[00:00]  * curlyears once used bc to comp[ute 6^6^6 (The Number of the Beast from the Bible.   Had over 27,000 digits
[00:00] <genii> curlyears: I'm getting too tired to assist much more tonight.
[00:00] <penguin42> curlyears: This explains the state of your machine
[00:00] <curlyears> took my little 6Mhz MC68000 running Xenix over 8 hours to compute
[00:04] <curlyears> weird:  when I try to mount /tsarget, the system claims it's already mounted.  When I use umount /target, it says: umount: /target is not mounted (according to mtab)
[00:06] <curlyears> I  know what you mean, I've been doing it for 9 hours
[00:07] <curlyears> so, I mkdir /target, then mount /dev/sda /target and mount claims /dev/sda already mounted or /target busy
[00:08] <curlyears> I am not doinfg anyting that would explain /target being busy
[00:08] <curlyears> well, I appreciate all the help, thanks, guys!
[00:09] <genii> Maybe tomorrow
[00:09] <curlyears> I guess I'll give it a rest until tomorrow
[00:09] <curlyears> which area of Canada you in, genii?  I am in Lincoln, Nebraska
[00:09] <genii> Toronto, Ontario
[00:10] <curlyears> Ah, Toronto
[00:10] <curlyears> I have never been that far East, or North
[00:11] <curlyears> knight awl
[02:30] <PryMar56> how many digits in 999^999^999?  2,993,570
[02:31] <PryMar56>  NB=$(perl -MMath::BigFloat=lib,GMP -e 'print Math::BigFloat->bpow(Math::BigFloat->bpow(999,999),999),"\n"');echo ${#NB}
[02:37] <PryMar56>  1.46s to calculate ^
[07:38] <w0jtas1> hello , 16.04 fail to install over netboot, Can't exec "/usr/lib/tasksel/filter-tasks": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/tasksel line 343
[07:38] <w0jtas1> any toughts ?
[10:45] <w0jtas1> after installing tasksel from ubuntu mirror i have lack of filter-tasks file and it's causing i can't install system properly, any toughts ?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> !info tasksel
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: installed the one from repos?
[10:48] <w0jtas1> lotuspsychje: yes one from repo, it was updated yesterday 5:34pm so it could be broken i think
[10:48] <lotuspsychje_> w0jtas1: file a bug against it?
[10:49] <w0jtas1> where ? :)
[10:50] <lotuspsychje_> !bug | w0jtas1
[10:54] <w0jtas1> hmm but i am not sure if this file should be there or if installer shouldn't rely on this file ? :)
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: i would ubuntu-bug tasksel and describe your issue, if somethings not right a dev will surely follow up
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: xenial can use all the bugging out, so we have a clean solid Os in april
[10:57] <w0jtas1> ok , but ubuntu-bug - command not found
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: ubuntu-bug tasksel
[10:58] <w0jtas1> i am doing it in terminal, no desktop yet ( it fail to install os :) )
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: you need a package to bug against it
[10:58] <w0jtas1> bash: ubuntu-bug: command not found
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: what you mean fail to install?
[10:59] <w0jtas1> failed on step of "Select and install software"
[10:59] <w0jtas1> so i don't have anything on system yet
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[11:00] <w0jtas1> just empty target
[11:00] <w0jtas1> with base files
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: can you pastebin the output after sudo apt-get install tasksel?
[11:00] <w0jtas1> is ubuntu-bug part of which package so i can install it first ?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: no, ubuntu-bug needs to report against a packagename
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: meaning you have trouble with tasksel so ubuntu-bug tasksel
[11:01] <w0jtas1> lotuspsychje: i understand but i just ask about actually "ubuntu-bug" is part of what ?
[11:02] <w0jtas1> it doesn't come with linux kernel, must be some package or whatever else
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: man ubuntu-bug from terminal, its built-in
[11:04] <w0jtas1> ah ok let me try to boot into it then maybe just installer shell doesn't have it then
[11:05] <w0jtas1> no way, after booting into 16.04 ubuntu-bug just doesn't exists
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: what did you type in terminal?
[11:07] <w0jtas1> ubuntu-bug tasksel
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: and what does it reply
[11:07] <w0jtas1> -bash: ubuntu-bug: command not found
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: are you in livemode?
[11:08] <w0jtas1> no, just 16.04 installed without any packages
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: your on minimal?
[11:10] <w0jtas1> that's what could install so far, as i told it failed on installing whatever packages because tasksel is broken so it cannot install system fully at all
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: lets start from the beginning, wich iso of xenial did you download?
[11:12] <w0jtas1> i don't use iso, just netinstall
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: thats not good mate
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: use the xenial .iso from dialy builds
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> daily
[11:16] <w0jtas1> i have all system prepared for netinst
[11:17] <w0jtas1> in such case next daily will break once tasksel will be updated to newer right ?
[11:17] <w0jtas1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1528530
[11:17] <w0jtas1> ok manage to post ;)
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: i dont think its reccomended to install xenial daily the netinstall way
[11:19] <w0jtas1> i think as long as we achieve what's the most important so the most important package is working it's better
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: well lets see what the devs will ask on your bug :p
[11:23] <lordievader> Netinstall is great :D
[11:25] <w0jtas1> how can i recommend patch to a package ?
[11:29] <w0jtas1> hmm i dont understand how those packages are working, it's written that it comes from debian repository which doesn't contain lots of files that are in tasksel_3.34ubuntu1.tar.gz, do devs somehow add extra stuff on top of debian package ? if so is there any repo for that or something else
[11:37] <brendand> w0jtas1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel
[11:47] <w0jtas1> mhmm xenial is missing
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:05] <penguin42> Hey BK
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hey
[13:13] <w0jtas1> i am trying to make patch but checking manual tells me to run "bzr branch ubuntu:xenial/tasksel" which is failing:
[13:13] <w0jtas1> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/xenial/tasksel/".
[13:13] <w0jtas1> what can i do ? :)
[14:48] <curlyears> anyone see genii, k1|, or -TJ around?
[14:49] <curlyears> seen TJ-
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: TJ- is out, use TAB to see nicks you need
[14:49] <curlyears> I guess this bot dopesn't support that request  )-:
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !tab
[14:50] <curlyears> thanks, lotuspsychje
[14:51] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:  could you assist me in getiiing some vlumes mounted under 14.04 LTS Live Cd?
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: i followed your issue a bit yesterday, but chroot isnt my expertise sorry mate
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: but didnt your issue was trusty related instead of xenial?
[14:53] <curlyears> as far as I know, my distro is ccasper
[14:53] <curlyears> casper
[14:54] <curlyears> ohm right, trusty related.  Yes
[14:54] <curlyears> sorry, just woke up, still a tad bleary
[14:55] <curlyears> also my BG was 47 when I got up )-:
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: #ubuntu for trusty issues then
[14:56] <w0jtas1> ah didn't know devel is different channel as well....
[14:56] <w0jtas1> i could ask and ask and ask here ;)
[14:56] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:   yeah, I know, but TJ- suggested I  keep it in here to avoid "confusion"
[14:58] <curlyears> Ah, well.  I'll try #ubuntu until I cab locate TJ-, then
[14:58] <curlyears> thanks, all
[21:09] <curlyears> good afternoon, TJ-
[21:10] <curlyears> hello, all
[21:13] <curlyears> so, how far is Xenial from being released, at this point?
[21:13] <curlyears> !xenial
[21:14] <k1l> its alpha
[21:14] <k1l> or not even alpha
[21:18] <curlyears> k1l:  I realize that, I was just wondering how long you thik it will be before release.  Like, 1 month, 6 months, etc?
[21:18] <penguin42> it will be released in APril
[21:18] <k1l> 16.04 means 4th month in 2016
[21:19] <genii> curlyears: Ubuntu releases are all year.month.revision
[21:20] <curlyears> say, k1l:  I am having a new problem.  Reinstalled with the same DVD I have used before, but the new install won't boot, com,plaInis of "improper ELF magic" and a missing file, then drops me to grub rescue.
[21:20] <curlyears> ah, 161.04   got it
[21:20] <curlyears> I am install 14.04.2
[21:21] <curlyears> s/161/16/
[21:21] <k1l> curlyears: reinstall grub
[21:21] <curlyears> s/install/installing/
[21:21] <genii> "improper ELF magic" indicates wrong binary for the system it's trying to run on
[21:21] <k1l> did you again make complicated  install with lvm, btrfs and stuff you dont know about?
[21:22] <curlyears> k1l:  no, plaini vaNILLA INSTLL
[21:22] <genii> like a 64bit binary for a 32bit system, or ARM binary for an X86 system, etc
[21:22] <curlyears> this DVD has never done this before.   Hmmmm
[21:23] <curlyears> it's a 4 core 64 bit processor
[21:23] <k1l> boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[21:48] <curlyears> what is teh filezsystem type, ext4?
[21:48] <k1l> wait, what do you need the filesystem for now?
[21:49] <k1l> if you want to spot your / partition: yes its ext4.
[21:54] <curlyears> hdow do install psatebinit again?   apt-get-install fails:  apt-get-install: command not found
[21:55] <k1l> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:55] <genii> no dash there after get
[21:55] <k1l> but you can use the pastebin webpage. its like uploading a photo, just with text.
[21:58] <penguin42> this seems scarily like yesterday
[21:58] <genii> Heh
[22:03] <k1l> i really dont know what he is doing all the time.
[22:10] <curlyeras> OK:  was this the correct command: sudo grub-install-root-directory=/mnt/dev/sdb
[22:11] <curlyeras> oops mistypeed ,yy nick   *blush*
[22:13] <curlyears> *sigh*
 boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[22:14] <k1l> you need to adjust X and Y where X is a letter and Y is a number.
[22:18] <curlyears> what the?  I am issuing: pastebinit <(sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb)   and the system is giving me a ">" promkpt, as   if I hadn't closed the paren or something?
[22:23] <k1l> dont just put commands in that way.
[22:24] <k1l> you can copy the text in the terminal with your mouse. and paste that then into a pastebin webpage. its not rocket science.
[22:24] <k1l> and that command there ist still wrong.
[22:25] <k1l> i really dont understand why you cant even copy and paste a command and adjust one (1) character.
[22:26] <curlyears> that's what I did
 <k1l> boot the live dvd/usb. then do this "sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mnt"  where dev/sdxy is the partition with /. then "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx"
[22:27] <k1l> that is what i pasted you now 3 times
[22:27] <k1l> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb
[22:27] <k1l> that is the command you used.
[22:28] <k1l> my command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdx
[22:28] <k1l> your command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sdb
[22:28] <curlyears> anyhow, I got the grub-install  to run, but it errored out with the following : grub-install: error: install device isn't specified.k1l:  the device was already mounted as sdb, under 3TB Volume
[22:28] <curlyears> so I just uised that path instead of the /sdb
[22:29] <curlyears> Imean as the path, sdb SHOULD work
[22:29] <curlyears> or do I havwe to use that horrid, 50 mile long uuid?
[22:30] <k1l> nope nope nope
[22:30] <k1l> you cant just mess the commands because you think it might be clever to change them
[22:30] <k1l> that is why you dont have a running ubuntu but a mess all the time
[22:31] <k1l> use the commands like they are meant to work. not like you think they should work
[22:31] <curlyears> I am not trying to be clever.  I copuldn't mount the drive to /mnt because it was already mounted
[22:32] <curlyears> I have been running 14.04 LTS since July, when I built the computer, thank you very much.  This is the first such probelm I have had
[22:33] <k1l> look at the difference in the command i gave you. you forgot half of the important command. the part where it should be installed to.
[22:33] <k1l> so that command cant work.
[22:35] <k1l> so please put into a pastebin webpage a "sudo parted -l" and show the link here. yes use the mouse to copy the text, then right click and select "copy" then put it into the webpage "paste.ubuntu.com" and show the result url in here.
[22:38] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14149792/
[22:39] <k1l> "sudo umount /dev/sdb2"  then "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt"   then" sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb"
[22:40] <k1l> then shut down, remove the usb/dvd and grub should work
[22:41] <curlyears> Installation finished. No error reported.
[22:41] <curlyears> shutting down
[22:49] <genii> I wonder if he put a dash or space now between /mnt and /dev/sdb