[00:10] <Klumsy> i can't see folders on this NTFS backup disk
[00:10] <Klumsy> i can see them perfectly in knoppix
[00:10] <Klumsy> is there something that i have to install to read old NTFS windows disks?
[00:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info ntfs-3g | Klumsy
[00:11] <frecel> TJ-: got it to work, thanks
[00:12] <Klumsy> well in lubuntu 14,04 it shows all my folders as inode/x-corrupted type
[00:21] <aizarry> how can i restart my apache2? i was following a tutorial and to restart a apache is systemct1 restart apache2 but it gives me error command not found btw im using ubuntu 15.10
[00:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> aizarry, that's systemctl with 'l' as in 'letter'
[00:22] <aizarry> oh okay thanks btw
[00:24] <Klumsy> ok, does anyone know why chromium has menus that are completely black?
[00:30] <vinicius1> exit
[00:31] <aizarry> how can i run php on nano im stuck hehe so i can go to myip/info.php sorry begginer here
[00:32] <nicomachus> aizarry: i
[00:32] <nicomachus> aizarry: nano myip/info.php
[00:34] <aizarry> how to save it?
[00:34] <aizarry> after i edited the info.php
[00:34] <dbarros> does windows create the EFI partition even AFTER a LINUX LVM in the beginning of the drive?
[00:35] <nicomachus> aizarry: the key shortcuts should be along the bottom. Save is Ctrl+O, then press enter. Then exit is Ctrl+X
[00:36] <aizarry> ohhh sorry i did'nt get the "^" thing hehe thank you
[00:36] <aizarry> didnt know it was ctrl
[00:36] <TJ-> dbarros: ask Windows :)
[00:37] <dbarros> TJ-: i did already but I will have to make VM experiments to see it
[00:37] <dbarros> TJ-: no one really knows
[00:37] <nicomachus> I disabled kernel upgrades on my HTPC a few months ago and cannot for the life of me remember how I did it, or figure out how to revert that...
[00:37] <TJ-> dbarros: I'd have thought as long as there are free partition entries, and space, it *ought* to, but Windows has always done stupid things with the boot-loader code
[00:38] <dbarros> TJ-: i've read stupid things like EFI partition needing to be the first, but the first will be linux /boot... and then LVM....
[00:38] <dbarros> TJ-: and then MS creates 3 additional partitions before C: - EFI + SYSRESERVED + MSR
[00:39] <oxudr> hello everyone, I got this error when trying to save a document in libre office: 'Error saving the document Untitled1:Object not accessible.The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient user rights' then I used gksudo to change permissions, but I cannot change them. they remain access-only, for whatever reason
[00:39] <holucon> kinda absurd dbarros
[00:39] <TJ-> dbarros: best I can find is https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd799232%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
[00:41] <TJ-> dbarros: which leads to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn640535%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#gpt_faq_what_in_esp
[00:42] <nicomachus> oxudr: may need to use chmod to make it writable.
[00:42] <dbarros> TJ-: I see that Will have to perform a windows installation first
[00:42] <dbarros> LOL
[00:43] <lyntoo> eurrkk... the feeling I have evertime I see the word winblow
[00:45] <oxudr> nicomachus, I am not familiar with its commands with three-digit numbers. but I seem to have solved it by saving the file in one folder up
[00:49] <zteam> Hi!
[00:49] <zteam> Is there any easy way to install Seamonkey on Ubuntu 15.10?
[00:49] <zteam> I can't find any repository for it?
[00:50] <MonkeyDust> !info seamonkey
[00:50] <nicomachus> zteam: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
[00:50] <k1l_> see the seamonkey page. its not included in the repos since 11.10
[00:51] <bazhang> !info enigmail
[00:54] <alex423> hello room
[00:55] <zteam> nicomachus, Yes I have downloaded the tar.gz file bit I'm missing these libs libxul.so:
[00:55] <zteam> libdbus-glib-1.so.
[00:55] <nicomachus> zteam: install them. :)
[00:56] <zteam> nicomachus, I can't find them in the repository?
[00:58] <k1l_> zteam: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libxul.so&searchon=contents
[00:58] <k1l_> zteam: read the documentation from seamonkey how to install it on ubuntu
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> zteam  some programs are not in the repos
[00:59] <k1l_> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey
[00:59] <nicomachus> I've got a machine with 14.04.3 installed, but it's still on the 3.13.0-54 kernel. It will not pull new kernel updates... and I can't figure out why. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14092804/
[01:00] <dbarros> does /boot need to be the first partition or can I let windows have 4 partitions before this one?
[01:00] <k1l_> nicomachus: you mean the 3.19 kernel?
[01:00] <nacc> nicomachus: you have to tell it to install the HWE kernel, iirc
[01:00] <LeviM> I have a USB Type C to DisplayPort adapter. It worked on the live USB but not after installing Ubuntu. How can I find out what driver I need for it?
[01:00] <nicomachus> I may have disabled those updates at one point because I had an older mobo that didn't like anything except for the 3.13.0-54 version, but I've put a new mobo in it now and don't remember what I did to disable.
[01:00] <nicomachus> k1l_: no. 3.13
[01:00] <nicomachus> k1l_: see that paste.
[01:00] <k1l_> nicomachus: run a "sudo apt update"
[01:01] <TJ-> nicomachus: did you remove "linux-image-generic" ?
[01:01] <nicomachus> k1l_: no change. dist-upgrade still finds nothing to upgrade.
[01:02] <k1l_> nicomachus: make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[01:02] <nicomachus> TJ-: from sources?
[01:02] <TJ-> nicomachus: the packages
[01:02] <nicomachus> ahhhh. there it is.
[01:02] <TJ-> nicomachus: they contain the 'Depends' on the latest kernel versions, so remove those, the kernel no longer updates
[01:03] <nicomachus> 3.13.0-74 is installing now. but it should be 3.19 no?
[01:03] <k1l_> image-generic is not 3.19. it will always be 3.13 on trusty.
[01:03] <nicomachus> ok.
[01:04] <TJ-> nicomachus: You'd want the lts-vivid HWE packages for 3.19
[01:04] <k1l_> you need the enablement stack packages for the 3.19 kernel (which are standard on a 14.04.3 install)
[01:04] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: " sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-74-generic " if you are not HWE enabled, you remain on the trusty stack . ( good !)
[01:04] <nicomachus> Ah. this was a 14.04.1 install originally, so that explains it.
[01:05] <zteam> MonkeyDust, Yes.... that's why I'm asking............
[01:05] <nicomachus> cool. now to reboot and see if this mobo throws a fit like the old one did.
[01:05] <janesmith> confused. Trying to figure out how to stop xscreensaver when watching hulu. I'm seeing comments about adding a line to ~/mplayer/some.config but I don't have mplayer installed. If hulu works without it, why would that be relevant?
[01:11] <MonkeyDust> janesmith  the comment was placed by someone who has mplayer installed and for whom this workaround works... so it's not for you... find another solution
[01:14] <aizarry> so after installing php mariadb apache, whre can i locate my folder like htdocs on mac? so i can create a new file to start web dev
[01:15] <zteam> k1l, thanks that was helpful :-)
[01:17] <jnagro> ahoy. i am on 15.10. just upgraded my kernel. now my machine wont mount my encrypted swap on boot.
[01:17] <zteam> ahhh, screw this!
[01:17] <LeviM> TJ-: Is there a way to know what drivers are *in use*? Basically I have a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter that works on my live USB but not after install. Need to figure out what I should install.
[01:18] <zteam> I can't get it to work
[01:18] <tlt> jnagro, you have to run mkswap on the correct swap inner partition
[01:18] <tlt> you only have to do it once
[01:19] <nicomachus> zteam: relax. deep breaths. what's the error?
[01:19] <tlt> make really sure you are operating on the right device though
[01:19] <jnagro> tlt: hmm thanks.
[01:19] <aizarry> so after installing php mariadb apache, whre can i locate my folder like htdocs on mac? so i can create a new file to start web dev
[01:19] <tlt> jnagro, don't run mkswap on something you don't perfectly know what is, it'll destroy what's there if so
[01:19] <jnagro> tlt: aye. wouldnt want that.
[01:21] <tlt> jnagro, just holler if you need any further help.
[01:21] <jnagro> tlt: thanks!
[01:22] <zteam> nicomachus, it still complains about those missing files
[01:22] <zteam> libxul.so:
[01:22] <zteam> libdbus-glib-1.so
[01:22] <jnagro> tlt: yeah actually. i see my encrypted root partition as /dev/mapper/sd6_crypt my swap is supposed to be sd5_crypt.
[01:22] <nicomachus> zteam: are you sure you downloaded the correct version of the tar from the seamonkey site?
[01:22] <jnagro> its listed in /etc/crypttab and fstab, but the device in /dev/mapper isnt there.
[01:23] <tlt> jnagro, but it's unmounted right?
[01:23] <jnagro> tlt: aye, it is.
[01:23] <TJ-> LeviM: it should show up (on the Live) using "lshw  -C display"
[01:23] <jnagro> yeah tlt lemme dig int.
[01:24] <TJ-> jnagro: does the entry in /etc/crypttab include "offset=..." in the options?
[01:24] <tlt> jnagro, cd to /dev/mapper
[01:25] <tlt> jnagro, and type ls -l
[01:25] <TJ-> jnagro: also, is the device identified by UUID or device node?
[01:25] <LeviM> TJ-: Thanks.
[01:26] <nicomachus> zteam: I just downloaded and installed in about 30 seconds following these instructions, from the Seamonkey page: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux
[01:26] <TJ-> tlt: FYI with encrypted swap devices you *don't* run mkswap, because that is done each time the device is created
[01:26] <jnagro> tlt, TJ- /dev/mapper just has 'control' and 'sda6_crypt' which is my root partition
[01:26] <jnagro> sda5_crypt is supposed to be my swap
[01:26] <TJ-> jnagro: show us the line from /etc/crypttab
[01:26] <zteam> nicomachus, well obiviosly not, I did download the ones for 32-bits Linux
[01:27] <jnagro> TJ- tlt sda5_crypt UUID=<the uid> none luks,swap,discard
[01:27] <hardlygreen> hi
[01:27] <tlt> TJ-, yeah except that the installer fails making it nine out of ten times
[01:27] <TJ-> jnagro: there's a relatively common issue with the device not using the 'offset=' but using UUID= device entity, which will fail on reboot
[01:27] <TJ-> jnagro: right, as I thought
[01:27] <zteam> nicomachus, I guess that was the problem, after downloading the 64-bit verion it worked perfectly, thanks mate :-)
[01:27] <tlt> so one has to manually, nine out of ten times
[01:27] <jnagro> darn. this was working until i just got the latest kernel update.
[01:27] <jnagro> TJ-, tlt it asks for the password once now, not twice. swap is lost.
[01:28] <TJ-> tlt: No, you've misunderstood. The *inner* swap is created by ecryptfs itself after it creates the encrypted device each boot.
[01:28] <TJ-> jnagro: Right, do you know which partition is assigned for the swap?
[01:28] <jnagro> TJ-, yes, /dev/sda5
[01:29] <TJ-> jnagro: OK... let's set it up correctly. first I need to confirm that is the correct partition so you don't wipe out something by mistake. Can you "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda* )"
[01:30] <tlt> um sha5 is usually the whole luks data area
[01:30] <tlt> *sda5
[01:30] <jnagro> TJ-, i'm fairly certain /dev/sda5 is the correct partition. i set it up manually since i'm still dualbooting osx from time to time
[01:30] <TJ-> jnagro: OK, but I'd like to see proof before I give you commands that will destroy data!
[01:30] <jnagro> looking at gparted its the correct size and the only filesystem listed as "unknown"
[01:31] <jnagro> TJ-, :-) kk one sec
[01:31] <tlt> jnagro, use the graphical disk command that comes with ubuntu also
[01:32] <tlt> and see what that says
[01:32] <x23> hello, i have some files *.mkv, i want watch on dvd player on my tv, what is the way for to do this?
[01:32] <jnagro> tlt TJ- http://pastebin.com/9F5GuGPk
[01:33] <nicomachus> x23: you could burn them to a DVD.
[01:33] <TJ-> jnagro: OK, I'll agree with you :)
[01:34] <Dylan____> Hey all
[01:34] <x23> nicomachus, I burned the files to a DVD, but there was nothing in the DVD player
[01:34] <TJ-> jnagro: can you "pastebinit <( grep sda5_crypt /etc/crypttab )" so I can know the original line
[01:35] <nicomachus> x23: ah, right. You'll have to convert that mkv file first, with a program like Devede
[01:35] <zteam> well time to go to sleep
[01:35] <zteam> cya guys
[01:35] <zteam> and gals
[01:35] <jnagro> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/fa1FWsFa
[01:36] <TJ-> jnagro: thanks.
[01:36] <TJ-> jnagro: where's the UUID? That's the bit I wanted :)
[01:36] <TJ-> jnagro: never mind, we'll just have to replace it!
[01:37] <TJ-> jnagro: "sudo mkswap /dev/sda5"
[01:38] <x23> nicomachus, I installed DeVeDe , * .mkv file each weighs about 900M after passing through one title DeVeDe weighs half DVD
[01:38] <jnagro> TJ-, done.
[01:39] <wareja_> wassup guys
[01:39] <TJ-> jnagro: " echo "sda5_crypt UUID=$(sudo blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/sda5) /dev/urandom luks,swap,discard,offset=8" | sudo tee -a /etc/crypttab "
[01:39] <nicomachus> x23: ok? sounds like it'll still fit on the DVD.
[01:40] <xcelq> wareja_: im just browsing yourself?
[01:40] <TJ-> jnagro: now, delete the original line /etc/crypttab for sda5_crypt
[01:40] <wareja_> how come?
[01:41] <jnagro> TJ-, this is the new line: http://pastebin.com/Z03iqXUs
[01:41] <TJ-> jnagro: the key part here is the addition of "offset=8" (sectors) because that prevents the creation of the encrypted device from over-writing the swap meta-data in the first 8 sectors of the partition, which is where the UUID is stored. Without that, when the encrypted device is created it overwrites the metadata and therefore subsequent boots can't find the device
[01:41] <jnagro> Ah hah.
[01:42] <TJ-> jnagro: you should now find it works with repeated boots as you'd expect
[01:42] <jnagro> TJ-, okay i'll give it a whirl
[01:42] <jnagro> TJ- tlt thanks. i'll be back in a moment.
[01:46] <jnagro> TJ-, tlt worked like a charm.
[01:46] <jnagro> makes complete sense.
[01:46] <jnagro> TJ-, so out of curiosity, why this hadnt happened yet... was it because i hadn't gone out to swap yet thus destroying the uuid?
[01:46] <jnagro> TJ-, or was it really related to the kernel upgrade?
[01:49] <sasha_> Can someone direct me how to install this driver without re-compiling the whole kernel? My current kernel is 3.19.0-32-generic, which I would like to keep rather than upgrade.   https://github.com/Xilinx/linux-xlnx/blob/master/drivers/mfd/rts5227.c
[01:49] <TJ-> jnagro: there was big bug that caused this, if you inherited a bad config it wouldn't get fixed automatically. bug 953875
[01:50] <jnagro> TJ-, ah gotcha. well, thanks for your help, much appreciated.
[02:05] <yigal> dang, I was hoping for some Ubuntu questions :(
[02:06] <nicomachus> yigal: they will come.
[02:06] <yigal> nicomachus: you are right, patience patience
[02:14] <Raath> hey, is there anyone who could help me?
[02:15] <yigal> maybe, but we are waiting and hope we can
[02:15] <Zelrik> no
[02:15] <nicomachus> !ask | Raath
[02:15] <yigal> Raath what's up?
[02:17] <Raath> I want to update to kernel 4.3.3 but I need to compile it + a couple of patches that are in the 4.4 upstream.  If I download and install the 4.3.3 .deb files everything is fine, but if I compile 4.3.3 and try to install those I have no network
[02:17] <Raath> lspci shows that the adapter is there but it isn't loading
[02:17] <Raath> this is for all network adapters.  I've tried to plug in a USB wifi and that won't load either
[02:17] <Raath> do I need to change something in the .config or add a make flag?
[02:18] <nicomachus> Raath: that's really a question for #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <nicomachus> are you running xenial?
[02:18] <yigal> Raath: odd, usually it's driver dependent
[02:18] <Raath> I'm on Mint 17.3
[02:18] <yigal> Raath: as opposed to all wireless nics
[02:18] <TJ-> Raath: have you tried installing the v4.4-rc5-wily kernel packages?
[02:18] <nicomachus> !mint | Raath
[02:18] <Raath> TJ-: yes but it borks cinamon completely.
[02:19] <TJ-> Raath: You'll need to talk to the mint support folks
[02:19] <Raath> there's nobody in that channel.  Well there is but nobody talks
[02:20] <Raath> might as well rename it linuxmorgue
[02:20] <TJ-> Raath: it's 2.20am
[02:20] <Raath> still early ;)
[02:20] <TJ-> Raath: for many people its start of their winter break, too
[02:20] <Koyaanis> i once killed a man
[02:21] <yigal> Koyaanis: That's not a question.
[02:22] <yigal> TJ-: here in the states it's ~6-9pm or so
[02:22] <TJ-> yigal: right, but Raath  is in the UK
[02:23] <Raath> I am :D
[02:23] <yigal> right, but irc isn't goecentric to the UK, so the idea of support at 2am GMT isn't really unrealistic
[02:23] <Octubre2> hello
[02:23] <yigal> imo
[02:24] <TJ-> yigal: I think you missed the subtle Brit irony in my voice ;)
[02:24] <Koyaanis> i killed a woman too
[02:24] <yigal> TJ-: love it, sorry irony is lost on us yanks I'm afraid
[02:24] <Raath> does anyone know how to get voice on ##linux?
[02:24] <nicomachus> Koyaanis: leave.
[02:25] <nicomachus> Raath: you may need to register if you aren't already
[02:25] <TJ-> Raath: probably you need to have a nickserv registered identity
[02:25] <Raath> I don't think my issue is neccisarily mint related
[02:25] <nicomachus> Raath: you can try ##kernel
[02:25] <Koyaanis> nicomachus: get a better name lol
[02:26] <sasha_> Does anyone here have instructions to create a kernel patch from a github driver file? Thanks.
[02:26] <rewimup> Raath: Its like ubuntu is getting more debian based rough around the edges. And MINT is the new ubuntu
[02:26] <yigal> Raath: the symptoms are rather general have you done basic kernel troubleshooting, i.e. look at logs?
[02:26] <Octubre2> I need 2 users, one for work and one for my time. But i want the same config for both users (keyboard shortcuts, default programs, etc) and share some items like music. Anybody know how can i copy the config from one user? or i have to do all step by step? u_u'
[02:27] <Raath> yigal: I have but they don't reveal anything network related
[02:27] <artois> Octubre2: mostly just rsync /home/user/ to /home/otheruser/ and chown
[02:27] <yigal> Raath: is the nic seen, just no network detected?
[02:27] <sasha_> I see there are patches created here, but I don't know how to use them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1153618
[02:27] <rewimup> Octubre2: maybe copy all hidden files in home folder
[02:27] <artois> Octubre2: the bulk of configs will be ~/.config and ~/.*
[02:28] <Raath> yigal: lspci sees it, but it's not shown under network configuration
[02:28] <Octubre2> but i don't want share ALL items in home, just the config and some
[02:28] <yigal> Raath: by networking configuration you mean 'sudo ip a'?
[02:28] <Raath> no.  That just shows the loopback
[02:29] <Octubre2> okey i will try thanks
[02:29] <Octubre2> 'rsync' the .config dir
[02:29] <yigal> Raath: ok, interesting
[02:29] <yigal> Raath: is there a wired NIC, an ethernet adapter on the device you are working on?
[02:29] <Raath> but if I download the .debs and use those rather than my own compiled ones the network works
[02:29] <Raath> yup.
[02:30] <rewimup> Octubre2: artois
[02:30] <yigal> Raath: ok, if there's a wired nic and that's not coming up with 'sudo ip a' then there's likely an issue with how you're compiling the kernel
[02:30] <Ben64> yigal: Raath: please keep mint support out of this channel
[02:30] <Octubre2> what rewimup
[02:30] <yigal> Ben64: :) understood
[02:30] <yigal> Raath: take this to #kernel
[02:30] <Raath> Ben64: this isn't mint.  it's kernel
[02:31] <nicomachus> Raath: regardless, it's not ubuntu.
[02:31] <Raath> true, but this is the only active linux channel around tonight :(
[02:31] <nicomachus> sorry.
[02:32] <Sammy_> so can anybody tell me if I'm really connected here with IPv6?
[02:32] <Octubre2> why i can see the items of another user in my system? thats not logic :/
[02:32] <Koyaanis> Sammy_ just whois yourself
[02:32] <Ben64> Sammy_: you aren't, and you should ask #freenode about irc stuff
[02:32] <Sammy_> I've been trying to get it working... but I'm running on a really old MIPsel device which I didn't think had Ipv6
[02:32] <Sammy_> ok
[02:32] <Sammy_> thx
[02:37] <sasha_> Ben64, Raath, yigal Kernel issues are ubuntu issues. Mint doesn't produce a kernel. Anyone seeking help for a kernel should be helped. It's ubuntu documentation.
[02:38] <rewimup> sasha_: okay
[02:39] <TJ-> sasha_: Incorrect. We only support Ubuntu releases, and we also do not support user-built kernels unless it is to fix an issue on an Ubuntu installation
[02:41] <plytro> Octubre2: because ubuntu defaults to wide open home directories
[02:41] <rewimup> sasha_: ha
[02:41] <plytro> and if they set permissions such or put things in shared locations without paying attention to permissions you can see them
[02:41] <plytro> I usually edit the default settings for new accounts to protect home directories
[02:44] <sasha_> TJ, That's  quite the restrictive policy there... So much for "community".
[02:45] <nicomachus> sasha_: the more lax community can be found at #ubuntu-offtopic. :)
[02:46] <fooperman> But that's still not a place to find support.
[02:46] <nicomachus> correct, because this is the place for Ubuntu support. there is a separate channel for Mint support, and #ubuntu-kernel, and ##kernel, and ##linux.
[02:47] <plytro> hey do you guys offer any support for ubuntu on a z series?
[02:48] <artois> plytro: hardware is fairly irrelevant
[02:48] <plytro> http://mainframeinsights.com/ubuntu-distribution-announced-for-linuxone-and-ibm-z-systems
[02:48] <yigal> plytro: note this is user to user support
[02:48] <plytro> I know
[02:48] <plytro> the z System support is only recently announced anyway
[02:48] <sasha_> nicomachus, I'm just surprised to see such up-tight statements, especially since the whole concept of ubuntu is sharing and community. Back a couple years ago when I ran manjaro, those guys were wonderfully pleasant and helpful. Yes, even when discussing slightly unrelated linux issues.
[02:49] <plytro> sasha_: they are pretty nazi-ish about only packages from official repos and such here
[02:49]  * tgm4883 sighs
[02:49] <tgm4883> plytro: and for good reason too
[02:50] <sasha_> plytro, Sad.
[02:50] <plytro> tgm4883: I never said I disagreed with the stance, just observation of it
[02:50] <Ben64> sasha_: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu, it's not difficult to understand
[02:50] <nicomachus> !ot | all other discussion besides support can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <fooperman> plytro: I'd recommend not using 'nazi' like that, 'strict' is a much better term.
[02:50] <tgm4883> plytro: calling us nazi's and distancing yourself from us feels pretty inflamatory
[02:50] <nicomachus> if you have problems with the guidelines, feel free to join #ubuntu-ops
[02:50] <sasha_> Have a good night folks. :)
[02:54] <Abe> hello
[02:54] <nicomachus> hello Abe
[02:55] <Abe> Hi nicomachus
[03:01] <LeviM> TJ-: So... the USB-C to DisplayPort not working on the Live USB anymore. The only things I can think of that are different is that I now have a different display at the other end of the cable, and that I no longer have a USB to Ethernet adapter also plugged in.
[03:02] <LeviM> Do these display to the OS as USB devices?
[03:02] <TJ-> LeviM: I'd have thought the adapter would show up without a monitor connected. Does the adapter show up on other systems/OSs ?
[03:02] <LeviM> TJ-: It didn't show up on Arch.
[03:03] <TJ-> LeviM: is it DisplayLink or DisplayPort ?
[03:03] <LeviM> USB-C to DisplayPort
[03:04] <LeviM> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/m5vJ6kUm/
[03:04] <LeviM> That's my lsusb output whether it is plugged in or not.
[03:05] <TJ-> LeviM: from what I understand, not all USB-C ports/controllers support video
[03:05] <LeviM> TJ-: This worked when I was at work briefly on a Live USB of Ubuntu 15.10.
[03:05] <LeviM> So it can't be that.
[03:05] <LeviM> I just unplugged everything and came home expecting that since it worked there I'd have no issues after install.
[03:06] <LeviM> I should quit making assumptions, I guess.
[03:06] <LeviM> :D
[03:08] <LeviM> This is the cable: https://www.visiontek.com/cables-accessories/for-pcs/visiontek-usb-3-1-type-c-to-displayport-adapter-detail.html
[03:09] <LeviM> Is it possible that the same driver that was working for the USB to Ethernet adapter was working to detect the other adpter?
[03:09] <nomic> why doesn't wireless detect on a laptop on xubuntu 15. but it does on xubuntu 14.04
[03:10] <nicomachus> nomic: could be a driver issue.
[03:10] <nomic> it doesn't recognise the pc wireless
[03:10] <nicomachus> nomic: what's the output of 'sudo lshw -C network'
[03:10] <TJ-> LeviM: "OS support: Microsoft® Windows® 8.1 32-bit, 8.1 64-bit, 8 32-bit, 8 64-bit, 7 32-bit, 7 64-bit, and MAC iOS compatible"
[03:11] <LeviM> Sure, sure, I understands that is what is says.
[03:11] <TJ-> LeviM: if the hardware isn't even being seen by the kernel there's something incompatible about the PC and that adapter
[03:11] <LeviM> I saw it work already though on the Ubuntu Desktop 15.10 iso.
[03:12] <TJ-> LeviM: had the PC been booted with Windows previously?
[03:12] <LeviM> I don't understand what would cause it to behave differently now.
[03:12] <LeviM> TJ-: Not a successful boot anyway.
[03:12] <nomic> http://pastebin.com/WCnkyGhD
[03:12] <nomic> nico
[03:12] <nomic> nicomachus,
[03:13] <nicomachus> nomic: do you have an internet connection on that machine now? ethernet?
[03:13] <TJ-> LeviM: some devices will be initialised by the Windows driver, and therefore a warm reboot will keep them working for Linux, but a cold boot fails because the firmware isn't loaded into them, or they're not correctly configured to respond
[03:13] <nomic> im using usb wireless key
[03:13] <nomic> slots in
[03:14] <nicomachus> nomic: ok, that works fine. 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source'
[03:14] <nomic> worked on 14.04
[03:14] <nicomachus> that should get you the drivers for you on-board broadcom
[03:14] <nomic> im upgrading to 15.04 for another reason
[03:14] <nomic> what does that do .. is that mean it supports my wireless with that kernel source installed .. then i reboot?
[03:15] <nomic> well im gonna do eet then reboot
[03:15] <nomic> is downloading it now .
[03:15] <nicomachus> nomic: it installs the drivers for your broadcom card. and then yes you'll likely need to reboot.
[03:15] <nomic> ok bye .. will report back kind sir
[03:15] <nicomachus> nomic: 15.04 is EOL in January, so you'll wanna update to 15.10 soon.
[03:15] <LeviM> TJ-:  I guess I'll wait until Monday and try it again with the USB to ethernet adapter also plugged in.
[03:16] <nomic> will it upgrade without a fresh install ie..  sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:16] <nomic> maybe
[03:16] <nomic> for some reason, my network ceqased to function with the lasest 200mb upgrade on 14.04
[03:16] <nicomachus> nomic: do-release-upgrade will upgrade it. :)
[03:16] <nomic> network/ (nfs) .. ssh ... no worky
[03:17] <torsion> I'm trying to install ubuntu without Unity or other desktops. I just want xorg and a simple window manager. But I'd like a login screen, too, so I installed lightdm, and holy fuck that installed unity and most everything.
[03:17] <torsion> why is lightdm tied to unity? This has to be a mistake.
[03:17] <nicomachus> !language | torsion
[03:19] <TJ-> torsion: by default apt will install the Recommends. use "apt-get --no-install-recommends lightdm" to avoid those. See "apt-cache depends lightdm" for the package list
[03:20] <torsion> TJ-: good to know, thanks
[03:23] <hachiari> hello, anybody using heidisql with playonlinux?
[03:24] <nomic> thanks nicomachus ... working now
[03:24] <nicomachus> nomic: \o/
[03:24] <anabain> Why can't I ls my /media harddisks rbind mounted via fstab on /bindmount/media ? fstab line is this:
[03:24] <nicomachus> nomic: again, keep in mind that 15.04 is on the verge of being unsupported. I highly recommend updating to 15.10 ASAP
[03:25] <anabain>  /media               /deuteros/media                               none   rbind           0       0
[03:25] <nomic> i said 15.04 .. its 15.10
[03:25] <nomic> whns that supported to
[03:25] <nicomachus> ha, oh you're fine then.
[03:25] <nomic> wth happened to my networking on 14.04 .. big upgrade .. stopped working
[03:25] <nicomachus> 15.10 is good until July.
[03:26] <Octubre2> how can I copy ALL  hide files to another dir? "cp -R ./.* /directory is not working..
[03:26] <nomic> then what
[03:26] <nicomachus> nomic: the next LTS release is 16.04, which comes out in April. It is supported for 5 years.
[03:27] <nomic> ok .. i always go to the lts
[03:27] <anabain> btw, I also have this, just in case:
[03:27] <anabain>  /home/joan           /deuteros/home_joan                           none   bind            0       0
[03:27] <nomic> been running xubuntu since 10.04 .. I am a veteran
[03:27] <nicomachus> nomic: it's a good way to go :)
[03:27] <nomic> cos I like xfce
[03:27] <nomic> thanks
[03:27] <nicomachus> np
[03:28] <nicomachus> Octubre2: because ./ is not a directory. are you trying to copy all of the hidden files out of your home folder?
[03:28] <Octubre2> yes nicomachus , i want to copy all hide items from my users to another user, because i want the same configurations
[03:29] <Octubre2> then i want to copy all hide dirs recursively, home to home
[03:29] <nicomachus> Octubre2: then write your regex as "~/.*" instead of "./.*" and it should work.
[03:29] <Octubre2> i go to try this trick
[03:29] <nicomachus> :) no trick, just proper formatting.
[03:30] <anabain> any ideas?
[03:31] <nicomachus> anabain: I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Can you state your question again all on one line, and put any pastes into a pastebin and then link the pastebin here?
[03:31] <anabain> ok
[03:33] <Octubre2> nicomachus, i used your formatting and it still working
[03:33] <Octubre2> :/
[03:33] <Octubre2> are you sure this is copy just the hide files?
[03:35] <anabain> nicomachus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14094182/
[03:37] <nicomachus> Octubre2: that should only files that start with a ".". it may take a while because there can be a lot of those.
[03:38] <anabain> nicomachus, under /media I have two hdds, among other stuff
[03:38] <Octubre2> nope nicomachus , it copy "." file too :S
[03:39] <Octubre2> i stopped and used the same comand adding --verbose param
[03:39] <nicomachus> anabain: does it give you an error when you try to use ls? or just no output?
[03:39] <Octubre2> and it was coping some movies frmo Download
[03:39] <anabain> no output, nicomachus
[03:39] <TJ-> Octubre2: nicomachus ""~/.[^.]*"
[03:40] <Octubre2> wut?
[03:40] <anabain> nicomachus, server box is 14.04, updated
[03:40] <TJ-> Octubre2: if you only want to copy directories, use "find ~ -type d -maxdepth 1 -name '.*'  "
[03:41] <Octubre2> i only want to copy recursively the Hide folders from my home
[03:45] <aizarry> installed ssh how can i edit my sshd_config cause when i open it up i can erate some lines
[03:45] <nicomachus> anabain: I'm checking around but I'm not sure what's going on there.
[03:45] <anabain> on the other hand, if I explicitly mount these two hdds on /etc/fstab then I can ls them. and the other stuff is also listed.
[03:46] <anabain> nicomachus, ^
[03:46] <TJ-> Octubre2:  so something like this maybe?  "cd ~; find . -type d -maxdepth 1 -name '.*' -exec cp -a {} /home/otheruser/{} \; "
[03:46] <aizarry> installed ssh how can i edit my sshd_config cause when i open it up i can erate some lines anyone can help?
[03:46] <Octubre2> TJ-, i don't know, this is so fucking complex for me xD
[03:47] <Octubre2> TJ-, now i will try to do this using nautilus because i'm frustrated yet haha
[03:48] <Octubre2> i don't understand your pro command TJ- xd
[03:48] <anabain> maybe any permissions problem, nicomachus? A few days ago, TJ- helped me with some issues regarding permissions on my boxes. Time ago I had chmoded 777 my home users...
[03:48] <nicomachus> Octubre2: language....
[03:52] <Octubre2> sorry sir
[03:53] <nicomachus> anabain: it could be permissions.
[03:55] <alwan> happy weekend folks
[03:56] <anabain> nicomachus, everything under /media has to be 777 root:root, right (except maybe particular users dirs)?
[03:56] <anabain> alwan, happy weekend
[03:56] <nicomachus> anabain: I'm sorry, I really don't know.
[03:56] <anabain> ok, nicomachus thanks anyway
[03:58] <anabain> TJ-, can you have a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14094182/   I was wondering if it has something to do with permissions... everything under /media has to be 777 root:root, right (except maybe particular users dirs)?
[04:00] <Dylan____> Hey guys im noticed that my mac doesnt charge to 100% anymore
[04:01] <Dylan____> It only charges up to 84%
[04:01] <Dylan____> And it says charged
[04:01] <nomic> Dylan____,   maybe you need to get a new battery
[04:02] <nomic> batteries do wear out
[04:02] <nomic> in that -- it is only holding 84% of it's design charge
[04:08] <nicomachus> Dylan____: this is a known issue with macs running Ubuntu.
[04:08] <nicomachus> Dylan____: you need to calibrate the battery meter by letting it run out completely
[04:09] <nicomachus> then let it rest overnight or so, then recharge to full
[04:10] <nicomachus> Dylan____: I know it sounds crazy, but it works.
[04:10] <nicomachus> Dylan____: you can also install powertop for better battery management, etc. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro12-1/Wily
[04:10] <nicomachus> section 2.4
[04:11] <Omnipotent> On my ubuntu server, I have set local time zone to IST using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[04:11] <Omnipotent> but if I start a python django test server, it still uses the UTC
[04:12] <Omnipotent> (or maybe any other service too, I didn't check)
[04:12] <Omnipotent> any idea what I could do?
[04:15] <nicomachus> Omnipotent: did you restart cron?
[04:15] <Omnipotent> Umm no.
[04:15] <Omnipotent> How to?
[04:15] <Omnipotent> also why the cron?
[04:15] <nicomachus> /etc/init.d/cron stop
[04:15] <nicomachus> then /etc/init.d/cron start
[04:16] <nicomachus> Omnipotent: because your services won't pickup the time change until you restart cron. :)
[04:16] <nicomachus> Omnipotent: you could also do 'sudo service cron restart' instead
[04:17] <Omnipotent> nicomachus, did, but still no :(
[04:18] <Omnipotent> I restarted the django server instance as well
[04:18] <Omnipotent> after that
[04:18] <Omnipotent> still it's taking UTC.
[04:18] <nicomachus> Omnipotent: I was referencing this: http://www.christopherirish.com/2012/03/21/how-to-set-the-timezone-on-ubuntu-server/
[04:18] <nicomachus> you may also check with the guys at #ubuntu-server
[04:18] <nicomachus> I'm a desktop guy myself
[04:19] <Omnipotent> date command is giving me correct output though
[04:19] <Omnipotent> I wonder if it's service specific :\
[04:19] <nicomachus> I can't imagine it would be.
[04:25] <maxxxxx> alright so a friend loaned me a TB drive to backup can someone help me nuke and pave?
[04:26] <Omnipotent> It happened to be service specific, I've fixed it.
[04:26] <Omnipotent> Thanks for help nicomachus
[04:29] <dhunter> maxxxxx, more info?
[04:30] <maxxxxx> im on utopic and need to upgrade to wily
[04:30] <maxxxxx> at this point my os is so far gone i need to wipe and clean install and i need to know how to do it
[04:31] <maxxxxx> i have a usb stick i can format to bootable
[04:31] <maxxxxx> but if i boot from that with wily, is there an option to wipe?
[04:31] <alwan> yes it is <maxxxxx>
[04:32] <maxxxxx> to which part, alwan?
[04:32] <nicomachus> maxxxxx: it will ask you if you want to install along existing, or wipe existing and install new.
[04:33] <maxxxxx> nicomachus, thank you
[04:33] <maxxxxx> and then once i have it installed, how can i load everything back in from the backup?
[04:34] <nicomachus> just copy it back into your home folder.
[04:34] <maxxxxx> oh duh....
[04:34] <maxxxxx> thanks
[04:35] <dhunter> maxxxxx, well, what is so far gone.
 at Installation Type part
[04:36] <alwan> choose :
[04:36] <alwan> Erase everything and reinstall
[04:37] <alwan> look at this
[04:37] <alwan> https://imamindo.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ubuntu1110_004.png
[04:45] <Ky00> O>
[04:45] <Ky00> O:
[04:45] <dhunter> great advice?
[04:57] <dhunter> not a ubuntu guy. Are there any Channels better than this?
[04:57] <badomun> nickserv identify k09374ok
[04:58] <xangua> badabum badomun
[04:58] <dhunter> badomun, noooooice
[04:59] <badomun> good one
[04:59] <SonikkuAmerica> badomun: I hope you changed your pw
[05:00] <nicomachus> ha. change that password brooooo
[05:00] <nicomachus> and that, kids, is why SASL is a great feature!
[05:00] <tacocat_> I disabled the super key that opened the dash search menu, is there a simple way to re-enable it?
[05:01] <SonikkuAmerica> nicomachus: I know right?
[05:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Now back to your regular #ubuntu programming.
[05:01] <nicomachus> tacocat_: System Settings -> keyboard
[05:01] <dhunter> now known as "badomun"
 not a ubuntu guy. Are there any Channels better than this? <<< Are you using a supported release of Ubuntu (preferably with Unity)? If so, this is the place for support. See also !ot
[05:02] <nicomachus> dhunter: also, see !alis
[05:03] <tacocat_> nicomachus, what would it be labeled as :o?
[05:03] <nicomachus> tacocat_: you know... I'm looking now and don't see that in there.
[05:04] <Dylan____> Hmm im not sure if i can get a new battery for my old mac
[05:04] <Dylan____> Idk
[05:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Dylan____: Try ##mac (or, theoretically, ##hardware)
[05:04] <nicomachus> Dylan____: you don't need a new battery! did you see what I said about calibration?
[05:05] <dhunter> Dylan____, prolly get new laptop same price.
[05:05] <wafflejock> tacocat_: should be called "search" or "dash" you may need to use gconf-editor to change it or the compiz setting tool if you installed that
[05:05] <nicomachus> tacocat_: apparently Unity Tweak Tool has it under "additional"
[05:07] <tacocat_> nicomachus, thanks. wafflejock I believe I had installed compiz setting tool which automatically disabled that. Thanks I'll check it out if unity tweak tool dosn't work
[05:08] <tacocat_> nicomachus, only problem now is how do I set it to only super?
[05:08] <tacocat_> seems I need to add another key press as well
[05:09] <nicomachus> tacocat_: restore defaults?
[05:09] <nicomachus> worked for me.
[05:10] <tacocat_> nicomachus, well I completely missed that, thanks
[05:15] <testf> do the logs on this channel get indexed by google? There is a lot of wisdom here amidst the crap.
[05:15] <nicomachus> testf: yes.
[05:16] <nicomachus> well... maybe
[05:17] <testf> the way to check I guess is to use the site operator on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:20] <testf> anyway, if it is logging, here's something to follow up on the (don't go to this url) hidcptqmerifcusymaqddcomolsujibeptsmycmqsrwgrcmywshgnfpjhcc.com firefox redirect problem.
[05:21] <testf> I did a trusty reinstall - still had the problem
[05:21] <nicomachus> testf: stop pasting malware links!
[05:21] <testf> so, logically, the problem had to be upstream
[05:22] <testf> nicomachus, it's labelled. How else do I inform?
[05:23] <testf> it's not malware anyway, it's an ad redirector with really crap info on it on the web
[05:24] <testf> so, turns out the problem was the modem itself was infected, giving dubious dns.
[05:24] <nicomachus> testf: were you able to clean the modem?
[05:25] <testf> to fix it : settings->network -> dhcp for addresses only->set the dns to a fixed one like 8.8.8.8 (google's own) and similar
[05:27] <testf> I don't know enough about the modem. Some crappy MTNL (indian government service provider) modem from years ago. For the record, SAM300AX Sterlite
[05:27] <nicomachus> my personal suggest would be to format and re-load with OpenWRT, but that's not really a support topic here. :)
[05:27] <testf> what bugs me is how difficult it is to figure out the issue 'cos so many sites are blaring about removing firefox addons.
[05:28] <testf> and the way most people would solve it would be by adding adblock or similar
[05:28]  * testf checks if openwrt is possible on the MTNL p.o.s. modem
[05:31] <tacocat_> Did anyone ever have a problem getting unicode to display properly in terminal?
[05:32] <nicomachus> tacocat_: are you using some kinda crazy font?
[05:33] <tacocat_> nicomachus, just the default font on setup
[05:34] <testf> does adblock download the ads and then block it?
[05:34] <tacocat_> actually think I managed to get it working nvm sorry.
[05:34] <xangua> testf: no
[05:34] <testf> nicomachus, no openwrt for that sam300ax
[05:36] <testf> I can't access the sam300ax anyway - either mtnl is handling it or the adware overload is. I could reset it but then it is open to further abuse. So least harm seems to be let it be as is.
[05:37] <testf> s/overload/overlord/
[05:38] <testf> recommendation for a dsl modem/router that stays secure?
[05:39] <nicomachus> testf: try ##networking, they're some ok guys that know their stuff.
[05:41] <testf> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/10/01/hacked-routers-brazil-vb2012/    shows the same principle behind the attack I faced
[05:41] <testf> nicomachus, thanks, I'm off
[05:41] <nicomachus> good luck.
[05:47] <fullstack> 14.04 LTS server ISO? This is crazy the site is ridiclous
[05:48] <nicomachus> fullstack: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[05:48] <fullstack> hmm
[05:48] <fullstack> oh
[05:48] <fullstack> it "automatically" downloads
[05:48] <fullstack> what a craplot
[05:48] <nicomachus> wat
[05:48] <fullstack> I wanted a URL
[05:49] <Juggie> so click alternative downloads
[05:49] <Juggie> its not too crazy to imagine something will download when you click 'download'
[05:49] <fullstack> It doesn't, it downlaod when you go to the page
[05:50] <fullstack> Which I need to wget in a terminal for remote server
[05:50] <nicomachus> fullstack: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.3/ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[05:50] <fullstack> not download it here, 3000 miles away
[05:50] <fullstack> it is crazy to assume I want to use my browser to download by just going to a page.
[05:51] <fullstack> nicomachus, thanks
[05:51] <nicomachus> fullstack: well you could use the torrent and save everyone some bandwidth.
[05:51] <fullstack> It attaches google analytics on the filename
[05:51] <fullstack> ‘ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso?_ga=1.200199469.266025721.1450504048’
[06:14] <PacketCrypto> hi
[06:14] <PacketCrypto> support ##worldhacker.org
[06:23] <cdior> hey guys, maybe someone can help me. on a fresh debootstrapped system (armhf) with systemd installed the dbus daemon has some kind of problem and all systemd services are not responding (caused of dbus i guess). im getting timeout messages, but dbus is certainly running.
[06:23] <cdior> anyone got an idea
[06:40] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[06:41] <Dylan____> I got a macbook pro 2010 and i assume to reset the smc
[06:41] <Dylan____> You do shift ctrl option powerbutton?
[06:48] <awshelp> does bitcoin mining shorten hardware life?
[06:53] <LosPiolasMolesta> mos en paz
[06:53] <LosPiolasMolesta> holas
[06:53] <LosPiolasMolesta> alguien ay?
[06:54] <LosPiolasMolesta> eyyy
[06:54] <LosPiolasMolesta> ptas
[06:54] <LosPiolasMolesta> hello
[06:54] <LosPiolasMolesta> hello bitch
[07:06] <awshelp> what is dhcclient? and hsould i allow this process to listen?
[07:07] <Ben64> dhclient?
[07:07] <awshelp> yes
[07:07] <Ben64> its for dhcp
[07:07] <awshelp> shoudl i kill it?
[07:07] <Ben64> if you don't want dhcp i suppose
[07:08] <awshelp> also
[07:08] <awshelp> another process is listening
[07:08] <awshelp> on tcp6
[07:08] <awshelp> what is that
[07:08] <awshelp> i cant connect to it
[07:08] <Ben64> you'll need to provide more information
[07:08] <awshelp> znc
[07:09] <awshelp> tcp6       0      0 :::5000                 :::*                    LISTEN      1201/znc
[07:09] <awshelp> i cant connect to it by irc
[07:09] <awshelp> on port 5000
[07:11] <Ben64> do you not know what you're running on your own computer?
[07:11] <awshelp> what?
[07:12] <Ben64> you're running znc but you're asking what is it? suspicious
[07:12] <awshelp> i just configured it
[07:12] <awshelp> its not working
[07:12] <awshelp> asking u for help
[07:12] <awshelp> make sense?
[07:13] <Ben64> not at all. you're talking in sentence fragments, you never asked for help with znc, you asked about a process listening on a port
[07:14] <awshelp> im assuming thats where the problem is
[07:14] <awshelp> i cant connect to it
[07:35] <awshelp> sudo tar xf znc-latest.tar.gz
[07:36] <awshelp> sudo tar -xzvf znc-latest.tar.gz; cd znc*
[07:36] <awshelp> whih command is beytter
[07:36] <kadiro> hello, If someone know about the guy who created this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126258
[07:36] <awshelp> or whats the didfference?
[07:36] <tlt> why do you need sudo to unpack?
[07:36] <awshelp> following 2 guides
[07:36] <awshelp> which flags r better
[07:37] <tlt> how about apt-get install znc?
[07:37] <rww> they both do the same thing, with the exception that the second outputs a list of files it extracts
[07:37] <Mr_Cyclops> z = if the file is a gzip of the tar file, v = show command output in verbose mode
[07:37] <rww> the z is useless in GNU zip
[07:37] <rww> (it autodetects)
[07:37] <Mr_Cyclops> correct rww
[07:37] <awshelp> so choose first?
[07:37] <rww> sure, it doesn't matter
[07:37] <awshelp> ok thanks
[07:38] <Mr_Cyclops> awshelp, You can always check the man page of the command <man tar>
[07:38] <kadiro> hello, If someone know about the guy who created this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126258
[07:38] <awshelp> ok thanks
[07:39] <tlt> kadiro, it's better to write a summary here than expect people to click links all day long
[07:40] <kadiro> tlt:> what is summary?
[07:40] <Mr_Cyclops> yes kadiro . what exactly are you looking for? That's a huge page
[07:40] <tlt> kadiro, you type at least something to describe a link you're posting
[07:41] <kadiro> tlt and Mr_Cyclops I'm looking on how to use vdr with cccam or dvbapi witch i can't found in new release
[07:41] <tlt> ah good luck
[07:42] <kadiro> for that i'm looking for that guy in the link, i think he have a clue about what i'm looking to do
[07:43] <kadiro> is it clear or i must add more info?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> kadiro, see the date?  ubuntu 8.10? stale link
[07:44] <kadiro> cfhowlett:> yes, but no dvbapi or sc found officially, that what i'm not understanding
[07:44] <awshelp> adduser --disabled-password znc
[07:44] <awshelp> what is the password for this user
[07:44] <kadiro> If i can found a very old release can do that i will use it
[07:44] <awshelp> it iasks for a password when i su to it
[07:46] <tlt> that account is meant for the znc daemon to run under
[07:46] <tlt> it's not a user account
[07:46] <tlt> you config the znc through its console ///inline
[07:46] <awshelp> Now switch to znc.
[07:46] <awshelp> su znc -
[07:46] <awshelp> cd ~
[07:46] <awshelp> from the guide ^^^
[07:46] <awshelp> i get auth failure
[07:46] <awshelp> when i dont enter password
[07:48] <kadiro> can any one help me
[07:48] <awshelp> sudo su znc -
[07:48] <awshelp> i did this
[07:48] <Gallomimia> !ask | kadiro
[07:48] <awshelp> it works?
[07:48] <kadiro> Gallomimia:> I already ask
[07:49] <kadiro> at least how to contact that user
[07:50] <kadiro> name of this guy: art2003
[07:50] <kadiro> from that link
[07:50] <rww> kadiro: no, we don't know that person
[07:50] <kadiro> link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126258
[07:50] <rww> ubuntu land is a very big place.
[07:51] <tlt> 2003 would be a hint that the nickname is bygone by now
[07:51] <kadiro> or if any one know about vdr
[07:52] <kadiro> I'm searched from more then 3 month without success
[07:52] <tlt> don't search for art2003, it's obviously a very temporary nick
[07:52] <tlt> unless he's twelve of course
[07:53] <kadiro> I'm talking about vdr not that user, that the final search on google that only one know about vdr
[07:55] <PMT> did ubuntu just stop packaging linux-backports-modules or compat-drivers or compat-wireless or whatever the most recent name for it is
[07:56] <kadiro> that guy said (in that link above ): Contact me if you would like a dvd or download link of a restore image with vdr 1.7.15, mms and CCcam 2.1.4 fully working
[07:56] <tlt> then create a user on the forum, and, contact him through the forum mechanisms; kadiro
[07:57] <tlt> isn't that the easiest.
[08:00] <cfhowlett> kadiro, forums and irc have little if anything to do with each other.  see tlt's suggestion above.
[08:05] <awshelp> how do i change a user pass?
[08:08] <tlt> awshelp, man passwd
[08:08] <awshelp> huh?
[08:09] <tlt> type 'man passwd'
[08:09] <awshelp> doesnt work
[08:09] <awshelp> im loging in with a ppk pem file
[08:10] <awshelp> and want to change that password
[08:12] <awshelp> wow
[08:12] <awshelp> i am super pissed
[08:12] <awshelp> this is not working
[08:12] <awshelp> i just configured znc
[08:12] <awshelp> rebooted
[08:12] <awshelp> and it says config file is missing
[08:13] <tlt> that means both the guides you are following aren't any good
[08:13] <tlt> where are you reading them from?
[08:13] <tlt> a private shell provider?
[08:13] <cfhowlett> awshelp, stop narrating your steps and ease off the <enter> please.
[08:13] <tlt> get a real guide
[08:13] <awshelp> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[08:13] <awshelp> https://www.vultr.com/docs/install-and-setup-znc-on-ubuntu
[08:14] <awshelp> top hits on google
[08:14] <Skyrider> Is anyone familiar here with phpMemcachedAdmin?
[08:15] <tlt> Skyrider, go to #memcached
[08:15] <Skyrider>  I r sad now :(
[08:15] <awshelp> so what should i do
[08:15] <Skyrider> But finish.
[08:15] <Ben64> awshelp: why not "sudo apt-get install znc"
[08:15] <awshelp> i dont have any guide that walks me through that command
[08:15] <tlt> Ben64, I suggested that.
[08:16] <Ben64> tlt: i know, but it got ignored then
[08:16] <tlt> yup.
[08:16] <Ben64> step 1: "sudo apt-get install znc" step 2: you're done
[08:16] <awshelp> u serious
[08:16] <awshelp> dont i need to configure it
[08:17] <Skyrider> As far as I know, by launching znc for the first time, you get a text-config to fill in.
[08:17] <Skyrider> I think I compiled znc though, rather than installing it using apt-get.
[08:17] <awshelp> how do i run it on a non admin user?
[08:17] <Ben64> "znc"
[08:17] <awshelp> ?
[08:17] <Ben64> is how you run it
[08:18] <tlt> awshelp, apt-get install znc will set up all the prerequisites for you
[08:18] <awshelp> including the non admin daemon?
[08:18] <tlt> in terms of creating a znc user for itself, if applicable, and all the things like that
[08:19] <Skyrider> I'm running ZNC under the ZNC user.
[08:19] <Infamous> awshelp, service znc start
[08:19] <awshelp> ok third time
[08:19] <Skyrider> Dont need root to run it.
[08:19] <awshelp> lets hope this works
[08:19] <Skyrider> Then again, its not even adviced to run znc as a root/admin user.
[08:19] <Infamous> just make sure you add the user to the group
[08:19] <Infamous> will worth fine
[08:20] <awshelp> how?
[08:21] <Skyrider> Btw. isnt apt-get znc from ubuntu, oldish?
[08:21] <rww> no
[08:21] <rww> assuming you don't consider August "oldish"
[08:22] <awshelp> ok logging in
[08:22] <Skyrider> Mmhhh, maybe it has been updated back then.
[08:22] <Skyrider> O well
[08:22] <awshelp> first command
[08:22] <awshelp> sudo apt-get update
[08:22] <awshelp> correct?
[08:23] <awshelp> second command
[08:23] <awshelp> sudo apt-get install znc
[08:23] <awshelp> ?
[08:23] <tlt> yes
[08:23] <Skyrider> if you haven't updated the sources yet, yup.
[08:23] <awshelp> brand new instance
[08:23] <Borg> news for most linux users: grub2 vulnerable to 28 backspace depress to gain escalated privs into terminal.
[08:24] <Skyrider> http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon <- might be handy to read as well
[08:24] <tlt> old news Borg
[08:24] <Skyrider> Also, I very much dislike dreamhost for disabling sudo.
[08:24] <awshelp> ok whats next command?
[08:24] <tlt> Skyrider, use linode
[08:24] <awshelp> "znc"
[08:24] <awshelp> ?
[08:25] <Skyrider> if you launch znc, i'll set up the config under that specific username you are launching the cmd with.
[08:25] <awshelp> "znc"   or znc
[08:25] <awshelp> i dont want it to run on root
[08:25] <tlt> znc
[08:25] <awshelp> thanks
[08:25] <awshelp> so how do i make it run on non root
[08:25] <tlt> " " only means you should type what's within them
[08:25] <awshelp> i am a super noob btw
[08:25] <Skyrider> I'm not paying for the dreamhost hosting, just managing it..
[08:25] <Ben64> don't use sudo
[08:25] <Skyrider> still, removing sudo is a bad, bad idea for dreamhost.
[08:26] <awshelp> so i dont need to add a user?
[08:26] <awshelp> nonroot user
[08:26] <Skyrider> All depends on you awshelp.
[08:26] <Borg> tlt, ah. didn't know. I done' use linux really so, thought I would share and be helpful.
[08:26] <tlt> awshelp, ah you're root currently?
[08:26] <awshelp> i use sudo for root
[08:26] <awshelp> aws instance
[08:26] <awshelp> t2.micro
[08:26] <tlt> Borg, thanks for the concern
[08:26] <awshelp> ubuntu server
[08:26] <Skyrider> I prefer to have everything separated, so hence I created a znc user.
[08:27] <awshelp> i want this znc to auto launch on every reboot
[08:27] <awshelp> on a non root user
[08:27] <awshelp> how i do that?
[08:27] <Skyrider> check the link I gave you
[08:27] <Skyrider> http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon - has all the info in it.
[08:27] <Skyrider> be sure to read through it though.
[08:27] <tlt> awshelp, try reboot and see if not the znc daemon autostarts now at boot
[08:28] <Skyrider> apt-get zmc installs a auto-start daemon as well?
[08:28] <awshelp> i havent configured it yet
[08:29] <awshelp> ok so 1. i need to run this on a non root user, 2. i need it to auto start on boot
[08:29] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[08:29] <awshelp> this will start it on boot
[08:29] <awshelp> ?
[08:29] <Ben64> no
[08:29] <rww> no, that would make it run every 10 minutes
[08:30] <freeroute> hi, suppose I want to give a local domain name (like cabbage.carrot) to a local machine. Would the first part of this answer apply to me too? http://askubuntu.com/a/190954
[08:30] <awshelp> is this command permanent even if i reboot?
[08:30] <Skyrider> correction
[08:30] <freeroute> (14.04)
[08:30] <Skyrider> "This will check if ZNC is running every 10 minutes"
[08:30] <freeroute> (also is cabbage.carrot an FQDN or an unqualified one?)
[08:30] <notalentgeek> Hello, I am using Ubuntu Mate right now. How can I assign terminal command into keyboard shortcut like you can easily do in Unity?
[08:31] <awshelp> is this command permanent even if i reboot? can i change it to 1 minute and asuume it to be the boot daemon?
[08:31] <notalentgeek> I want to assign shutter -c to SHIFT + CTRL + A
[08:31] <Ben64> awshelp: what you posted isn't a command, and it will run it every x minutes, which is probably not what you want
[08:32] <awshelp> Ben64 but does that thing stick even after reboot?
[08:32] <Skyrider> Ben64 odd though that that cmd is suggested to use on the znc help page.
[08:32] <Skyrider> http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ#How_can_I_restart_ZNC_automatically_.28in_case_of_a_machine_reboot.2C_crash.2C_etc..29.3F
[08:32] <awshelp> yup^
[08:33] <awshelp> is that command a running process for only the current boot, or it stays afte reboot?
[08:33] <Ben64> meh i guess znc handles the multiple copies issue
[08:33] <rww> it's not a command, it's a line you add to crontab, and yes, it will not magically disappear upon reboot
[08:33] <Ben64> again, it isn't a command
[08:34] <awshelp> ok excellent
[08:34] <awshelp> soo i can change that to 1 minute and assume it to be the auto znc boot on reboot?
[08:34] <Ben64> 1 minute would probably be excessive
[08:34] <awshelp> whats the smallest number i can do
[08:35] <awshelp> that wouldnt be excessive
[08:35] <awshelp> and do i run that command as sudo?
[08:36] <KernelPanic_> can anyone help about kernel panic
[08:36] <awshelp> keeping in mind i still havent configured or launched znc yet
[08:36] <baizon> gg
[08:36] <baizon> sorry
[08:36] <Ben64> awshelp: have you read the readme
[08:36] <KernelPanic_> nooo
[08:36] <awshelp> Ben64 no my head hurts
[08:36] <awshelp> please help me
[08:36] <Ben64> then take a nap and try again when it doesn't
[08:37] <awshelp> i am almost done
[08:37] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[08:37] <KernelPanic_> hello is any ubuntu guru here
[08:37] <awshelp> do i sudo this command
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !ask | KernelPanic_
[08:37] <Ben64> it still isn't a command
[08:37] <awshelp> so just type it as is?
[08:37] <KernelPanic_> help about kernel panic
[08:38] <Ben64> awshelp: it is not a command, it's a cron entry
[08:38] <Mathisen> KernelPanic_, you need to tell more info... error msg,,, what have you done... and so on
[08:38] <tlt> KernelPanic_, ask away.
[08:38] <awshelp> yes i understand
[08:38] <cfhowlett> KernelPanic_, ?   Ms. Cleo isn't here.  TELL us your details
[08:38] <awshelp> should i type that cron entry after i configure znc or it doesnt matter?
[08:38] <awshelp> or before
[08:38] <Skyrider> Doesnt matter.
[08:38] <awshelp> thanks
[08:39] <Skyrider> Its merely an additional 'cron' job to run/check if znc is running or not.
[08:39] <Skyrider> However.. seeing you NEVER configured znc yet..
[08:39] <Skyrider> I suggest adding it after, not before.
[08:39] <KernelPanic_> i istalled ubuntu 15.04 on external hardisk
[08:39] <KernelPanic_> every thing istalled correctly
[08:40] <awshelp> how can i veryfy the cron entry has been added?
[08:40] <Skyrider> Speaking of which, I still should add a deamon/cron job myself for znc.
[08:40] <tlt> except the n key
[08:40] <KernelPanic_> after i reboot i getting error message like kernel panic
[08:40] <Ben64> awshelp: set up znc first
[08:40] <Mathisen> awshelp, sudo crontab -l
[08:40] <awshelp> i already added the cron entry
[08:40] <awshelp> am i screwed?
[08:40] <Ben64> Mathisen: no
[08:40] <Ben64> awshelp: why would you do that
[08:40] <Mathisen> Ben64, no ?
[08:41] <Ben64> Mathisen: no sudo
[08:41] <awshelp> i got cruious
[08:41] <Mathisen> does it now show the jobbs
[08:41] <awshelp> curious
[08:41] <tlt> KernelPanic_, does it say "not a 64 bit system" or something like that?
[08:41] <Ben64> awshelp: ok, good luck with all that
[08:41] <Skyrider> curious might get your entire system killed ^_^
[08:41] <Mathisen> otherwise you need use " crontab -u userName -l " right
[08:41] <awshelp> no crontab for root
[08:41] <Ben64> Mathisen: no
[08:41] <rww> or just crontab -l
[08:42] <Mathisen> my bad then sorry
[08:42] <awshelp> no crontab for ubuntu
[08:42] <awshelp> so it wasnt added?
[08:42] <Ben64> how did you add it
[08:42] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[08:42] <rww> why are you even adding that crontab when ubuntu manages znc as a service
[08:42] <awshelp> i just typed and hti enter
[08:42] <Ben64> awshelp: and what did it say after you did that
[08:42] <KernelPanic_> "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) " this is there the error what i see
[08:43] <awshelp> Ben64 nothing it went to the next line
[08:43] <Ben64> unlikely
[08:43] <Skyrider> err.. you can't just copy/paste the command line into terminal..
[08:43] <rww> why are you even adding that crontab when Ubuntu doesn't put znc in /usr/local/bin/znc
[08:43] <KernelPanic_> help me <tlt>
[08:43] <Skyrider> You need to add it as a cron job..
[08:44] <Ben64> but first, SET UP ZNC
[08:44] <Skyrider> ^
[08:44] <awshelp> ubuntu@xxx:~$ */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[08:44] <awshelp> ubuntu@xxx:~$
[08:44] <Ben64> you're trying to put gas into a non-existent electric car
[08:44] <awshelp> this means nothign happened?
[08:44] <Skyrider> ya, thats not working..
[08:44] <Skyrider> it is NOT a command line for terminal.
[08:44] <Skyrider> So ya, that doesnt work..
[08:44] <awshelp> wait i need to know if i screwed something up
[08:44] <Skyrider> And yes, nothing happened.
[08:44] <awshelp> im going to format and restart the instance
[08:44] <Skyrider> why...
[08:44] <awshelp> for sure nothing happneed?
[08:45] <Skyrider> Nothing did happen, seeing that cmd line didn't do anything.
[08:45] <Ben64> do you really need znc?
[08:45] <Skyrider> as far as I know, anyway.
[08:45] <awshelp> yes
[08:45] <awshelp> i got ddosed the other day
[08:45] <awshelp> in #freenode
[08:45] <Ben64> and znc will help?
[08:45] <tlt> awshelp, with your proficiency the instance is in peril in itself, more commands won't hurt
[08:45] <awshelp> yes
[08:45] <Mathisen> awshelp, just a friendly link for you > https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[08:45] <awshelp> lol
[08:45] <Ben64> spoiler - it won't
[08:45] <Skyrider> Ben64.. how do you know?
[08:45] <tlt> having an instance with zero knowledge isn't the most stable platform
[08:46] <awshelp> Mathisen i followed that exact guide
[08:46] <awshelp> and it didnt work
[08:46] <rww> how on earth did you manage to get DDoSed in #freenode when I have no cloak, IRC off my home computer, and sit in there and act obnoxious on a regular basis
[08:46] <rww> and I have never had that problem
[08:46] <Ben64> because it didn't happen
[08:46] <cfhowlett> rww, --- YET
[08:46] <awshelp> i was uncloaked
[08:46] <awshelp> unregistered
[08:46] <Mathisen> awshelp, @ what step did it go wrong
[08:47] <awshelp> Mathisen i configered the znc
[08:47] <awshelp> rebooted
[08:47] <awshelp> launched znc
[08:47] <awshelp> and it said no config file present
[08:47] <awshelp> i asked in here
[08:47] <awshelp> they said its a bad guide
[08:47] <awshelp> lol
[08:47] <Skyrider> use
[08:47] <Skyrider> znc --makeconf
[08:47] <awshelp> yup i did
[08:47] <awshelp> rebooted and it disappeared
[08:48] <awshelp>  /usr/local/bin/znc --makeconf
[08:48] <awshelp> thats what i used
[08:48] <Skyrider> I think I compiled my znc.
[08:48] <awshelp> i did this years ago
[08:48] <awshelp> it went smoothly then
[08:49] <awshelp> ok im gonna delete the instance
[08:49] <awshelp> and redo this
[08:49] <Mathisen> awshelp, the conf file will be saved in home of user that runs command...
[08:49] <Skyrider> ~/.znc/configs/znc.conf <-
[08:49] <Mathisen> awshelp, so did you run makeconf as the user that gonna run it ?
[08:49] <Skyrider> Does it exist?
[08:50] <rww> this is getting to the point that it probably belongs in #znc
[08:50] <awshelp> Mathisen i dont know i followed thatguide exactly
[08:50] <rww> if you're using self-compiled ZNC and following upstream's guides
[08:50] <awshelp> Skyrider how do i check
[08:50] <Ben64> exactly one command away from getting it working on ubuntu though
[08:50] <awshelp> compile?
[08:50] <awshelp> lol
[08:51] <Skyrider> if I type "vim ~/.znc/configs/znc.conf" without the quotes
[08:51] <awshelp> whats the difference between compiling it and sudo apt get install znc?
[08:51] <Skyrider> I see my config file under the znc user
[08:51] <Ben64> first line in the readme from the ubuntu version --- To get started using znc, run "znc --makeconf" to interactively create a configuration file (~/.znc/configs/znc.conf).
[08:51] <rww> for a start, sudo apt-get install znc doesn't put it in /usr/local/bin/znc
[08:51] <rww> for a second, it doesn't involve overcomplicated use of crontab
[08:51] <tlt> type which znc
[08:52] <tlt> type "which znc" without the quotes
[08:52] <awshelp> vim ~/.znc/configs/znc.conf
[08:52] <awshelp> screen shows blak
[08:52] <awshelp> this instance is done
[08:52] <awshelp> restarting
[08:52] <tlt> now you'll have troubles exiting vi
[08:52] <awshelp> sudo apt get
[08:52] <awshelp> install znc
[08:52] <Ben64> awshelp: dude stop using enter so much
[08:53] <awshelp> my bad
[08:53] <awshelp> so if i use sudo apt get install znc, it will auto boot itself on reboot?
[08:55] <awshelp> hello?
[08:55] <awshelp> can u hear me
[08:55] <Skyrider> I am not sure, sorry.. I compliled znc.
[08:56] <awshelp> no prob thanks for helping
[08:56] <awshelp> thanks everyone for helping me
[08:56] <awshelp> i know i am a pain
[08:56] <awshelp> i am super noob at this
[08:56] <Skyrider> awshelp, you know that there's a znc channel, right? here on freenode /join #znc
[08:56] <awshelp> :-d
[08:56] <Skyrider> So you know.
[08:56] <awshelp> :-d
[08:56] <awshelp> excellent idea
[08:56] <awshelp> i am going there now
[08:57] <awshelp> but i wonder if my last question is better answered in here or there?
[08:57] <Skyrider> You never know :p
[08:57] <Ben64> get it configured first before worrying about when it runs
[08:57] <awshelp> ok
[08:57] <awshelp> lol
[08:57] <awshelp> this is crazy
[08:58] <awshelp> thank you so much guys for help!
[08:58] <Skyrider> awshelp: And be patient.
[08:58] <awshelp> for sure
[08:58] <Skyrider> You don't always get an answer right away.
[08:58] <awshelp> wait
[08:58] <awshelp> last question
[08:59] <awshelp> so im gonna sudo apt get install it, i wana install it from a new non root user right?
[08:59] <Ben64> you have to use sudo or root to use "apt-get install"
[08:59] <Skyrider> indeed.
[08:59] <awshelp> yes
[08:59] <awshelp> so your saying im not root
[08:59] <Skyrider> Unless it has been excluded in the sudoers file.
[09:00] <awshelp> but i mean i dont want znvc to have root
[09:00] <awshelp> znc
[09:00] <Skyrider> awshelp: using "sudo" before the command means to run the command as root.
[09:00] <valtrip> hey guys !! can somebody help me with power consumption problem in 15.04    ,, rate is 14W in powerStat  ,
[09:01] <Skyrider> If you'd for example would create the znc config file WITH the sudo command, you'll create the config file as root.. not a good idea.
[09:02] <Skyrider> awshelp and there you have it, already an answer on znc channel :p
[09:02] <awshelp> so install with sudo, makeconf without sudo, and run znc without sudo?
[09:02] <Skyrider> exactly. but that also depends on which user you wish to make the config file with. But that might make things more complex for you.
[09:03] <awshelp> ok
[09:03] <awshelp> ok
[09:03] <awshelp> let me get installed
[09:03] <awshelp> i will be back
[09:03] <awshelp> thanks guys <333
[09:03] <Skyrider> ^^
[09:03] <quest9> hi?
[09:03] <Skyrider> Ello
[09:04] <quest9> im have error on phpmyadmin (xampp),, im cant fix it,, help me
[09:04] <quest9> help
[09:05] <Ben64> !xampp | quest9
[09:05] <quest9> why not support?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> quest9, lamp is bette
[09:05] <cfhowlett> better
[09:05] <quest9> on this folder write /opt/lampp
[09:07] <quest9> im try edit config.inc.php but not fix
[09:07] <rww> because xampp is a mess. go ask them for help.
[09:07] <cfhowlett> quest9, asked and answered: xampp is NOT supported here.
[09:08] <quest9> what past im using?
[09:08] <quest9> bad english
[09:08] <quest9> im sorry
[09:08] <cfhowlett> quest9, what language do you speak?
[09:09] <quest9> im from indonesian
[09:09] <quest9> im a kid
[09:09] <cfhowlett> !indonesia | quest9
[09:10] <Slown> Hello
[09:10] <quest9> saya ingin melatih berbahasa indonesia
[09:10] <Slown> I want to encode my videos using the x265 codec
[09:10] <quest9> kenapa saya tidak boleh join disini?
[09:10] <Slown> this codec seems to be unavailable on Ubuntu right now
[09:11] <Slown> is there any trick to install it ?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> Slown, "it" ?
[09:11] <Slown> yeah the codec I mean
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !details | Slown
[09:12] <tlt> that console encoder program has it in its experimental releases I think
[09:13] <tlt> whichever video program starts with an f that is
[09:13] <Slown> http://x265.org/
[09:13] <Slown> it's not experimental, it's already in use
[09:14] <rww> ffmpeg
[09:14] <tlt> yeah
[09:14] <Slown> it's included with ffmpeg ?
[09:14] <Slown> so no need to install any other librairies ?
[09:15] <tlt> ffmepg is self contained, given that your release supports x265 of course
[09:15] <tlt> try ffmpeg -v perhaps
[09:16] <tlt> Slown, I just doubt that the ones in the apt repos have that support yet.
[09:17] <Polarcraft> Can anyone tell me why my ssh port on my virtual machine will not allow connections, but the port is open?
[09:17] <Ben64> Polarcraft: not enough information to determine answer
[09:17] <auronandace> Polarcraft: you may need to set up port forwarding depending on your vm network settings
[09:17] <Polarcraft> Ben64, don't know what else to say besides ubuntu refusing my connection.
[09:18] <Polarcraft> auronandace, already did the interfaces with the port.
[09:19] <Ben64> use nmap to check the port
[09:20] <Apachez> new virtualbox in ubuntu is broken
[09:20] <Apachez> during install:
[09:21] <Apachez> Starting VirtualBox kernel modules ...done.
[09:21] <Apachez> ln: target ‘setup’ is not a directory
[09:21] <Apachez> and then it ends...
[09:21] <Polarcraft> Ben64, response: 7000/tcp open  afs3-fileserver
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !vbox | Apachez
[09:21] <Apachez> !broken package in Ubuntu due to lack of quality control | Apachez
[09:22] <cfhowlett> Apachez, false and fud.  stop it.
[09:22] <Ben64> Polarcraft: you ran that from where you want to connect from?
[09:22] <Apachez> cfhowlett: look above, its broken
[09:22] <Polarcraft> Ben64, well I ran nmap -p 7000 10.21.21.40
[09:22] <tlt> Apachez, ALWAYS get virtualbox from the virtualbox site.
[09:22] <Ben64> tlt: nah
[09:22] <tlt> they have ubuntu packages ready for you.
[09:23] <Apachez> tlt: thats what I thought the point of using ubuntu package manager was
[09:23] <Ben64> Polarcraft: so run ssh -vvvv 10.21.21.40 and pastebin the output
[09:23] <Ben64> Apachez: give more information
[09:24] <Apachez> Ben64: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade   using ubuntu 15.10
[09:24] <Apachez> updated virtualbox package was added last day
[09:24] <Apachez> during install it ends with:
[09:24] <Apachez> Starting VirtualBox kernel modules ...done.
[09:24] <Apachez> ln: target ‘setup’ is not a directory
[09:24] <Apachez> and then the install/update/upgrade ends
[09:24] <Ben64> yeah i saw that when you pasted it 3 minutes ago
[09:25] <Polarcraft> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/S3gghGM5
[09:25] <Ben64> Polarcraft: whoops, put "-p 7000" at the end
[09:25] <Apachez> Upgrade: virtualbox-5.0:amd64 (5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~wily, 5.0.12-104815~Ubuntu~wily)
[09:26] <Apachez> from the history.log
[09:26] <Polarcraft> Ben64, allows me to connect from dedicated machine, just not from putty.
[09:27] <Ben64> then you need to set up putty to use port 7000
[09:27] <rww> Apachez: erm, that package version is from a repository maintained by Virtualbox upstream, not by Ubuntu
[09:27] <rww> so "broken package in Ubuntu due to lack of quality control" doesn't really apply.
[09:27] <Polarcraft> Ben64, already did that, that is the weird part.
[09:27] <Apachez> sure it applies
[09:27] <Apachez> using ubuntu: checked
[09:27] <Apachez> broken package: checked
[09:27] <Ben64> not using ubuntu package
[09:27] <Apachez> how come its broken? well either lack of quality control or by purpose (I sure hope its not the later): checked
[09:27] <rww> righto, let me be clearer. Your problem is with a package not maintained by us. Go talk to the Virtualbox folks.
[09:27] <quest9> who hacker?
 Apachez, ALWAYS get virtualbox from the virtualbox site.
[09:28] <rww> yep, that was incorrect, as Ben64 said.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> quest9,  you are in the wrong channel
[09:28] <Ben64> using snarky attitude - ✓
[09:28] <Ben64> not a great way to get help anywhere
[09:28] <soio> Hi all, I'm on an Ubuntu Mate 15.10, do you know how to remove the login script ? I tried different solutions but nothing applies ...
[09:29] <Ben64> Polarcraft: well if you can connect using ssh and not with putty, the problem has to be putty
[09:29] <soio> The login request at startup I mean ...
[09:29] <tlt> Apachez, you should really heed these folk and not me.
[09:29] <quest9> hehe..  where channel about hacking please tag me
[09:29] <Ben64> quest9: not on freenode
[09:29] <Polarcraft> Ben64, so I just tried connecting without any settings and it is still refusing my connection.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> quest9, don't know.  not an ubuntu topic.  ask somewhere else.
[09:30] <quest9> but on??
[09:30] <Ben64> soio: what are you trying to accomplish
[09:30] <Mathisen> quest9, start with any programing channel
[09:30] <quest9> oke
[09:30] <cfhowlett> quest9, there's this thing called google
[09:30] <soio> I went to /etc/lightdm
[09:30] <Apachez> tlt: I already figured out its a blame game of "not my problem" so tnx for your effort ;)
[09:31] <quest9> google is bad,, im search on google but not available
[09:31] <soio> I could not find lightdm.conf that is suggested to modify
[09:31] <narami> how to run ubuntu on Android
[09:31] <soio> There is only lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[09:32] <soio> then I added some script under /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d
[09:32] <soio> but nothing works
[09:33] <soio> I'm tring to remove the login window at boot
[09:33] <Ben64> soio: and what would be there instead
[09:34] <Polarcraft> Ben64, ah I was using the local ip instead of external: http://pastebin.com/S3gghGM5
[09:34] <soio> I have now the login window without password request ( I removed it by ubuntu interface )
[09:34] <tlt> quest9, go to ##security
[09:34] <Ben64> Polarcraft: need to forward the port then
[09:34] <soio> But I want remove login window completely
[09:35] <Polarcraft> Ben64, it is forwarded: post-up iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i vmbr0 -p tcp --dport 7000:7100 -j DNAT --to 10.21.21.40
[09:35] <quest9> on server ??? ::: tlt
[09:35] <Ben64> soio: but what will be there
[09:35] <quest9> thanks tlt
[09:35] <Ben64> Polarcraft: well not properly then
[09:36] <soio> I would like that when I boot my system I get directly my desktop ready
[09:36] <Ben64> soio: so you want to auto login
[09:36] <soio> Yes I do
[09:36] <Ben64> soio: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/auto-login-to-the-desktop/60
[09:37] <soio> Thank you I'll give a shot
[09:37] <Polarcraft> Ben64, I don't know how that isn't forwarded correctly..
[09:38] <Ben64> well the outside port is closed, so its not working as it should
[09:41] <soio> Ben64: Working, thank you
[09:42] <Ben64> soio: you're welcome
[09:42] <linuxn00b> hi guys, anyone know how to run GUI apps within a lxd container?
[09:45] <asad_> I was having vertical screen tearing when scrolling in firefox... I have enabled the "force full screen redrwas on repaint" workaround as stated here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1293243 but in the following answer, it says "don't wait for video sync" should be enabled too.  http://askubuntu.com/a/75906, so what should I do?
[09:46] <slidinghorn> asad_: has something gone wrong since last night when we talked?
[09:47] <asad_> slidinghorn: No I'm just wondering whether enabling "dont wait for video sync" might improve anything. Nothing seems wrong. It's just that in the answer, the answerer says "also maybe enable this too"... so I'm not sure
[09:48] <slidinghorn> asad_: if you're not having problems, it's best to leave things be if you don't know what you're doing.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[09:51] <asad__> slidinghorn: Hey, I'm sorry I got disconnected... did you send anything?
[09:51] <slidinghorn> 02:49 < slidingho> asad_: if you're not having problems, it's best to leave things be if you don't know what you're doing.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[09:53] <asad__> slidinghorn: Yeah nothing seems wrong... I just have this feeling that maybe I'm not using the right combination of the settings.. that may yield the best results... but everything seems to be working fine though
[09:55] <asad__> hey by the way is there anything wrong with hexchat? it doesn't seem to be working
[09:56] <asad__> i'm having to use webchat.freenode.net
[10:07] <mcm__> how do i stop the network? neither of those work: service networking stop; ifdown eth0 ; service network-manager stop
[10:08] <blackthor> unplug the cable?
[10:08] <blackthor> are you sure the interface is eth0 ?
[10:08] <mcm__> blackthor: using virtualbox, no the interface is enp0s3
[10:09] <mcm__> however ifdown enp0s3 doesn't work either :-(
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> enp? new naming standards?
[10:09] <mcm__> MonkeyDust: no clue... haven't seen it before either...
[10:10] <mcm__> might be due to some virtualbox driver
[10:10] <mcm__> so how do you stop disable networking in ubuntu?
[10:10] <mcm__> so miss the old day /etc/init.d/networking stop
[10:11] <valtrip> hey guys !! can somebody help me with power consumption problem in 15.04    ,,
[10:12] <valtrip> mcm_    you can do    sudo service network-manager stop
[10:12] <linuxn00b> valtrip, what's the problem?
[10:12] <mcm__> valtrip: you should describe your problem...
[10:12] <mcm__> valtrip: that does not work either...
[10:13] <valtrip> i have a lenovo laptop  , with i3 4005 and amd radeon
[10:13] <valtrip> battery drains in <2hours ,, with wifi on
[10:13] <linuxn00b> valtrip, check out TLP
[10:14] <valtrip> mainly  browser open (with 8-9 tabs) n music on earphone
[10:14] <valtrip> tlp is installed ,,no improvements
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> mcm__  try sudo service networking stop
[10:16] <valtrip> in POwerTop , it shows      Power est.          Usage       Events/s    Category       Description  :  3.53 W    100.0%                      Device         Radio device: ideapad_acp
[10:16] <mcm__> MonkeyDust: already tried.
[10:17] <mcm__> either of those work: service networking stop; ifdown eth0 ; service network-manager stop
[10:17] <mcm__> ifconfig still shows 2 devices and pings still work...
[10:19] <linuxn00b> valtrip, which model lenovo?
[10:21] <valtrip> Lenovo B40-70 Notebook (4th Gen
[10:21] <valtrip> Ci3/ 4GB/ 500GB/ Free DOS/ 2GB
[10:21] <valtrip> Graph) (59-440450)     product page : ---       http://goo.gl/hzmBic
[10:30] <linuxn00b> valtrip, laptop-mode-tools is removed right?
[10:31] <jihed> hello
[10:32] <valtrip> ?? anybody here
[10:32] <linuxn00b> yeah, I asked if laptop-mode-tools is removed
[10:34] <jihed> not
[10:36] <valtrip> linuxn00b  ,,,    i didn't installed laptop-mode-tools   ,, its not installed by default (i think) ,,
[10:37] <deadrat> Hello, I am new to ubuntu.
[10:37] <deadrat> I am having trouble installing telegram-cli
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> !find telegram-cli
[10:37] <Mathisen> deadrat, and the problem is
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !details | deadrat,
[10:38] <deadrat> The error I get is pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aZczWabT
[10:39] <Mathisen> deadrat, and if you run apt-get -f install ?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> deadrat  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[10:39] <deadrat> Will that work without the dependencies ?
[10:40] <Mathisen> it should fix them if they exist in your ppa
[10:40] <deadrat> MonkeyDust: cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:43] <deadrat> Mathisen: Thanks, it is working
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> deadrat  you installed it with a ppa?
[10:52] <testf> I have a nouveau driver crashing when I run video with default videoplayer in trusty. Suggestions?
[10:54] <testf> GPU lockup and stuff
[10:55] <testf> I have to hard reboot to get back up
[11:00] <tesla_ubuntu> hi
[11:02] <EriC^^> hi
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> hi
[11:10] <testf> I'll try install proprietary instead of nouveau
[11:17] <testf> yup, proprietary solved it. Yay for proprietary! My soul belongs to Nvidia!
[11:48] <Guest45054> 大家好啊
[11:49] <Guest45054> 我是新人 ，向各位学习啦
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:51] <Guest45054> I‘M a new one to learn ubuntu ,hope u guys could help me!
[11:51] <Guest45054> tx
[11:51] <cassio3> Guest45054
[11:52] <cassio3> do you wish to learn desktop or CLI?
[11:52] <cassio3> (CLI is generally recommended first)
[11:52] <Guest45054> how to download flash?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Guest45054
[11:52] <cassio3> but http://help.ubuntu.com is very good
[11:53] <Guest45054> sorry . I don't know the difference between them
[11:53] <cassio3> all the information should be the same
[11:53] <cassio3> or almost the same
[11:53] <cassio3> but I don't know either
[11:53] <Guest45054> thank you!
[11:54] <Guest45054> CLI first,right ?
[11:54] <cassio3> what browser do you normally use? because I used chromium on my last installl.
[11:54] <cassio3> the CLI helps you get out of difficult situations, provide information to support like us
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Guest45054  first get used used to the new interface, click here and there, see what's where
[11:55] <cassio3> and like some versions of Windows and certainly Mac OS X, can help if the system cannot boot
[11:55] <Guest45054> I USE IE OR 360IE,but my ubuntu system only has firefox
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest45054  yes, get used to new names and programs
[11:55] <cassio3> chatroom, ubuntu only has iceweasel?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest45054  like we all did
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> !find iceweasel
[11:56] <engyishere> how to make ubuntu boot fast?
[11:56] <engyishere> help
[11:56] <k1l> iceweasel is not in ubuntu included. thats a debian thing
[11:56] <Guest45054> iceweasel?
[11:56] <Guest45054> I will search it
[11:57] <badbodh> iceweasel is firefox enterprise
[11:57] <k1l> iceweasel is firefox without the logos and trademarks from mozilla.
[11:57] <slidinghorn> 02:49 < slidingho> asad_: if you're not having problems, it's best to leave things be if you don't know what you're doing.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[11:57] <badbodh> version numberwise
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> engyishere  a few tips   http://paste.ubuntu.com/14096604/
[11:57] <Guest45054> oh , i get it.
[11:58] <Robin_> I reported a bug a while ago on Launchpad and I even wrote a fix and included it in my bug report
[11:58] <Robin_> But there hasn't been any response on my bug report for almost 2 months
[11:59] <k1l> Robin_: is the right package targeted?
[11:59] <Robin_> Am I in the right channel to ask for help regarding my bu report?
[11:59] <cassio3> btw, that manual says nothing if things go wrong.
[11:59] <Robin_> k1l: I reported it for the right package, yes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1510237
[11:59] <cassio3> (installation, printers, or anything.)
[12:00] <k1l> Robin_: depends on the package. sometimes its best to talk to the maintainer directly and show him the bug report
[12:00] <Robin_> I added the traceback error and my fix in Python to the bug report
[12:00] <Guest45054> thank you guys, i'd better do some research in the http://help.ubuntu.com first as you recommend
[12:00] <Robin_> The package is the software-center package in Ubuntu, the maintaner according to Launchad is 'Ubuntu Developers'
[12:03] <vocx> Robin_, this is not the appropriate channel to deal with this. I think there should be an #ubuntu-bugs channel or something like that. I think it should be possible to attach the new code as a file, and not just put a pastebin somewhere on the internet.
[12:03] <nightfuri> how do i install the latest version of wine's 32-bit package in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[12:04] <Robin_> I will ask my question on #ubuntu-bugs then, thank you. Also it is not a pastebin somewhere on the internet, it is the pastebin maintained by Ubuntu (pastebin.ubuntu.com).
[12:04] <vocx> Robin_, changes in code are usually done in the form of a "diff", that is, a file that shows the difference between two files.
[12:04] <raspberry-pi> hey
[12:05] <k1l> Robin_: on that site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter  i found this https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
[12:06] <vocx> Robin_, that it's maintained by Ubuntu is not an issue, but generally, all addresses on the Internet can expire. So even that address may expire and the fix is not found anymore in a couple of years. This is relevant not for your issue, but for fixes that take years to implement or so. People need to track the issue by attachments.
[12:07] <Robin_> vocx, I will try to add it both files as attachments to my bug report then, thank you
[12:07] <V99_> I have a problem with ext4 partition, when I access to one specific folder the filesystem puts in readonly fs
[12:08] <V99_> i reboot in recovery mode, pass fsck.ext4 i solve the problem
[12:08] <V99_> but when i access another time to the folder
[12:08] <V99_> the system become readonly again
[12:08] <V99_> and i doesnt what do to solve this problem
[12:10] <piotrek> hi
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> V99_  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[12:10] <vocx> Robin_, in most cases you don't need to add the whole file, just the "diff". I forget the exact options but it should be something like "diff -u original_file new_file > diff_file"     Adding the entire code of a file is not necessary if you just want to get a small function fixed. This relevant if the original file is thousands of lines long.
[12:11] <V99_> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[12:11] <V99_> in dmesg appear this
[12:11] <V99_> [ 3787.621532] EXT4-fs error (device sda5): ext4_ext_check_inode:496: inode #8194: comm rsync: pblk 0 bad header/extent: invalid magic - magic 0, entries 0, max 0(0), depth 0(0)
[12:11] <V99_> [ 3787.621802] EXT4-fs error (device sda5): ext4_ext_check_inode:496: inode #14: comm rsync: pblk 0 bad header/extent: invalid magic - magic 0, entries 0, max 0(0), depth 0(0)
[12:11] <Jelatine> hey
[12:12] <Jelatine> somebody?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Jelatine  this is the ubuntu suppot channel
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> support*
[12:20] <V99_> MonkeyDust: some idea?
[12:21] <V99_> jummm i can remove directly the inode
[12:22] <hml> I installed the KDEnlive, but it don't has any icons.
[12:40] <greenmaker> God damn it, when there's tons of opened windows Unity is much better than xfce
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> greenmaker  fair enough, but drop the profanity in the future
[12:47] <crised> Do you guys usually use Ubuntu on Macbooks?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> crised  that's a yes/no question... what's your real issue?
[12:49] <crised> MonkeyDust: My issue is that I was thinking in buying a notebook to use linux on it... but I realize that mac sells great hardware
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> !mac | crised start here
[12:49] <crised> MonkeyDust: is it a pain to install ubuntu on Mac?
[12:50] <crised> MonkeyDust: I'm not asking how is it done... I'm asking if is an intelligent way to use ubuntu on macbook? or should I just stick to PC hardware?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> crised, many people have
[12:50] <greenmaker> oh no, i said "god damn it"
[12:50] <greenmaker> burn me
[12:50] <crised> greenmaker: ?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !language |  greenmaker, knock it off.
[12:51] <crised> cfhowlett: do they normally use the 2 OS, or they just wipe the macbook>
[12:51] <greenmaker> Do you guys use any alternative app switcher (alt+tab) in xfce?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> crised, I see lots of dualboots.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> crised, go  to a NON-Apple store with your Ubuntu AMD64 usb.  boot that puppy up and test it.
[12:51] <crised> cfhowlett: do they work good? Does Ubuntu runs good on Macbooks?
[12:52] <crised> cfhowlett: apple store don't allow that?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> crised, NON-Apple store
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Apple stores would rather burn you at the stake
[12:52] <crised> cfhowlett: Do people use 1 hdd divided for 2 OSs?
[12:53] <crised> cfhowlett: I guess it would be better to have 2 HDD 1 for Ubuntu 1 for Mac OS X
[12:53] <cfhowlett> crised,  see all those people booting windows on their mac?  same idea
[12:53] <crised> is that even possible? or convienient?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> crised, see the mac wiki and direct those questions to the mac forums.  I've TESTED macs but never owned one.
[12:54] <crised> cfhowlett: ok great
[13:11] <CuriosityFV> URGENT: https://communities.intel.com/thread/96168
[13:11] <CuriosityFV> NUC5i5RYH Bricked by Ubuntu Suspend for Fifth Time
[13:11] <cfhowlett> CuriosityFV, did you file a bug report??
[13:12] <CuriosityFV> No, I am just a bystander interested in running Ubuntu on an Intel NUC.
[13:13] <CuriosityFV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639316/intel-nuc-running-xubuntu-spontaneously-suspends-and-wont-wake-up
[13:13] <cfhowlett> CuriosityFV, "urgent" issues generally benefit from bug reports.  irc issues do not get the same level of attentio.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> attention
[13:14] <CuriosityFV> cfhowlett: Understood, but there are developers in here whose purpose it is to monitor the chat for important user-reported issues.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> CuriosityFV, if you're serious about getting help, file a bug.
[13:15] <CuriosityFV> cfhowlett: I am not one of those directly affected. I encountered the issue while looking into the Intel NUC for my intended purpose of running Ubuntu.
[13:16] <CuriosityFV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/414021/suspend-test-seems-to-have-killed-my-intel-nuc
[13:17] <CuriosityFV> The issue has been reported on Ubuntu and Intel forums.
[13:17] <CuriosityFV> Surely that is enough to get dev attentiont to file their own bug reports.
[13:17] <k1l> nope
[13:17] <k1l> !bug | CuriosityFV
[13:18] <k1l> you cant assume all developers are scanning all forums of the internet to get the reports from users. that is why there are bugtrackers.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> CuriosityFV, filing bugs is easy.  if those so effected have not, then apparently they regard the issue as less critical than you.
[13:19] <CuriosityFV> I assume they have, cfhowlett, but an issue of this magnitude cannot be given too much attention until it is resolved.
[13:19] <CuriosityFV> It literally bricks the NUC.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> and yet ... no bug.  which is specifically the very first thing needed to elevate support. you have your answer.  I'm done.
[13:19] <fiatjaf> I've used a ubuntu installation for various months without a login screen. now I want to have a login screen. where should I look?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> fiatjaf, sounds like you enabled autologin
[13:20] <k1l> instead of discussing here (we explained why that will not help in any way to solve this issue) you could make sure there is a bug report or if there is non make one yourself. that would be actual helping.
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> CuriosityFV  'an issue of this magnitude'... how many people use a NUC ?
[13:22] <fiatjaf> cfhowlett: and how do I disable it?
[13:23] <fiatjaf> I changed things on the "user accounts" menu, but nothing happened.
[13:23] <fiatjaf> http://i.imgur.com/CmRnYgS.png
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:24] <CuriosityFV> MonkeyDust: It's not an obscure piece of hardware by any means. Right now, during normal operations, Ubuntu is giving the NUC a command that literally kills it.
[13:24] <cfhowlett> fiatjaf, direct this query to the channel, not to me alone.  For some reason, reason, imgur is blocked by the great Chinese Firewall so I can't see anyway.
[13:25] <fiatjaf> ok
[13:25] <fiatjaf> how do I disable autologin?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> fiatjaf, you have to undo the autologin - user = username           https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> fiatjaf  system settings > users > unlock
[13:28] <fiatjaf> cfhowlett: my user has not autologin enabled there.
[13:29] <fiatjaf> MonkeyDust: I did that (see screenshot), but it didn't work.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> fiatjaf, MonkeyDust has knowledge on this than I do.  I'm on xubuntu so things are a bit different
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> fiatjaf  look in dconf-editor, use ctrl-f to find autologin
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> fiatjaf  it's not in dconf... read this a bit  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[13:35] <aoteman> 没人？
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:36] <aoteman> 。
[13:38] <fiatjaf> greeter-show-manual-login=true
[13:38] <fiatjaf> that's probably the answer
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> fiatjaf  found it, in deconf?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> dcconf*
[13:41] <mario__> heelo
[13:41] <fiatjaf> no, I read about lightdm. I think it is not set to show the login screen, so even with autologin disabled it does the autologin.
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> fiatjaf  but can you disable autologin now?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> fiatjaf, do you have a password??
[13:43] <fiatjaf> I have a password.
[13:43] <fiatjaf> autologin is not enabled anywhere I look.
[13:43] <mario__> what?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> mario__  this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:44] <mario__> yes
[13:46] <mario__> MonkeyDust do you have a password?
[13:46] <bill_gates> You can use Super+G to open the Dash directly at the Friends Scope icon.
[13:46] <bill_gates> this does'nt work
[13:47] <bill_gates> doesn't
[13:47] <bill_gates> WIN +G doesn;t work
[13:48] <bill_gates> help me please
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  minimize all, then press the windows key for a few seconds... the shortcuts appear
[13:51] <bill_gates> the left shows 1,2,3,4,5..
[13:51] <bill_gates> this is the friendscope?
[13:52] <bill_gates> Friends scope
[13:52] <bill_gates> The Friends scope is the sixth lens after the Dash home in the lens bar and is represented by a speaking bubble. The Friends scope gives you access to your social media accounts.
[13:52] <bill_gates> You can use Super+G to open the Dash directly at the Friends Scope icon.
[13:53] <bill_gates> i'm stuck in this section /..
[13:54] <testf> how do I get an application to autostart in the desktop of trusty tahir?
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> testf  in the dash menu, find 'startup applications'
[13:56] <testf> MonkeyDust, where is the dash menu ? is that the column of icons on left side?
[13:56] <swenzel> i've established an ssh connection with -X flag to a machine which has X11 forwarding enabled. When I now start e.g. firefox I don't see anything... is there a place to look for debug messages?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> testf  yes, top left
[13:56] <k1l> bill_gates: the scopes changed. make sure the howto you use is for the recent ubuntu versions
[13:57] <MaggiKari> hello
[13:57] <cfhowlett> greetings MaggiKari
[13:59] <bill_gates> oh ,this how to i look at is not the newest vision ..
[13:59] <bill_gates> thx k1l
[13:59] <testf> MonkeyDust, ah, cool - I had no startup applications icon, I just had to drag one over
[14:00] <bill_gates> @k1l
[14:00] <bill_gates> then how to find friendscope?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  click on the dash icon, the scopes appear on the bottom of your screen
[14:03] <Guest46424> Hi! i am working on install ubuntu ,i want to ask some questions realeted to it
[14:03] <bill_gates> e .. there are just app lens and file lens//
[14:03] <cfhowlett> greetings Guest46424 ask your questions
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  maybe you have to enable the friends lens somewhere
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:05] <bill_gates> cat/etc/issue? type in the terminal ?
[14:05] <Guest46424> In which application should i write documentation ?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  yes
[14:05] <fep> :b
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Guest46424, libreoffice writer?
[14:06] <Guest46424> can i write in notepad or wordpad?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Guest46424, of course
[14:07] <fep> leafpad?
[14:07] <fep> pico?
[14:07] <fep> vi?
[14:07] <bill_gates> there is no that file or content ..
[14:07] <iamrohit7> i have a lenovo g50-80 laptop. my laptop charges only upto 60% under any operating system. (linux or windows)  how can i charge it to max?
[14:07] <snegamuhil> hi
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  then it's not ubuntu or you mistyped
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  cat /etc/issue
[14:07] <snegamuhil> when probe function called in linux device drivers
[14:08] <Guest46424> ok thank you
[14:08] <cfhowlett> iamrohit7, as batteries age, their charge limit drops.  normal behavior.
[14:08] <iamrohit7> cfhowlett: i bought it just a week ago
[14:08] <OerHeks> iamrohit7, not really an Ubuntu issue, contact your reseller?
[14:08] <bill_gates> i will try it again
[14:08] <fep> bill_gates, what are you trying to do? "uname -a" ?
[14:09] <iamrohit7> bill_gates type "cat /etc/issue" without quotes not "cat/etc/issue"
[14:09] <bill_gates> bill@bill-virtual-machine:~$ cat/etc/issue
[14:09] <bill_gates> bash: cat/etc/issue: 没有那个文件或目录
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  there's a space after 'cat'
[14:10] <iamrohit7> OerHeks: i was wondering if there's anyone who has the same laptop and/or the same problem
[14:10] <k1l> bill_gates: you need to read more carefully. mind the spaces
[14:10] <bill_gates> "没有那个文件或目录"means there is no that file or content
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  you mistyped
[14:11] <bill_gates> oh yeah,this time it is right
[14:11] <bill_gates> 没有那个文件或目录
[14:11] <bill_gates> bill@bill-virtual-machine:~$ cat /etc/issue
[14:11] <bill_gates> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> snegamuhil  keep it in the channel
[14:13] <snegamuhil> when probe function called in Linux device drivers
[14:13] <snegamuhil> plz help me
[14:13] <fep> snegamuhil, whats the issue?
[14:13] <OerHeks> bill_gates, so you run dutch ubuntu, and have chinese warnings?
[14:14] <bill_gates> "Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l",what'does it  means?
[14:14] <k1l> OerHeks: \n \l are not related to dutch :)
[14:14] <bill_gates> i'm from China
[14:14] <fep> :b
[14:15] <k1l> they are for motd, iirc. they get exchanged with hostname and such.
[14:15] <snegamuhil> I want to understand how linux device driver executed
[14:16] <OerHeks> k1l, oh, after 5 years i found out.. thank you, i guess
[14:16] <MonkeyDust>  \n \l mean 'no language'
[14:16] <fep> snegamuhil, http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/2011-February/000815.html
[14:17] <snegamuhil> @ Fep, thanks but it was specific to platform driver
[14:17] <snegamuhil> I am looking for general character device driver in linux
[14:18] <k1l> snegamuhil: do you have a specific ubuntu issue?
[14:18] <k1l> snegamuhil: else better ask in ##linux (but they need more details, too)
[14:18] <bill_gates> so what relationship does it have with my friendscope
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> bill_gates  read the remark next to the yellow icon  https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/unity-dash-friends.html
[14:21] <bill_gates> ok ,thank u! that's so kind of you all ! i'm to read it.
[14:22] <snegamuhil> how to join ##linux
[14:22] <snegamuhil> I was not able to connect
[14:22] <k1l> snegamuhil: /join ##linux
[14:23] <snegamuhil> @Kil plz help me
[14:24] <snegamuhil> hi
[14:24] <g105b__> HELLO!
[14:25] <snegamuhil> hi
[14:25] <g105b__> going to remote session, brb 2 minutes
[14:25] <snegamuhil> still I am not able to connect #linux
[14:25] <snegamuhil> help me plz
[14:26] <g105b> back.
[14:26] <k1l> snegamuhil: type "/join ##linux" in the irc client
[14:26] <g105b> snegamuhil: #linux requires user registration to the nick server
[14:26] <bill_gates> oh ,I find out the problem . I installed Ubuntu yesterday  and haven't enter my credentials in Online Accounts.
[14:27] <k1l> snegamuhil: then ask in #freenode about registration and logging in
[14:27] <snegamuhil> ok thanks
[14:27] <g105b> snegamuhil: type /msg nickserv help
[14:28] <fep> is there any alternative for cubase or bitwig that are free for linux/ubuntu?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> fep  rosegarden or some such program... #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated
[14:29] <cfhowlett> fep, ardour is closer to those 2
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> fep  audacity is a wav editor
[14:30] <fep> ok thanks :)
[14:32] <bill_gates> oh no ! GOOGLE and facebook are forbidden sites in China ..
[14:33] <han-solo_> hello
[14:37] <Ciplotz> hi
[14:38] <Ciplotz> fep Ardour is the most complete audio editor on linux. Rosegarden is more oriented on midi.
[14:39] <fep> oh ok, *remove*
[14:39] <Ciplotz> fep anyway you can connect several differents app by using an app called Jack
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> i use jack to rip my audio cd collection
[14:40] <Ciplotz> fep the only lack you'll find is for loop. There is not at today an app which automatcally adapts loop in bpm and pitch as it is for eg acidmusic
[14:41] <fep> ok, ill check it out, long time since i made some cool music, actually i have not since i erased windows for good ten years ago
[14:42] <Skyrider> Really..
[14:42] <Skyrider> No ubuntu on NOOBS for pi2?
[14:42] <Skyrider> :-\ that, saddens me
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, ask your ubuntu question
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  #raspberrypi
[14:42] <Ciplotz> monkey dust the jack I wrote about is not a ripper but onlyba virtual patch panel with sync
[14:42] <Skyrider> I am in the ubuntu channel, am I not? :)
[14:42] <Skyrider> Ubuntu mate = ubuntu ;)
[14:43] <Skyrider> Besides, no question.
[14:43] <Skyrider> Just a shame to see ubuntu is not in the NOOBS package.
[14:43] <k1l> Skyrider: can you make a proper question with details? this drama doesn lead anywhere
[14:43] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, ubuntu is a full OS.  no need for it be in any NOOBS package.  stay on topic of chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <cfhowlett> of / or
[14:45] <Skyrider> Meh.. no need to be snappy :-\.. no offence.
[14:45] <k1l> Skyrider: well, talk to the noobs-installer maker about putting ubuntu mate into there. we cant force them
[14:46] <Skyrider> Ya, I get that. Was just about to install ubuntu on my pi2, now I just have to figure out how to install it manually.
[14:47] <k1l> Skyrider: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[14:47] <han-solo_> k1l: YOu bought the $5 rpi zero?
[14:47] <k1l> nope
[14:48] <han-solo_> ok
[14:48] <Skyrider> Thanks, but I'm aware of the url / links :D. Tutorial link however, is made for linux. Not windows. Just need to google the windows one.
[14:49] <han-solo_> *windows*?
[14:49] <han-solo_> :}
[14:50] <Skyrider> Ya, windows :p
[14:51] <han-solo_> switch!
[14:51] <han-solo_> to [linux]
[14:52] <Skyrider> Not for desktop, only server. Either way, I'm out of questions for today for ubuntu.. I think anyway.. other questions are memcache related, but shame they barely reply in their channel.. so I'll have to wait
[14:56] <godbod>  hallo hier
[14:56] <Skyrider> hi
[15:04] <neredsenvy> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 64x smoothly
[15:04] <neredsenvy> PC rebooted after install
[15:04] <neredsenvy> however is now stuck at a black screen and a blinking cursor
[15:04] <neredsenvy> any ideas
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | neredsenvy try this
[15:06] <ubuntu> oi
[15:14] <neredsenvy> MonkeyDust, Thanks I'll see if I can update the grub file from installation usb try ubuntu option : P
[15:17] <neredsenvy> Bit odd I pressed try ubuntu
[15:17] <neredsenvy> and now it's asking me for username/password
[15:17] <neredsenvy> the combination I set during install does not work
[15:18] <neredsenvy> solved
[15:18] <narmi> how to install ubuntu on Android
[15:19] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-touch
[15:20] <BluesKaj> narmi,^
[15:28] <lettuce45> hi, in order to access an online email account enabled cookies is all i need, right? flash does not play a role
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> lettuce45  you mean webmail?
[15:29] <lettuce45> yes
[15:29] <k1l> lettuce45: depends on the webmail software used.
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> lettuce45  i guess it depends on how the website is contructed... is it a flash site?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> k1l  said the same thing
[15:30] <lettuce45> no, html
[15:30] <nightfuri> how can i install the latest version of wine in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> nightfuri  for anything outside the repos, you need a .deb or ppa or so, but that's not supported here
[15:33] <nightfuri> MonkeyDust: oh ok playonlinux says "Ubuntu Precise (and superior) users : You must install the package wine:i386 to get PlayOnLinux working"
[15:34] <nightfuri> so how i install the package wine:i386 related to the version inside the repo ?
[15:34] <neredsenvy> Damn it now ubuntu wont install
[15:34] <neredsenvy> damn
[15:34] <neredsenvy> I mean wont start in try mode
[15:34] <neredsenvy> installing ubuntoo is never smooth
[15:34] <k1l> neredsenvy: did you use the nomodeset solution?
[15:35] <neredsenvy> k1l, I can't get to a terminal
[15:35] <neredsenvy> anyway I try it
[15:35] <k1l> no need for a terminal
[15:35] <k1l> !nomodeset | neredsenvy
[15:36] <nightfuri> i mean what is the package name to install for wine:i386 in ubuntu14.04 ?
[15:37] <neredsenvy> I don't know how to add a kernel parameter
[15:37] <k1l> neredsenvy: its explained there
[15:37] <k1l> neredsenvy: see the link
[15:45] <zumba_addict> good morning. I just finished installing Ubuntu 14.04. I would like to add those tiny apps that we put on desktop. I've seen one before and it was showing weather, cpu utilization etc. How do I do that?
[15:45] <engyishere> hello
[15:46] <neredsenvy> k1l, I keep hittin SHIFT during boot but do not get into GRUB menu
[15:46] <k1l> hold shift
[15:46] <k1l> for uefi systems it might be esc
[15:47] <k1l> neredsenvy: you isntalled ubuntu already, right? if not and you use the live-system you need to change that setting when you see the "try ubuntu or install ubuntu" menue
[15:48] <ioria> neredsenvy, basically, you press F6 and choose 'nomodeset'
[15:48] <fuat-pi> hi
[15:48] <xela2244> hi, I'm using ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and I'm missing windows theme option on gnome-tweak-tool, any solution?
[15:49] <neredsenvy> Nope holding SHIFT does nothing, holding ESC I get to stay at boot info page for 20seconds than back to blinking cursor, pressing F6 same thing
[15:49] <engyishere> zumba_addict if u come to know how to do that ..do tell me
[15:50] <ioria> neredsenvy, you don't get the Main menu ?
[15:50] <zumba_addict> i found it, called screenlits
[15:50] <neredsenvy> nope
[15:51] <k1l> neredsenvy: did you already install ubuntu?
[15:51] <neredsenvy> yes
[15:51] <k1l> neredsenvy: did it fully complete the install?
[15:51] <neredsenvy> yes no errors no problems
[15:51] <neredsenvy> smooth install
[15:51] <k1l> neredsenvy: is it the only OS on that system?
[15:51] <neredsenvy> yes
[15:51] <engyishere> thanks
[15:52] <engyishere> screenlits..
[15:52] <neredsenvy> in BIOS should I diable quiet boot ? maybe
[15:52] <engyishere> how to download screenlits
[15:52] <k1l> neredsenvy: you cant disable the kernel parameter ins bios
[15:53] <k1l> neredsenvy: but yes, maybe that gives you a bigger timeframe to hit the proper keys
[15:53] <TJ-> neredsenvy: do you hold the Shift key down continuously from when the BIOS/firmware is doiing POST?
[15:54] <neredsenvy> Do I need to enter BIOS first > exit than Hold SHIFT
[15:54] <neredsenvy> or power up and hold SHIFT
[15:54] <TJ-> neredsenvy: shift needs be down when the BIOS hands over to GRUB, so it helps to hold it down as early as possible
[15:55] <ioria> neredsenvy, are you booting from a live disk  ?
[15:55] <TJ-> neredsenvy: the reason bootloaders use Shift or Ctrl is that unlike all other keys, they don't generate key-up/key-down events, they set flags, so the user doesn't need to be repeatedly hitting the key to get it recognised, just has to hold it down
[15:56] <neredsenvy> ioria, No main hard drive I took the installation usb out
[15:56] <ioria> neredsenvy, ah, ok
[15:56] <neredsenvy> Ok so going into bios exiting it holding SHIFT did not help either
[15:56] <neredsenvy> If I go to try ubuntu it just get's stuck loading forever
[15:57] <neredsenvy> I get get into BIOS F2 or into Boot Menu F12
[15:57] <neredsenvy> I tried powering up and HOLDING Shift, Esc, F6 as well as HITTING
[15:57] <neredsenvy> Nothing yet
[15:57] <TJ-> neredsenvy: if you get to 'try ubuntu' that's the boot loader
[15:57] <k1l> neredsenvy: there should not be a "try ubuntu" if you did a install and are not booting the live-usb
[15:57] <ioria> neredsenvy, wubi
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> ioria  that's a profanity
[15:58] <k1l> wubi? please not wubi
[15:58] <ioria> MonkeyDust, i'am afraid he used that ....
[15:59] <neredsenvy> No I did not use Wubi
[15:59] <ioria> neredsenvy, ah, ok
[15:59] <meowwhat> wub wub wub
 neredsenvy: there should not be a "try ubuntu" if you did a install and are not booting the live-usb
[15:59] <TJ-> neredsenvy: If you're seeing "Try Ubuntu" that is the installer booting
[16:00] <TJ-> neredsenvy: so the question is, when the system booted for the original install, how did you go about installing ?
[16:00] <neredsenvy> everything went smooth no errors or anything
[16:00] <neredsenvy> after reboot
[16:00] <neredsenvy> it came to a blinking cursor
[16:00] <neredsenvy> that's it
[16:00] <TJ-> neredsenvy: We're assuming you either chose the boot-time option "Install Ubuntu" or used the "Try Ubuntu" mode and then double-clicked the "Install Ubuntu" icon the live environment desktop
[16:00] <k1l> neredsenvy: if there is still "try ubuntu" there is nothing "all fine" with the install
[16:01] <neredsenvy> I went with install ubuntu right away
[16:01] <neredsenvy> ok what do I do now
[16:01] <neredsenvy> No problem reinstalling
[16:01] <zumba_addict> i like the Englightenment window manager back in the days. Do we have something like that today?
[16:01] <k1l> neredsenvy: do you see a "try ubuntu" now?
[16:01] <ioria> neredsenvy, boot the live
[16:01] <k1l> zumba_addict: there is enlightenment desktop in the repos
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !e17 | zumba_addict
[16:02] <TJ-> neredsenvy: OK, well, the thing that has all of us scratching our heads is why, if the installation device is no longer connected, how the boot-loader is displaying "Try Ubuntu" right now, since that only comes from the installer boot menu
[16:02] <Rigongia> hi everyone, i'm having troubles on a live Ubuntu 14.04 with a thousand jpegs that seem to be corrupted and start by 0x7c02
[16:02] <Rigongia> does anyone know how i could recover them ?
[16:02] <zumba_addict> ah cool :D
[16:02] <zumba_addict> thanks a lot!
[16:03] <neredsenvy> T3, When USB is not plugged in I get the cursor
[16:03] <zumba_addict> it should work on 14.04 right?
[16:03] <zumba_addict> i'll read this too - http://ubuntuportal.com/2015/02/how-to-install-enlightenment-e20-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-14-04-14-10.html
[16:03] <neredsenvy> When i plugin the installation USB i get to installation menu if I go to boot menu and slect USB
[16:03] <TJ-> neredsenvy: OK, so "Try Ubuntu" only shows when the installer device is connected
[16:04] <neredsenvy> yes
[16:04] <reg3x> hi Could anyone help me installing my sound device? I can't make it work
[16:04] <neredsenvy> However if I select either Install ubuntu again or Try ubuntu I just get ubuntu logo and loading dots
[16:04] <georgi> lgl
[16:05] <ioria> neredsenvy, it does not go ahead ?
[16:05] <TJ-> neredsenvy: OK, now its making sense. So, the flashing cursor could be due to a bug in the PC's firmware/BIOS, or it could be due to a problem with the installation. You need to boot the device using the "Try Ubuntu" option so you can do further diagnosis. If you're getting a black screen doing that it'll need the 'nomodeset' option adding at the 'Try Ubuntu' stage
[16:06] <neredsenvy> no just keeps loading
[16:06] <ioria> neredsenvy,  as we said before, press F6 and choose nomodeset
[16:06] <neredsenvy> ioria, Duting which time
[16:06] <TJ-> neredsenvy: there's a relatively commong BIOS bug where the boot-loader and the BIOS internal functions use the wrong number to represent the boot device, which prevents the boot-loader reading the rest of its core image from the correct device. You might be able to work around that by going into the BIOS Setup, Boot Order options, and ensuring the hard disk is the 1st and only device listed
[16:06] <neredsenvy> right after power up ?
[16:07] <ioria> neredsenvy,  no, before press 'Try'
[16:07] <neredsenvy> ok
[16:07] <ioria> neredsenvy,  you first need to get the main menu
[16:08] <ioria> neredsenvy,  then you press F6, then 'Try'
[16:09] <neredsenvy> let's see
[16:09] <Agent_Isai> Hi, while doing apt-get update I got: "E: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com wily-updates InRelease: Could not execute 'gpgv' to verify signature (is gpgv installed?)" gpgv is installed and I tried to reinstall the keyring but that didn't work. Any idea why this might've happened?
[16:09] <neredsenvy> pressed F6 kinda 'refreshed the menu' and then I selected try
[16:09] <neredsenvy> now it's loading ubuntu
[16:10] <ioria> neredsenvy,  did you select nomodeset ?
[16:10] <neredsenvy> there was nothing to select
[16:11] <ioria> neredsenvy,  what are installing exactly, i  mean a deesktop iso ?
[16:11] <neredsenvy> yes
[16:11] <neredsenvy> If I press F6 it just refreshes the menu
[16:11] <ioria> neredsenvy,  15.10  ?
[16:11] <neredsenvy> 14.04
[16:12] <neredsenvy> I can press TAB to edit menu entry
[16:12] <neredsenvy> : ?
[16:12] <TJ-> neredsenvy: if you highlight "Try Ubuntu" and press 'e' do you get an Editor area?
[16:13] <neredsenvy> nope
[16:13] <TJ-> neredsenvy: if so it has booted using GRUB, which infers it is a UEFI mode boot, not BIOS (which uses syslinux/isolinux)
[16:13] <ioria> neredsenvy,  you have to go in 'help'
[16:14] <neredsenvy> ok in help says F2 to F10 for details or ENTER to boot
[16:14] <xela2244> How to install metacity-themes on ubuntu GNOME 15.10? (option missing in gnome-tweak-tool)
[16:16] <neredsenvy> ioria, In help I pressed enter held shift
[16:16] <neredsenvy> I get a bunch of text now
[16:16] <anabain> Can anybody take a look at that?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14094182/   under /media dir I have two hdds and there are also user own folders, floppy, etc. If I mount the hdds explicitly on fstab I can also access the other dirs in addition to the hdds dirs. Is there a problem with permissions?
[16:16] <anabain> I'm using 14.04, updated
[16:17] <neredsenvy> last message could not write /var/cache/debconf/config.dat-new: Input/output error
[16:18] <ioria> neredsenvy,  yep, i resume a 14.04 usb and it's not working ...
[16:19] <neredsenvy> ioria, What do I do in Help menu ?
[16:19] <anabain> This is the correct paste, sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14099564/
[16:20] <ioria> neredsenvy,  you may edit the line , pressing tab once you have highlighted 'Try'
[16:21] <neredsenvy> What do i type in
[16:21] <anabain> BTW, regarding to my posted problem, which are the correct permission settings for the /media dir and its subdirs?
[16:21] <L0rD`> /away
[16:21] <ioria> neredsenvy,  nomodeset
[16:22] <neredsenvy> let's see
[16:22] <ioria> neredsenvy, 32 or 64 bit ?
[16:23] <neredsenvy> 64
[16:24] <neredsenvy> Still loading ubuntu does not seem like a difference
[16:25] <ioria> neredsenvy, have you checked your bios ?
[16:25] <hendra> hai pantom
[16:25] <neredsenvy> for which settings
[16:27] <neredsenvy> what's the safest way to create a ubuntu usb on windows
[16:27] <daftykins> UUI from pendrivelinux.com works fine
[16:27] <neredsenvy> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[16:27] <ioria> neredsenvy, if you're uefi, be sure you're booting the right media (labeled as efi) ,  and your hhd
[16:27] <daftykins> no program needed if you're using EFI, just format a flash drive as FAT32 and extract the ISO contents onto it
[16:29] <meowwhat> pendrivelinux is what I use
[16:29] <meowwhat> super easy
[16:31] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[16:32] <carrera> ubuntu mate 15.10 recognizes my external monitor but doesn't send any signal
[16:33] <carrera> any ideas as to why?
[16:34] <Zteam> Hi!
[16:34] <Zteam> Anbody else here using Aptana Studio on Ubuntu these days?
[16:34] <neredsenvy> Well nothing is working
[16:35] <neredsenvy> Great
[16:35] <neredsenvy> no wait we ahve a black screen
[16:35] <neredsenvy> and
[16:35] <neredsenvy> yaay
[16:35] <neredsenvy> ubuntu try worked
[16:35] <neredsenvy> nope got a black screen gain
[16:36] <neredsenvy> ok works
[16:37] <neredsenvy> and we are editing grub : ))
[16:38] <OerHeks> Zteam, last version is over an year old, and not in our repositories
[16:39] <neredsenvy> ioria2, In try now I updated the grub file on the mounder HDD how can I run update-grub but not for try for the hdd os
[16:39] <neredsenvy> or do I not have to if I'm rebooting ?
[16:39] <ioria2> neredsenvy: what do you wanna do ? update-grun from live ?
[16:40] <anabain> TJ-, could you have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14099564/ ?  Under /media dir I have two hdds and there are also user own folders, floppy, etc. If I mount the hdds explicitly on fstab I can also access the other dirs in addition to the hdds dirs. Is there a problem with permissions? I'm on ubuntu 14.04 updated. BTW, regarding to this problem, which are the correct permission settings for the /media dir and its subdirs?
[16:40] <ioria2> neredsenvy: are you sure is the problem ?
[16:41] <neredsenvy> ioria2, I used try to get to terminal to change the grub file to add nomodeset
[16:41] <neredsenvy> do i nedd to run update-grub
[16:41] <neredsenvy> if so how do I do it from try for the hdd os
[16:42] <ioria> neredsenvy, you mounted your partition on /mnt and  and edited /etc/default/grub ?
[16:42] <neredsenvy> yes
[16:42] <neredsenvy> rebooted now but still getting the cursor I'm geussing that's cuss update-grub was not run
[16:43] <ioria> neredsenvy, to run update-grub you need to bind mount and chroot
[16:43] <neredsenvy> how do i do that
[16:44] <ioria> neredsenvy, how can you know that is the problem ? , i mean you could edit again grub set it to show on boot and edit the kernel line
[16:44] <neredsenvy> I don't know it's what was suggested here and on google
[16:44] <neredsenvy> that it's a dedicated GPU problem
[16:44] <neredsenvy> to add nomodeset
[16:45] <neredsenvy> what should I do anyone at all able to help
[16:45] <ioria> neredsenvy, boot again the live, mount your partition, edit /etc/default/grub an comment GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[16:46] <ioria> neredsenvy, with a '#', so the next reboot you'll get the grub screen and you edit it
[16:47] <neredsenvy> ok drive mounted
[16:47] <ioria> neredsenvy, cd /mnt  and edit /etc/default/grub
[16:48] <lulcat> GRUUUB!!!
[16:48] <neredsenvy> done
[16:48] <neredsenvy> saved
[16:49] <neredsenvy> anything else or try to boot to HDD now ?
[16:49] <ioria> neredsenvy, umount and reboot ....
[16:49] <ioria> neredsenvy, sudo parted -l
[16:49] <TJ-> ioria: neredsenvy editing /etc/default/grub is not going to change anything, unless you also chroot to the target and run update-grub
[16:49] <ioria> neredsenvy, TJ- is righr
[16:50] <ioria> neredsenvy, forgot that
[16:50] <neredsenvy> ok have not restarted yet
[16:50] <neredsenvy> remounting
[16:50] <ioria> neredsenvy, pressing shift is not showing the grub ?
[16:51] <Jakey> hey gus
[16:51] <neredsenvy> I have not restarted yet
[16:51] <neredsenvy> mounter the drive back to run update-grub
[16:51] <Jakey> why i don't see any conf.d/ in my /etc/php5/ directory
[16:51] <Jakey> only /etc/php5/apache2/ /etc/php5/cli/ /etc/php5/mods-available/
[16:51] <ioria> neredsenvy, i mean, if you press shift , right after the bios, you don't get the grub screen ?
[16:52] <TJ-> neredsenvy: does the PC in live mode have network access?
[16:52] <Jakey> HELP PLEASE/???????????????
[16:53] <neredsenvy> TJ-, yes
[16:53] <neredsenvy> I typed chroot /name-of-the-mounted-drive
[16:53] <neredsenvy> all good
[16:53] <neredsenvy> when I run sudo update-grub
[16:54] <ioria> neredsenvy, you need to bind mount .....
[16:54] <neredsenvy> how do I do that
[16:54] <mmacheerpuppy_> Hey!
[16:54] <mmacheerpuppy_> Can someone give me a hand with disk partitioning, the instructions are unclear
[16:54] <mmacheerpuppy_> I'm just on the road to doing my LPIC :)
[16:55] <ioria> neredsenvy, if you press shift , right after the bios, you don't get the grub screen ?
[16:55] <Jakey> i'm getting this
[16:55] <Jakey> WARNING: Module mycrypt ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php5/mods-available
[16:55] <neredsenvy> No
[16:55] <Jakey> wtfffff
[16:55] <mmacheerpuppy_> I know how to write to GRUB
[16:55] <mmacheerpuppy_> if it helps
[16:55] <ioria> neredsenvy, sudo parted -l
[16:55] <mmacheerpuppy_> You might want to repair your GRUB installation it sounds like
[16:56] <neredsenvy> ioria, I get 1  -primary ext4, 2 extended, 5 logical linux-swap(v1)
[16:56] <Jakey> please helppmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:56] <ioria> neredsenvy, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[16:56] <mmacheerpuppy_> boodllebat: Hey
[16:57] <TJ-> neredsenvy: can you do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f; sudo parted -l; sudo chroot </path/to/mountpoint> ls -latr /boot/ /boot/grub/ )" (replace <path/to/mountpoint> correctly)
[16:57] <mmacheerpuppy_> boodllebat: Do you know much about /var and /tmp
[16:58] <boodllebat> mmacheerpuppy_: i don't know much, but you can ask your problem here
[16:59] <mmacheerpuppy_> boodllebat: Well I understand it's good to have them as a fixed size
[16:59] <mmacheerpuppy_> boodllebat: but i dont know how big I should make them
[17:00] <neredsenvy> ioria, TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/14100366/
[17:00] <TJ-> mmacheerpuppy_: I use LVM, and assign 6-8GiB initially to the /var file-system
[17:00] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: I mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation says 5GB for /tmp AND /var. Now is that conjunctively, so about 2.5 each or?
[17:00] <ioria> neredsenvy, ok msdos .... not using uefi     sudo lshw -c video | pastebinit
[17:01] <boodllebat> mmacheerpuppy_: i'm a rookie i'm not sure about it
[17:01] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: I really don't want to reduce usability but I only have 70gb to work with on this machine
[17:01] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: And I wannnnt tooo install counter strike on it too sooooo :^)
[17:02] <Zteam> OerHeks, yes, I know, unfortunately it seems rather unstable too :-/
[17:02] <TJ-> mmacheerpuppy_: 5GiB each would be a good margin for all eventualities. You can take those lower if you keep an eye on things. E.g. /var/cache/apt/archive and /var/log/ and others can grow over time
[17:03] <neredsenvy> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14100441/
[17:03] <TJ-> mmacheerpuppy_: contents of /tmp/ are deleted on each reboot, so that doesn't need to be massive. 1 GiB should generally be enough even when doing archive file opening, downloading/viewing PDFs, and so on
[17:03] <ioria> neredsenvy  it'a a laptop ...
[17:03] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: Aye but you want to keep it fixed to prevent flooding
[17:04] <neredsenvy> ioria, Yes
[17:04] <TJ-> mmacheerpuppy_: flooding ?
[17:04] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-:  Putting a limit on /tmp size if it is mounted as tmpfs is to prevent a DOS attack. If one service was compromised or one user malicious they could simply write to /tmp until all of the swap and memory would be occupied.
[17:04] <ioria> neredsenvy  and when you boot normally you get a flashing cursor or what ?
[17:05] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: From what I understand at least
[17:05] <neredsenvy> flashing cursor yes
[17:05] <ioria> neredsenvy  it's a fresh install ?
[17:05] <neredsenvy> yes
[17:05] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: I'm just studying for my LPIC exam. I work in first line support and know a literal fuck tonne about programming languages, I've written object orientated programs in Python to do heavy duty switch configurations in the past and stuff
[17:05] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: I really want to do SYSADMIN
[17:06] <mmacheerpuppy_> TJ-: and being stuck on first line is kind of frustrating
[17:06] <daftykins> mmacheerpuppy_: don't use that language in here please.
[17:06] <mmacheerpuppy_> daftykins: trigger warning
[17:06] <daftykins> what?
[17:07] <ioria> neredsenvy  ok .... you could try to boot in text mode and then restart lightdm or set grub to nomodeset ....
[17:07] <neredsenvy> how do i do this
[17:07] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: why do you bother with manual partitions of /var  and such at all? why not just /, /home and eventually swap parititon?
[17:08] <daftykins> ^ probably heard of common server setup approaches
[17:08] <mmacheerpuppy_> k1l: Well from what I've read it's for security measures, and this is my first Linux installation that I'll be connecting to my network so I want to make sure I do it right
[17:09] <k1l> is it a server?
[17:09] <ioria> neredsenvy  mount | pastebinit
[17:09] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: for the average joe desktop install, /,/home and swap is the best case. no need to worry about full partitions spoiling all the system
[17:10] <neredsenvy> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14100602/
[17:11] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: if you want the "full linux guru" package you are free to make that partitions you like, but you will need to read the documentations and get to know what you need to size them for. (and most times adjust them afterwards because the size was wrong at the start :) )
[17:11] <ioria> neredsenvy sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[17:12] <neredsenvy> ioria, No errors now what
[17:12] <ioria> neredsenvy sudo mount --bind  /dev  /mnt/dev
[17:12] <neredsenvy> ok
[17:12] <ioria> neredsenvy sudo mount --bind  /proc  /mnt/proc
[17:13] <neredsenvy> done
[17:13] <ioria> neredsenvy sudo mount --bind  /sys  /mnt/sys
[17:13] <mmacheerpuppy_> k1l: Basically yeah. I'm a big believer of throwing myself in the deep-end. That's how I've gotten good at a lot of things, mixed martial arts being one of them. But I hate being stuck in first line support when I'm the kind of person who is persistently motivated to do other things and I feel right now Linux sysadmin is a best avenue for a new career.
[17:13] <neredsenvy> ok
[17:13] <ioria> neredsenvy sudo mount --bind  /run  /mnt/run
[17:13] <daftykins> no /var being separate is not for security, it's so if something bad happens that spams the logs, the partition filling up doesn't affect the rest of the OS.
[17:14] <neredsenvy> ok
[17:14] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo chroot /mnt
[17:14] <mmacheerpuppy_> k1l: So your advice would be, make a standard Linux installation, then LEARN about tmp/var in greater detail, then worry about their uses later
[17:14] <neredsenvy> done
[17:14] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: yes.
[17:14] <mmacheerpuppy_> k1l: gotcha
[17:15] <neredsenvy> update-grub now ?
[17:15] <ioria> neredsenvy   now edit /etc/default/grub
[17:15] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: there is no need to worry about situations you dont get to know because you dont use that level.
[17:15] <ioria> neredsenvy   now edit /etc/default/grub   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT    and add nomodeset
[17:15] <k1l> mmacheerpuppy_: this way you get a working ubuntu install and can get to know the more complicated stuff while using it.
[17:16] <neredsenvy> done
[17:16] <neredsenvy> do I uncomment HIDDEN_TIMEOUT = 0
[17:16] <ioria> neredsenvy   update-grub
[17:16] <neredsenvy> ok
[17:16] <ioria> neredsenvy   leave it ... with the #
[17:17] <neredsenvy> ok
[17:17] <neredsenvy> update-grub running now
[17:17] <neredsenvy> it's done
[17:17] <mmacheerpuppy_> k1l: gotcha, good motivation to learn how to repartition these drives within the installation too i guess
[17:17] <ioria> neredsenvy   now umount
[17:17] <ioria> neredsenvy   sorry, exit and unmount
[17:18] <ioria> neredsenvy   exit from chroot and sudo umount /mnt/dev   proc sys
[17:19] <neredsenvy> I get special device unmount does not exist
[17:20] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo umount /mnt/dev
[17:20] <neredsenvy> worked
[17:20] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo umount /mnt/proc
[17:20] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo umount /mnt/sys
[17:20] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo umount /mnt/
[17:22] <neredsenvy> sudo umount /mnt/ /mnt device is busy
[17:22] <neredsenvy> (In some cases useful info..)
[17:22] <heelflip> type cd , then sudo umount /mnt
[17:22] <ioria> neredsenvy   ok, now reboot , without the usb
[17:24] <neredsenvy> ioria, Annnddd I'm back at the cursor : ((
[17:25] <heelflip> neredsenvy: what's the problem exactly?
[17:25] <ioria> neredsenvy   reinstall     ?  just saying .... :þ
[17:25] <TJ-> neredsenvy: You really need to identify the cause of that cursor. If it is the BIOS bug I talked about originally then no amount of editing the GRUB config is going to fix that
[17:25] <TJ-> neredsenvy: that flashing cursor top-left is expected if the BIOS has the bug, and prevents the bootloader from reading its core image file
[17:25] <neredsenvy> god damn it
[17:26] <neredsenvy> ok I'll try to reinstall
[17:26] <neredsenvy> not sure about BIOS tho
[17:26] <neredsenvy> what setting should be changed
[17:26] <ioria> heelflip, hybrid amd /intel  laptop , smooth installation , no boot
[17:26] <heelflip> uefi?
[17:26] <TJ-> neredsenvy: you can tell pretty easily by the time it takes for the flashing cursor to show - if it happens in a less than a second from the last BIOS message/display you see, then it is the bug in the firmware
[17:26] <ioria> heelflip, no http://paste.ubuntu.com/14100366/
[17:27] <heelflip> ty
[17:27] <ioria> brb
[17:27] <neredsenvy> no UEFI setting
[17:28] <heelflip> neredsenvy: did you try to grub-install?
[17:28] <heelflip> or only update-grub?
[17:28] <TJ-> neredsenvy: as I said earlier, in BIOS Setup Boot Order, make sure the hard disk is the 1st and only boot device.
[17:28] <neredsenvy> HDD is on the list and is first
[17:28] <TJ-> neredsenvy: OK, so how long does it take to see the flashing cursor ?
[17:29] <TJ-> neredsenvy: is it almost instantly (much less than 1 second) ?
[17:29] <neredsenvy> shows acer logo and goes directly to cursor
[17:30] <TJ-> neredsenvy: right, so it is what I'm talking about then.
[17:30] <heelflip> neredsenvy: did you try to reinstall grub? or only update-grub?
[17:30] <neredsenvy> yup
[17:30] <neredsenvy> going to try to reinstall now
[17:30] <heelflip> you ran grub-install
[17:30] <TJ-> neredsenvy: there is a possiblilty that the GRUB boot loader didn't get correctly installed, but from what we've seen in the diagnostics so far, that's unlikely
[17:31] <TJ-> neredsenvy: whats the make/model of the PC?
[17:32] <neredsenvy> Acer Aspire 5943G
[17:32] <TJ-> neredsenvy: recently we've seen a lot of bugs in Acer firmwares, I'll check if we've seen that one
[17:33] <heelflip> neredsenvy: i dont think ran grub-install
[17:33] <anabain> (ubuntu 14.04) How are permissions to be set in /media dir in order to allow rbind work and not complain about permissions problems. Right now I can't ls my rbind /media/user/USBdevice mounted at the rbind mount .i.e. /deuteros/media/user/USBdevice. As root, ls on the rbind mount outputs nothing. As the user, it complains about not having permission.
[17:33] <heelflip> *you ran
[17:34] <neredsenvy> I'm reinstalling the OS again
[17:34] <neredsenvy> let's see what happens
[17:34] <silidan> hi, i have an old machine running linux kernel 2.6 that cant read ext4, but on that old machine is a harddrive with several ext4 partitiots on it, lets call dem sdb5 and sdb6. now i have a brand new ubuntu machine and i would like to access the harddrive in the old machine which contains a filesystem the old machine cant read (ext4) any idea how i can do this?
[17:35] <daftykins> silidan: from a live session.
[17:35] <daftykins> boot one
[17:35] <silidan> daftykins: no chance, not enough ram
[17:35] <daftykins> silidan: use something like puppy linux though
[17:36] <daftykins> doesn't need to be fully ubuntu just for a quick disk access and data juggle
[17:36] <OerHeks> lubuntu would do, even with 512 mb
[17:36] <silidan> isnt there a way to give low level access to sdb5 and sdb6 on the old machine over netwrok?
[17:36] <coelho> Hi, I have a question. I have a DVI to VGA adapter to connect one of my monitors and it isn't recognized. I can't put a higher resolution. I have tried xrandr with no luck. anyone had to deal with the same situation ?!
[17:37] <silidan> OerHeks: nice to hear, unfortunatly im at 128MB ram
[17:37] <silidan> daftykins: ill check out puppy then
[17:37] <daftykins> silidan: or tiny core is the other one i think, i forget the little ones
[17:37] <anabain> any ideas?
[17:38] <silidan> coelho: dvi to vga adapter requires the graphics card to have the analog signal lines in the dvi connector actually used...
[17:39] <silidan> coelho: if your graphics card doesnt put out an analog signal over its dvi port then you are out of luck
[17:39] <coelho> it works at 1280x1024
[17:39] <coelho> but i can't put higher resolutions,
[17:39] <coelho> :|
[17:39] <daftykins> coelho: it's failing to read the EDID because VGA is rubbish.
[17:40] <silidan> coelho: ok so your graficscard works analo, good, then its probably just a question of EDID stuff..
[17:40] <daftykins> avoid VGA where possible
[17:40] <TJ-> silidan: install fuseext2 package; it can read ext2/3/4 in userspace
[17:40] <TJ-> !info fuseext2 | silidan
[17:40] <coelho> old monitor without any other form of connection.
[17:40] <coelho> I saw some digital to analogic adapters
[17:41] <coelho> do you think i will have more luck with one of those ?
[17:41] <silidan> TJ-: thanks, but the system is so old all the repos moved... currently no repo access...
[17:41] <daftykins> coelho: don't throw more money at it, running analog is the mistake here
[17:41] <TJ-> silidan: replace them in sources.list with old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <silidan> coelho: no, i think you would do better teaching your system what your monitor can do
[17:42] <silidan> TJ-: thanks
[17:42] <root_> k
[17:42] <coelho> silidan, are you telling me to make a xorg conf file ?
[17:43] <silidan> coelho: basically yes
[17:43] <neredsenvy> Ok installation completed fingers crossed now
[17:43] <silidan> coelho: although there might be an easier way... EDID
[17:43] <k1l> coelho: its not needed today. but if you make one it will be used.
[17:43] <coelho> Silidan I'm not getting the EDID info
[17:44] <coelho> the converter must lose it
[17:44] <coelho> in windows is the same
[17:44] <silidan> coelho: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316985
[17:44] <anabain> Then, a dynamically USB device mounted at /media/user/USBdevice won't be seen through its rbind mount?
[17:44] <k1l> coelho: adapters are known to be an issue. try to set the EDID yourself
[17:46] <coelho> thx guys :D i will try that
[17:46] <gambl0re> when i try to install gulp using "npm install --global gulp" i get error msgs. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a66907373aa580044a6 . any suggestions?
[17:46] <neredsenvy> OMG
[17:47] <neredsenvy> It worked
[17:47] <neredsenvy> finally
[17:47] <silidan> coelho: dont follow it blindly its from 2006
[17:47] <TJ-> neredsenvy: thank goodness!
[17:47] <neredsenvy> did a full reinstall
[17:47] <neredsenvy> and it works now
[17:47] <TJ-> neredsenvy: earlier you mentioned seeing an "I/O error" I wonder if there's a problem with the hard disk that affected things
[17:47] <coelho> silidan, shure :)
[17:48] <neredsenvy> guessing something went wrong during installation
[17:48] <neredsenvy> second installation was slower than first one
[17:48] <Simonious> I did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oxyum/backports to get dfu-util0.8-1 as shown: https://launchpad.net/~oxyum/+archive/ubuntu/backports but all of the things I've attempted have still only resulted in dfu-util 0.5-1, what did I miss?
[17:48] <daftykins> neredsenvy: i think based on what TJ- said, you should be checking your hard disks' condition
[17:50] <k1l> Simonious: "apt-cache policy dfu-util " in a pastebin please
[17:50] <anabain> Ok, I think I'll change my nick to "the invisible man"
[17:51] <Simonious> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Xjr45d04
[17:51] <ioria> neredsenvy   so the issue wsa ?
[17:51] <ioria> *was
[17:52] <k1l> Simonious: you are using arm. that is a very important info
[17:52] <Simonious> k1l: yes BeagleBoneBlack
[17:52] <daftykins> ugh, you need to state ARM first.
[17:52] <k1l> Simonious: PPAS must be accepted to be build for arm.
[17:52] <Simonious> my apologies
[17:53] <k1l> so most probably you will need to compile it yourself
[17:53] <Simonious> ahh.. so I'll have to compile it myself?
[17:53]  * Simonious chuckles
[17:53] <Simonious> alright then, thanks
[17:54] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[17:55] <neredsenvy> ioria, Not could be bad installation
[17:55] <neredsenvy> I checked the disk now
[17:55] <neredsenvy> passed ok
[17:55] <ioria> neredsenvy   good, happy for you
[17:56] <neredsenvy> so I'm guessing something went wrong with either first attempt at making the usb or at first installation
[17:56] <neredsenvy> i remade the usb and reinstalled and now works
[17:56] <neredsenvy> Tho Ubuntu 14.04 feels bit sluggish
[17:56] <neredsenvy> Win 7 was snappy
[17:57] <ioria> neredsenvy   mmm...
[17:57] <neredsenvy> Like I open Firefox and it takes 15s to load Ubuntu start page : P
[17:57] <ioria> neredsenvy   cpu ? ram ?
[17:58] <neredsenvy> i5 quad 2.7GHz 8GB 1666MHz
[17:58] <ioria> neredsenvy   that's very good
[17:59] <ioria> neredsenvy   sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:00] <MrTJB> ...any help with daemon and also aptitude(/install, update, upgrade) errors?.. cant really give no command even as root. i think should reinstall whole system right or?
[18:01] <neredsenvy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14101672/
[18:01] <daftykins> neredsenvy: like i said you need to check your hard disk. "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[18:02] <ioria> neredsenvy   yes, better a check-up   .... does your mb support uefi ?
[18:04] <neredsenvy> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14101729/
[18:05] <compdoc> neredsenvy, is it a laptop?
[18:05] <daftykins> start/stop count is 36 thousand!?
[18:06] <daftykins> neredsenvy: it's a little warmer than i'd recommend but other than that, looks ok
[18:06] <compdoc> neredsenvy, most of those stats are good, except G-Sense_Error_Rate      350
[18:06] <neredsenvy> compdoc, Laptop ye
[18:07] <compdoc> neredsenvy, that start/stop count is probably the heads constantly parking. theres a util to turn that off
[18:07] <neredsenvy> I'll try it
[18:07] <neredsenvy> which tool ?
[18:07] <daftykins> no i don't think they'd increment that value for a head park
[18:07] <compdoc> some ppl dont like it, but being a laptop, parking the heads when not in use is probably a good thing
[18:08] <daftykins> those WD blues do sound quite noisy for it ;)
[18:08] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:09] <compdoc> neredsenvy, if you have a problem with a drive, dont bother trying to fix the start/stop thing
[18:09] <compdoc> it wont help the problem
[18:10] <neredsenvy> odd tho programs are superfast to start
[18:11] <neredsenvy> but websites load super slow
[18:11] <neredsenvy> ill try etherenet
[18:11] <daftykins> i smell wifi driver trouble
[18:14] <wawrek> hello, I have a lenovo yoga laptop. I try to install ubuntu on it from a usb key (I created it with pendrivelinux as specified here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows)
[18:14] <compdoc> neredsenvy, you have a pretty high Load_Cycle_Count, so you might want to run the util. Its named WDIDLE3, I think. Theres lots of info in forums about this problem
[18:14] <daftykins> wawrek: and?
[18:14] <wawrek> the problem is that when I try to boot from the usb and try ubuntu without installing, it cannot detect the networks
[18:14] <wawrek> no internet
[18:15] <nereds> oi
[18:15] <ioria> neredsenvy   or install in efi mode, if supported
[18:15] <daftykins> you probably need some additional input there, which version are you trying, wawrek ?
[18:15] <wawrek> so i am quite afraid of installing if the system is offline
[18:16] <wawrek> I tried ubuntu 14.04.3 and 15.10
[18:16] <daftykins> wawrek: i would boot up the live session again, then run "lshw -C network" and "lspci" then put the output of those in a text file on another flash drive if possible, then bring them back here
[18:16] <daftykins> wawrek: is it a yoga 3 pro, or?
[18:17] <wawrek> yoga 500-14ibd
[18:17] <nereds> ioria, In installed Chrome and it's blazing fast now
[18:17] <nereds> everything works as should no idea what's going on with Firefox
[18:18] <ioria> nereds ... intereresting... try a sudo apt-get update, upgrade , dist-upgrade
[18:18] <lugarius> I installed ubuntu on my Pc, and ticked the 3rd party software(Mp3) , where is the coded?
[18:18] <wawrek> daftykins:  will do that
[18:18] <lugarius> *codec
[18:18] <daftykins> ioria: there's no point doing all 3 ;) just the first and last!
[18:19] <ioria> nereds ... right... you can also   apt full-upgrade
[18:21] <lugarius> I installed ubuntu on my Pc, and ticked the 3rd party software(Mp3) , where is the codec?
[18:22] <ioria> lugarius, what you mean ?
[18:22] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)?
[18:23] <anabain> right now trying to ls complains about permissions. As root, ls outputs nothing...
[18:24] <lugarius> ioria I downloaded ubuntu, booted it , started the installation with the (do you want to install the 3rd party software) yes, and installed it.  but I cant still not play Mp3 files
[18:25] <ioria> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <lugarius> .....and?
[18:26] <anabain> lugarius: http://askubuntu.com/questions/565861/unable-to-play-mp3-in-ubuntu-14-04
[18:26] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:26] <ioria> lugarius, try to install it ... but depends also on the app you use to play it
[18:27] <ioria> lugarius, if you use the command-line sox, for example, you need an additional pkg
[18:28] <lugarius> well, the problem is, at beginn I checked the option that ubuntu installs it... why it wasn't installed
[18:28] <lugarius> is this checkbox a joke to anoy people?
[18:28] <jak2000> hi all
[18:29] <JermBeatz> whats the most effective way to search for a channel relevant to what you need help with? trying to not be unneccessary anywhere lol
[18:29] <daftykins> lugarius: don't be ridiculous
[18:29] <anabain> Hi, jak2000
[18:29] <jak2000> i have 1 nic, inserted one more (a second) nic, but ifconfig only see 1
[18:29] <jak2000> how to check?
[18:30] <anabain> lspci, jak2000
[18:30] <ioria> jak2000, sudo lshw -c network
[18:30] <OerHeks> !restricted| lugarius
[18:31] <lugarius> daftykins,  I just want to know what this checkbox makes
[18:31] <jak2000> ioria, anabain: http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[18:31] <daftykins> lugarius: so are you going to confirm that package is on?
[18:32] <ioria> jak2000, network:1 DISABLED    sudo ifup ......
[18:32] <lugarius> what?
[18:33] <jak2000> sudo ifup eth1
[18:33] <jak2000> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[18:33] <ioria> lugarius, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22285/clarification-of-the-third-party-software-options-during-system-installation
[18:33] <jak2000> checking continue disabled
[18:34] <ioria> jak2000, lspci
[18:34] <anabain> what are the names of your network card devices, jak2000 ? ethX or something else?
[18:35] <zykotick9> !alis | JermBeatz
[18:37] <JermBeatz> ubottu: may need to dumb it down for me just a bit, in freenode how do i find "alis"?
[18:37] <lugarius> ioria thanks, this helps a bit, but I still checked the box, and flash wasn't installed
[18:38] <ioria> lugarius, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?  (i k that does not answer your q)
[18:38] <IBM_CLONE> Is anyone here familiar with web server site IRC like chat services?
[18:38] <anabain> jak2000, have you tried:   sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo ifup eth1  ?
[18:38] <lugarius> ioria no, I cant
[18:38] <IBM_CLONE> There is a service called: Mibit but I don't want to be a part of that domain.
[18:38] <ioria> lugarius, you can't ?
[18:39] <lugarius> no Internet on the Pc
[18:39] <tgm4883> IBM_CLONE: like a web IRC client?
[18:39] <IBM_CLONE> I would like my own server to provide website instant chat.
[18:39] <ioria> lugarius, you installed without internet ?
[18:39] <IBM_CLONE> Yes TGM. Thanks for answering. :)
[18:40] <ioria> lugarius, if so, no 3rd party software
[18:40] <lugarius> yes
[18:40] <lugarius> why?
[18:40] <ioria> lugarius, it needs to download, i think
[18:40] <IBM_CLONE> If you go to Godaddy you will be greeted by a sales rep and you can type a conversation like IRC.
[18:41] <tgm4883> IBM_CLONE: well I'm not sure of any self standing chat server software, although I'm sure some exists. If you were looking for a web client that would connect to regular IRC servers there are a bunch
[18:41] <lugarius> ioria that makes no sense, why is this button even there if I need to download it
[18:41] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:41] <ioria> lugarius, if you have connection ...
[18:41] <IBM_CLONE> Well, not every one in the internet knows about IRC so a server side chat channel would suffice.
[18:41] <OerHeks> but carefull, irc servers need protection.
[18:41] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)?
[18:42] <dretnx> Can I install Wubi on windows 10 partition?
[18:42] <ioria> lugarius, for copyright reason , those codecs cannot be embedded in the ubuntu.iso, i guess
[18:42] <OerHeks> dretnx, no
[18:42] <OerHeks> !wubi
[18:42] <livewithhonor> Greetings. Having a little trouble understanding file paths in linux
[18:42] <lugarius> ioria FACEPALM
[18:43] <ioria> lugarius, so, you need to download elesewhere
[18:43] <livewithhonor> .gnome2/gedit/plugins/ under your home directory.
[18:43] <tgm4883> ioria: I would say it's probably space reasons rather than copyright reasons. But you could be right
[18:43] <lugarius> THIS is the reason why Linux Mint is more popular
[18:43] <livewithhonor> can someone tell me where that is?
[18:43] <tgm4883> lugarius: linux mint isn't more popular
[18:43] <ioria> tgm4883, to be honest, i'm not sure ....
[18:43] <OerHeks> lugarius, stop that troll, those 3th party packages need internet, as stated.
[18:44] <anabain> lugarius, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras check "inclusion"
[18:44] <lugarius> MINT over 3000 hits per day
[18:44] <ioria> lugarius, anyway, any linux distro , without internet,  ..... ? come on :þ
[18:45] <lugarius> mint is better than ubuntu
[18:45] <ioria> lugarius, you lie :þ
[18:45] <daftykins> lugarius: it's not more popular, Mint has its' own issues and such a poor community people keep faking they're running ubuntu to come in here and ask questions.
[18:45] <tgm4883> lugarius: Spend any amount of time in this channel and you'll figure out pretty quickly that Mint is not more popular than Ubuntu. It being better or not is subjective
[18:45] <daftykins> lugarius: if you can't install one package via tickbox as most folk can, then the issue lies with you.
[18:45] <lugarius> so much pointless, an button on install that does nothing
[18:45] <lugarius> please kik me,  Ubuntu sucks
[18:46] <daftykins> lugarius: stop complaining now thanks, you're being pathetic.
[18:46] <lugarius> MINT 4 ever
[18:46] <tgm4883> anabain: FWIW, that does have a "citation needed"
[18:46] <tgm4883> lugarius: and yet you are here ;)
[18:46] <ioria> lugarius, may i ask you why 'no internet' ?
[18:46] <lugarius> KIck me, I cant close on this shitty irc client
[18:46] <tgm4883> lugarius: so... more reasons to think the problem is you then?
[18:47] <daftykins> troll confirmed
[18:47] <OerHeks> next!
[18:47] <lugarius> I have no Internet, I cant install needed software...  mint has Mp3 and everything pre installed
[18:47] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/
[18:48] <anabain> tgm4883, taking it on the strict side: I pointed at that to make our friend aware that he shouldn't expect these packages to be included in a DVD.
[18:48] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: which would be /home/<USERNAME>/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/
[18:48] <lugarius> please kick me,  UBUNTU spyware shit
[18:48] <wawrek> hello, I have a lenovo yoga 500 14IBD. I try to install ubuntu from a usb key (created with pendrivelinux as specified here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows). When I try to boot from the usb and test ubuntu, there is any wireless network detected - it does not work. I have no ethernet port on that laptop. Here is the paste of "lshw -C network" and...
[18:48] <wawrek> ..."lspci": http://paste.ubuntu.com/14102594/
[18:48] <lugarius> KICK ME
[18:48] <tgm4883> !ops
[18:48] <tgm4883> lugarius: working on it
[18:49] <OerHeks> There are rules to make a linux distro proffesional, lugarius, and mint does not apply to that.
[18:49] <ProbablyAndy> does /quit not work?  that must be a terrible irc client.
[18:49] <lugarius> thanks, ubuntu has much to learn about user frienly
[18:49] <tgm4883> lugarius: what IRC client?
[18:49] <lugarius> yaiic on android 1.2
[18:50] <livewithhonor> tgm4883 tyvm :-)
[18:50] <lugarius> outdated as fuck
[18:50] <tgm4883> lugarius: try /close
[18:50] <lugarius> nope
[18:50]  * tgm4883 doesn't believe you
[18:51] <lugarius> I'm still in this chan
[18:51] <OerHeks> remove battery
[18:51] <tgm4883> thank you
[18:51] <tgm4883> If anyone asked legit questions during all that can you ask again, because it was probably missed
[18:51] <livewithhonor> tgm4883 so Im guessing I need to create the .gnome2 dir?
[18:52] <livewithhonor> FYI I am attempting to get gedit ftp support working.
[18:52] <jak2000> ioria, anabain: http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[18:52] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: are you looking in nautilus?
[18:52] <jak2000> how to enable the second eth?
[18:52] <wawrek> is there someone sho could help me to troubleshoot the lack of wireless when truying to install ubuntu from a usb ?
[18:52] <livewithhonor> I'm clueless about nautilus but have seen that term a bit in the last hour.
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: it should already exist,  it's probably a hidden directory
[18:53] <livewithhonor> ah yes the .in front
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: nautilus is the file manager in ubuntu
[18:53] <bazhang> nautilus is the file explorer type deal
[18:53] <livewithhonor> how do I see hidden dirs?
[18:53] <daftykins> wawrek: ah missed your paste
[18:53] <tgm4883> livewithhonor: in nautilus, hit ctrl+h
[18:53] <anabain> jak2000, have you tried:  sudo ifconfig eth1; ifup eth1   ?
[18:53] <daftykins> !broadcom | wawrek see here for info on your Broadcom BCM4352
[18:53] <wawrek> daftykins: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14102594/
[18:54] <livewithhonor> ahhh okay gotcha
[18:54] <daftykins> wawrek: it looks like your wired should be working fine though.
[18:54] <wawrek> really ?
[18:54] <wawrek> ubottu: thanks
[18:55] <daftykins> !pm | nforse
[18:55] <daftykins> !ru | nforse
[18:56] <livewithhonor> This xchat irc program I d/l does not seem to have a chat scroll bar
[18:56] <EriC^^> livewithhonor: press pageup
[18:56] <daftykins> hexchat would be wiser
[18:57] <livewithhonor> wow okay thanks EriC^^
[18:57] <anabain> jak2000, any success?
[18:58] <kika> alguem aqui pode me dar um suporte em joomla?
[18:59] <wawrek> daftykins: do I need to create a different live linux usb? how to troubleshoot this?
[18:59] <livewithhonor> https://code.google.com/p/gedit-ftp-browser/ can someone verify this is still legit info?
[19:00] <livewithhonor> If anyone has a good color-by-numbers page on setting up gedit for ftp support I'd appreciate it.
[19:00] <daftykins> wawrek: what's your plan, dualboot beside Windows - or ubuntu only?
[19:00] <livewithhonor> Ubuntu only - kill windows.
[19:00] <wawrek> ubuntu only and I have one computer working...
[19:00] <livewithhonor> Just do it.
[19:00] <livewithhonor> yeayyy!
[19:00] <wawrek> yeah
[19:00] <daftykins> wawrek: just to confirm, you can't get wired LAN working on it either?
[19:01] <wawrek> how do you mean ?
[19:01] <mcphail> livewithhonor: shouldn't gedit open files from ftp in nautilus by default?
[19:01] <daftykins> wawrek: does it work with a cable plugged in from your router?
[19:01] <wawrek> daftykins: no ethernet port
[19:01] <daftykins> wawrek: your lspci paste says there is
[19:01] <daftykins> realtek RTL8111 gigabit ethernet
[19:02] <wawrek> there is lan
[19:02] <livewithhonor> mcphail I think my issue is having trouble hooking up to FTP thru nautilus
[19:02] <wawrek> foiund it :)
[19:02] <jak2000> anabain: http://pastie.org/10641920
[19:02] <mcphail> livewithhonor: in nautilus, press "ctrl-l" to see the location bar and type "ftp://whatever.site"
[19:03] <daftykins> wawrek: i would wipe the first 100MB of the disk with dd, install, then fully update it by being plugged into wired LAN
[19:03] <livewithhonor> also I'm not seeing the ftp browser plugin on the gedit plugin dialog
[19:03] <forester> good evening
[19:03] <mcphail> livewithhonor: I haven't used ftp for years, but assume this still works
[19:03] <wawrek> so i leave windows for a while...
[19:03] <wawrek> good :) will do that - thanks for the help
[19:07] <Nightelf> Hi, I'm trying to bind Super+D to show desktop but apparently it doesn't do any effect. Even tho it says minimize all normal windows => Super+D. Yet, Ctrl+Super+D is the key to minimize
[19:07] <Nightelf> any idea how can i change it super+D?
[19:07] <livewithhonor> mcphail I am now looking at my ftp thru nautilus... thanks! Next question - I should set up a local folder - need to edit local files ... is there an option in gedit to use hotkeys to go from local to remote file?
[19:07] <forester> I have downloaded last beta 3.1.3 tar and tryed to compile. But there is an error : /bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `cd .. && ./build_tools/autorevision -t h -o /home/master/Общедоступные/Программы (SOFTWARE)/warzone2100-3.1git/src/autorevision.cache > /home/master/Общедоступные/Программы (SOFTWARE)/warzone2100-3.1git/src/autorevision.h.new'
[19:07] <livewithhonor> Obviously do not want to edit the files remotely.
[19:08] <bekks> forester: last beta of what?
[19:08] <livewithhonor> I actually have a few questions - my team-mate and I want to set up subversion
[19:08] <forester> Warzone2100 from there site.
[19:08] <forester> 3.1.3
[19:08] <anabain> jak2000, you forgot sudo on the second command
[19:08] <bazhang> forester, try the warezone channel
[19:08] <forester> I did
[19:09] <bazhang> forester, then be patient
[19:09] <forester> There dev channel is closed
[19:09] <bazhang> forester, no need for the dev channel
[19:09] <forester> there main channel do not know
[19:09] <anabain> jak2000, sudo ifconfig eth1; sudo ifup eth1
[19:09] <forester> their member could not to answer on this question
[19:10] <jak2000> anabain: http://pastie.org/10641935
[19:11] <Nightelf> Fixed it by setting Add show desktop icon to the launcher to true through appearance => behavior.
[19:11] <anabain> jak2000, you have eth1 up, right?
[19:12] <jak2000> anabain not
[19:12] <jak2000> cant up
[19:13] <jak2000> done
[19:14] <anabain> jak2000, it's ok now?
[19:16] <livewithhonor> is there a channel specific to linux web development?
[19:17] <anabain> jak2000, shouldn't you have "auto eth1" on /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:17] <bazhang> !alis | livewithhonor have a search
[19:18] <jak2000> anabain done
[19:19] <livewithhonor> hmm okay trying to figure that out
[19:19] <compdoc> it is missing auto eth1
[19:19] <livewithhonor> that search thing is a bit of a pain to figure out right now
[19:20] <anabain> jak2000, after putting auto eth1, restart networking: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:21] <ShadowM00n> hello; I've tried some googling already to little avail, but in 15.10 when using Upstart the machine fails to halt/reboot, last output I can get is that the filesystem and swap were unmounted/disabled. Little of value seems to be in the system logs due to this. Where can I begin troubleshooting this?
[19:22] <ioria> !systemd
[19:23] <ShadowM00n> I realise systemd is the default, but I find it unpleasant for a variety of reasons, and the upstart package appears to still be supported
[19:25] <jak2000> anabain k, thanks
[19:26] <ioria> ShadowM00n, you installed this upstart-sysv ?
[19:27] <ShadowM00n> ioria: I did indeed, as far back as 15.04. It is still present, and I tried re-installing it at one point.
[19:27] <ioria> ShadowM00n, did you run sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[19:28] <ShadowM00n> ioria: if I'm not mistaken, that's triggered regularly, notably on kernel updates, of which many have occured. I see that upstart is the default option in grub, with systemd appearing as the alternative
[19:28] <SemiNus> hi
[19:29] <ioria> ShadowM00n, oh... ok
[19:29] <SemiNus> Question: When I want to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10,  do I need to change my  /etc/apt/sources.list   BEFORE or AFTER I run "do-release-upgrade" ?
[19:30] <phunyguy> SemiNus: you shouldn't need to worry about that with do-release-upgrade
[19:30] <phunyguy> it will typically disable any third party repos anyway
[19:31] <SemiNus> phunyguy, oh, that would be a problem then - I want to keep trinity desktop!
[19:31] <phunyguy> SemiNus: ahh. Good luck, then.
[19:31] <SemiNus> phunyguy, ok let me ask it from a different way - I am happy with 15.04 which is a LTS release - I only need Hugin 2015
[19:31] <anabain> jak2000, you're welcome. It seems today nobody is willing to help me, so at least I'm glad to be helpful to someone, ;)
[19:31] <phunyguy> 15.04 is not LTS.
[19:31] <SemiNus> I tried the Launchpad version but I head into dependency problems
[19:31] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: after the upgrade, you can just log in to a fallback or a TTY and just uncomment the entries in your sources.list
[19:32] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, well, it's always risky - at the end of the day,  we cannot know if all will work out properly
[19:32] <zumba_addict> why does ctrl-p change my ubuntu to black and white?
[19:32] <phunyguy> SemiNus: best to backup first ☺
[19:32] <zumba_addict> what is it doing?
[19:33] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: I can confirm that Trinity works on 15.10, because I helped point out a dependency problem that prevented it from installing, which seems to be fixed now
[19:33] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, nice!  So is trinity desktop already well-known out there?
[19:34] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: I'm not sure how well-known it is, exactly; I was trying to install it for nostalgic and research reasons. I normally use awesome-wm.
[19:34] <SemiNus> nice too
[19:35] <SemiNus> ShadowM00n, well,  I started using TDE again when KDE4 totally messed up everything they could mess up
[19:35] <SemiNus> every new release had at least one more problem than the prior one,  then I switched to TDE and I *love* it
[19:37] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: can't say I favour their aesthetic decisions of late, but I run KDE4 on my laptop nowadays (15.04 with Kubuntu repos) and it seems to run just fine. TDE feels faster though and I'm considering moving it over to do a more in-depth comparison
[19:37] <bazhang> can we take this to #ubuntu-discuss please
[19:38] <SemiNus> bazhang, yes, of course... but do we really disturb people?  (I just joined #ubuntu-discuss)
[19:38] <5EXAAJLOM> sup
[19:38] <ShadowM00n> right, sorry, too much coffee and jumping on everything
[19:38] <bazhang> thanks
[19:44] <zumba_addict> i installed Ubuntu 14.04. Am I using Gnome?
[19:44] <zumba_addict> it's because I want to download themes and want to make sure it's the correct one
[19:44] <teward> zumba_addict: you're likely using Unity, and not the standard GNOME interface, if you installed plain ubuntu 14.04
[19:44] <zumba_addict> got it
[19:45] <zumba_addict> i want to have a nicer gui. Any suggestions?
[19:45] <teward> you'd be looking for Ubuntu GNOME if you want the GNOME interfaces
[19:45] <teward> Kubuntu (KDE)
[19:45] <zumba_addict> k
[19:45] <teward> but that's my opinoin
[19:45] <SemiNus> now a help-question:  http://pastie.org/10642005
[19:45] <zumba_addict> for Unity, which theme is cool?
[19:45] <anabain> how do i get my usb stick with vfat mounted at the /media/user/USB point, to be browseable at an rbind mount (/media rbind mounted)? If I ls as the user it complains about permissions; as root, it outputs nothing. any ideas?
[19:45] <zumba_addict> is Numix good?
[19:46] <k1l> zumba_addict: that depends on your taste
[19:46] <k1l> !theme | zumba_addict
[19:46] <zumba_addict> k
[19:46] <k1l> choose one you like.
[19:46] <zumba_addict> will those links work for Unity?
[19:46] <k1l> you will need a unity theme.
[19:46] <zumba_addict> k
[19:46] <zumba_addict> what are you using?
[19:47] <k1l> standard theme iirc
[19:47] <zumba_addict> k
[19:47] <k1l> "radiance"
[19:49] <SemiNus> could anyone please tell me what I can do to solve the upgrade-issue?
[19:49] <SemiNus> Here is a paste:
[19:49] <SemiNus> http://pastie.org/10642005
[19:50] <ioria> SemiNus, do you have ppa ?
[19:50] <daftykins> SemiNus: "lsb_release -a" ?
[19:50] <SemiNus> ioria, like launchpad? yes
[19:51] <SemiNus> daftykins, http://pastie.org/10642014
[19:51] <ioria> SemiNus, grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[19:53] <SemiNus> ioria, http://pastie.org/pastes/10642022/text
[19:55] <ShadowM00n> looks like Trinity stuff isn't being removed
[19:55] <SemiNus> so what am I supposed to do?
[19:57] <ioria> SemiNus, maybe  purge ppa
[19:58] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: offhand, try removing the trinity packages temporarily, perhaps? The metapackage makes it easy enough to restore it, and your settings won't be harmed. Beyond that, I haven't seen a PPA interfere with an upgrade like this, so I'm unsure.
[19:58] <SemiNus> I see
[19:58] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | SemiNus
[19:59] <mrsam_> hi my frind : how can i remot ubuntu with m android phone?
[19:59] <bazhang> mrsam_, did you mean ssh?
[20:00] <daftykins> mrsam_: juiceSSH / ConnectBot
[20:00] <SemiNus> well, the only reason why I would upgrade at all is because of Hugin - I must use version "2015" of hugin.   Would it be easier to resolve the depedency issues with Hugin?  Because purgin the whole PPA .... I love that my system is running so reliable and stable at the moment
[20:02] <SemiNus> http://pastie.org/pastes/10642035/text
[20:02] <SemiNus> that's what happens when I try to install Hugin 2015
[20:03] <ShadowM00n> SemiNus: you could try manually installing those packages until you find the part that's broken, or else try compiling from source if applicable (just use checkinstall instead of 'make install' at the end so you have a package)
[20:03] <SemiNus> ok, I try it :)
[20:03] <SemiNus> thank you
 yeah..hw can i do this?
[20:09] <daftykins> mrsam_: they are android apps for connecting to a Linux system via SSH, install one on your android device.
so how can i remote other linux with my linux?
[20:11] <daftykins> are you talking about the GUI, or command line (SSH) ?
[20:11] <daftykins> !ssh
i wanna connect to my friend's linux and solve his problem
[20:12] <daftykins> yes, so GUI or command line?
[20:12] <daftykins> help me... to help you.
[20:12] <Na3iL> mrsam_: you can open an SSH into his pc
GUI
[20:13] <daftykins> check out teamviewer.
 and for command line?
[20:14] <gregor_> Ist hier jemand Deutsch hab ne Frage
[20:15] <akik> !de
[20:15] <gregor_> Ok danke
[20:16] <daftykins> mrsam_: i answered that 3 times, try readnig.
[20:16] <daftykins> reading too
 how can i use ssh? say to me
[20:17] <daftykins> i already told you that, too - with links
[20:17] <daftykins> READ.
i wanna remote other ubuntu with my ubuntu not by phone
[20:20] <ShadowM00n> mrsam_: then the answer you seek is in the reading material he gave you. ssh is available on Ubuntu as well as Android.
[20:21] <daftykins> mrsam_: as above, please try to not ask something again before you look at what you've been told
[20:21] <bazhang> mrsam_, please fully read all the documentation given first
[20:22] <bazhang> mrsam_, thats a basic requirement in such a situation
so now..i want to connet to other linux with ip 192.168.1.20....what is my command to use/?
[20:22] <bazhang> mrsam_, have you fully read all the links given to you
[20:23] <mrsam_> ok
[20:23] <mrsam_> tnx
[20:23] <bazhang> mrsam_, did you read them first before reasking just twenty seconds later
[20:24] <frostythesnowman> hi, does anyone know of a shortcut to clearing all cookies and sessions for only my localhost domain?
[20:25] <attendee> Hey, guys, we (local python meetup group) set up some laptops with ubuntu for people who show up without laptops!
i know but how can i open it can u say to me simplely?
[20:26] <k1l> mrsam_: "ssh" is the command
[20:26] <attendee> I'd like to give the users an experience like a live cd, where they can install anything they like as a guest, but it won't affect the base system, and their changes will go away when they log off.
[20:27] <attendee> halp! :)
[20:27] <mrsam_> so i wanna connet to this ip 192.168.1.20...what command do i write?
[20:27] <commonlisp_win>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER commonlisp_win ykrkfsiebbrn
[20:27] <daftykins> attendee: use a VM.
[20:27] <rockyroad> hi there, I have a problem with kde "K" menu "leave" actions (shutdown, restart, logout ...). Sometimes they don't do anything and I need do poweroff from the command line. What could be the issue ?
[20:27] <daftykins> commonlisp_win: delete the leading space and do that in the status window :)
[20:28] <k1l> mrsam_: ssh user@ip if there is an opensshserver running already.
[20:28] <attendee> daftykins: ok, giving that some thought, any other suggestions? got a workflow?
[20:28] <daftykins> attendee: it wasn't clear really whether you mean you're putting ubuntu on peoples systems as the only OS or what
 what is the USeR? do i write his pc's name?
[20:28] <xcelq> is anybody here having issue with wifi drivers going in and out?
[20:29] <rockyroad> I'm running now linux mint 17.2/kde but the same thing happens "sometimes" to a friend with a fresh Kubuntu 15.10
[20:29] <k1l> !ssh | mrsam_
[20:29] <attendee> It's the only OS on these loaner laptops (they won't be taking them home with them)
[20:29] <daftykins> rockyroad: we don't help with Mint.
[20:29] <xcelq> mint goes into the trash here
[20:29] <daftykins> rockyroad: so you won't be able to take any advice and apply it elsewhere
[20:29] <rockyroad> and with Kubuntu ?
[20:29] <commonlisp_win> test
[20:29] <daftykins> you're not running it, so best the actual person comes here to ask
[20:29] <xcelq> rockyroad i tried kde
[20:29] <xcelq> i don't like it at all
[20:30] <k1l> mrsam_: if you dont even know this please take a look into the documents. this is basic terminal knowledge.
[20:30] <xcelq> read the man page
[20:31] <Guest5039> HELLO
[20:31] <rockyroad> anybody interested ?
[20:31] <ShadowM00n> attendee: any reason not to just use a livecd?
[20:31] <asdopas> (Ubuntu 15.10) Ubuntu is only recognizing 640x480 on my Optiquest Q7 monitor, when it used to have the full resolution of 1280x1024. How do I fix this?
[20:31] <ioria> right
 i do this...tnx :D im connecting
[20:32] <Guest5039>  am new
[20:32] <Guest5039> any body say hello to ;e
[20:32] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest5039
[20:32] <sruli> has anyone tried dual boot on a mac ? (ubuntu+ appleos)
[20:33] <sruli> my question is if it can work smoothly
[20:33] <Bashing-om> !mac | sruli Have you seen ::
[20:33] <asus> ciao
[20:35] <Guest5039> hi
[20:35] <Guest5039> hi
[20:35] <attendee> ok, where do I store the VM image where the guest can't touch it?
[20:35] <sruli> Bashing-om: tnx
[20:35] <Bashing-om> sruli: :) great luck . See ya soon up and running .
[20:36] <sruli> Bashing-om: was that sarcastic? if its gonna be hell, i'm not gonna start
[20:36] <Bashing-om> Guest5039: Hello, Welcome to ubuntu support . You have a support request ?
[20:37] <ioria> attendee, the user will touch it 1 the real system won't
[20:37] <Bashing-om> sruli: No, not at all .. Many have done it .. I however have not, I have no direct ecperience on a MAc .
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[20:39] <k1l> MonkeyDust: check, r is working :)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: Your cat now learned the 'r' key ?
[20:40] <sruli> Bashing-om: thanks, i installed for many people ubuntu as dualboot to get people to start using linux, just now for the first time has someone asked me if i can do it on their mac
[20:40] <MWM> Im getting alot of errors with squid proxy.  I need : simpler proxy or someone who can translate what is incorrect in a specific line
[20:40] <akik> attendee: if you just create normal user accounts without sudo rights, you can just remove their home directories later on
[20:41] <akik> attendee: oh scratch that, i didn't notice the installation requirement
[20:41] <Bashing-om> sruli: You do good ! ... I too install for many , Here, to this time. I have yet too to be asked to install on a MAc .
[20:42] <sruli> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:42] <MWM> bungled line 7163
[20:45] <ioria> attendee, there is also the Guest Account
[20:45] <attendee> yeah, but they can't install anything with that
[20:46] <daftykins> attendee: i don't really see why you would need to protect the image, just store them in an obscure path and have something like virtualbox discard changes
so when i want to connet to other linux by ssh i receive this error:::ip xx.xx.xx.xx port 22 connetion refuse
[20:49] <k1l> mrsam_: is there a ssh server running?
just install it
[20:49] <daftykins> you need to forward port 22 on a NAT router.
[20:50] <ShadowM00n> the address he gave before was local, iirc
[20:50] <daftykins> lol nice
 how can i do this?
[20:50] <daftykins> answer whether you're connecting to your friend over the internet, first.
[20:50] <anom> Hai, everyime I reboot my keyboard gets reset to US
[20:50] <anom> So I have to do: setxkbmap -layout gb
[20:50] <anom> is there anyway to make this fixed? So it doesnt reset on every reboot?
just say simplely how can i solve it..say to me ur steps
[20:51] <daftykins> mrsam_: no answer the question first.
[20:51] <daftykins> it influences the answer
[20:51] <ShadowM00n> 192.168.1.20 ought to be local, if that's indeed the right IP
 i wanna  connrt to my friend with publice ip
[20:52] <attendee> ok, no security by obscurity
[20:52] <mrsam_> 192.168.1.20 was an example
[20:52] <daftykins> over the internet or not? answer my question.
 not
[20:52] <ShadowM00n> anom: isn't there a configuration option for that in GNOME/Unity/KDE/etc.'s control panel equivalent?
[20:52] <mrsam_> No
[20:53] <daftykins> mrsam_: so you didn't install openssh-server by the sounds of it.
[20:53] <daftykins> check it's running also by looking for :22 in "netstat -tuln"
 he installs it in his system
[20:53] <Bashing-om> anom: Unity ? The keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel. lick on that and select Text Entry Settings and we get the dialog to add or remove keyboard layouts.
[20:53] <daftykins> but if you're both sat in the same place what is the point in doing things remotely?
[20:54] <akik> attendee: virtualbox has a feature called immutable images, where the modifications are not saved to the image
[20:54] <attendee> akik: sweet, where can I find more?
[20:54] <daftykins> in virtualbox's docs :P
 we are connectin with publick ip...not in the same country
[20:55] <TJ-> mrsam_: if you're trying to connect to a public IP address, that public IP address needs to be the destination PC, or if it is a gateway router, it needs port-forwarding configured to pass the connection through to a PC on its LAN side
 u dont understand just speaking
[20:55] <ablest1980> hello need some help
so how can we connect?
[20:55] <ablest1980> EriC^^,
[20:56] <sruli> anyone with MAC experience? is it possible to clone a ubuntu partition onto a MAC drive?
[20:56] <daftykins> mrsam_: i already told you what to run to check SSH server is running.
ssh: connect to host xx.xxx.xx.xx port 22: Connection refused
[20:56] <ablest1980> ./boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'
[20:56] <TJ-> mrsam_: configure the gateway-router at the listening end(s) to port-forward to the PC on its LAN, for whatever SSH port you want to use
[20:56] <daftykins> mrsam_: so it is over the internet and you didn't tell me the truth, *sigh*
[20:57] <TJ-> mrsam_: see http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/
[20:58] <ablest1980> The upgrade needs a total of 81.8 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 17.4 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[20:58] <ablest1980> how do i remove extra kernels or old ones?
[20:58] <daftykins> ablest1980: sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:59] <TJ-> ablest1980: generally "sudo apt-get autoremove" will remove no-longer-required kernels
[20:59] <ablest1980> did that
[20:59] <daftykins> ablest1980: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[20:59] <ablest1980> ok
[21:01] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14105898/
[21:01] <Fighting> hai
[21:03] <daftykins> ablest1980: also "ls -al /boot" and "df -h" ?
[21:05] <daftykins> ablest1980: keep it to one channel and chop chop :)
[21:06] <frecel> is there a way to increase the size of the top bar and the task bar icons in unity7?
[21:06] <frecel> I found a way to make the font bigger but that's about it
[21:07] <ShadowM00n> frecel: launcher, yes; look into unity-tweak-tool for an easy way. I don't think the menu bar can be much adjusted though.
[21:07] <OerHeks> scaling
[21:07] <frecel> ShadowM00n: yeah I increased the size of the launcher already
[21:07] <frecel> I'm trying to make things more touch friendly
[21:07] <ShadowM00n> frecel: my mistake, misread "task bar icons"
[21:07] <OerHeks> systemsettings > display > scaling
[21:08] <OerHeks> else the panel is hardcoded
[21:08] <frecel> Welp, nothing left to do but blame popey then
[21:08] <popey> \o/
[21:10] <ablest1980> ok im back
[21:10] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14106088/
[21:10] <ablest1980> ^
[21:10] <daftykins> yay
[21:10] <ShadowM00n> seems a different crowd is active, so I'll take the liberty of trying again: any suggestions on where to begin troubleshooting a failure to reboot/halt when using upstart on 15.10? Last messages suggest the filesystem and swap are successfully dismounted.
[21:10] <ablest1980> all 3 in one paste
[21:11] <daftykins> ablest1980: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-68-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-67-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-66-generic linux-image-3.13.0-68-generic linux-image-3.13.0-67-generic linux-image-3.13.0-66-generic
[21:11] <ablest1980> ok
[21:12] <daftykins> then resume what you were doing perhaps with "sudo apt-get -f install"
[21:12] <frecel> It's embarrasing how much better chromium is on touch screens compared to firefox
[21:13] <daftykins> frecel: you're going off topic there, support only in this chan
[21:13] <Bashing-om> daftykins: ablest1980 You will need operation headromm for " uname -r >> 3.13.0-74-generic " a new kernel has hit my mirror .
[21:13] <ablest1980> do "sudo apt-get -f install" now?
[21:14] <daftykins> that or dance the funky chicken
[21:14] <ablest1980> lol
[21:14]  * ablest1980 does both
[21:14] <daftykins> now that's multi-tasking with ubuntu
[21:14] <ablest1980> :)
[21:16] <KeeperoftheKeys> Hi anyone around?
[21:16] <ablest1980> ok its works now ty
[21:16] <daftykins> np
[21:16] <ablest1980> bye
[21:16] <daftykins> KeeperoftheKeys: shoot.
[21:23] <MWM> is there some sort of conflict between squid and samba?  I cant see squid in webmin
[21:24] <daftykins> !webmin
[21:24] <daftykins> shouldn't be using that.
[21:24] <neredsevy> Is it possible to make a launcher shortcut that executes a .sh script ?
[21:25] <MWM> I need crutches for linux until I leanr the ropes.  i was hoping webmin would fill the gap until I got my "sea legs"
[21:26] <spaok> MWM: I'm just walking into this room, but cockpit is pretty nice for web admin stuff
[21:26] <daftykins> MWM: if you don't do it right from the start, you never will.
[21:26] <sruli> neredsevy: which version are u using?
[21:27] <reduce> i installed ubuntu server and then ubuntu-desktop no recomended apps
[21:27] <reduce> the desktop now just shows the background
[21:27] <daftykins> graphics issues perhaps
[21:27] <reduce> ctrl alt t gets me a terminal
[21:27] <MWM> daftykins: if I wait util I know how to do it right then Ill never have any fun :)  Youre right but Im a cheater
[21:27] <daftykins> MWM: allow me to swiftly ignore then!
[21:27] <sruli> reduce: have you installed unity?
[21:27] <spaok> I was hoping someone here might be able to help me with a MAAS thing I'm running into, tried #maas but pretty quite there
[21:28] <reduce> sruli: nothing after what i stated i installed earlier
[21:28] <daftykins> spaok: if it's not proper ubuntu it's not matching the topic i would say
[21:28] <MWM> spaok : thanks Ill look into it
[21:28] <sruli> reduce: you need to install unity or other menu launcher
[21:28] <spaok> daftykins: proper ubuntu being what? it's ubuntu, MAAS is a ubuntu thing, the issue is on ubuntu
[21:28] <neredsevy> sruli: 14.04
[21:29] <daftykins> i know it is, nevermind you missed the point -> moving on
[21:29] <spaok> i'm mostly familiar with RHEL
[21:29] <sruli> neredsevy: which flavour? ubuntu?
[21:29] <neredsevy> desktop ubuntu
[21:29] <TJ-> MWM: you probably need to install the squid webmin module, via Webmin Configuration > Webmin Modules > 'standard module from www.webmin.com' (press ... button) and find the 'squid' module
[21:30] <MWM> TJ : thanks
[21:32] <KeeperoftheKeys> So I found an interesting problem that blows my mind that it was missed, kernel 4.2 seems to completely lack support for detecting HDDs on one of the motherboards I use, I also noticed at least one question on ask.ubuntu which seems to suggest that user also suffered the same issue.
[21:33] <KeeperoftheKeys> My methodology
[21:33] <daftykins> standard 3.5" SATA I/II/III mechanical HDD?
[21:33] <sruli> neredsevy: "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel" , then to create shortcut "gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new"  point it to your .sh script
[21:33] <KeeperoftheKeys> yup
[21:34] <daftykins> sounds like it could be on a secondary controller on your motherboard, can you link to the specific mobo model?
[21:35] <KeeperoftheKeys> probably, I'm not at home now, but I have an lshw from the machine here so I'll see
[21:36] <daftykins> KeeperoftheKeys: different coloured SATA ports is often a dead giveaway
[21:36] <KeeperoftheKeys> (after 15.04>15.10 upgrade system became unbootable except with old kernel tried 15.10 disk-on-key didn't recognize disks)
[21:36] <KeeperoftheKeys> hmmm
[21:37] <daftykins> if it was an upgrade, testing a 15.10 live session would be handy
[21:37] <KeeperoftheKeys> dunno, is at least a year ago I put it together, but very likely, I believ it has both sata2 and sata 3 ports, otoh lspci is identical under kernel 3.9 & 4.2
[21:37] <KeeperoftheKeys> live session test also did not recognize disks
[21:37] <daftykins> it would be
[21:38] <daftykins> well feel free to pastebin said lshw somewhere like paste.ubuntu.com
[21:38] <KeeperoftheKeys> shall I stick both 3.9 & 4.2 in the same paste?
[21:39] <MWM> working GUI for squid?
[21:39] <sruli> anyone with MAC experience? is it possible to clone a ubuntu partition onto a MAC drive?
[21:40] <KeeperoftheKeys> squid-cache has so many options that I doubt anyone can make a complete GUI
[21:40] <MWM> Ive got no Mac experience but I dont know that Mac will read anything but Mac.  However you might be able to run in a virtual machine?  just a guess
[21:42] <sruli> MWM: it is possible to install ubuntu as dual boot on mac, i just want to know if i have to install it or a cloned partition would work fine
[21:42] <nicomachus> sruli: yea it's possible.
[21:43] <sruli> nicomachus: possible to clone part on to mac drive?
[21:43] <nicomachus> well, should be. I also have no mac experience.
[21:43] <MWM> sruli: I would imagine that you would install and then restore from an image in that case... but Im still just guessing
[21:43] <sruli> tnx
[21:43] <reduce> i cant find the package to instal the unity hud
[21:43] <reduce> or unity menu launcher or whatever its called
[21:43] <sruli> is there anyone with MAC experience around?
[21:44] <MWM> Is there a more user friendly package I can use than squid?  Im in a bit over my head with squid
[21:44] <reduce> any ideas what its called?
[21:44] <sruli> reduce: unity
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> reduce  dash
[21:44] <sruli> reduce: are you using ubuntu or lubuntu etc?
[21:45] <reduce> im using ubuntu server with ubuntu desktop installed with no recommended apps
[21:45] <reduce> synaptic tells me i have the "unity" package installed already
[21:46] <sruli> reduce: apt-get install unity
[21:46] <reduce> i also have "dash" installed according to it
[21:46] <reduce> sruli: ill try it
[21:46] <sruli> reduce: u have hud installed?
[21:47] <reduce> there is no package called "hud" in synaptic
[21:47] <reduce> sorry im talking bs
[21:47] <reduce> sruli: yes it says it is installed
[21:47] <reduce> "backend for unity hud"
[21:48] <sruli> reduce: sudo service lightdm status
[21:49] <reduce> stop/waiting
[21:49] <reduce> sruli: ^
[21:49] <sruli> reduce: seems like that is ur problem
[21:50] <bodom> Hi there! Since last upgrade, i can't switch to terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1) anymore. Here is what happens when i try: http://picpaste.com/z8RMB0Ny.jpg
[21:50] <sruli> bodom: same when you try F2?
[21:51]  * reduce tried a reboot
[21:51] <bodom> sruli: the noise changes when i try f2
[21:51] <sruli> bodom: u upgraded from what to what?
[21:51] <daftykins> looks like a driver issue
[21:52] <bodom> sruli: from 15.04 to 15.10
[21:55] <sruli> bodom: what graphics card and driver are u using?
[21:55] <bodom> sruli: nvidia 340.96
[21:56] <daftykins> try 346
[21:58] <bodom> daftykins: apparently there only are 340 and 352 available
[21:58] <whiteowl> huaaah
[21:58] <sruli> bodom: just for testing can u use x.org driver?
[21:59] <sora> do you prefer mysql or postgresql? :3
[21:59] <bodom> sruli: which one?
[21:59] <daftykins> i think sruli means nouveau, the open source nvidia driver
[21:59] <daftykins> but that'd be moot because it probably would be fine depending on what the card is
[22:00] <bodom> oh, i had so many problems with nouveau in the past and didn't read anything better more recently. i do not think that's an option.
[22:01] <reduce> i logged in as guest
[22:01] <daftykins> so just try changing driver
[22:01] <reduce> im not sure how to logout again
[22:01] <sruli> reduce: and?
[22:01] <reduce> (unity)
[22:01] <reduce> sruli: my issue is reolved :)
[22:02] <reduce> sruli: now i just need to learn to use unit
[22:02] <reduce> y
[22:02] <sruli> reduce: great
[22:02] <reduce> there is no obvious logout button
[22:03] <reduce> perhaps --no-recommends-apps was not a good option for me
[22:03] <reduce> :P
[22:03] <sruli> reduce: top right u shoud have a star shaped button, you dont?
[22:03]  * rostyk is away: Pracuji
[22:04] <reduce> sruli: no, just En, audio icon and time
[22:04] <reduce> strl alt del worked though :)
[22:05] <sruli> reduce: maybe reinstall with recommends
[22:06] <reduce> sruli: ill do that if i run into anymore issues
[22:07] <sruli> reduce: if you go to Settings > Time & Date > Clock tab , do u have an option "show a clock in teh menu bar" ?
[22:08] <reduce> sruli: yes, when i untick it im left with a whole
[22:08] <reduce> *hole
[22:08] <sruli> reduce: while ticked do u have the time on top bar?
[22:08] <reduce> yes, rightmost 'icon'
[22:09] <sruli> reduce: anything else on top bar?
[22:09] <reduce> leftmost it says system settings, then beside the time i have the audio icon, beside that the En icon
[22:10] <sruli> reduce: do u have "indicator-session" installed?
[22:11] <reduce> sruli: no - is that what i need?
[22:12] <sruli> reduce: i believe so, in synaptic search for "indicator" there are others which might be useful
[22:12] <OerHeks> apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop is the quickest way to get out of that funny install
[22:13] <reduce> you guys win
[22:13] <reduce> ill run it :)
[22:13] <sruli> reduce: i agree with Oerheks
[22:32] <MWM> move to a specified line with nano?
[22:32] <curlyears> hello
[22:34] <sruli> MWM: u mean go to line number?
[22:34] <curlyears> I insstallled the latest siftware updater from Canonical into my LTS14.02. and it killed mu OS.  System will bot bootk.
[22:34] <MWM> srule: yes
[22:34] <MWM> er sruli
[22:34] <sruli> MWM: nano +#(line_number filename
[22:35] <daftykins> curlyears: that's not a real version
[22:35] <MWM> so sudo nano /path/to/file +# ?
[22:35] <drroot> hi
[22:36] <sruli> MWM +# before path
[22:36] <curlyears> dattykins:  ??
[22:36] <drroot> Hi
[22:36] <daftykins> !recovery | curlyears
[22:36] <MWM> sruli: sweeeeet thanks
[22:37] <sruli> MWM: pleasure
[22:38] <UserUS> can you install windows from in a ubuntu shell?
[22:39] <sruli> MWM: to go to line number while in nano ctrl+shift+- will promt for line number
[22:39] <MWM> sruli : even better!
[22:40] <anabain> how should I set permissions on /media/user/USBdevice in order to be able to access the plugged device through a rbind mount made in /etc/fstab at /mountdir/media/user/USBdevice ? Right now, as user I get a permission error. As root, ls outputs nothing.
[22:41] <daftykins> UserUS: only with VM technology
[22:41] <daftykins> and even then you'd need a working GUI :P
[22:41] <UserUS> I can work without one, if I can run the software alongside the mounted drive and it will run
[22:42] <MWM> FATAL: Bungled /etc/squid3/squid.conf line 3038: cache_dir rock Directory-Name Mbytes <max-size=bytes> [options
[22:42] <nicomachus> UserUS: what's the software?
[22:42] <UserUS> nicomachus: Windows 7 install
[22:43] <nicomachus> UserUS: yea you'll need a VM then...
[22:43] <daftykins> UserUS: what are you trying to achieve?
[22:43] <MWM> whats wrong with this line?  this is how it is configured out of the box?  All I can guess is that it needs to be commented out?
[22:46] <sruli> MWM: to see which line u are currently at alt+c in nano will give u a status bar at the bottom with line number
[22:46] <MWM> sruli: thanks I made it to the line but I cant figure out what the problem is FATAL: Bungled /etc/squid3/squid.conf line 3038: cache_dir rock Directory-Name Mbytes <max-size=bytes> [options
[22:47] <nolsen_> Is there a way to disable apt's autoremove?
[22:47] <nolsen_> Because last time I used it, I had to reinstall Ubuntu because it broke my DEs.
[22:47] <sruli> MWM: sorry never used squid
[22:47] <MWM> sruli: me neither :)
[22:48] <daftykins> time to read their docs
[22:48] <nicomachus> nolsen_: just don't type in the command?
[22:49] <nolsen_> nicomachus, Then I get that annoying message every time I use apt.
[22:49] <nicomachus> nolsen_: what packages is auto-removing removing that is breaking your DE? and what DE is it?
[22:51] <nolsen_> ...is there a way to turn off autoremove....
[22:52] <UserUS> daftykins: Install W7 on a drive that's on the same disk as ubuntu. Windows 7 installer won't recognize the drivers, but ubuntu does.
[22:52] <daftykins> UserUS: "drivers" - what?
[22:53] <daftykins> what's special about your disks?
[22:53] <UserUS> hardware drivers. won't even detect the hardware or gpu card.
[22:53] <daftykins> you wouldn't see a picture if that were true
[22:54] <UserUS> I know
[22:54] <UserUS> That's what it was doing
[22:54] <daftykins> you realise in Windows 7 you have to manually install drivers right? mostly.
[22:54] <UserUS> Didn't help the hard drive was near failing
[22:54] <UserUS> I did
[22:54] <UserUS> and updated bios
[22:55] <daftykins> that's only wise when needed
[22:55] <daftykins> so you're saying you installed win7 but that it was having graphics driver issues?
[22:55] <daftykins> there is no way you can install Windows through Linux, that's ridiculous
[22:56] <UserUS> the person who owns it installed a 64-bit graphics card update which screwed up other ones with it
[22:56] <UserUS> it's 32-bit, and they installed amd graphics updates for an intel graphics card
[22:57] <daftykins> ok, your details of this are getting so far removed from sanity you need to start from the start
[22:57] <daftykins> so someone has come to you with a broken Windows install?
[22:57] <daftykins> so this has nothing to do with ubuntu at all?
[22:58] <UserUS> Lol, yes. To begin with, the OS had malware, tons of it. I removed the malware (and a few rootkits) until they installed the incorrect software and messed up the registry, which messed up the kernel
[22:58] <nicomachus> so what does this have to do with ubuntu... at all?
[22:58] <UserUS> only a linux kernel will run for some reason, aka ubuntu
[22:58] <daftykins> that's not how Windows works, you're making up terms and throwing them in
[22:58] <daftykins> go to ##windows
[22:59] <daftykins> 32-bit drivers do not install on a 64-bit Windows, so the above story is 100% wrong
[23:00] <UserUS> are you serious? you can easily install even a 64-bit os on a 32-bit machine. I've done it, it just doesn't load any gui's after it boots lol
[23:01] <bodom> no luck: any nvidia driver still gives me the same issue
[23:02] <sruli> bodom: as i said before to see if its the driver issue try the x.org dirver, if it works then we know whats causing it
[23:02] <daftykins> UserUS: my bad the opposite way, you said 64-bit drivers on a 32-bit windows, that doesn't work - you're chatting rubbish. go to ##windows thanks.
[23:03] <bodom> sruli: I've been using nvidia-340 for many years and it didn't seem to change. What you call the xorg driver will just cause me more problems.
[23:03] <ZorCocuK> Hi
[23:04] <sruli> bodom: use it just to test the issue
[23:04] <bekks> bodom: yeah, because you are not using nvidia-340-updates
[23:04] <bodom> bekks: no, i'm not
[23:04] <anabain> can anybody tell me where to learn about how permissions are set on plugged devices under /media dir?
[23:05] <bekks> bodom: nvidia-340 does not contain updates, nvidia-340-updates does contain updates.
[23:05] <bodom> bekks: 304,340,346,352 all have the same behaviour
[23:05] <bodom> and 240 used to work for a very long time
[23:05] <bodom> *340
[23:05] <bekks> bodom: yeah, nvidia-xyz dooes not contain updates, nvidia-xyz-updates does.
[23:06] <bekks> bodom: So whats the issue with that?
[23:06] <daftykins> bodom: let's save some time here. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[23:07] <conall> Hi all. Trying to install 15.10. Currently 15.04 and windows 7 duel booted. Running into issues regarding uefi vs legacy boot. Currently using legacy boot but when I boot into ubuntu usb with legacy mode I get a kernel panic. When I boot into ubuntu uefi it doesnt see the windows installation. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance
[23:07] <daftykins> you can't mix the two
[23:08] <daftykins> you must install all OSs in the same mode
[23:08] <bodom> bekks: http://picpaste.com/z8RMB0Ny.jpg what's what i get when i switch to console
[23:08] <bekks> conall: And why dont you just upgrade your 15.04 to 15.10?
[23:08] <bodom> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/B6hcf6eC
[23:09] <bekks> bodom: try using the nomodeset kernel parameter then.
[23:09] <conall> The new ubuntu wont detect it, so I think I wont be able to boot into it????
[23:09] <bekks> conall: that sentence doesnt make sense in the context of my question.
[23:09] <daftykins> bodom: yeah your system is a mess, "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot; then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-340-updates as bekks said if you can
[23:10] <bodom> bekks: mhhh
[23:11] <bodom> daftykins: what do you mean by "mess"?
[23:11] <conall> sorry bekks, im pretty new to all this. when I do an "os-prober" it will not detect the windows partition, so when grub-update is run at the end of the install, Im afraid I wont be able to boot into windows
[23:11] <bekks> conall: Why dont you update your 15.04 to 15.10?
[23:11] <bekks> conall: Why do you run os-proper?
[23:11] <daftykins> bodom: you're mixing 3 different nvidia package versions there
[23:12] <conall> oh, sorry bekks, I understand, do you mean from the software repo?
[23:12] <bekks> conall: Yes.
[23:12] <bodom> daftykins: i only have 240 installed
[23:12] <bodom> *340
[23:12] <bekks> bodom: you have several versions installed.
[23:12] <conall> ah, my current install is quite clogged. And I hear a fresh install is cleaner than an upgrade
[23:13] <daftykins> bodom: do what i said.
[23:13] <bekks> conall: then just clean it up. this isnt windows.
[23:13] <conall> bekks, basically I want a nice clean fresh install
[23:14] <conall> bekks, probably a good idea. Thanks
[23:14] <bekks> conall: Why? This isnt windows. It will not be any faster, better or bigger.
[23:14] <bodom> bekks, daftykins: http://pastebin.com/UJ55uY1p
[23:14] <bekks> bodom: Do what daftykins said.
[23:14] <bodom> i can still purge the others, but only 340 is installed
[23:14] <daftykins> bodom: that's not relevant, run what i said for the love of Tux
[23:14] <conall> Well I noticed that my current ubuntu install is quite slow to boot and gets alot of those annoying errors
[23:15] <bekks> conall: So fix the errors.
[23:15] <conall> ill try bekks, thanks
[23:17] <bodom> daftykins: neverming, thank you for your time
[23:17] <nicomachus> bodom: what he said will solve your issue. it will take 5 minutes.
[23:17] <nicomachus> or less.
[23:19] <daftykins> bodom: do the lot then add back in the one desired to be run, i have given advice like this for years and avoiding it like you are now is being purely idiotic.
[23:19] <daftykins> i know you think being removed means they're not a problem, but you are WRONG.
[23:20] <Xcody> why you guys mad
[23:20] <nicomachus> lol. not mad, it's just frustrating when you spend time trying to help people and they don't want to take the advice that will resolve their issues.
[23:20] <bodom> daftykins: man your advice is only leading to troubles, don't call me idiot for not following it, since i didn't call you the same for suggesting it
[23:20] <bekks> bodom: that adbvice will not lead to any troubles.
[23:21] <daftykins> ^
[23:21] <bekks> bodom: he didnt call you names, but you obviously dont know the difference between purge and remove.
[23:21] <daftykins> re-read the bit about years.
[23:21] <bekks> So stop discussing this and just do what he told you to.
[23:21] <nicomachus> or don't, and keep having problems.
[23:22] <bodom> awww man, everybody seems out of hid mind here. Fine, let's do this waste of time just to prove you all are wrong.
[23:24] <MWM> does that mean you were wrong?
[23:25] <daftykins> does what
[23:25] <daftykins> i guarantee it will not be performed correctly.
[23:35] <bodom> Nice. So it didn't solve anything, and my screen setup is now gone. I knew it.
[23:35] <bekks> Whichc ommands did you run?
[23:36] <protn> hi folks after latest ubuntu update flash went cuckoo
[23:36] <bodom> ty fro trying for help, maybe next time before strongly advocating stupid solutions you should tink twice
[23:36] <protn> numbers on charts are not shown
[23:36] <bekks> bodom: Maybe stop your attitude now.
[23:36] <protn> how i can uninstall and install flash_
[23:36] <protn> bekks: indeed
[23:36] <min> hi guys
[23:36] <protn> we all must be humble
[23:36] <protn> hi min
[23:36] <bodom> bekks: purged nvidia*, reboot, install nvidia-updated-240
[23:37] <bekks> bodom: that a non-existing package, nvidia-updated-240
[23:37] <min> protn how are you?
[23:37] <bodom> bekks: maybe listen next time before causing troubles to somebody else who will end up without a gui and no way to recover from it
[23:37] <bodom> bekks: you know what i mean
[23:37] <k1l> bodom: stop now
[23:38] <daftykins> bodom: you didn't even run what i said.
[23:38] <nicomachus> bodom: those aren't the commands you were told to run.
[23:38] <bekks> bodom: List carefullly now: if you came here for ranting only, dant waste our time.
[23:38] <bekks> *dont
[23:38] <bodom> daftykins: AHAHAHAH, that's what i was waiting for: my fault because i didn't run it correctly
[23:38] <daftykins> because you didn't...
[23:38] <daftykins> you don't need working X to install the nvidia-340-updates as was instructed.
[23:39] <daftykins> try and remember what season it is and adjust your mood accordingly.
[23:39] <bodom> as i said, thank you again for you help. Please listen to me: avoid to pushing stupid advice hard on others, because you are just damaging the community, not helping.
[23:39] <bodom> that's all, bye
[23:40] <bekks> bodom: *plonk*
[23:40] <nicomachus> lol
[23:41] <min> hi guys, how do I change the mouse DPI for Ubuntu Mate 15.10? I am using Razar Naga Taipan currently. Thanks!
[23:42] <min> it is moving way too fast and I am having hard time resizing windows
[23:42] <bekks> min: so reduce mouse speed in the sttings.
[23:42] <nicomachus> min: you can use xinput. I'm not sure if MATE has it in a GUI settings menu anywhere or not.
[23:43] <min> ok thank you
[23:43] <nicomachus> min: if you do "xinput list" you can find the id=# for your mouse, and then "xinput list-props #" to find Device Accel Constant Deceleration value.
[23:44] <min> bekks: i am sorry it is already in the lowest setting for acceleration
[23:44] <codepython777> anyone using linode here?
[23:44] <bekks> codepython777: what if?
[23:44] <nicomachus> min: this will probably be helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/172972/configure-mouse-speed-not-pointer-acceleration
[23:44] <min> nicomachus: thank you!
[23:45] <nicomachus> min: if it's already set to 1.000000, I'm not sure if you can go sub-1. but you can try.
[23:45] <codepython777> bekks: I apologize. Has someone used linode to pre-pay for a year? Are there any benefits with that?
[23:46] <bekks> codepython777: Can you elaborate the ubuntu relevance of your question?
[23:46] <codepython777> bekks: wrong room - sorry
[23:46] <TJ-> codepython777: try the #linode  channel on the oftc network
[23:46] <min> nicomachus: yeah it is already 1.000000 =(
[23:47] <klados> HI a new Ubuntu entusiasm from Costa Rica
[23:47] <sruli> maybe we should send some flowers to bodom for wasting his time
[23:47] <nicomachus> min: i think increasing that value will actually slow it donw.
[23:47] <nicomachus> down*
[23:48] <codepython777> TJ-: no answer from there yet. I was looking to pre-paid cloud accounts for a year. Seems like linode/vultr/do have the same pricing these days
[23:48] <daftykins> still off topic :)
[23:50] <TJ-> codepython777: I've been with Linode since they started; excellent support, frequent package upgrades, extremely reliable, very flexible. I have Ubuntu Server on them, now with the KVM hypervisor
[23:50] <codepython777>  TJ-: which plan did you buy
[23:51] <min> nicomachus: hey it works, thank you so much
[23:51] <codepython777> TJ-: which ubuntu server?
[23:51] <nicomachus> min: \o/ yay
[23:51] <codepython777> TJ-: I'm debating between DO and Linode
[23:51] <TJ-> codepython777: whatever suits the task, and LTS releases
[23:52] <min> oh man this is cool, thanks
[23:56] <anabain> How do I change the default permissions for automounted vfat USB media so that they can be accessed through a /media rbind mount, e.g., /mount/media/user/USBdevice?
[23:56] <min> nicomachus: thank you, I'd appreciate your help and have a great day!
[23:57] <bekks> anabain: you dint need to change permissions for diong so. whats the actual issue you are trying to solve?
[23:57] <bekks> *dont
[23:58] <anabain> bekks, for example: ls /mount/media/user/USBdevice complains about permissions. As root, it just outputs nothing...