[00:01] <bekks> anabain: show us the actual error message.
[00:03] <anabain> bekks:    ls: can't open directory /deuteros/media/joan/USB/: permission denied
[00:03] <OerHeks> in /mount/ or /mnt/ ?
[00:03] <SebastianTCL> I installed lubuntu, the most recent version, i want to get the gnome audio volume controls how can i get them? alsamixer and the applet do not let me go over 100%  volume
[00:04] <anabain> OerHeks, /mount is a custom dir, it's actually /deuteros, a dir meant to be shared via nfs. But this problem is happening on the server.
[00:04] <bekks> anabain: So it isnt /mount but /deuteros.
[00:04] <anabain> yes, as the error output shows
[00:05] <bekks> anabain: so check the permissions of /deuteros, then /deuteros/media, then /deuteros/media/joan then /deuteros/media/joan/USB
[00:05] <OerHeks> and on what filesystem is that usb folder?
[00:06] <OerHeks> oh nfs
[00:08] <anabain> bekks, http://pastie.org/10642406
[00:11] <anabain> OerHeks, as far as I understand you, it is meant to be an nfs export that will automatically show at the client. But it's been rbinded to /deuteros/ because /deuteros is the only dir that will be exported in /etc/exports
[00:11] <OerHeks> anabain, earlier you asked about vfat with rbind, is this the same issue?
[00:11] <anabain> yeah
[00:12] <sruli> i am testing KVM on  lubuntu 15.10 and seem to have a permission issue that i didnt have on 14.04 when trying to start a VM i get permission denied, user is member of groups kvm and libvirtd, dir of image and images are root:kvm
[00:13] <anabain> OerHeks, but as I said, ignoring the nfs stuff for now, I'm having that permission error at the server. http://pastie.org/10642406
[00:17] <janesmith> I am used to ubuntu server. I'm setting up normal ubuntu on my TV. I have a script that I need to run whenever a user is logged in. I assume something like ~/.bashrc won't work... where should I call that script?
[00:17] <imthenachoman> hey guys... anyway to make it so when I ssh to my server and the IP of my home machine is a certain IP then sudo doesn't require password? all other times it should
[00:17] <need> hi guys im having trouble installing vm virtual box on ubuntu. could someone help me ??
[00:17] <nicomachus> janesmith: do you need to run it on startup?
[00:18] <need> me?
[00:18] <daftykins> imthenachoman: discover key auth i think would make more sense
[00:18] <janesmith> nicomachus: yes
[00:18] <need> no nikol
[00:18] <daftykins> papa, nikol
[00:18] <anabain> bekks, OerHeks, any ideas?
[00:18] <nicomachus> janesmith: you can stick it on /etc/rc.local or enter it into the GUI for "Startup Applications" from the Dash
[00:19] <need> im trying test another os but i just cant figure  out how to install virtuakbox
[00:19] <daftykins> !info virtualbox
[00:19] <need> any help would be greatly appriciated
[00:20] <need> im running on 64 bit version of ubuntu
[00:20] <daftykins> need: it's pretty simple, you install "virtualbox" with the software centre or run "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[00:20] <need> dafty, can you hold on a moment
[00:21] <need> im about to do that
[00:21] <anabain> need, you can go to the virtualbox site and follow the instructions to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list according to your ubuntu version
[00:21] <daftykins> need: did you even try before you came here?
[00:21] <janesmith> nicomachus: thanks
[00:21] <awshelp> does ubuntu have a inbuilt firewall?
[00:21] <OerHeks> anabain, NFS expects to find POSIX attributes in the file system it's exporting (like permissions, etc.) that vfat doesn't have.
[00:21] <daftykins> anabain: better to only complicate matters later ;)
[00:21] <awshelp> i opened a port on the aws and on the znc but i am not connectable
[00:21] <daftykins> awshelp: yes
[00:22] <daftykins> but it won't be on as default most likely
[00:22] <anabain> daftykins, it depends, I'm assuming he/she is not stupid
[00:22] <awshelp> ok thanks
[00:22] <daftykins> anabain: and yet you see a query asking how to install a package
[00:22] <awshelp> any idea why i wouoldnt be connectable?
[00:22] <codepython777> I am root on a remote server. But I cant login as root. I can login as a user. But I think ssh root@localhost is disabled
[00:22] <daftykins> nope, this is OS support, not amazon support.
[00:22] <codepython777> Any ideas how to get a root shell?
[00:22] <need> of course i tried many times just even reinstall ubuntu all over again just to make sure im starting from the beginning just in case i fucked something up while im trying to install VM!
[00:23] <nicomachus> codepython777: sudo -i
[00:23] <daftykins> codepython777: ubuntu makes use of 'sudo' before commands.
[00:23] <awshelp> k thx
[00:23] <anabain> OerHeks, I repeat: I'm having the issue on the *server* side, nothing nfs related is involved at that point
[00:23] <nicomachus> !language | need
[00:23] <sruli> ok, got it, forgot to uncomment user=root and group=root in qemu.conf
[00:24] <daftykins> need: so surely you ran the program and set up a VM, what goes wrong?
[00:24] <codepython777> daftykins: nicomachus: I dont have the password for the account in which i can login into - use ssh key to get in
[00:24] <codepython777> I do have the password for root for that machine - the account i can login into - has sudo privilages, but dont have the password for that account
[00:24] <need> nothing goes wrong. i just cant find the damn icon of vm to start the software!
[00:25] <need> btw installation is over
[00:25] <OerHeks> anabain, oh, i don't have a clue what you talk about then, nor what your issue is.
[00:25] <nicomachus> need: you've already been warned once about langugage.
[00:25] <nicomachus> language*
[00:25] <anabain> OerHeks, thanks anyway
[00:25] <need> excuse my french
[00:26] <awshelp> its not an aws issue
[00:26] <need> how can i open it up?
[00:26] <nicomachus> need: type "virtualbox" into a terminal
[00:26] <daftykins> codepython777: then you can't do it.
[00:26] <need> cant find the icon even tho i searched from my cpu
[00:27] <nicomachus> need: you don't need to. type "virtualbox" into a terminal.
[00:27] <need> omg
[00:27] <need> finally
[00:27] <daftykins> codepython777: root shouldn't have a password. "su" would try switching
[00:27] <need> i greatly appriciate your help
[00:27] <need> thanks a lot!
[00:27] <daftykins> !manual | need for future reference
[00:27] <need> im so unix stubborn. lol
[00:27] <need> got you bud
[00:28] <need> thanks again!
[00:29] <awshelp> sudo netstat -plutn
[00:29] <awshelp> tcp6       0      0 :::5000                 :::*                    LISTEN
[00:29] <awshelp> 25674/znc
[00:29] <awshelp> what does this mean exactly?
[00:30] <awshelp> is the 6 on the tcp6 relevent?
[00:30] <awshelp> because i cant connect
[00:31] <need> daftykins ty for your help too
[00:32] <daftykins> awshelp: IPv6 listening on port 5000
[00:33] <awshelp> daftykins i have ipv4, is this why it isnt working?
[00:33] <awshelp> it should be listening for ipv4 and ipv6?
[00:33] <daftykins> was that the full netstat output?
[00:33] <awshelp> no
[00:33] <awshelp> for znc yes
[00:33] <daftykins> pastebin the whole thing.
[00:33] <daftykins> don't paste into IRC again
[00:34] <awshelp> ok
[00:35] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/a6hkJRYZ
[00:36] <awshelp> daftykins ^^
[00:38] <Ollie65> Good night everyone, I'm going to hit the sack for now :-)
[00:38] <daftykins> awshelp: yes it's not running on v4
[00:39] <codepython777> daftykins: I just logged into the root shell using a recovery reboot
[00:40] <codepython777> but /home is not mounted. Any chance i can change the password for a user?
[00:40] <daftykins> i thought the idea was it was a remote server you only had network access to
[00:40] <codepython777> daftykins: mount /home gives me : mount: can't find /home in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:40] <daftykins> i don't really like what you're up to, so you'll get no help from me i'm afraid.
[00:40] <codepython777> daftykins: Its a VPS with console access
[00:40] <codepython777> no its not
[00:40] <codepython777> so i rebooted it into revovery mode
[00:40] <codepython777> then ssh root@remotehost - and that worked
[00:41] <codepython777> but the recovery mode does not have /home mounted
[00:41] <daftykins> it wouldn't need it.
[00:41] <codepython777> How do i change a sudo user password?
[00:41]  * daftykins walks off
[00:43] <sruli> codepython777: you cant, if you want to use root account enable it by sudo passwd root
[00:43] <codepython777> sruli: when the machine is booted normally, it does not allow ssh root@remotehost
[00:43] <sruli> codepython777: but u will still be able to execute root privileges with regular user pass using sudo
[00:43] <daftykins> going about things backwards :(
[00:44] <awshelp> daftykins ????
[00:44] <codepython777> VPS providers twisting your hands - dont have access to console
[00:44] <daftykins> Digitalocean work fine for me.
[00:45] <daftykins> awshelp: a series of four question marks is surprisingly VAGUE about what you're asking.
[00:45] <sruli> codepython777: try user@remotehost, by default root logins are disbaled
[00:45] <awshelp> does tcp6 listen on ipv4 as well?
[00:45] <daftykins> awshelp: you wouldn't have a problem if it did! NO!
[00:45] <daftykins> look at your paste, why does it say tcp and tcp6? they're different
[00:46] <codepython777> sruli: passwd user -> Tells me no such user?
[00:46] <awshelp> so this is my problem?
[00:46] <codepython777> Unknown user
[00:46] <daftykins> wow awshelp.
[00:46] <awshelp> what is the purge command for znc again?
[00:46] <awshelp> to purge it
[00:46] <daftykins> no you need to reconfigure it, not purge it
[00:46] <awshelp> i will reconfigure
[00:46] <sruli> codepython777: what is the username?
[00:46] <awshelp> its easier to purge and reinstall/reconfigure
[00:46] <daftykins> sudo dpkg-reconfigure znc
[00:47] <codepython777> sruli: cg - so when i do sudo cg : I get unknown username - in recovery mode.
[00:47] <daftykins> i'm going to assume you're saying it asks for config on install
[00:47] <daftykins> so run that.
[00:47] <awshelp> no i use znc --makeconf
[00:47] <codepython777> sruli: what is surprising is that /etc/shadow does not have cg listed - is that normal?
[00:47] <sruli> codepython777: in recoverymode? i think only root works in recovery, i dont understand  u r ssh'd into recoverymode?
[00:48] <codepython777> sruli: yes, I booted the machine in recovery mode using the VPS provider's web interface. Then I could ssh root@myhost - and that gave me a shell. The problem - nothing in /home
[00:49] <daftykins> awshelp: easier to edit the config.
[00:50] <daftykins> just seen their wiki
[00:50] <daftykins> awshelp: 1) don't leave SSH running on port 22 2) reconfigure znc to listen with IPv4, perhaps instead of v6 in fact. 3) enjoy
[00:51] <awshelp> ty daftykins
[00:51] <sruli> codepython777: if u never used the root to login u wont find anything in /root/home why r u in recovery mode, whats the prob?
[00:52] <SchrodingersScat> there should really never be a /root/home unless you explicitly create it
[00:53] <zumba_addict> I installed ubuntu on vmware on my mac book pro. When I switch to the highest resolution, it looks like it's way beyond the screen
[00:53] <sruli> SchrodingersScat: once u login with root it creates it
[00:53] <zumba_addict> so right now, I'm only at 1440x900
[00:53] <sruli> so this is my story for the last few days, needed a feature to work in virt-manager, couldent get it working supposedly by pressing left ctrl+alt together it should work, no luck many hours of trying and testing, after i found that newer version of spice surely works, as its not available on 14.04 i formatted and installed 15.10 and it still didnt work! after 2 days of trying and wasting my time i found that i was using the right ctrl+alt, instead of left, i hi
[00:54] <SchrodingersScat> sruli: it truly doesn't.  where have you seen this?  Anyway, it's a moot point, he didn't say /root/home/ he said /home/  ; codepython777 are you sure you're looking at the right root? root of the machine and not something else from the recovery mode?
[00:55] <sruli> on the bright side i got to try 15.10 which will give me some time to prepare for 16.04 get used to systemd etc
[00:55] <codepython777> sruli: I dont have a password for any accounts on this machine, but root. I can login into the machine using my ssh keys for the users. Or as root in recover mode
[00:56] <sruli> SchrodingersScat: sorry my mistake it create /root not /home/root
[00:58] <sruli> codepython777: can u create user? adduser $USERNAME
[00:58] <codepython777> What is bizarre, is in recovery mode, /etc/ssh/sshd_config does not have an entry showing PermitRootLogin!?
[00:59] <nolsen_> Ubuntu repositories doesn't have the latest kernel verison yet?
[00:59] <nolsen_> (The 4.3 kernel)
[00:59] <nolsen_> s/4.3/4.3.3
[01:00] <codepython777> sruli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109246/
[01:00] <codepython777> why isnt /home mounting?
[01:00] <nicomachus> nolsen_: no. 15.10 is still using 4.2, 16.04 experimental builds have 4.3 though
[01:00] <nicomachus> but 16.04 will be on 4.4 by launch, iirc
[01:02] <sruli> codepython777: u tried mount -o rw,remount /
[01:02] <codepython777> sruli: nope. In recovery mode? What does that do?
[01:03] <sruli> codepython777: mounts the drive as read/write in recovery mode
[01:07] <codepython777> sruli: how can a file change its contents in recovery mode vs regular mode?
[01:08] <sruli> codepython777: i dont know whats mounted, but if u have the same mounted then the contents should be the same
[01:08] <anabain> I'm having an issue with a rbind dir: /media/joan/USBdevice is rbin mounted at /deuteros/media/joan/USBdevice. Actual mounting (at least this is what it seems to happen) takes place when I click the proper icon on Dolphin. Then, ls /deuteros/media/joan/USB device as joan outputs a permission denied message, and as root it outputs nothing. Any ideas?
[01:12] <sruli> how do i set in grub that it should not display gui for boot encrypted password, display console instead? for some reason in virt-viewer an encrypted install wont display the gui password entry on boot, i have to hit escape to see console password entry
[01:14] <codepython777> sruli: seems like i'm booting in recovery mode but the files are different , when i boot into the regular mode!
[01:15] <codepython777> sruli: makes sense, since in recovery mode, the sshd_config must have been backed up and replaced with a new version - so that its more laxed
[01:18] <lulcat> \
[01:33] <awshelp> how do i make a process auto launch on boot
[01:33] <awshelp> znc
[01:33] <sruli> awshelp: on login or boot?
[01:34] <awshelp> i want it to be always running
[01:34] <awshelp> no matter what
[01:34] <sruli> awshelp: what r u using? 14.04? server? desktop?
[01:34] <awshelp> ubuntu server
[01:34] <awshelp> 14.04
[01:35] <VFDPrim> ok so if i take my ssd out of one computer plug it into the other to move files what should i expect to see and what if the one im moving stuff from has partitions will that be available on the other computer allso
[01:35] <sruli> awshelp: is it a custom script u want to run?
[01:36] <awshelp> sruli znc
[01:38] <sruli> awshelp: http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon
[01:38] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: That is an oipen ended question . Are you going to attempt to boot the trnasfered SSD or just access the files on the SSD, and as such what is the operating system of the host machine ?
[01:39] <awshelp> sruli it says to add a crontab
[01:39] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:39] <awshelp> how do i do that
[01:39] <Azuu> hello
[01:39] <VFDPrim> i just need to move the files easaly from that ssd to the new ssd and be able to access them
[01:39] <awshelp> thats not a command
[01:41] <Azuu> alguien habla español
[01:41] <sruli> awshelp: do u have a znc file in ur /etc/init.d
[01:41] <tlt> !es
[01:41] <cfhowlett> !es
[01:41] <tlt> sorry for that cfhowlett
[01:41] <Azuu> buscar my channel llamado
[01:41] <Azuu> chatazul
[01:42] <awshelp> sruli i dont know
[01:42] <awshelp> how i check
[01:42] <cfhowlett> tlt, no need to apologize.  great minds think alike!
[01:42] <tlt> cfhowlett, alright then, Thanks
[01:43] <sruli> awshelp: check, ls /etc/init.d | grep znc
[01:43] <Azuu> no hablo ingles :(
[01:43] <Azuu> no spkeai englsh
[01:43] <sruli> Azuu: !es
[01:43] <Azuu> no se que hacer??
[01:43] <nicomachus> !es | Azuu
[01:44] <nicomachus> sruli: note the format.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> !es > Azuu,
[01:44] <sruli> nicomachus: tnx
[01:44] <Azuu> join #ubuntu-e
[01:44] <nicomachus> cfhowlett's format works as well, and does it as a PM
[01:44] <sruli> ok, always lerning
[01:45] <nicomachus> :)
[01:45] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Were me, I would install the 2nd drive, format it and partition as desired. copy my files straight across to the new mounted partitions .
[01:45] <sruli> nicomachus: maybe u can help me? how do i set in grub that it should not display gui for boot encrypted password, display console instead? for some reason in virt-viewer an encrypted install wont display the gui password entry on boot, i have to hit escape to see console password entry
[01:45] <nicomachus> not sure, sorry
[01:45] <sruli> was worth a try, tnx
[01:46] <sruli> awshelp: did u check?
[01:47] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om i have no idea how to do that and the other computer still needs the ssd
[01:48] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Consider, ssh into the target system, and copy the files that-a-way ?
[01:48] <nicomachus> yea... rsync it.
[01:48] <VFDPrim> whats ssh?
[01:49] <r3c0n> Does ping -f act like a DDos attack or no?
[01:49] <nicomachus> r3c0n: no.
[01:49] <r3c0n> Okay cause I am trying to troll some of my douchebag friends
[01:50] <awshelp> sruli how i check
[01:50] <nicomachus> suggestion: don't.
[01:50] <sruli> awshelp: check, "ls /etc/init.d | grep znc"
[01:50] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell .
[01:50] <nicomachus> r3c0n: a DDoS attack is not a troll, it is a federal crime.
[01:50] <r3c0n> I know that
[01:51] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om thanks ill take a look
[01:51] <nicomachus> r3c0n: you will receive no help from here on that.
[01:51] <awshelp> ls /etc/init.d | grep znc
[01:51] <awshelp> nothing happens
[01:51] <awshelp> sruli ^
[01:51] <r3c0n> I read the cyber crime laws. I know you get arrested for that. FBI vans are typically involved
[01:51] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: ^^ That way you do not have to mess about pulling and installing hard drives .
[01:52] <tlt> r3c0n, you have to ask in ##security
[01:52] <r3c0n> Oh I forgot I was in #Ubuntu. Thanks
[01:52] <tlt> no problem. It's more appropriate there.
[01:53] <sruli> awshelp: so u dont have it
[01:54] <awshelp> sruli i guess not, what can i do
[01:55] <r3c0n> Btw the way, the DDos was for my Metasploitable box so no cyber laws broken
[01:55] <nicomachus> r3c0n: regardless, you will not receive support here for that.
[01:55] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Are both machines 'buntu, in the same house and able to share the same router ?
[01:55] <r3c0n> I know I won't
[01:56] <VFDPrim> bashing-om yes they are like litaraly inches apart lol
[01:56] <awshelp> can anyone help me?
[01:57] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:57] <awshelp> how i add this crontab
[01:57] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[01:57] <sruli> awshelp: 1. make a bash script with "service znc start" save it as /etc/init.d/znc make it executable "sudo chmod /etc/init.d/znc"
[01:57] <sruli> 2. run  "update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 .
[01:58] <awshelp> sruli is there an easier way
[01:58] <nicomachus> awshelp: do you have a GUI?
[01:58] <sruli> awshelp: sorry, in #1 i made a typo its "sudo chmod +x  /etc/init.d/znc"
[01:58] <VFDPrim> bashing-om i think it would take me years to do transfers that way
[01:59] <nicomachus> why years?
[01:59] <sruli> awshelp: if u have a server with no gui, this is the easiest way, this is good enough for the bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109842/
[01:59] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Follow the guide .. a matter of minutes . Simple really as falling out of bed wide awake .
[02:00] <VFDPrim> lots of files the way it looks is that thats good for just one or two files
[02:00] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: if it's never leaving the network, then it'll go at whatever speed your hardware allows. Which is likely gigabit.
[02:00] <VFDPrim> but it says i would have to type it in for each file
[02:01] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: if you use NitroShare (which is recommended on that page) then you can just drag and drop a whole directory or whatever you want.
[02:01] <awshelp> i am just trying to auto boot znc
[02:01] <awshelp> isnt there an easier way
[02:01] <nicomachus> awshelp: do you have a GUI?
[02:02] <awshelp> ubuntu server
[02:02] <sruli> awshelp: very simple will take a min, 1. "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" then type in from the paste i posted, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to save, 2.  "sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/znc" 3. "sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 ."
[02:02] <nicomachus> awshelp: then sruli's method is the easiest away.
[02:02] <sruli> ctrl+x to exit
[02:02] <VFDPrim> maybe i got the rong link or am blind lol im not seeing ware it says anything about nitro share
[02:03] <awshelp> i am super confused
[02:03] <awshelp> step 1 sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc
[02:03] <awshelp> ten type what?
[02:03] <awshelp> then*
[02:04] <sruli> awshelp: type what u see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109842/
[02:04] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: "sudo apt-get install nitroshare"
[02:04] <sruli> awshelp: once inside nano you type that
[02:05] <VFDPrim> E: Unable to locate package nitroshare
[02:06] <nicomachus> oh, right, I found it because I already had the tarball... whoops.
[02:06] <VFDPrim> lol ok so what do i do lol
[02:06] <VFDPrim> never did anything with tarballs as far as i know so ill need step by step if thats ok
[02:06] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:george-edison55/nitroshare
[02:08] <sruli> awshelp: should look like this http://pasteboard.co/aa70dcX.png
[02:08] <sruli> awshelp: oops ignore the top line with ed in the pic
[02:08] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: then "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install nitroshare"
[02:09] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx
[02:09] <awshelp> is this right
[02:09] <VFDPrim> doing it now
[02:09] <indie_> LEAVE
[02:09] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx  is this right sruli ?
[02:10] <awshelp> and where do i put */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1 then?
[02:11] <sruli> aws help, ctrl+o is what u hit on your keyboard to save the file, ctrl+x is what you hit on the keyboard to exit nano, the nano file should look like the the paste i sent u
[02:11] <awshelp> ok but what about that
[02:11] <awshelp> */10 thing
[02:11] <sruli> awshelp: forgett eh cronjob, this is instead of it
[02:11] <VFDPrim> ok now what
[02:12] <awshelp> ok doing now
[02:12] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: all installed?
[02:12] <VFDPrim> yup
[02:12] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you'll need to install it on both machines.
[02:13] <VFDPrim> ok give me one sec i have to go back up to see exactly what was said lol
[02:13] <nicomachus> np
[02:13] <sruli> awshelp: just to make sure the cronjob you are refering to is to auto start znc, right?
[02:14] <St1gma_> awshelp: use this to install the service http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon
[02:14] <awshelp> so do that after sruli script?
[02:15] <VFDPrim> so odd having two keyboards right infront of me lol
[02:15] <nicomachus> welcome to my life.
[02:15] <sruli> awshelp: i initially sent u the link stigma just posted, i just checked it there is no instructions to setup a cronjob, follow the instructions in that page for debain based systems
[02:15] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: wait until you have terminals that control 3 different machines open on your desktop
[02:15] <awshelp> so what should i do
[02:15] <awshelp> cron job or what u said
[02:15] <sruli> awshelp: what i told u was instead of it, but u will be better off following that page
[02:16] <awshelp> as a daemon?
[02:16] <St1gma_> what sruli did works, and it should be fine but a daemon should make it more "standard"
[02:16] <awshelp> what is a daemon?
[02:16] <sruli> awshelp: just used what i said
[02:17] <sruli> St1gma_: i just checked that page says to use from 15.04
[02:17] <VFDPrim> ok its up and running on both now what do i do i did not understand there directions
[02:17] <St1gma_> awshelp: a daemon is a background process
[02:17] <awshelp> so what should i do???
[02:17] <St1gma_> awshelp: just like a "service" in windows
[02:18] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: one moment, pulling up mine to refresh my memory.
[02:18] <sruli> awshelp: from the top... lets start over...
[02:18] <VFDPrim> ok thanks
[02:18] <awshelp> ok
[02:19] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Must be your lucky day that nicomachus Knows and is on hand and has the app insalled ! wow .
[02:19] <St1gma_> sruli: the page says that Ubuntu 15.04 and on use SystemD
[02:19] <VFDPrim> yea must be as long as it works lol
[02:19] <St1gma_> and those are init scripts
[02:19] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: launch nitroshare, either from a terminal or the dash.
[02:19] <St1gma_> so the question now is "What version are you using awshelp?"
[02:19] <sruli> awshelp: 1. run "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" then type in it should look like this http://pasteboard.co/aa70dcX.png the on your keyboard press ctrl+o to save, then ctrl+x to exit nano, 2. run "sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/znc" 3. run "sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 ."
[02:19] <nicomachus> should only need to do this on one machine, probably the "sender"
[02:20] <sruli> awshelp: thats all
[02:20] <sruli> St1gma_: he said 14.04 server
[02:20] <VFDPrim> i did that and it poped up with instructions and i said ok or what ever and it disapeered
[02:20] <awshelp> yes 14.04
[02:20] <awshelp> server
[02:20] <nicomachus> ha, well that's not usually advised... should read that. but ok.
[02:20] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: click the little icon in your menu bar, and then select "send Directory"
[02:21] <flavio> boa
[02:21] <VFDPrim> oh i did read it and did not understand it lol
[02:21] <flavio> alguem
[02:21] <awshelp> doing now sruli
[02:21] <VFDPrim> ok then select files right?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> !br | Guest90895,
[02:21] <St1gma_> sruli: then he can follow those instructions. but if you have got him down a different path already then might aswell finish that. :)
[02:21] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: yep. select the files/directories you want to send.
[02:22] <awshelp> whats the difference between the bashs cript and the daemon?
[02:22] <awshelp> which is better?
[02:22] <VFDPrim> ok
[02:22] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: after that it should ask you to select who you want to share them with. the other machine SHOULD be listed.
[02:23] <sruli> St1gma_: u saw the instructions i gave him, this is the paste he sent me to confirm that he made the bash file correctly http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx i dont think he'd be able to follow through the official instructions
[02:23] <VFDPrim> it sould not she the one im on correct
[02:23] <VFDPrim> there is one listed but they both have the same name lol
[02:23] <sruli> awshelp: both are bash scripts, difference is what they contain and how they run
[02:23] <nicomachus> ha. are both of your machines named the same thing VFDPrim?
[02:24] <VFDPrim> yes both are named the same thing i do beleive
[02:24] <Tarmin> Hello. Any reports of Ubuntu bricking the MSI Cubi using the suspend function?
[02:24] <VFDPrim> oh i guess not never mind
[02:25] <VFDPrim> ok so i clicked it now i just hit ok?
[02:25] <Tarmin> Another report of Ubuntu bricking Intel's NUC: https://communities.intel.com/thread/93788
[02:25] <nicomachus> yep.
[02:25] <nicomachus> and it'll start.
[02:25] <cfhowlett> Tarmin, why report this here? file a bug!
[02:25] <Tarmin> Anyone know if the problem is limited to the Intel NUC?
[02:25] <VFDPrim> oh cool thnks so very much you are a HUGE help tome today
[02:25] <nicomachus> :)
[02:25] <k1l> Tarmin: seems like a intel muc issue.
[02:25] <nicomachus> Tarmin: doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue.
[02:25] <Tarmin> cfhowlett: I know to avoid the Intel NUC. I'm wanting to know if the MSI Cubi is OK.
[02:25] <VFDPrim> do i have to wait for it to be done to chose more or can i just keep adding them
[02:26] <St1gma_> sruli: gotcha. sorry to interrupt you :)
[02:26] <awshelp> sruli which method is better?
[02:26] <nicomachus> Tarmin: but as that page says, disconnecting the CMOS battery may restore.
[02:26] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you can keep adding.
[02:26] <safe_> How do I automatically mount ntfs-partition at boot? I googled about fstab but it's a little confusing
[02:26] <k1l> Tarmin: there are some intel nuc relabeled. see what that hardware is exactly.
[02:26] <St1gma_> awshelp: keep on doing what sruli is telling you. that's the easier path
[02:27] <Tarmin> k11, Well, I heard the Cubi uses Intel parts. I wonder though if the problem is related to the BIOS Intel uses.
[02:27] <awshelp> ok
[02:27] <VFDPrim> ok thanks much this will be much easyer then any of the other ways that where told to me due the it being a gui thing so thank you verry much you have no idea how much i apreateat it you have made it very easy, there a way i can give you a gold star or something hahaha
[02:27] <sruli> St1gma_: its actually the same, just needs to paste a large chunk of txt ;-)
[02:28] <spug> my 15.10 system upgraded to 4.2.0-22-generic.efi.signed last night and now it cannot find root, however if I can boot 4.2.0-16-generic is the efi.signed significant here ?
[02:28] <k1l> Tarmin: well, i dont know. best is to ask intel or the cubi guys
[02:28] <spug> oops, let me rephrase that..
[02:28] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: yea, NitroShare is great for users that are looking for ease. It's basically just a shell for an rsync command, so if you want to dig into that in the future feel free. :)
[02:29] <spug> my 15.10 system upgraded to 4.2.0-22-generic.efi.signed last night and now it cannot find root, however I can boot  4.2.0-16-generic is the efi.signed significant ?
[02:29] <awshelp> sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 .
[02:29] <awshelp> this is all one command?
[02:29] <VFDPrim> question again is there a way to make it get into a partition? i have a large free space partition that has allot on it that needs to be moved
[02:29] <sruli> awshelp: yes
[02:29] <TJ-> spug: .signed means its expecting SecureBoot. that GRUB core image has some modules not included, such as cryptodisk, so it depends on whether the system is using LUKS encryption, MD RAID, LVM, BTRFS and some other modules not included in .signed
[02:30] <awshelp> sruli done
[02:30] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: as long as that partition is mounted it should be able to access it to *send* files *from* it. I'm not sure about sending files *to* a separate partition on the same machine.
[02:30] <sruli> awshelp: restart, then run "sudo service znc status" to see if its running
[02:30] <awshelp> how do i restart?
[02:30] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: but you can also do that just from Nautilus, so long as the partition is mounted.
[02:30] <spug> TJ-: It's unencrypted and I haven't configured UEFI secure boot... why would it switch from generic to signed I wonder ?
[02:30] <VFDPrim> ok i was telling it to send directory ill try the files thanks
[02:30] <sruli> awshelp: sudo reboot
[02:31] <awshelp> ok
[02:31] <VFDPrim> nope this stupid 15.5 update screwed up being able to get to there from select files
[02:32] <spug> TJ-: It's just a plain old ext4 fstab: "UUID=de0afeb4-669e-4373-a512-fbe55a0e3797 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[02:32] <TJ-> spug: maybe it was only the .signed kernels, and not the .signed GRUB EFI package
[02:33] <spug> TJ-: I guess I'll try a "aptitude install linux-generic"
[02:33] <TJ-> spug: those will come in due to linux-signed-generic
[02:33] <yugi> how to fix the GStreamer
[02:34] <yugi> i am a new boy:)
[02:34] <xangua> yugi: fix what?
[02:34] <spug> TJ-: so how can I get back to an up to date bootable system, I wonder ?
[02:34] <TJ-> spug: does it stop at a busybox prompt?
[02:34] <awshelp> sruli
[02:34] <awshelp> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$ sudo service znc status
[02:34] <awshelp> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$
[02:35] <awshelp>   /etc/init.d/znc: fork: Cannot allocate memory
[02:36] <spug> TJ-: Yes, when I boot any of the 4.2.18,19,21 or 22 signed kernels it times out finding root and drops me in the initramfs busy box, but 4.2.16 if fine.
[02:36] <spug> TJ-: not quite sure how 18,19 and 21 got there and I didn't notice till 22... maybe
[02:36] <TJ-> spug: that suggests there's something missing/broken in the /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION files for those later kernels
[02:37] <TJ-> spug: is there a separate /boot/ file-system? has it run out of space/
[02:37] <awshelp> sruli ?
[02:37] <TJ-> awshelp: looks like the host doesn't have sufficient RAM
[02:37] <awshelp> its a free tier aws instance
[02:38] <awshelp> how much ram cud it need?
[02:38] <sruli> awshelp: how much ram do u have?
[02:38] <TJ-> awshelp: you'd have to check the AWS specs, and look at the current usage with the command "free -m" (reports in Megabytes)
[02:38] <awshelp> i have no idea
[02:39] <spug> TJ-: /boot is under / (/dev/dm-0) and is only 11% in use, there is a seperate /boot/efi but it's only 1% in use.
[02:39] <TJ-> spug: OK, so not the obvious problem then
[02:39] <avis> oddly i'm getting served pages that do not show up on web browsing history.  they are hitting at&t dns servers though.
[02:39] <RonWhoCares> If I have "Kdenlive" installed and I update to the newest release within 'terminal' will 'Kdenlive' stay installed
[02:39] <awshelp>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:39] <awshelp> Mem:           992         53        938          0          0          7
[02:39] <awshelp> -/+ buffers/cache:         46        946
[02:39] <awshelp> Swap:            0          0          0
[02:39] <spug> TJ-: Let me diff /boot/.config for .16 and .22
[02:40] <nicomachus> !paste | awshelp
[02:40] <TJ-> spug: it suggests you've changed something that affects the initramfs-tools package since .16 if those others are affected
[02:40] <awshelp> sorry
[02:40] <VFDPrim> RON DO NOT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:40] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: what why
[02:40] <VFDPrim> leave KDEN LIVE AS IS
[02:41] <awshelp> what can i do??
[02:41] <VFDPrim> beleive me if you have been using it as it was you will not like it it still has most the issues and they chainged some visual things
[02:41] <TJ-> awshelp: memory looks OK
[02:41] <spug> TJ-: only ever clicked the GUI automated updates button or run "aptitude update;aptitude safe-upgrade"
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I am thinking of buying the soon to be released Pine64 to render videos
[02:42] <nicomachus> RonWhoCares: apparently VFDPrim knows what he's talking about.
[02:42] <awshelp> should i follow the daemon tutorial?
[02:42] <VFDPrim> i use it weekly and it is really anoying for me now so much also do not go to 15.10 just my sugestion lol
[02:42] <TJ-> spug: is the root file-system on LVM?
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I would need to start with Ubuntu 14.04
[02:42] <VFDPrim> ROn i dont know much but i do know this lol
[02:42] <sruli> awshelp: i dont know, maybe someone else can help with it, the only thing i can still advise is to change to the official instructions, u can do so easily by, 1. run "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" delete all the text you put in before, paste in all the text from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110326/ then ctrl+o to save then crtl+x to ext. 2. run "sudo update-rc.d znc defaults"
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I am already using Ubuntu 15.10.  I did it working  in this.  I needed to update all the audio drivers.
[02:43] <VFDPrim> 14.4 is just fine hell even 15.4 was fine but with the 15.10 update kden live got all wanky
[02:43] <awshelp> sruli is it hard to do the daemon or crontab thing?
[02:44] <sruli> awshelp: i just told u what u need to change to get the official script
[02:44] <spug> TJ-: Good question, there's no lvs or vgs command installed so I assume, no, but the device manager is managing them: dmsetup ls gives ubuntu--vg-root and ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[02:44] <awshelp> what official script?
[02:45] <RonWhoCares> ok
[02:45] <TJ-> spug: "dpkg -l lvm2" should be 'ii' installed
[02:45] <sruli> awshelp: do u want to try to follow my last instruction to see if it works?
[02:45] <RonWhoCares> Do you know if the user interface is the same
[02:45] <spug> TJ-: the diff doesn't show much, erm, difference.
[02:45] <VFDPrim> RON you also cant use the in program sound finder you actualy have to go to the site and look and its kinda a pain
[02:45] <awshelp> sruli i deleted the instance already
[02:45] <awshelp> gonna start over
[02:45] <VFDPrim> user interface is not the same
[02:45] <spug> TJ-: lvm2 missing in action
[02:46] <awshelp> sruli can i pm?
[02:46] <TJ-> spug: I bet you've managed to uninstall/disable 'lvm2' so it isn't being added to the newer initial ramdisks
[02:46] <VFDPrim> for the most part it is as far as how its set up but they chainged a few icons and what not
[02:46] <TJ-> spug: "sudo apt-get install lvm2"  ... then after it is installed regenerate all the initrd.img  for the kernels that aren't booting
[02:46] <spug> TJ-: No awareness of that, but I'll install lvm2 and see if my initramfs rebuild to happiness
[02:46] <sruli> awshelp: its better if u use public channel, but if u really want i dont mind
[02:46] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: glad you're able to help RonWhoCares with this, but it's really not an *ubuntu* support thing. Perhaps you can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:46] <VFDPrim> also i have set up a main layout that i like and every time i go into it i have to manualy set it to the right one where before i did not have to do that
[02:47] <spug> TJ-: Many, many thanks... will give it a whirl
[02:47] <VFDPrim> Ronwhocares if ou have any other qs just pm me
[02:47] <TJ-> spug: I'll bet this shows lvm missing from all but .16: "for RD in /boot/initrd.img*; do echo $RD; lsinitamfs $RD | grep lvm; done
[02:47] <VFDPrim> no problem Nicomachus
[02:48] <TJ-> spug: typo...  "for RD in /boot/initrd.img*; do echo $RD; lsinitramfs $RD | grep lvm; done"
[02:48] <spug> TJ-: apt logs show the removal: /var/log/apt/term.log.1.gz:Removing lvm2 (2.02.122-1ubuntu1) ...
[02:48] <TJ-> spug: can you tell why?
[02:48] <awshelp> sruli i am tyring to pm
[02:49] <VFDPrim> nicomachus is there a way to select more then one file so transfer at a time on nitro
[02:49] <spug> TJ-: Your script confirms your prognosis
[02:49] <spug> TJ-: only .16 has lvm
[02:49] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you can do a whole directory. just put all the files/directories you want into one directory and send that.
[02:50] <VFDPrim> ok
[02:50] <spug> TJ-: Hunting through logs for clues as to how it decided to get rid of lvm2
[02:51] <VFDPrim> guess i did not realise the difrence in a directory and a file thanks yet again
[02:52] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: directory is basically the linux word for what windows would call a folder.
[02:52] <awshelp> guys
[02:52] <awshelp> can someone please tell me how to make this crontab?
[02:52] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[02:53] <sruli> awshelp: i thought u r reinstalling server now? when u finished .. we'll try to help u further
[02:53] <spug> TJ-: seems like something decided to get rid of 4.2.16-generic-signed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110453/
[02:53] <awshelp> sruli yes i am but i am trying to find otu what i need to do
[02:53] <awshelp> for crontab
[02:53] <sruli> awshelp: its a few simple commands
[02:54] <spug> TJ-: and that included lvm2 and some other crypto relates stuff.
[02:54] <awshelp> can u tell me plz
[02:54] <spug> TJ-: s/relates/related/
[02:54] <TJ-> spug: in the related term.log.X.gz you might find more info
[02:55] <sruli> coffee break
[02:55] <spug> TJ-: Throwing emacs at it now...
[02:55] <awshelp> ok i am setting it up
[02:57] <VFDPrim> ok im gunna sighn off here thank agian for all the help i now have a few hours of sorting and transfering to do lol
[02:59] <spug> TJ-: Seems to have happened post 4.2.18: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110505/
[02:59] <spug> TJ-: Gonna just install lvm2 and rebuild the initramfs and see if that's enough to get me back.
[02:59] <TJ-> spug: there are some very unexpected packages in that purge list, "ubiquity-casper" for example, should only be on the live installer
[03:00] <TJ-> spug: "Running in chroot, ignoring request.^M" ... you did a recovery at tha ttime?
[03:00] <spug> TJ-: I did a USB stick install to a mechanical drive, and then switched to an SSD, I think the install wasn't the smoothest experience I've had but I'm afraid I don't recall the wrinkles.
[03:01] <spug> TJ-: All this on a tiny ASRock BeeBox.
[03:01] <yppo> I get those wierd wfw block in my syslog, can this be a security threat? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/929c46bb3d6e76d6a8f8
[03:01] <yppo> ufW*
[03:02] <TJ-> spug: those messages suggest packages used by the installer in the live environment were actually deleted from the /target/ system because the command was issued whilst in the chroot /target/
[03:02] <spug> TJ-: Not conciously
[03:02] <awshelp> done
[03:02] <awshelp> ok
[03:02] <awshelp> crontab
[03:02] <awshelp> how i do this please
[03:03] <spug> TJ-: consciously
[03:03] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:04] <sruli> the answer to my next question is gonna kill me
[03:04] <sruli> awshelp: did u install znc
[03:04] <nicomachus> lol
[03:04] <St1gma_> -_-
[03:04] <awshelp> yes
[03:04] <awshelp> done
[03:04] <awshelp> and configed
[03:05] <sruli> so i die of embarrassment
[03:05] <awshelp> whyyy?
[03:05] <awshelp> do i have to do this agin
[03:05] <awshelp> again
[03:05] <sruli> awshelp: do waht again?
[03:05] <awshelp> format reinstall
[03:06] <St1gma_> I'm so confused... I'm not sure what you are trying to do. I assume just prevent ZNC from dying?
[03:06] <sruli> awshelp: who said u need to format -reinstall?
[03:06] <awshelp> i dont know
[03:06] <awshelp> why r u embarrased
[03:06] <nicomachus> St1gma_: he just wants to make znc start as a startup application, and it's become entirely too difficult.
[03:06] <spug> TJ-: Giving: "update-initramfs -u" a whirl
[03:06] <sruli> awshelp: no one said u should u decided out of ur on freew ill to do so
[03:07] <awshelp> no i know
[03:07] <awshelp> i wanted to
[03:07] <awshelp> but i am asking
[03:07] <sruli> guys setting a cronjob for a user, will it run on boot if user doesnt login?
[03:07] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:07] <St1gma_> yes
[03:07] <awshelp> znc wiki says this is the best way to do it
[03:07] <sruli> awshelp: some patience please
[03:08] <awshelp> sorry
[03:08] <sruli> St1gma_: was the yes directed at my question regarding crontab?
[03:08] <spug> TJ-: 4.2.0-22 now has lvm2 in it's ram disk... will give it a whirl
[03:09] <St1gma_> sruli: yeah. the other easy option is rc.local
[03:09] <sruli> awshelp: 1. run "crontab -e"
[03:09] <St1gma_> echo "/usr/local/bin/znc" > /etc/rc.local
[03:09] <IBM_CLONE> I have been away from the Ubuntu forums lately. Just came back and would like to know about the best web server such as Apache. Is that the industry standard right now or is there a better one?
[03:09] <awshelp> done
[03:09] <k1l> IBM_CLONE: apache is known to work
[03:09] <St1gma_> s/>/>>/
[03:09] <sruli> awshelp: what the last line u see?
[03:10] <Ben64> awshelp: did you configure znc yet
[03:10] <St1gma_> IBM_CLONE: Ubuntu has nothing to do with the best web server out there
[03:10] <awshelp> Ben64 yes
[03:10] <awshelp> sruli select an editor
[03:10] <IBM_CLONE> K11 thanks. I have used it in the past.
[03:10] <sruli> awshelp: select nano
[03:10] <St1gma_> IBM_CLONE: Apache2 is great, so is NGINX, depends on your needs.
[03:10] <ni_> Best or not I use Apache
[03:10] <awshelp> bin/nano ?
[03:11] <sruli> awshelp: nano
[03:11] <IBM_CLONE> St1 I agree. I was just interested if there were something new. I refuse to use Windows Servers.
[03:11] <awshelp> sruli https://gyazo.com/cfdad9c678b91e98aa20a9041b6bc62a
[03:11] <awshelp> #2 ?
[03:12] <sruli> awshelp: type "2" then hit enter on ur keybaord
[03:12] <awshelp> done
[03:12] <sruli> awshelp: now what is the last line u see?
[03:13] <awshelp> https://gyazo.com/0229ca2cd2d264454b7ef62cb5ca13f3
[03:13] <St1gma_> go to the end copy/paste the crontab command
[03:13] <St1gma_> then pretty ctrl+x
[03:13] <St1gma_> then yes
[03:13] <St1gma_> should say something like "crontab installed"
[03:14] <IBM_CLONE> I suppose just use the apt-get install and install the Apache server then.
[03:14] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:14] <awshelp> this line/.?
[03:14] <sruli> yes
[03:14] <Ben64> awshelp: thats still incorrect
[03:14] <awshelp> can i change it to 3 minutes?
[03:14] <awshelp> Ben64 its from the znc wiki
[03:14] <sruli> awshelp: yes
[03:15] <Ben64> awshelp: ok fine, do whatever you want
[03:15] <awshelp> actually i wannat change it to 1 minute
[03:15] <St1gma_> Ben64: yeah that'll keep on trying to spawn the process
[03:15] <Ben64> officially giving up
[03:15] <awshelp> */1 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:15] <awshelp> ?
[03:15] <sruli> awshelp: change it to whatever you want
[03:15] <Ben64> tried yesterday, i feel like i've said the same thing a million times
[03:15] <awshelp> Ben64 i didnt try this yesterday
[03:16] <awshelp> yesterday was a different issue
[03:16] <Ben64> yes you did
[03:16] <awshelp> no
[03:16] <awshelp> i tried to execute this line as a command yesterday
[03:16] <awshelp> lol
[03:16] <sruli> awshelp: did u yet save the crontab?
[03:16] <awshelp> not yet
[03:16] <IBM_CLONE> I came here earlier today and asked if there were an interface with Apache web server that has live one on one talk with a client. Any comments on that?
[03:16] <awshelp> */1 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:17] <awshelp> this means 1 minute
[03:17] <awshelp> ?
[03:17] <SchrodingersScat> IBM_CLONE: one on one talk?
[03:17] <sruli> yes
[03:17] <IBM_CLONE> Yes.
[03:17] <awshelp> ok
[03:17] <IBM_CLONE> I have been on some websites and the interface was like an IRC chat with a channel list like this channel.
[03:18] <sruli> awshelp: have u saved the crontab?
[03:18] <awshelp> not yet
[03:18] <kuschel> JOIN #lxcontainers
[03:18] <sruli> awshelp: u r waiting for?
[03:18] <awshelp> should there be an extra line at the end, or should the crontab entry be the last line, or it doesnt matter?
[03:18] <nicomachus> doesn't matter
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | kuschel
[03:18] <awshelp> extra blank line
[03:18] <awshelp> ok
[03:19] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: I assume he was trying to join and forgot the /
[03:19] <awshelp> done
[03:19] <awshelp> how do i reopen the crontab to verify it did save?
[03:19] <sruli> awshelp: run "sudo service znc status"
[03:20] <sruli> awshelp: the same way u opened it the fist time "crontab -e"
[03:20] <sruli> awshelp: run "sudo service znc status"
[03:20] <awshelp> unrecognized service
[03:20] <St1gma_> awshelp: crontab -l
[03:20] <sruli> and i asked if u installed it!
[03:20] <awshelp> i did
[03:20] <SchrodingersScat> IBM_CLONE: I think that would be outside the scope of this channel and more about whatever people have created that can run on apache2/php5, there are probably quite a few chat options.  There's also jitsi-meet that defaults using nginx
[03:20] <awshelp> its running
[03:21] <St1gma_> awshelp: you gotta make sure that you provide the channel with enough information to help you
[03:21] <regedit> hello
[03:21] <IBM_CLONE> SchrodingersScat here is a sample of what I am talking about. I don't endorse this website, but it is what I am looking for.   http://www.chat-avenue.com/
[03:21] <St1gma_> you said you installed it, where did you install it? was it the package?
[03:21] <awshelp> znc is installed and running, i am connected to it
[03:21] <St1gma_> run "which znc"
[03:21] <awshelp> sudo apt-get install znc
[03:21] <St1gma_> awshelp: please run "which znc"
[03:22] <regedit> so my system *used* to delete older kernels (keeping 1 older version around, i think) automatically. but recently (after upgrading to 15.10 maybe?) all kernels keep piling up, old ones do not get autoremoved anymore
[03:22] <awshelp>    /usr/bin/znc
[03:22] <awshelp> i just tried to run this as a command also by accident
[03:22] <awshelp> did i mes soemthign up
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> regedit: I think I noticed the same thing :/  need to watch my /boot/ on a few vps now.
[03:23] <St1gma_> go back to your crontab and make sure that's what you have in there
[03:23] <sruli> awshelp: in ur crontab "crontab -l" change the path u put from /usr/local/bin/znc to usr/bin/znc
[03:24] <awshelp> done
[03:24] <St1gma_> SchrodingersScat: doesn't "apt-get autoremove" work for you?
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> well, /usr/bin/znc
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> St1gma_: not in that situation, no
[03:24] <nicomachus> regedit: you can remove them manually.
[03:24] <St1gma_> so you might have to run update-grub2
[03:24] <St1gma_> manually
[03:24] <nicomachus> regedit: just make sure you don't remove all of them.
[03:25] <awshelp> sruli done
[03:25] <sruli> awshelp: yes, i forgot the leading / it should be /usr/bin/znc
[03:25] <St1gma_> I assume, because I have a couple of VPS on 15.10 and I don't have that issue
[03:25] <awshelp> yup i did that
[03:25] <awshelp> sudo service znc service?
[03:25] <sruli> awshelp: restart ur server wait however long u specified in ur crontab and see if it started
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> or you could sudo apt-get remove linux-image-{version} and then run an autoremove, what I've been doing, idk why you'd jump to manually removing them.
[03:25] <awshelp> unrecognized service
[03:26] <awshelp> before reboot
[03:26] <awshelp> shud i be concerned
[03:26] <St1gma_> yeah... I do autoremove, works.. first I hear about this issue
[03:26] <regedit> nicomachus: i would really love it if the previous behaviour continued where older kernels (2 releases back or so) were autoremoved...
[03:26] <regedit> nicomachus: any clue how that used to work, why it doesnt work now, and how can this behavior be restored?
[03:27] <sruli> awshelp: try "sudo service /usr/bin/znc status"
[03:27] <awshelp> ok rebooting i will after its on
[03:28] <nicomachus> regedit: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[03:28] <awshelp> ok
[03:28] <awshelp> it worked :-d
[03:28] <nicomachus> regedit: to a pastebin, please. :)
[03:28] <regedit> nicomachus: sure hang on, thanks...
[03:28] <awshelp> sweet
[03:28] <awshelp> thank you so much sruli and St1gma and everyone else :-d <333333
[03:28] <sruli> for some
[03:29] <regedit> nicomachus: for some reason everyone gets the "never autoremove" treatment now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110847/
[03:29] <regedit> no wait
[03:29] <nicomachus> regedit: there are only 2 kernels there. that is normal, and advised.
[03:30] <regedit> yes it does look good
[03:30] <regedit> so why do i have so many other kernels?
[03:30] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: so, that's a little interesting, in one machine it lists 2, in another it lists 3, I call shenanigans.  Note that the one that has 3 is the machine with the lowest /boot/
[03:30] <nicomachus> regedit: well, let's see what 'sudo ls /boot' looks like
[03:31] <regedit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110866/
[03:31] <nicomachus> regedit: yea... that is odd.
[03:32] <nicomachus> regedit: so apt-get autoremove catches nothing now?
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: before i rebooted, apt-get was claiming it "kept back" linux headers etc. but after booting into new kernel apt-get doesnt do anything about older kernels anymore :(
[03:33] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: you can check /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal to see how many are set to be removed.
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: i do remember seeing some output from running that
[03:33] <nicomachus> regedit: "kept back" means it isn't installing them... you have to run apt-get dist-upgrade to install them.
[03:33] <nicomachus> regedit: that's referring to *new* kernel installs, not old ones.
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: ye exactly until i did dist-upgrade and rebooted
[03:34] <regedit> ah ok
[03:34] <spug> TJ-: 4.2.0-22 working perfectly, amazing powers of deduction on picking that lvm2 was missing!
[03:34] <IraL> Is there anyone around who knows abount dual boot on modern UEFI?
[03:34] <nicomachus> regedit: so what do you get from ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '?
[03:34] <gambl0re> is npm the same thing as ruby gems?
[03:35] <regedit> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110905/
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !info npm | gambl0re, looks like node.js treachery
[03:36] <nicomachus> regedit: ok. so what happens when you run autoremove?
[03:37]  * regedit awaits further messages from nicomachus like a panting puppy with drooping tongue
[03:37] <regedit> lol
[03:37] <regedit> at this point nothing
[03:37] <nicomachus> no treats for you.
[03:37] <regedit> :D
[03:38] <regedit> nicomachus: there was output one time, but now nothing
[03:38] <regedit> a bunch of lines starting with "Del" or something
[03:38] <regedit> is there a history log of apt-get autoremove i can examine?
[03:39] <awshelp> thanks again everyone cya
[03:39] <IraL> Please anyone who can advise on dual boot with UEFI and SSD >>> Many Thanks
[03:40] <nicomachus> regedit: there is a log for apt-get at /var/log/apt/term.log but idk if it'll really tell you anything
[03:40] <regedit> IraL: feel free to ask your actual question. just spill the beans instead of asking to do so :)
[03:43] <regedit> nicomachus: ye i cant find that output in there..
[03:43] <IraL> Sorry for being unclear just collected on Squaretrade Warranty after following Ubuntu Forum advice and repair-boot Want advice on forthcoming Digital Storm System with UEFI?SSD/etc
[03:43] <nicomachus> regedit: yea it's a pretty worthless log tbh. wish it was better. :/
[03:44] <St1gma_> gambl0re: yes, npm is the package manager for node.js where gem is the one for ruby. You might want to ask in those channels if you have any more questions.
[03:45] <nicomachus> regedit: this is 15.10 right?
[03:45] <regedit> nicomachus: yep, sure is
[03:45] <regedit> Linux regedit-U410 4.2.0-22-generic #27-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:57:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:45] <nicomachus> ok, I'm just looking around to see if there's a bug report for this.
[03:46] <regedit> thanks
[03:46] <ashzilla> how
[03:47] <IraL> @regedit Could you mention a "Canonical" site for good UEFI aand SSD dual booting advice
[03:47] <ashzilla> im wondering how i can install the unsquashfs tool
[03:47] <regedit> lsb-release shows DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=wily DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.10"
[03:48] <nicomachus> regedit: what's the output of ' apt-mark showmanual | grep linux-image '?
[03:48] <regedit> IraL: first few links here https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20uefi&rct=j
[03:50] <regedit> nicomachus: hm come to think of, i should mention i had troubles during upgrade 15.04 > 15.10 and had to apt-get -f install which deferred me to dpkg -a --configure which seemingly finished things, but yes maybe some became "manual"?...
[03:50] <regedit> checking..
[03:50] <IraL> Many Thanks actually had first 2 sites trying to disambiguate is there a contact person at Canonical on dual boot?
[03:51] <regedit> IraL: ask the specific detail/quote right here
[03:52] <regedit> nicomachus: well whadya know http://paste.ubuntu.com/14111019/
[03:52] <regedit> nicomachus: what does this mean? and why do newer kernels keep getting marked as manual?
[03:52] <regedit> or is it really only up to 4.2.0-19
[03:52] <IraL> Thanks I'll have to wait till I buy new system following advice on earlier HP allin1 on ubuntu forums destroyed disk leading to warranty check now buying new system with SSD and fancy UEFi and scared :-(
[03:53] <regedit> nicomachus: ...which is the 1st kernel since upgrade to 15.10
[03:53] <nicomachus> regedit: those were all marked as manual?
[03:53] <regedit> nicomachus: that is the output i get from your command ^
[03:55] <regedit> nicomachus: if they were marked as manual, i have no idea how/why (unless the troublesome upgrade story i relayed before ^ )
[03:55] <nicomachus> ok, well that explains it. I'm wondering if those were on the system whenever you upgraded to 15.10, and the upgrade somehow forced them to become marked as "manually installed". and since autoremove doesn't remove any manually installed packages, it won't remove them.
[03:55] <regedit> so is it just a matter of marking them as automatic?
[03:56] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: try this out
[03:56] <nicomachus> the 4.2.0-19 kernel is marked properly, because that's how autoremove knows to not remove it. but those 3.19 kernels should be marked as "automatic" so that autoremove can clear them out.
[03:56] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: [22:48] <nicomachus> regedit: what's the output of ' apt-mark showmanual | grep linux-image '?
[03:56] <SchrodingersScat> regedit: nothing
[03:56] <nicomachus> now, I don't know for SURE why those were marked manual. but I'm GUESSING it was because they were in the system during the upgrade... that's the only thing I can think of.
[03:56] <regedit> nicomachus: why should 4.2.0-19 not be removed?
[03:57] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: bummer...
[03:57] <regedit> ah ok
[03:57] <regedit> plus maybe my troubles during the upgrade...
[03:57] <nicomachus> perhaps. what were those trouble again?
[03:58] <nicomachus> you interrupted the upgrade, right?
[03:58] <regedit> nicomachus: system froze completely while doing something seemingly important (kernel upgrade perhaps?)
[03:58] <regedit> i had to kill power, when rebooted i got grub recovery console
[03:59] <regedit> had to live CD boot-repair and update-grub
[03:59] <nicomachus> ah that's right
[03:59] <regedit> after which i did apt-get -f install which in turn told me to dpkg -a --configure
[04:00] <nicomachus> well, go ahead and remove those older ones manually for now.
[04:00] <regedit> nicomachus: also the 4.2.0-19 right?
[04:00] <nicomachus> regedit: yes. just make sure to leave -21 and -22
[04:00] <regedit> just for fun, i'd like to mark them as automatic and see if apt autoremoves them, or is this a terrible idea for some reason?
[04:01] <nicomachus> hmm... should be fine.
[04:02] <regedit> nicomachus: oh but wait, which packages do i mark automatic? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14111106/
[04:03] <regedit> linux-headers-* linux-signed-* linux-image-* ?
[04:03] <regedit> what about linux-generic
[04:03] <regedit> and linux-signed-generic
[04:03] <nicomachus> linux-generic is the big one. but you may be getting yourself into a mess using regex on those...
[04:04] <nicomachus> just do it carefully.
[04:04] <regedit> ok i'll do 'em verbosely
[04:04] <regedit> but all of those?
[04:04] <regedit> wtf is linux-sound-base
[04:05] <regedit> nicomachus: am i supposed to also remove the linux-(signed-)generic then?
[04:06] <nicomachus> eeeehhhh... that's an EFI thing right? I have no idea.
[04:06] <regedit> i'll leave those alone then... too scared
[04:12] <Felishia> help
[04:12] <Felishia> I'm trying to find the devel package for openjdk-7 but I can't find it
[04:13] <Felishia> I find it for red hat and opensuse though
[04:14] <nicomachus> Felishia: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre' doesn't work for you?
[04:14] <Felishia> weird i thought I had that installed
[04:14] <regedit> nicomachus: alright looks like this was indeed the solution, rebooting now. thanks for the help!
[04:18] <Felishia> I installed the android sdk but where in the world is adb?
[04:18] <rww> in android-tools-adb
[04:18] <k1l_> ubuntu ships adb
[04:18] <k1l_> install android-tools-fastboot and android-tools-adb
[04:20] <codepython777> how do i make scp exclude /mnt/dev/* ? --exclude doesnt seem to work
[04:22] <Felishia> I found it
[04:22] <Felishia> it's in platform-tools
[04:22] <Felishia> hmmm...
[04:22] <Felishia> however it still says that I need the devel java jar libraries
[04:22] <Felishia> so the jre didn't work for it
[04:23] <Ben64> what exactly is the error
[04:23] <k1l_> java 7 sounds somewhat old
[04:23] <nicomachus> k1l_: it is...
[04:23] <nicomachus> 8 is current
[04:23] <zykotick9> codepython777: i believe --exclude is a rsync switch, not a scp one...
[04:24] <codepython777> zykotick9: how do i use it on a scp - rsync -e ssh seems to require rsync on the other end. And I'm not root on the other side. Cant install rsync
[04:25] <Ben64> rsync -e ssh
[04:26] <zykotick9> codepython777: sorry, i have no idea.  good luck.
[04:26] <Ben64> doesn't need rsync
[04:26] <regedit> nicomachus: now when i autoremove, apt wants to remove... 4.2.0-21 ? and when i check 01autoremove-kernels it actually has -19 and -22?? wtf http://paste.ubuntu.com/14112841/
[04:26] <codepython777> Ben64: it does!
[04:26] <codepython777> I just tried it , and complains that rync is not available on the other end
[04:27] <xpruined> codepython777: that's right. You don't have to take that. zykotick9
[04:27] <Ben64> codepython777: oh weird it does
[04:27] <codepython777> Ben64: its lame!
[04:27] <Ben64> lame that you don't have rsync...
[04:28] <nicomachus> lol
[04:28] <xpruined> nicomachus: funny huh
[04:31] <codepython777> Ben64: I'm not root - this machine doesnt even have gcc!
[04:31] <nolsen> I'm trying to remove Gnome3 but it seems I'm having a bit of problem, I tried purging it but gnome-session is still a command.
[04:31] <nolsen> What do I do?
[04:33] <nicomachus> nolsen: I believe you want to remove gnome-shell, not gnome-session.
[04:34] <nolsen> nicomachus: gnome-shell will also delete other stuff.
[04:34] <nolsen> oh wait.
[04:34] <nolsen> Package 'gnome-shell' is not installed, so not removed
[04:35] <nolsen> nicomachus: I already deleted parts of the DE.
[04:35] <nolsen> But the command is still there.
[04:36] <nicomachus> nolsen: why are you trying to remove it?
[04:36] <nolsen> nicomachus: Because gnome is horrible.
[04:36] <nicomachus> aka, what's your end-goal here?
[04:37] <nolsen> I just want to remove it, it's shit.
[04:37] <nicomachus> please use calm, polite language here.
[04:39] <nolsen> It's a waste on my computer.
[04:39] <nolsen> Because it's horrible.
[04:39] <nolsen> I don't know how to undo the installation.
[04:39] <nolsen> Because it wants to delete other stuff I want...
[04:39] <ericcaron> how to do what installation?
[04:39] <nolsen> Gnome...
[04:40] <ericcaron> why would you want that gone?
[04:40] <nolsen> ...
[04:40] <nicomachus> nolsen: ok. what's the output of ' env | grep $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP '?
[04:40] <jelly> nicomachus: you want to remove $ from that grep
[04:40] <nolsen>  env | grep $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP : command not found
[04:40] <Ben64> nolsen: what do you want instead of gnome
[04:40] <nolsen> ...
[04:41] <nicomachus> jelly: no, I don't.
[04:41] <nolsen> Ben64: I know what I want and how to get it, I just want to get rid of gnome DE.
[04:41] <nolsen> it's that simple of an answer...
[04:41] <Ben64> it isn't
[04:42] <nicomachus> nolsen: ok.
[04:42] <Ben64> install mini iso and choose exactly what you want then
[04:42] <nicomachus> nolsen: sudo apt-get install env
[04:42] <jelly> but then it returns more lines than just "which DE is running at present"
[04:42] <nicomachus> then run that command again
[04:42] <nicomachus> jelly: no, it doesn't.
[04:42] <ericcaron> ok you want to get rid of gnome , but don't want it to get rid of what? and what's replacing your "gnome"
[04:43] <nicomachus> jelly: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14112928/
[04:43] <nicomachus> ok... he left.
[04:44] <nicomachus> I was gonna help.
[04:44] <Ben64> he didn't want help
[04:45] <jelly> nicomachus: so you grepped for "Unity".  If it were "KDE" for example, you'd have gotten 4-5 lines with all the env.vars containing KDE
[04:45] <nicomachus> jelly: and that's fine. I'm 90% positive he was running unity.
[04:45] <ericcaron> if he wanted help he would have stayed to listen to some ideas. he was in a hurry for a quick fix. quick fixes lead to bad things happening .... i know this a bit too well :)
[04:47] <ericcaron> question ( yes i am still very new to a lot of this) is Kubuntu generally slower at opening programs than other versions of Linux?
[04:47] <Ben64> no
[04:48] <ericcaron> must be something with my macbook pro then (wrong version to install on an older macbook)....
[04:49] <nicomachus> ericcaron: you may look into a lighter distro like lubuntu or xubuntu.
[04:49]  * jelly wonders which release has /usr/bin/env not be part of coreutils package
[04:49] <nicomachus> jelly: get over it. I gave the command to get the info I wanted to help him.
[04:50] <ericcaron> i was thinking the same thing nico... i have pretty much kubuntu and 2 skins installed. net works everything works nice  just seems sluggish
[04:50] <jelly> nicomachus: I'm over it.  env not in path is a different thing.
[04:51] <django_> im on lubuntu, when i hit crtl tab i accidentally hit something else and all the programs open, left from the start bar dissappear
[04:51] <django_> but they are still open
[04:51] <django_> grrrr
[04:51] <django_> i cant alt tab to them either
[04:51] <django_> alt tab**
[04:52] <ericcaron> am i able to do a direct install from the terminal/command  of xubuntu?
[04:52] <nicomachus> django_: you probably switch workspaces. (if lubuntu has them)
[04:52] <django_> how?
[04:52] <ericcaron> you should be able to disable the workspaces if you don't plan on using them django :)
[04:53] <dangered> Hey
[04:53] <django_> ericcaron, how do i swtich to it
[04:53] <ericcaron> not sure on your current version it should be in your settings. to change the keys to swap desktop environment etc.
[04:54] <django_> ericcaron, im hitting alt tab and i accidentally remove everything
[04:54] <django_> but programs remain open
[04:54] <django_> with their same states
[04:54] <ericcaron> yes thats your key combination to swap around work spaces.... need to locate your work spaces in your settings.
[04:55] <django_> how
[04:55] <ericcaron> bottom left corner should pop up a menu with all your programs like system settings , applications and such
[04:55] <django_> ctrl alt tab isnt doing it
[04:56] <nicomachus> django_: try Ctrl+Alt+left/right arrows
[04:56] <ericcaron> ^ or try that :)
[04:56] <django_> worksksksks
[04:56] <django_> omg ty
[04:56] <nicomachus> that do it?
[04:56] <django_> yes
[04:56] <nicomachus> \o/
[04:57] <hhee> hi guys. which image editor (resize, crop, hue save in others format) in linux can i use?
[04:57] <ericcaron> lol if you want to keep it do that if not well try my suggestion later lol
[04:57] <nicomachus> !gimp | hhee
[04:58] <hhee> nicomachus, i know it. but it's very big. i m not want so many features. just e few for some basic edition
[04:59] <nicomachus> hhee: ah, ok. imagemagick can do that, but it's a command-line program. shotwell and pinta may also be of interest.
[05:00] <fzec> the best one is Gimp
[05:01] <fzec> but the easiest is Kolourpaint
[05:01] <ericcaron> other ones work nicely too. but gimp like hhee said is kind of large :)
[05:01] <hhee> nicomachus, oh tnx. command line - not that i'm need. (i need manual edit) shotwell and pinta - i'll check it tnx :)
[05:01] <nicomachus> good luck.
[05:02] <hhee> nicomachus, wow it seems cool http://pinta-project.com/
[05:02] <nicomachus> I've never used it, but it seems similar to MS Paint
[05:05] <hhee> nicomachus, i think more powerfull
[05:06] <nicomachus> hhee: the story of linux :)
[05:10] <Gallomimia> grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[05:10] <Gallomimia> grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:10] <Gallomimia> um. i think i'm doing something wrong...
[05:10] <ericcaron> what are you trying to embed Gallomimia?
[05:11] <Gallomimia> well, i'm trying to install grub to a separate /boot partition
[05:11] <Gallomimia> since i have most of my disk allocated to raid
[05:11] <ericcaron> do you already have it on one?
[05:11] <Gallomimia> no
[05:12] <ericcaron> do you have a spare partition? have you made a partition for it?
[05:12] <Gallomimia> yes
[05:12] <Gallomimia> sda1 is 249 mb ext2 for /boot and sda2 is 1gb ext3 for /boot/EFI im not quite sure how it goes
[05:12] <ericcaron> might not be a good idea to do it on a raid partition just yet. ( wouldn't want to wreck anything)
[05:13] <Gallomimia> i put those partitions in before raiding
[05:13] <Gallomimia> sda3 is 2TB for raid
[05:13] <ericcaron> i had a friend do it incorrectly and wrecked the raid setup badly....
[05:13] <Gallomimia> well everything is fine for now, except the boot isn't working
[05:14] <ericcaron> what message are you getting at the boot? anything?
[05:14] <Gallomimia> and i need to embed lvm and dmcrypt in my initrd
[05:14] <Gallomimia> uh... gee i haven't tried booting from that in awhile
[05:14] <Gallomimia> for now i have ubuntu installed on a flash drive :/ supah-slow
[05:15] <ericcaron> have you googled up a raid support for the grub you are attempting to instal?
[05:16] <ericcaron> i think theres a seperate one specific for raid set ups. could be wrong though
[05:16] <Gallomimia> i had this working once before... the installer fluked into it this one time but i haven't been able to repeat the process
[05:17] <ericcaron> shame u didnt have a backup of how it was when it was working could have pulled the backup for a repair
[05:18] <Gallomimia> yeah
[05:19] <ericcaron> would be able to help out more if i had an idea of what things looked like .
[05:22] <regedit> nicomachus: (still there?) does it make sense that 10autoremove-kernels would in fact retain 4.2.0-19 and -22 but not -21 ?
[05:23] <nicomachus> regedit: no, not really. did you mark all those as auto-installed? including the -19?
[05:24] <regedit> nicomachus: yes... should i not have?
[05:25] <nicomachus> well I don't think it matters, really, but it probably has something do with that.
[05:26] <ericcaron> *is curious about this auto-remove kernel.
[05:28] <regedit> oh well i'll just wait for another kernel release and see then...
[05:28] <regedit> nicomachus: where was it located again please?
[05:28] <nicomachus> regedit: where was what located?
[05:29] <regedit> nvm found it /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[05:29] <regedit> ericcaron: ^
[05:29] <regedit> also /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal
[05:30] <nicomachus> yep. I would NOT recommend editing those.
[05:30] <nicomachus> unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing.
[05:30] <ericcaron> so if i remove some of the kernal will this speed my Kubuntu up  some? lol
[05:30] <ericcaron> i know to keep at least the last 3 kernels ... just in cast
[05:30] <ericcaron> case*
[05:30] <nicomachus> ericcaron: not likely....
[05:31] <ericcaron> good thing my laptop is for testing only lol and not an expensive new one to get stupid with ;)
[05:32] <nicomachus> ericcaron: if you want you can check 'sudo ls /boot' to see how many kernels are chillin there
[05:32] <regedit> aight im off, cheers
[05:33] <ericcaron> heh i def will one sec.
[05:35] <ericcaron> not as many as i thought.   so not worth touching just yet
[05:38] <ericcaron> :P lots to learn     thank goodness i have something to test things on ;)
[05:47] <ericcaron> steam work decent if i wanted to try out some games via kubuntu? or still a lot of bugs to fix?
[05:47] <nicomachus> ericcaron: steam is great on linux now. not a TON of games, but lots. and lots more on the way.
[05:48] <ericcaron> hmm hoping to at least get something working on my old macbook :P just to see it play something would be nice
[05:48] <foxlet> I seem to have an issue with a C710’s trackpad under 14.04.3.
[05:49] <foxlet> It doesn’t work at all.
[05:49] <ericcaron> try enabling your trackpad?
[05:49] <ericcaron> has it ever worked or just stopped working?
[05:50] <foxlet> ericcaron: The trackpad can’t be disabled as far as I’m aware, and it has worked before.
[05:50] <nicomachus> foxlet: yes it can. when did it stop working?
[05:50] <foxlet> nicomachus: When making the move from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04.
[05:50] <foxlet> Via a clean installation.
[05:51] <ericcaron> you probably just need to go under the devices section in your system settings and just turn it on :) i had to do the same for my macbook pro
[05:51] <nicomachus> foxlet: ah, ok. apparently ubuntu blacklists a pretty key module for that particular trackpad.
[05:51] <foxlet> nicomachus: I had already removed the blacklist for the i2c module if that’s what you’re referring to.
[05:51]  * nicomachus stops typing the long command he was entering...
[05:51] <nicomachus> well then.
[05:52] <Gallomimia> sigh... i just want grub to work. that's all
[05:55] <foxlet> ericcaron: Devices section?
[05:56] <nicomachus> foxlet: system settings --> Mouse & Touchpad
[05:56] <ericcaron> what nico said :)
[05:57] <ericcaron> sometimes they simply disable them. and the easiest solution is well easy
[05:57] <foxlet> ericcaron: Nothing notable there.
[05:57] <nicomachus> everytime someone says "nico" I start singing The Velvet Underground...
[05:58] <nicomachus> foxlet: there's an interesting setup script on this forum page that may be helpful in some way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187
[06:00] <nicomachus> foxlet: just looking at the commands the guy did from within his ubuntu VM.
[06:00] <foxlet> nicomachus: It seems to be for the C720.
[06:00] <nicomachus> hmm... so it is.
[06:01] <ericcaron> lets cross fingers and hope it works for ya ;)
[06:02] <nicomachus> I wouldn't
[06:02] <ericcaron> no fingers nico? lol
[06:02] <nicomachus> since it mostly seems to be dealing with the i2c modules issue.
[06:03] <nicomachus> foxlet: after removing the blacklist did you reset the proper loading order?
[06:04] <nicomachus> foxlet: echo "softdep chromeos_laptop pre: i2c-core i2c-i801 cyapa" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/chromeos_laptop.conf
[06:04] <foxlet> nicomachus: The order in /etc/modules?
[06:05] <han-solo_> hello
[06:05] <nicomachus> foxlet: not sure, I'm looking at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrubuntu/comments/34d6qs/help_acer_c710_touchpad_support_with_ubuntu_1504/cqtr1xd
[06:08] <nicomachus> han-solo_: hello
[06:11] <ericcaron> curious nico. you ever play around with kali os? :P
[06:11] <nicomachus> nope. just ubuntu. and only started around ~12.04
[06:12] <ericcaron> ah  started kubuntu on my macbook pro first gen intel ... middle of last month.
[06:14] <ericcaron> Long road of learning via trial and error ahead of me i am sure of it . :)
[06:15] <nicomachus> only way to learn.
[06:15] <foxlet> nicomachus: Nope, no changes.
[06:16] <ericcaron> i sure did learn. had the (inramfs) error :P showed that error who's boss though ;)
[06:16] <Guest24902> hello
[06:16] <Guest24902> !help
[06:16] <nicomachus> foxlet: ok. do you have an external mouse lying around?
[06:16] <nicomachus> Guest24902: what's your issue?
[06:16] <foxlet> I tried out Ubuntu back when 7.10 was a thing.
[06:17] <foxlet> nicomachus: Yes, I’ve been using a Bluetooth mouse during the whole convo.
[06:18] <foxlet> Connected it via terminal commands.
[06:18] <nicomachus> foxlet: ok. what's the output of ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices '?
[06:21] <beylul-gunay> olner
[06:21] <foxlet> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113278/
[06:23] <nicomachus> foxlet: hmm... doesn't seem to be detecting your touchpad at all. so it's definitely a kernel issue.
[06:23] <han-solo_> hey, why can't we assign shortcuts to <escape> key?
[06:23] <nicomachus> what are the contents of your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[06:23] <nicomachus> foxlet: ^
[06:24] <ericcaron> han-solo_: because it's your only way to escape ;)
[06:24] <han-solo_> that's what i wanted to do ;)
[06:25] <han-solo_> instead of <alt+f4>
[06:25] <nixon1> I have Ubuntu 15.10 x86_64 running on my system. I'm facing a very strange problem.
[06:25] <ericcaron> try a combo it should work no? like alt+esc?
[06:25] <ericcaron> whats the problem nixon1
[06:25] <han-solo_> i was thinking, just <esc> :)
[06:25] <foxlet> ericcaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113287
[06:25] <nicomachus> !ask | nixon1
[06:25] <nixon1> When I boot into system , it doesn't shows the login screen. Instead it presents a grey screen.
[06:26] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | nixon1
[06:26] <nicomachus> nixon1 try this ^
[06:26] <ericcaron> thanx fox having a gander at it :)
[06:26] <nixon1> the only work around I've got is to go to tty1, then sudo pm-suspend then wake up and killall Xorg presents the login screen
[06:27] <nicomachus> LOL, foxlet don't kill me.. but try putting a space after the # on your ic2 there.
[06:27] <nixon1> I have intel+amd graphics cards
[06:27] <nicomachus> foxlet: or just erase that completely.
[06:28] <foxlet> nicomachus: I removed the line at one point, which didn’t change anything.
[06:28] <Sniper41m> how can i see the running processes? or like an alternative to task manager in windows. what is the command ?
[06:28] <nicomachus> Sniper41m: htop
[06:28] <nixon1> adding nomodeset to boot parameter doesn't help
[06:28] <nixon1> @nicomachus
[06:29] <han-solo_> sniper: ps aux
[06:29] <han-solo_> will do, i guess
[06:30] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install?
[06:31] <ericcaron> you able to take a snap and pop it on here for us to have a look at what you are seeing nixon1?
[06:31] <nicomachus> ericcaron: if he can't login he can't screenshot. :)
[06:31] <han-solo_> except with an external camera ;)
[06:32] <nicomachus> pfffft. like everyone carries one of those in their pocket or something...
[06:32] <ericcaron> cellphone ;) nico :P
[06:32] <han-solo_> cellphones.....
[06:32]  * foxlet takes out his DSLR
[06:32] <han-solo_> right
[06:32] <han-solo_> :)
[06:32] <ericcaron> :)
[06:33] <ericcaron> it seems to be same error i fixed quite easily but i want to be sure nico1
[06:33] <nicomachus> foxlet: well, I'm a bit out of ideas on that touchpad... you may try submitting a bug report and see if anything comes up. see this page for more info on what they'll request for that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[06:33] <han-solo_> i wish there was an ubuntu distro named 'yodabuntu' :)
[06:33] <ericcaron> nixon1*
[06:34] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install or upgrade or existing or what?
[06:34] <foxlet> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113316/
[06:34] <ericcaron> so grey screen. no error messages? can't type nothing in nixon1?
[06:34] <foxlet> dmesg seems to show some warnings.
[06:35] <ericcaron> you do any "fixes" of any kind like fsck before fox?
[06:36] <ericcaron> seems virtually all issues i've ever ran into seem to get fixed with it.... (not all but the few ive run into)
[06:37] <nicomachus> foxlet: it really, really seems to point to that i2c issue.
[06:37] <han-solo_> i need a raspberry pie 2 B
[06:37] <nicomachus> foxlet: just for sanity sake, and to double check, let's run these commands again.
[06:38] <nicomachus> foxlet: sed 's/blacklist i2c_i801/#blacklist i2c_i801/g' -i /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[06:38] <nicomachus> then: echo "softdep chromeos_laptop pre: i2c-core i2c-i801 cyapa" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/chromeos_laptop.conf
[06:38] <foxlet> nicomachus: Checking with nano, the contents seem to be there.
[06:39] <nicomachus> foxlet: just run the commands anyway. :)
[06:39] <nixon1> nicomachus: any help?
[06:39] <han-solo_> i had some problems with the <chromium> browser. It just restarts my system whenever i close the browser
[06:39] <han-solo_> weird!
[06:39] <foxlet> nicomachus: The sed regex replacement and the write with echo?
[06:39] <nicomachus> nixon1: I asked you a couple questions that I'm waiting for an answer on
[06:40] <nicomachus> foxlet: yes.
[06:40] <nixon1> I got disconnected. can you please repost the questions? nicomachus
[06:41] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install, an upgrade, or what?
[06:41] <nixon1> upgrade
[06:41] <foxlet> nicomachus: OK, they were executed.
[06:42] <nicomachus> foxlet: now reboot and see if there's any change.
[06:42] <nixon1> nicomachu: it is an upgrade. No fresh install after 12.04
[06:42] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. and you're on 14.04 now?
[06:43] <nixon1> nicomachus: on 15.10
[06:43] <han-solo_> you use a graphics card?
[06:43] <foxlet> nicomachus: Nope, no change.
[06:43] <nicomachus> foxlet: it's gotta be some sort of bug then.
[06:43] <nixon1> han-solo: yes. intel + amd hd 8670m
[06:43] <han-solo_> remove the graphics card and see
[06:44] <nicomachus> nixon1: can you get to TTY?
[06:44] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[06:45] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok, go to a TTY and login, then ' lspci | grep VGA ', let's see what driver you're working with.
[06:45] <nixon1> okay
[06:45] <nixon1> nicomachus: right now I'm logged in to gui
[06:46] <nicomachus> oh? how'd you get that working?
[06:46] <han-solo_> :/
[06:47] <nixon1> nicomachus: went to tty, then 'sudo pm-suspend', then after waking up, 'sudo killall Xorg'
[06:47] <nicomachus> huh. ok then. well instead of lspci do ' sudo lshw -C video ' and paste the output to a pastebin, then link here.
[06:47] <nixon1> nicomachu: this get's the login screen, and I can log. But needs to be repeated every time I boot
[06:48] <nicomachus> yea it's probably a video driver issue. let's see what you're working with with that lshw command.
[06:49] <nixon1> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113373/
[06:50] <nixon1> han-solo_:it's a laptop
[06:50] <nicomachus> nixon1: didn't you say AMD HD?
[06:50] <han-solo_> ow. sorry
[06:51] <nixon1> nicomachus: result of lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113377/
[06:51] <ericcaron> zero latency nice :P
[06:52] <nicomachus> nixon1: do you know if you were using the radeon driver or the fglrx before this upgrade?
[06:52] <nixon1> I was
[06:52] <nicomachus> those are two different options... which was it
[06:53] <nixon1> nicomachus: radeon
[06:54] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. form a terminal, ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon '
[06:54] <nicomachus> from a terminal **
[06:54] <nicomachus> not form
[06:55] <nixon1> nicomachus: xserver-xorg-video-radeon is already the newest version
[06:55] <nicomachus> ok, let's try switching it to the fglrx then.
[06:56] <jpx21> quit
[06:56]  * jpx21 quit
[06:56] <nicomachus> easiest way is to do it with the "additional drivers" menu in your software sources
[06:56] <JeDa> jpx21: /quit
[06:56] <nicomachus> jpx21: /quit
[06:56] <jpx21> tx ;)
[06:56] <JeDa> nicomachus: ninja'd
[06:57] <nicomachus> jerk!
[06:57] <nicomachus> :P
[06:57] <jpx21> you guys use irssi?
[06:57] <nicomachus> yes, but that's not on-topic here.
[06:57] <nixon1> nicomachus: I tried . Didn't work
[06:57] <nicomachus> nixon1: you switched the driver but still get the grey screen?
[06:58] <ericcaron> have you tried
[06:58] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes. I've already tried
[06:58] <ericcaron> fsck /dev/sda1  ( or whatever number its installed on? )
[06:58] <jpx21> but i just installed irssi on my ubuntu server and I want to use tmux to have it constantly logged in
[06:59] <ericcaron> it usually can fix most errors.
[06:59] <nicomachus> ericcaron: what
[06:59] <jpx21> and when i installed irssi it said to head over to #ubuntu
[06:59] <nixon1> nicomachus: weird thing is that i get the login screen after pm-suspend and killall Xorg from tty
[07:00] <nicomachus> yea... killing xorg made me think it was the xorg radeon driver giving issues.
[07:00] <nixon1> nicomachus: killall Xorg without pm-suspend doesn't work
[07:00] <ericcaron> fsck /dev/sda1   (used this to fix a boot two seperate boot errors.
[07:00] <nixon1> gives the same issue
[07:00] <nicomachus> nixon1: pm-suspend is power management, right? odd
[07:01] <nixon1> nicomachus: yeah
[07:01] <ericcaron> bug in the power management. did linux get a fix for the  delete  button login bypass hack?
[07:02] <ericcaron> hitting the delete button exactly 28 times bypasses all the login stuff and gets you straight to the desktop.
[07:03] <nicomachus> nixon1: the RadeonDriver page on the ubuntu wiki has a grub parameter for DPM. perhaps try adding ' radeon.dpm=1 ' after quiet splash on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line?
[07:04] <nixon1> nicomachus: let me try
[07:05] <han-solo2> i hate this lag
[07:05] <nixon1> too much lag
[07:06]  * nicomachus has no lag...
[07:06] <han-solo_> i have like 5Kbps max speed
[07:06] <han-solo_> how pathetic
[07:07] <ericcaron> no lag in here at all (only thing that doesnt have lag lol)
[07:07]  * han-solo_ is using a dial-up conn.
[07:07] <ericcaron> i hope nixon1 has issue fixed :)
[07:07] <nicomachus> han-solo_: that's unfortunate. :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14113424/
[07:08] <han-solo_> what's that?
[07:08] <nicomachus> a speedtest from my machine.
[07:08] <han-solo_> you're not gonna make me jealous, are you? :)
[07:08] <nicomachus> just a bit.
[07:09] <han-solo_> loadin.....
[07:09] <foxlet> I guess no one has an idea on the trackpad, then.
[07:09] <nicomachus> foxlet: I'm all out, man. I'm sorry.
[07:09] <han-solo_> shit
[07:09] <nicomachus> and the real experts are all sleeping.
[07:09] <han-solo_> asfdjafh sdkjsfkljf
[07:09] <nicomachus> language, han-solo_
[07:09] <han-solo_> i'm gonna kill myself
[07:10] <nicomachus> :) let's keep the off-topic chat to a minimum.
[07:10] <han-solo_> yeah
[07:10] <foxlet> nicomachus: I find it difficult to file a bug since I don’t even know the manufacturer of the trackpad.
[07:10] <nicomachus> foxlet: Asus..
[07:10] <foxlet> I don’t think the i2c bus provides it either.
[07:10] <foxlet> nicomachus: The laptop is made by Acer...
[07:11] <han-solo_> nico:64 bytes from telehack.com (64.13.139.230): icmp_seq=326 ttl=53 time=2979 ms
[07:11] <nicomachus> right. acer.
[07:11] <nicomachus> han-solo_: that's a ping, not a speedtest.
[07:11] <foxlet> nicomachus: I’m not sure if the trackpad model would be “Acer” though.
[07:11] <han-solo_> dude, see the time
[07:11] <ericcaron> maybe ask asus about it? who knows...... i don't think chromeos is widely supported just yet   but starting to fox
[07:11] <nicomachus> foxlet: just provide as much info as possible.
[07:12] <rww> acer is not asus.
[07:12] <spirit__> i
[07:12] <spirit__> hi
[07:12] <foxlet> ericcaron: It’s Acer.
[07:12] <nicomachus> spirit__: hi
[07:12] <spirit__> wow it works
[07:12] <spirit__> :)
[07:12] <spirit__> lol
[07:12] <foxlet> ericcaron: Also, chromeos was completely wiped from this machine, so I don’t see how it would be relevant.
[07:12] <Gallomimia> well, i managed to get my grub trying to mount my raid. it failed for some reason... and it was installed on the wrong device :P
[07:12] <nicomachus> spirit__: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:12] <ericcaron> try troubleshooting with acer.  for the hardware side.
[07:13] <spirit__> no
[07:13] <ericcaron> it may be they already have something you can use to fix the issue :)
[07:13] <Gallomimia> how frightening. what i lucked into to fix it i'll never know
[07:13] <nixon1> nicomachus:on boot I get radeon 0000:03:00.0: VCE init error
[07:13] <spirit__> `Cam
[07:13] <nicomachus> spirit__: ok, this channel is strictly for ubuntu support. you can chat on #ubuntu-offtopic or ask about IRC on #freenode
[07:13] <nixon1> nicomachus: and the same issue persists
[07:14] <spirit__> ok
[07:14] <foxlet> ericcaron: Windows and 12.04 work with the trackpad, so I don’t believe it would be hardware.
[07:14] <foxlet> dmidecode also reports the trackpad to be enabled in 14.04, so it’s quite odd.
[07:15] <nixon1> nicomachus: also it takes around 1 minute to get to TTY
[07:15] <nicomachus> foxlet: it's a kernel bug.
[07:15] <ericcaron> you do any other repairs like fsck ?
[07:15] <nicomachus> nixon1: I'm getting out of my depth, but you said you tried the proprietary drivers?
[07:15] <foxlet> ericcaron: You got an example?
[07:15] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[07:16] <nicomachus> nixon1: both of them? fglrx and fglrx-updates?
[07:16] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[07:16] <nicomachus> nixon1: what's the laptop model? to check for bugs or similar issues
[07:16] <ericcaron> a simple one would be (from terminal) fsck /dev/sda1 hit enter and hit yes to all if there is anything to be fixed
[07:17] <nixon1> nicomachus: dell inspiring 3537
[07:17] <nicomachus> ericcaron: fsck checks the filesystem, not the kernel or drivers. it won't work here.
[07:18] <nixon1> ericcaron: I have done it for other issues
[07:18] <nixon1> ericcaron: it doesn't fix this issue
[07:18] <ericcaron> ah ok. well keep trying until you get something don't give up.
 which ps command would show me most cup and momeory usage process, for eg: in descending order
[07:19] <nicomachus> nixon1: what kernel are you running? (uname -a)
[07:20] <nicomachus> !htop | Sniper41m
[07:20] <han-solo_> sniper: did you try google
[07:20] <nicomachus> ugh. Sniper41m: htop will show that, plus running processes.
[07:21] <han-solo_> anyway, ps aux | sort -nr -k 4 | head -5
[07:21] <Sniper41m> htop didn't work, it asked to install doing sudo apt-get,  but top worked
[07:21] <nicomachus> Sniper41m: yes, you'll have to install htop.
[07:21] <han-solo_> that'll do
[07:21] <Sniper41m> thanks guys
[07:21] <phoenix911> anyone having solution for this eclipse error ?
[07:21] <phoenix911> org.eclipse.m2e.logback.configuration: The org.eclipse.m2e.logback.configuration bundle was activated before the state location was initialized.  Will retry after the state location is initialized.
[07:22] <nixon1> nicomachus: 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP
[07:22] <nicomachus> nixon1: that's just a bit behind. run a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:22] <nixon1> nicomachus: okay
[07:23] <JohnConstantine> hi all, how can I share my Ethernet over wireless? so that I can use my laptop as hotspot for other devices
[07:23] <nixon1> nicomachus: it will take some time. I'm on a slower net
[07:23] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. beyond that, I'm out of ideas.
[07:24] <nicomachus> and I've gotta go to bed, gf is yelling for me.
[07:24] <nicomachus> night all.
[07:24] <han-solo_> sniper: and gnome-system-monitor, will give you sufficient info, i guess
[07:24] <ericcaron> bet you it will fix the issue :P *crossing fingers for nixon1*
[07:24] <nixon1> nicomachus: thanks man
[07:24] <han-solo_> later nico
[07:24] <awshelp> should i have a firewall running on ubuntu znc server?
[07:25] <awshelp> or is aws instance security groups enough?
[07:25] <JohnConstantine> hi all, how can I share my Ethernet over wireless? so that I can use my laptop as hotspot for other devices
[07:26] <Ben64> JohnConstantine: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[07:29] <ericcaron> anyone know of a command to get my first gen intel macbook pro fans to stay on max all the time? ( they kick in but not long , i don't care about the noise  , would like them on all the time)
[07:32] <ericcaron> eh i'll have to come back later  , just realised the time >.<
[07:32] <awshelp> hey guys, or is aws instance security groups enough? or is aws instance security groups enough?
[07:32] <c|oneman> on OSX it's SMCfancontrol
[07:32] <awshelp> hey guys, should i have a firewall running on ubuntu znc server?or is aws instance security groups enough? **
[07:32] <awshelp> ^^
[07:33] <Ben64> awshelp: patience
[07:33] <awshelp> ok sorry
[07:34] <c272> firewalls do very little for security
[07:34] <c|oneman> when he comes back later this is what he wanted http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/
[07:35] <awshelp> im trying to protect myself
[07:35] <awshelp> any tips?
[07:35] <c272> now if you want to have some good security just focus on who can access what, and when
[07:35] <c272> and then how
[07:35] <c272> also log everything
[07:35] <c272> and i mean logs of logs
[07:36] <c272> also segregate everything, and backup stuff both online and offline
[07:36] <han-solo_> we should have something like,"!add http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/" and it will add to the log and return a number
[07:36] <awshelp> what i am trying to do is prevent the znc port from getting ddosed mainly
[07:36] <Ben64> you can't
[07:36] <han-solo_> so we can access it like '!show <number>'
[07:36] <c|oneman> if your AWS instance just runs ZNC and nothing else, you don't have much to protect except your IRC logs
[07:36] <c272> awshelp: then the best soultion is something upstream, like another spam server
[07:36] <awshelp> i cant put a limit on the maximum number of incoming connections?
[07:37] <c272> awshelp: or then get something like a cloud service to port through
[07:37] <c272> so the service takes the brunt of the attack
[07:37] <c272> and then your servers are okay
[07:38] <awshelp> hmm
[07:38] <awshelp> sounds costly
[07:38] <c272> it can be
[07:38] <awshelp> trying to do this with minimum cost
[07:38] <c272> but what you need depends on the threat model
[07:38] <c272> awshelp: so what's your threat model?
[07:38] <Ben64> then don't worry about it, you can't stop a ddos
[07:38] <c272> ^
[07:38] <awshelp> i am a noob
[07:39] <awshelp> lol
[07:39] <awshelp> dont knwo what a threat model is
[07:39] <awshelp> i cant even type^
[07:39] <c272> awshelp: you model your possible threats, and what is an acceptable level of security to you...
[07:40] <awshelp> hmm ok
[07:40] <c272> so who are you trying to stop?
[07:40] <han-solo_> people do ddos these days? :/
[07:40] <c272> so skids
[07:40] <awshelp> i got ddossed last week
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[07:41] <c272> i'd suggest to pay for a cloud hosting service, and let them deal with the ddos
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> guys keep it ubuntu related issues please
[07:41] <c272> lotuspsychje: this is an ubuntu server issue
[07:41] <awshelp> ^^
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> c272: #ubuntu-server to the rescue
[07:42] <c272> awshelp: my suggestion is to ask the guys in ##security they'll be better for your problems
[07:42] <awshelp> ok thanks for help guys
[07:42] <awshelp> cya
[07:42] <awshelp> <333
[07:42] <han-solo_> huh
[07:42] <han-solo_> :)
[07:50] <donatello673> Hello. I've been trying to get Linux running on my PC. My previous attempt failed for some reason, so I'm trying again with Ubuntu.. I have a simple question:
[07:50] <donatello673> To prepare a USB for my PC with Ubuntu, I need to run this command: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso
[07:50] <foxlet> donatello673: Does your PC have UEFI support?
[07:51] <donatello673> my question is very noobish.. I just need to know how to start the path to my file.
[07:51] <donatello673> foxlet: I don't know.
[07:51] <donatello673> it's fairly new
[07:51] <donatello673> i've installed something on it via USB before
[07:51] <c|oneman> I use actual DVDs because I don't like to learn new things.
[07:51] <donatello673> got no DVDs or DVD player
[07:51] <donatello673> I'd have to burn a DVD at an internet cafe
[07:51] <foxlet> donatello673: It may be better to create a Fat32 filesystem on your USB flash drive, then copy the contents of the ISO.
[07:52] <donatello673> foxlet: just copy ? :O
[07:52] <donatello673> that could work?
[07:52] <donatello673> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx should mention that..
[07:52] <han-solo_> with a loader
[07:52] <foxlet> donatello673: If it’s an UEFI PC, there shouldn’t be a need to do anything else.
[07:52] <donatello673> foxlet: I will bloody try
[07:53] <donatello673> han-solo_: what do you mean with a loader?
[07:53] <foxlet> donatello673: Note that it means to copy the contents from the mounted ISO in OS X, not just copying the .iso as a single file.
[07:54] <donatello673> Yeah. If I extract the ISO I'll get the contents.
[07:55] <donatello673> do I want GUID or MBR?
[07:56] <Ben64> donatello673: why can't you follow the steps you posted
[07:57] <foxlet> donatello673: UEFI installations usually uses a GUID partition style.
[07:57] <donatello673> Ben64: simplyl because I don't know how to start the path to the .iso
[07:57] <donatello673> foxlet: do I copy the contents of the folder or the folder with the contents in it?
[07:58] <Ben64> did you see the tip at the top of the instructions
[07:59] <donatello673> Ben64: I didn't, but I tried that and it didn't work. I must've done it work despite the dragging.
[08:00] <foxlet> donatello673: It would be the contents of the folder.
[08:05] <donatello673> I tried installing trisquel and it just hands with a blinking underscore. Putting Ubuntu on the USB with an app to write the image didn't make a difference to the PC and it still boots up thinking trisquel is there
[08:05] <donatello673> so i might just get a DVD I guess
[08:07] <Bluerate> hello everyone, I deleted complete downloaded file of utorrent and when I try to open gui, I am getting this error
[08:07] <Bluerate> File not found during integrity check: ./resume.dat.old
[08:07] <Bluerate> any advice
[08:09] <c|oneman> Bluerate: utorrent is not an ubuntu program
[08:10] <Bluerate> c|oneman you mean I don't have to ask it here
[08:10] <c|oneman> I mean utorrent is a windows program
[08:10] <c|oneman> how do you expect it to run on linux?
[08:11] <auronandace> !appdb | Bluerate
[08:11] <donatello673> Ben64: i can't imagine what I'm doing wrong
[08:12] <c|oneman> donatello673: that's what I usually do after spending 10minutes trying to make a USB.
[08:12] <c|oneman> I give it a fair chance, then I move on with my life
[08:13] <Bluerate> c|oneman, auronandace & ubottu: but I am using it on ubuntu 14.04
[08:13] <c|oneman> switch to a native application like deluge or transmission
[08:14] <bazhang> there is a linux version of it
[08:14] <fload> anyone ever been in EFI boot hell? Ive been trying to install linux mint on this damn intel baytrail mini pc, and I finally got it installed but now i cant boot into it only can boot into the liveusb, Ive tried boot-repair and a few different grub commands but it always boots me into EFI shell
[08:14] <rww> !mintsupport
[08:16] <fload> it doesnt matter if its mint or vanilla ubuntu it still wont boot
[08:16] <fload> this is more of a bios problem/ efi
[08:17] <bazhang> fload, try ##linux then or the mintsupport channel
[08:17] <rww> which Mint will happily help you with.
[08:17] <fload> ok thanks
[08:18] <bazhang> Bluerate, thats the linux version, correct?
[08:18] <Bluerate> bazhang: yes
[08:19] <bazhang> Bluerate, its not part of the ubuntu repos, but you could see if utorrent has an irc channel here on freenode, and/or try their support forums on the web
[08:20] <bazhang> Bluerate, you can use alis to find the utorrent channel if any here; going for transmission, or any of the very well supported ubuntu ones is an option as well
[08:20] <bazhang>  /msg alist list utorrent  <---- bluerate for the first alis search
[08:21] <Bluerate> bazhang: thank you
[08:22] <bazhang> Bluerate, on the plus side for transmission is no ads ever, and no paid version, supports magnet links very well
[08:22] <bazhang> !info transmission
[08:24] <Bluerate> bazhang I don't get ur last comment
[08:25] <bazhang> Bluerate, an excellent native no outside repo torrent client is transmission
[08:25] <auronandace> Bluerate: is there a feature you need from utorrent that transmission doesn't have? why not use transmission?
[08:26] <bazhang> Bluerate, modern torrent clients have something called magnet links
[08:26] <Bluerate> auronandance how to use transmission
[08:26] <bazhang> Bluerate, transmission has good support for those
[08:27] <bazhang> sudo apt install transmission   Bluerate
[08:27] <tlt> transmission has been in ubuntu for a while
[08:28] <tlt> he should have it already.
[08:28] <bazhang> default?
[08:28] <auronandace> yes, default
[08:28] <Bluerate> bazhang I installed but how to benefit from it with that issue
[08:28] <bazhang> thought that was deluge
[08:28] <tlt> nah it's actually transmission, bazhang.
[08:28] <tlt> been there a while too
[08:29] <bazhang> Bluerate, no way, thats where you ask the utorrent forums, not here
[08:29] <Bluerate> bazhang okay I understand
[08:30] <red_racer12> what's the easiest way to create a usb install with persistance? ubootnetin never finishes for me, booting into a live environment and running start up disk creator fails
[08:30] <red_racer12> i'm kinda perplexed
[08:31] <tlt> install to the usb device just as if you would install to a harddrive
[08:31] <bazhang> red_racer12, why from a live environment
[08:31] <tlt> then you have a full system on that usb device.
[08:31] <red_racer12> okay tlt i will install to the usb as if i were to install to a hard drive right now.
[08:31] <tlt> good luck!
[08:31] <red_racer12> bazhang: well, i will start from the beginning, i have a freenas system with dying hard drives, i want to test all the drives using ubuntu disk utiilty.
[08:32] <red_racer12> so i have a usb stick with ubuntu, i thought hey let me use that. unfortunately it isnt that reliable for 8tb drives
[08:32] <bazhang> ok
[08:32] <tlt> 8tb usb stick?
[08:32] <bazhang> no
[08:32] <red_racer12> i think testing from a live environment might be the problem, so i wanna test from an installed environment
[08:33] <red_racer12> 8tb x 4 seagate drives in gen8 hp proliant microserver
[08:45] <dk00> U guys recommend any of these https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[08:47] <cvetko> hello everyone, how are you, I could find how configure unbound dns with dnscrypt, i think that can improve my privacy  to encrypt my dns request .... even if the dns is in localhost
[08:47] <slidinghorn>  dk00 there are plenty of good ideas in the article, what in particular do you need help with?
[08:49]  * slidinghorn is about to go to sleep, but he'll try to help in the next couple minutes if he can
[08:50] <dk00> Sorry walked away
[08:50] <dk00> Nothing really
[08:50] <dk00> Just looking for good idea
[08:50] <dk00> S
[08:50] <dk00> I am noobish mostly
[08:50] <dk00> Thanks slidinghorn
[08:53] <slidinghorn> dk00: try not to use the enter button as punctuation..makes things hard to follow for others.  In terms of a lot of that article's specifics, I'm not really that familiar, but I'd strongly recommend googling several of those topics, such as configuring your firewall (though it mentions ufw for a server, which is...unconventional..)
[08:54] <slidinghorn> d00: My point is that the article brings several good points to the table, but doesn't seem to take very practical approaches to them.
[08:55] <slidinghorn> dk00 ^^
[08:56]  * slidinghorn is off to bed. Good night folks - good luck!
[08:57] <dk00> Thanks slidinghorn nn
[08:57] <dk00> What is used in place of ufw for server?
[08:58] <calon361> How do I run and debug a MIPS executable?
[08:58] <morrwin> Hey guys, can any of you tell me a good debian distro that can handle 4k screen scaling, I need it to be 1.5x. So far only Ubuntu/Unity has the option and I think the newest Kubuntu KDE. Gnome and stuff only do 1 or 2x.
[08:59] <bazhang> morrwin, ##linux for general linux stuff
[08:59] <mrsam_> hi all...which port i good for SSH?
[08:59] <bazhang> dk00, did you mean iptables
[08:59] <mrsam_> hi all...which port is good for SSH?
[08:59] <dk00> Thanks bazhang
[08:59] <bazhang> !ssh | mrsam_
[09:00] <bazhang> mrsam_, read the Full links
[09:00] <mrsam_> tnx :)
[09:00] <bazhang> calon361, isnt that a ##programming issue ?
[09:01] <john> greetings
[09:01] <Guest58323> greetings
[09:03] <ducasse> dk00: You can use something like ferm, it uses iptables but is easier to write and maintain rules for than to write them directly for iptables.
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> !find ferm
[09:05] <Guest58323> is there a music player for ubuntu that has a proper genre list like itunes does
[09:06] <bazhang> many
[09:06] <bazhang> not sure what you mean by 'propre
[09:06] <Guest58323> proper
[09:07] <bazhang> most all of them
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest58323  audacious is easy to use
[09:07] <bazhang> try rhythmbox for that iTunes-y feel
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> or exaile
[09:08] <baizon> Guest58323: I'm using clementine
[09:09] <dk00> Thanks ducasse
[09:11] <Guest58323> plus is there away to play blue ray movies on linux
[09:11] <ducasse> dk00: There are some tutorials for it out there, just do a search. It's quite easy to get to grips with compared to writing iptables rules directly.
[09:12] <bazhang> mplayer has supported for a long while now Guest58323
[09:12] <Guest58323> thanks
[09:12] <bazhang> !info smplayer
[09:13] <bazhang> that ^
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> Guest58323  you're struggling wi(th multimedia... try and ask in #ubuntustudio
[09:15] <dk00> So ufw is not as good as iptables then?
[09:15] <Ben64> ufw is a front end to iptables
[09:15] <Guest58323> i was just wondering if there was a way of playing blue ray movies on linux as im doing a home theatre pc :)
[09:15] <ducasse> dk00: it's similar to ferm, I like ferm better, though.
[09:17] <dk00> ducasse how come?
[09:17] <dk00> And also why is ufw "unconventional" for Ubuntu server tho?
[09:17] <Ben64> it isn't
[09:18] <ducasse> dk00: I didn't say it was "unconventional" :) ferm is easier imo if you have a lot of rules - I just prefer the syntax. YMMV.
[09:19] <dk00> Hmm ok going to read up on these, thanks ducasse Ben64 bazhang and slidinghorn :-d
[09:20] <dk00> And anyone else I missed :)
[09:22] <dk00> Can ssh port be hacked if using ppk key to login?
[09:23] <dk00> Pem*
[09:24] <Haugli92> Everything can be hacked.
[09:25] <Haugli92> But using a private key instead of a password would make it mrore secure :)
[09:25] <Haugli92> more*
[09:26] <dk00> Thanks
[09:26] <dk00> Also how to change the default port?
[09:27] <ducasse> dk00: pass -p port# in /etc/default/ssh
[09:27] <dk00> Thanks ducasse
[09:35] <aussiemale1> exaile does have a better radio player added to it
[09:39] <red_racer12> i have finished installing ubuntu to a usb stick, it seems to be working very nicely, however it's very slow
[09:40] <red_racer12> is there something i should've done to the usb3.0 corsair slider to make it faster?
[09:43] <baizon> red_racer12: usb has 10MB/s speed, thats damn slow
[09:44] <red_racer12> baizon: i see, that makes sense.
[09:45] <baizon> red_racer12: in comparison, a HDD has 100MB/s
[09:45] <red_racer12> does it not make a difference if i'm using usb3.0 controller and usb3.0 stick?
[09:45] <baizon> red_racer12: yes i makes, you get 1.5x faster write speed then usb 2.0
[09:46] <baizon> red_racer12: usb 3.0 gets the most from "reading"
[09:46] <red_racer12> ah i see
[09:47] <red_racer12> that makes sense, it's taking forever to download and update ubuntu, but i am on usb stick install.
[09:49] <awshelp> ey guys what does a /32 after an ipaddress mean?
[09:50] <Blekpug> What is already installed as an address book ?
[09:51] <baizon> awshelp: The /n = netmask with n number of 1's.
[09:51] <Guest16049> .
[09:51] <baizon> awshelp: 255.255.255.255 = 1111111111111111111111111111 or 32 ones = /32
[09:52] <baizon> awshelp: 255.255.255.0 = 1111111111111111111100000000 or 24 ones = /24
[09:52] <Guest16049> .
[09:52] <baizon> awshelp: also more here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Range_blocks
[09:52] <baizon> Guest16049: pls stop it
[09:53] <awshelp>  hmm ok
[09:53] <awshelp> is it like broadening the ip range or something?
[09:53] <revilo> sorry, i'm kinda newbie here
[09:57] <XSpeed_> Hi, can someone answer to these 3 questions please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/708749/openjdk-icedtea-security-settings or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306320 Thank you.
[10:00] <kd5loh> sup?
[10:06] <blackflow> Hello folks. How do I submit a bug report to Launchpad? There is no "Submut Bug Report" link.
[10:06] <blackflow> *Submit
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !bug | black
[10:07] <blackflow> cfhowlett: thanks. which package do I Specify for encrypted swap not mounting on boot?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> blackflow, which ubuntu number??
[10:07] <blackflow> cfhowlett: 15.10
[10:08] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ecryptfs?  or whatever you encrypted with
[10:08] <blackflow> LUKS
[10:08] <blackflow> the installer encrypted it.
[10:08] <blackflow> and the problem is not in cryptsetup.
[10:09] <blackflow> something destroys the encrypted swap partition so on reboot, it's not a luks device anymore.
[10:09] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ow.
[10:09] <greenbigfrog> hello
[10:09] <blackflow> and that happens either on shutdown or on reboot, I don't know, I can't find a relevant entry in the logs, only that upon reboot, my swap partition is no longer a luks device.
[10:10] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ask again in channel, I have not seen this issue and not comfortable guessing
[10:10] <blackflow> I'll file a bug report. Just need to know how :) ubuntu-bug is asking me for pid if Choose OTHER, and none of hte given options applies.
[10:10] <blackflow> so is there a way to submit to launchpad directly?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> blackflow, not that I know of.
[10:11] <blackflow> cfhowlett: so it was removed? I filed a bunch of bugs that way, last several weeks ago.
[10:12] <cfhowlett> blackflow, I have no idea.  I have only ever filed bugs via the bug utility in ubuntu
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> I installed a kernel I built some time ago but now initframs throws an error, if I run upgrade or isntall etc since it thinks the package is broken... df -h: http://hastebin.com/ifuzutewop.erlang_repl upgrade: http://hastebin.com/ayigaqewot.vbs
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> On the web I only find posts of people who do not have enough space on their /boot... the 4.4 kernel is the only one I got installed ATM.
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> Anyone got an idea?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, clean out old kernels
[10:13] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers             too
[10:13] <blackflow> cfhowlett: where do I complain about this? This is an outrage. What if the bug is such that I cannot execute commands from command line?
[10:14] <greenbigfrog> cfhowlett: "the 4.4 kernel is the only one I got installed ATM." and I cleaned already
[10:14] <cfhowlett> blackflow, let me look ...
[10:14] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers             too
[10:14] <greenbigfrog> zero answer
[10:14] <glebihan_> blackflow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[10:15] <cfhowlett> blackflow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:15] <blackflow> glebihan_: ah, much obliged. Is that linked anywhere publicly?
[10:15] <glebihan_> blackflow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net
[10:15] <greenbigfrog> ll /boot/: http://hastebin.com/esuyomodex.hs
[10:15] <blackflow> glebihan_: thanks.
[10:16] <glebihan_> blackflow, you're welcome
[10:18] <pupanos> лггищгнищгнищгищгнищ
[10:37] <Exagone313> Hi, I have a dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu Server (14.04 I think, not sure). I tried to acess to ext4 partition with ext2fsd on Windows and now I can't boot on Ubuntu, I see "error: no such partition" then a command prompt "grub rescue". I tried ls, and it doe snot see partitions in (hd1) which is Linux I suppose. What do I do? Thanks for your help.
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, get your ubuntu USB, boot it and examine your partitions.
[10:38] <Exagone313> i don't have any usb or cd
[10:38] <Exagone313> right now
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, the wise ubuntu user ALWAYS has a USB -- or 3.  time to make one.
[10:39] <Exagone313> i don't have
[10:39] <Exagone313> i forgot to take it
[10:40] <Exagone313> there is no way to work with the command prompt?
[10:40] <Exagone313> I can still access the files with ext2fsd on windows so the partition is not really broken
[10:46] <Exagone313> no, now I can't access the files, but nothing is lost
[10:50] <Walex2> Exagone313: that's not a happy situation, because that means that somehow MS-Windows has deleted or recreated partitions.
[10:50] <Exagone313> ok I see
[10:50] <Exagone313> it was almost a fresh install
[10:50] <Walex2> Exagone313: unless your Ubuntu filetrees were inside LVM, and you used 'ext2fsd' directly on top
[10:51] <Exagone313> now ext2fsd sees a ext3 partition instead of ext4 after a reboot, and without space available
[10:51] <Exagone313> and it can't mount it
[10:51] <Walex2> Exagone313: ext2fsd cannot be used on 'ext4' partitions
[10:51] <Exagone313> i think this program caused the problem, won't try it again
[10:52] <Walex2> Exagone313: 'ext4' filetrees internally are quite different from 'ext2' and 'ext3' ones except some parts that might make 'ext2fsd' guess it is 'ext3'
[10:53] <Exagone313> but before, it was psosible to access the files, or just the tree I didn't try the files
[10:53] <Walex2> Exagone313: ahhh thiough the 'ext2fsd' site says recent versions support 'ext4'
[10:53] <Exagone313> yes
[10:53] <Walex2> Exagone313: so the question is whether you installed ubuntu on LVM
[10:53] <Exagone313> no
[10:54] <Walex2> Exagone313: then use MS-Windows to download a live-CD distro like GRML and use the tools on that to diagnose your system
[10:54] <Exagone313> i'll reinstall when i'll have my usb key back
[10:54] <Exagone313> i prefer to reinstall, it was a fresh install
[10:55] <Exagone313> thanks anyway
[11:14] <robbenfa> ciao
[11:16] <robbenfa> ciao
[11:17] <shredding> In a Makefile, I have "STAGING_DB_ID = $(shell ssh root@46.101.129.249 "docker ps | grep database" | awk '{print $$1}')"
[11:17] <shredding> How would i need to escape a variable to have that ip as a variable as well?
[11:23] <studentttu> hey can anyone help with intel parallel studio installation stuff here? I installed everything, but im unable to use the
[11:23] <studentttu> ifort compiler
[11:23] <studentttu> for some reason
[11:23] <studentttu> (im a nuub)
[11:24] <han-solo_> hello
[11:27] <studentttu> MAMAAAAAAAAA OOOHOHO, didnt mean to make you cry. If im not back again this time tomorrow. carry on carry onb
[11:28] <shady> hi
[11:35] <Guest6730> hey how can I allow my Geforce 840m Graphics card to run instead of built-in intel integrated graphics?
[11:45] <Alphakarem> Guest6730, have you checked your BIOS for graphics order ?
[11:47] <Guest6730> nope
[11:47] <Guest6730> Alphakarem: should I check?
[11:55] <Walex2> Guest8786: Alphakarem: it is most likely a laptop
[11:57] <c0ld> new to ubuntu.. just tried logging in from hexchat
[11:57] <c0ld> hi guys
[12:04] <dacronmale> thank you
[12:10] <guy_> what is the proper way to install a -dbgsym kernel ? i tried following https://nickjpavey.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/installing-kernel-debug-symbols-in-ubuntu-14-04/ and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages but i do not seem to find a dbgsym for 3.13.0-35-generic
[12:17] <MACscr> [306555.447390] type=1400 audit(1450613775.203:3047): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="lxc-container-default" pid=21394 comm="ps" requested_mask="trace" denied_mask="trace" peer="unconfined"
[12:17] <MACscr> how do if find out what was actualyl blocked?
[12:19] <studentttu> How to install newest gcc compiler? I installed with sudo apt-get install gcc, but gcc --version says 4.8.4 (2013 !!!!!) newest is already 2015, 5.3.0 in website
[12:21] <han-solo1> test!
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !test | han-solo_,
[12:23] <han-solo_> nah
[12:23] <han-solo_> i was just testing my nick
[12:23] <studentttu> han solo died in star wars_
[12:23] <studentttu> ?
[12:24] <yeats> studentttu: in general, you'll want to use the packaged version unless there's a specific need for for something newer, but https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC has instructions if you want
[12:25] <yeats> studentttu: but if you go that route, don't expect it to be easy or fun
[12:25] <studentttu> yeats:  I downloaded the newest one but I dont understand the installing instructions https://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html
[12:25] <studentttu> yea but the ubuntu version is from 2013, its 2 years old, I actually need the december 2015 version
[12:26] <yeats> !compile | studentttu
[12:28] <akik> studentttu: there's a ppa for newer versions of gcc https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[12:30] <akik> studentttu: if you want to compile it yourself, read about "make bootstrap"
[12:31] <LonelyDanbo> how do I learn how to do command lines properly? I grew up with DOS but it's hurting my head trying to figure out why something works sometimes but not others, like with quotes or forslash/backslash/spaces.
[12:32] <k1l_> !terminal | LonelyDanbo
[12:32] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, you weren't born knowing DOS, you learned it.  you learn ubuntu / linux the same way
[12:32] <LonelyDanbo> I've got this janky line to try and run a windows program in Wine. not sure if I should be asking specifically in #winehq since they're less busy and it's not specifically a Wine question.
[12:33] <k1l_> so its a windows terminal command? then try ##windows
[12:33] <narasimha> hi
[12:33] <LonelyDanbo> no it';s not a windows terminal command.
[12:34] <LonelyDanbo> I'm trying to make a shortcut in Xubuntu to run something in Wine.
[12:35] <studentttu> I have ubuntu 14.04 can i upgrade to 15.10 easily somehow? without destroying my files
[12:36] <k1l_> studentttu: not easily since you need to step by step upgrades and 14.10 is already dead.
[12:37] <studentttu> k1l_:  what do you mean with 14.10?
[12:37] <k1l_> studentttu: for upgrades you need to upgrade to every next ubuntu version. 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[12:38] <k1l_> except the LTS to LTS upgrade, which is 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04(still  alpha)
[12:40] <studentttu> k1l_:  so I i just install 15.10 now, I can upgrade to 16.04 easily when it comes out?
[12:40] <studentttu> *if
[12:40] <akik> LonelyDanbo: i think you can specify the windows (wine) command to be in " ... " so you don't need to use backslashes
[12:41] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. or you make the upgrade path i described above with 3 upgrades, but for the first 2 upgrades you need some manual work since 14.10 is already shut down
[12:41] <LonelyDanbo> yeah but sometimes one thing doesn't work with another, like when you want to add -openGL or something. I dunno. I don't understand the rules.
[12:43] <studentttu> k1l_:  so is it possible to upgrade to 14.04 -> 15.04 easily
[12:43] <studentttu> since u said its LTS to LTS
[12:43] <studentttu> i have 14.04
[12:43] <k1l_> 15.04 is no LTS
[12:43] <studentttu> ohh
[12:43] <baizon> !LTS | studentttu
[12:43] <k1l_> every second year
[12:43] <studentttu> k1l_:  so if i upgrade to 14.10, will it keep my files_
[12:43] <studentttu> ?
[12:44] <studentttu> or format them clean
[12:44] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. upgrades do keep the files
[12:45] <studentttu> k1l_:  how should I upgrade to 14.10 then
[12:45] <LonelyDanbo> Well it seems to be running. I took it all out and just put in "wine WoW-64.exe -openGL" and used the working directory and the wineprefix, so hopefully that's enough.
[12:45] <k1l_> studentttu: _but_ since 14.10 is not supported anymore you need to do some manual work to be able to upgrade. and after that you need to ASAP upgrade to 15.04 since 14.10 doesnt get any security updates anymore since its shut down already
[12:45] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | studentttu
[12:49] <studentttu> k1l_:  whats the codename for 14.10?
[12:49] <k1l_> utopic. but you dont change that
[12:49] <studentttu> wait what do you mean dont change what
[12:50] <k1l_> you put the codename from the release you are currently using into the edited sources list
[12:51] <hard_iron> how to send a private message to someone?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !pm | hard_iron
[12:51] <k1l_> hard_iron: /query user
[12:52] <hard_iron> !ubottu is it like this
[12:52] <hard_iron> !pm | ubottu ?
[12:52] <hard_iron> ok ok
[12:52] <hard_iron> actually i want to work on some open source project
[12:52] <hard_iron> but since i am new to all this
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !contribute | hard_iron
[12:52] <hard_iron> so i need your help
[12:53] <mrsam_> hi...i wanna record my destop with my voice...wich program is good for ubuntu?
[12:53] <Guest> hello alruists, i am getting an error message while insalling a soft or updates.. the msg shows.. E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:53] <Guest> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_precise_free_binary-i386_Packages
[12:53] <cymblot> mrsam : simple screen recorder
[12:53] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, desktop recorder
is it good or noT?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, or recordmydesktop
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, install it and test for yourself
[12:56] <hard_iron> someone please guide me from basic
[12:56] <hard_iron> how should i start working on a project
[12:56] <cfhowlett> hard_iron, did you read the link? that is where you start
[12:57] <hard_iron> yeah i saw that
[12:57] <hard_iron> cfhowlwtt    i know c and java
[12:57] <hard_iron> so can i work on any project?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> hard_iron, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[12:58] <dangered> I can't even find a good remote desktop application for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS... Chrome Remote Desktop is broken, VNC I couldn't get quite set up, etc etc. Any idea what the best solution is?
[13:00] <mrsam_> HOW can i understand that my driver of graphic is install or noT?
[13:01] <flux242> hi, are there any plans to get rid of python2.7 for the 16.04?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> flux242, I believe it was announced that python 3 would be the default for 16.04
[13:03] <flux242> default means no python2 libs at all or default means that it'll be used for gnome?
[13:04] <romain__> yo qqn a réussit à installer eclipse sur raspberry ubuntu mate ?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> flux242, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
[13:04] <romain__> what
[13:05] <cfhowlett> https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Python-Plans
[13:05] <romain__> y quoi hexchat
[13:06] <k1l_> romain__: this channel is english. try #ubuntu-fr for french
[13:06] <romain__> ok thx
[13:06] <asbak> i want help regarding open source
[13:06] <romain__> how do i change
[13:06] <asbak> please someone help
[13:06] <k1l_> asbak: this is ubuntu support. what is the issue
[13:06] <romain__> translate please?
[13:07] <asbak> ?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> romain__, go to the french channel for french.  no translation here
[13:07] <sruli> i am trying to install negotiator-host for my qemu, but dont know how https://pypi.python.org/pypi/negotiator-host can anyone help?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !contribute | asbak,
[13:07] <aldebaran> romain: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:07] <studentttu> k1l_:  do I just sudo do-release-upgrade after installing the update managers and updating lists
[13:08] <mrsam_> HOW can i understand that my driver of graphic card is install or noT?
[13:08] <asbak> ubottu
[13:08] <bekks> mrsam_: Whoch graphics card do you have?
[13:08] <yeats> mrsam_: look for an application called "Additional Drivers"
[13:08] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. as explained on that wiki page
[13:08] <mrsam_> i have amd radeon
[13:08] <studentttu> k1l_:  yea im just making sure because i have not done this before and english is not my native language
[13:09] <bekks> mrsam_: Which one of the gazillion of "amd radeon"?
[13:09] <mrsam_> yeats : i see it but i cant understand speacial thing
[13:09] <asbak> !pm | cfhowlett i am not able to filter out how should i proceed
umm i cant remmebr details
[13:09] <cfhowlett> asbak, suggest you read the wiki, choose a project and contact the project lead about contributing
[13:09] <mrsam_> I wanna one command to understand it
[13:10] <bekks> mrsam_: Pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please, and provide the URL of your pastebin.
[13:10] <asbak> cfhowlett, can you please give me a start
[13:10] <xpruined> bekks: why you threaten me
ok
[13:11] <studentttu> [15:09] <xpruined> you are example of genetic damage passed on from your grandparents and parents doing excessive legal and illegal drugs. Your brain is permanently genetically liberally ruined.
[13:11] <studentttu> 5/7
[13:11] <asbak> !pm | cfhowlett  can you please give me a start
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:12] <cfhowlett> asbak, already done.  choose what you want to help with.  look in the program website for contact information.  contact the project and offer help.
[13:12] <aldebaran> BluesKaj: Hi
http://paste.ubuntu.com/14115278/
[13:13] <bekks> mrsam_: Look at the last two lines.
[13:13] <flux242> hm, devs are marking all bugs related to the python2 to python3 upgrade as low. Blueman for instance is fixed in debian but marked as low priority
[13:14] <flux242> in ubuntu
[13:14] <asbak> hey
[13:14] <asbak> can u help me
[13:14] <asbak> blueskaj
[13:14] <asbak> ?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi aldebaran, asbak
so?
[13:16] <asbak> hi
[13:16] <asbak> blueskaj
[13:16] <mrsam_> <bekks? is it installed?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> mrsam_  use tab to complete nicks ... type be and then hit tab
[13:16] <k1l_> asbak: what is your ubuntu issue?
[13:16] <bekks> mrsam_: So what does the last line say?
[13:16] <asbak> in ubuntu's link.....which one should i start
[13:17] <mrsam_> <bekks? say use radeon
[13:17] <asbak> and how
[13:17] <k1l_> asbak: i dont understand what you mean exactly
[13:17] <studentttu> k1l_: Upgrade complete   The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade  process.
[13:18] <asbak> i want to start working on a project
[13:18] <studentttu> how should I proceed?
[13:18] <k1l_> !in | asbak maybe they can help you in your native language
[13:18] <asbak> i am totally new to all this
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> asbak  what brings you here
[13:18] <bekks> mrsam_: No. What exactly does it say?
[13:18] <k1l_> studentttu: depends on the errors
[13:19] <mrsam_> Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X] (rev ff)
[13:19] <mrsam_> 	Kernel driver in use: radeon
[13:19] <studentttu> k1l_:  it doesnt say anything about the errors
[13:19] <asbak> this is the defaulf channel,,,,,so i thought i might get help regarding my issue
[13:19] <studentttu> oh hold on
[13:19] <k1l_> mrsam_: radeon is the open source driver. that is in use on your system.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> asbak  and what is your issue?
[13:20] <studentttu> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/ywNFA2RD
[13:20] <asbak> MonkeyDust just tell me what should be my next step if i ant to work on a project
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> asbak  what kind of project? fly to the moon?
 so i wanna install a program looklike photoshop..which program is good?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, gimp
[13:21] <k1l_> mrsam_: use gimp
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> asbak  that was rude... i mean, what are you trying to do?
[13:21] <mrsam_> TNX
[13:21] <asbak> a basic project in which a student having knowldge of c can proceed with
[13:22] <boodllebat> i have a issue with GNU make can i ask here ?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, ask
[13:22] <flux242> on my system I only have blueman and gvs-backends to depend on python2. Too bad if they won't make them python3 compatible for 16.04
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> asbak  ok, C programming... join a C channel
[13:22] <boodllebat> i have two make statements 1st works but 2nd not , can i know why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14115295/
[13:22] <asbak> ok but dont be angry
[13:22] <asbak> many of us are new here
[13:23] <mrsam_> k1l and other problem is (i cant connect to linux with android)
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> asbak  type    /j ##c++
[13:23] <mrsam_> k1l and other problem is (i cant connect to linux with android with ssh protocol)
[13:24] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: i did it :)
[13:24] <asbak> thanks MonkeyDust
[13:28] <Abdallah> i have problem with mail server on ubuntu
[13:28] <mrsam_> i cant connect to linux with android with ssh protocol
[13:29] <Abdallah> i have problem with mail server on ubuntu
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !patience | Abdallah
[13:29] <goudkov> hi, if i need to restart unity/compiz without killing the session, what's the difference among:  "setsid unity". "setsid unity --replace", "setsid compiz --replace" ? i can't find a concrete explanation. just examples of commands.
[13:29] <matdelllila> I can not insall epiphany browser
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> !find epiphany
[13:30] <k1l_> mrsam_: then check if the ssh server is running
[13:30] <matdelllila> I download ephipany .deb
[13:30] <k1l_> !ssh | mrsam_
[13:30] <mrsam_> <k1l/. i install openssh-server
[13:30] <k1l_> mrsam_: read the howto
[13:31] <matdelllila> and when  I install It says wvdial missed
[13:31] <cfhowlett> matdelllila, that is not the way.  sudo apt install ephipany
[13:31] <k1l_> studentttu: that is not enough information.
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> matdelllila  no need to use a deb ... simply type    sudo apt install epiphany
[13:31] <Abdallah> can i install mail server on ubuntu ? not ununtu server ?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  was faster
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Abdallah, yes
[13:31] <bekks> Abdallah: Sure.
[13:31] <matdelllila> I use ubuntu Mate
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> matdelllila  no difference
[13:32] <Abdallah> if i need install bind9 < i must remove smba?
[13:32] <matdelllila> I do not see snaptic
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> matdelllila  open a terminal window
[13:32] <cfhowlett> matdelllila, no one mentioned snaptic.
[13:32] <k1l_> Abdallah: a mail server on not a server is kind of pointless.
[13:32] <k1l_> Abdallah: and most mailservers do block dynip mail servers.
[13:35] <matdelllila> It says unable to locate package
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> jjj
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:35] <mrdiamonyoyo> k
[13:36] <k1l_> matdelllila: make sure you dont have a typo. its called synaptic
[13:38] <ubuntu779> Hello.
[13:39] <aldebaran> hello, ubuntu779
[13:39] <akik> when plugging hdmi to the laptop and connecting it -> amplifier -> tv, i can't get audio coming out until i restart my laptop. is there any way to restart some process to make audio come out, other than restarting the laptop? (kubuntu 14.04.3)
[13:39] <ubuntu779> Whenever I try to open a terminal, it won't open one. Using the shell (I actually have no idea what that means) in Emacs reveals that there is no such file as libvte2_90.so.9.
[13:40] <ubuntu779> Also, is Peppermint Linux relevant to this?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ubuntu779, yes.  peppermint is NOT ubuntu and is NOT supported here.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu779  not supported here
[13:40] <k1l_> ubuntu779: ask the peppermint gyus if that is a common issue on their OS
[13:40] <ubuntu779> Isn't Peppermint based on Lubuntu?
[13:40] <donatello673> I tried installing trisquel from a USB but instead of booting from it after installation was complete, it hangs with a blinking underscore in the top left. I've tried to reformat the USB and put ubuntu on it but when I put it in the PC and boot, the boot selection still reads trisquel.......
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu779  mint is a different distro, you're in the wrong channel
[13:41] <k1l_> ubuntu779: based, but we cant know what they changed. so please ask them
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !flavors | ubuntu779, not on this list?  not supported here.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> donatello673  you too, trisquel is not supported here
[13:41] <ubuntu779> Okay.
[13:41] <k1l_> donatello673: for trisquel ask the gnu guys for support. thanks
[13:41] <donatello673> k1l_ MonkeyDust : i'm trying to install ubuntu
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> donatello673  type /j #trisquel
[13:42] <k1l_> donatello673: how did you make that ubuntu usb?
[13:43] <donatello673> k1l_: with OS X, following this guide http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-drive-for-pc-on-a-mac--cms-21187
[13:43] <aldebaran> !flavors
[13:44] <k1l_> donatello673: you might to clean format and make a new partition table on that usb drive
[13:44] <donatello673> k1l_: i believe i did that
[13:46] <studentttu> k1l_:  hey so... everything crashed and now it boots to emergency mode
[13:46] <studentttu> k1l_:  what to do
[13:46] <k1l_> studentttu: what errors exactly?
[13:47] <studentttu> k1l_:  whole thing crashed and when it rebooted im at emergency mode, root place
[13:47] <renn0xtk9> Hey all,  I placed a symling in /etc/rc0.d to a script "$HOME/a.sh" .  a.sh is calling a subroutine in $HOME/b.sh   .   I notice that a is well called when shutting down the computer but it seems like we do not enter b.sh  (although I specified the fullpath of b,sh in a.sh)
[13:47] <renn0xtk9> any idea what is going wrong?
[13:48] <k1l_> studentttu: "my car is broken" "what is broken" "my car"     without any details its very hard to get a solution. that is why i asked for more details before
[13:48] <studentttu> k1l_:  but I have no details, the screen froze and now it boots to emergency mode
[13:49] <studentttu> k1l_:  I can give root commands, thats all
[13:50] <guy_> what is the proper way to install a -dbgsym kernel ? i'm on trusty 14.04 3.13.05-35
[13:50] <jaaphermsen> There are three Linuxkernels installed on my computer, but only one is recommended. Can I remove two of the Linuxkernels without having problems with my system?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> jaaphermsen, remove ONE kernel with sudo apt-get autoremove       keep at least one reserver kernel
[13:51] <ioria> studentttu, you can try to boot in Recovery Mode , root shell, exit , resume and then open a console
[13:55] <guy_> anyone ?
[13:56] <jaaphermsen> Done! Thanks, cfhowlett!
[13:56] <cfhowlett> jaaphermsen, happy2help!
[13:59] <matdelllila> Gdebi package says  broken Dependencies
[13:59] <matdelllila> how to repare this package
[14:00] <toor> SO, my server can receive emails but cannot send them.
[14:01] <studentttu> ioria:  didnt work, but I may get there via boot menu
[14:01] <ajay_> Hai
[14:02] <ajay_> ok
[14:02] <carrera> ubuntu mate 15.10, on an Asus G751 with GeForce 860m, sees my Samsung external monitor but does not send signal.  Can anyone help me?
[14:02] <ioria> studentttu, it doesn't resume ?
[14:02] <studentttu> ioria:  okay this is awkward in boot menu it says ubuntu with linux 3.19 recovery mode
[14:02] <ajay_> hey go yar
[14:02] <ioria> studentttu, yes....
[14:03] <studentttu> ioria: it goes to root
[14:03] <studentttu> if i resume
[14:03] <ioria> studentttu, ok.... try to exit and resume
[14:03] <studentttu> exit resume goes to root
[14:03] <matdelllila>  Gdebi package says  broken Dependencies  how to repare this package
[14:04] <ioria> studentttu, it comes backs to root shell ?
[14:04] <studentttu> ioria:  ya if i click resume in menu
[14:05] <ioria> studentttu, what did you do before the crash ?
[14:06] <studentttu> ioria: i  did a sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:06] <studentttu> it completed with errors
[14:06] <studentttu> then i did sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and computer crashed
[14:07] <studentttu> and booted to root
[14:07] <ioria> studentttu, ah, ok .... maybe a broken upgrade....   you were vivid and wanted upgrade to wily ?
[14:07] <studentttu> i had 14.04
[14:07] <studentttu> wanted to upgrade to 15.10
[14:07] <studentttu> so k1l adviced to do-release-upgrade to 14.10 first
[14:07] <ioria> studentttu,  yes
[14:08] <tanmay> I have a dell inspiron 3537 with 6 gb ram, intel i5 4th gen cpu. it takes too much time to boot ubuntu 15.10 ( around 3 minutes). help please
[14:08] <ioria> studentttu,  it'a a long road
[14:08] <studentttu> ioria:  How can I fix this? preferabbly continuing upgrade
[14:08] <ioria> studentttu,  14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10   this ?
[14:08] <studentttu> ioria:  yes
[14:09] <ioria> studentttu,  uname -r
[14:09] <flux242> why do you want to install 15.10 over 14.04?
[14:09] <liangruichang> Hello
[14:09] <studentttu> flux242:  because the gcc compiler is too old in 14.04, and the ppa doesnt work properly
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> studentttu  wait 4 months, 16.04 will soon be released
[14:10] <flux242> i'd wait for 16.04 too
[14:10] <thecyclone> MonkeyDust: will 16.04 be LTS?
[14:10] <liangruichang> me,too.
[14:10] <nixon1> anybody?
[14:10] <flux242> yes, lts
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> thecyclone  yes
[14:10] <studentttu> ioria:  go to root?
[14:11] <liangruichang> I use the xubuntu
[14:11] <studentttu> ioria:  away from recover mode root i mean
[14:11] <studentttu> sec
[14:11] <ioria> studentttu,  yes.... what kernel did you have on your trusty ?  3.16  or 3.19 ?
[14:12] <studentttu> both
[14:12] <studentttu> but just now 3.19
[14:12] <flux242> and I wouldn't do that kind of shit upgrading all the way up the hill 100500 intermediate releases. I'd just install new distro over
[14:12] <studentttu> ioria:  okay this is wierd but
[14:12] <cfhowlett> flux242, no need or place for profanity in this channel
[14:13] <ioria> studentttu,  for me is a broken upgrade .... there's a reason why you cannot install wily direclty ?
[14:13] <studentttu> ioria: just now it was briefly booting to 15.04, and now im in root again. uname -3 is 3.19
[14:13] <flux242> cfhowlett: what's profanity?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !language | flux242
[14:14] <flux242> i do speak calm polite english. I just don't know another word for shit
[14:15] <cfhowlett> flux242, knock it off. now.
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> flux242  avoid the sh word
[14:15] <studentttu> can i install 15.10 from root straightly somehow?
[14:15] <studentttu> fresh install
[14:16] <flux242> is crap allowed?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> flux242  behave or go away
[14:17] <studentttu> MonkeyDust:  do you know if its possible to install new ubuntu fresh via root
[14:17] <studentttu> ?
[14:18] <carrera> ubuntu mate 15.10, on an Asus G751 with GeForce 860m, sees my Samsung external monitor but does not send signal.  Can anyone help me?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> studentttu  you mean, from within a running system?
[14:18] <carrera> cfhowlett, can you help me with that ^^?
[14:18] <studentttu> MonkeyDust:  yeah
[14:18] <cfhowlett> carrera, sorry, no idea where to start.
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> studentttu  no, use a usb/dvd to install ubuntu
[14:18] <carrera> cfhowlett, thanks anyway
[14:19] <cfhowlett> studentttu, sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:19] <studentttu> cfhowlett: i did but it didnt recognize new releases
[14:19] <studentttu> whole thing is borken
[14:19] <cfhowlett> studentttu, then clean install and use the usual methods of system management
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> studentttu  you want to go directly from 14.04 to 15.10? then use a usb/dvd
[14:20] <studentttu> MonkeyDust:  well I did a do-upgrade and wanted to get to 14.10, but apparently 15.04 was installed and now it briefly loads 15.04 and boots to root
[14:20] <studentttu> :-/
[14:21] <cfhowlett> studentttu, did you do end of life upgrade method?
[14:21] <studentttu> ya
[14:21] <cfhowlett> studentttu, then you did something wrong.  consider your system broken and beyond repair.  clean install.
[14:22] <studentttu> indeed'
[14:23] <cfhowlett> studentttu, also, since you don't seem to regularly upgrade, I suggest you go with LTS releases; 14.04 currently >> 16.04 in April.
[14:24] <matdelllila> Gdebi package installer is broken  dependecies how to repare this please
[14:24] <cfhowlett> matdelllila, apt is the default package manager for ubuntu.  gdebi is not recommended.
[14:25] <studentttu> cfhowlett: I will install 15.10 now and consider 16.04 in april. 14.04 has too old gcc compilers and the newer ppa didnt work properly
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> studentttu  try the !backports
[14:33] <mrlee> 안녕하세요
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !korean | mrlee
[14:33] <chillpill_>  Translation failed
[14:39] <Apachez> in order to get newer graphics drivers for intel when using ubuntu 15.10, do you suggest xorg-edgers or oibaf or some other ppa?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> Apachez, intel provides drivers now ...
[14:40] <Apachez> yes but things have been fixed since 15.10 was released
[14:40] <Apachez> incl mesa
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Apachez  sounds like you're are you telling us what to do
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> instead of asking
[14:41] <cfhowlett> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.1
[14:42] <Apachez> cfhowlett: thats outdated
[14:51] <jaapio_> hi, I have some issues with booting my laptop. I think I formated the wrong disk. Now only the bios shows up.
[14:51] <jaapio_> I tried the boot-repair util but that didn't help
[14:54] <jaapio_> booting from a live-usb works fine. In that case a do even see my partions with the lvm, and all files are still there. But I don't know what is missing exactly. For some reason the disk is not recocized as boot disk
[14:55] <phil__> I see xenial on packages.ubuntu.com, but I thought it would be released in 2016?
[14:55] <phil__> Is it already frozen or released or...?
[14:56] <somsip> phil__: not released until Apr 2016 - see #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <phil__> thanks
[14:58] <AniByte> Hello, I have this package, And i want the latest version of it(Active development) on a release prior to that
[14:59] <AniByte> So if it was for Xeniox
[14:59] <AniByte> I want it on Wily
[14:59] <somsip> AniByte: what pacakge?
[14:59] <AniByte> Is it possible to add a PPA line for that package so it updates it to the latest version
[14:59] <AniByte> https://launchpad.net/youtube-dl
[14:59] <AniByte> Dere
[14:59] <somsip> Dere?
[14:59] <AniByte> dere = there
[15:00] <somsip> AniByte: you might find a PPA that provides a newer version of youtube-dl - search and general info about PPA is here....
[15:00] <somsip> !ppa | AniByte
[15:02] <AniByte> somsip, That wass not what i mean, I want it to download the next release for that package
[15:02] <AniByte> Since there are no other PPA that offer that ver
[15:02] <AniByte> The newer fixed verssion is uploaded to that branch
[15:02] <AniByte> But i cant download it cuss i dont have xeniox
[15:02] <AniByte> But wily
[15:02] <somsip> AniByte: there is no 'next' release. There is the current release, and a version in the repo that may or may not be the same
[15:02] <AniByte> https://launchpad.net/youtube-dl < Xenial on Wily
[15:03] <AniByte> That is my poiny
[15:03] <AniByte> point*
[15:03] <somsip> !youtube-dl wily
[15:03] <somsip> !info youtube-dl wily
[15:03] <somsip> !info youtube-dl
[15:03] <AniByte> That is outdated
[15:03] <AniByte> It contains a fatal bug
[15:03] <AniByte> I need
[15:03] <AniByte> !youtube-dl xenial
[15:03] <somsip> AniByte: so you want a newer version than 2015.06.04.1-1?
[15:03] <AniByte> Yes
[15:03] <AniByte> becaouse that one is fixed
[15:03] <somsip> AniByte: use a PPA as stated
[15:04] <AniByte> There isnt any
[15:04] <AniByte> That offers a newer on Wily
[15:04] <AniByte> I looked it up
[15:04] <AniByte> I just want that version being automatically and updated
[15:04] <AniByte> I basically want to change my upstream
[15:04] <AniByte> For that package
[15:04] <AniByte> Like in git
[15:04] <AniByte> Rolling release.
[15:04] <k1l_> AniByte: please dont use enter that often.
[15:05] <k1l_> AniByte: ubuntu doesnt support that kind of package deployment ootb. so either you find a PPA that does that work for you, you will have to make own packages with compiling.
[15:05] <somsip> AniByte: that's not how packaging works in ubuntu. You have the official repo version, or an unofficial version. Unofficial isn't suported here, but you would normally get them from PPAs or compiling yourself. IIRC youtube-dl is a python script, so if you want a newer version, just get it from the homepage
[15:06] <AniByte> somsip, Thanks
[15:06] <AniByte> https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8?field.series_filter=wily
[15:06] <AniByte> Found it finally
[15:07] <phil__> AniByte, xenial's version is 2015.11.27, is that enough? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=youtube-dl
[15:07] <somsip> phil__: he's on wily
[15:08] <k1l_> phil__: dont mix releases. that will result in a depency mess
[15:08] <phil__> um, since xenial's version does not have versioned dependencies per packages.ubuntu.com, he could download the .deb and do dpkg -i manually without dependency problwms
[15:15] <studentttu> okay everything works now, even my files were kept when i used usb to install 15.10 straight
[15:15] <studentttu> thanks for help gais
[15:15] <cfhowlett> studentttu, don't forget to keep that ubuntu USB close by
[15:30] <tuxedo> hello
[15:31] <tuxedo> can someone tell me, what happen on google with firefox
[15:31] <tuxedo> ?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> tuxedo, explain
[15:31] <nicomachus> tuxedo: what do you mean?
[15:32] <Swensson> I havn't noticed anything with google @ firefox
[15:33] <tuxedo> well, it's take too long to log in
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> tuxedo  how is that ubuntu related?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> tuxedo, google problem not ubuntu problem.  ask google
[15:34] <tuxedo> and for some reason when I tried to share some information it's get freeze
[15:34] <tuxedo> I know ubuntu is not the problem
[15:34] <tuxedo> I use the ubuntu browse and everything work fine
[15:34] <cfhowlett> tuxedo, ?  then why ask here???  take it up with google.
[15:34] <slidinghorn> tuxedo: then why ask in the ubuntu support channel?
[15:35] <ehsanv> hi, my laptop speakers not work in ubuntu, but in windows it works! in ubuntu i only get speaker jack work
[15:35] <tuxedo> to see if Im only or there are other with the same problem
[15:35] <hans_> hi vguys
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> ehsanv  in a terminal window, type   alsamixer     see anything wrong?
[15:36] <hans_> why must i stay at ubuntu and not use mint
[15:36] <cfhowlett> hans_, use what you want.  mint is not supported here.
[15:36] <cfhowlett> !mint | hans_
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> hans_  decide what you want, we can't decide for you
[15:36] <k1l_> hans_: its your choice: but when you come here to ask: use ubuntu
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> hans_  making your own choices is part of growing up
[15:37] <ehsanv> MonkeyDust, i see Card: HDA Intel HDMI with 2 outputs, when i select sound card F6 i see HDA Intel PCH too
[15:37] <hans_> you all use ubuntu but why above mint. im seeking and ask what are the differents
[15:37] <ehsanv> MonkeyDust, i think the problem is HDA Intel PCH is not my default sound output, maybe!
[15:38] <hans_> thats all i want to no
[15:38] <tuxedo> and by the way, ubuntu browser is say it is on safari version
[15:38] <nicomachus> tuxedo: there is no "ubuntu browser"
[15:38] <hans_> im on unity and im seeking
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> hans_  use both systems, live, then see what's the difference
[15:38] <cfhowlett> hans_, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel
[15:38] <tuxedo> yes there is one
[15:38] <tuxedo> on the dash search you put browser
[15:39] <tuxedo> and show all the browser and you gonna see one it's say browser name only
[15:39] <slidinghorn> tuxedo: that just opens whichever browser is set as default
[15:39] <nicomachus> whoa... wait, what is this?
[15:39] <k1l_> tuxedo: that is the ubuntu/gnome webbrowser
[15:40] <tuxedo> yes
[15:40] <tuxedo> it's say safari version
[15:40] <k1l_> tuxedo: maybe its uses the safari engine
[15:40] <k1l_> tuxedo: but what is the issue here?
[15:41] <k1l_> tuxedo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsers#Ubuntu_Web_Browser
[15:41] <tuxedo> the issue is if other person with the same problem I have with firefox and google
[15:42] <tuxedo> thats all
[15:42] <k1l_> tuxedo: what issues? and you talked not about firefox
[15:42] <cfhowlett> tuxedo, no one else has mentioned it in the past 3 hours so ... just you.
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> tuxedo  the answer is no, nobody has the same probleù
[15:43] <k1l_> tuxedo: start firefox with a clean profile (no addons) to check.
[15:43] <bytemonkey> anyone use cyborg linux?
[15:43] <tuxedo> ok
[15:44] <k1l_> bytemonkey: ask in ##linux or their support channel
[15:44] <cfhowlett> bytemonkey, not in this channel.  This is ubuntu support.  cyborg is not supported or discussed here.
[15:44] <tuxedo> I'll try that
[15:44] <bytemonkey> im in ##linux, and have asked...I was just asking here since it's based on ubuntu...
[15:44] <bytemonkey> not much documentation on the site.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> bytemonkey, but is NOT ubuntu and is NOT supported or discussed here.
[15:45] <k1l_> bytemonkey: see their webpage, they want to sell you something. so ask them. its not supported by ubuntu
[15:45] <bytemonkey> riiiiight.
[15:45] <bytemonkey> why use 10 words when two will do
[15:45]  * cfhowlett believes if your OS of choices doesn't provide sufficient support perhaps you should reconsider your choice.
[15:45] <teward> bytemonkey: anything based of Ubuntu, that isn't an officially supported variant, is offtopic here.
[15:46]  * bytemonkey not using cyborg
[15:46] <bytemonkey> teward: thanks
[15:46] <teward> bytemonkey: and not supported.  Therefore, ##linux is where you need to be; unless that distro has their own channel in which case go there.
[15:46] <MWM> Im trying to install a tarball but the readme only says "install this tarball wherever you like" .... I usually need the Readme to be more specific :)
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !flavors | bytemonkey "not on this list, not supported here" - 7 words
[15:47] <MWM> there isnt a configure file or make file ...
[15:47] <nicomachus> MWM what's the application?
[15:48] <teward> MWM: that's not very helpful, unfortunately, what's the application?  (We don't have any details to try and help you)
[15:48] <MWM> its called copy...dropbox alternative
[15:48] <bytemonkey> sheesh
[15:49] <Gallomimia> are you sure it's not just a collection of scripts?
[15:49] <k1l_> MWM: /opt is the place for systemwide non-repo programs
[15:49] <nicomachus> MWM: this? https://www.copy.com/page/
[15:50] <MWM> nichomachus: yep
[15:50] <MWM> kil: thanks , I was considering starting a new directory. I didnt realize there already was one for such things
[15:50] <nicomachus> MWM: there's a PPA here that may be easier: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/install-copycom-client-in-ubuntu-or.html
[15:51] <whomeu> hey
[15:54] <MWM> when I add a ppa it will show in sources.list right?  also are there "known good" and "known  bad" repos?
[15:55] <k1l_> MWM: PPAs go to sources.list.d directory
[15:55] <EriC^^> MWM: it shows up in /etc/sources.list.d/<something.list>
[15:55] <EriC^^> * /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<something.list>
[15:56] <MWM> thank you for the full patH I usually have to look it up :)
[15:56] <EriC^^> np
[15:56] <Gallomimia> there's a command to auto add repos and check for safety.. what does it check some signature?
[15:57] <Gallomimia> apt-add-repository
[15:57] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: that signature is just the signature of the person who made the repo
[15:57] <EriC^^> it doesn't mean it's safe or not safe it just means nobody has tampered with whatever he uploaded
[15:57] <Gallomimia> yeah. that's still useful
[15:58] <MWM> I imagine just like anything else if you add the wrong repo you could bork your system .... so is there any way to get a clue about repos that arent included with the OS?
[15:58] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: if it's a launchpad ppa, they require the person to upload the source file, and the deb is built on their system, so it's more likely to be safe,  still though anybody can make a ppa and put something malicious (fwiw)
[15:58] <nicomachus> MWM: for the most part, webupd8 is generally considered a safe PPA.
[15:58] <cfhowlett> MWM, it's a matter of trust ...
[15:59] <Swensson> MWM: Swe?
[15:59] <MWM> that is what I was wondering:  its not that I mistrust, but checking before hand is always a good idea
[15:59] <Gallomimia> mwm its all in sources
[16:00] <MWM> Swenson:  ?  did I typo Swe up there?
[16:00] <cfhowlett> MWM, "Trust but verify" is the model to adopt when working with PPA
[16:00] <Swensson> Mwm: noo... I was wondering if you were Swe, my made calls himself MWM so I just thought........ Nvm :P
[16:01] <Swensson> my mate*
[16:01] <Swensson> Autocorrect have fucked up my spelling
[16:01] <Brosh> anyone free to advise where i might look to try fix a wifi connection from an ubuntu server?
[16:01] <MWM> cfhowlett: that is closer to what I was asking.  There doesnt seem to be any way to verify except a cold test.  Install and hope it doesnt bork
[16:01] <cfhowlett> Swensson, drop the profanity.  it's even more unwelcome than spelling errors
[16:02] <cfhowlett> MWM, I have only the inkscape PPA because the newest version has not yet arrived in ubuntu repos.
[16:02] <MWM> Swenson: np :)
[16:02] <Swensson> Cfhowlett: Sorry Im not really following you here, profanity? :P
[16:02] <teward> Swensson:
[16:02] <teward> ooop
[16:03] <teward> nevermind, wrong channel, wrong button :)
[16:03] <Swensson> ;D
[16:03] <Macsurf> hello I have problem ... I compiled a module wifi but I see only files with extension *.o instead of *.ko why ?
[16:03] <MWM> cfhowlett: so ubuntu will comb through them and add them if they are known safe and otherwise you're on your own? is that what you mean
[16:04] <cfhowlett> MWM, exactly.  see the link.  "unsupported"
[16:04] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[16:04] <lonix> If the identical package is found in two mirrors in apt, what mirror will be chosen ?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> lonix, the one you have set your sources to
[16:05] <lonix> cfhowlett: explain ?
[16:05] <cfhowlett> lonix, my sources list points to tshingua university                       there are other mirrors nearby, but that is the one I selected.
[16:06] <cfhowlett> it is only 2 hours behind the main repos.  if I need a package that has not yet hit tshingua, it will not show up.
[16:06] <doxinho> so my /boot partition is full, so I can't install 3.9.0-42; I'm a bit of a novice, how do I increase the size of the boot partition?
[16:06] <lonix> cfhowlett: you miss understod me, i have several mirrors in sources.list
[16:07] <ypeered> lonix: yes sir
[16:07] <Seveas> doxinho: why not just clean up old kernels?
[16:07] <doxinho> good idea- what's the best way to do that? didn't know that was an option.
[16:07] <Gallomimia> doxinho: try sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:07] <cfhowlett> doxinho, this ^^^
[16:07] <doxinho> excellent, thank you-- sorry, bit of a linux noob <3
[16:07] <Gallomimia> thats good. welcome to linux :)
[16:07] <Seveas> doxinho: if the autoremove fails to remove old kernels (it happens sometimes), pastebin the output of ls -la /boot && uname -a
[16:07] <nicomachus> 3.9.0-42? doxinho, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> doxinho, we are all noobs to some extent.  no apology needed
[16:08] <lonix> ypeered: what are you trying to acoplish ?
[16:08] <ypeered> lonix: what you mean
[16:08] <lonix> That was kinda funny guys ypeered pmed me, started trashtalking me for being a liberal pice of trash.
[16:08] <lonix> Sorta funny.
[16:09] <lonix> You know nothing about me, mate.
[16:09] <cfhowlett> lonix, report abusive behavior to the !ops
[16:09] <nicomachus> lonix: report it in #ubuntu-ops
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> lonix  keep that for yourself
[16:09] <doxinho> I'm running Ubuntu 15.04
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> lonix  i mean, we don't have to know that
[16:09] <cfhowlett> and consider adding him to your /ignore
[16:09] <doxinho> autoremove didn't work, pastebining the results
[16:10] <lonix> cfhowlett: i got a funny feeling its a trowaway account anyhow
[16:10] <lonix> For the record guys i am a member of a conservative party :P
[16:10] <cfhowlett> lonix, no, he's a repeat
[16:10] <doxinho> Here's the results from autoremove: http://pastebin.com/X1ab2LZf
[16:10] <lonix> ok
[16:10] <Gallomimia> i got the PM also from ypeered
[16:11] <doxinho> me too, I was toying with him in PM
[16:11] <Gallomimia> he left
[16:11] <doxinho> he called me an iranian-loving liberal
[16:11] <nicomachus> ok, he's gone now, enough about the PMs.
[16:11] <nicomachus> Stay on-topic.
[16:11] <doxinho> copy that
[16:11] <doxinho> no space in /boot causing some serious issues :O
[16:12] <cfhowlett> doxinho, you can manually delete using your terminal
[16:12] <lonix> So in anycase. Lets say i have mirror in my apt sources.list and have us archive in the same sources.list, and i installed something
[16:12] <lonix> what would get picked
[16:12] <Seveas> doxinho:  pastebin the output of ls -la /boot && uname -a
[16:12] <doxinho> just keep the latest version, basically. makes sense
[16:12] <nicomachus> doxinho: keep the 2 most recent.
[16:12] <cfhowlett> doxinho, latest 2 versions in case the newest goes sideways
[16:13] <doxinho> Seveas: nicomachus: http://pastebin.com/7Fca7HYz
[16:13] <doxinho> cool cool
[16:13] <cfhowlett> doxinho, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[16:13] <doxinho> thank you sir
[16:13] <doxinho> i like when this stuff breaks and i can fix it, get to learn a bit more
[16:13] <cfhowlett> happy2help! doxinho
[16:13] <Gallomimia> doxinho: i agree only way to learn!
[16:14] <cfhowlett> break it, fix it, profit
[16:14] <Seveas> doxinho: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.19.0-{15,30,31,32,33}-generic
[16:14] <Gallomimia> there's no profit when its your own home pc
[16:14] <nicomachus> knowledge is profit
[16:14] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, false.  knowledge is its own reward
[16:14] <Seveas> knowledge is power!
[16:14] <Gallomimia> not quite. we get paid for what we do, not for what we know
[16:14] <doxinho> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/1zv0fZW8
[16:15] <ehsanv> hi, why 'analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)' ?!!? available: unknown?
[16:15] <honey12>  i am   beginer to java  any one can help me in  two matrix multiplication that can accept output of http://paste.ubuntu.com/14116890/  using in java may be?
[16:15] <ehsanv> this is pacmd list-sinks output
[16:15] <Seveas> doxinho: ooh fun, apt has its panties in a twist because of this. Time to use dpkg instead
[16:15] <cfhowlett> honey12, ask the java channel
[16:15] <doxinho> fascinating :O
[16:15] <Seveas> doxinho: sudo dpkg -P --purge linux-image{,-extra}-3.19.0-{15,30,31,32,33}-generic
[16:16] <Seveas> err, remove the --purge if that errors out. I shouldn't have left that in :)
[16:17] <doxinho> yeah needed to remove the --purge, but otherwise that did the trick!
[16:17] <Seveas> excellent
[16:17] <nicomachus> doxinho: by the way, 15.04 goes out of support in just a few weeks. update that box to 15.10
[16:17] <cfhowlett> doxinho, I do a bit of clean-up everyday:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14117017/
[16:17] <doxinho> oooh. time to find out best way to ugprade
[16:18] <doxinho> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:18] <doxinho> seems easy enough.
[16:18] <cfhowlett> whoa!!
[16:18] <Seveas> if it all works :)
[16:18] <Seveas> but yeah, that's usually how it's done
[16:18] <sruli> i have a python app that i use as an agent for my qemu, it requires sudo to run, how to i change that to allow to run as a normal user? the official qemu-guest-agent runs fine without sudo, how can i do that?
[16:18] <cfhowlett> are you SURE you want an unreleased version, doxinho ??
[16:19] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: what. 15.10 is not unreleased
[16:19] <doxinho> unreleased? o_o
[16:19] <Seveas> sruli: probably a combination of setgid bit, chown to the correct group and assigning yourself that group.
[16:19] <Seveas> cfhowlett: -d on 15.04 still does 15.10 :)
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Seveas, ah, right.  sorry doxinho, my error
[16:20] <doxinho> no worries :D
[16:20] <minas114> hi. I managed to mess up the bootloader. Then I booted a bootable USB and run boot-repair. The problem was fixed, but some new entries have appeared to the grub menu. (EFI/ubuntu/mokmanager) and some more. How can I remove those?
[16:20] <Seveas> doxinho: -d means "even upgrade if the next version isn't released yet". But 15.10 is out, so it's both safe to use -d and unnecessary to do so :)
[16:20] <sruli> Seveas: i changed own to root:kvm, i am a member of kvm
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> good morning
[16:22] <doxinho> linux is so cool <3
[16:23] <cfhowlett> manual | doxinho,
[16:24] <doxinho> lol /boot partition doesnt have enough sapce for upgrade again, fun
[16:24] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: try again. :)
[16:24] <cfhowlett> doxinho, also: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads            start at #0, continue to #103
[16:24] <cfhowlett> nicolas_, sleeping bot
[16:24] <doxinho> guess I'll run that purge command again
[16:24] <nicomachus> minas114: you can try to reload grub.
[16:25] <minas114> nicomachus, I have tried sudo update-grub, but it didn't fix the problem.
[16:29] <Hakon> Hello. I'm investigating a problem i'm having with nfs. Adding an nfsv4 share to /etc/fstab makes the vm hang on boot. If i remove the line, boot the machine then i'm able to mount it manually.
[16:29] <Hakon> It's like it tries to start mounting before network is up
[16:30] <Seveas> doxinho: once the -42 installed properly, reboot and purge older kernel versions
[16:30] <doxinho> yeah done, upgrade underway woot
[16:31] <cfhowlett> doxinho, don't forget to clean up
[16:32] <ioria> Hakon, wifi connection ?
[16:32] <Hakon> wired
[16:33] <ioria> Hakon, are you network-manager  or edited /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[16:33] <ioria> *using
[16:34] <Hakon> edited /etc/network/interfaces
[16:35] <ioria> Hakon, can you paste the fstab line ?
[16:35] <doxinho> i'm upgraded! everything still works- ya'll are the best.
/redacted/path  /readcted/path        nfs     _netdev 0       0
[16:36] <Hakon> i know _netdev doesn't do anything with nfsv4 but i still tried
[16:36] <anabain> Hakon, don't you need nfs4 instead of nfs?
[16:37] <Hakon> it should try nfsv4 first and then nfsv3
[16:37] <anabain> in that entry, I mean
[16:37] <Hakon> i can try
[16:37] <anabain> otherwise, consider using autofs + nfs
[16:37] <ioria> Hakon, at the end try to add   user
[16:38] <anabain> but in general, nfs is *hard* to get to work as one would like.
[16:47] <uruk> how to find exactly files of 4kb for example find . -size +4k --> find files of more of 4 kb but how to find exactly 4kb
[16:47] <Hakon> it seems changing to nfs4 helped
[16:48] <poolq> uruk have you tried -size 4k (i am guessing)
[16:48] <anabain> Hakon, I'n glad to read that. In any case, if you have issues with nfs, consider using autofs to manage your mounts at the client side
[16:51] <Hakon> anabain: thanks for the tip
[16:52] <anabain> you're welcome.
[16:52] <Hakon> i couldn't test on the main VM before later but i tested on a almost identical
[16:58] <Brosh> right guys, i had this wifi shit working and now it's broken again... installed dhcp3-server which appeared to break it... anyone know how one might go about rectifying this?
[16:58] <cfhowlett> Brosh, profanity is neither welcome nor allowed in this channel.  thank.
[16:58] <cfhowlett> s
[17:10] <Guest91197> Al Volante 01 2016 By PdS.pdf (60Mb)
[17:11] <cfhowlett> Guest91197, check your channel
[17:13] <anabain> which is the best textbook to learn about file sharing in linux?
[17:17] <Guest43016> how to install pcsxr in ubuntu14.04
[17:19] <nicomachus> Guest43016: why pcsxr? do you specifically need that program? I've found that RetroArch is better on resources, and "just works"
[17:19] <mrsam_> how can i find my ip and my mac address in terminal??
[17:19] <nicomachus> mrsam_: ifconfig
 where is write my maC?
[17:20] <nicomachus> mrsam_: HWaddr is your MAC address.
[17:20] <nicomachus> IIRC
[17:21] <anabain> mrsam_, the characters after "HWaddr"
 i know..i have hwaddr front of enp2s0 and wlp3s0...which one is currect?
[17:22] <bill_> where should i go for support on 14.04 server distribution?
[17:22] <daftykins> they both are, they're both interfaces.
[17:22] <daftykins> wl = wireless, enp - physical.
[17:22] <daftykins> aka wired
[17:22] <nicomachus> bill_: #ubuntu-server
[17:23] <bill_> thank you
[17:23] <daftykins> bill_: no harm in asking here too, depends what it is
[17:23] <nicomachus> bill_: you can also ask here
[17:23] <nicomachus> but the -server guys specialize in server specific stuff.
[17:27] <linuxR> hello everybody, I have just experienced a segmentation fault in X, while doing nothing but a bit of webbrowsing with firefox...can somebody help?
[17:29] <daftykins> linuxR: ubuntu version? graphics hardware? graphics driver? site you were browsing?
[17:42] <linuxR> daftykins, its ubuntu 14.04 LTS with all updates installed. It's an intel video card and driver, just some insurance site
[17:42] <daftykins> linuxR: hmm ok, what kernel? "uname -r" please
[17:43] <daftykins> any sign of the site using HTML5 video or flash player content?
[17:45] <linuxR> daftykins, I don't use flash player...kernel now is: 3.13.0-74-generic
[17:46] <linuxR> but was 3.13.0-68 when crashing
[17:46] <linuxR> the site seems not to have any video embedded
[17:47] <daftykins> linuxR: ok, so might be unrelated. since you've already changed kernel there's no point looking into it unless it happens again i'd say
[17:47] <toor> Hello, I am trying to set up my ubuntu server as a mailserver but I can't get it to send the mails, it only receives them.
[17:47] <daftykins> toor: #ubuntu-server
[17:48] <daftykins> toor: find a channel for your chosen MTA also
[17:49] <linuxR> daftykins, the problem seems to live in xorg...from what I can see in the backtrace: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[17:49] <daftykins> what's your CPU model?
[17:49] <TJ-> linuxR: when the SIGSEGV occurred a crash dump should have been captured, which you can submit in a bug report using apport / ubuntu-bug, or analyse yourself locally
[17:49] <bratchley> hey I'm pretty new to anything Ubuntu-related. Is there an equivalent to "Material Design" or "PatternFly" for Canonical products?
[17:50] <daftykins> the first of those sounds like android related?
[17:50] <TJ-> linuxR: check for a crash-dump file with "ll /var/crash/"
[17:50] <xangua> bratchley: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/paper-new-material-design-inspired-gtk.html works better with gnome-shell
[17:50] <bratchley> Sorry, yeah I'm not asking if Canonical uses Material Design, just if they have a similar "User Interface Standard" they try to implement
[17:51] <nicomachus> bratchley: you want "ricing". there's a channel for that on irc.rizon.net at #rice, or you can check reddit.com/r/unixporn for ideas.
[17:51] <linuxR> TJ-, yes, there is a file in there for "usr_bin_xorg"
[17:52] <TJ-> linuxR: you could manually submit that in a bug report with "apport-bug /var/crash/<filename>"
[17:52] <bratchley> like Google has Material Design and Red Hat has PatternFly, I was wondering if Canonical had something similar
[17:52] <bratchley> I don't think "ricing" is what I'm looking for
[17:52] <bratchley> just judging from the name
[17:52] <akik> bratchley: maybe https://design.ubuntu.com/ ?
[17:53] <nicomachus> bratchley: ha, it's all about customizing the user interface. different window managers, GTK themes, etc.
[17:53] <toor> Okay, thank you
[17:53] <nicomachus> xangua: thanks for the Paper link... I was looking at a screenshot of someone's desktop with some guys last night and couldn't figure out what it was, this looks like exactly it.
[17:53] <linuxR> TJ-, I'd rather not do that as I don't know what (personal) data might be in that dump...are there any tutorials for debugging this locally?
[17:54] <bratchley> akik: that looks pretty close but I think that's for the whole distro as opposed to just graphical interfaces
[17:54] <daftykins> linuxR: still handy if you could mention which CPU you're using there, for which generation of intel graphics.
[17:55] <bratchley> like PatternFly is "You have a list of entities, you highlight one, a panel should pop up on the right hand side with more details"
[17:55] <bratchley> that sort of thing
[17:56] <akik> bratchley: not sure what you mean but that looks like what you're looking for
[17:56] <linuxR> daftykins, just a second
[17:56] <TJ-> linuxR: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[17:56] <daftykins> grep model /proc/cpuinfo
[17:57] <bratchley> akik: this is PatternFly https://www.patternfly.org and there are also online guides Google have for how to create interfaces that conform to Material Design. That page seems to talk more about how to use the Ubuntu logo and the guiding principles behind the distro itself
[17:58] <bratchley> instead of concrete ideas you should implement in your UI to have it look like an Ubuntu application
[17:58] <bratchley> if that makes sense
[17:58] <linuxR> daftykins, its a intel core2 4300 cpu, and a Intel 82946GZ/GL video controller
[17:58] <linuxR> TJ-, thanks!
[17:59] <daftykins> linuxR: can you paste the direct output (just one line of) of "grep model /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[17:59] <nicomachus> bratchley: seriously, look around here for ideas. the comments always have the config files: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn
[17:59] <daftykins> sounds like it's a haswell though o0
[18:00] <linuxR> daftykins, what's wrong with haswell?
[18:00] <daftykins> there's nothing wrong with it, i'd simply suggest running a newer kernel such as the 3.19 series with the vivid HWE stack to make better use of it on 14.04
[18:00] <bratchley> nicomachus: I'm not looking for how to make the UI look different, I'm more looking for something similar to Material Design where google gives you specific ideas of how your user interface should function.
[18:00] <minas114> Hi. Is WUBI still supported? If I am not mistaken, I read that it would die a few year ago.
[18:01] <daftykins> minas114: it's dead.
[18:01] <daftykins> (and good riddance)
[18:01] <bratchley> Did anything replace it?
[18:01] <daftykins> yes, installing properly :)
[18:01] <bratchley> ha
[18:01] <minas114> daftykins, Ahh. I wanted to put it on a friend's PC so that he can get to learn Linux, but don't want to mess up with his partitions.
[18:02] <daftykins> minas114: virtualbox time then
[18:02] <minas114> daftykins, I'll probably use a VM. yes
[18:02] <daftykins> create a VM and ensure you enable 3D acceleration under graphics, it'll do just fine with full Ubuntu as long as the host has enough RAM
[18:02] <ren0v0> Hi, where should i be asking about LXD?
[18:03] <nicomachus> minas114: FYI, there's an issue with memory leaks in Virtualbox 5.0.10 if you're using integrated Intel graphics. Make sure to pull the latest driver from the intel site, and it'll resolve it
[18:03] <minas114> daftykins, How much RAM will I need for the VM? is 3GB enough?
[18:03] <minas114> nicomachus, thanks for the information, I'll look it up
[18:04] <daftykins> minas114: what does the host system have?
[18:04] <minas114> daftykins, 8GB
[18:04] <daftykins> yeah 3 to the VM would be plenty.
[18:04] <minas114> great
[18:19] <nicomachus> hmm... where does ubuntu store the value for the color of text in a drop-down menu? like from the main power-button menu?
[18:21] <TJ-> nicomachus: mainly that should be defined in the theme
[18:22] <nicomachus> TJ-: https://i.imgur.com/ol0JjS5.jpg
[18:22] <nicomachus> searching through the /usr/share/theme/paper/ directory, but not finding that value... wasn't sure if someone knew another place.
[18:23] <TJ-> nicomachus: Is it Unity? it could be in dconf/gsettings maybe? Always seems opague about user control of such things so not sure
[18:24] <nicomachus> TJ-: it's unity, but I just set a new GTK.... the value is 555753 so I guess I'll just search the directory for that.
[18:25] <mrsam_> i wanna monitor my trrafic data ...which problem is good for this job?
[18:29] <Kartagis> mrtg
[18:29] <Kartagis> mrsam_: ^
[18:30] <Kartagis> oh, try ethereal
[18:30] <Kartagis> mrsam_: ^
 what?
[18:31] <yoasif> hey, im experiencing a nasty btrfs bug that is fixed in the newer stable 4.2 series kernel
[18:32] <yoasif> however, the ubuntu mainline build doesn't build the kernel extras package, so no aufs — no docker
[18:32] <yoasif> i can't find much information on how the stable kernel updates happen
[18:32] <yoasif> (on wily)
[18:34] <TJ-> yoasif: do you have a bug reference for that??
[18:35] <mrsam_> i wanna monitor my trrafic data ...which problem is good for this job? plz help
[18:36] <nicomachus> mrsam_: netstat
[18:36] <yoasif> TJ-: for some reason, it doesn't seem like it's in launchpad, but it was logged in redhat's bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1287508
gui program?
[18:37] <TJ-> yoasif: give me a moment I'll see what I can find
[18:37] <yoasif> TJ-: really appreciate it!
[18:37] <nicomachus> mrsam_: etherape, wireshark, nagios
when  i want open it i see this error Error opening wlp3s0 : wlp3s0: You don't have permission to capture on that device (socket: Operation not permitted)
[18:39] <mrsam_> - perhaps you need to be root?
[18:39] <TJ-> yoasif: there's a btrfs fix in v4.2.8 branch (master-next) but it doesn't look to match the RedHat report: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-wily.git/commit/?h=master-next&id=9e0d373b6959298b9a07cb2975d04a7aac7e0e23
[18:39] <yoasif> TJ-: yes that is one if the fixes
[18:39] <daftykins> mrsam_: yeah you... need to be root.
[18:39] <yoasif> TJ-: this is the other one upstream: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=2c3cf7d5f6105bb957df125dfce61d4483b8742d
[18:40] <daftykins> Kartagis: just FYI it's been called wireshark for a number of years
 i know but how can di it?
[18:40] <daftykins> mrsam_: GUI apps must be run with 'gksu' in order to have the appropriate permission level
[18:41] <daftykins> CLI ones with 'sudo'
[18:41] <TJ-> yoasif: that'll be http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-wily.git/commit/?h=master-next&id=c7c784296cf04c0757f39aa00c77d12a4f2a5548
 so can u see an example to write this command?
[18:41] <yoasif> TJ-: ah right
[18:41] <daftykins> mrsam_: no, you can learn
[18:42] <mrsam_> :|
[18:42] <nicomachus> !gksu | mrsam_
[18:42] <nicomachus> eek, that needs an update...
tnx
[18:42] <TJ-> yoasif: I'm not sure what the kernel-team's schedule will be for the .8 stable release integration over the Winter holidays
[18:42] <slidinghorn> mrsam_: you can also see it in ifconfig  I believe
[18:42] <yoasif> TJ-: whats the general timeline? Is it worth commenting on the LP SRU update bug?
[18:43] <slidinghorn> nevermind...hadn't caught up to the gui request yet.
 tnx
[18:43] <TJ-> yoasif: when someone is in-work tomorrow daytime try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:43] <yoasif> TJ-: thanks, will do!
[18:44] <TJ-> yoasif: this seems to suggest .8 should be released this month: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/ExtendedStable
[18:46] <yoasif> TJ-: I can hope — it's great to not have to deal with the hard lockups (using the mainline builds), but mainline ppa doesn't build extras, so no docker… using it right now just to deal with filesystem related issues
[18:46] <yoasif> makes the machine less useful though, since i was trying to go with a container based machine
[18:47] <TJ-> yoasif: here's the Ubuntu <> mainline kernel version equivalence table http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html
[18:48] <TJ-> yoasif: could you use the Xenial kernel? does it have those patches ?
[18:49] <yoasif> TJ-: once it goes to 4.3, i'd have to upgrade zfs packages as well… too much surgery for a machine i'm trying to keep stable :/
[18:50] <TJ-> yoasif: Ahhh. You could always build the kernel, with the BTRFS patches, in a PPA yourself
[18:51] <nicomachus> yoasif: TJ-: not much sense going to 4.3 anyway if that's the case, because the LTS is going to be release with 4.4 :/
[18:51] <yoasif> TJ-: any chance you have a good howto? and yeah, all i really meant was that the wily zfs packages don't dkms compile with >4.2
[18:52] <anabain> In a nfs /media dir export, how are permissions of this dir to be set? Currently I cannot see its contents at the client side. Permissions for /media dir are:   drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 des 19 02:44 /media/     and for the rbind mounted associated dir:     drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 des 19 02:44 /srv/net/nfs/deuteros/media   . Export options are:  /srv/net/nfs/deuteros          192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,no_root_sq
[18:52] <anabain> uash,crossmnt), and finally, autofs mount at the client side is:     /mnt/net/nfs/deuteros     -fstype=nfs4,auto    deuteros:/
[18:53] <TJ-> yoasif: oh, in that case, I'd just fix the DKMS build failures!
[18:53] <anabain> I want to be able to read and write to the remote /media dir and its subdirs from the client.
[18:53] <kai___> Guys, anybody can help me?
[18:54] <kai___> I can't login into my desktop
[18:54] <kai___> It's just show a black screen with cursor
[18:54] <yoasif> TJ-: hmm, i *could* upgrade to xenial — looks like the patches are there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.3.0-5.14
[18:54] <anabain> BTW, exporting the "original" dirs, not the mounted ones, allows me to read /media subdirs, but I can't write to them, so it must be a permissions issue
[18:54] <TJ-> anabain: With NFS you have to match UIDs, or use idmap
[18:55] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | kai___ Broken proprietary graphic's driver ? :
[18:56] <yoasif> TJ-: i could do a real hackjob, use the xenial kernel and use the zfsonlinux ppa for xenial, then purge that once the SRU appears
[18:56] <kai___> ubottu: thanks, mate.
[18:58] <anabain> TJ-, you mean idmap at the client side? that is,  option   NEED_IDMAPD=yes  in its /etc/default/nfs-common  file  ?
[19:00] <kai___> EriC^: i dont know, i'm still working on it
[19:00] <TJ-> yoasif: I generally find just adding a PATCH[x]="..." to the dkms.conf is much easier, especially as the dkms build.log capture the problems so its quite a quick iteractive process to add support for later kernels
[19:02] <TJ-> anabain: if the original is shared as UID 0 then that is the UID the client must use to access it, or else you need to configure the idmapper
[19:23] <Guest94288> Hi. For create an UEFI compatibile USB drive from Windows, i just need format the USB as FAT32 and copy-paste the file on it?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest8786  are you now in windows or in ubuntu?
[19:25] <JackDD> Windows
[19:25] <ioria> JackDD, why don't you use http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ ?
[19:26] <JackDD> ihave try with rufus but not work so i have think, is not just a FAT32 pendrive or need the boot flag also with UEFI? Because i read uefi don't use the boot flag
[19:27] <daftykins> JackDD: EFI will boot if you just format a flash drive as FAT32 and extract an ISO onto it
[19:27] <daftykins> no need for flags, boot sectors, nothing.
[19:27] <JackDD> So is just a copy-past of a formatted FAT32 right?
[19:27] <ioria> JackDD, from win i always use pendrivelinux ... never complained
[19:28] <JackDD> Thanks ioria but if is just a copy of some file i prefer the manual way, i have loose 20m with rufus for nothing. I'll try that
[19:29] <Mdxxx>  q
[19:29] <ioria> JackDD, ok
[19:29] <Mdxxx> ]
[19:29] <glebihan_> JackDD, copy-pasting the file on the thumb drive will not work
[19:30] <JackDD> glebihan_, daftykins say the opposite lol. Remember is UEFI and not the legacy bios
[19:30] <daftykins> glebihan_: you're wrong i'm afraid
[19:30] <daftykins> <--diplomacy pro
[19:30] <glebihan_> daftykins, you said extracting the ISO onto it, it's different from pasting the file onto the drive
[19:31] <daftykins> yeah, it's not me that's confused about that aspect.
[19:31] <daftykins> JackDD: to be clear, you need to extract the ISO's contents onto the drive, not just paste the ISO on
[19:31] <JackDD> where is the differenct from extract and copy? If i'm mount the ISO and copy the file from that is different?
[19:31] <daftykins> just that you need to use the correct terms to not confuse us really :)
[19:31] <JackDD> Oh lol i know, the content of the ISO
[19:32] <JackDD> sorry for that
[19:32] <daftykins> no problemo
[19:32] <glebihan_> JackDD, what I meant is, copying the ISO file itself won't work
[19:32] <JackDD> Yes, not the ISO itself, just a misunderstadding
[19:33] <JackDD> Well i'll start the copy
[19:33] <JackDD> Thanks guys
[19:36] <blufox83> i'm having some serious issues with my usb thumb drive, it's suddenly locked in read-only mode :(
[19:36] <blufox83> googling has given me no real answers
[19:37] <blufox83> i guess everyone is out to lunch O.o
[19:37] <daftykins> no, we're all here
[19:38] <daftykins> quickest approach is confirm it on other systems with other OSs
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> blufox83  you have waited less than 1 minute
[19:40] <blufox83> daftykins: i have no other systems to use, but i tried it in windows (at someone else's house) and it locked me out and went into read-only mode after just a few minutes
[19:40] <blufox83> MonkeyDust: true, it's been a while
[19:41] <daftykins> blufox83: is it cheap and rubbish?
[19:41] <blufox83> i need to have some patience
[19:41] <daftykins> it'd be interesting to see some output in a pastebin of "mount" ; "sudo parted -l" and so on
[19:41] <blufox83> any-who - i got a 1tb thumb drive, plugged it in and started moving files over to it and BOOM stopped for no reason and said it was read-only!
[19:42] <blufox83> sure sure
[19:42] <daftykins> 1TB o0
[19:42] <nicomachus> a 1tb thumb drive?
[19:42] <daftykins> i sense unit confusion
[19:42] <blufox83> yep
[19:42] <Demon_Jester> hey guys, I has a question, a while back there was a way using grep and dmesg to check if wifi network has mac filtering, and I can't seem to find the full command, any one know what I am talking about?
[19:42] <Demon_Jester> I have*
[19:42] <daftykins> can't you just ask who manages the wifi, Demon_Jester? :P
[19:43] <BluesKaj> probly  1Tb usb connected hdd
[19:43] <Demon_Jester> I have it enabled on one of these old routers, and I was wanting to see how to detect it from my laptop.
[19:43] <daftykins> it'd fail association i would expect
[19:43] <Demon_Jester> daftykins, oh ok, so grep failed association or something like that? hmm should work.
[19:44] <daftykins> 'assoc' maybe
[19:45] <Demon_Jester> ah ok, thanks. it seems mac filtering is not functioning.. hmm i may have done something wrong on the router. ok thank you.
[19:46] <blufox83> that's not cool, it's suddenly not listed when i type mount
[19:46] <blufox83> let me see what in fo i can come up with in a pastebin
[19:46] <nicomachus> blufox83: sounds like it failing.
[19:46] <daftykins> dmesg | tail
[19:46] <nicomachus> it is*
[19:47] <blufox83> daftykins: that worked for an output, is there anything else you'd like to see an output from?
[19:47] <daftykins> blufox83: yep you as to what this device is. they don't make 1TB flash drives :)
[19:48] <blufox83> it's  closed to 985 gb
[19:48] <blufox83> er, it's closer to 985gb
[19:48] <daftykins> i'm asking what it really is, because it sounds like a hard disk in an enclosure which converts SATA to USB.
[19:49] <blufox83> http://pastebin.com/mXxV0Njd
[19:49] <BluesKaj> I bet it's not a thumb drive
[19:49] <blufox83> it's a thumb drive...an actual thumb drive
[19:50] <daftykins> what make is it?
[19:51] <daftykins> still awaiting the pastebin with the commands i mentioned would be handy from 10 mins ago
[19:52] <blufox83> https://www.wish.com/c/55b10a0792e7b25d3962b9e2?th_s=1&rel_p=1&abs_p=1&original_q=1tb  <---the iutem in question
[19:52] <blufox83> item
[19:53] <blufox83> http://pastebin.com/mXxV0Njd
[19:53] <blufox83> that should help
[19:53] <daftykins> that's the same paste as before
[19:54] <nicomachus> "sign up to view details about this product" >:(
[19:54] <blufox83> i already have an account...
[19:54] <nicomachus> we don't.
[19:55] <blufox83> what information would you like to see?
[19:55] <daftykins> blufox83: can you make a paste of the requested "sudo parted -l" please as asked 12 mins ago
[19:55] <daftykins> "mount" would also be nice
[19:55] <blufox83> daftykins: certainly, one momnent please
[19:56] <TJ-> blufox83: I've seen a common issue with USB bridged flash storage devices as they get bigger. The aren't designed to cope with sustained data transfers - specifically the USB <> SATA bridge chip overheats and fails.
[19:57] <blufox83> http://pastebin.com/hRhbTjt6
[19:57] <blufox83> TJ-: aww..that sucks D:
[19:57] <nicomachus> $10 for 1TB USB? It's garbage.
[19:57] <daftykins> nicomachus: that's what the linked site claims? O_O
[19:57] <blufox83> it worked for a little while...like 20 minutes
[19:57] <TJ-> blufox83: have you done a pastebin for the 'dmesg' output yet?
[19:57] <daftykins> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/mXxV0Njd
[19:58] <blufox83> TJ-: yeah the first one i posted was dmesg
[19:58] <nicomachus> daftykins: https://imgur.com/hYWr0Gu
[19:58] <TJ-> blufox83: I'mm scroll back
[19:58] <blufox83> i seem to have horrible luck with mass storage options :(
[19:58] <nicomachus> blufox83: if the price seems too good to be true, it is.
[19:59] <blufox83> i bought a 1tb western digital sata drive last year, it lasted about a month :(
[19:59] <nicomachus> blufox83: a good 1TB USB drive is about $750.
[19:59] <blufox83> and that was like 400 bucks :(
[19:59] <nicomachus> blufox83: a good external 1TB Hard Drive is about $100
[19:59] <blufox83> ooooh
[19:59] <blufox83> it was an internal one
[20:00] <nicomachus> $400 for a hard drive?
[20:00] <blufox83> stupid thing has about 90 gigs of data and keeps crashing the box it's on D:
[20:00] <TJ-> blufox83:  "Direct-Access     Generic  Flash Disk" surprised me. I'd expect a premium product like that to have a dedicated device name programmed into its firmware
[20:01] <blufox83> yeah i got it on sale or something, i don't recall the specifics
[20:02] <blufox83> TJ-: it did, but after it crashed the first time i formatted it, and tried renaming it...that held for about 3.8gigs, then it crashed saying it was read-only
[20:02] <nicomachus> blufox83: 1TB internal for $48.10: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DM003/dp/B005T3GRNW
[20:02] <TJ-> blufox83: This is from someone else with one: " Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS"
[20:03] <blufox83> nicomachus: thanks, that just depresses me, i don't have 50 bucks right now...lol
[20:03] <TJ-> blufox83: which all suggests the USB bridge has failed; its possible that somehow the firmware has reset to some default mode, but you'll need to talk to the manufacturer support
[20:03] <blufox83> but thanks for the link, i'll save it!
[20:04] <blufox83> TJ-: thanks, unfortunately i think it's going to be one of those times i just toss it...cus i don't speak mandarin
[20:04] <nolsen> How do I disable the unity launcher?
[20:04] <nolsen> and replace it with a dock.
[20:04] <daftykins> would make more sense to use another DE...
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  install cairo-dock, logout, switch, login
[20:05] <blufox83> nolsen: honestly i'd recommend something else like gnome...
[20:05] <nicomachus> nolsen: it can't be disabled. you can make it auto-hide and use a dock like cairo-dock, or switch DE as daftykins says
[20:05]  * blufox83 prefers gnome
[20:06] <blufox83> well thanks anyways folks, i know it's not your fault the news is all bad. thanks for your time though.
[20:07] <daftykins> np
[20:07] <blufox83> i happen to love ubuntu because of it's community :)
[20:07] <blufox83> also, cus it's freakin awesome ;)
[20:08] <TJ-> blufox83: I'd bet that the device is only about 64GB and is wrapping around when writing data to it
[20:08] <blufox83> TJ-: it's currently only saying that it's in read-only mode and wont even let me format it..so i'm gonna call it toast
[20:08] <TJ-> blufox83: looking at that web-page (I had to use developer tools to Kill all those popups/overlays) - definitely suspicious. 1TB on a USB 1.1/2.0 interface? no way
[20:09] <blufox83> the wierd thing is that when i use hdparm to change it from read only mode, it says that it works...but then you can't add to it or format it or anything, it still says it's read-only
[20:09] <linuxr_> hello everybody..I am a little worried about the current state of ubuntu...this weekend I had severe crashes on 3 different machines (2x xorg segfault, 1x system freeze when unplugging usb stick)....after having used ubuntu for *years* without any problems..what's going on?
[20:09] <daftykins> blufox83: parted's output shows it has a partition but no file system
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> linuxr_  an LTS?
[20:10] <blufox83> daftykins: yeah, i was in the middle of writing it to ext3
[20:10] <linuxr_> MonkeyDust, yes all current LTEs
[20:10] <blufox83> it got far enough to erase the FS, then it refused any more writing
[20:10] <TJ-> blufox83: the specs really give it away. It's fake, old stock: "Support Win98/ME/2000/XP/Vista/7, Mac OS 9.X/Linux2.4 without device drive"
[20:11] <daftykins> blufox83: can you show us what the physical thing looks like? :)
[20:11] <ioria> group
[20:11] <OerHeks> linuxr_, a server with xorg?desktop crash on your server?
[20:11] <blufox83> uh..i suppose
[20:11] <blufox83> not sure how i should do that though O.o
[20:11] <linuxr_> OerHeks, no, desktops
[20:12] <OerHeks> linuxr_, oh oke, check te logs in /var/log/ and in your homefolder,might give you a clue
[20:14] <linuxr_> OerHeks, for the xorg problem I found some other people having issues as well (something with intel video drivers), and for the unplug-problem I have absolutely nothing in the logs, which makes me a bit uncomfortable
[20:14] <blufox83> is there someplace i should upload a pic to?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> blufox83  imgur
[20:16] <anabain> TJ-, I forgot to say that I can access my remote /home/user dir with rw permissions. Then, if I cannot access the remote /media dir, is still a matter of idmap ?
[20:17] <TJ-> anabain: yes, if the UIDs are different. The same username can have different UIDs on different systems
[20:17] <blufox83> i am totally crap at this...i put it in my google drive and i can't access it to put it on imgur lol
[20:17] <blufox83> because there's no google drive for linux....laaaaaame
[20:18] <nicomachus> use the internet site?
[20:18] <anabain> TJ-, client:   joan:x:1000:     server:     joan:x:1000:
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> blufox83  system settings > online accounts > google    <-- useful?
[20:20] <anabain> TJ-, I tried fsid=1000 instead of fsid=0 in the exports file, same result
[20:20] <blufox83> MonkeyDust: i'm using gnome..so...not really
[20:20] <OerHeks> !info grive
[20:20] <blufox83> and the pic is so aweful you can barely tell what it is..my bad guys
[20:20] <TJ-> blufox83: here's a more realistic advert for the same device you linked to on that wish.com site: http://e-voxtera.com.my/product-1315121.html
[20:21] <TJ-> blufox83: notice how the specifications text is identical, but the max size is 32GB
[20:22] <blufox83> yeah uh...so mine is the blue one
[20:22] <blufox83> in the pic you posted
[20:22] <blufox83> aaaaand, mine wont work when i plug it into my phone..it never did
[20:22] <donatello673> would love to get my PC to boot linux (or any OS at all at this point). it hangs with a blinking underscore in the top left of the screen at boot. if anyone can help i'd be grateful. :)
[20:23] <TJ-> blufox83: lesson: if it looks too good to be true, it is
[20:23] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | donatello673 this is usually the first thing to try
[20:23] <blufox83> donatello673: laptop or desktop?
[20:23] <TJ-> blufox83: try to get your money back, it's fraud pure and simple
[20:23] <donatello673> blufox83: desktop
[20:23] <blufox83> TJ-: wish actually has no method for getting money back
[20:24] <ioria> blufox83, have you tried to format it in windows ?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> donatello673  http://ultilex.linux-bg.org/
[20:24] <blufox83> ioria: yeah uh...even less success
[20:25] <donatello673> nicomachus: i've initially tried to install trisquel (which installed) and since it didn't boot, I tried ubuntu and others. But it still says trisquel no matter what's on the USB.
[20:25] <linuxr_> can somebody tell me how to remove old kernels? I have the nice situation that boot partition is filled with old kernels so update to new kernel is not possible
[20:25] <ioria> blufox83, what happened ?
[20:25] <linuxr_> apparently I have data in /boot for which the package was already removed
[20:25] <blufox83> ioria: it didn't know what to do with it.
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> linuxr_  try sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo aptitude purge ~c
[20:26] <blufox83> in any event, i'm gonna toss it. i can't fix it
[20:26] <daftykins> linuxr_: "dpkg -l | grep linux-" then use "sudo dpkg -r <-extra package name,> <-image package name) to clear old ones out with the 'ii' beside.
[20:26] <donatello673> also, nicomachus , in order to edit the grub I need a username/password that I don't recall
[20:26] <SchrodingersScat> linuxr_: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-{version to remove} ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get -f install
[20:26] <blufox83> i've tried literally everything every single result on the boards has said to try
[20:27] <daftykins> blufox83: if you really did only pay $10 then yeah, i'd give up
[20:27] <linuxr_> when I do "apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.13.0-65-generic", I get "Package 'linux-image-3.13.0-65-generic' is not installed, so not removed"
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> linuxr_  try sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo aptitude purge ~c
[20:28] <linuxr_> but "ls -lah /boot/" says: "-rw-r--r--  1 root root  29M Okt 20 22:11 initrd.img-3.13.0-65-generic"
[20:28] <ioria> blufox83, you mean, it does not even show in Computer  ?
[20:28] <blufox83> daftykins: yeah, that included shipping. I figured from the start that it was either total BS or i might have found a cheap thumb drive worth having, but i figured i'd be lucky if it even worked at all
[20:28] <linuxr_> that didn't help, MonkeyDust
[20:28] <blufox83> ioria: honestly that was hours ago at someone else's house. I mostly recall it failing while i was trying to use it to back up their windows installation
[20:29] <blufox83> donatello673: when you start the machine does it just not post anything?
[20:29] <donatello673> blufox83: it does post
[20:29] <donatello673> let me reset and repeati t
[20:29] <blufox83> donatello673: does it make it to grub?
[20:29] <donatello673> it goes straight to the grub
[20:30] <donatello673> then it prints 2 lines (one of them is loading OS_name)
[20:30] <blufox83> ok, well does it show anything after that, or does it just go blank and have a blinking cursor?
[20:30] <donatello673> since trisquel was what i initially installed, trisquel is what shows up. despite ubuntu on my USB
[20:30] <donatello673> blinking cursor
[20:30] <ioria> blufox83, you can try to nuke it with dd and try to format it in Disks
[20:30] <blufox83> ioria: it wont work, says it's read only
[20:31] <blufox83> donatello673: are you booting entirely from usb or from HD?
[20:31] <ioria> blufox83, try to mount it  manually rw....
[20:31] <donatello673> donatello673: it's supposed to boot from USB, I set it in boot order
[20:31] <donatello673> blufox83: *
[20:31] <blufox83> ioria: yeah uh...says it's a read-only file system
[20:32] <blufox83> O.o
[20:32] <donatello673> .....
[20:32] <donatello673> blufox83:
[20:33] <blufox83> hrm...so it goes to grub...that shouldn't happen if you are actually booting into usb
[20:33] <donatello673> i had changed the boot order before, but i just checked and had to change it again. now ubuntu install GUI is up. so thank you!!!!!
[20:33] <ioria> blufox83, try dosfsck -a /dev/sdx1
[20:34] <blufox83> donatello673: believe it or not, just asking questions about what you are doing can be enough to help figure it out. and you're very welcome :)
[20:35] <daftykins> linuxr_: you have to match against "dpkg -l | grep linux" as i suggested :)
[20:35] <blufox83> fsck.fat 3.0.27 (2014-11-12)
[20:35] <blufox83> Logical sector size is zero.
[20:35] <blufox83> ioria: that's what your command gave me
[20:37] <ioria> blufox83, maybe you need to recreate the PT
[20:37] <Ben64> blufox83: so you got a 1TB flash drive for how much?
[20:37] <blufox83> ioria: nah, i'm pretty sure it's just cheap junk. thank you for trying to help, but pretty sure it's toast
[20:37] <blufox83> Ben64: $10.00
[20:37] <ioria> blufox83, cfdisk
[20:38] <Ben64> yep, fake flash drive
[20:38] <Ben64> no way to repair, they misrepresented the actual size
[20:39] <linuxr_> I don't understand daftykins
[20:39] <linuxr_> daftykins, all these dpkg results have status "rc"
[20:39] <donatello673> blufox83: i'm trying to work out how to format these partitions because half the disk is allocated to trisquel. not sure how to fix that
[20:40] <Ben64> linuxr_: rc = residual config, the package isn't installed though
[20:40] <blufox83> donatello673: do you WANT it to be that way, or would you like ubuntu to take up everything?
[20:40] <donatello673> i'll try googling :p
[20:40] <linuxr_> Ben64, so why do I have data in /boot for a package which is not installed (anymore), and how can I get rid of it without breaking anything?
[20:40] <donatello673> blufox83: i'll give up trisquel for now and use ubuntu. so I want to get rid of it.
[20:41] <Ben64> linuxr_: what size is your /boot partition?, which files are there that are not installed, taking how much space?, which kernel are you running now?, which version of ubuntu?
[20:41] <blufox83> donatello673: ok then, during the ubuntu installation process it'll ask you if you'd like ubuntu to take up all the space, just choose that as the option
[20:41] <donatello673> blufox83: i have windows though
[20:42] <donatello673> and i figured it'd be handy to keep it
[20:42] <Abe> hello
[20:42] <blufox83> donatello673: ok, so then it should see windows, you can choose which partition to use..just use the one with the other linux OS
[20:43] <donatello673> i'm guessing i'm supposed to select fat32 system
[20:43] <blufox83> ioria: uh..i used cfdisk and it says it wrote to the partition
[20:43] <donatello673> i'm not sure how to configure it
[20:43] <linuxr_> Ben64, /boot is ~240MB, there seem to be images installed 3.13.0-63 - 3.13.0-66, taking over 100MB of space....it's ubuntu 14.04 lts
[20:43] <blufox83> donatello673: not really any configuration involved...just tell it which partition to use...it will even show you what is on which partition
[20:44] <donatello673> i'm able to click "Change"
[20:44] <donatello673> which asks me to pick a file system. i'm not sure which type of file system
[20:44] <donatello673> and it asks for a mount point. I don't see a "delete" button
[20:44] <blufox83> you don't need a delete button
[20:45] <donatello673> hm.
[20:45] <Ben64> linuxr_: sudo apt-get autoremove should clear it up
[20:45] <blufox83> use ext4, use the entire partition that the other linux is using
[20:45] <linuxr_> Ben64, no..."0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[20:45] <Gryfelhas> hi, i have a question about the LTS version... after the 5 years support... will there still be new browserupdates ?
[20:45] <deftjack> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, apt-get upgrade is failing with a log of unable to fetch files. I have checked and the files its trying to get off ubuntu.com do not exist. Does something need to be changed for the sources on this version of ubuntu? http://fpaste.org/303572/14506443/
[20:47] <Ben64> linuxr_: ok then, pastebin the output of "df -h; ls -hoSr /boot"
[20:47] <blufox83> ok, i'm gonna run folks...thanks for trying to help me out
[20:47] <clueless_tablete> Hi, something is assigning a route for destination 169.254.0.0 to a second network interface on my computer when I ifup that interface.  I just want to configure it statically.
[20:47] <blufox83> donatello673: i hope i helped point you in the right way
[20:47] <blufox83> er, direction
[20:48] <Ben64> deftjack: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:48] <donatello673> blufox83: thanks very much!
[20:48] <clueless_tablete> But it seems it's not avahi, nor dnsmasq dhcp'ing it, since I killed those
[20:48] <clueless_tablete> so how come ifup eth1 creates that route?
[20:48] <daftykins> linuxr_: then you shouldn't still have them, so either pastebin the output along with "ls -al /boot" or remove them manually :)
[20:48] <deftjack> clueless_tablete: Those are auto assigned ips. Its used in situations where there is no ip given or available via the likes of DHCP, ec.
[20:48] <deftjack> etc
[20:49] <linuxr_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/6e7S7JRn
[20:49] <clueless_tablete> deftjack, assigned by what?
[20:49] <deftjack> Ben64: Im not very familiar with apt-get but wont that last one upgrade the OS version?
[20:49] <deftjack> clueless_tablete: By your system. Whatever brings up the interfaces or an associated process.
[20:49] <deftjack> clueless_tablete: You can turn if off in the network configuration files.
[20:49] <Ben64> deftjack: no
[20:50] <clueless_tablete> deftjack: ok, well, that's my question I guess: what exactly is doing that and how can I stop it
[20:50] <Ben64> linuxr_: dpkg -l | grep linux
[20:51] <Ben64> clueless_tablete: give it an ip address
[20:51] <clueless_tablete> I don't remember this particular issue happening in the past (though I do remember avahi, networkmanager etc. messing with statically configured interfaces that they claim they don't mess with for... what, almost a decade now?)
[20:51] <deftjack> clueless_tablete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address  Here you can find out more about APIPA.
[20:51] <linuxr_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/i4CgVbAP
[20:51] <deftjack> Ben64: Thanks Ill give it a try.
[20:52] <clueless_tablete> deftjack: I already did give it an IP
[20:52] <clueless_tablete> it is statically configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:53] <Ben64> linuxr_: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{32..68}-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-{32..68}-generic
[20:54] <deftjack> clueless_tablete: That seems odd. I dont recall where in ubuntu(not my linux fortay) but you can disable it.  Probably in /etc/networks/interfaces
[20:54] <clueless_tablete> any idea how?
[20:54] <Ben64> by assigning it an ip.
[20:55] <deftjack> Thats why I say its seems odd. clueless_tablete says they have assigned it an ip already.
[20:55] <clueless_tablete> Ben64, : when the interface has an IP, it has the route.  When it does not have an IP, it does not have the route
[20:55] <Ben64> then why using ifup
[20:55] <akik> clueless_tablete: did you stop network-manager from running?
[20:55] <clueless_tablete> Ben64: ah, that may be a great question, maybe I'm bringing it up with the wrong tool
[20:56] <Caleb--> is there a way to save & restore Nautilus windows and tabs?
[20:56] <clueless_tablete> akik: no didn't try that yet, I kind of expected that to kill my internet connection
[20:57] <akik> clueless_tablete: i could be wrong, but you can't have both network-manager and interfaces files configuring your network
[20:57] <daftykins> ^ +1
[20:57] <clueless_tablete> Ben64: looking at the manpage for ifup I think I am using the right tool?  No IP assigned -> run ifup -> IP now assigned (but I have the route too)
[20:58] <clueless_tablete> akik: Pretty sure that's wrong, I remember from back in around 2008 that NM was supposed to leave unmanaged all interfaces that are configured interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces -- and NM indeed reports it as unmanaged
[20:59] <clueless_tablete> but *something* thinks it should have its grubby hands in my routing table
[20:59] <daftykins> you misread akik.
[20:59] <daftykins> if you're specifying config in the interfaces file, the interface should be up at boot
[21:00] <clueless_tablete> daftykins: are you sugesting that NM is adding the route, and that a reboot would cause NM to stop doing that?
[21:00] <linuxr_> Ben64, that did not free any space
[21:00] <akik> clueless_tablete: do you have a dhclient process for some interface?
[21:00] <daftykins> i'm not talking about routes at all.
[21:00] <Ben64> linuxr_: can you pastebin the output
[21:00] <clueless_tablete> no dhclients
[21:01] <clueless_tablete> akik: oops, I lied, there is one
[21:01] <clueless_tablete> akik: it's for other interface though
[21:01] <clueless_tablete> not the statically configured one
[21:02] <linuxr_> Ben64, like this: http://pastebin.com/xT1aUEBZ
[21:02] <clueless_tablete> (I'm talking about dhclient process -- I have exactly one, but it is for the network interface connected to internet, not the other interface)
[21:02] <Chairani> hi
[21:02] <akik> clueless_tablete: i'd suggest disabling network-manager and testing only with the interfaces file. you know a lot changes from 2008 to 2015
[21:02] <Ben64> linuxr_: not seeing a problem, except you typed the wrong command, and it says its going to remove that one package
[21:02] <linuxr_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/t6KxGJci
[21:03] <clueless_tablete> daftykins: ok.  I don't understand what you said about boot then, sorry if I'm being dumb
[21:03] <linuxr_> Ben64, I had to remove them individually
[21:03] <mrsam_> i have ubuntu...how can i intall fedora alongside it?
[21:03] <daftykins> mrsam_: you're in the wrong place for that
[21:05] <akik> i just noticed i have a route similar to your's (169.254.0.0) for my wlan0 interface that is configured in interfaces file
[21:05] <daftykins> that's APIPA.
[21:06] <akik> so i get apipa in addition to the real ip that comes from the dhcp server?
[21:07] <daftykins> nah APIPA is typically when no DHCP servers are reached
[21:07] <linuxr_> Ben64, why is the data in /boot not removed for the old kernels? what am I doing wrong?
[21:07] <TJ-> akik daftykins clueless_tablete its assigned by avahi: see /etc/avahi/avahi-autoipd.action
[21:08] <MWM> Im having trouble making a live image of Lubuntu 15.10 with LiLi .  Ive tried 3 different usb sticks, and am going to try getting the image again.  Any other suggestions?
[21:09] <clueless_tablete> ok, I tried disabling network-manager, and I STILL get the 169.254.0.0 route when I ifup my static IP non-internet interface!  Grrr.  This is with none of following running: dhclient, dnsmasq, NetworkManager, avahi
[21:09] <akik> i never learned what i get from running avahi
[21:09] <TJ-> clueless_tablete: it's enabled via /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd
[21:10] <clueless_tablete> TJ: I saw the behaviour when it wasn't running
[21:10] <clueless_tablete> so it's not avahi
[21:10] <daftykins> MWM: hash the image and use 'dd' to write it, if you're on a Linux host.
[21:10] <TJ-> clueless_tablete: there's no "running" required
[21:11] <clueless_tablete> TJ: how can it have any behaviour unless there is an OS process?  Avahi is a userspace thing, no?
[21:11] <TJ-> clueless_tablete: avahi-autopid assigns a link-local address to only the 'lo' interface
[21:11] <clueless_tablete> or are you referring to the protocol(s)?
[21:11] <TJ-> clueless_tablete: no, as I told you, it is assigned by /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autopid
[21:12] <akik> i have a eth0 with no cable connected, set to dhcp "avahi-autoipd: [eth0] bound 169.254.10.27"
[21:12] <clueless_tablete> ah, got it, short-lived process, thankyou!
[21:13] <clueless_tablete> I had forgotten all about if-up.d, which is a great thing about NM I guess
[21:13] <TJ-> I mistyped. "...only the non 'lo' interfaces..."
[21:13] <MWM> daftykins: I can switch to a linux box and understand dd, but how do I "hash the image" ?
[21:13] <deftjack> Ben64: Thanks! That did the trick for the updates.
[21:13] <daftykins> !md5 | MWM
[21:15] <MWM> thanks
[21:17] <Guest52390> Hello everyone!
[21:18] <godbod>  hello all, what's the last version of Ubuntu ?
[21:18] <Ben64> 15.10
[21:18] <godbod>  Thanks a lot
[21:18] <nicomachus> godbod: 15.10 is the latest release, 14.04 is the latest LTS
[21:19] <TJ-> MWM: if you want to check the (SHA1) hash of the image written to a USB device I have a script for that: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hash-check_dev-from-ISO.bash
[21:19] <godbod>  oh yeah I should have said the last stable
[21:19] <godbod>  so it's 14.04 then LTS
[21:19] <bgeer> where can i get a kernel with only new modules and drivers, eg. the last 5 years
[21:19] <xen4a> what's the equivalent bash command "DISPLAY=:7 firefox" in bourne shell (sh)?
[21:19] <Ben64> bgeer: what?
[21:19] <TJ-> bgeer: any Ubuntu release
[21:20] <TJ-> xen4a: same
[21:20] <nicomachus> godbod: 15.10 is stable. LTS just means long-term support (supported for 5 years)
[21:20] <bgeer> i dont mean a kernel with drivers from the last 30 years!
[21:20] <Guest45499> helo
[21:20] <bgeer> only the last 5
[21:20] <xen4a> TJ-: no it's not. sh says: DISPLAY=:7: Command not found
[21:21] <TJ-> bgeer: ask your strange question in ##kernel
[21:21] <akik> xen4a: if you're using ubuntu, sh = dash
[21:21] <k1l_> bgeer: compile it yourself
[21:21] <xen4a> dash stays for Debian Almquist Shell and not bourne shell (sh)
[21:22] <akik> xen4a: although the same syntax works for /bin/dash too
[21:22] <simonpe^^> Hi! I somehow messed up my encryption keys for my home folder when (ironically) moving over all my work to SVN as a first (but very late) commit. No I cant decrypt it. HELP! What do I do?
[21:22] <TJ-> xen4a: "export DISPLAY=:7; firefox" or "firefox -display ..." possibly
[21:23] <simonpe^^> I`m looking forward to about a week of gathering bits and pieces to puzzle together if I cant manage to fix it
[21:23] <xen4a> akik: fine, but i don't use dash ;)
[21:23] <k1l_> xen4a: but?
[21:23] <simonpe^^> The last thing I did before it broke was playing around with my keyring for signing deb packages
[21:23] <xen4a> Bourne Shell is the old school sh
[21:24] <xen4a> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_shell
[21:24] <TJ-> xen4a: Ubuntu doesn't have a Bourne Shell package
[21:24] <k1l_> xen4a: ubuntu standard is dash and bash. so why "sh"?
[21:25] <TJ-> simonpe^^: encryption keys for encrypted $HOME do you mean?
[21:25] <simonpe^^> TJ-, yes dear TJ
[21:26] <simonpe^^> im not sure what I did but all of the sudden gpg --list-keys was empty and my home folder unaccessible
[21:26] <TJ-> simonpe^^: So it is using ecryptfs, and the encrypted files are under /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/Private/ ?
[21:26] <TJ-> simonpe^^: Oh... sounds like you moved, not copied, the content
[21:26] <simonpe^^> TJ-, yes I find some weird looking files in there
[21:27] <TJ-> simonpe^^: the unwrap passphrase is the user's password, unless the password has been changed manually rather than with the tools that know to sync it to the ecryptfs wrapper
[21:27] <simonpe^^> in /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.Private there are files called ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.xxxxxxx...
[21:28] <TJ-> simonpe^^: right, that is where the user's home really is. When it is unlocked it is mounted to /home/$USER/
[21:28] <simonpe^^> ok
[21:28] <TJ-> simonpe^^: so, if there's currently next to nothing in /home/$USER/ that suggests the encrypted home hasn't been unlocked and mounted
[21:29] <simonpe^^> mounting it doesnt seeem to work tho, it complains about ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[21:29] <simonpe^^> yes, it seems like it failed to mount during boot
[21:29] <TJ-> simonpe^^: so whatever you did with the SVN process sounds to have broken it
[21:29] <TJ-> simonpe^^: did you alter any directory/file permissions?
[21:30] <simonpe^^> yes, I tried to generate keys but got complaints about not having access to $HOME/.gnupgp
[21:30] <TJ-> simonpe^^: just FYI, the _FNEK_ in those filenames tells you the filenames, as well as the file contents, are encrypted. The filenames use a different key to the files themselves
[21:31] <TJ-> simonpe^^: gnupg has nothing to do with ecryptfs
[21:31] <simonpe^^> hmmm
[21:31] <simonpe^^> what do you suggest I do to troubleshoot?
[21:31] <TJ-> simonpe^^: are you currently using the problem PC to chat to us?
[21:32] <simonpe^^> no this is my private PC, the laptop with the issues is in my lay
[21:32] <simonpe^^> lap
[21:32] <simonpe^^> I managed to arrange a network connection to it with wpa_supplicant to salvage what wasnt in my home folder
[21:33] <TJ-> simonpe^^: OK, so we can do things on the problem PC without affecting this IRC session. Good.
[21:33] <simonpe^^> (Y)
[21:33] <TJ-> simonpe^^: first of all, boot the laptop in recovery mode and to a root shell
[21:35] <simonpe^^> TJ ok Im in a root shell in recovery mode
[21:36] <TJ-> simonpe^^: ok, be aware that right now the root file-system is mounted read-only so we can't accidentically make changes. That might make some commands return unexpected results.
[21:36] <simonpe^^> TJ I see
[21:37] <TJ-> simonpe^^: first off, list the files in the user's home directory, including 'hidden' dirs/files, and give me an overview of what you see: "ls -altr /home/simon/"
[21:38] <TJ-> simonpe^^: I expect you to see this, or slightly less: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14120884/
[21:38] <simonpe^^> .Private -> /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.private, .ecryptfs -> /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.ecryptfs, README.txt -> /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.ecryptfs Acces-Your-Private-Data.desktop -> /usr-share-ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop
[21:39] <simonpe^^> TJ correct, pretty much the same
[21:40] <TJ-> simonpe^^: OK, so now let's try unlocking the encrypted files to a temporary mount point: "ecryptfs-recover-private /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.Private/" and follow the on-screen prompts *carefully*
[21:41] <TJ-> simonpe^^: if you get a 'read-only' error/warning we can do "mount -o remount,rw /" to make the root file-system read-write
[21:41] <ctlaltdel> help my monitor crashing
[21:41] <simonpe^^> TJ lol, that string I was supposed to write on a note?
[21:41] <simonpe^^> that`s what its asking for?
[21:42] <simonpe^^> I think I made a mental note to write it down at some point, but never came around to do it
[21:42] <TJ-> No, the first thing it expects is your user's standard login password. Only if you say you have forgetten that will it ask for the key
[21:42] <simonpe^^> ok
[21:42] <TJ-> simonpe^^: the user's login password is used to 'wrap' the real key
[21:42] <simonpe^^> then it said faileid to create dir via template /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXXXX
[21:42] <simonpe^^> ro-filesystem
[21:43] <TJ-> right, remount it as I showed then
[21:43] <TJ-> then rerun the command
[21:43] <ctlaltdel> help my monitor corrupted
[21:44] <simonpe^^> just mount -o remount,ro?
[21:44] <TJ-> simonpe^^: "mount -o remount,rw / "
[21:44] <simonpe^^> ok so it managed to mount it
[21:44] <simonpe^^> in /tmp/ecryptfs.blabla
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> !details | ctlaltdel
[21:45] <MWM> trying to use a live image of Lubuntu 15.10 - finally got the image to boot but now I vant access anything --even terminal
[21:45] <simonpe^^> TJ I see lots of weird filenames in there
[21:45] <TJ-> simonpe^^: So now you can look at the files under /mtmp/ecryptfs.XXXX/, or you can continue on and do "mount --bind /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX /home/simon " and see them in the usual location
[21:46] <TJ-> simonpe^^: how are they 'weird' ?
[21:46] <simonpe^^> wait a sec, Im getting Could not find key with description: [blablabla]
[21:46] <simonpe^^> and
[21:46] <MWM> *cant
[21:46] <ctlaltdel> MonkeyDust: I ubuntu 15.04, but when firefox tabs many got crashing
[21:46] <simonpe^^> ecryptfs_parse_tag_70_packet: Error attempting to find auth tok for fnek sig [eoueou]
[21:47] <simonpe^^> TJ I get this when I ls
[21:47] <simonpe^^> it also contains the ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED files
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> ctlaltdel  so it's not your monitor, it's firefox
[21:49] <ctlaltdel> you know tv no channel picture? it looks like that then reboot
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> ctlaltdel  that's hard to understand ... what is your native language?
[21:49] <MWM> hashed the image and used dd to put on a usb stick so I know the md5 checks out
[21:50] <TJ-> simonpe^^: ahhh! OK, I know the issue there; kernel keyring, and a bug in ecryptfs
[21:50] <ctlaltdel> MonkeyDust: english
[21:50] <TJ-> simonpe^^: let's unmount and redo it: "umount /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX"
[21:51] <TJ-> simonpe^^: then "keyctl link @u @s" (links the user keyring into the session keyring)
[21:52] <TJ-> simonpe^^: then redo "ecryptfs-recover-private /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.Private/ " again. If there are warnings/errors let me know
[21:52] <ctlaltdel> help support my monitor
[21:53] <ubuntu571> Hello, I'm wondering if someone can help me with a broadband issue please?
[21:53] <simonpe^^> TJ unfortunately I get the same behaviour
[21:53] <TJ-> simonpe^^: OK, so the filenames haven't been decrypted
[21:53] <MWM> just say your question unbuntu571
[21:54] <TJ-> simonpe^^: we can guess which files are which by size, hopefully, so you can verify the contents are decrypted
[21:54] <MWM> ubuntu571: if anyone knows how to help they will
[21:54] <simonpe^^> I have a file which is exactly 700MB somewhere in there, which is a tarball
[21:55] <ubuntu571> After I configure my broadband connection, I can not connect to it, because it is "unavailable" according to gnome applet (I'm using Ubuntu gnome 15.10 and the modem is Huawei E1752)
[21:56] <ubuntu571> Ok, thank you :) !
[21:57] <TJ-> simonpe^^: "ls -laSr /tmp/ecryptfs.XXX" will sort and list by size, increasing
[21:57] <ctlaltdel> please my monitor is corrupted with more than 60 tabs on firefox I think it ram issue
[21:58] <TJ-> ctlaltdel: tell Firefox to close. From a remote SSH terminal you should be able to do "DISPLAY=:0 pkill -TERM firefox"
[22:00] <simonpe^^> TJ what I can see is 5 directories
[22:00] <MWM> "incompatible liscence" when trying to boot from live usb made in linux
[22:00] <simonpe^^> TJ some are 4k, one is 20k, not sure why it differs
[22:00] <ctlaltdel> TJ-: I would but I can't click and can't type
[22:01] <DosTuMai> Stupid question: Why do people always blame RAM, not their actions?
[22:01] <TJ-> ctlaltdel: I said use a remote SSH terminal connection
[22:02] <TJ-> simonpe^^: OK, that sounds like the undecrypted sizes. compare with "ls -laSr /home/.ecryptfs/simon/.Private/" to confirm
[22:03] <anabain> ubuntu571, you should open a terminal and make some basic checking tests: sudo ping 8.8.8.8 (to test your internet connection), sudo ping 192.168.1.1 (to test your router)
[22:04] <MWM> I checked the hash of my lubuntu image and copied to USB with dd , but cant access anything inside the liveOS (not even terminal or Install)
[22:05] <TJ-> MWM: do you mean the USB image boots but there's an incomplete desktop?
[22:05] <simonpe^^> TJ Im afraid the sizes are the same, and i get input/output error when trying to cat a random file with cat $(find . -type f -size +200k | tail -n 1)
[22:05] <MWM> TJ:  the image boots to a full desktop, but I cannot open terminal or access ANYTHING else.
[22:05] <simonpe^^> TJ says that I dont have read permissions
[22:05] <ctlaltdel> TJ-: how increase memory?
[22:05] <anabain> ubuntu571, 192.168.1.1 or the actual IP's router (could be 192.168.0.1, etc.)
[22:05] <TJ-> simonpe^^: uh-oh! That sounds like a possible disk failure. Check 'dmesg' for I/O errors
[22:06] <TJ-> ctlaltdel: increase memory? plug in more RAM modules?
[22:06] <ubuntu571> anabain, I'm running "dist-upgrade", as soon as it finishes I will turn off wifi, use the broadband modem and try, but please note that I doesn't connect at all, so I don't think I will have any response to ping 8.8.8.8
[22:06] <ctlaltdel> TJ-: other choice?
[22:07] <TJ-> ubuntu571: Huawwei E1752 - isn't that a cellular modem?
[22:07] <ubuntu571> TJ- , Yes
[22:07] <TJ-> ctlaltdel: as I said, if the screen is corrupted you'd need to access via a remote connection. Have you tried to get a to console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[22:07] <anabain> ubuntu571, yes, that's what you should expect
[22:08] <TJ-> ubuntu571: does network manager/modem manager report the cellular device as present?
[22:08] <TJ-> ubuntu571: some of those Huawei devices are multimode and need to be switched into the correct modem mode using usb_modeswitch
[22:08] <ubuntu571> TJ- , I guess yes, how can I be sure?
[22:09] <TJ-> MWM: it does sound as if there is a problem with the image on the USB, or reading it
[22:09] <simonpe^^> TJ-, thanks a lot for the help. Luckily I have all the data spread around in different places and I guess I only lost the absolute latest of my work and the coherent directory structure + build scripts. I`m eager to see the look on my bosses face tomorrow when I tell him xD
[22:10] <TJ-> ubuntu571: "mmcli -L" should list all known modems
[22:10] <TJ-> simonpe^^: good look with that :)
[22:10] <MWM> TJ: Ive checked the md5 and its fine.  Im trying different usb sticks.  USB3.0 wont even boot
[22:10] <MWM> .... so I moved back to USB 2 sticks I forgot to say
[22:11] <TJ-> MWM: sometimes there can be issues in writing the image though. Checking the ISO file hash isn't the same as checking the hash of the bits on the USB device. I think you missed it earlier, but I posted a link to a script I have that checks the on-USB hash as well
[22:12] <TJ-> MWM: if you want to check the (SHA1) hash of the image written to a USB device I have a script for that: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hash-check_dev-from-ISO.bash
[22:12] <MWM> I did miss it.  thanks
[22:13] <kbytes> is there an alternative to iftop that doesnt rape 100% of your cpu?
[22:13] <MWM> uh-oh bash :)
[22:13] <anabain> ubuntu571, have you already installed usb-modeswitch (sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch)?
[22:13] <TJ-> MWM: you could trivially alter the script to call "md5sum" instead of "sha1sum"
[22:14] <TJ-> MWM: the extension is to make clear I use bash-specific constructs
[22:18] <ubuntu080> TJ- , the modem is found, the response is: Found 1 modems: 	/org/freedesktop/ModemManager1/Modem/0 [huawei] E1752
[22:19] <TJ-> ubuntu080: OK, that's good news. So you'd need to use the connection editor to configure it with a connection string. Those are often auto-generated by the GUI wizard dialogs when you create a new modem connection, based on you providing your ISP name
[22:20] <MWM> when altering the sha1sum to md5 sum is it okay to assume that all instances of SHA1 should be changed to md5sum?
[22:20] <Ranieri_> Hey, where exactly is my jdk directory installed?
[22:20] <ubuntu080> TJ- , Yes, I added a new connection and configured it with my provider
[22:21] <TJ-> ubuntu080: right, so when you activate the connection it should get an IP address and DNS servers assigned by the ISP
[22:21] <TJ-> ubuntu080: if not, it's possible the modem has a captive portal and you need to enable that first. In which case use a web browser to access the modem's web-admin page
[22:23] <TJ-> Ranieri_: under /usr/lib/jvm/ usually
[22:23] <ubuntu080> TJ- , I can't activate the connection, the manager applet of gnome shows "Mobile Broadband unavailable" and when I click on "connect" nothing happens
[22:24] <TJ->  ubuntu080 Oh! there's usually a GUI button to tick to enable WWAN (cellular) connections
[22:24] <TJ-> ubuntu080: not sure what you see, but here with KDE, I see an icon that looks like the signal bar on an Android mobile phone
[22:25] <ubuntu080> TJ- , yes I see it too in gnome and it is written just next to it "mobile broadband unavailable"
[22:26] <TJ-> ubuntu080: hmmm, that's good at least we see similar things. OK, there may be a clue in /var/log/syslog about that. First though, check "rfkill list" in case there's the rare chance of a radio kill switch node for the modem
[22:27] <ubuntu080> TJ- , the result is 0: asus-wlan: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 1: asus-bluetooth: Bluetooth 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 2: phy0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 3: hci0: Bluetooth 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[22:28] <TJ-> ubuntu080: OK, those are only for Bluetooth and Wifi, so check /var/log/syslog. You might want to do "pastebinit <( tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog )" so we can help you with that
[22:29] <MWM> TJ if it isnt out of line to ask -> why arent we looking at ifconfig for ubuntu080?
[22:31] <ubuntu080_> TJ- , I'm sorry internet wifi went down. the result is 0: asus-wlan: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 1: asus-bluetooth: Bluetooth 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 2: phy0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no 3: hci0: Bluetooth 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[22:31] <daftykins> ubuntu080_: it'd be much more readable on http://paste.ubuntu.com ;)
[22:34] <ubuntu080__> TJ- , I'm sorry internet wifi went down. the result is 0: asus-wlan: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 1: asus-bluetooth: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 2: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 3: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
[22:35] <daftykins> ubuntu080_: it'd be much more readable on http://paste.ubuntu.com ;)
[22:37] <ubuntu080__> Thank you daftykins , here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/14121637/ :)
[22:40] <BarnacleBob> hello.  i'm trying to build a new deb package for a piece of software that just includes a few binary files in the tar.gz but can't figure out why my debian/install isn't moving them into the root.  anyone able to help with this or know where i can go for help?
[22:41] <daftykins> BarnacleBob: you might want #debian ;)
[22:43] <BarnacleBob> daftykins, sure i'll try
[22:49] <rico75> sera a tutti
[22:59] <ubuntu080__> It's getting late here, maybe tomorrow I will find more help, thank you and hae a good evening :)
[23:03] <r__> Hi all
[23:07] <w4qed> Good evenig all
[23:08] <awshelp> guys how can i see currently connected users to ubuntu server acros all ports?
[23:09] <daftykins> that sentence doesn't quite make sense, SSH'd in = "who"
[23:09] <awshelp> um
[23:10] <awshelp> i want to see who is currently connected
[23:10] <awshelp> to that server
[23:10] <awshelp> not via ssh
[23:10] <awshelp> via another protocol
[23:10] <rww> which protocol?
[23:10] <awshelp> znc
[23:10] <daftykins> yeah you need to phrase your question properly then - and stop pressing enter so much.
[23:10] <awshelp> sorry
[23:10] <rww> ask #znc
[23:10] <awshelp> well hold on
[23:10] <awshelp> the user is connected to the server right?
[23:11] <awshelp> so ubuntu server should be able to display currently connected users?
[23:11] <rww> yes, but Ubuntu isn't going to know which user is which
[23:11] <daftykins> no, that's not OS support.
[23:11] <awshelp> thats fine
[23:11] <rww> ZNC's the one that has your user database, so go ask it
[23:11] <awshelp> its only one user
[23:11] <rww> ... so if you know the answer, why are you asking :|
[23:11] <awshelp> i just need the ip address
[23:11] <awshelp> i dont think u follow
[23:12] <awshelp> i want to know the ip address of the one connected user to the ubuntu server
[23:12] <k1l_> awshelp: netstat -tulpen    then look at the ports
[23:12] <rww> alrighty, look into `netstat` and do some complicated command to strip it just down to that one user
[23:12] <rww> or, you know, just ask #znc
[23:12] <awshelp> ok thank you rwp and k1l_
[23:13] <k1l_> awshelp: it would be way easier to just look into znc who that user is and what ip he uses.
[23:13] <awshelp> there noone else connected to that server on any protocol
[23:13] <awshelp> this will work
[23:14] <awshelp> maybe not
[23:14] <awshelp> i will join #znc
[23:14] <awshelp> thank you
[23:14] <daftykins> thank tux.
[23:15] <awshelp> sorry for nto listening :-d
[23:15] <awshelp> not*
[23:22] <w4qed> I am currently using Ubuntu 15.04 on a Raspberry Pi with a HD. How can I get a GUI script to startup at boot time from a specific user?
[23:23] <EriC^^> w4qed: gui script?
[23:23] <EriC^^> you mean you want an open terminal with a script running?
[23:23] <EriC^^> or like a script that opens a gui?
[23:23] <w4qed> the scrips starts a program called YAAC... Yet Another APRS CLient
[23:24] <w4qed> script opens a gui...
[23:24] <EriC^^> ok, so you want it to run when a user logs on into the desktop, running as another user?
[23:25] <w4qed> I want it to run when system boots, the as user as  not important, but not waiting till a user logs on.
[23:26] <EriC^^> so you want it to run whenever anybody logs in to his desktop
[23:26] <EriC^^> ?
[23:26] <w4qed> When system boots, not when anyone logs on..
[23:27] <EriC^^> when system boots you dont have a gui for it
[23:27] <w4qed> OK, is there a way to spawn it?
[23:27] <EriC^^> *sigh*
[23:31] <w4qed> btw the system doies auto log on a user when booting and opens the desktop
[23:32] <EriC^^> w4qed: ok, you could add it to the startup apps
[23:32] <foxlet> Hello again.
[23:32] <w4qed> where?
[23:32] <EriC^^> w4qed: dash > startup
[23:34] <foxlet> Maybe now it’s a better time to ask.
[23:34] <w4qed> OK and thanks, I'll try to find out more on dash > startup.. thanks
[23:34] <awshelp> hey guys so if my external firewall is fully secures, i dont need to worry about ubuntu firewall security right?
[23:35] <psusi> awshelp, if you don't install network services like a mail server or ftp server, you don't need *any* firewall.
[23:36] <awshelp> psusi thanks
[23:36] <k1l_> awshelp: i would not worry about firewalls but worry about the software that accepts connections. if you let port 80 traffic in but have insecure phpmyadmin passwords etc, no firewall can make that safe.
[23:36] <awshelp> well openssh
[23:36] <awshelp> but if i limit incoming connections to my ip address only then i am fully afe right?
[23:36] <awshelp> at the external firewall level
[23:37] <k1l_> no. not if you run insecure software.
[23:37] <awshelp> but if connections cant be accepted to any ip but my own
[23:37] <awshelp> from any ip but my own*
[23:37] <diffra> How do I upgrade 14.04 to 15.10?  The upgrade path is to do-release-upgrade to 14.10, then 15.04, then 15.10 -- but 14.10 is EOL and not in the repos?
[23:37] <tgm4883> awshelp: yes that helps
[23:37] <awshelp> at the security group level
[23:38] <awshelp> then insecure software is nto an issue correct?
[23:38] <awshelp> even tho i am not runnign insecure software
[23:38] <Bashing-om> !eol | diffra
[23:38] <tgm4883> awshelp: correct
[23:39] <awshelp> ok thanks tgm4883
[23:39] <k1l_> awshelp: a firewall doesnt make insecure software secure.
[23:39] <awshelp> thanks k1l_ and psusi
[23:39] <diffra> That's not terribly helpful.  I know 14.10 is EOL.  I don't want to run 14.10, but do-release-upgrade with Prompt=normal wants me to go to utopic, and those files aren't in the repositories
[23:39] <awshelp> k1l_ the software could be insecure but it wont be able to listen due to the security group limitation
[23:40] <tgm4883> k1l_: correct, but it mitigates the attack vector
[23:40] <diffra> So, how do I upgrade a 14.04 server machine to 15.10?  Do I just do the debian thing and update the sources.list?
[23:40] <gh0strat> I used the "Additional Drivers" tool to use "Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary)", and the rear USB ports on my ASRock Z97 Extreme6 motherboard have stopped working everywhere, even in BIOS and Windows. Front panel USB ports still working though. Flashed updated BIOS to the motherboard and still no luck.
[23:40] <gh0strat> What can I do to get my rear USB ports working again?
[23:41] <TJ-> diffra: did you read the links? EOLUpgrdes explains *exactly* what to do
[23:41] <TJ-> gh0strat: did you also do a full BIOS Settings factory/default reset?
[23:41] <gh0strat> no
[23:42] <Bashing-om> diffra: Read the guide. You are correct that in what you want to do the path includes the EOL release 14.10 . Else wait for the release of 16.04 and do a LTL - LTS upgrade .
[23:43] <gh0strat> TJ-: I used the Additional Drivers tool to set it back to "Do not use the device", but it's still not working.
[23:44] <boxmein> the chrome back/forward/refresh icons are part of an icon set, but I can't figure out how to change them independently
[23:45] <TJ-> gh0strat: I cannot see how microcode updates would affect USB, they are loaded at boot-time. As soon as you stop them loading its the same as it always was. I'd suspect the BIOS upgrade you did.
[23:46] <TJ-> gh0strat: have you done a full cold-boot restart on the PC, including removing power from the wall so the +5V standby is not provided?
[23:48] <gh0strat> TJ-: I didn't do the BIOS upgrade until after a lot of troubleshooting, including multiple reboots into Windows. (where the rear panel USB ports were also not working) When I first power on my machine, none of the lights on my (USB) keyboard or mouse light up.
[23:49] <gh0strat> TJ-: Thanks for the sanity-check, I didn't think microcode updates could have any effect on this either. I'll try unplugging it to see if that helps.
[23:54] <new2this> where can i get the most recent version of TVenLinux.sh ?
[23:54] <ctlaltdel> what is that?
[23:56] <nixon1> I have a dell inspiring 3527 laptop with 6gb ram,i5 4th gen cpu and Intel +and hd 8670m graphics. It's taking too much time to boot, and it's not showing the options to change to radeon or fglrx grphics in software-properties-gtk
[23:56] <nixon1> Can anybody help? Thanks
[23:57] <Riffe> Hi everyone! I got a quick question. I'm trying to install Ubuntu server on a UEFI MB with wiped HDD. So in the install I'm trying to make a new partition for EFI boot. And according to google its would be a option for partition to be used as "EFI boot partition". The problem is that there no such option to choose, which is quit wired. Using the latest
[23:57] <Riffe> ubuntu server ISO. Any ideas why i don't have the "EFI boot partition" option?
[23:58] <TJ-> Riffe: did you ensure the installer *booted* with the firmware in EFI mode, not Legacy/BIOS?
[23:59] <Riffe> TJ- no i did not :) Thx for help, ill google how to boot into EFI mode. Thx for help