[00:18] <pauljw> hi everyone
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Gnite all, do this once more tomorrow .
[04:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> anyone know what happened to daftykins? haven't seen him around lately
[08:53] <daftykins> mmm rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated ;)
[08:53] <daftykins> morning team o/
[08:53] <EriC^^> morning :)
[08:54] <daftykins> oy, i just walked a mile carrying my sub to a repair shop
[08:54] <daftykins> my arms feel like snapped elastic bands :P
[08:54] <EriC^^> lol
[08:59] <daftykins> i was at my old college gathering last night, christmas time event... my old lecturer i used to teach with asked me if i'd be a part time technician looking after the IT lecturing staff's virtualisation server, a pretty beefy box that runs Microsoft's Hyper-V =
[08:59] <daftykins> -=
[08:59] <Tarminquay> Hello.
[09:00] <daftykins> i'm not fond of the tech but it could be fun
[09:00] <Tarminquay> Will I be enjoying my Ubuntu experience (Kubuntu) with an N3150 processor?
[09:02] <EriC^^> cool
[09:10] <daftykins> still not on topic :)
[09:54] <n1cky> Are people really happy with the PPA model for bleeding edge / fringe software?
[09:55] <n1cky> I'm coming from a year of using arch, back on ubuntu because so many times building some random software will give me a list of packages from apt, and using an LTS ubuntu is a good way to get consistent builds
[09:55] <n1cky> (for example, the chromium build chroot suggests using ubuntu and I've had problems in the past not using ubuntu)
[09:55] <daftykins> what are you trying to run newer versions of?
[09:56] <n1cky> It's not that I want to run newer versions of anything, I just build a good amount of software from source and I find it annoying that theres not a great way to register that into apt
[09:57] <n1cky> the arch linux pkgbuild model is fantastic imo, I'm surprised there's not an analgous dpkg model
[09:58] <daftykins> doesn't 'check install' or some other action generate packages instead of just compile and install direct?
[10:01] <n1cky> hey that's really nice
[10:01] <n1cky> thanks for that, i never knew about that
[10:01] <daftykins> no problemo :)
[10:01] <daftykins> i've no idea on its' efficacy first hand, but eh, see how it goes
[10:02] <n1cky> i wanted to run neovim, for example, because I use some vim plugins that take advantage of the async it provides
[10:02] <n1cky> and I'm just kind of skeptical of adding some random repository to my system
[10:02] <daftykins> *nod* it's a pain when only shifty PPAs are out there
[10:02] <daftykins> i think i use one for makemkv on my HTPC :D
[10:03] <n1cky> See take that as an example, I'm on my arch laptop right now, and `cower -s makemkv` searches the AUR for that package
[10:04] <n1cky> cower -d makemkv downloads the pkgbuild to ./makemkv
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> quick in and out today
[10:04] <daftykins> \o
[10:04] <daftykins> heyup
[10:04] <n1cky> i go into that directory, makepkg -s, which checks it out from source and packages it
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins :p
[10:04] <n1cky> just so nice.
[10:05] <daftykins> n1cky: trouble with that is it's like gentoo no, relies on someone having updated a template for fetching and compiling a given version, no?
[10:06] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: been asked to manage a microsoft hyper-v server, ewww ;)
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: get alot of request lately dont you :p
[10:06] <daftykins> indeed!
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> good sign :p
[10:06] <daftykins> ran into another lecturer i used to teach with, he wants a part-timer to look after it
[10:07] <daftykins> when i used to teach i had to use it too, it was a mess ;)
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> :p
[10:07] <daftykins> someone in IT support had installed Windows to the RAID10 array and put the VM storage on a single disk, instead of the other way around >_<
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> we still hunting for new house, where i can start the ubuntu shop
[10:07] <daftykins> ah har
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: is that the guy TJ- helped with all his ssd's?
[10:08] <n1cky> daftykins: yeah
[10:09] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: the one i'm referring to? nah
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> kk
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you dont see raid10 every day on irc thats why :p
[10:09] <daftykins> ^_^
[10:10] <daftykins> i play with RAID a lot <3
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> nice to know, might come handy one day
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: desktops or servers?
[10:11] <daftykins> always file servers ja
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[10:11] <daftykins> well i don't use Linux RAID setups at all really, or at least not to manage the RAID... mostly hardware controller based
[10:11] <daftykins> like my lovely (but ageing) 3ware 9650SEs
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> never did linux raid myself
[10:12] <daftykins> just bought an office 365 license for someone off amazon UK, got the license on her account immediately, hid the email so she doesn't know it's her christmas present... and then installed it on her christmas present MS Surface ;)
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> nice
[10:14] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> personally i dont liek those surfaces
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hey mate
[10:15] <daftykins> no, like all tablets they're very toy like
[10:15] <daftykins> it was nice seeing one in the flesh, but... yeah no, glad i originally swayed her off this and onto the Lenovo X1 Carbon instead
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> lenovo is nice
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> i wish i could find cheap lenovo or hp barebones for my business
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> but ordering one by one is hard to find
[10:20] <daftykins> Lenovo have lost favour with a lot of folk due to all the things they've been doing to their systems
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> bbl dinner have a nice one
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:24] <Tarminquay> Is there a sleep finctiom in ubintu?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> afternoon mates
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> !find amdgpu
[14:19] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[17:00] <slidinghorn> My google fu is no match for TJ-'s "I actually know this stuff" fu....
[17:01] <nicomachus> ^^
[17:01] <TJ-> LOL ... right ... now imagine the quantum of frustration I've suffered!
[17:45]  * slidinghorn hears "shutdown...forcefully" and immediately thinks "...with a sledge hammer"
[18:46] <daftykins> that'll fix it for good.
[18:47] <daftykins> evening all o/
[18:47] <daftykins> my my what an eventful day
[18:47] <daftykins> TJ-: one sub carried a mile to a repair shop ;)
[18:52] <nicomachus> get those ipads taken care of?
[18:53] <daftykins> oh man that was actually way harder than it should've been
[18:53] <nicomachus> lol
[18:53] <daftykins> as i didn't have a laptop with me, due to carrying lots of networking tools for the day... i was first trying to download this app that lets you transfer photos over the same wifi network
[18:54] <daftykins> hit a brick wall as ipad #2 which was being sold (thus the reason for taking the pics off it) was tied to the owners father's Apple ID - and though he shared the password, the device then demanded to be 'unlocked' by his security questions being entered
[18:54] <daftykins> he evidently didn't know or didn't fancy coughing those up, so i then had to cave and use someones laptop which i see iPads only allow read only access to the photos of, so i could put them on a flash drive but not onto the destination iPad
[18:55] <daftykins> (i wasn't willing to contaminate this persons laptop with iTunes)
[18:55] <nicomachus> gotta love Apple...
[18:55] <daftykins> so then the ideal end would've been to factory reset the first iPad with the view for it to be given to the person it was sold to, but that too was locked down to the Apple ID before it could be reset, so i had to just give it back saying "you'll need to bend your dad's ear"
[18:56] <daftykins> so he has to either follow instructions in an email or enter security question answers in order to hit factory reset, so it can be sold
[18:56] <daftykins> quite the drama :D
[18:58] <nicomachus> well you missed me spending 5-6 hours trouble-shooting a problem with Unity, only to find out the user had the Cairo-Dock DE selected from the login screen the whole time, instead of Unity.
[19:00] <daftykins> >_<
[19:00] <daftykins> #ubuntu would be ace without the users :)
[19:00] <nicomachus> she was super nice, though... haha. it was her husband's PC and he had a stoke recently so had bad memory and couldn't remember what he did to mess up Unity.
[19:01] <daftykins> ah right
[19:01] <daftykins> hmm i might've encountered that one once before, she messages as he can't control his hands so well or speak or something
[19:01] <nicomachus> and I learned a few things along the way.
[19:02] <daftykins> \o/
[20:56] <nicomachus> *sigh*... "I need to install a program that I didn't even download!"
[20:59] <daftykins> o0
[20:59] <daftykins> forgot it was the weekend, HERE BE DRAGONS!
[21:04]  * nicomachus bangs his head on the desk
[21:07] <nicomachus> whoa. pastebin.ubuntu.com??
[21:09] <daftykins> you can increase your efficiency by using just 'paste :D
[21:09] <daftykins> oops missing characters today, ah well i'm keeping you on your toes
[21:11] <nicomachus> paste.ubuntu.com redirects now.
[21:12] <daftykins> hmm didn't have that here
[21:16] <nicomachus> hmm... investigating.
[21:19] <daftykins> yep the crazy folk are in full force, abandon ship!
[21:20] <EriC^^> lol
[21:20] <EriC^^> tux protect us
[21:21] <daftykins> :D
[21:21] <daftykins> oh Tux, give us a shell that can weather these users
[21:29] <nicomachus> from #canonical-sysadmin:
[21:29] <nicomachus> 15:29 <@neale> I didn't realize there was a paste.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <nicomachus> lol, wat?
[21:32] <daftykins> well, that's the two of you assessed from a systems analyst point of view and efficiency increased by no longer typing 3 characters more... my invoice for 1,000 cookies is in the post
[21:32] <daftykins> my work here is done ¬_¬
[21:37] <nicomachus> there goes that UK-exclusive emoticon.
[21:38] <daftykins> the whaaaa?
[21:38] <nicomachus> US keyboards don't have that key. haha
[21:38] <daftykins> oh yes :D
[21:39] <nicomachus> well apparently there was a permanent redirect rule put in place in May 2015 to redirect paste.ubuntu.com to pastebin.ubuntu.com... I guess it was slow to catch.
[22:05] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:05] <daftykins> funky
[22:05] <daftykins> alright, goodnight team o/
[22:06] <nicomachus> night
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Ready or not, here I come .
[22:26] <nicomachus> good luck....
[22:27] <OerHeks> Yes, lets turn up some music, baby
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Rock And Roll !
[22:28] <OerHeks> Roll over Beethoven
[22:29] <nicomachus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avM0qzEF5I
[22:31] <Bashing-om> " < sparqz> " has a failure to communicate ... in general !
[22:32] <nicomachus> he's sparky.
[22:36] <nicomachus> I made this for him: https://i.imgur.com/qbp4oLr.png