[00:28] <kulelu88> im back now
[00:34] <melodie> :)
[00:41] <kulelu88> teach me some french melodie 
[00:43] <melodie> kulelu88 pas maintenant 
[00:43] <melodie> je suis occupée, je construis une "Bento Sushi" i386
[00:43] <melodie> kulelu88 teste une Sushi dans une des tes machines ?
[00:47] <kulelu88> je suis occupee = I am occupied :D
[00:47] <kulelu88> je construis uni Bento Sushi i386 = I am building Bento Sushi i386
[00:47] <kulelu88> :D
[05:36] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[06:35] <Kilos> ai! power only came back after 1 am
[06:36] <inetpro> wb oom
[06:36] <inetpro> good mornins
[06:45] <Symmetria> lol
[06:46] <Symmetria> so, a single episode 
[06:46] <Symmetria> of the new marvel series
[06:46] <Symmetria> in 4k
[06:46] <Symmetria> = 14gig big 
[06:46] <Symmetria> equating to 45mbit/second if you stream it
[06:46] <thatgraemeguy> i'll just have to watch it at work then :D
[06:47] <Symmetria> lol that or download the 1080p version ;p
[06:47] <Symmetria> or the 720p version
[06:47] <Symmetria> I only downloaded the 4k version to test 4k content 
[06:48] <Symmetria> honestly though, having now put 1080p vs 4k side by side on two tv's
[06:48] <thatgraemeguy> yeah i have nothing that can play that, nor any display capable of that. so bandwidth kinda irrelevant for now
[06:48] <Symmetria> I honestly believe that 4k just isnt worth it because I can barely see the difference
[06:48] <Symmetria> heh VLC plays it, so does PLEX, its the display/tv you need 
[06:49] <Symmetria> and 4k tv's have gotten cheap, you can buy them for under 10k now
[06:49] <Symmetria> (but dont buy LG 4k cheap tv's they are fake 4k, samsung ftw)
[06:49] <thatgraemeguy> yeah there was a nice one on takealot yesterday for 7.5
[06:49] <thatgraemeguy> it was an lg, but not fake
[06:50] <Symmetria> yeah but you gotta be careful
[06:50] <Symmetria> LG claims some of their sets are 4k but they arent TRUE 4k
[06:50] <Symmetria> they do it by mixing resolutions and color palletes
[06:50] <Symmetria> you gotta check the thing can do true 3840x2160 else its "fake" 4k
[06:50] <thatgraemeguy> meh
[06:51] <Symmetria> heh there have been huge fights between samsung and LG over this
[06:51] <Symmetria> but I read the actual standard document and what LG is doing on their cheaper screens is NOT true 4k
[06:51] <thatgraemeguy> at this stage its like researching ferrari vs lambo..... it just isn't worth the effort :)
[06:57] <inetpro> yikes, we really do not need 4k here 
[06:57] <thatgraemeguy> no
[06:58] <thatgraemeguy> I'll probably be cruising in a Lambo before we have that kind of bandwidth readily available ;-p
[07:01] <Kilos> morning all
[07:01] <inetpro> even streaming of music eats way too much bandwidth as it is
[07:07] <MaNI> I bet nobody can even tell the difference between 'fake 4k' and 'real 4k'
[07:26] <Kilos> wbb reboot time
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[07:26] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz botsnack
[07:26] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[07:28] <zipper> Do you guys have this tradition where you stuff your rectum with pumpkin seeds for good luck?
[07:37] <thatgraemeguy> wtf
[08:19] <qwebirc79980> Help! Loaded 14.04 ok and it worked fine. Then l could only login as a Guest, now I only get the Grub command line.
[08:27] <Kerbero> Symmetria: do you maybe have a link to a 4k vid which I can stream 
[08:27] <Kerbero> want to test the utwente network :P
[08:28] <thatgraemeguy> there are some 4k videos on youtube
[08:28] <Kerbero> that's a boring sollution
[08:28] <Kerbero> hehe
[08:29] <thatgraemeguy> meh
[08:48] <Kilos> maaz google 14.04 boots to gub command line
[08:48] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ubuntu 14.04, 13.10: Boot into Text Mode / Console / Command Line" http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/boot-into-text-console-ubuntu-linux-14-04/ :: "UEFI install (14.04) boots to GRUB command prompt, no GUI" http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145503/uefi-install-14-04-boots-to-grub-command-prompt-no-gui :: "grub2 - Ubuntu 14.04 not booting
[08:48] <Maaz> after error message. /tmp could not ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/453411/ubuntu-14-04-…
[08:48] <Kilos> qwebirc79980 did you see those links
[09:05] <Kilos> ai!
[15:42] <Kilos> hi Cryterion__ grumbug 
[15:43] <Kilos> afternoon superfly 
[17:12] <Symmetria> wow german shepard pups have very sharp teeth lol, my dumb pup keeps trying to take the socks off my feet, thinks its a big game
[17:12] <Symmetria> but when it sinks those teeth into my feet, ouch
[18:10] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[18:10] <Wolfeyes> hi Kilos
[18:10] <Wolfeyes> evening everyone
[18:37] <inetpro> good evening 
[18:37] <Wolfeyes> heya inetpro
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: are we not supposed to have a meeting this evening? 
[18:38] <Kilos> nope inetpro we decided to skip it in your absence
[18:38] <Kilos> absense
[18:38] <inetpro> Hi Wolfeyes 
[18:38] <Kilos> daai ding
[18:38] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:39] <Kilos> we can set up to start going strong in the new year
[18:39] <Kilos> what you think?
[18:39] <inetpro> ai! 
[18:40] <Wolfeyes> 9 days away
[18:40] <Kilos> but the way things have been going in the last coupla years things are getting tougher and tougher
[18:40] <Kilos> inetpro why the ai!
[18:40] <Kilos> when we lose you we are lost
[18:41] <inetpro> too many different chat technologies
[18:41] <Kilos> where else are you chatting now
[18:41] <inetpro> each one on a isolated island 
[18:41] <Kilos> imo telegram is the best
[18:41] <inetpro> an as well 
[18:42]  * inetpro relaxing now 
[18:43] <qwebirc67781> I am Jaxon M
[18:44] <Wolfeyes> Hello Jaxon
[18:44] <qwebirc67781> Hi Wolfeyes! I was browsing the Ubuntu forums earlier today and saw the event
[18:45] <qwebirc67781> Got curious and here I am
[18:45] <Wolfeyes> I think that was the event you were talking about Kilos
[18:46] <qwebirc67781> Sorry I'm late. Would you mind giving a brief summary?
[18:47] <Kilos> oh my
[18:47] <Kilos> the meeting?
[18:47] <Wolfeyes> You reffering to the ubuntu meeting Jaxon? Because Kilos was just saying it was postponed until the new year, 
[18:47] <Kilos> peeps too busy qwebirc67781 
[18:48] <Kilos> but you welcomer to hang out here all the time
[18:48] <qwebirc67781> Oh ok. 
[18:48] <Kilos> and if you get an irc client then its easier than coming in from the site
[18:48] <Kilos> snf
[18:48] <Kilos> welcome to ubunt-za
[18:48] <qwebirc67781> How do I change my username?
[18:49] <Kilos> type in /nick new nick
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro chat to qwebirc67781 `i gotta sleep
[18:50] <Kilos> hi JaxonM 
[18:50] <JaxonM> Was there anything on the agenda before I logged in?
[18:50] <Kilos> i dont think so
[18:51] <Kilos> here is the agenda
[18:51] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/1MCAbe8
[18:51] <JaxonM> Thanks
[18:53] <JaxonM> The Khayelitsha thing sounds amazing. If only we had something similar for Jhb
[18:54] <JaxonM> Anyway, since I'm new, I may as well introduce myself again... I started using Ubuntu shortly after high school (around 10 yrs ago) and had Canonical send me a bunch of CD's to distribute
[18:56] <JaxonM> I spent hours playing Battle for Wesnoth, and started using Open Office. Till I got Win 7 and pretty much ditched Linux. I got back 2 years ago with Fedora, then OpenSuse and last year started using Ubuntu again
[18:56] <JaxonM> My plan is to attend an LUG or two, and of course join these IRC "meetups"
[19:00] <Kilos> JaxonM you can hang out here everyday all day. often new peeps need help
[19:00] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[19:01] <JaxonM> I often need help myself hey.
[19:02] <Kilos> thats why we hang out here all the time
[19:03] <JaxonM> It took me several days to get Android Studio up and running properly on Ubuntu (struggled getting Java properly installed, and configured before thinking of the SDK itself). I had no idea this place even existed.
[19:08] <Kilos> ya for some reason this is the last place peeps find
[19:11] <Kilos> i gota crash guys
[19:11] <Kilos> night all .sleep tight
[19:11] <JaxonM> Good night
[19:11] <Kilos> JaxonM just hang around , others will arrive
[19:12] <Kilos> and dont be a stranger ok
[19:20] <JaxonM> Hello
[19:20] <dekr4ken> hi
[19:20] <Wolfeyes> hey dekr4ken
[19:21] <dekr4ken> havent used irc since the 90's. using weechat on my ubuntu box still trying to figure out the shortcuts
[19:22] <Wolfeyes> I am pretty new myself with ubuntu JaxonM even though I been in and out here for many years, I haven't had a lot of time to play with ubuntu until now, been mostly busy with windows as my clients are all windows orientated.
[19:23] <dekr4ken> jip me too, i shifted my own rig over to ubuntu bout 2 years ago. havent look back since. 
[19:23] <dekr4ken> work sending me for rhcsa training in jan in rivonia. not much experience with redhat
[19:24] <Wolfeyes> that sounds cool. at least you getting there
[19:25] <dekr4ken> after 18 failed applications the boss thought i fought enough to get a gap. you servers/support/programming?
[19:26] <Wolfeyes> I work with time and attendance, biometric systems.
[19:27] <dekr4ken> *smiling way above my head
[19:28] <Wolfeyes> it's a little of everything really, but no-where near what the guys do here,or what they capable of. All experience I suppose.
[19:28] <JaxonM> Honestly the major reasons I went back to Windows was the massive support it got from devs (and the games - I had a bad experience with WineX)
[19:29] <dekr4ken> well there are some guys out here that really know their stuff. but time gives opportunity. i try stuff out i see on commandlinefu.com and check how it works and why. 
[19:30] <dekr4ken> we (myself and my colleagues) tend to think our sh*t always works sometimes.
[19:30] <Wolfeyes> Kilos was saying last night that there is a whole support just for wine JaxonM, and I was thinking of getting my windows programs to work with it because if I did that I would move away from windows completely.
[19:33] <dekr4ken> some years ago i made our major software in our industry to work on ubuntu (took me a week to get it working), proposed that the guys consider as we would save millions on licensing. i was shooshed as i was proposing the whole microsoft division would need to re-skill or move out. that was the end of it.
[19:35] <Wolfeyes> pity....
[19:37] <dekr4ken> need to run. chat again
[19:37] <dekr4ken> \part
[19:37] <dekr4ken> lol
[19:37] <Wolfeyes> cheers dude
[19:38] <JaxonM> *Internet connection*
[19:39] <JaxonM> How do I permanently keep this username?
[19:47] <Wolfeyes> If I am not mistaken you must register it, but you must keep chatting or the irc server gives it to someone else logging in with it. as long as you registered JaxonM, it stays yours for a time period, I think 3 months after you logged in.
[19:49] <JaxonM> Interesting. 
[19:49] <JaxonM> Thanks
[19:50] <Wolfeyes> I am just trying to find out how to register again....
[20:01] <JaxonM> I tried logging in with my Ubuntu account - seems that didn't work
[20:02] <Wolfeyes> JaxonM: do you see your tabs at the bottom?
[20:02] <Wolfeyes> one is freenode....
[20:02] <Wolfeyes> Click on that....
[20:02] <Wolfeyes> to type in that window....
[20:04] <Wolfeyes> then type:  /msg NickServ Register (your password) (your email address) <--- without brackets
[20:06] <JaxonM> I see tabs on the top left corner
[20:06] <Wolfeyes> will have to go to your email to complete the process JaxonM
[20:06] <Wolfeyes> try that then JaxonM, click the one with freenode in.
[20:06] <JaxonM> Only one on the bottom (the chat tab)
[20:06] <JaxonM> Or rather, the chat edit box
[20:06] <JaxonM> Okay..
[20:08] <JaxonM> It actually works!
[20:09] <JaxonM> Slight problem is...I used a test password and email
[20:09] <JaxonM> It says it should expire within 24 hours though, so I'll redo it tomorrow (saved the instructions)
[20:09] <Wolfeyes> lol
[20:09] <Wolfeyes> awesome
[20:28] <superfly> JaxonM: this is IRC, not Ubuntu ;-)
[20:28] <superfly> JaxonM: have you used Steam on Ubuntu recently?
[20:29] <JaxonM> lol
[20:30] <JaxonM> I don't do much gaming hey
[20:30] <JaxonM> I've used Steam on Win 7
[20:31] <JaxonM> Life has been hectic/busy the last few years with my chasing my BSc degree through Unisa and job hopping. Not much gaming there
[20:31] <superfly> Talking of Steam... massive winter sale. 60% off Civ: Beyond Earth.
[20:31] <JaxonM> You do gaming on Ubuntu?
[20:33] <Wolfeyes> heya superfly
[20:33] <superfly> A bit.
[20:33] <superfly> sup Wolfeyes
[20:33] <Wolfeyes> trying to relax.... work been hectic.... will continue with the serer tomorrow
[20:33] <superfly> shhhh don't tell the wife
[20:34] <Wolfeyes> ha ha ha ha
[20:34]  * superfly has another 2 games in his inventory
[20:34] <superfly> Steam is bad for your wallet!
[20:35] <superfly> JaxonM: oh, might want to get yourself a real IRC client as well. I think you can use Hexchat on Ubuntu
[20:35] <superfly> Ki<tab> 
[20:35] <superfly> darn, he's gone
[20:36] <JaxonM> I'll search for it
[20:36] <Wolfeyes> he is here
[20:36] <Wolfeyes> lol
[20:36] <JaxonM> Though I see nothing wrong with the web interface
[20:36] <JaxonM> Maybe I'm old school
[20:37] <JaxonM> This reminds me of my first experience with the web - the Big Black Box with MWeb
[20:38] <superfly> Anyway, back to the real reason I wanted to log into Steam, to see if I can get Sublevel Zero working decently on my machine.
[20:38] <Wolfeyes> mmmm
[20:39] <Wolfeyes> That looks pretty cool
[20:39] <superfly> Why does TF2 want to update all the time?!
[20:39] <superfly> Wolfeyes: did you ever play Descent back in the day?
[20:39] <Wolfeyes> nope
[20:40] <Wolfeyes> had to much work to do lol, but maybe I will start again.
[20:40] <JaxonM> TBT, I run Win 10 on VBox on Ubuntu, specifically for games (hides)
[20:41] <JaxonM> My days of meddling with WineX, etc are over
[20:41] <superfly> JaxonM: that can't be that great, can it?
[20:41] <JaxonM> With sufficient RAM allocated to the VM, it's okayish
[20:41] <JaxonM> Besides... DX12
[20:42] <superfly> JaxonM: to be honest, I have largely stuck to games that are actually made to run on Linux. I've been able to find most of my games available for Linux.
[20:42] <Wolfeyes> interesting
[20:42] <superfly> Also, I'm quite into my indie games (with a large thanks to the Humble Bundles), so I don't play all those COD and BF3trillion type games
[20:42] <JaxonM> Is there a list somewhere? Of titles that are available for Linux
[20:43] <Wolfeyes> indie games?
[20:43] <JaxonM> I generally lap up whatever EA, Ubisoft and the big guys throw at me
[20:43] <superfly> http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux
[20:44] <superfly> Wolfeyes: Independent games, AKA stuff that JaxonM doesn't know about ;-)
[20:44] <Wolfeyes> ha ha ha
[20:45] <Wolfeyes> <--- learnign too
[20:45] <Wolfeyes> learning*
[20:46] <superfly> See? told you Steam sales are bad... I've got another game...
[20:46] <JaxonM> lol
[20:46] <JaxonM> *Looks at Unity*
[20:46] <JaxonM> I need to update my version
[20:47] <Wolfeyes> You running these games through kde superfly?
[20:47] <superfly> Wolfeyes: yes
[20:47] <JaxonM> I only have a single title that I created over a weekend: made to run on Windows and Android
[20:47] <superfly> Wolfeyes: well, you install the Steam client, and then you run that. Done.
[20:48] <Wolfeyes> makes notes
[20:48] <superfly> JaxonM: with Unity you should be able to just "deploy to Linux" and done? At least so I've been told.
[20:52] <Wolfeyes> think he lost connection again
[20:53] <qwebirc47853> Goodness
[20:53] <JaxonM> Goodness
[20:54] <JaxonM> Unstable connection...
[20:54] <Wolfeyes> so it seems
[20:54] <JaxonM> Superfly, what was the name of that app?
[20:54] <superfly> JaxonM: I think it's called hexchat
[20:54] <JaxonM> I'll search for it in Software Centre
[20:55] <JaxonM> Found it
[20:55] <Wolfeyes> superfly: installing wine do you have to agree to some eula license?
[20:55] <superfly> Wolfeyes: no, it's open source
[20:56] <Wolfeyes> Then I have no clue why the package configuartion is asking me to do so now!
[20:57] <Wolfeyes> Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer 
[20:57] <superfly> oh, that's why
[20:58] <superfly> that's not wine, that's the Windows fonts.
[20:58] <Wolfeyes> okay
[20:58] <Wolfeyes> okay
[20:58] <jaxonM_> I will log out of my other account
[20:58] <Wolfeyes> well I was installing wine when it asked for that.
[20:59] <superfly> Wolfeyes: ja, wine asks for those fonts to be installed so that you have a more Windows-like experience ;-)
[21:00] <Wolfeyes> brb
[21:00]  * superfly is going to try to get Sublevel Zero working now
[21:01] <Wolfeyes> lol
[21:05] <jaxonM_> A
[21:07] <superfly> B
[21:08] <Wolfeyes> >W
[21:09] <Wolfeyes> :-P
[21:14] <jaxonM_> I thought I got kicked out
[21:14] <jaxonM_> Turns out that's my other account
[21:15] <jaxonM_> So superfly, what else are you into?
[21:29] <superfly> jaxonM_: lots of stuff
[21:29] <superfly> :-P
[21:30] <Wolfeyes> Have you succeeded superfly?
[21:31] <superfly> Wolfeyes: negative. it doesn't seem to load. I'm going to post in the forums and see if they have some sort of way to generate a debug log
[21:31] <Wolfeyes> mmmm
[21:32] <superfly> played a level in Descent though.
[21:33] <Wolfeyes> ha ha ha
[21:33] <Wolfeyes> I will check it out and play when I go to kilos
[21:36] <jaxonM_> What genres are these?
[21:36] <jaxonM_> Seems a lot has changed since my days of CnC 
[21:51] <Wolfeyes> wb dekr4ken
[21:51] <Wolfeyes> night everyone