[10:19] <sakrecoer_> looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-icon-theme/+bug/1378998
[10:20] <sakrecoer_> does it have to be png? or is svg ok too?
[11:16] <sakrecoer_> i made svg icons for hexter and hdspmixer... hexter is vectorial, hdsp has embedded png fitting in the document's boundaries is 128x128 px... do i proceed like the manualtest case: upload to my branch and link it to the bug? should i put them in a folder next to the folder containing present icons, but named 128?
[11:24] <sakrecoer_> actualy, the hdsp one i have to work more on, it gets ugly at 24x24
[11:39] <flocculant> audacity testcase exists - I fixed that and moved it to studio 
[14:59] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: have you tested your new icons in place?
[15:03] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: not sure how to do it the "real" way, but i have tested it in gimp... hexter works fine. but hdsp needs to be sortof... "reinvented" because it doesn't work at all in 24x24
[15:04] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: you need to replace the ones in /usr/share/icones/hicolor/<size>/apps/ I think.
[15:04] <sakrecoer_> looks more like a glitch then a mixer in small size
[15:05] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: will it accept .svg?
[15:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: should
[15:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: I have used svgs before.
[15:05] <sakrecoer_> ok.. i will try that :)
[15:06] <OvenWerks> for hdsp maybe we should just link to the ALSA icon.
[15:06] <sakrecoer_> writing a testcase for phatch,,, but it seems to be broken in my dev install...
[15:06] <sakrecoer_> if it is possible to use alsa icon, it is a good sollution 
[15:06] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: I don't know how to use it... or why I would use it even :)
[15:07] <sakrecoer_> its a batch processor for GUI folks..
[15:08] <sakrecoer_> you can apply filters, transformations, export to other formats in a stack of processes...
[15:08] <sakrecoer_> pretty handy and powerfull app..
[15:12] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: sounds like it.
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> but its very much dead in the dev branch.. :(
[15:13] <OvenWerks> I can't find the ALSA icon...
[15:16] <OvenWerks> /usr/share/pixmaps  :P
[15:16] <sakrecoer_> xpm...? :) never seen that format before.
[15:17] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: the ultimate fall back.
[15:17] <OvenWerks> It was the standard mid 90s
[15:17] <sakrecoer_> "the ultimate fall back" xpm? or alsa icon for hdsp?
[15:17] <sakrecoer_> ok!
[15:17] <sakrecoer_> :)
[15:18] <sakrecoer_> strange that sudo find / -iname '*alsa*'
[15:18] <sakrecoer_> will not find that icon
[15:19] <OvenWerks> alsa-tools.xpm
[15:20] <sakrecoer_> yeah... the wildcard should include it... but its like find didn't even look inside /usr/
[15:21] <OvenWerks> The menu (and other apps) use a search pattern to find icons. I think that /usr/share/pixmaps/ is the last on the list, after going through the icon theme.
[15:21] <sakrecoer_> it does if i use find /usr/ -iname '*alsa*'
[15:22] <sakrecoer_> oh... strange... after searching with find in /usr/ it will include it if i search /
[15:22] <sakrecoer_> sorry... ok... 
[15:33] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: i'll draw a mixer in svg :)
[15:33] <OvenWerks> :)
[15:34] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: it would not hurt to have a nicer looking icon for all Alsa.
[15:34] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: the one for FFADO mixer is not very nice either.
[15:35] <sakrecoer_> yeah... i'lll try to make a little mixer to which it is possible to append a symbol
[15:36] <sakrecoer_> but right now i'm looking into filing a bug repport for phatch, but i can't find the dev branch. i wonder if its broken in 15.10 too...
[16:08] <sakrecoer_> can i use apport to file a bug for phatch in dev-branch?
[16:18] <sakrecoer_> well... i hope i did this right https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phatch/+bug/1527314
[17:29] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: is the smallest icon size 24x24 or 32x32?
[17:31] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: it depends...
[17:31] <sakrecoer_> in the ubuntustudio menu?
[17:32] <sakrecoer_> when i measure a workflow icon i get 16x16
[17:32] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: :)
[17:33] <OvenWerks> There is actually a 14x14 folder as well, but I don't think it gets used.
[17:33] <sakrecoer_> i found this super cool thing in this case: http://goinkscape.com/use-blender-freestyle-to-export-svg-artwork/
[17:34] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: The reason I am not sure is that it appears we are going to whisker menu which does tend to bigger icons (as installed).
[17:34] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: However, right click on open desktop uses the small icons.
[17:35] <sakrecoer_> ok! :) i've been working on making them fit to 24x24...
[17:35] <OvenWerks> the pannel row size is set to 24 pixels
[17:35] <sakrecoer_> if it is svg, and they work in 24x24 they definitly work in bigger...
[17:36] <OvenWerks> The icons in the pannel look like they just fit and they are the same size as the menu icons so they are either 24 or 22.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: it is hard to tell if there is a pixel between the icon and the edge of the panel... and if there is
[17:39] <OvenWerks> is that the panel border, or the icon having space in the icon itself.
[17:41] <sakrecoer_> if i reduce the panel to 24 pixels, there are 3 pixels on each side of the icons so they are probably ~18 px wide..
[17:44] <sakrecoer_> i'öö use 18 as minimum then... if it works at 18, it should even work at 14 anyways..
[17:44] <sakrecoer_> *i'll
[17:56] <sakrecoer_> ok 16px is better average
[17:56] <sakrecoer_> but its super hard! :D
[18:51] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: system says phtach-cli is already newest verison, but when i try it, it says "command not found"
[18:52] <sakrecoer_> phatch even.. (i spelled right when i tried)
[18:52] <OvenWerks> there is no phatch-cli. But I am having trouble getting it to work in 1404.
[18:53] <OvenWerks> running phatch -c should be cli
[18:53] <sakrecoer_> phatch -c returns nothing
[18:54] <sakrecoer_> phatch -c path/to/picture/folder gave me:
[18:54] <sakrecoer_> /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2/wx/_core.py:8196: GtkWarning: gtk_disable_setlocale() must be called before gtk_init() return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs)
[18:55] <sakrecoer_> phatch -c pathto/specificfile.jpg gave:
[18:55] <sakrecoer_> /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/wx-3.0-gtk2/wx/_core.py:8196: GtkWarning: gtk_disable_setlocale() must be called before gtk_init() return _core_.PyApp__BootstrapApp(*args, **kwargs)
[19:00] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: let me dig into their online doc for you. to find how to make an actionlist
[19:01] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: found this: http://photobatch.wikidot.com/writing-actions
[19:01] <sakrecoer_> i'm very unfamiliar with python :(
[19:02] <OvenWerks> I've got one that says it did something... but I can't find the output
[19:03] <sakrecoer_> i read somewhere a warning saying "so not forget to add a save action"...
[19:03] <sakrecoer_> *do not forget..
[19:03] <OvenWerks> Ya, but it is not clear if I have that right... 
[19:05] <sakrecoer_> hmm... /usr/[local/]lib/python2.x/site-packages/ is empty in xenial
[19:05] <sakrecoer_> so is /home/set/.local/share/phatch/actions/
[19:08] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_:  http://pastebin.com/EnUfWpxV this is an action file
[19:08] <OvenWerks> save it to test.phatch
[19:08] <OvenWerks> put it in a temporary folder with some pictures
[19:09] <OvenWerks> The commandline I used was:phatch -c -v -k ./test.phatch *
[19:09] <OvenWerks> go down one folder and look for another folder with the same name as the temp folder but with *-phatch
[19:10] <OvenWerks> *_phatch
[19:10] <sakrecoer_> it worked!
[19:11] <sakrecoer_> i put it in ~/Desktop/phatch/ which contains images
[19:11] <OvenWerks> All the new pictures should be tilted.
[19:11] <sakrecoer_> it created ~/Desktop/phatch_patch/ renamed the files sequencialy and made them into png
[19:11] <sakrecoer_> no converstion sorry
[19:12] <OvenWerks> (to the left)
[19:12] <sakrecoer_> it renamed them yes... Image001, Image002, etc
[19:12] <sakrecoer_> they are tilted!
[19:12] <sakrecoer_> so could it be that we just miss the action files?
[19:13] <OvenWerks> No, I made that one up using the GUI
[19:13] <OvenWerks> They can be hand made of course...
[19:14] <sakrecoer_> the gui in 14.04?
[19:14] <OvenWerks> yes.
[19:14] <sakrecoer_> ok... because there seem to be 0 action files in xenial
[19:14] <sakrecoer_> and normaly, phatch has built-in actions...
[19:14] <sakrecoer_> with settings and stuff
[19:14] <OvenWerks> there are none here either.
[19:15] <sakrecoer_> ok... i see what you mean, but you cam create them with the GUI
[19:15] <sakrecoer_> ?
[19:15] <sakrecoer_> yeah, well thats waht you wrote.. sorry
[19:16] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: it may be that these actions I have here are saved as file and just dropped in place... but I don't think so, because I can edit the actions.
[19:16] <sakrecoer_> what do you have in /usr/[local/]lib/python2.x/site-packages/phatch/actions/ ?
[19:16] <sakrecoer_> and ~/.local/share/phatch/actions/ ?
[19:19] <OvenWerks> I have nothing in either place
[19:21] <sakrecoer_> weird..
[19:22] <OvenWerks> The cli version does not have list editing in it.
[19:23] <sakrecoer_> http://photobatch.wikidot.com/interface#toc36 but it doesn't say where to store them...
[19:23] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: I think it may be worth keeping in... at least the cli version for those who have some action list already.
[19:24] <sakrecoer_> defenitly! :)
[19:26] <sakrecoer_> i will add a comment to the bug repport specifying that it only affects GUI version
[19:34] <sakrecoer_> anyways, thanks a million for looking in to it OvenWerks !!