ones) energizer
[05:45] <Mchammerdad> can anyone recommend some books or deeper material on PXE servers and linux
[05:45] <slidinghorn> energizer: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean      will get you started. Give the apt-get man a read (man apt-get) for more info on what those do
[05:46] <slidinghorn> Mchammerdad: try #ubuntu-offtopic - mlre of a question for them :)
[05:47] <slidinghorn> s/mlre/more
[05:57] <energizer> cool thanks xangua slidinghorn
[06:13] <Dylan____> Hello guys anyone got any good programs thst can reduce overheating ?
[06:14] <energizer> xangua: is it possible that i just accidentally removed the kernel that im using? here's my dpkg --list 'imux-image*'
[06:14] <Dylan____> I installed psensor etc just so i can monitor my temps but as far as like apps or something could you recommend
[06:14] <energizer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14071402/
[06:21] <Dylan____> Is 65 degrees celcius good for temperature in a macbook?
[06:22] <Dylan____> Cause my core 1 is ar 54degrees
[06:22] <Dylan____> Apprently i got two temps and two cores
[06:22] <Dylan____> One temp reads 66 now and the other 34
[06:25] <slidinghorn> Dylan____: deoends on the processor but thats not amything troubling for most
[06:26] <Dylan____> Well my macbook 2010 7,1 runs a intel core two duo
[06:26] <Dylan____> Idk how old though
[06:27] <Dylan____> But i know its a 5 year macbook
[06:32] <RSLeduc> Hello.
[06:35] <Sniper41m> which is better? vi or emacs ? in ubuntu
[06:39] <Dylan____> Yo
[06:40] <lufi> hi, what is the -u option in lsb_release?
[06:40] <Dylan____> Not sure
[06:40] <Dylan____> Haha
[06:40] <Dylan____> Im grasping ubuntu slowly
[06:44] <slidinghorn> Sniper41m: its all based on your personal needs/opinion
[06:45] <slidinghorn> lufi: cant look it up rihht now but check man lsb_release
 i can't see line number on gedit and i want to do shell scripting so, what do u suggest ?
[06:45] <blugingress> hi, I have a problem, Now my left SHIFT act as "alt + F4", whenever i press left SHIFT, the system try to kill current window... I could hardly use my ubuntu now... Any help?
[06:46] <lufi> slidinghorn, im actually using elementary right now .it doesn't show up in the man either
[06:47] <lufi> tried checking it here too. no luck http://linux.die.net/man/1/lsb_release
[06:47] <slidinghorn> i believe theres an option on gedit for that...... Edit > Preferences
[06:48] <lufi> I am trying to add hevc support by following this guide http://linuxg.net/how-to-enable-the-playback-support-for-the-hevc-and-h-265-file-formats-on-ubuntu-14-10-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-12-04-and-derivative-systems/
[06:48] <slidinghorn> lufi: im on my phone at the bar right nkw so i cant look into it. Maybe someone else would know
[06:48] <lufi> but when I add the repo it says that -u is an unknown option .and when I triend apt-get update it cant seem to find the repo (404 response)
[06:49] <lufi> yeah thanks anyway slidinghorn .will idle for a while just in case someone replies ^_^
[06:52] <ropo> .bash_profile doesn't automatically load when i open the terminal, i always have to `source .bash_profile`. Help me
[06:55] <chandan> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-trusty.git/tree/?h=lts-backport-wily
[06:56] <chandan> Is that the kernel repository for 14.04.4?
[06:56] <zykotick9> ropo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/121073/why-bash-profile-is-not-getting-sourced-when-opening-a-terminal
[06:59] <xangua> chandan: no
[07:04] <lufi> I am trying to follow this guide but i cant seem to fetch the ppa:strukturag/libde265 repo http://linuxg.net/how-to-enable-the-playback-support-for-the-hevc-and-h-265-file-formats-on-ubuntu-14-10-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-12-04-and-derivative-systems/
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> lufi: we dont support ppa's here
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> lufi: remove the ppa to get your system properly again
[07:05] <boriseto> is the main repo server down or something?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> boriseto: whats going on?
[07:06] <boriseto> lotuspsychje, the updater / software installer (apt-get) get stuck when downloading from ppa.launchpad.net or archive.ubuntu.com
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> boriseto: wich ubuntu version and did you sudo apt-get update first?
[07:07] <boriseto> 14.04 and yes, it gets stuck on the update
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> boriseto: did you add ppa's of any kind that arent official?
[07:09] <boriseto> lotuspsychje, yes, but it isn't stuck on them, but on the official ones. It happens on both of my machines that have different ppas (one is a clean install that only had one ppa which I'm very sure that it works atm)
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> boriseto: if you sure its not about ppa's, you could ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for known issues
[07:10] <boriseto> lotuspsychje, thank you
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | lufi
[07:17] <lufi> lotuspsychje, thanks. workin on it
[07:18] <lufi> a side question tho, does lsb_release doesnt have a -u option? I get an unknown option error when I add 3rd party ppa's
[07:22] <rypervenche> lufi: lsb_release --help
[07:33] <lufi> rypervenche, -u doesn't show up there even in linux.die.net/man/1/lsb_release doesn't show a -u option
[07:35] <yuidersa> lufi: so
[07:36] <rypervenche> luny: Yep, no -u option.
[07:36] <lufi> yuidersa, i am just confused why does it search for the -u option when I add ppa's like this one ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> lufi: dont add ppa's
[07:38] <yuidersa> lufi: got it no ppa
[07:39] <lufi> ok got it. yuidersa thanks for that very helpful pm tho
[07:39] <yuidersa> What pm
[07:41] <kaz_> How do I update my boot loader?
[07:43] <Dylan____> Sudo update grub
[07:43] <Dylan____> Or something
[07:51] <Dylan____> What startup applications can i disable?
[07:51] <Dylan____> Anything in particular
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> Dylan____: depends on what you need and not
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> Dylan____: your on systemd or init?
[07:53] <gravyv> Can I boot from usb on a old laptop
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> gravyv: yes, download 'plop boot' manager on a cdrom to force load usb ubuntu
[07:54] <darkside86> is there a BitTorrent client that supports proxies and fails when proxy connections don't work for Ubuntu Linux?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !torrent | darkside86 try here?
[07:55] <darkside86> Thanks, lotuspsychje
[07:55] <zetheroo> Is the Grub rescue shell password protected by default?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: no, but there is a recent exploit on grub, maybe related?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !usn | zetheroo check it out here
[07:56] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje:  yes, I just read about it :)
[07:56] <darkside86> I will look up all except Deluge, which I know defaults to non-proxy when possible. (I learned the hard way from my proxy service help)
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> darkside86: i like qbittorrent myself but not sure if it handles proxy
[07:57] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: I am just curious - articles are saying that with access to the GRS one can install "malware"  - I didn't know you could install anything from there ...
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: a hackers way is mysterious, keep up to date :p
[07:58] <Gallomimia> my firefox won't launch. i tried rebooting. no joy. also, i need to install chrome; is there a package?
[07:59] <Gallomimia> !chrome
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | Gallomimia
[08:00] <Gallomimia> ty
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: try launching firefox from terminal, see what errors you get
[08:00] <Gallomimia> oh that'll help
[08:01] <Gallomimia> some permissions...
[08:01] <TomyWork> does ppa-purge remove all unreferenced automatic dependencies and all local packages?
[08:01] <Gallomimia> oh. my .gnome2 dir is owned by root. uncool
[08:01] <TomyWork> it looks like that to me
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: think you need to purge ppa line per line
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: depends how many you added?
[08:04] <Gallomimia> lotuspsychje: a simple chown fixed it. not recursive. thanks for the diagnostic idea
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Gallomimia
[08:05] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje well the packages it wants to remove are not even from the ppa, according to apt-cache policy
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: wait, your trying to ppa purge official repos?
[08:06] <TomyWork> no
[08:07] <TomyWork> nm i was wrong. it *is* from the ppa
[08:07] <TomyWork> what kind of silly ppa upgrades dkms?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | TomyWork read this again mate
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: your system will act weird, until you clean all out
[08:08] <TomyWork> yes, i know
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: what i would do, is start over to a clean install, and do things the right way
[08:09] <TomyWork> not an option, unfortunately
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: ok then cleanout all thirs party sources and sudo apt-get update
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> !sources | TomyWork
[08:17] <TomyWork> i know how apt works :)
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: just trying to think along mate
[08:20] <narbeh> Hi, I have a problem with my laptop's touchpad.
[08:21] <narbeh> Since ubuntu 15.10 removed "Disable while typing" option, I cannot make it work with syndaemon
[08:24] <WundaBoi> Sup room
[08:25] <TomyWork> man this system is in a horrible state and i just got a mail from my not-terribly-fond-of-package-managers coworker explaining why
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !ask | WundaBoi
[08:26] <WundaBoi> Is there any way to make plymouth give me a differant shutdown wallpaper to my boot screen wallpaper?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> narbeh: maybe unity-tweak-tool can change touchpad stuff again?
[08:27] <narbeh> lotuspsychje: it doesn't have any option for touchpad
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> narbeh: ok, maybe dconf-editor tweak somewhere
[08:28] <TomyWork> is there anything i can do apart from "debsums | grep -v 'OK$'" to figure out which packages were modified?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> narbeh: did you test this on LTS?
[08:28] <WundaBoi> Would be dope if my shutdown wallpaper said game over...
[08:28] <narbeh> lotuspsychje: LTS is fine, but I wonder why 15.10 doesn't have "Disable while typing" option
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> narbeh: not sure, perhaps removed?
[08:29] <narbeh> lotuspsychje: do you have that ?
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> narbeh: im on LTS mate sorry
[08:29] <narbeh> okk thanks
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> WundaBoi: there are tools out there to change boot wallz, but be carefull with ppa adding, its on your own risk
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> WundaBoi: better to let ubuntu plymouth at default
[08:32] <akram> hi all
[08:33] <akram> I am using Ubuntu 15 on a MacBook Pro hardware. My left Super key is mappend to minimizing windows, how can I disable this. The right is Super key is ok
[08:35] <TomyWork> 15.what?
[08:35] <TomyWork> this aint fedora :)
[08:39] <WundaBoi> lotuspsychje: That's kinda depressing. I was hoping it could be done in a script in the plymouth directory.
[08:39] <Wisnia> hi
[08:40] <Wisnia> who can help me with moving buttons minimize max close from left to right?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> WundaBoi: perhaps there's a manual trick, never tried myself
[08:41] <WundaBoi> lotuspsychje: Thanks anyway. I can't find much info on the question.
[08:41] <WundaBoi> Anyone else Know if I can make plymouth give me a differant shutdown wallpaper to my boot screen wallpaper?
[08:42] <amignon> Hello. I have a problem on a freshly installed 15.10 with dual screen. I have an additional screen plugged on my laptop. When I maximize a window located on the additional screen it always maximizes on the laptop screen
[08:42] <WundaBoi> Without additional software preferably...
[08:46] <amignon> Wisnia, You can do it with unity-tweak-tools
[08:49] <akis> hi all. i am wondering if there is available a new stable driver for RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter without the issues already reported.
[09:01] <KKkKK> hi. some1 can help me verify that i've been hacked?
[09:04] <danmulvey> sure whats your banking login and mothers maiden name, ill run the tests and see
[09:05] <KKkKK> http://pastebin.com/rHmJzN04
[09:05] <novanauliazami> already began
[09:07] <rodddas> give me a kiss please
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | danmulvey
[09:07] <KKkKK> http://pastebin.com/PDaUqr7Q
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> rodddas: this is an ubuntu support channel you joined
[09:08] <rodddas> oh :(
[09:09] <danmulvey> lotuspsychje: sorry about that, i wasnt paying attention to which window i had active and assumed i was in another. my mistake, wont happen again
[09:09] <hubba_rub_dub> can i set a custom bash prompt in a virtualenv environment?
[09:12] <KKkKK> lotuspsychje: i use ubuntu... i just want confirm that isnt false/positive
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: we had users reporting suckit as false positive before here
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: try a clamav scan also
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: your system is up to date to latest also?
[09:16] <KKkKK> lotuspsychje: when i ssh, fingerprint is diffrent than before, i dont use 3th party repos, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, yes it is up to date
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: think its false positive, scan with clamav anyways :p
[09:18] <KKkKK> lotuspsychje: ty. but what about diffrent fingerprint?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: you using fail2ban to protect ssh hammering?
[09:21] <KKkKK> lotuspsychje: nope. diffrent port only.
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> KKkKK: talke to the #openssh guys perhaps, they might know
[09:24] <jaywink> hi gang. any idea how to forcibly unmount a mounted nfs share. tried already "sudo umount -lf /mountedpath" which just runs forever. I mounted the folder at home and now at another location my home network nfs of course is gone :)
[09:29] <easyOnMe> anyone here has used Komodo IDE before
[09:29] <easyOnMe> I just want to know how to uninstall Komodo IDE my 21 day trial period ends
[09:30] <easyOnMe> anyone please help
[09:31] <WundaBoi> lotuspsychje: I keep finding the answer "if you want to do anything more advanced you should study it". Are they saying I should study advanced shell scripting and the plymouth source code, then alter the script myself?
[09:31] <chandan> Hello all, where can i find the 'daily-live' ppc64le iso images for ubuntu 14.04.4?
[09:32] <WundaBoi> ...could be a long night
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> WundaBoi: i think ubuntu-tweak can change boot screens, but again be carefull with ppa adding, at your own risk
[09:34] <WundaBoi> lotuspsychje: It can make the shutdown different to the boot wallpaper?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> WundaBoi: maybe this usefull? http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/
[09:39] <WundaBoi> lotuspsychje: That still results in the shutdown wallpaper being the same as the boot wallpaper.
[09:39] <Iresf> hi everyone
[09:39] <WundaBoi> Sup Iresf
[09:39] <kubuntu-kde> hi
[09:39] <easyOnMe> anyone here has used Komodo IDE before
[09:39] <easyOnMe> I just want to know how to uninstall Komodo IDE my 21 day trial period ends
[09:39] <easyOnMe> anyone here has used Komodo IDE before
[09:39] <easyOnMe> anyone please help
[09:40] <Iresf> i am in iran and i can not accesss to some website or server and i need to a free proxy for ubuntu  do you know a good proxy like tor ?
[09:40] <ikonia> easyOnMe: are you having a problem with it ?
[09:40] <easyOnMe> yup
[09:40] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what's the problem
[09:40] <easyOnMe> i just want to uninstall it
[09:40] <ikonia> easyOnMe: how did you install it ?
[09:41] <easyOnMe> through the terminal
[09:41] <ikonia> thats not an answer
[09:41] <ikonia> how did you actually install it
[09:42] <easyOnMe> ikonia: I unzip the downloaded file then went inside the unzip folder using the terminal and invoke the ./install.sh
[09:43] <easyOnMe> ikonia: any ideas how I can uninstall Komodo IDE 9
[09:46] <gke9> hello everyone, I cannot change permissions of a read-only folder and its files via gksudo. is this command correct to grant it read-write access: sudo chmod 755 -R /filepath/ ?
[09:48] <ikonia> easyOnMe: you need to read that script and undo what it did
[09:48] <ikonia> easyOnMe: this is the price of not using official packages
[09:48] <easyOnMe> ikonia: yup
[09:48] <ikonia> gke9: it's READ ONLY
[09:48] <easyOnMe> learned my lesson here
[09:48] <ikonia> gke9: that means making a change would need to be able to write - as it's read only you can't write to it, to make the change
[09:49] <ikonia> gke9: or are you actually talking about the file system permissions
[09:49] <ikonia> gke9: 755 is quite open
[09:49] <gke9> ikonia, yes, the latter
[09:49] <yrj> Hi, how to execute a command which takes arguments from a file( the file is being read line by line in a while loop)
[09:50] <gke9> I'd like to be able to modify the files, and save them, too
[09:50] <ikonia> gke9: so that will make it writeable, but it will ad additional permissions
[09:50] <gke9> ikonia, would there be a better alternative to 755 ?
[09:51] <ikonia> gke9: really depends on your needs, google "chmod calculator"
[09:51] <gke9> sorry, correcting it as 'sudo chmod 755 -R /folderpath/', which I guess would be the one to apply the permission to all folders, subfolders, files..?
[09:52] <ikonia> gke9: it would do all subdirectories and files yes
[09:52] <ikonia> 755 is still quite open
[09:52] <WundaBoi> Is there any way to make plymouth give me a differant shutdown wallpaper to my boot screen wallpaper?
[09:54] <ikonia> not really
[09:55] <WundaBoi> hmm
[09:56] <gke9> ikonia, thank you, chmod calculator explained what 3-digit numbers were about. but I wonder if I need to add 'other' here for myself, as the read-only folders probably are already owner-only (though the owner is me,too, which is why I dont understand how they abruptly became read-only)
[09:59] <yrj> Hi, how to execute a command which takes arguments from a file( the file is being read line by line in a while loop)
[10:03] <gke9> ikonia, I made a horrible mistake by accident: I typed 'sudo chmod 606 -R /' and everything in file manager and launch bar, top pane seem to have disappeared. how can I revert this?
[10:04] <gke9> I stopped the process in a few seconds, but it'd already done these changes
[10:05] <gke9> can you help please?
[10:05] <blugingress> hi, i have problem with my key mapping.... the Shift_L perform a "close current window" action.... How can i fix this?
[10:05] <gke9> ok, just noticed that only the icons on the launcher bar have disappeared, when I click on their places, the programs still open
[10:06] <yrj> Hi, how to execute a command which takes arguments from a file( the file is being read line by line in a while loop)
[10:06] <gke9> no, they dont
[10:07] <gke9> can you help me please?
[10:09] <stangeland> Where can i setup if a NIC should use eg. 1000bit duplex?
[10:09] <gke9> is there anyone to help please?
[10:13] <klabautermann_> hi, anyone here that can help me with a little find-sed-foo?
[10:16] <yrj> Hi, how to execute a command which takes arguments from a file( the file is being read line by line in a while loop)
[10:22] <ikonia> gke9: re-install
[10:22] <ikonia> gke9: you've screwed the permissions on the whole machine, backup your data, re-install and restore your personal data
[10:24] <gke9> ikonia, is there no way to revert the permissions? with chmod or some way other?
[10:25] <ikonia> gke9: you'd have to manually set permissions on each directory / file
[10:25] <ikonia> hence why a reinstall is quicker and safer
[10:25] <ikonia> people have wrote scripts - but I would not trust them
[10:26] <gke9> ikonia, there are not many personal files, and it'd be really enough for me to recover them first
[10:26] <ikonia> gke9: just backup the personal files then and re-install the OS
[10:27] <gke9> ikonia, I dont see anything in my file manager now. how can I make them visible so that I can back them up?
[10:28] <yrj> Hi, how to execute a command which takes arguments from a file( the file is being read line by line in a while loop)
[10:30] <Amek> Hey there I got a quick question about Ubuntu Mate
[10:30] <Amek> I am running a i7 processor on my laptop, which version of Mate should I download?
[10:30] <compdoc> Amek, the newest one?
[10:31] <Amek> Yeah but I have to choose between an intel x86. amd x64 or mac
[10:31] <Amek> my processor is an x64 intel though
[10:31] <ikonia> Amek: amd64 = generic 64bit
[10:32] <ikonia> Amek: so amd64 is what you want
[10:32] <ikonia> Amek: if you show me the output of "uname -a" on your machine we can verify
[10:33] <gke9> ikonia, nothing is visible / accessible right now ('you dont have permissions to..'), can I make these personal files visible to back them up?
[10:34] <ikonia> gke9: quick fix "sudo chmod -R 770"
[10:34] <ikonia> backup your files
[10:34] <ikonia> re-install
[10:43] <nigro> So /part and /quit are on a boat and /part falls out, who's left?
[10:47] <moafh> i used the mini.iso to install but selected "choose pkgs manually", can i use the mini.iso again to redo just that part without reinstalling?
[10:48] <trijntje> moafh: I dont think so, just log into the system and install het packages you want. Or start the whole installation again
[10:52] <wrksx_> hello guys
[10:52] <wrksx_> just got my hands on a fresh ubuntu install (14.4)
[10:53] <wrksx_> I installed the mariadb-server package and on my next login I notice this weird message
[10:53] <wrksx_> *** System restart required ***
[10:53] <wrksx_> Is this expected?
[10:53] <wrksx_> do you guys think it's linked to the mariaDB install ?
[10:53] <ikonia> no, it's probably taken other updates too
[10:53] <ikonia> restart as suggested
[10:55] <wrksx_> ikonia, so the system is automatically updated
[10:55] <wrksx_> I mean, is the system automatically updated?
[10:55] <ikonia> I don't know your config, but when you install a package and it pulls down the dependencis for packages, they are also updated
[10:56] <wrksx_> I never had to restart my debian system after installing mariadb that's why I'm a bit suprised
[10:56] <Abe> is it normal that kde uses a lot of memory after a period of time?
[10:56] <ikonia> please re-read what I said
[10:56] <ikonia> Abe: define a lot of memory
[10:56] <wrksx_> ikonia, got it I will restart the system
[10:56] <wrksx_> reboot is fine on ubuntu?
[10:56] <wrksx_> reboot command
[10:57] <ikonia> yes
[10:57] <wrksx_> ikonia, okay thanks for the help
[11:00] <Abe> 3gb when everything is turned off
[11:00] <Abe> when I turn my pc on it's about 800MB but it grows after time up to 3gb. so memory isn't freed
[11:01] <ikonia> how are you measuring this ?
[11:01] <Abe> I have a kde widget, simple system monitor or I type in "free" into my terminal
[11:02] <ikonia> Abe: can I see the output of free you are refering to
[11:02] <Abe> ok wait pls
[11:03] <tough9870> Um, thi is where you get "help" right?
[11:03] <tough9870> this*
[11:03] <ikonia> tough9870: this is ubuntu help yes
[11:03] <Abe> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072526/
[11:04] <tough9870> ikonia: Oh okay then.
[11:04] <ikonia> Abe: thats fine, you have loads of spare ram
[11:04] <ikonia> Abe: it's that spare it's being used as file system cache
[11:05] <Abe> yeah luckly I have lots of ram. still it look kinda weird that it grows over time
[11:05] <tough9870> Su, um, have you ever encountered some sort of dbus error while booting up ubuntu through Chromebook's terminal before?
[11:06] <paulo_> hello
[11:06] <paulo_> I have a mac mini 2014
[11:06] <ikonia> tough9870: ubuntu isn't supported on the chome book
[11:06] <ikonia> tough9870: you're using a chroot install with one of those scripts
[11:06] <paulo_> i'm trying to get the wifi to work on live CD
[11:06] <paulo_> is there a way to figure out what chip the mac mini is using from within Ubuntu?
[11:07] <ikonia> lspci
[11:07] <tough9870> What do you mean? Chromebook can support it. I managed to boot it in the terminal.
[11:07] <ikonia> tough9870: how did you install it?
[11:09] <tough9870> I went to dev. mode, then downloaded the crouton file, then installed it with command sudo sh -e ~/Downloads/crouton -r trusty -t unity -e
[11:09] <ikonia> there we go
[11:09] <ikonia> thats not an ubuntu install
[11:09] <ikonia> thats just putting some userspace stuff in
[11:09] <ikonia> talk to the crouton guys for support
[11:10] <tough9870> Oh, okay. Thank you.
[11:11] <zetheroo> one of our users (with 14.04) is installing a self-compiled deb (vim74) which installation creates a directory in /opt/ - however after an unknown amount of time (several hours or overnight) the directory is no longer there. Is such a thing even possible or has anyone heard of something like this happening? First for me.
[11:12] <Abe> zetheroo: sounds weird to me
[11:19] <Abe> is there a way to save the html5 player in youtube as standard in firefox? it's always returning to the flash player
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Abe: html5 loads youtubes when possible, when the video is flash it fallsback to flash
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Abe: use chromium-browser as alternative?
[11:25] <Abe> No I've been using firefox since I remember, the funny thing is my can give me full html5 support. but is using flash instead. I always have to request the html5 player here. that add-on for firefox allhtml5 is buggy for me... :/ http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=23786948
[11:25] <Siilwyn> Hi there, I'm trying to find a way/shortcut to get sloped quote marks. I found the following website but the shortcuts for Ubuntu seem to do nothing: http://smartquotesforsmartpeople.com/
[11:25] <Siilwyn>  “blocky” “sloped”
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Abe: you can set youtube to favorite html5 above flash in ettings
[11:26] <Abe> where exactly I looked everywhere in the FF settings. i dont find it. seems like my browser is not saving my settings
[11:26] <Abe> either
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Abe: not in firefox, in youtube settings
[11:28] <Abe> there are settings in youtube?
[11:28] <Siilwyn> Abe, https://www.youtube.com/html5
[11:28] <Abe> You have to know I'm never logged in into youtube
[11:29] <Siilwyn> You don't need an account for that I think
[11:29] <Abe> Siilwyn: I know I have to request it everytime I start my browser to use it
[11:29] <Abe> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=23786948
[11:31] <Abe> yakuake
[11:31] <Abe> ...
[11:32] <Siilwyn> Abe, just use an extension that blocks/disables flash on YT then
[11:32] <Siilwyn> Even better remove flash from your pc. =)
[11:34] <Abe> Siilwyn: yeah thats what I tried. The Allhtml5 Add-on for firefox.. sadly it turned out to be buggy and does not work right... I cannot remove flash from my pc cuz I need it for other websites :/
[11:34] <stintel> how can I install the Xorg QXL video driver on 14.04? getting this error: http://pastebin.com/qbEkir2A
[11:34] <Abe> if my ff would just save that st* setting
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Abe: chromium to the rescue!
[11:35] <Abe> lotuspsychje: sorry I cannot let Firefox down ^^
[11:35] <Siilwyn> Abe, what about this one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-block/?src=api
[11:36] <dev-asem> hi
[11:36] <yrj> abe: what is your question
[11:36] <yrj> abe: i missed it
[11:36] <Siilwyn> yrj, he wants to have flash installed, use FF without a YT account but play YT videos in HTML5.
[11:36] <TJ-> Does anyone have a Microdia USB 0c45:6270 camera I can compare with for diagnostics ?
[11:36] <Abe> Siilwyn: whats with the webites where I need flash? I just don't wanna use it, where I don't have to
[11:37] <yrj> Siilwyn: ok
[11:38] <Abe> is chromium not from google?
[11:38] <Siilwyn> Abe, honestly I would remove flash. And then for the websites that need flash open them in chromium
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> Abe: chromium is the linux version of chrome
[11:39] <Siilwyn> kind of
[11:39] <Siilwyn> Chromium is the base for Google Chrome
[11:39] <Abe> chromeium is from google sorry i pass
[11:39] <Siilwyn> afaik
[11:39] <Siilwyn> Abe, not really. It's just an open source implementation of webkit
[11:40] <likang> hello .
[11:41] <likang> english ??
[11:41] <Abe> I just need my browser to save that setting i'll figure out how... sorry firefox was there first
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | likang
[11:42] <yrj> abe: i agree with siilwyn, i would also remove flash
[11:43] <Abe> yrj: I hate flash as much as everybody, but what's with the websites that require flash? I wish they would all kill it but most websites continue using it
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> Abe: adobe flash for linux is pretty much dead, accept it mate
[11:44] <yrj> yes , that true.... some websites do not run without flash! too adamant
[11:48] <Abe> I know but i still need it
[11:50] <wrksx_> How do you restart mysqld in ubuntu? service?
[11:51] <yrj> try the service option
[11:52] <wrksx_> yrj, that's it thanks
[11:53] <wrksx_> doesn't autocomplete the commands though
[11:53] <yrj> wrksx: yw
[11:53] <yrj> service service_name start or status
[11:53] <yrj> should solve it
[11:57] <wakeatnight> hello. My WiFi isn't working after sleep... The module is iwlwifi. It was all fine 2 days ago.
[12:00] <Abe> if I use this html5 add-on in FF my fullscreen is not working right :/ http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=62811859
[12:01] <auronandace> Abe: you better inform the one who made the addon
[12:03] <Abe> auronandace: I would but I don't know if it just happens to me... the feedback seems very positive.
[12:03] <yrj> auronandace: cool down
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> yrj: dont tell volunteers what to do
[12:04] <yrj> lotuspsychje: i thought he is getting annoyed so i said'
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> yrj: what auronandace is correct, not an official ubuntu packages
[12:05] <Abe> thats the add-on I tried, whoever uses firefox, can you try this and give me a response if the fullscreen is working right with that add-on? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> Abe: try the ##firefox channel for addons and such
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> Abe: you have been suggested many things as ubuntu solution already
[12:06] <Abe> oh there is a fiefox channel i didn't know...
[12:07]  * yrj slaps lotuspsychje around a bit with a large fishbot
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> wakeatnight: updated system recently?
[12:08] <wakeatnight> lotuspsychje: regular updates I suppose
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> wakeatnight: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:09] <wakeatnight> did a Kernel update right now
[12:09] <wakeatnight> Gnome 15.10
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> !info image-linux-generic
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> wakeatnight: maybe try to load previous kernel, to check if your issue is kernel related?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:23] <Abe> ok i'll try chromium, are there any privacy concerns I should have?
[12:26] <Abe> Nope just read their sending everything to google :/
[12:33] <neurre> hi
[12:33] <neurre> which package should i install to get glxinfo?
[12:33] <stangeland> Hi, i am running ubuntu and sometimes the x server completely crashes. this is the content of .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072979/  What is going wrong?
[12:34] <Mathisen> neurre, mesa-utils
[12:34] <neurre> well i thought so too
[12:34] <neurre> i just installed 15.10
[12:35] <neurre> but sudo apt-get install mesa-utils says no installation candidate
[12:35] <neurre> oh
[12:35] <neurre> network connection issue
[12:35] <neurre> lol
[12:36] <cfoch> hello
[12:36] <cfoch> good morning
[12:37] <neurre> good afternoon
[12:37] <cfoch> is there a dark theme you recommend me for Ubuntu 15.04?
[12:37] <cfoch> :)
[12:50] <VictorSierra> Hello. Apologies if this is explained elsewhere but I haven't found it to date. If Ubuntu's precise package for openssl is version 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.32, how do I relate this to see if this is openssl 1.0.1c, 1.0.1d, 1.0.1e etc? I'm aware vulnerabilities are patched but what about functionality?
[12:52] <stangeland> Hi, i am running ubuntu and sometimes the x server completely crashes. this is the content of .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072979/  What is going wrong?
[12:55] <OerHeks> VictorSierra, check http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2830-1/ and your version number
[12:56] <OerHeks> normally with updates you are patched
[12:56] <meiskam> hello
[12:56] <sruli1> how do i make a pathping and a traceroute test in ubuntu?
[12:57] <OerHeks> VictorSierra, in dept i cannot explain what the versionnumbering would be :-
[12:58] <meiskam> so, i've made quite a mistake, and was hoping someone knows what next to do ... i've somehow removed the libc package, and then everything (rightfully so) stopped working
[12:58] <meiskam> i then booted to a live recovery and manually extracted the libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb package onto my filesystem
[12:58] <VictorSierra> Thanks OerHeks. Yeah I'm unable to say 'this Centos box has 1.0.1q and that ubuntu box has 1.0.1p' since there appears no correlation
[12:58] <meiskam> now it boots and all's fine, but dpkg doesn't know libc is installed and gives: A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory:
[12:58] <meiskam>  '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.15.so'
[12:59] <OerHeks> VictorSierra, maybe this answer is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/648071/why-dont-ubuntu-package-version-numbers-match-version-numbers-in-the-rest-of-th
[12:59] <stangeland> Hi, i am running ubuntu and sometimes the x server completely crashes. this is the content of .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14072979/  What is going wrong?
[13:00] <meiskam> how can i properly install/upgrade libc now?
[13:01] <kristhian> how could i install a4tech camera in ubuntu?
[13:06] <everton_> Bom dia!
[13:06] <VictorSierra> Thanks OerHeks - that makes more sense and suggests that 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.32 is the vanilla 1.0.1
[13:09] <VictorSierra> One more question please. I've upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04.5 LTS which is supported until 2017. If I run a do-release-upgrade again I can update to 14.04.03 LTS but that is only supported for 8 months. Upgrading to 14.04.01 LTS will extend support to 2019.
[13:09] <VictorSierra> Is there a way run a do-release-upgrade to move to 14.04.01 LTS please?
[13:13] <DJones> VictorSierra: 14.04 is supported until 2019
[13:13] <OerHeks> VictorSierra, no, 14.04.3 will go over in 14.04.4 and then 14.04.5 .. and will be supported untill 2019.
[13:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[13:16] <Abe> VictorSierra: are not all 14.04 realeases supported til 2019?
[13:16] <sruli> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it seems not
[13:17] <Abe> Nope I see it just 2016
[13:17] <VictorSierra> unless it means the hardware extended support kernels
[13:17] <sruli> can someone clarify this? the wiki clearly states only 14.04.1 is until 2019
[13:18] <meiskam> can someone help? libc6 is half-installed http://pastebin.com/C0Ax2Hcp .. http://pastebin.com/nep9Kfbd
[13:18] <DJones> Thats probably just when the point release gets upgraded to the next point release, so effectively 14.04.4 will replace 14.04.3, 14.04.5 replaces 14.04.4 and its the final point release has the 2019 end of life date
[13:19] <Abe> funny the utopic unicorn is already end of life o_O good that I just install the lts releases
[13:19] <DJones> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[13:20] <DJones> if you installed 14.04.1 and then updated for bug/security fixes etc, you'd end up on 14.04.3 at the moment and would be continually upgraded to .4 then .5 in time
[13:22] <Abe> VictorSierra: I just checked I use the version Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS but it states that it is an lts version so...
[13:24] <VictorSierra> cheers all.
[13:24]  * VictorSierra kicks off another do-release-upgrade
[13:25] <Abe> VictorSierra: good luck
[13:28] <Freakshow> hi
[13:28] <stangeland> if i do mount /dev/sde1 /media/mydrive it mounts the drive nicely, but it knocks off all the other mounted drives. What am I missing?
[13:29] <sruli> stangeland: where are you other drives mounted?
[13:29] <OerHeks> stangeland, are those other drives mounted at the same mountpoint /media/mydrive/  ?
[13:29] <stangeland> no its different mount points
[13:30] <OerHeks> stangeland, can you post the output of "mount"  on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[13:33] <mcphail> stangeland: the /media root is generally used for automatically mounted drives, By tradition, manually mounted drives tend to go under /mnt. Perhaps there is some automagic in Unity or dbus which gets confused if you manually mount to /media?
[13:41] <_hole> hello i am trying to run  "xfwm4 --replace" at each login because my window title bar erases itsself occasionally and doesn't come back until i run it how do i do this heres the pastbin of my rc.local file http://pastebin.com/ejKhtDsx
[13:44] <gwyra> bom dia
[13:44] <_hole> hello i am trying to run  "xfwm4 --replace" at each login because my window title bar erases itsself occasionally and doesn't come back until i run it how do i do this heres the pastbin of my rc.local file http://pastebin.com/ejKhtDsx
[13:45] <ntz> hello
[13:45] <_hole> hi
[13:45] <_hole> hello i am trying to run  "xfwm4 --replace" at each login because my window title bar erases itsself occasionally and doesn't come back until i run it how do i do this heres the pastbin of my rc.local file http://pastebin.com/ejKhtDsx
[13:46] <ntz> I have to re-install ubuntu for one my friend ... can anybody show me what kernel version is in 15.x ? I have actually 3.13.0-61-generic (from 14.04LTS) but it's not enough
[13:47] <_hole> whats hard about installing ubuntu?
[13:47] <sruli> TJ-: the bug you found in PAM close_session have you reported the bug or should i?
[13:48] <genii> !info linux-image-generic wily
[13:48] <genii> ntz: As the bot indicates, 4.2.0.21.23
[13:49] <ntz> thanks
[13:50] <_hole> hello i am trying to run  "xfwm4 --replace" at each login because my window title bar erases itsself occasionally and doesn't come back until i run it how do i do this heres the pastbin of my rc.local file http://pastebin.com/ejKhtDsx
[13:51] <Abe> _hole: I would post your issue on an ubuntu forum with screens and everything, cuz Idk how or why this happens to you.
[13:52] <genii> _hole: The problem is rc.local gets executed before X so that way won't work
[13:52] <Abe> I assume you're running xubuntu then
[13:53] <_hole> my wifes pc doesn't do it i am thinking its an ubuntu studio issue not an ubuntu isue
[13:53] <_hole> i use studio
[14:03] <TJ-> sruli: It's still not confirmed as a bug as yet
[14:03] <sruli> TJ-: oh, i misunderstood you then, how do we confirm it as a bug?
[14:04] <yao_ziyuan> how do i unlock all tracks in supertuxkart? players.xml is binary...
[14:05] <OerHeks> yao_ziyuan, by racing and winning.
[14:06] <sruli> yao_ziyuan:  .config/supertuxkart/challenges.xml change all solved=false to true
[14:07] <yao_ziyuan> sruli: that's for older versions of stk. but the problem is solved now.
[14:08] <yao_ziyuan> the trick is players.xml is in utf32.
[14:12] <xt1> how do i list all running programs to stop a program
[14:13] <VictorSierra> loislane: ps aux
[14:13] <OerHeks> please change your name more often, luislane
[14:14] <luislane> how to kill pid
[14:14] <luislane> hahahahahahaha
[14:14] <OerHeks> man kill
[14:14] <luislane> O.O
[14:16] <genii> luislane: Get the PID of the offending process from the output of ps  then issue (sudo) kill <thatPIDnumber>
[14:16] <luislane> cool got it
[14:25] <zetheroo> so a user is installing a self-compiled version of vim which installs itself into /opt/. After doing an update on the system the vim directory in /opt/ disappears. Any ideas why?
[14:29] <VictorSierra> Abe: update bricked the server :/ Looks like a grub issue
[14:30] <genii> zetheroo: Self-compiled binaries should go in /usr/local hierarchy, packages which are provided by 3rd party should go in /opt
[14:30] <TJ-> sruli: I'm waiting for feedback on whether what we observe (no close_session) is expected in this particular configuration, and if so, whether we need some additional config to ensure it happens.
[14:30] <zetheroo> genii: ok good to know - thanks. Would you know why the directory disappears though?
[14:30] <sruli> ok, please let me know once you have this feedback
[14:31] <genii> zetheroo: No, that is quite a mystery
[14:31] <zetheroo> genii: vim was one of the things updated ...
[14:34] <TJ-> sruli: will do
[14:34] <sruli> TJ-: thanks
[14:35] <genii> zetheroo: Even so, if the regular vim package was updated, it should overwrite the places where the system vim is, not anything in /opt unless somehow there was maybe updated the /etc/alternatives to point there instead or a similar issue
[14:35] <sruli> TJ-: i'm not always here, will you be able to email me the feedback?
[14:37] <TJ-> sruli: I'll leave you a message via nickserv
[14:38] <sruli> thanks
[14:40] <ntz> okay, I'm going to ask, can't find a answer for myself
[14:40] <ntz> I facing to cruel and unusual punishment - I have to fix someone's else ubuntu
[14:41] <ntz> he has here ``Linux ufarnych-HTPC 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:21:34 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux'' and he has freezing desktop (i915 crash)
[14:41] <ntz> is it possible to install to 14.04.02LTS some higher kernel than 3.13 ?
[14:41] <ntz> but that it's supported and that it takes updates from repos
[14:42] <jochan> I'm haivng a slight problem connecting to the internet. Can someone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14073870/
[14:42] <sruli> ntz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:42] <ntz> sruli: thanks, that seems like what I was looking for
[14:43] <stangeland> suddently my screen just goes black and prints this text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14073881/  what is happening?
[14:44] <jochan> Anyone?
[14:45] <sruli> stangeland: what rphics card do you have and which driver are you using?
[14:48] <vuurdraak> hi all, i'm unable to calibrate my CRT monitor, the colour tab in settings syas "The measuring instrument is not detected. Please check it is turned on and correctly connected" when hoovering over calibrate, what does this mean ?
[14:48] <stangeland> sruli, its an nvidia card
[14:48] <stangeland> sruli, its just using default driver
[14:49] <sruli> stangeland: which driver are you using? check at System-Settings > Software & Update > Additional Drivers tab
[14:50] <Guest34652> Olá, bom dia!
[14:50] <Guest34652> Qual a versão mais estavel do ubuntu ?
[14:50] <Iresf> hih everyone
[14:50] <Iresf> is there any free proxy like tor for whole traffic for ubuntu ????
[14:51] <xangua> Guest34652: LTS releases normally are
[14:51] <xangua> !pt | Guest34652 also please english or try
[14:51] <Guest34652> tks
[14:52] <Iresf> is there any free proxy like tor for whole traffic for ubuntu ????
[14:52] <devont> ?
[14:52] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I have an issue. I have a Ubuntu box that the clock is not synced to NIST.
[14:52] <sruli> Iresf: there are free vpns, search google
[14:53] <zetheroo> does apt do anything at all to /opt/ ?
[14:53] <OneM_Industries> It is consistently drifting to about 5 minutes off.
[14:54] <pbx> OneM_Industries, Time & Date settings are set to sync though?
[14:54] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[14:54] <genii> OneM_Industries: http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi indicates some servers there are having issues
[14:54] <pbx> dunno then
[14:55] <OneM_Industries> It is not just a one time issue.
[14:55] <OneM_Industries> It has been like this for a few weeks.
[14:55] <genii> OneM_Industries: Perhaps choose one from the list at that URL which is marked as "All services available"
[14:56] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[14:56] <OneM_Industries> Actually, how do I change that?
[14:57] <genii> OneM_Industries: /etc/ntp.conf
[14:59] <vuurdraak> i'm unable to calibrate my CRT monitor, the colour tab in settings syas "The measuring instrument is not detected. Please check it is turned on and correctly connected" when hovering over calibrate, what does this mean, is ubuntu not detecting that the CRT is on while it detected it as a display , or do i need to install some additional software that i'm unaware off ?
[15:04] <stangeland> sruli, can i somehow check it in terminal because my UI is gone
[15:09] <sruli> stangeland: try lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3
[15:11] <ripmind> Hello. I am using Kodibuntu. I installed x11vnc and since then i cant start kodi anymore. I get the login mask and when i enter my password it just goes black and starts the login maks again. It works as root user tho.
[15:12] <stangeland> sruli, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14074123/
[15:13] <ripmind> I also cannot login in the lubuntu desktop. The same happens: black screen, back into login mask
[15:13] <MWM> I recently installed "record my desktop" and have been experiencing odd crashes since then.  Any way to narrow down the culprit.  Im not even sure which logs would hold what I need to look at
[15:13] <MWM> Ive tried /var/log/syslog and kern.log but didnt see anything relevent.
[15:15] <myztic> how to create a launcher in ubuntu 15.10? this is harder then it should, all I need is a simple launcher for an executable file I use regularly
[15:15] <MWM> Im using Lubuntu 15.10 also , but Im hoping to extrapolate
[15:16] <nicomachus> myztic: put it on the desktop and then make it executable
[15:16] <ripmind> Ok my problem was simply rhe .Xauthority
[15:16] <nicomachus> myztic: or, if not on the desktop, whereever you want to launch it from.
[15:17] <vuurdraak> :( i guess i will need to calibrate my crt in windows and save the icc profile and bring it to ubuntu, as nobody seems to know whats going on, anyway thanks for ur time everybody im off o/
[15:18] <myztic> nicomachus: I can't add it to the menu bar on the left side (I use unity)
[15:18] <stangeland> sruli, any idea?
[15:18] <sruli> stangeland: trying to find a command which will give more info
[15:18] <stangeland> sruli, ahhh ok
[15:19] <sruli> stangeland: i give up, can u reboot and get into gui and check which driver and which others are available?
[15:20] <nicomachus> myztic: ah I see. ok, here's some instructions for that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[15:20] <MWM> where is the "crash log" so I can see why Im crashing?  I had 12 hours uptime and then the machine had crashed when I came back.
[15:21] <nicomachus> myztic: you basically have to create a custom .desktop file for it.
[15:21] <sruli> nicomachus: i guess its good morning to you, how did it go with chalcedony/chull did they manage to get unity working?
[15:22] <nicomachus> sruli: funny story about that. had the wrong DE selected the whole time. Unity was never broken.
[15:22] <sruli> nicomachus: what is DE?
[15:22] <nicomachus> desktop environment
[15:22] <sruli> lol
[15:22] <nicomachus> yea... so, long story short, it's fixed.
[15:23] <sruli> great
[15:23] <sruli> how did they have wrong DE running? how do u do that?
[15:24] <nicomachus> that's a bit off-topic.. but you select it from the login screen when you log in, and they had it set to the wrong one the whole time. easy mistake. I've done worse.
[15:24] <sruli> nicomachus: but if you select wrong one you dont get unity menu, they did have unity menu
[15:25] <MWM> is there an alternative for lm-sensors ?  apt-get says that it is "referred to by another package" and "has no installation candidate"
[15:25] <sruli> nevermind, great that you were able to see them through
[15:27] <nicomachus> MWM: what version of ubuntu?
[15:29] <MWM> nichomachus : Lubuntu 15.10
[15:30] <nicomachus> MWM: You'll need to enable the "Universe" packages in your sources list. You can either do it through the GUI or go to /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines that say "universe" at the end, then run apt-get update and install the package.
[15:31] <MWM> thank you sir
[15:33] <nicomachus> np MWM. after installing lm-sensors you'll have to run 'sudo sensors-detect' as well
[15:33] <gif> join #piksel
[15:33] <nabil> ping
[15:33] <MWM> it doesnt appear that anything with universe at the end is commented.  still double checking though
[15:35] <MWM> the only repos that are commented out are canonical: Im going to try an install again to see if I was mistaken
[15:35] <nicomachus> MWM: they don't have a # in front of them?
[15:36] <MWM> nicomachus: correct.  I tried apt-get install and it worked however.  I dont know why but it hit this time
[15:38] <TJ-> stangeland: For CLI listing of installed proprietary drivers use: " ubuntu-drivers debug | awk '$2 ~ /installed:/ && $3 !~ /<none>/{print}'  "
[15:39] <sruli> TJ-: i get no output for that command
[15:42] <sruli> TJ-: maybe its my system which is problem, on sudo lshw i get PCI(sysfs) and hangs after that (same on sudo lshw -c video)
[15:43] <stangeland> TJ-, returns nothing
[15:45] <TJ-> stangeland: it sounds like something has got hung up
[15:50] <marus> any one can tell me why wbinfo -u woks and getent passwd not?
[15:59] <snegamuhil> hi
[15:59] <TJ-> stangeland: you can do a manual search using "for D in /sys/bus/pci/devices/*/; do echo $(cat $D/vendor $D/device; readlink -e $D/driver); done "
[16:00] <stangeland> TJ-, thanks
[16:04] <snegamuhil> Hi All
[16:04] <snegamuhil> I have a few clarification on device driver
[16:04] <snegamuhil> I created device /dev/foo and I would like to define my own file_operation structure
[16:05] <snegamuhil> Is it possible to define our own functions?
[16:05] <karstensrage> hi i have noticed that sometimes /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf sometimes has /usr/lib in it and sometimes has /usr/local/lib in it
[16:06] <karstensrage> what is responsible for putting that file there, and if i definitely want /usr/local/lib somewhere, what is the standard way to put it there
[16:08] <TJ-> karstensrage: see "man 8 ldconfig"
[16:09] <TJ-> snegamuhil: that's a question for ##kernel rather than Ubuntu support
[16:10] <karstensrage> TJ-, that doesnt really address it
[16:10] <karstensrage> i mean if i dont find anything referring to /usr/local/lib should I put a local.conf in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
[16:11] <karstensrage> and on one 14.04 i have /usr/local/lib in libc.conf
[16:11] <karstensrage> and on one its /usr/lib
[16:19] <Guest67331> hello,there is a surveillance system for linux,called motion.I would stop motion detection,when arrive home,any idea?
[16:27] <iu8z> hello everyone, I've just copied data on an external drive. during the transfer the gksudo file manager window froze, and it didnt open again even though I tried it in the terminal. yet the transfer didnt stop and was completed to the end. but now I cannot remove the respective partition of the external drive, with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14074932/ it was shown in gnome disk utility
[16:28] <iu8z> last time I got this kind of error I'd lost the partition. so I'd like to make sure if it is not a risky situation now
[16:30] <sruli> iu8z: gnome-disk-utility is buggy, to dismount u'll have to terminae all proccess using it "sudo fuser -m /media/negu/zlw -k"
[16:31] <iu8z> sruli, are you sure that it is just the bug of gnome disk utility, and that points at no problem with the partition or its file system?
[16:32] <sruli> iu8z: gnome-disk-utility is buggy regardless, your current problem is that gksu froze and might still be using the mount,
[16:32] <sruli> iu8z: so to terminate all proccess using the mount u need to run the command above
[16:34] <iu8z> sruli, ah, I see. yes, I just terminated it, and could remove the drive. gksu had frozen, then normal file manager window crashed, too, both during file copy process. therefore all these made me wary, also because of earlier data loss, after a similar error-quark etc. message..
[16:35] <sruli> iu8z: i get quark errors 90% of the times that i used gnome-disk-utility, stopped using it, i did however test it on a 15.10 and it seemed much better
[16:35] <iu8z> sruli, oh, good to know that, thank you, it's relieving. also gksudo opens again now
[16:36] <sruli> iu8z: the error u had now has nothing to do with gnome-disk-utility! there were still some proccess attached to it and u had to terminate them to unmount
[16:36] <iu8z> sruli, ah, I see, so it was gksu having frozen, then
[16:36] <sruli> possibly
[16:37] <iu8z> will just reconnect the drive, hope all is fine
[16:39] <TJ-> karstensrage: it depends on what calls ldconfig. If you have /usr/local/lib in there, it suggests you've installed some software manually and part of its 'make install' has called "ldconfig /usr/local/lib"
[16:41] <karstensrage> TJ-, im confused, ldconfig just READS the stuff in /etc/ld.so.conf and its included /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[16:41] <karstensrage> im asking what puts stuff in there and what should be put in there so ldconfig looks for libs in /usr/local/lib
[16:46] <TJ-> karstensrage: ahh, sorry, I misunderstood. libc-bin package carries the primary config, and the other are installed by individual packages. "apt-file search /etc/ld.so.conf.d/" will show all the packages that add configs
[16:46] <iu8z> sruli, thank you for your help!
[16:46] <iu8z> ciao!
[16:46] <remyroy> How do I install Ubuntu Server 15.10 without an internet connection? I get stuck at choosing a mirror to download packages from but I have a USB drive with the ISO packages on it.
[16:49] <neelabh> aciim: hi
[16:50] <neelabh> [12/17/2015, 22:10] +91 97380 88712: My laptop is not starting, It is giving message on black screen like unable to find a medium containing a live file system ubuntu 14.04any one is aware to this, how I will do fix it....
[16:50] <neelabh> addo: Hi
[16:51] <neelabh> sruli: hi
[16:52] <nicomachus> neelabh: sounds like you don't have an operating system installed.
[16:54] <prsteele> question about environment variables. I have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, e.g. echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH says what I want it to say. When I "./foo", it complains about a missing .so file. If I "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./foo", it works. Any idea why this happens?
[16:54] <neelabh> nicomachus:  No previouly there was ubunto14.04, but i make sleep it, when I restart it is giving me this problem..
[16:57] <nicomachus> neelabh: is there any change your hard drive is bad? and are you sure that the bios is set to boot from the hard drive?
[16:57] <Gallomimia> can anyone tell me what these errors in grub mean? they showed after running autoremove on some kernels. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14075350/
[16:59] <PhonicUK> Gallomimia, it means the symbolic link to the kernel and initrd are invalid
[16:59] <k1l> Gallomimia: make sure "linux-generic" is installed and re run "sudo update-grub"
[16:59] <TJ-> prsteele: you need to "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[16:59] <nicomachus> k1l: looks like a harmless error, no?
 How I will see that..
[16:59] <nicomachus> https://askubuntu.com/questions/518997/how-do-i-re-run-boot-loader
[17:00] <k1l> we dont know what he actually did remove. but yes, in best case he just removed all but one kernel so the old-kernel link is broken so he doesnt have a recovery now.
[17:00] <nicomachus> neelabh: restart your computer and press F2 or whatever your key is to load up the BIOS, and make sure it is set to boot from the hard drive.
[17:01] <neelabh> k..
[17:01] <orangepi> hello, can it possible install driver WIFI dongle for Orange Pi Ralink RT251W for Ubuntu ?
[17:01] <prsteele> TJ-: that is embarrassing, thanks
[17:01] <Gallomimia> k1l PhonicUK can either of you give me knowledge on how to make a initrd and grub config manually? something's messed on mine and i'm stuck with booting from a flash drive
 Gallomimia: make sure "linux-generic" is installed and re run "sudo update-grub"
 How It is possible to change the boot order, without touching it, I never touched it..
[17:08] <nicomachus> neelabh: it's usually not, but the next most likely solution is a bad hard drive... so you might wanna check the boot order and hope that's it.
[17:10] <nicomachus> neelabh: if the boot order is correct, then grab a live USB and we can do a SMART check on your hard drive.
, Right now I was running SysteTest, There is no defect found, now  I will check the boot order
[17:12] <kknight> how do i make my linux speak when i on it?
, I have data, I don't want to delete from my laptop,
[17:13] <Gallomimia> laptops need backups!
[17:13] <OerHeks> !info orca
[17:13] <nicomachus> neelabh: don't worry, no need to delete anything yet.
[17:14] <remyroy> Most of the USB linux image installer on Windows improperly install the ISO on the USB disk making it almost impossible to install if you do not have internet access or if your internet access is unreliable.
[17:14] <g105b_> oh crap I just killed my ubuntu. due to /boot being full, I followed this guide: http://askubuntu.com/a/345611 - now it won't boot.
[17:14] <OerHeks> kknight, see orca > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[17:15] <MasterPhi> Hi, I'm having issues with Xorg consuming all the CPU power. Anyone knows how to deal with this?
[17:16] <g105b_> How should I get my linux kernels back so I can boot? I'm using a live USB stick on the computer right now...
[17:16] <k1l> MasterPhi: what ubuntu exactly? what hardware?
[17:16] <nicomachus> g105b_: oh no! don't worry, easy fix.
 It have entered into Boot, It is showing 1. Fast Boot=> Enabled, 2. File Browser Add Booy Option(no selected), 3. File Browser Del  Boot Option (not selected)  4. Load legacy Option Rom (no selected), 5. Boot Options Priorites
[17:17] <nicomachus> g105b_: this guide will walk you through it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[17:17] <g105b_> nicomachus: ah that looks just the ticket. I didn't know what to search for but I will do that and report back. Thanks!
[17:18] <MasterPhi> k1l: Ubuntu Gnome 15 on an HP EliteDesk (i7 with integrated video)
[17:18] <k1l> g105b_: chroot into the installes ubuntu, install "linux-generic" rerun udpate-grub. then reboot
[17:18] <eduardo__> i need ideas about ssh connection refused on port 22.
[17:19] <nicomachus> neelabh: I believe option 5 will allow you to pick your boot object.
[17:19] <eduardo__> ive a ubuntuclient and ubuntuserver on virtualbox private network
 5. Boot Options Priorites
[17:19] <neelabh> ?
[17:19] <eduardo__> i can ping from client to server....
[17:19] <nicomachus> yes neelabh
[17:20] <k1l> eduardo__: dont login as root. that is blocked
[17:20] <g105b_> k1l, nicomachus: currently working out how to mount my encrypted hard drive
[17:20] <eduardo__> but if i execute ssh userServer@ip_server i get that error
[17:20] <nicomachus> eduardo__: sounds like that server doesn't have port 22 open.
[17:21] <k1l> g105b_: ah yeah, encryption is a whole different difficulty to recover. adds a new layer of work to do
[17:21] <eduardo__> nicomachus i think it does as sshd_config is set to port 22
 :it has two options 1. Boot Option #1  =>  [Onboard NIC (IPV4)]  2. . Boot Option #2  =>  [Onboard NIC (IPV6)], which option should I select..?
[17:21] <k1l> eduardo__: is the ssh server configured to run on port 22?
[17:21] <eduardo__> k1l yes
[17:21] <k1l> are you sure you ping the server and not the host?
[17:22] <nicomachus> neelabh: that's the wrong option then. you want to find the menu that allows you to select between USB, CD, Hard Drive, etc.
[17:22] <eduardo__> k1l yes
[17:22] <nicomachus> eduardo__: do you own the server?
[17:22] <neelabh> k
[17:22] <eduardo__> in my laptop ive the system using virtualbox: one ubuntu server and one ubuntuclient in the same private network....
[17:23] <eduardo__> nicomachus is my own computer... is virtualised
[17:24] <eduardo__> perhaps i make a mistake using two network adapters in server, one to go through nat to internet and other in private nework... ive configurted /etc/network/interfaces in both sides...
[17:25] <eduardo__> one more thing if i add an windows 7 client using putty it works ( in the same private network virtualised)....
, I am not getting any boot from hard-disk, If I installed newly ubunto then will it will erage all me data....?
[17:27] <DirtyCajun> ok. bash script questions. I have made a bash script that unrars any rars in /somedirectory and its subdirectories. how do i tell it to delete the parent folder of a completed unrar?
[17:27] <nicomachus> neelabh: yes it would erase your data. Grab a live cd/usb and boot into a live version, and let's see if you can access the hard drive.
[17:28] <goppo> hi
[17:28] <goppo> i'm having problem setting up an NFS server. i'm trying to setup the export in /etc/exports, but each line seems to be in this format
[17:28] <goppo> directory_to_share       client(share_option1,...,share_optionN)
[17:28] <goppo> could 'client' be a wildcard?
[17:28] <g105b_> k1l: I've mounted the encrypted volume, then `chroot /path/to/mount`, I can't currently use apt-get to install linux-generic because I'm getting 404s on all sources.
 What is meaning of boot into a live version
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> DirtyCajun: there's also #bash , and probably depends on how you're recursing through the directories.  unrar doesn't seem to have a -delete option.
[17:30] <DirtyCajun> ooh! thank you shrodingerscat. i promise not to look in the box
[17:31] <nicomachus> neelabh: do you still have the USB or CD that you used to install Ubuntu?
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> DirtyCajun: if the extracted files match the name of the directories, either matching or close enough through some regex, then you could possibly use those files as a list of directories to rm and then loop through them.
 No, My system already comes with installed version of ubuntu 14.04..
[17:32] <nicomachus> neelabh: ok, you'll need to create a live USB then.
[17:32] <DirtyCajun> they do . the difference being the extension at the end. atleast most of the time.
[17:32] <nicomachus> !liveusb | neelabh
[17:32] <kknight> i want to put afile in my startup folder how to get startup folder
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> DirtyCajun: if you only have directories with these rar files, then you could try something like for i in * ; do cd "$i" ; unrar something ; cd .. ; rm "$i" ; done  but be extremely careful when deleting, may even want to look into trash-cli
 What is like USB, and when I access my system, will it errage data, ?
[17:34] <ioria> kknight, Startup Application ,  go in dash, type Startup , Add and put there your script
[17:35] <nicomachus> neelabh: as long as you select "Try Ubuntu" and NOT "Install" it will not erase any data.
[17:35] <neelabh> k.....
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> DirtyCajun: for example, pitfalls of what I wrote are if you had something that wasn't a directory in the root folder, it would likely later be in error when it cd .., and that rm won't work for directories in it's current. state.  but I see you're in #bash and they know a lot more than me.
[17:38] <kknight> ioria: dash means terminal?
[17:38] <ioria> kknight, no, are you on Unity ?
[17:39] <kknight> gnome
[17:40] <ioria> kknight, idr on gnome... try alt+F2 and type gnome-session-properties
[17:41] <ioria> kknight, it works on Unity too....
[17:41] <kknight> after that
[17:41] <kknight> ADD OPTION to add my script file
[17:42] <ioria> kknight, Add, then depends on what you wanna start ...
[17:42] <safe_> How do I root into another ubuntu partition? I don't even know the correct word for it?
[17:42] <DirtyCajun> shrodinger i think im going to try to do it in python. its a little bit easier since i can just find the file.rar and trim the .rar and then delete the folder recursively
[17:42] <kknight> ioria: thanks
[17:42] <kknight> one more thing
[17:42] <ioria> kknight, you're welcome
[17:43] <kknight> alt +f2 is equal to pressing window button
[17:43] <ioria> kknight, not exactly
[17:43] <kknight> then?
[17:44] <ioria> kknight, Alt - F2 - Invoke the Dash in a "special mode
[17:44] <ioria> kknight, http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[17:47] <ysausade> testf: what
[17:48] <testf> my dad's browser got hijacked.
[17:48] <testf> so, I did a purge (apt-get purge firefox). Re installed. Same problem
[17:49] <ysausade> testf: it's usually a folder you can delete..
[17:49] <testf> removed .cache/mozilla and .mozilla all, (rm -rf). Still no luck
[17:49] <ysausade> testf: in the home folder
[17:49] <testf> I created a user testf and ran firefox there. Same issue
[17:50] <testf> the issue is some sort of flash thing starts up, then pops up a window which redirects to add
[17:50] <Macsurf> hello, there is ralink-firmware for orangepi ? I cant install driver for rt2571w :(
 How I will make live file system on my pendrive..
[17:50] <ysausade> testf: I think there a terminal command to open firefox in private mode
[17:51] <testf> the origin of the problem is he had an ancient ubuntu (quantal).
[17:51] <nicomachus> neelabh: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[17:52] <ioria> testf, never happened to me but you can check (or reset) your router , create a new static connection with different dns .... and upgrade, please
[17:52] <ysausade> testf: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options
[17:52] <OerHeks> testf, turn off the machine, reset/reboot router and try again, maybe the dns hijack is not in your machine
[17:52] <testf> for the record, the redirect url is to hidcptqmerifcusymaqddcomolsujibeptsmycmqsrwgrcmywshgnfpjhcc.com
[17:52] <OerHeks> and check other machines in your network
[17:52] <testf> hmmm.
[17:53] <ysausade> Nobody click that from testf
[17:53] <rypervenche> testf: Are you doing this from home?
[17:53] <nicomachus> ^ goes without saying...
[17:53] <testf> yup, from home
[17:53] <ysausade> OerHeks: I wouldn't click testf link
[17:53] <snegamuhil> hi
[17:54] <ysausade> OerHeks: I may be trouble but something like his link might be malicious
[17:55] <testf> OerHeks, click it if you have an old browser you wanna hijack to prove the link is a Bad Thing.
[17:55] <OerHeks> ysausade, he warned that it got directed to that url, don't worry .
[17:55] <lindii_> guys any idea how to fix this.. sudo: error in /etc/sudo.conf, line 0 while loading plugin `sudoers_policy' sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be owned by uid 0
[17:55] <testf> (sorry, I should have put warning tags around it)
[17:56] <testf> how can I figure out where the issue is? Ah, ok, I could reboot the modem.
[17:56] <OerHeks> if you have more browsers installed,  clean them too
[17:57] <testf> well, if the machine has been infected I need to reinstall from scratch :-(
[17:57] <rypervenche> testf: You need to pinpoint the problem. Is it only your browser? Try another browser. Is it only that computer? Try another computer. Is it only your network? Try another network with one of the machines.
[17:57] <testf> lynx is the only one I trust :)
[17:57] <OerHeks> that could be an option, or run clamav
[17:58] <testf> well my dad had another computer that had it too.
[17:58] <ysausade> testf: on linux I doubt infection. Maybe a add-on. Try https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options
[17:58] <ioria> !info rkhunter
[17:58] <testf> hmm. If I don't get a redirect on a fresh site, then it will be a router infection/cache thing.
[17:58]  * testf tries out theory
[17:58] <ysausade> testf: try to find a way to start with add-ons disabled. Private mode don't do that.
[17:59] <testf> ysausade: thanks, trying...
[18:00] <testf> ysausade, indeed, private mode saves me that crap redirect
, I am able to find Boot option through Hard-disk,   1. Boot List Option [legacy], 2. Secure Boot [Disabled], 3. Load Legacy option Rom [enabled],  Set Priorty 1. Hard Drive, 2. Diskette Drive, 3. USB storage, 4. CD/DVD-RW Drive, 5. Network
[18:01] <ysausade> Try to open a tab or window not private from private mode
[18:01] <ysausade> Try tab first testf
[18:03] <neelabh>  <nicomachus>:  When I try  to restart then System, I says after some time  No Boot Device found, Press any key to rebbot the machine..
[18:03] <ysausade> The new internet explorer in windows had a hijack home page. It's fixed now. But involved restarting everything in safe mode. Then closing the browser testf
[18:04] <ysausade> Edge is the name of Windows browser now
[18:05] <ysausade> testf: try exiting browser and restarting after removing suspicious add-ons.
[18:06] <safe_> How can I take over another ubuntu partition as root? Alternatively, what is it called so I can google for it?
[18:08] <testf> ysausade, if I open up a new nonprivate window from private window via top right hand corner open menu, I get ad redirects
[18:09] <testf> so, I'll do the exit browser and removal of addons suggestion. What's the right way to remove addons? FFox ->righthand corner menu--->addons
[18:10] <testf> (that seems to be a way to *add* addons. Not sure how to remove them.
[18:10] <testf> )
[18:10] <Iresf> hi everyone
[18:10] <slidinghorn> Using a stripped down version of Ubuntu 15.10 and openbox. When adding a new wifi network with nm-connection-editor, my scans go from showing several available neteorks to none. Any odea why this might happen?
[18:12] <Iresf> i have installed kerio 64 bit on ubuntu 14.04 but it doesnt work please help me what version of kerio is valid ?
[18:15] <testf> ok, the two addons I seem to have are "Default" and "OpenH264 Video Codec Provided by..."    Is that normal?
[18:16] <testf> (trusty)
[18:16] <harushimo> vagrant  and ubuntu, is it better to get it from the source or apt-get repo?
[18:16] <slidinghorn> Weird....I post and they start showing. Not connecting to the new network, however. Tried to copy settings used for the "system connection" Ubuntu set up during install but no luck.
[18:17] <nicomachus> neelabh: yes you'll need to select to boot from USB now.
[18:19] <testf> ouch. removing the openh264 codec stopped the "flashlike" thing running, but popped up the new window (ad redirection window) right away
[18:19] <neelabh> nicomachus> :I am going to install ubuntu  14.04.in my pen-drive, what will be file formate..
[18:20] <goppo> can UID be 501 for an account?
[18:21] <genii> goppo: On Ubuntu, UIDs begin at 1000 and go upwards from there
[18:21] <goppo> oooh
[18:22] <goppo> i just used usermod -u 501 user and the account just disappeared
[18:22] <nicomachus> neelabh: did you follow the instructions on the link I sent you? I've gotta step away for about an hour here in a minute...
[18:24] <rypervenche> goppo: If you are using a Display manager, by default only accounts =>1000 will show up.
[18:24] <rypervenche> >=1000 rather
[18:24] <goppo> hmm
[18:25] <rypervenche> goppo: You can fix it on the command line if you want to.
[18:25] <goppo> rypervenche: yeah it's back after setting it back to 1000
[18:25] <testf> ah, I also see Ubuntu modifications 3.2 for firefox, with a Friday 18th September timestamp. Disabling and restarting firefox makes no difference. And the flashy video thing is back again. How sucky
[18:26]  * testf tries modem/router reboot
[18:26] <genii> goppo: Additional notes: If the user was the one logged in and using a desktop, it's UID will no longer match the ownerships of it's home directory and you may not be any longer to log it in without being booted back to login due to no write priveleges in there
[18:27] <goppo> i've managed to get it back now. phew..
[18:37] <MWM> I dint find a channel for squid proxy : Does anyone know of one?
[18:37] <Pici> MWM: like #squid ?
[18:38] <MWM> maybe  the search function on the freenode homepage didnt even show #ubuntu :)
[18:38] <MWM> thanks BTW
[18:38] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | MWM
[18:39] <Pici> MWM: there is no channel server on freenode's website.
[18:39] <Pici> er, search.
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> the plot thickens
[18:40] <slidinghorn> Can't connect to any WPA network other than the one Ubuntu set up during install. Added via nm-connection-editor. Also attempted creating a manual entry under /etc/system-connections but no luck there either. This is essentially a 15.10 minimal with X, xdm & openbox.
[18:41] <ioria> slidinghorn, cat /etc/network/interface
[18:43] <genii> slidinghorn: Please use pastebin/pastebinit and not into the channel
[18:44] <stangeland> How do i set a specific interface to 1000mbps and full duplex and disable autoconfiguration ?
[18:44] <slidinghorn> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/14076823/
[18:45] <toast762> runing an executable in path even with ./ gives file or folder not found.
[18:45] <slidinghorn> (typing manually, as the machine cant connect....on my phone)
[18:45] <toast762> file executablename says it's i386 but I'm amd64 could this be the cause.
[18:45] <ioria> slidinghorn, so you're using nm ?
[18:46] <slidinghorn> yes
[18:46] <stangeland> How do i set a specific interface to 1000mbps and full duplex and disable autoconfiguration ? in fedora systems i would run system-config-network but thats not available in ubuntu
[18:47] <toast762> strangeland: look up ethool
[18:48] <toast762> ethtool
[18:48] <toast762> sorry missspelled.
[18:49] <ioria> slidinghorn, ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[18:50] <toast762> ./executable returns command not found.  file executable returns 32-bit LSB but I'm running AMD64.  could this be the cause?
[18:52] <slidinghorn> ioria: T2 Wifi & 2WIRE302  (the 2WIRE is the new one)
[18:54] <ioria> slidinghorn,  have you tried to connect via command line ?
[18:54] <toast762> ./executable returns command not found.  file executable returns 32-bit LSB but I'm running AMD64.  could this be the cause?
[18:55] <akik> toast762: how about "ldd ./executable" ?
[18:55] <toast762> ldd ./executable returns no such file or directory
[18:56] <akik> 32-bit binaries can be run on a 64-bit installation
[18:56] <alive876_> hi, i'm trying to install a program which apparently needs 'build-essential' package installed, i seearched on my system. i serached and just got this : Informational list of build-essential packages ,   should't it list  the indiviual packages, in otherwords, is this saying the are no build-install packages installed? thanks for any help!
[18:56] <akik> just need to install the needed libraries
[18:57] <toast762> akik are you saying I need some package to run 32bit on 64bit system?
[18:57] <toast762> what package?  OS is Ubuntu 14 server 64bit.
[18:57] <akik> skype is 32-bit so i needed to install a bunch of :i386 packages
[18:58] <akik> toast762: what is the executable you're trying to run?
[18:58] <toast762> qbmonitord it's a monitor piece for Quickbooks Database Server software
[18:59] <toast762> so file qbmonitord gives good info
[18:59] <toast762> cd into the directory and run ./qbmonitord gives no such file or directory
[18:59] <toast762> instead of file not found.
[18:59] <toast762> err...insteadd of command not found.
[18:59] <akik> toast762: libc6:i386 and libstdc++6:i386 could be a start in debugging it
[19:01] <darius93> hm any reason why im getting an "unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed" when installing pcsx2?
[19:02] <slidinghorn> ioria: ran sudo wpa_supplicant -B -iwlo1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext && sudo dhclient wlo1     got successfully initialized then ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument (x2)
[19:03] <toast762> AKIK:  new error.  error while loading shared libraries : libfam.so.0: Cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  This is progress.
[19:04] <toast762> I installed libc6-i386 and then got this new error.
[19:05] <OerHeks> toast762, on what ubuntu version?
[19:05] <toast762> 14 server
[19:06] <toast762> 14.04.3
[19:06] <asad_> What can I do to emulate a middle click using three fingers tap on my touchpad? Right now a middle click seems to work by tapping the top right corner of the touchpad.
[19:07] <OerHeks> toast762, is  ./qbmonitord executable? chmod +x
[19:07] <toast762> it is
[19:07] <genii> toast762: I'd suggest if you have a directory called /usr/lib32 to mv everything there to /lib/i386-linux-gnu  and then make /usr/lib32 into a symlink to that directory as well
[19:07] <toast762> shows gree in ls
[19:08] <harishkrupo> asad_, Have you tried touch egg?
[19:08] <asad_> harishkrupo: No, what is that?
[19:09] <toast762> genii summary on why to mv to lib/i386-linux-gnu????
[19:09] <akik> toast762: try install libfam0 package
[19:09] <akik> !libfam0
[19:09] <akik> !info libfam0
[19:09] <akik> genii: i wouldn't manually change library directories installed through the package manager
[19:10] <asad_> harishkrupo: I don't want any startup scripts or anything running in the background.. I just want to enable three finger tap to emulate a middle click instead of using the top right corner of the toucpad
[19:10] <harishkrupo> asad_, It lets you define gestures for your trackpad
[19:10] <genii> toast762: Because many old legacy apps look for shared libs to be in /usr/lib32 whereas they are all now standardized in /lib/i386-linux-gnu
[19:10] <asad_> harishkrupo: Yeah I don't need gestures... just this one thing.
[19:11] <harishkrupo> asad_, I am not sure ubuntu provides this facility
[19:11] <harishkrupo> asad_, you need a daemon to track your touchpad
[19:12] <asad_> harishkrupo: Well ubuntu certainly seems to provide two finger tap to emulate a right click. It also obviously provides two finger scrolling so it must provide three finger tap to emulate a middle click.
[19:12] <akik> toast762: sorry, libfam0:i386
[19:12] <toast762> New error.  LIBFAM0 installed  now on executable run error while loading shared libraries: libfam.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:13] <asad_> haris
[19:13] <michel_> i tried to create a bootable usb stick from iso for about 3 hours but nothing seems to work. isousb, dd, unetbootin just copy the files over but cant boot from it even when the boot flag is set to usb. any ideas ?
[19:13] <Iresf> please help me why ubuntu 14.04 is very dirty
[19:13] <akik> toast762: remove the 64-bit package if you installed it and install libfam0:i386
[19:13] <harishkrupo> asad_, you must also remember that not all touch pads support more that 2 fingers
[19:13] <frecel> popey: what channel do xenial people hang out in?
[19:13] <popey> frecel, #ubuntu+1
[19:14] <frecel> popey: thanks
[19:14] <harishkrupo> asad_, if it supports more than 2 fingers then ubuntu by default maps 3 fingers to open the task switcher
[19:14] <Iresf> ubuntu is dirty
[19:15] <nicomachus> Iresf: what do you mean
[19:15] <asad_> harishkrupo: I'm using the synaptics i2c module for my touchpad.
[19:15] <JennyBlueBird> Hi guys. Just recently installed 15.10 Xubuntu, and use the restricted nvidia drivers ( the version which said "tested"). All text and fonts look horrific, as if it is not smoothed at all. tried playing with settings in the GUI , firefox and even nvidia-settings but nothing seems to change it.
[19:16] <JennyBlueBird> any ideas ? :S
[19:17] <toast762> !!!!!!!SOLVED.  Thanks AKIK and Oerhek  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:17] <harishkrupo> asad_, here read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/33574/how-can-i-test-to-see-if-my-touchpad-is-supports-more-than-2-finger-gestures
[19:19] <asad_> harishkrupo: Thanks. I'll have a look at it.
[19:19] <akik> toast762: did you install quickbooks from a tar file or how?
[19:19] <harishkrupo> asad_, to summarize install geis-tools and run geisview
[19:19] <toast762> it was an rpm that I used alien to get to deb.
[19:20] <rhalff> hi, does ubuntu normally have a .bash_profile file?
[19:20] <toast762> I don't think i'm done yet though.  I can now run it but it doesn't seem to stay running like it should.
[19:20] <harishkrupo> asad_, check devices touches in the tree view of the last option
[19:20] <rhalff> Trying to debug something and don't know if a utility overwrite it or newly created it.
[19:20] <akik> toast762: you should probably use a red hat distro if it's for anything serious
[19:21] <toast762> ok
[19:21] <nicomachus> rhalff: no.
[19:21] <slidinghorn> rhalff: by default, there isnt one, but you can create it
[19:21] <rhalff> nicomachus, ok thanks, then I found the bug I guess :)
[19:21] <toast762> only reason I did ubuntu is because free.
[19:22] <toast762> redhat is paid isn't it?
[19:22] <harishkrupo> redhat is paid for the support
[19:22] <toast762> ahh..
[19:22] <akik> toast762: centos and fedora are free. centos is a binary compatible version of rhel
[19:24] <akik> i don't know the right word in english. centos is compiled from the same sources as rhel
[19:26] <toast762> My only linux experiance is Mint and Ubuntu so I went with Ubuntu this time but I'll pull down Cent and try again.
[19:26] <toast762> this small business I'm helping keeps hosting thier Quickbooks files on one of their desktops.  everytime they get spyware it brings their business to a halt.
[19:27] <toast762> wanna host the QB on a seperate machine that is hardened so they don't have this problem constantly.
[19:29] <boxmein> oh also
[19:29] <boxmein> i yesterday waltzed in here complaining about all windows showing black, while window deco, unitydash, notifications etc worked
[19:29] <boxmein> sudo apt-get upgrade installed a new version of intel drivers, that magically solved it
[19:29] <boxmein> just for Documentation(TM)
[19:30] <nicomachus> it's amazing what new intel drivers can resolve.
[19:31] <toast762> how hard are some of the Linux certifications?
[19:31] <toast762> <--20 year Windows/network IT vetran with very little *nix experiance.
[19:31] <deicer> Linux+ isnt bad
[19:32] <bazhang> toast762, thats for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <toast762> oh.  sorry
[19:32] <toast762> forgot I was in support.
[19:32] <bazhang> np
[19:32] <deicer> heh
[19:32] <deicer> toast762 try the Comptia Linux+ first
[19:32] <deicer> u can find sample questions on da net
[19:32] <hispeed67> when you run update, why do you use two &'s?
[19:32] <toast762> k
[19:33] <bazhang> hispeed67, when followed with upgrade?
[19:33] <zykotick9> hispeed67: && means, after first command completes successfully do second.
[19:33] <hispeed67> why not use ; ?
[19:34] <boxmein> hispeed67: ; runs the second command whether or not the first command exited successfully
[19:34] <hispeed67> aahhhh.. thnx
[19:34] <boxmein> hispeed67: programs indicate "i completed successfully" with an exit code ($?) of 0, and any errors are non-0 exit codes
[19:34] <hispeed67> thought it had something to do with 'run in background'..
[19:35] <boxmein> hispeed67: so update && explode runs explode only if update exits with 0
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> that is just a single &
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> command &
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> will run command as a job in the background
[19:35] <boxmein> hispeed67: yeah, what MiningMarsh said
[19:35] <MiningMarsh> && is seperate
[19:35] <hispeed67> gotcha.
[19:45] <ubuntu845> hey
[19:46] <ubuntu845> could use some help
[19:46] <ubuntu845> anyone worked on android studio?
[19:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu845: what's the problem?
[19:46] <EriC^^> oh
 Thank-you very much for saving my data, could you tell me is it possible to install git on try ubuntu..
[19:47] <ubuntu845> Anyone?
[19:49] <sysop-rick> Hi! is there anyone knowing a method to convert a xml file that has been generated by Figaro password manager 2 and then imported in any available password manager? I.E keepassx
[19:49] <slidinghorn> ubuntu845: It's better to just come out and ask your question.  If anyone knows the answer, they'll reply.  However, this channel is only for Ubuntu support, so if it's a question on how to do something in android studio, it'd likely be off-topic here
[19:50] <goddard> i modified a kernel file and compiled.  It was suppose to fix a problem, but the problem still exists.
[19:51] <ubuntu845> slidinghorn yeah i know but anroid irc channel requires some sort of authorization.. so i came here hoping someone might help
[19:51] <slidinghorn> ubuntu845: chances are, they just need your nick to be registered...a lot of channels do it to prevent spamming, etc.  /msg nickserv help       for more information on how ot register
[19:51] <renn0xtk9> some people literrate with rsync? I am doing rsync -v -a -z -E -h --progress --delete-before /home/max/.kde/share/apps inspiron/.kde/share/apps from a script located on a usb key. it does not work
[19:52] <ubuntu845> my question, Ive an android project folder, my friend's actually. How do I import or open that project on a freshly installed android studio and run it?
[19:52] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, go on
[19:53] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, you will find that option as soon as you open android studio
[19:54] <ubuntu845> i did that but what file I'm supposed  to select to open on?
[19:54] <javabean_> I have a ubuntu digital ocean droplet
[19:54] <javabean_> is there anyway I could create a way to see wether someone has hacked it
[19:54] <javabean_> ?
[19:54] <javabean_> perhaps see if they have edited config filesd.
[19:55] <harishkrupo> ubuntu845, when you browse through your directory you will find your project directory with the android studio logo instead of the directory logo, open that
[19:58] <ubuntu845> harishkrupo trying.. be back
[20:03] <Iresf>  i have installed kerio on ubuntu 14.04 but it doesnt work for me please help me i couldnt find any sulotion for this problem
[20:03] <bazhang> what is kerio Iresf
[20:05] <slidinghorn> Using a stripped down version of 15.10 and cannot connect to any WPA network other than the one Ubuntu configured during install.  My wireless info from the script is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14077651 - I've added a friend's network info using nm-connection-editor just like the original connection (obviously using its own info) to no avail
[20:05] <nicomachus> bazhang: seems to be a VPN client.
[20:05] <doubleDragons> Iresf, make sure you've followed this steps: http://kb.kerio.com/product/kerio-connect/installation-and-upgrade/installing-kerio-connect-on-ubuntu-server-1404-lts-1628.html
[20:05] <bazhang> thanks nicomachus
[20:06] <slidinghorn> (unfortunately, I'm at home, so I can't immediately test if something works until I go somewhere else with a different network)
[20:08] <metroins> How do I install a .tar.gz?  I am trying to install Java Runtime Development kit
[20:08] <sivang> hi all
[20:08] <teward> !java | metroins
[20:09] <teward> metroins, there's useful information on that page including instructions and such
[20:09] <metroins> teward: Well that was easy, thank you
[20:09] <teward> metroins, you're welcome
[20:10] <sivang> I'm getting this when running glxgears, libGL error: failed to authenticate magic 85
[20:10] <sivang> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
[20:10] <sivang> anybody knows how can I make this go away?
[20:10] <D4RK3D> exit
[20:10] <Iresf> doubleDragons : i can not access to kerio website it is block in my country
[20:10] <sivang> (I'm running on an EC2 instance, and I'm doing a headless web testing with webkit so I don't think I need any opengl support in hardware)
[20:11] <harishkrupo> \quit
[20:16] <sn0w3> Who is a geek ?
[20:16] <reveal> <-
[20:18] <slidinghorn> !ask
[20:20] <sruli> lubuntu 14.04 i want to update spice-gtk and its dependencies to the packages from 15.04 how can i do that?
[20:22] <blackwind_123> hi all, there used to be a application called SCREEN, im not able to install it in my UBUNTU machine now using "sudo apt-get install screen", also please let me know if there is any better app than screen...?
[20:23] <EriC^^> blackwind_123: what error do you get?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> sruli: Essentially it sounds like you're looking for a PPA.  Unfortunately, PPAs aren't supported here.  You might be best off waiting til April when 16.04 LTS comes out, which would almost assuredly have the newer version
[20:24] <jann_> hallo jemand hier? kann mir jemand helfen ?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> !de | jann_
[20:25] <sruli> slidinghorn: i need the functionality of the updated app, can i add 15.04 to my repo list and get it that way?
[20:26] <slidinghorn> sruli: definitely not...that will most likely break just about everything
[20:26] <thoht__> hi
[20:26] <sruli> slidinghorn: i will remove the repo after i nstalled the packages i need
[20:26] <thoht__> i just installed ubuntu instead of a previous windows install
[20:27] <thoht__> and during install; grub don t want to install
[20:27] <thoht__> i says there is multiple labels
[20:27] <thoht__> i tried to perform dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[20:27] <thoht__> where sdb is the hard drive
[20:28] <slidinghorn> sruli: your 2 options are either a PPA or waiting for 16.04 (assuming you didn't upgrade because you want an LTS release)
[20:28] <thoht__> now the grub installer try to install grub on /dev/sda -which is my current usb key with the ubuntu install image -
[20:28] <thoht__> any clue to finish the install properly ?
[20:29] <Macsurf> hello I have problem enable module for rt73, I installed firmware-ralink, lsmod gave me nothing :(
[20:29] <slidinghorn> thoht__: Try not to use the enter button as punctuation.  It makes your problem very difficult to read & follow.  Try posting everything on one line in the future. :)
[20:29] <blackwind_123> EriC^^ : Package not avaialable, im trying to install SCREE
[20:29] <thoht__> slidinghorn: sure
[20:29] <Macsurf> rt73 module for wifi usb of course
[20:30] <sruli> slidinghorn: i have been pushing off upgrade as i want LTS, i am starting to think I cant wait any longer, how likly is it to get into trouble with my config when upgrading from 15,10 to 16.04?
[20:31] <sruli> slidinghorn: and how stable is 15.10 vs 14.04
[20:32] <EriC^^> blackwind_123: are you typing SCREEN or screen?
[20:32] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install screen ?
[20:32] <EriC^^> !info screen
[20:32] <thoht__> slidinghorn:  i think i erased the table partition/ with fdisk -l; there is nothing anymore after the dd done ::
[20:33] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: you _might_ want to check out tmux as an alternative to screen YMMV
[20:34] <slidinghorn> thoht__: fdisk -l should only list the tables...that command won't make any changes.
[20:34] <blackwind_123> EriC^^ : yes tats right, i update the source.list file in apt dir, after which im able to run the apt-get. thank you for the help
[20:34] <thoht__> slidinghorn: fdisk -l don't show me the 2 partition created during ubuntu installation anymore
[20:34] <blackwind_123> zykotick9 : tmux , is it better than SCREEN
[20:34] <zykotick9> thoht__: are you using "sudo fdisk -l"?
[20:35] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: is yellow better than orange?  it's a user preverence thing.
[20:35] <thoht__> zykotick9: yes. even with fdisk /dev/sdb then press "p" it show me the just the disk label but not partition
[20:35] <zykotick9> thoht__: ok, just checkin'
[20:36] <blackwind_123> zykotick9 : agree
[20:37] <zykotick9> blackwind_123: i used screen for many years, i now like tmux a lot more... but again YMMV
[20:37] <thoht__> zykotick9: i wanted to erase the MBR but i think partition table was also wiped when i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[20:37] <ikonia> thoht__: that will do the partition table too
[20:37] <thoht__> ikonia: so i can recreate it with fdisk ?
[20:37] <sruli> slidinghorn: how stable is 15.10 vs 14.04
[20:38] <ikonia> thoht__: you can, but it's gone
[20:39] <slidinghorn> sruli: They're both workable versions - Just know that if you decide to upgrade, you'll have to do 14.04-14.10, 14.10-15.04, then 15.04-15.10....followed by an upgrade to 16.04 for the LTS when it comes out
[20:41] <sruli> slidinghorn: will do a reinstall
[20:41] <thoht__> ikonia: data are not gone
[20:41] <ikonia> I didn't say the data was gone
[20:41] <thoht__> so i could recreate the table partition as it was
[20:42] <ikonia> as I said "yes" just be aware the partition table is currently "gone"
[20:43] <thoht__> ikonia: i m still in the ubuntu installer
[20:44] <thoht__> my primary issue is /dev/sdb has still trace from previous windows installation and grub don t want to install due to that.
[20:45] <ikonia> thoht__: that seems unlikley to be the problem
[20:45] <ikonia> thoht__: what "trace" of windows is stopping grub install ?
[20:45] <thoht__> ikonia: `install-grub` claims that I have multiple partiton labels and that embedding is impossible
[20:45] <dunkel2> hello
[20:46] <ikonia> thoht__: why is that a windows install problem ?
[20:46] <dunkel2> i added a daemon to init.d but is not starting on boot, how can i check what is going on?
[20:46] <ikonia> actually - never mind, do what you feel best
[20:46] <Uber> hello
[20:46] <ikonia> dunkel2: what version of ubuntu ?
[20:46] <dunkel2> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[20:47] <ikonia> dunkel2: that release is end of life and out of support
[20:47] <dunkel2> :(
[20:47] <dunkel2> i did the update-rc.d name defaults but still not strting on boot
[20:47] <ikonia> dunkel2: that release is end of life and out of support
[20:47] <dunkel2> :(
[20:48] <zebn11> What is the procedure for installing more font sizes for VGA, so it can be selected in dpkg-reconfigure console-setup? The smallest option is too small, and the bigger VGA sizes are a bit too large
[20:48] <zebn11> (I'm not sure how to phrase this question really. Just trying to get more VGA size options for console)
[20:52] <nicomachus> dunkel2: upgrade!
[20:55] <dunkel2> not possible at the moment but yes i will
[20:55] <nicomachus> why not?
[20:57] <akik> zebn11: have you tried setfont and the fonts found in /usr/share/consolefonts ?
[20:57] <Bilel_mk> hey everyone can someone help how can i change my ip on mozilla on ubuntu ???
[20:57] <ikonia> Bilel_mk: why do you need to change your IP ?
[20:58] <zebn11> akik: thanks, I'll give this a try.
[20:59] <ubagters> zebn11: what
[21:00] <Bilel_mk> ikonia, i want more Privacy  wen i connect to the internet or in local wfif internet
[21:00] <ikonia> Bilel_mk: changing your IP won't make it more private
[21:00] <muzontrek> HI
[21:00] <iu8z> hello everyone, I tried half a dozen DVDs to burn install image, but I get this error: 'error while burning: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 03] Medium error. Power calibration area error.' I tried with brasero. are all discs defected, or is it the image?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Bilel_mk  tor browser is a start, it's based on firefox
[21:01] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: nothing is private on the internet anymore
[21:01] <nicomachus> Bilel_mk: you can also look into a VPN service.
[21:01] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: how private. Who you hiding from. Is important
[21:03] <BluesKaj> iu8z, check the md5 sum of the image file
[21:03] <Bilel_mk> i am not heiden i whant to try every think tor browser i dont like it i want to modify my firefox with my one
[21:03] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: TOR or vpn is useful for most. But don't go threatening to blow things up.
[21:03] <Bilel_mk> VPN how i use it ??
[21:03] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: then TOR browser. It's free and no set up.
[21:03] <Bassem> how can i make uget download from youtube
[21:04] <iu8z> BluesKaj, I dont know how to check it.
[21:04] <BluesKaj> !md5 sum
[21:04] <slidinghorn> !vpn | Bilel_mk
[21:05] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: https://www.torproject.org
[21:05] <kichuku> Hello. Does anyone here use google cloud compute?
[21:05] <nicomachus> !checksum | iu8z
[21:05] <muzontrek> Hello , there is a problem , I can not open the file etc / shadow opens in gedit and writes that are not allowed to open the file , though sitting with root ..
[21:05] <nicomachus> Bassem: install youtube-dl
[21:05] <kk4k> I'm having problems with my hard drive. Someone told me to run sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda to fix it. Should I run this?
[21:06] <kichuku> I am having a problem with a linux VM running in google cloud compute. Usually shutting down the VM terminates the instance. But for this particular ubuntu VM the instance does not get terminated after I shut down the OS.
[21:06] <tlt> no
[21:06] <nicomachus> kk4k: absolutely not.
[21:06] <akik> kk4k: no
[21:06] <tlt> kk4k, you should not
[21:06] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: don't trust VPN. Most keep IP logs which the law can get easy. Really any body can get the logs just for the asking.
[21:06] <genii> kk4k: Not before trying other things first, that will wipe it out entirely
[21:06] <Bassem> nicomachus, uget can't download?? i want one program to download files and from youtube as well
[21:06] <muzontrek> Hello , there is a problem , I can not open the file etc / shadow opens in gedit and writes that are not allowed to open the file , though sitting with root ..
[21:06] <tlt> kk4k, always ask people in here before doing things you have no idea what does.
[21:06] <ubagters> Bilel_mk: TOR was designed by USA military. It's very secure.
[21:07] <nicomachus> Bassem: youtube-dl is made to download youtube videos.
[21:07] <Bilel_mk> ubagters, i have Tor but some web site become don't work somouthly
[21:07] <iu8z> nicomachus, thank you! I have the checksum now
[21:07] <genii> kk4k: You should probably describe to us what problems you are having with it first and see if theres something to do
[21:07] <Bilel_mk> like facebbook
[21:07] <Bassem> nicomachus, so i need two downloading programs one for files and one for youtube???
[21:07] <nicomachus> ubagters: Bilel_mk: that's a conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic or ##networking, not here.
[21:07] <ikonia> Bassem: look - grow up, stop trying to hide your ip from sites like facebook
[21:07] <akik> muzontrek: you need sudo root access to edit /etc/shadow
[21:07] <ikonia> it adds no value
[21:08] <Bassem> ikonia, what are you talking about?
[21:08] <nicomachus> Bassem: ikonia doesn't mean you. also, yes you need two programs.
[21:08] <ikonia> Bassem: sorry, I meant Bilel_mk
[21:08] <Bassem> nicomachus, will youtube-dl download from other sites or only youtube?
[21:08] <iu8z> md5sums of the downloaded iso matches that of the ubuntu version.
[21:08] <iu8z> so that means all my disks are unusable?
[21:09] <Mitchell1992> Hi... I'm installing Ubuntu Server on top of Hyper-V, and its stuck on, "installing the system 83%"... Is it not compatible.
[21:09] <Mitchell1992> ?
[21:09] <nicomachus> Bassem: it will download video from many sites with embedded players. I believe there are 20+ sites supported now.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> Mitchell1992  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:10] <BluesKaj> iu8z, perhaps your burner program or the cdrom drive has a problem
[21:10] <Mitchell1992> okay, MonkeyDust... thanks.
[21:10] <muzontrek> akik: how i can do it
[21:10] <Bilel_mk> ikonia, look i not heiden just i am just curious
[21:11] <akik> muzontrek: maybe "sudo gedit /etc/shadow"
[21:11] <Bassem> nicomachus, where i can find sound for xchat
[21:11] <Mitchell1992> MonkeyDust: It's moving along now... Just very slowly :)
[21:11] <nicomachus> Bassem: idk, that's not an ubuntu support question.
[21:11] <muzontrek> akik: TNX!!!
[21:12] <akik> no problem
[21:12] <iu8z> I was using brasero, it always used to work
[21:13] <iu8z> could you suggest me any other program to burn iso on dvd?
[21:13] <akik> iu8z: k3b, growisofs
[21:13] <muzontrek> akik: i write to console what u say and i get this and clear etc/shadow file
[21:14] <muzontrek> akik:(gedit:4595): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[21:14] <iu8z> akik, havent heard of them, thanks, I will try
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !burn | iu8z
[21:15] <akik> muzontrek: do you have a command called gksu? maybe "gksu gedit /etc/shadow" be careful though about editing that file
[21:15] <nicomachus> iu8z: sometimes it can also be helpful to burn the disk at a slower speed.
[21:17] <muzontrek> akik:tnx i will try it
[21:18] <akik> muzontrek: if that doesn't work, use "sudo nano /etc/shadow" in the terminal
[21:18] <iu8z> MonkeyDust, thank you for the alternatives :)
[21:18] <iu8z> nicomachus, thank you! I'll try slower now
[21:19] <Sorry> first time i use ubuntu ! hi all
[21:20] <muzontrek> akik:TNX!!! it works!!!
[21:21] <iu8z> nicomachus, slowing down does seem to have done the trick..if it doesnt say 'ejecting medium' at some point, it already burned one fifth of it
[21:23] <Bassem> how can i Edit/ - Startup XCHAT
[21:24] <k1l> Bassem: can you explain more?
[21:24] <Bassem> i found some help on site says Edit/ - Startup XCHAT after you have the sound config file in the folder
[21:25] <Bassem> i did put the sound config file on the folder
[21:25] <Bassem> now how can i Edit/ - Startup XCHAT
[21:26] <nicomachus> Bassem: perhaps #xchat can help?
[21:27] <iu8z> just curious..why does the install process not ask for password to install bootloader when burning on disc, as it does when creating live usb?
[21:28] <OerHeks> xchat is nolonger under development, not finding basic sounds is a known issue
[21:29] <Bassem> done i fix it
[21:30] <iu8z> after burning the disc was completed, it was ejected saying 'there was an error occurred' ??!
[21:31] <iu8z> and the disk is shown as 1,1gb unknown.
[21:41] <nicomachus> well, he's gone, but this is why USB is preferred ^
[21:43] <tlt> yeah I'd've dd'ed the iso to a usb stick personally
[21:50] <akik> i use my usb dvd rom burner to burn installation discs
[21:50] <akik> dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd+rw
[21:51] <akik> iu8z must have a hw problem
[21:51] <nicomachus> it's hard to find a good, working optical drive these days because no one really uses them anymore.
[21:51] <iu8z> I tried the disc with brasero on another machine, and the whole process is about to complete successfully, and this at maximum speed..
[21:52] <akik> nicomachus: it's wrong to say no one
[21:52] <iu8z> yes, it is complete
[21:52] <akik> i just said i use it
[21:52] <nicomachus> akik yes, that was an exaggerated statement.
[21:53] <OerHeks> heh, i did burn one this week as ubuntu-support-point service
[21:53] <iu8z> thank you all for your help, going for the installation now!
[22:11] <snoozelose> Hello, can anyone help with Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit and VMware internet connectivity issue?
[22:12] <frecel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:12] <frecel> I think the pictures on this page need to be updated
[22:12] <frecel> it did make me feel a little nostalgic
[22:14] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: What's your question?  Try to keep it to one line & provide as much detail as possible.  If anyone knows the answer, they'll reply :)
[22:16] <snoozelose> Ubuntu in VMware doesn't have internet connection. I've used /etc/network/interfaces, tried static ip, tried dhcp, tried ifdown eth0 etc but no matter what "unknown host" when pinging. Nothing I seem to find online works. I have had this before but nothing resolves it now
[22:18] <nicomachus> snoozelose: idk about VMWare, but Virtualbox has a dropdown at the top of the window labelled "Devices" with an option for "Network" --> "Connect Network Adaptor". anything like that?
[22:18] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: what's the host OS and which version/flavor of ubuntu is the Guest?
[22:19] <snoozelose> Windows 7 64-bit host. ubuntu 14.04 LTS. VMware does have the guest connection and interfaces but that is connected. i've tried bridged, nat, and any other combo
[22:19] <slidinghorn> snoozelose: Have you seen this (and the links in the answer?)  Just throwing out ideas to start :)
[22:19] <slidinghorn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/578260/ubuntu-installed-on-vmware-cannot-get-access-to-internet  (link usually helps)
[22:21] <tgm4883> snoozelose: what is your host OS?
[22:21] <snoozelose> Before it just wouldn't connect, I followed a guide for /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and i got the ethernet to show the connected icon with "ifupdown(eth0), but still can't ping. I tried bridging adapters, that looks fine
[22:21] <snoozelose> Windows 7 64-bit
[22:22] <bob3247> whats the name of the security tool for beginner/intermediate on ubuntu  - to Scan and suggest fixes and even autofix issues ??
[22:22] <nicomachus> bob3247: never heard of such a thing...
[22:22] <slidinghorn> bob3247: Not sure one exists, but that's why this channel is here ;)  What seems to be the problem?
[22:24] <k1l> bob3247: there is no such thing as automated security :/
[22:24] <bob3247> slidinghorn, just spending a short time to check my security this evening and all the tools I have found so far seem a little complex for even an intermediate user so I was looking for something a little simpler to start with
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> bob3247: try rkhunter and chkrootkit
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> bob3247: They don't just report rootkits, they report any weird little issues they see
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> just run them once, no setup or anything
[22:27] <k1l> and you still need to know about that stuff they report to see if its a security issue or not.
[22:27] <myztic> is anyone running unity? I just switched to Ubuntu on my notebook (reached the point where I don't care anymore and want ease of use over "feeling l33t") and I have to admit: it's better than I thought it would be
[22:27] <k1l> so that is just fake secrutiy.
[22:27] <bob3247> thx MiningMarsh I'll give those two a shot
[22:27] <tgm4883> I run unity
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> k1l: well yeah, but it is a good start.
[22:28] <slidinghorn> bob3247: Well, you can try adding a GUI to iptables (the firewall) to make it easier to work with:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Easy_configuratin_via_GUI  (I'd recommend reading the whole page, not just that section)  Also, "clamav" is the default anti-virus, you can add a GUI to that as well: sudo apt-get install clamtk
[22:28] <rww> not when it comes up with a bunch of false positives on every Ubuntu installation and you delete them and hose your system, it's not
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> does it really?
[22:28] <rww> last time I looked into it, it did.
[22:28] <rww> s/it/them/g
[22:29] <MiningMarsh> rww: My bad then, I haven't run it against ubuntu, just gentoo
[22:29] <rww> they come up clean out of the box on gentoo?
[22:29] <bob3247> slidinghorn, I'll give clamav a run out too - I have had ufw/gufw up and running for a few months now, just with the default rules
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> rww: I had a single false positive last I checked
[22:30] <k1l> which is to scan windows partitions for windows viruses.
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> rww: iirc
[22:30] <supercom32> If I set a variable like java_home in a bash script, will it persist even after the script ends? Or will it only persist while the script is running?
[22:30] <k1l> bob3247: @ cltamav
[22:30] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: while it is running
[22:30] <k1l> *clamav
[22:31] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: a program/script cannot export a variable to any program that it does not itself spawn.
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: if you want to export a variable top level, stick it in your ~/.(bash|zsh)rc  file
[22:32] <slidinghorn> k1l: It's certainly useful & smart to run it on your *nix side, as well...I've seen actual cases where Windows malware can negatively affect your linux install - also helps your standing as a good netizen ;)  (cc bob3247)
[22:32] <supercom32> @miningMarsh: I guess there is no way around this eh? I also assume this is the case for scripts called by other scripts. Sub scripts can't set variables of the parent?
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: Nope, and yeah
[22:32] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: its a UNIX thing, all programs inherit the environment of their parent.
[22:33] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: So just find somewhere top-level enough to set what you need to
[22:33] <Dro> oracle status show this: http://pastebin.com/r1dn4XBn anyone have an idea how to solve it please?
[22:34] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: do you know of a command that can specifically list what java versions are installed and complain if it's not high enough?
[22:34] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and also, there is a common workaround in bash of returning something to be evaled
[22:34] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: oh?
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: yeah, make your script return something like "A=5;B=6"
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> and instead of calling `script`, call `eval $(script)`
[22:35] <MiningMarsh> it's kind of messy
[22:36] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: ah, I will have to give that a try. I thought scripts could only return an exit number and not legit strings or variables.
[22:36] <slidinghorn> k1l: mind if I PM you for the example I was talking about?  Don't see you in -ot
[22:36] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: this gets java version on my machine: java -version 2>&1 | head -n1 | egrep -o '[0-9._]+'
[22:37] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: shouldn't be too hard to compare that against another version number
[22:37] <k1l> slidinghorn: go ahead.
[22:37] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and I imagine that should work on anything that has `java`
[22:38] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: oh and yeah, when I said return
[22:39] <MiningMarsh> I didn't mean `return A=5;B=6` I meant `echo A=5;B=6`
[22:40] <peppino> hi
[22:40] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: what if your sub script is interactive and you happen to echo a lot of guff? Will only the last line be used? I'm not sure how that works.
[22:42] <peppino> did someone of us try to start ubuntu live with gtx 960m?
[22:42] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: There is a really disgusting way of doing it
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: make all the interactive stuff print to stderr instead of stdour
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> i.e. echo Hello user! 1>&2
[22:43] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: and then print what you want evaled to stdout as normal
[22:44] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: as (at least when I test with zsh, haven't tested with bash) the shell won't eat stderr
[22:44] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: Gah! That is pretty messy. I guess I don't have many options do i?
[22:45] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> peppino: Re-phrase please . Do "you" have a issue ?
[22:46] <peppino> yes, i have a big problem
[22:46] <peppino> when i try to start ubuntu live, it doesn't start
[22:46] <peppino> i've the same problem with other linux distro
[22:47] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: I am trying to call a sub script that will prompt the user to define a jvm path to use as a java home car. But there is no way to pass that back to the parent so it can use it during it's own instance.
[22:47] <peppino> i think the prbme  is graphic card
[22:47] <k1l> peppino: maybe you need nomodeset already on the live system
[22:47] <Bashing-om> peppino: Have you tried booting the liveDVD with the boot parameter " nomodeset " ?
[22:48] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: You can use . instead of source and just source the subscript.
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: . /usr/bin/ask-for-info.sh or whatever, I *think* that will let the "subscript" modify the calling scripts env
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: since it is just a straight text replacement instead of an actual subprocess
[22:49] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: But yeah, not a ton of options if you are deadset on using a subscript
[22:49] <supercom32> @MiningMarsh: woosh! You lost me :-D Can you elaborate for me a bit? I'm a little green to this.
[22:51] <peppino> @Bashing-om how can i do this?
[22:51] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: Have you ever programmed C? "source /path/to/script" is basically "#include <path/to/script>"
[22:52] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: also, when you say "@MiningMarsh" instead of just "MiningMarsh", it doesn't actually let me know you were talking, fyi.
[22:53] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: Really?! I thought the @ sign was manditory syntax lol
[22:53] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: ". /path/to/script" takes the script's text, and replaces the line with it
[22:53] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: brb
[22:54] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: I see!
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | peppino >> Boot the liveDVD, as soon as the bios scrren clears depress a shift key (MBR) -> language screen -> F6 key .
[22:54] <noon> how to login with my original nick from the command line ? irssi  ??
[22:54] <noon> i keep getting cannot send to channel #linux
[22:54] <k1l> !register | noon and for more help regarding freenode and the channels ask in #freenode
[22:56] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: So since you are not launching a script, just loading it, it runs in the same process, and lets you edit local variables in the calling script. Make sure to use ". script" and not "source script" (I have had issues with the latter)
[22:56] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | peppino
[22:57] <slidinghorn> I'm stepping away for a bit, but if anyone wants to take a crack at my wireless issue, it's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306665 | Basically I can only connect to the WPA network that Ubuntu set up during install, no others :-\   Later folks!
[22:57] <supercom32> MiningMarsh: that's strange. Most of the online articles say to use source
[22:58] <MiningMarsh> supercom32: You can try source. Last time I tested them it seemed like source was doing some sort of post processing, whereas . was just a raw text replacement.
[22:59] <MiningMarsh> I can't remember exactly what it was doing, but source was breaking something...
[22:59] <peppino> ubottu: now i try it. thank you :)
[22:59] <qdii> hey guys
[23:00] <qdii> can someone explain me what's going on here? http://pastebin.com/AZvfXhvB
[23:00] <Bassem> where youtube-dl usually download the files
[23:00] <peppino> Bashing-om: now i try it. thank you :)
[23:00] <k1l> Bassem: Download folder in your home?
[23:00] <tgm4883> qdii: it would appear that you've got packaging conflicts
[23:01] <Bassem> k1l, can i change it desktop?
[23:01] <qdii> ok, that part I understood
[23:01] <tgm4883> qdii: or rather, the application that you are trying to download has a conflict with some packages you have installed
[23:01] <xangua> Bassem: your home
[23:01] <tgm4883> qdii: so then whats the question?
[23:01] <qdii> well, I'm trying to install the 32 bit version of a library
[23:01] <qdii> I'm not sure what it conflicts with
[23:02] <k1l> qdii: can you try apt-get instead of aptitude?
[23:02] <xangua> also you might need to add a thir party repository to keep youtube-dl updated Bassem (the update option is removed from the Ubuntu package)
[23:02] <Bashing-om> peppino: :) We are here if still with a problem . If installing remember after install to install a graphic's driver .
[23:02] <qdii> k1l: yeah, I did actually
[23:02] <qdii> basically same error but less verbose
[23:02] <Bassem> xangua, how can i add it?
[23:03] <tgm4883> qdii: libllvm3.6v5 conflicts with libllvm3.6
[23:03] <qdii> you mean, libllvm3.6v5:i386 conflicts with libllvm3.6:amd64 ?
[23:04] <tgm4883> qdii: I don't believe that is what I said, let me check
[23:05] <tgm4883> qdii: Looks like it's probably libllvm3.6v5 that conflicts with libllvm3.6 across the board
[23:05] <tgm4883> not arch specific
[23:06] <qdii> ok, that makes (some sense), but as a parenthesis could you explain the libgl1-mesa-dri "Breaks" line?
[23:07] <qdii> I feel like aptitude is trying to say something and I have no idea what
[23:07] <qdii> as for libllvm, dpkg indeed indicates that libllvm3.6:i386 is installed
[23:08] <tgm4883> qdii: apparently there is some issue with the package that would break the other package. "Breaks" is something that the package maintainers put in, so for some reason they think that one package would break the other
[23:08] <Guest9243> hi all, any good articles on how to manage network bridging with kvm on ubuntu 15.10
[23:08] <afidegnum> hello, what facial authantication is there available for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[23:08] <Guest9243> ?
[23:08] <tgm4883> qdii: whenever I've used that, I generally use Breaks and Replaces together as I'm moving stuff around and sugh
[23:08] <afidegnum> PAM authentication seems to work with the old versions
[23:09] <myztic> how do I connect in ubuntu (not in command line, but in the file manager) to a server via ssh?
[23:09] <myztic> I remember (I think it was thunar) that this was very easy once
[23:10] <genii> myztic: ssh://username@servername
[23:10] <qdii> myztic: once connected, what do you expect to see? a prompt?
[23:10] <k1l> myztic: nautilus (the gnome filemanager) supports connecting to servers with different protocols
[23:11] <myztic> genii: awesome, ty
[23:11] <myztic> the syntax was different than I thought
[23:11] <slidinghorn> afidegnum: there was a PPA a while back that worked, but it hasn't been updated in years...last supported version was Oneiric
[23:12] <afidegnum> slidinghorn: that's hte issue ia m facing
[23:12] <afidegnum> is that the only facial authentication tool available?
[23:15] <tgm4883> afidegnum: I've not heard of any others
[23:15] <tgm4883> facial authentication seems like a bad idea to me
[23:16] <afidegnum> well, not for strict authentication, per say, for example getting to sudo via facial auth, instead of repeatedly typing password
[23:17] <tgm4883> afidegnum: one might argue that is worse than just getting into the computer with your face
[23:18] <genii> If you have a photo of yourself on your desk anyone could use it to get in
[23:18] <tgm4883> afidegnum: IMO tweaking the sudo timeout would be a better solution
[23:19] <tgm4883> genii: +1
[23:19] <MiningMarsh> The biggest issue with stuff like facial recognition is false positives
[23:19] <MiningMarsh> find someone with a mostly similair face and you are screwed
[23:19] <tgm4883> MiningMarsh: or someone with a halfway decent camera and a printer
[23:19] <afidegnum> sorry iidn't get the last message
[23:19] <afidegnum> do you have a log?
[23:20] <tgm4883> afidegnum: the biggest problem with facial recognition for  your password is that it's public information
[23:20] <MiningMarsh> tgm4883: or if they are desperate, just grab your laptop and run straight up to you
[23:20] <afidegnum> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[23:21] <afidegnum> that's crazy
[23:21] <tgm4883> MiningMarsh: although facial recognition would defeat this sort of hackery https://xkcd.com/538/ (provided they hit you in the face)
[23:22] <afidegnum> well, i remember the issue of German Chancelor where her fingerprint was recognized from a distance,
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: which part? If they have your laptop it would be pretty easy for them to defeat the facial recognition
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: from a photo IIRC
[23:22] <tgm4883> afidegnum: which is generally the issue with biometrics, it's pretty much public information
[23:22] <afidegnum> yes, i see the point now,
[23:23] <tgm4883> afidegnum: and thus, should not be used as  a password
[23:29] <Bassem> can i change the place of the x button from left to right?
[23:30] <k1l> Bassem: not on unity
[23:30] <neonixcoder> Good day team..
[23:31] <OerHeks> Bassem, No, it is hardcoded, even unity-tweak does not work
[23:31] <neonixcoder> I am having issue with my pptp vpn connection issue..
[23:31] <Bassem> can i change the clock to bottom
[23:32] <k1l> Bassem: no.
[23:32] <OerHeks> Kubuntu has that
[23:33] <myztic> one of those fancy flashy unnecessary and insecure things
[23:33] <myztic> (facial recognition I mean)
[23:33] <Bassem> how can i add a third party repository to keep youtube-dl updated
[23:33] <neonixcoder> Can any one through some light on issue I am facing http://pastebin.com/xmUsQ1gN
[23:33] <k1l> Bassem: use another desktop then. like xubuntu or lubuntu or kubuntu, or ubuntu mate....
[23:33] <neonixcoder> My VPN is connected after multiple tries, I am  not sure what is happening..
[23:34] <neonixcoder> I check GRP packets flow with tcpdump, which is working fine.
[23:34] <Bassem> k1l, can i use it on ubuntu?
[23:34] <neonixcoder> Any suggetions?
[23:34] <k1l> Bassem: yes, you can install those other desktops ontop of ubuntu
[23:35] <tlt> Bassem, yeah you can migrate to KDE, etc, from an ordinary Ubuntu installation.
[23:35] <Bassem> how can i select the desktop i like and how can i migrate it
[23:37] <k1l> Bassem: install the *-desktop package you like and switch on the login screen
[23:37] <OerHeks> i would install any desktop side-by-side, not mixing software and home and such. to get the best experience.
[23:38] <Bassem> k1l, how?
[23:39] <k1l> Bassem: which desktop do you want to install?
[23:40] <Bassem> dont know where can i find desktop distribution to select
[23:40] <k1l> Bassem: first you need to know which desktop you would like to install
[23:41] <k1l> Bassem: ubuntu offers nearly all desktops available for linux
[23:41] <Bassem> k1l, how where can i look for different desktop
[23:41] <Guest30_> Hi
[23:41] <k1l> Bassem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[23:42] <OerHeks> !desktop
[23:58] <winb> Hi guys, I am having problem upgrading adb version to 1.0.32. Anyone know?