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nicomachus*sigh* https://imgur.com/ZIM3t6f02:40
Bashing-omnicomachus: ^ Sad, not at all a Christian attitude .02:42
nicomachusreported to #ubuntu-ops, but they must all be away because he's still in the channel.02:43
nicomachusnot quite sure what he's so upset about... never seen the user before.02:43
Bashing-ommaybe giving enough rope to hang his self ?02:48
nicomachusmaybe. he just quit though.02:48
TJ-seems like a gang of unusual attitudes all at the same time - provocateurs or coincidence02:53
nicomachusfriday night....02:54
nicomachuswell, in the states at lesat.02:54
nicomachusleast*02:54
Ben64they're the people who didn't get to see star wars02:54
nicomachusLOL02:54
TJ-I'll give them some USB packet analysis to keep them busy :)02:57
TJ-It's not 'Mint' but hey! they're part of the community so they won't mind :)02:57
TJ-oh, now its in -kernel02:58
nicomachushmmm... should I join to watch the struggle?02:58
TJ-no ones awake there, its mainly only the Canonical kernel team, and its winter break time now02:58
nicomachusCanonical team gets winter break? lucky...02:59
TJ-well, lots of folks are breaking for a long vacation02:59
nicomachusah.02:59
nicomachusthen again, I do get a week a half vacation starting Wednesday while I transition between jobs.03:00
TJ-Canonical is London based and generally adopts EU/UK holiday rules which means an allowance of at least 20 days a year03:00
TJ-plus the national days (bank holidays in the UK)03:01
TarminquayWhen's 15.11 being released?03:01
TJ-sorry, 28 not s003:01
Tarminquay15.10 is pretty old now.03:01
TJ-not 2003:01
nicomachusTarminquay: there is no 15.1103:02
nicomachusTJ-: what's the difference there?03:39
TJ-nicomachus: read it as dot, followed by not-dot, followed by anything (this prevents the copy following the ../ into the parent directory when doing recursive operations03:41
TJ-nicomachus: it doesn't deal with the files vs directories though - that needs 'find'03:41
nicomachusahhh I see. I didn't consider that it would catch ../ and go into the parent.03:42
Bashing-omGood nite .. I expect more fun tomorrow :)04:12
TarminquayWe need a version of Ubuntu. The 15.10 is getting obsolete.06:55
Ben64no07:05
slidinghorncan we ban taminqua from the channel? They only come in here to troll, it seems09:34
cfhowlettslidinghorn, send it to !ops09:34
cfhowlettslidinghorn, also: if using hexchat, you can personally ignore09:34
slidinghorni have irssi...i can...just figured it'd be for the good of everyone, lol09:35
lordievaderGood morning.10:18
BluesKajHiyas all13:23
OerHeksoh, our favorite troll bill gates is back, enjoy!14:11
BluesKajI see that OerHeks ..fun :-)14:15
OerHeksmeh .. ubuntu /n /l is not dutch14:16
* OerHeks fooly14:16
BluesKajwho cares if he's from china, does he think that gives him extra priveleges ? :-)14:16
OerHeksi thought to know he was trolling :-D14:17
OerHeksnervermind, i should finish my coffee, but i have walked my dog14:17
daftykinshi team o/16:33
* daftykins gets back to ripping Opera16:33
EriC^^lol16:34
daftykinswow, this disc has _one_ track16:34
daftykins55 mins 2216:34
EriC^^wow16:34
MonkeyDustwhich artist?16:35
daftykinsit's a 20 disc set of operas by Giacomo Puccini16:35
daftykinshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MPpSlU3QL._SY355_.jpg16:35
MonkeyDusthybryds, and steve reich make lo,g tracks, too16:35
MonkeyDustnong*16:35
MonkeyDustlong d'oh!16:36
daftykinsi do like me some post rock usually that goes quite long :)16:36
daftykinshaha here we go, it's an opera in one act16:36
daftykinsIl Trittico - Il Tabarro16:36
MonkeyDusthave you ever been to a live show?16:37
MonkeyDusti mean, an opera?16:38
daftykinsnah, these are a clients' sets i'm doing for him16:38
daftykinshe goes regularly with a friend in London from what i understand16:38
MonkeyDust!info mp3splt-gtk16:38
ubot5mp3splt-gtk (source: mp3splt-gtk): GTK interface to split MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files without reencoding. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-2ubuntu3 (vivid), package size 432 kB, installed size 1077 kB16:38
daftykinsi use FLAC :)16:39
MonkeyDustis better, lossless, like wav16:39
MonkeyDustand .tiff for pictures16:40
daftykinsmy angle is more that you only have to go from the discs once, then you can convert from there to anything else you might need, so still MP3 (V0) for mobile devices16:41
daftykinsgiven the cost of storage though, it makes sense to just do it once to FLAC then store the CDs :)16:41
MonkeyDust"a cunning plan"16:42
MonkeyDustthere, e17 DE in my VM16:44
TJ-time to upgrade to E20  :)16:45
MonkeyDustGermany is getting nervous... should I worry?16:46
MonkeyDustthe 'sanctions' sounds different when it's said by Germany16:46
OerHeksheh, Germany is giving arms to the Kurds, and Turkey bombs them... stupid nato fools16:47
OerHeksbut Germany closed all nuclear reactors, so i am more affraid of Belgium, MonkeyDust16:47
MonkeyDusttrue16:48
MonkeyDustwe always seem to need something to be afraid of... the communists, the cruise missiles, isis, refugees...16:49
OerHeksEutopia-disaster16:51
MonkeyDusti'm not agains 'Europe', but i'm against *this* 'Europe'16:55
MonkeyDustand i hate to say, but a war is needed to accomplish what they want to do with Europe... messing with borders etc16:56
=== EriC^^ is now known as heelflip
* OerHeks is now known as FakeSanta but also known as OerHeks17:23
daftykinstgm4883: o/17:36
OerHekstypical a "it is saturday and i am bored" issue > IISAIAB17:38
daftykinswhere? :)17:40
TJ-mmmm, fry-up time. Need a break17:48
TJ-if anyone sees "sasha_" in any of the channels, talking about a driver for the RTS5227/A for v3.19, can you point him to https://iam.tj/projects/misc/rts5227.tar.bz2 and tell him to view the README inside it for installation instructions.17:53
BluesKajTJ-, did a whois , he's logged in but not listing him in any channels17:57
TJ-hmm, I did and didn't see him18:02
TJ-sasha_: No such nick/channel18:02
TJ-the user I'm referring to is [sasha_] (~sasha@178.121.118.117) was realname18:03
TJ-I was advising on kernel module patching around 0400 UTC, was last on around 1300 UTC18:03
MonkeyDustsomeone remind me what i was doing18:19
daftykinsestablishing world peace, iirc18:19
MonkeyDustright18:19
OerHeksoh dear18:21
MonkeyDustthere's a reason why i use FF and not chromium, but i forget the reason18:22
phunyguySemiNus/ShadowM00n, the issue is there are usually close to 2000 users in that channel.  Best to keep it clear for support only.  ☺19:40
daftykins+119:41
SemiNusphunyguy, yep, I get the idea, it only sounds a little weird when there is a totally silent channel,  and a little life is coming up,  and then... ;-)19:41
SemiNusbut I totally accept it19:41
phunyguyyep, it's easy for one question to get lost in the joins/parts alone19:42
phunyguynevermind offtopic banter/discussion19:42
ShadowM00nI filtered those out so long ago I forgot they were a problem. good point.19:42
daftykinsthose of us who support folk, need to keep them on to know when our victims leave19:42
daftykinserr i mean helpees19:42
phunyguyhaaah19:43
SemiNuslooool19:43
SemiNushey guys, I remember when I was 15 years old,  I started using Linux19:43
SemiNusand I asked for help19:43
phunyguyCome join us in #ubuntu-offtopic as well.  We have cookies.19:43
SemiNusand they told me "rm -rf /" as root19:43
SemiNusand I did19:43
SemiNus:(19:43
phunyguyyeah don't mention that command here.  Straight path to the ban-wagon19:43
SemiNusthey found it funny.   As a matter of fact,  I learned to read before executing commands19:43
ShadowM00nisn't it impossible to nuke the system with that now?19:44
daftykinsnope19:44
phunyguyit totally still is.19:44
ShadowM00nhuh. I must not have tried hard enough.19:44
daftykinsit'd need sudo in ubuntu land of course ;)19:44
ShadowM00ncould've sworn when I did that in a vm it refused to do something.19:44
phunyguyyeah it needs root privs19:44
ShadowM00nthis was some time ago though, I may be entirely mistaken19:44
phunyguyalso it won't delete /proc, /dev etc19:45
phunyguybut the rest is gone :P19:45
phunyguyand it will inevitably get to a point where stuff starts to fai then you can't delete anyway.19:45
phunyguyfail*19:45
ShadowM00nI thought I saw some message telling me I was being naughty and then refusing to do it19:46
ShadowM00nI'll have to try again19:46
ShadowM00nah, there it is19:50
ShadowM00nit is dangerous to operate recursively on "/"19:51
ShadowM00nuse --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe19:51
phunyguyoh nice19:58
daftykinswhat version is that?20:00
ShadowM00n15.10, but I first saw that years ago20:01
daftykinsi wonder if the forkbomb is protected against yet :)20:01
ShadowM00nheh20:03
ShadowM00nI haven't tried!20:03
ShadowM00ncuriously enough, that system reboots cleanly when I switch to upstart. Guess that rules out a global bug, more or less.20:03
daftykinsno idea what you mean20:05
ShadowM00nnope, no protection against the classics20:05
ShadowM00ndaftykins: sorry, thinking out loud. I was in #ubuntu originally because upstart on my main machine causes said machine to hang during reboot20:06
ShadowM00nbut yeah, fork bombs are still a valid troll20:06
daftykinswow, finished the last opera disc rip... now i have 18GB of FLAC to transcode20:10
daftykins1 hour for a core 2 duo to convert ;)20:19
daftykinsBashing-om: o/20:22
daftykinsheh i'm going to throw that FLAC onto my desktop and see how the quad core likes it instead ;)20:23
daftykinsi think my i5 laptop would destroy everything else actually20:23
ShadowM00nnow I wish I had a huge file to feed to my 8-core20:23
daftykinssmells like AMD20:23
ShadowM00nguilty20:23
BluesKajdaftykins, converting flac to ?20:23
daftykinsmp3, the FLAC is for PC playback for the client, mp3 is for *groan* iPods20:24
ShadowM00nan appropriate reaction20:24
Bashing-omdaftykins: \o ... Saturdau, set for a wild ride ?20:25
daftykinssure am :)20:25
daftykinsok my desktop states 47 mins left compared to the server20:26
BluesKajcan't ipods run wav?20:26
daftykinsQ6600 vs. E675020:26
daftykinsi'm gonna get my laptop now and see by how much the i5 trounces those two20:28
BluesKajwhy lossy..oh well i'm an old audiophile who doesn't understand why mp3 is still used when we have so much mopre storage capacity that mp3 is no longer necessary20:28
BluesKajmore even'20:28
ShadowM00nmy audio player is only 8GB20:29
daftykinsBluesKaj: he's got a tiny 64GB player that's almost full for the travelling iPod now, the ones that stay beside his amps are classic models with plenty of space though20:30
BluesKajheh, guess I'm  a luddite, I still use cds in my vehicle, but i don't use 'phones or listen to music when I'm walking somewhere20:33
BluesKajcompression distortion still bothers my ears20:38
daftykinsi don't own a car, but if i'm in the mood for something i really like i might throw the FLAC on a device :)20:39
ShadowM00nI...literally can't tell the difference on a high-quality mp3 unless I have exceptionally bad speakers/headphones20:39
ShadowM00nor exceptionally good, depending on one's outlook, I guess20:39
BluesKajgood speakers show the difference, not bad ones20:39
ShadowM00nI'd like to think that my desktop's headset is fairly good, though admittedly sound hardware is something I haven't looked into much20:40
ShadowM00nnot sure where to start, honestly20:40
BluesKajthe source hardware and media used20:41
daftykinshaha, the software tries to run 4 threads on my laptop due to hyperthreading and so it talks 2hrs to do it instead of 40 mins on my really-quad core desktop20:42
daftykinsthat's amusing :>20:42
daftykinssorry folks but that mrsam is an asshole, regardless of language barrier.20:57
ShadowM00nhahaha20:57
ShadowM00nit's been popcorn.gif the whole time, for sure20:57
OerHeksasking in at least 2 channels, funny cross posters21:04
daftykinsmrsam is?21:04
OerHeksno, ablest21:04
daftykinsoh yeah, common criminal that one21:04
daftykinsrarely learns, too21:04
daftykinswhere's the other spot?21:05
OerHeks#u-o21:05
daftykinsah cheeky swine! doesn't he know that's offtopic? :D21:05
BluesKaj mrsam is in Iran21:05
daftykinsthat rhymes!21:05
OerHeksi might better watch a re-run of MIB II on tv21:05
daftykinsi don't think i ever saw beyond the first21:06
OerHeksi don't think there is a book of it21:06
ShadowM00nthere was a comic series21:08
ShadowM00nwhich was far more brutal and less Will Smith-y21:08
daftykinsall 993 converted, excellent - that'll be a fun gift come Monday21:23
nicomachusjust bought an old LED monitor from a thrift store and assumed that whatever market they used to write the price on the screen would come off easy... I was wrong. Any tips for getting this stuff off?21:36
TJ-nicomachus: IPA?21:48
nicomachuslike the beer?21:48
TJ-isoproyl alcohol, surgical spirit possibly21:49
OerHeksbutter21:49
TJ-isopropyl alcohol21:49
nicomachuslol ah. I called the store and they said to use a pencil eraser... that seems a bit risky.21:49
TJ-I wouldn't use anything abrasive21:50
TJ-IPA dissolves superglue it ought to work on permanent ink21:50
nicomachusokey doke21:50
nicomachusI've got some 9121:51
TJ-I use it routinely for all my electronics cleaning jobs21:51
nicomachusyea I usually use for internals21:51
nicomachusyep it's getting it. slowly.21:52
daftykinshmm perhaps IPA would be ok on my laptop screen too? so covered in muck yet some anti-static alcohol wipes had dried out :(21:52
TJ-provided its evaporated/cleaned before turning something on it should be fine. I find a mild washing detergent better for laptop screens for general dust/dirt build-up though21:53
daftykinshmm think i've only got the dilute-requiring all purpose cleaners21:54
daftykinsperhaps a big spray bottle with a tiny drop in then filled up with water would be a good supply21:54
TJ-'Fairy' liquid is what I'm talking about21:54
nicomachusthere we go, all clean.21:55
TJ-washing-up liquid21:55
nicomachusthanks TJ-21:55
daftykinsah-har i've plenty of that :>21:55
TJ-daftykins:  not enough to have it foam, just a few bubbles, warm water helps, too, dip clean lint-free cloth in it, squeeze out, then wipe the screen whilst it is horizontal and have a drying cloth to hand to ensure the liquid doesn't escape under the bezel21:56
TJ-And for your next challenge, remove each key and wash :)21:57
daftykinsi've done that a few times with my mechanical here21:57
daftykinsquite the undertaking!21:57
daftykinsthe laptop however, not sure that'd be wise21:57
TJ-yes, it rejuventates keyboards really well21:57
TJ-laptops are easier to clean I find because they use small cantilever clips and have silicon domes, no mechanical springs to catch as they fly around :)21:58
TJ-once you've figured out the which way to come in with the prising tool to pop the caps off they're pretty fast to strip21:59
TJ-and its far easier than reverse-engineering a Windows USB driver :)21:59
daftykinsthey do all have muck on every vertical side :(22:00
Bashing-omGonna go update 15.04 to 15.10 .. be back shortly .22:16
OerHekswait ...22:18
OerHeksoh22:18
* OerHeks facepalms and sits down22:18
daftykinsweird users.23:03
nicomachuss/weird/weekend/23:06
daftykins:D23:06
daftykinsinstall Windows through Ubuntu, good lord.23:07
nicomachusdo you ever wish you could have a tag on your username that just says "just trust me and do what I say"23:13
daftykinswell it'd be quickly ignored once i did something wrong :D23:14
nicomachuswell, probably could have predicted that would turn out as it did.23:40
daftykinsyip23:42
Bashing-omBack on ! On alternate installed system release upgrade to 15.10 went without a hitch or hickup . Smooth !23:45
daftykins^_^23:45
daftykinsgotta be honest i didn't expect it ;)23:45
Bashing-omThis ole hardware, I am impressd it even runs !23:46
nicomachusnon-LTS release on old hardware? You're a brave man23:46
TJ-huh?23:47
Bashing-omnicomachus: Oh ... just a 'testing' install ! .. my workhorse will remain as 14.04 for a bit yet !23:47

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