[00:10] <pleia2> could you be more specific? :)
[00:11] <knome> #ilovexubuntu preparing
[00:11] <pleia2> ah, no work done on that yet
[00:11] <knome> should we schedule a meeting?
[00:12] <knome> or if you feel super motivated to work on it now, that works as well
[00:12] <pleia2> have other tasks today, will have to pencil in some time later
[00:12] <knome> okay - i will be most likely in bed by then
[00:13] <pleia2> like, not today later :)
[00:13] <knome> ah :)
[00:13] <knome> any idea on more specific time?
[00:13] <pleia2> not sure, drowning in book deadlines at the moment
[00:13] <knome> mhm
[00:14] <knome> let's try to meet impromptu then
[00:14] <pleia2> k
[00:14] <knome> something like 10pm-> UTC is usually "free" for me
[00:14] <knome> in local time, think "two hours earlier from now"
[00:15] <pleia2> k
[00:16] <knome> or maybe 9pm on some days
[00:16] <knome> so if you happen to be around about then, you can try to ping me
[00:16] <knome> (well you can always try, but likely with worse results...)
[00:26] <knome> pleia2, also updated the front page with usb flash drive button
[00:26] <knome> (and cleaned up the widget a bit)
[00:27] <knome> i'm starting to think i might want to OCD about the button placement
[00:27] <pleia2> neat
[00:27] <knome> so they would always be bottom aligned in the container
[11:06] <flocculant> knome: just quickly does ^^ mean the new docs will land soon? 
[11:06] <knome> flocculant, referring to which one? :)
[11:07] <knome> flocculant, re: the discussion with pleia2, it means we will have the google code-in stuff prepared
[11:08] <flocculant> well the docs talk ... 
[11:08] <knome> flocculant, but now that you say it, yes, we should have covered the actual docs too
[11:08] <flocculant> so the cont stuff will go live soon? and land in xenial too? 
[11:08] <knome> pleia2, ping; when you have time, can you build the 16.04 docs on docs.xubuntu.org with "make" - this builds the contributor docs too
[11:09] <knome> pleia2, i will also prepare the branch for the subdomain root
[11:09] <flocculant> is that fixed now? 
[11:09] <knome> yes, everything should work - but none is uploaded yet
[11:09] <knome> and when we do the next upload to repository, the contributor docs are in too
[11:10] <flocculant> oh yea - xenial builds except on xenial - I forgot we did that discussion :p
[11:10] <knome> do we want one push there before a1?
[11:10] <knome> heh
[11:10] <knome> i'm not sure xenial builds are done on xenial machines though
[11:10] <knome> so it's not a problem - yet
[11:10] <flocculant> ack
[11:10] <knome> at some point around trusty or sth i remember hearing some build machine running lucid
[11:11] <flocculant> I would say push as soon as we can - I need to deal with the x.org/contributor/qa page when the help is live 
[11:11] <flocculant> ha ha 
[11:11] <knome> let me elaborate:
[11:12] <knome> i will make sure the online docs have contributor stuff ASAP
[11:12] <knome> do we need them ASAP in the xenial builds too?
[11:12] <knome> because those are two different things
[11:12] <flocculant> yea - I'd like to see then building on xenial asap
[11:12] <flocculant> because
[11:12] <knome> oki
[11:12] <knome> oh, building
[11:13] <knome> that's the third thing
[11:13] <knome> :D
[11:13] <knome> when i say xenial builds, i refer to the documentation being shipped with the ISO
[11:13] <flocculant> I can't say - 'do exploratory in xenial' run a vm of wily to read the qa docs :p
[11:13] <flocculant> yes - I assumed that's what you mean
[11:13] <flocculant> t
[11:13] <knome> ok
[11:13] <knome> bluesabre, ping; please prepare a new upload for the docs ASAP
[11:13] <flocculant> and when it's built it'll land as update for existing xenial installs? 
[11:14] <flocculant> and yes I assume it will then :D
[11:14] <knome> yes, it should do that
[11:14] <Unit193> knome: Doesn't it not build in Xenial?
[11:14] <flocculant> Unit193: no - pdf issue 
[11:14] <knome> Unit193, yes, but are the packages built for xenial on xenial machines?
[11:14] <knome> i mean no, it doesn't build
[11:15] <flocculant> I assume Unit193 means locally ... 
[11:15] <Unit193> Ummm, that's kind of the point, yeah..
[11:15] <knome> well then we should get that fixed
[11:15] <knome> sigh
[11:15] <flocculant> Unit193: make errors because of pdf - so cont docs don't build
[11:15] <knome> one thing we could do for a small while is disable pdf building
[11:16] <knome> so we could get the package to build for now
[11:16] <flocculant> this might be a hard way of doing this - not sure, but could we not build docs, build cont docs, build pdf 
[11:16] <flocculant> so it errors when the docs are built
[11:16] <flocculant> or disable pdf's :)
[11:16] <knome> that would be possible too 
[11:16] <flocculant> s/when/once
[11:17] <knome> but i don't know, it feels kind of dirty :P
[11:17] <flocculant> heh
[11:17] <knome> i mean fixing the order
[11:17] <flocculant> yea - it felt a bit dirty writing it :D
[11:17] <knome> hehe
[11:17] <knome> and ultimately, i don't know what happens if make reports it fails
[11:17] <knome> it might just report FTBFS and the package isn't updated
[11:18] <flocculant> right
[11:18] <knome> Unit193 might know if that's how things go
[11:18] <flocculant> Unit193: still bug 1515361 afaik
[11:18] <knome> so disabling pdf would mean that we can get the package to build without errors
[11:18] <flocculant> yep
[11:18] <knome> but it also means we need to patch the package to *build* the pdfs later
[11:18] <flocculant> right
[11:18] <knome> kind of crappy situation
[11:19] <knome> that's trivial though
[11:19] <knome> it's a one-line change
[11:19] <flocculant> and we do need to do something because pdf is useful imo
[11:19] <knome> it has its merits and i would definitely like that it builds now that we have it, but fortunately it's not critical
[11:19] <knome> it's not like our docs do not build at all
[11:19] <flocculant> yea
[11:20]  * knome knocks wood
[11:20] <flocculant> :)
[11:20] <flocculant> oww ... 
[11:25] <Unit193> flocculant: apt list | grep installed,loc
[11:26] <flocculant> and then? 
[11:27] <Unit193> Anything come out?
[11:27] <flocculant> oh yea
[11:28] <Unit193> 1. That many?  2. fop one of 'em?
[11:28] <flocculant> http://pastebin.com/3cYc2zYQ
[11:28] <flocculant> fop isn't no
[11:34] <flocculant> Unit193: fwiw http://pastebin.com/8NeKmv9v
[11:38] <Unit193> Ah, thanks.
[11:47] <Unit193> Test build is taking a while, Ubuntu mirror decided to give me sloooooooooooow speeds.  At least I have a few things to try in the meantime.
[11:48] <flocculant> :)
[12:01] <knome> 2
[12:01] <knome> oops
[12:01] <knome> vacuuming
[12:02] <knome> next the pc
[12:02] <knome> bbl
[12:06] <Unit193> So does it count if I get the docs, contrib docs, and pdfs to build?
[12:06] <flocculant> it does if you did it on a xenial install :p
[13:09] <bluesabre> keeping an eye on the docs status
[13:09] <bluesabre> let me know when we think they're ready to roll
[13:09] <bluesabre> and then Unit193 or myself can upload them
[13:10] <Unit193> Will have to disable PDFs.
[13:10] <bluesabre> k