/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/12/18/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

pauljwhi everyone00:18
Bashing-omGnite all, do this once more tomorrow .02:57
SeriouslyLaughanyone know what happened to daftykins? haven't seen him around lately04:49
daftykinsmmm rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated ;)08:53
daftykinsmorning team o/08:53
EriC^^morning :)08:53
daftykinsoy, i just walked a mile carrying my sub to a repair shop08:54
daftykinsmy arms feel like snapped elastic bands :P08:54
EriC^^lol08:54
daftykinsi was at my old college gathering last night, christmas time event... my old lecturer i used to teach with asked me if i'd be a part time technician looking after the IT lecturing staff's virtualisation server, a pretty beefy box that runs Microsoft's Hyper-V =08:59
daftykins-=08:59
TarminquayHello.08:59
daftykinsi'm not fond of the tech but it could be fun09:00
TarminquayWill I be enjoying my Ubuntu experience (Kubuntu) with an N3150 processor?09:00
EriC^^cool09:02
daftykinsstill not on topic :)09:10
n1ckyAre people really happy with the PPA model for bleeding edge / fringe software?09:54
n1ckyI'm coming from a year of using arch, back on ubuntu because so many times building some random software will give me a list of packages from apt, and using an LTS ubuntu is a good way to get consistent builds09:55
n1cky(for example, the chromium build chroot suggests using ubuntu and I've had problems in the past not using ubuntu)09:55
daftykinswhat are you trying to run newer versions of?09:55
n1ckyIt's not that I want to run newer versions of anything, I just build a good amount of software from source and I find it annoying that theres not a great way to register that into apt09:56
n1ckythe arch linux pkgbuild model is fantastic imo, I'm surprised there's not an analgous dpkg model09:57
daftykinsdoesn't 'check install' or some other action generate packages instead of just compile and install direct?09:58
n1ckyhey that's really nice10:01
n1ckythanks for that, i never knew about that10:01
daftykinsno problemo :)10:01
daftykinsi've no idea on its' efficacy first hand, but eh, see how it goes10:01
n1ckyi wanted to run neovim, for example, because I use some vim plugins that take advantage of the async it provides10:02
n1ckyand I'm just kind of skeptical of adding some random repository to my system10:02
daftykins*nod* it's a pain when only shifty PPAs are out there10:02
daftykinsi think i use one for makemkv on my HTPC :D10:02
n1ckySee take that as an example, I'm on my arch laptop right now, and `cower -s makemkv` searches the AUR for that package10:03
n1ckycower -d makemkv downloads the pkgbuild to ./makemkv10:04
lotuspsychjemorning guys10:04
lotuspsychjequick in and out today10:04
daftykins\o10:04
daftykinsheyup10:04
n1ckyi go into that directory, makepkg -s, which checks it out from source and packages it10:04
lotuspsychjehey daftykins :p10:04
n1ckyjust so nice.10:04
daftykinsn1cky: trouble with that is it's like gentoo no, relies on someone having updated a template for fetching and compiling a given version, no?10:05
daftykinslotuspsychje: been asked to manage a microsoft hyper-v server, ewww ;)10:06
lotuspsychjeouch10:06
lotuspsychjedaftykins: get alot of request lately dont you :p10:06
daftykinsindeed!10:06
lotuspsychjegood sign :p10:06
daftykinsran into another lecturer i used to teach with, he wants a part-timer to look after it10:06
daftykinswhen i used to teach i had to use it too, it was a mess ;)10:07
lotuspsychje:p10:07
daftykinssomeone in IT support had installed Windows to the RAID10 array and put the VM storage on a single disk, instead of the other way around >_<10:07
lotuspsychjewe still hunting for new house, where i can start the ubuntu shop10:07
daftykinsah har10:07
lotuspsychjedaftykins: is that the guy TJ- helped with all his ssd's?10:08
n1ckydaftykins: yeah10:08
daftykinslotuspsychje: the one i'm referring to? nah10:09
lotuspsychjekk10:09
lotuspsychjedaftykins: you dont see raid10 every day on irc thats why :p10:09
daftykins^_^10:09
daftykinsi play with RAID a lot <310:10
lotuspsychjenice to know, might come handy one day10:10
lotuspsychjedaftykins: desktops or servers?10:10
daftykinsalways file servers ja10:11
lotuspsychje:p10:11
daftykinswell i don't use Linux RAID setups at all really, or at least not to manage the RAID... mostly hardware controller based10:11
daftykinslike my lovely (but ageing) 3ware 9650SEs10:11
lotuspsychjenever did linux raid myself10:11
daftykinsjust bought an office 365 license for someone off amazon UK, got the license on her account immediately, hid the email so she doesn't know it's her christmas present... and then installed it on her christmas present MS Surface ;)10:12
lotuspsychjenice10:14
EriC^^morning lotuspsychje10:14
lotuspsychjepersonally i dont liek those surfaces10:14
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: hey mate10:14
daftykinsno, like all tablets they're very toy like10:15
daftykinsit was nice seeing one in the flesh, but... yeah no, glad i originally swayed her off this and onto the Lenovo X1 Carbon instead10:15
lotuspsychjelenovo is nice10:15
lotuspsychjei wish i could find cheap lenovo or hp barebones for my business10:16
lotuspsychjebut ordering one by one is hard to find10:18
daftykinsLenovo have lost favour with a lot of folk due to all the things they've been doing to their systems10:20
lotuspsychjebbl dinner have a nice one10:39
BluesKajHowdy all12:18
TarminquayIs there a sleep finctiom in ubintu?12:24
lotuspsychjeafternoon mates13:30
lotuspsychje!find amdgpu13:36
ubot5Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:13:36
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje14:19
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj14:19
slidinghornMy google fu is no match for TJ-'s "I actually know this stuff" fu....17:00
nicomachus^^17:01
TJ-LOL ... right ... now imagine the quantum of frustration I've suffered!17:01
* slidinghorn hears "shutdown...forcefully" and immediately thinks "...with a sledge hammer"17:45
daftykinsthat'll fix it for good.18:46
daftykinsevening all o/18:47
daftykinsmy my what an eventful day18:47
daftykinsTJ-: one sub carried a mile to a repair shop ;)18:47
nicomachusget those ipads taken care of?18:52
daftykinsoh man that was actually way harder than it should've been18:53
nicomachuslol18:53
daftykinsas i didn't have a laptop with me, due to carrying lots of networking tools for the day... i was first trying to download this app that lets you transfer photos over the same wifi network18:53
daftykinshit a brick wall as ipad #2 which was being sold (thus the reason for taking the pics off it) was tied to the owners father's Apple ID - and though he shared the password, the device then demanded to be 'unlocked' by his security questions being entered18:54
daftykinshe evidently didn't know or didn't fancy coughing those up, so i then had to cave and use someones laptop which i see iPads only allow read only access to the photos of, so i could put them on a flash drive but not onto the destination iPad18:54
daftykins(i wasn't willing to contaminate this persons laptop with iTunes)18:55
nicomachusgotta love Apple...18:55
daftykinsso then the ideal end would've been to factory reset the first iPad with the view for it to be given to the person it was sold to, but that too was locked down to the Apple ID before it could be reset, so i had to just give it back saying "you'll need to bend your dad's ear"18:55
daftykinsso he has to either follow instructions in an email or enter security question answers in order to hit factory reset, so it can be sold18:56
daftykinsquite the drama :D18:56
nicomachuswell you missed me spending 5-6 hours trouble-shooting a problem with Unity, only to find out the user had the Cairo-Dock DE selected from the login screen the whole time, instead of Unity.18:58
daftykins>_<19:00
daftykins#ubuntu would be ace without the users :)19:00
nicomachusshe was super nice, though... haha. it was her husband's PC and he had a stoke recently so had bad memory and couldn't remember what he did to mess up Unity.19:00
daftykinsah right19:01
daftykinshmm i might've encountered that one once before, she messages as he can't control his hands so well or speak or something19:01
nicomachusand I learned a few things along the way.19:01
daftykins\o/19:02
nicomachus*sigh*... "I need to install a program that I didn't even download!"20:56
daftykinso020:59
daftykinsforgot it was the weekend, HERE BE DRAGONS!20:59
* nicomachus bangs his head on the desk21:04
nicomachuswhoa. pastebin.ubuntu.com??21:07
daftykinsyou can increase your efficiency by using just 'paste :D21:09
daftykinsoops missing characters today, ah well i'm keeping you on your toes21:09
nicomachuspaste.ubuntu.com redirects now.21:11
daftykinshmm didn't have that here21:12
nicomachushmm... investigating.21:16
daftykinsyep the crazy folk are in full force, abandon ship!21:19
EriC^^lol21:20
EriC^^tux protect us21:20
daftykins:D21:21
daftykinsoh Tux, give us a shell that can weather these users21:21
nicomachusfrom #canonical-sysadmin:21:29
nicomachus15:29 <@neale> I didn't realize there was a paste.ubuntu.com21:29
nicomachuslol, wat?21:30
daftykinswell, that's the two of you assessed from a systems analyst point of view and efficiency increased by no longer typing 3 characters more... my invoice for 1,000 cookies is in the post21:32
daftykinsmy work here is done ¬_¬21:32
nicomachusthere goes that UK-exclusive emoticon.21:37
daftykinsthe whaaaa?21:38
nicomachusUS keyboards don't have that key. haha21:38
daftykinsoh yes :D21:38
nicomachuswell apparently there was a permanent redirect rule put in place in May 2015 to redirect paste.ubuntu.com to pastebin.ubuntu.com... I guess it was slow to catch.21:39
daftykinshrmm22:05
daftykinsfunky22:05
daftykinsalright, goodnight team o/22:05
nicomachusnight22:06
Bashing-omReady or not, here I come .22:26
nicomachusgood luck....22:26
OerHeksYes, lets turn up some music, baby22:27
Bashing-omRock And Roll !22:27
OerHeksRoll over Beethoven22:28
nicomachushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avM0qzEF5I22:29
Bashing-om" < sparqz> " has a failure to communicate ... in general !22:31
nicomachushe's sparky.22:32
nicomachusI made this for him: https://i.imgur.com/qbp4oLr.png22:36

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