[00:00] <m15k> but I think I need to go to bed. It's late in europe... Kinda part of the problem :D
[00:02] <m15k> cya
[00:08] <melodie> hi
[00:08] <melodie> is there any ecryptfs guru here? A friend came this afternoon with an encrypted hard drive which does not boot anymore
[00:09] <melodie> the drive is good : WHDD and smartmontools tested
[00:09] <melodie> the passphrase is known
[00:09] <melodie> we have a copy of the partition where it's encrypted with the Ubuntu 14.04 installer : no way to mount it. How can we do that?
[00:11] <nicomachus> melodie: follow these instructions to get it mounted from a live session or whatever you have: https://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[00:12] <melodie> nicomachus I have a Ubuntu 15.04 and a file dumped using WHDD (a full file containing the full content of the hard drive : /dev/sdd2 here)
[00:15] <melodie> nicomachus I tried the Luks command before, I'll try the udisksctl commands in a moment
[00:15] <melodie> thanks:!
[00:25] <guest85730> whats the difference between compiling kernel from source(kernel.org) and installing via repo? also any side effects on installing newest kernel?
[00:26] <daftykins> ubuntu's kernels have tweaks on top of the kernel.org ones
[00:26] <daftykins> yes installing from kernel.org is idiotic
[00:26] <daftykins> !mainline
[00:26] <daftykins> unless you are having specific problems there's no reason to be chasing version numbers
[00:27] <b-yeezi> Anyone going to UbuConn/Scale? I
[00:27] <ddellav> yea, unless you have some specific need that the base kernel provides it's rarely worth the trouble
[00:27] <b-yeezi> I'm thinking about it
[00:28] <daftykins> b-yeezi: #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[00:28] <guest85730> thanks
[00:28] <daftykins> OS support only in here
[00:28] <b-yeezi> sweet thanks
[00:28] <guest85730> so to have latest kernel just get it from repo?
[00:29] <guest85730> since its specifically tweaked?
[00:29] <nicomachus> guest85730: there's no real reason to have the "latest kernel"
[00:30] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings
[00:30] <pr3d4t0r> Er, Greetings.
[00:31] <Abe> hello I am trying to format an mp3 player if I do mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1
[00:31] <Abe> it tells me permission denied or if I type sudo it tells me mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdc1 contains a mounted filesystem.
[00:32] <ddellav> guest85730, yes, just apt-get update and upgrade and you should get the latest kernel recommended for your ubuntu version.
[00:32] <guest85730> you mean dist-upgrade?
[00:33] <k1l> guest85730: yes, apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:33] <k1l> guest85730: yes, apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:33] <guest85730> got it
[00:33] <k1l> guest85730: but that will stay on the 3.13 or 13.19 kernel path you are already on.
[00:33] <ddellav> dist-upgrade will increment your ubuntu version, i.e. from trusty to vivid. That's going to change much more than your kernel
[00:33] <guest85730> thanks
[00:35] <daftykins> Abe: you need to unmount it first.
[00:35] <daftykins> sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[00:35] <Abe> weird that makes no sense but thanks
[00:35] <daftykins> it does 'cause it was automounted
[00:36] <Abe> still doesn't
[00:37] <Abe> but thank you daftykins it works I will remember next time
[00:37] <daftykins> the error should've changed at least
[00:37] <daftykins> ah i see
[00:37] <Abe> yes it's formatted now
[00:37] <daftykins> well you can't format something that's being accessed :>
[00:37] <ddellav> yea you'd think it should be mounted to make changes but that's not how it works. Filesystem changes need to be done when the disk is unmounted to insure no active reads or writes are going on
[00:37] <Abe> ok if you say it that way, then it makes much more sense
[00:38] <joe_dm_> Hey guys. I hear Ubuntu has gone non-PPA? can anybody elaborate on this?
[00:38] <k1l> joe_dm_: no. no changes there
[00:39] <daftykins> joe_dm_: sounds like you're being told lies :)
[00:39] <joe_dm_> 15.10
[00:39] <k1l> joe_dm_: except you refer to the "snappy core" but that will not be merged into the regular desktop install anytime soon
[00:40] <joe_dm_> 15.10 is current desktop isnt it?
[00:40] <daftykins> yes
[00:41] <joe_dm_> I'm confused. Does anybody know what they would be referring to if they said it had gone non-PPA?
[00:42] <k1l> joe_dm_: no. ubuntu didnt change
[00:42] <daftykins> no, sounds like a person speaking that doesn't know what they're saying
[00:42] <joe_dm_> hmmm okay
[00:42] <k1l> so  that is might be related to some specific software or package
[00:43] <joe_dm_> k1l, i think you're right.
[00:44] <k1l> joe_dm_: maybe some software was included into ubuntu now and there is no ppa needed. but that is just a guess
[00:44] <joe_dm_> yeah. that's exactly what it is. makes sense reading back.
[00:44] <joe_dm_> it's about ZFS. must be included in 15.10 now
[00:45] <joe_dm_> which in itself if pretty exciting i must say
[00:45] <Abe> Ok directly another question, I have an really old laptop sitting here, probably laying around here for years... there's windows xp on it, I'm a little bored and want to put lubuntu on it, thats why I needed that mp3 player for, Idk If I can boot from USB on that thing, If it doesn't let me choose USB are there ways to force it to boot up from USB? cuz I don't have a blank CD just DVD's and it doesn't have a DVD drive just CD ^^ ?
[00:46] <joe_dm_> Abe, If it can't boot USB then this is a bios thing... not much you can do to force it. I'd be surprised if it can't though. even XP's day could usually boot USB.
[00:47] <joe_dm_> Abe, another option if you are feeling really creative is to play with PXE boot
[00:48] <daftykins> Abe: i think an older lubuntu fits on CD still, but an XP era machine would likely have 512MB or less of RAM which i would say is a waste of time
[00:51] <Rave1> Abe   plop boot manager will  help you to boot USB on machines that would not normaly be able to do it
[00:51] <Abe> Rave1: yes i've heard about plop linux
[00:51] <TJ-> joe_dm_: ZFS is included in the Ubuntu kernel for 16.04
[00:52] <Abe> Rave1: never used or did anything with it though
[00:52] <Rave1> https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
[00:52] <nicomachus> Abe: it's not "Plop linux", it's just a boot manager, but it is handy if you have old hardware that won't boot off of a USB
[00:52] <TJ-> Abe: look at the 'plopkexec' tool especially
[00:53] <TJ-> nicomachus: it is actually, it's a minimal Linux with the USB drivers, and the kernel's inbuilt initrd image
[00:53] <nicomachus> the problem is that Plop has to be put on a CD....
[00:53] <nicomachus> TJ-: oh. well. TIL.
[00:53] <TJ-> nicomachus: no, plopkexec works off Floppy, too
[00:53] <Abe> daftykins: I know it's a waste of time... it has 1 gb ram pentium 4 i think :D
[00:53] <nicomachus> yea but who has a floppy lying around?
[00:53] <Rave1> sure but most machines will boot a CD   I have it on floppy too for the real oldies
[00:53] <TJ-> there's 2 versions of 'plop' plopkexec 1.3 will work from floppy; the later 2.0 needs CD
[00:54] <TJ-> nicomachus: me! USB floppy drive
[00:54] <nicomachus> lol, you would. :P
[00:54]  * daftykins has a real one, with no host to put it in
[00:54] <daftykins> anywho, bed ;)
[00:54] <TJ-> nicomachus: the floppy image is good for writing to a CD though, for BIOSes that will emulate only a floppy on CD
[00:54] <nllrte> hi, is there somewhere i can find out exactly what packages make up a minimal install?
[00:55] <TJ-> nicomachus: ISO9660 boots can emulate hard-disk, floppy-disk, or be pure ISO9660/El Torito
[00:56] <Jimni> What can I do with an Acer Aspire that seems to have something weird connected to it
[00:56] <TJ-> Jimni: snip it off?
[00:56] <Jimni> I'm kind of new to this site very nice to respire or 11 anos doing is rebooting itself itself
[00:57] <nicomachus> what's the "weird" connection look like?
[00:57] <nicomachus> can you take a picture?
[01:01] <deltarave> hello
[01:01] <lin_lin13> morning everyone!
[01:01] <lin_lin13> 早上好
[01:02] <lin_lin13> 这里可以使用中文吗
[01:02] <deltarave> ya kk un ????????????
[01:02] <deltarave> parlez pas chinois lol
[01:02] <nicomachus> !cn | lin_lin13
[01:03] <deltarave> :/
[01:03] <lin_lin13> ok
[01:03] <k1l> !fr | deltarave
[01:03] <lin_lin13> thank
[01:03] <deltarave> ok
[01:06] <awuah> i need help
[01:07] <nicomachus> !ask | awuah
[01:09] <deltarave> hi
[01:09] <deltarave> i can speak english
[01:09] <deltarave> but how to join french chanel pklease
[01:09] <k1l> deltarave: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:10] <nicomachus> deltarave: type '/join #ubuntu-fr' without the quotes
[01:10] <nicomachus> k1l beats me to it again...
[01:10] <Abe> It gives me the boot options: Internal HDD, CD Drive, Cardbus NIC, C/Port II or C/Dock II NIC, and Onboard NIC... Idk what any of those are besides HDD and CD Drive... Is one of those USB?
[01:11] <nicomachus> Abe: none of those appear to be USB. Is this an older laptop?
[01:12] <Abe> nicomachus: yes
[01:12] <Abe> So do I have to try this plop thing ?
[01:12] <nicomachus> yea, you'll definitely need to boot off of a CD or with a bootmanager like Plop, as mentioned earlier. plop is probably your best bet.
[01:13] <Abe> Ok I will find a tutorial I only have blank DVD :/ not Cd's... it wouldn't fit on a CD anyway
[01:14] <Rave1> Abe  plop exe fits on a floppy so it will certainly fit on a CD
[01:14] <Rave1> CD drive will not even see a DVD
[01:15] <Abe> Rave1: well i am trying to get lubuntu on it (at least I will learn something :D )
[01:15] <Rave1> ABe sure why not
[01:26] <sudersan_> Hi i have a problem
[01:26] <joe_dm_> sudersan_, the world is a hard place. :(
[01:26] <nicomachus> sudersan_: what's the problem?
[01:27] <sudersan_> i recently freshly installed ubuntu 15.10 verything works fine but often it logs me out automatically ,i even reinstalled the os again and yet i am facing the same problem
[01:28] <not_w3ccv> sudersan_, How often does it log you out - on a regular time??
[01:29] <Guest13614> hi
[01:29] <sudersan_> its random mostly when i try to intereact with the os becoz when i leave it the whole day it does not log out but when i try to interact it logs me out randomly
[01:30] <nolsen> Is there a way to figure out which dependencies goes to which program? So I can see what to keep on apt-get autoremove and what to not.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> nolsen: ' apt-cache depends <package> ' .
[01:34] <Abe> need a cd for that to, so can't do it.. doesn't matter
[01:35] <Abe> just put it back to it's dusty little corner
[01:35] <nicomachus> Abe: don't give up now! CDs are cheap
[01:36] <Abe> nicomachus: I will get a CD but not today anyway
[01:36] <xangua> Get a usb
[01:36] <joe_dm_> Abe, can you install ubuntu from windows?
[01:36] <Loshki> sudersan_: actually logs you out, or the screensave kicks in and you have to type a password to get back in?
[01:37] <nicomachus> xangua: he can't boot from it, needs Plop. but it can't read DVD, so he needs a CD for plop
[01:37] <Abe> joe_dm_: Idk can you?
[01:37] <nicomachus> Abe: joe_dm_ no
[01:37] <joe_dm_> Abe, I know ubuntu desktop used to have a hybrid installer that you start from windows that lets you setup a dual boot os
[01:37] <nicomachus> joe_dm_: it's dead. and thank tux for that.
[01:37] <awuah> i need help
[01:37] <Abe> joe_dm_: I know you are talking about wubi.. but thats not a real install
[01:37] <joe_dm_> Thanks tux
[01:38] <awuah> how can i find the password for wifi
[01:38] <nicomachus> yea... daftykins got me saying it. keeps me from using language in the channel I can't. :)
[01:38] <joe_dm_> awuah, brute force
[01:38] <awuah> in ubuntu
[01:38] <Loshki> Didn't wubi disappear some time ago. It was buggy as all get out, anyway.
[01:38] <nicomachus> awuah: do you not have the password for your own wifi?
[01:38] <Abe> Loshki: No they removed support for it a long Time ago
[01:39] <awuah> no
[01:39] <joe_dm_> awuah, log into the access point and check in there
[01:40] <awuah> is huawei wifi
[01:40] <awuah> how can i find the password for that is there any software for that pls
[01:40] <VirtualNeal> let it be known that spaceX just successfully landed the falcon 9 back safely
[01:40] <joe_dm_> the manufacturer doesn't help much. what's the security protocol?
[01:41] <joe_dm_> awuah, do you have it cached locally?
[01:41] <Abe> Loshki: ?removed support? they don't support it anymore...
[01:41] <awuah> which is the mac address
[01:41] <nicomachus> VirtualNeal: they did. :). discussion is in #ubuntu-offtopic for that, though
[01:41] <awuah> is yes
[01:41] <awuah> i have it here
[01:42] <joe_dm_> awuah, mac address won't help you much unless you're talking about hacking the password.
[01:42] <Loshki> Abe: we're in violent agreement. Wubi is no more (and lasted longer than it should've anyway)
[01:42] <sudersan_> Loshi no not the screen saver it logs me out , it shows a black screen with 3 line of some writings then takes mw to login screen
[01:42] <nicomachus> joe_dm_: be warned, brute forcing a password is NOT supported here, and discussion of such is NOT ok here.
[01:42] <joe_dm_> nicomachus, i'm trying to work out if he is trying to brute or retreive cached only.
[01:42] <joe_dm_> awuah, look at this maybe http://itsfoss.com/how-to-find-saved-wireless-wifi-passwords-ubuntu/
[01:43] <Loshki> sudersan_: any idea what the 3 lines say. Also, is there anything in the logs when it happens?
[01:44] <awuah> joe dm how  can i hacking
[01:44] <Loshki> sudersan_: Also, anything special about your distro/version that you haven't mentioned yet?
[01:44] <awuah> the wifi
[01:44] <awuah> pls
[01:44] <ad4my> what?
[01:44] <OerHeks> awuah, wrong channel for that, and offtopic here.
[01:45] <joe_dm_> awuah, like nicomachus said, we can't talk about that here. if you ahve the password cached you can get it back from your local PC. if you don't know the password, never knew the password and can't access the router locally... then we can't help
[01:45] <ad4my> just hard reset your router and re-set it up.
[01:45] <awuah> how can i get my wifi password
[01:45] <Abe> Loshki: Yeah I used Wubi years ago when I've first heard of Ubuntu and tried it out... but didn't use Ubuntu for a couple more years until I made it my main Os.
[01:45] <OerHeks> awuah, ask the wifi owner
[01:45] <awuah> is word is modem
[01:45] <joe_dm_> awuah, take a network cable. connect to the router physically and then go onto the web UI of the router. from there you can get the password.
[01:45] <awuah> you can reset it pls
[01:46] <joe_dm_> awuah, either way, this isn't an Ubuntu question.
[01:46] <nicomachus> awuah: try ##networking
[01:46] <sudersan_> i dont know what they say i forgot , the distro version is ubuntu 15.10 , the error was something like xorg core seems to crash i am newbie :(
[01:46] <Abe> awuah: look under you router ?
[01:46] <joe_dm_> awuah, if you PM I can help talk you through connecting to the router if you have physical access to it.
[01:46] <Abe> awuah: call your ISP ?
[01:46] <Abe> awuah: connect via LAN
[01:48] <joe_dm_> awuah, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/43071-43-find-change-wireless-security
[01:48] <nicomachus> !ot | all networking talk belongs in ##networking
[01:48] <Loshki> sudersan_: An xorg crash would do it. Consider trying 14.04 instead. It's an LTS and thus likely to be more stable, and will be better for a newbie all around.
[01:49] <Loshki> sudersan_: did this machine ever work properly? An overnight memtest might also be worth running.
[01:50] <sudersan_> i have used 14.4 15.04 , never faced that problem but i would like to stay with the  latest version ,it does work properly i even ran it th whole night yesterday for updating no problem at all
[01:52] <sudersan_> ok its just now logged meout againwhile watching video in vlc :(
[01:55] <haneefmubarak> So I have a library `libxyz.so`, but when I link to it using `gcc file.c -lxyz -o a.out` and run `./a.out`, I get the error `./a.out: error while loading shared libraries: libxyz.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory`
[01:56] <haneefmubarak> So why does the system expect `libxyz.so.0` when I tried to link it against `libxyz.so`?
[02:02] <TJ-> haneefmubarak: its the SONAME
[02:03] <blugingress> Hi, My VirtualBOX guest host having a problom of not catching CTRL event... I think my Ubunto 15.10 have set the ‘ Highlight the pointer when you press Ctrl ‘... But I could not find where to close the option.. Any help?
[02:05] <nicomachus> blugingress: in the Virtualbox options at the top, there should be "Devices", and then shared mouse/keyboard options. mess with those. Beyond that, ask the folks in #vbox
[02:06] <blugingress> nicomachus, I am checking
[02:14] <easy> +
[02:18] <blugingress> nicomachus, It dose not solved the problem. The master_host system capture the CTRL key and does not pass to the guest box...
[02:19] <nicomachus> blugingress: interesting. what's the host OS and guest OS?
[02:20] <blugingress> nicomachus, Now I need to find the option of mouse ‘ Highlight the pointer when you press Ctrl ‘.... these is where CTRL event lost..
[02:20] <nicomachus> blugingress: try asking in #vbox, it's not really supported here.
[02:20] <elduendedelamusi> hi
[02:21] <blugingress> nicomachus, the host system is Ubuntu 15.10, There are serveral guest running on Virtual box: gentoo, Kali, Windows8, etc...
[02:21] <blugingress> nicomachus, All guest host can not get the CTRL key evetn.
[02:21] <nicomachus> blugingress: sounds like a virtualbox issue. ask the guys in #vbox...
[02:22] <xcelq> blugingress: qemu clearly better :P
[02:22] <mattliladell> t see ubuntu store on ubuntu matte
[02:22] <blugingress> nicomachus, No, this is not the Virtual box issue. It is the CTRL event NOT pass to VirtualBOx
[02:23] <nicomachus> blugingress: because the virtualbox settings are not correct.
[02:23] <mattliladell> I wand download a wine and I do not see ubuntu store on ubuntu matte
[02:23] <xcelq> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:23] <blugingress> nicomachus, All the virtual box guest working well ... I dont touch anything to VirtualBOX
[02:24] <nicomachus> blugingress: regardless, it's a problem of virtualbox not accepting the CTRL event. this is not handled by the Host OS, it is handled by Virtualbox.
[02:24] <mattliladell> thanks
[02:24] <blugingress> nicomachus, Since I touch some Keysetting in Ubuntu.
[02:25] <nicomachus> mattliladell: you can also install software center with "sudo apt-get install software-center"
[02:25] <nicomachus> blugingress: I'm not sure, I'm sorry. My only experience with virtualbox is with Windows as Host. Perhaps someone else can help you.
[02:25] <blugingress> Now I just need to find out where can i toggle the option of "Highlight the pointer when you press Ctrl"
[02:26] <blugingress> nicomachus, OK
[02:26] <blugingress> That is why I ask help in Ubuntu.
[02:27] <blugingress> In the Ubuntu system setting of Ubuntu, there is no such setting. weird....
[02:30] <blugingress> A Virtual ticket, But the problem is from the HOST.. https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/122
[02:30] <nicomachus> blugingress: that's 9 years old...
[02:31] <nicomachus> blugingress: what version of virtualbox are you on?
[02:34] <blugingress> nicomachus, 5.0.10-dfsg-2ubuntu1
[02:35] <blugingress> nicomachus, The basic   1:1.4.6-1                    amd64                        X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
[02:35] <blugingress> ii  xserver-xorg-video-trident                      1:1.3.7-1                    amd64                        X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
[02:35] <blugingress> ii  xserver-xorg-video-vesa                         1:2.3.4-0ubuntu1             amd64                        X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
[02:36] <blugingress> Sorry, mistake of mouse paste..
[02:36] <nicomachus> !paste | blugingress use this
[02:38] <blugingress> nicomachus, as long as basic mechanical of VirtualBox unchange, It will has no big deal with the versions. event the ticket is 9 years ago..
[02:40] <rahuldev> hi
[02:41] <rahuldev> In terminal is there any way to know how much internet speed is used by what program?
[02:42] <mattliladell> How I install flash player on ubuntu Matte please
[02:42] <nicomachus> rahuldev: netstat
[02:43] <nicomachus> mattliladell: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:43] <rahuldev> thanks nicomachus
[02:44] <xcelq> i use the chromium pepperflash
[02:45] <mattliladell> I have just firefox browser
[02:45] <mattliladell> with ubuntu Matte no thing
[02:45] <nicomachus> mattliladell: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:45] <pauljw> blugingress, not sure it is what you need, but if you open vbox manager and go to file;preferences;input you may be able to change the associated hotkeys.
[02:45] <xcelq> mattliladell: i use chromium on ubuntu mate :P
[02:52] <mattliladell> Can I Have a ubuntu store on ubuntu Matte
[02:52] <nicomachus> mattliladell: sudo apt-get install software-center
[02:52] <mattliladell> I ca not install anything
[02:53] <blugingress> pauljw, the problem is the Virtual won't get the CTRL keys from the host system...
[02:54] <blugingress> pauljw, the problem is the VirtualBOX won't get the CTRL keys from the host system...
[02:54] <blugingress> pauljw, No matter whatever you do under VirtualBox
[02:54] <pauljw> oh, sorry no idea then
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:57] <mattliladell> How I nstall flash player on ubuntu Matte
[02:58] <yigal> mattliladell: what do you need it for?
[02:58] <yigal> excuse me mattliladell
[02:58] <yigal> but it matters
[02:59] <yigal> mattliladell: in general you can simply use Chrome's built in Flash for most things, if it's a commericial DRM related issue.
[02:59] <somsip> mattliladell: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer (as you were told before)
[02:59] <mattliladell> how i install chrome on ubuntu matte
[02:59] <mattliladell> we have not ubuntu store
[03:00] <Mitch> google chrome
[03:00] <easy> +
[03:00] <somsip> mattliladell: so this is Mate?
[03:00] <Mitch> they offer an installer on their website
[03:00] <yigal> mattliladell: do you mean Ubuntu MATE?
[03:00] <somsip> !mate | mattliladell
[03:00] <mattliladell> yes
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | mattliladell
[03:00] <nicomachus> mattliladell: I've given you the command to install the "ubuntu store" 3 times now
[03:01] <nicomachus> mattliladell: open a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install software-center"
[03:02] <mattliladell> I have a message E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:03] <mattliladell> why
[03:03] <blugingress> pauljw, I can prove it by: running "xev" in guest system, All keys touch catches events except the Left control Key.
[03:03] <jayar> getting "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]" when using apt-get update...
[03:04] <OerHeks> !utopic
[03:04] <yigal> mattliladell: this is an indication that something is using the Apt, package database
[03:04] <pauljw> well it's rt cntrl that is the hot key blugingress
[03:05] <mattliladell> If I restart my computer
[03:05] <mattliladell> I wil have a message or not
[03:05] <nicomachus> mattliladell: it's because another program is currently installing.
[03:05] <nicomachus> mattliladell: are you installing something else right now?
[03:06] <OerHeks> maybe there are updates waiting, mattliladell
[03:06] <OerHeks> i thought mate comes with softwarecenter/appgrid
[03:06] <mattliladell> in the first I installed wine but flash player I have this message
[03:07] <nicomachus> OerHeks: everything I'm reading online says it was removed in 15.10 default .iso
[03:07] <nicomachus> OerHeks: https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-and-ubuntu-software-center/
[03:12] <dk00> is it possible to download an image of ubuntu server from the shell?
[03:13] <dk00> of a running ubuntu server
[03:13] <yigal> dk00: of course using bittorrent, curl, wget
[03:13] <somsip> dk00: you would have to create the image first
[03:14] <yigal> dk00: so not an iso but an image, my apologies what type of image?
[03:14] <dk00> so the image can be created while its running?
[03:14] <somsip> dk00: depends on the file system for a true atomic copy
[03:14] <dk00> i am tyring to backup the entire thing in case i need to re installi tin the future
[03:15] <somsip> dk00: then you need an FS that supports snapshotting, or be prepared to stop running services while you tar the whole thing up (or similar)
[03:15] <dk00> whats the easiest way to back it up?
[03:15] <somsip> !backup | dk00
[03:15] <dk00> thanks guys
[03:15] <mattliladell> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:16] <nicomachus> mattliladell: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:16] <mattliladell> Can I khow what is tis eror
[03:16] <xcelq> dk00: if your not afraid of google services and have a android i would backup with drive imo
[03:16] <yigal> mattliladell: it is a general error that something isn't quite right with the Apt, package database
[03:16] <easy> open a terminal (ctrl+alt+t) type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer hit enter type in your password (stays invisable) hit enter the 'y' when it asks
[03:16] <nicomachus> mattliladell: it's exactly as it says there. :) dpkg was interrupted, but you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:17] <yigal> mattliladell: if you restarted the server, or stopped the Apt process this is what you can expect to see
[03:17] <dk00> i am subscribed to google drive
[03:18] <nick-8998> Has anyone got a suggest on how to learn the command line?
[03:18] <xcelq> nick-8998: immerge your self into it
[03:18] <xcelq> don't use graphical till you need too
[03:18] <yigal> nick-8998: yes, just use it for daily tasks
[03:18] <somsip> !bash | nick-8998
[03:18] <nicomachus> nick-8998: codecademy.com has a really great free course on the command line for basic stuff.
[03:19] <xcelq> http://reddit.com/r/commandline and if you are okay to reddit
[03:19] <xcelq> this has good suggestion
[03:19] <nicomachus> nick-8998: seriously, this is a great course: https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
[03:19] <nick-8998> Thanks for the suggestions, are there any docs also?
[03:19] <somsip> nick-8998: man man (in a terminal)
[03:20] <xcelq> ^
[03:20] <mattliladell> i install software-center and I want khow how I see this
[03:21] <niriven> hi, do i want to use 15.10 or LTS if i want to play steam games / stability and stuff. I come from years and years of gentoo, FreeBSD, Arch. Just want to settle into something stable that works long time (with steam games) :)
[03:21] <xcelq> niriven: i would use lts if you want to use steam games
[03:21] <nicomachus> niriven: there's really no difference.
[03:21] <xcelq> and something that works for a real time
[03:21] <nicomachus> mattliladell: again... "sudo apt-get install software-center"
[03:21] <niriven> xcelq: ok sounds good, thanks.
[03:22] <mattliladell> on the top I do not see this
[03:22] <mattliladell> I installed it
[03:23] <nicomachus> mattliladell: it's in there, may have to search for it.
[03:23] <mattliladell> ok
[03:23] <nick-8998> how do you navigate though man man
[03:24] <somsip> nick-8998: space, backspace, / to search
[03:24] <Daniken> is there a ppa for the latest amd graphics drivers?
[03:24] <somsip> !ppa | Daniken (search here)
[03:25] <easy> +
[03:25] <mattliladell> ok
[03:26] <somsip> !pm | Daniken
[03:27] <xcelq> nick-8998: space bar
[03:27] <nick-8998> Thank you
[03:30] <xcelq> nick-8998: also if your looking at cli application
[03:30] <xcelq> search "archwiki list of application"
[03:30] <xcelq> go to the clis ection of each section
[03:31] <vmusr> how can i install ubuntu server 14.04 on software raid1 via mdadm ? Grub install always fails? Didnt find anything on google
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !raid | vmusr
[03:40] <easy> quit
[03:41] <TJ-> vmusr: you'll need to use the mdadm RAID1 in partitions, so GRUB can load from a raw disk. best way is to mirror each partition and "grub-install /dev/sda && grub-install /dev/sdb"
[03:42] <QuadCopter> Enter to #win a DJI Phantom III Advanced Drone #QuadCopter http://bit.do/WinADroneQuadcopter
[03:42] <glenco2> My screen goes to black and white for about 10 seconds and then back to color for 10 seconds. Wierd
[03:42] <QuadCopter> Only two days left to enter.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> QuadCopter: no spam here please
[03:42] <QuadCopter> Ok
[03:42] <QuadCopter> Enter to #win a DJI Phantom III Advanced Drone #QuadCopter http://bit.do/WinADroneQuadcopter
[03:42] <QuadCopter> Bye
[03:46] <nemo_> i just did a clean reinstall of 15.10
[03:46] <SevenOdessa> first time here
[03:46] <nicomachus> glenco2: odd... anything in /var/log/xorg.0.log
[03:46] <nicomachus> ?
[03:46] <nemo_> when I boot up though it no longer reads live cds
[03:46] <nemo_> how do i change this?
[03:46] <SevenOdessa> Can i Know if am I anonymous in Xchat?
[03:46] <nemo_> from the terminal
[03:46] <nicomachus> SevenOdessa: talk to #freenode
[03:47] <SevenOdessa> how?
[03:47] <nicomachus> SevenOdessa: /join #freenode
[03:47] <SevenOdessa> okk
[03:47] <nicomachus> SevenOdessa: right now you are not anonymous at all. ask for a cloak in #freenode
[03:47] <SevenOdessa> thanks
[03:47] <glenco2> don't know how to get to  /var/log/xorg.0.log
[03:47] <xcelq> SevenOdessa: /whois SevenOdessa
[03:47] <xcelq> that how you know
[03:48] <nemo_> hmmm
[03:48] <nemo_> I am SebastianTCL
[03:48] <nemo_> why does it say username already in use
[03:48] <nemo_> I am that username
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> oh wait no
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> double loggin
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> :D
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> so how do i get the system to read live cds again on boot
[03:49] <nicomachus> glenco2: open a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/xorg.0.log" and then paste the link here
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> and by how i mean what is the command prompt that fixes everything in this case
[03:49] <SebastianTCL> the cli line
[03:51] <SebastianTCL> I am not being thorough enough, I apologize.
[03:51] <nicomachus> SebastianTCL: try to say it all in one line please. :)
[03:52] <SebastianTCL> I inserted the live cd for 15.10, installed the distro using the whole disk, now when I insert a new live cd for a different distro the boot sequence logs into ubuntu
[03:52] <SebastianTCL> how can i change this and by how i mean what cli line do i have to type to fix this
[03:52] <joe__> new user this pm.
[03:52] <somsip> SebastianTCL: whatever triggers your BIOS to boot from a different source - ESC maybe?
[03:52] <nicomachus> SebastianTCL: you need to select the boot order from your BIOS
[03:52] <SebastianTCL> into what order nicomachus?
[03:52] <SebastianTCL> i dont want to mess things up
[03:52] <vmusr> TJ-: what do you mean in partitions ?
[03:54] <TJ-> vmusr: well, if you have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, GPT partition them identically with say sda1 for 'BIOS Boot'  sda2 sda3 ..., sdb1 for 'BIOS boot', sdb2 sdb3 ...
[03:54] <TJ-> vmusr: then create your RAID devices on sda2+sdb2, sda3+sdb3, etc
[03:55] <TJ-> vmusr: then install grub manually to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb - it'll use those 'BIOS boot' partitions for its core image
[03:59] <vmusr> TJ-: okay havent tried that one so far, i guess by default the installer uses mbr
[04:01] <TJ-> vmusr: it may do, I think it sometimes depends on the disk size, but not too sure. different release versions do different things. The key thing for a mirror is that GRUB cannot write to them, so for its purpose you need to treat the disks as 2 independents - whichever the BIOS chooses to boot from, it'll then work
[04:02] <nicomachus> SebastianTCL: you just want to set it to boot from the CD
[04:03] <SebastianTCL> so boot from live cd is first and then what s second
[04:03] <nicomachus> SebastianTCL: HDD
[04:08] <de-facto> boot into a live session, test if everything works (you may install things in a ramdisk without changes to hdd), if it suits your needs you may invoke the installer and write it on hdd, then reboot SebastianTCL
[04:08] <nicomachus> de-facto: he's already installed... he's just trying to boot the live session again
[04:09] <janesmith> I'm a little confused. I just plugged in an extra drive, did a DF to see what it was called, and I have all this extra stuff. What is it?
[04:09] <janesmith> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2e6192bd828535e59e82
[04:09] <django_> Hello all Im trying to create an SSH Key and am stuck on the file logic
[04:09] <somsip> janesmith: it's all quite normal. Do you want a full explanation?
[04:09] <django_> it says: "Enter file in which to save the key (/demo/.ssh/id_rsa):"
[04:10] <SebastianTCL> de-facto, I have already installed ubuntu
[04:10] <de-facto_> ok
[04:10] <SebastianTCL> I just need to get it to read live cds again
[04:11] <janesmith> somsip: hm... I guess not.  What's udev?
[04:11] <de-facto_> normally you can press a key to get into your bios/uefi boot menu for choice from where to boot
[04:11] <somsip> janesmith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
[04:12] <janesmith> somsip: sorry, I should have googled that myself. In fact, that's what I was doing. I guess my question is this. Why are all these things appearing as drives, when they seem to be some kind of utilities / services?
[04:12] <janesmith> somsip: actually
[04:13] <janesmith> who cares. Better question.
[04:13] <janesmith> IIRC, /dev/sdax are actual drives.
[04:13] <imnichol> I just had a bunch of keys appear in my seahorse list.
[04:13] <imnichol> Anyone know what might cause that?
[04:14] <janesmith> /dev/sda1 has a root directory /EFI and then EFI/ubuntu. Other that what's in ubuntu it seems empty. So that sounds like a failed installation or something, right?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> janesmith: If it is your drives you want to identify try terminal commands ' sudo fdisk -lu ; sudo parted -l ' .
[04:14] <somsip> janesmith: everything in linux looks like a file
[04:15] <somsip> janesmith: no idea about the /EFI question myself
[04:19] <janesmith> somsip: ok thanks
[04:20] <de-facto> janesmith, if you like GUI's and have Xorg running you might want to look at gparted, but be carefull its very powerfull
[04:20] <janesmith> Bashing-om: thanks, I incorrectly thought that df would also show me unmounted drives. Found it now, thanks to your suggestion.
[04:21] <samsruti> hey guyz i having an error
[04:21] <samsruti> when i ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:21] <nicomachus> what's the error?
[04:21] <somsip> samsruti: on one line please...
[04:22] <Bashing-om> janesmith: :) My bit to try and help .
[04:23] <samsruti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14135068/
[04:23] <nicomachus> samsruti: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:24] <nicomachus> then try to upgrade again
[04:25] <samsruti> not working :(
[04:25] <nicomachus> samsruti: you did "sudo dpkg --configure -a"? what happened then?
[04:25] <samsruti> nothing happened
[04:25] <somsip> samsruti: sudo apt-get clean, then update and install
[04:25] <nicomachus> ^
[04:26] <samsruti> i tried that also :(
[04:27] <de-facto> try --reconfigure maybe?
[04:28] <samsruti> i got this at last when i updated the packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14135092/
[04:28] <nicomachus> ah...
[04:28] <nicomachus> bad mirror, perhaps.
[04:29] <de-facto> samsruti, the repo does not exist for your version anymore
[04:29] <nicomachus> de-facto: it's wily, it exists.
[04:29] <de-facto> 404 means its not found
[04:29] <samsruti> so what should i do to fix this ?
[04:29] <nicomachus> samsruti: what server is your sources list set to?
[04:30] <samsruti> idk :P
[04:30] <de-facto> nicomachus, nope http://ppa.launchpad.net/cairo-dock-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[04:31] <samsruti> i just installed gnome yesterday and today i am getting this :P
[04:31] <samsruti> as i played a lot with those i dont know :P
[04:31] <samsruti> help me guys
[04:31] <nicomachus> samsruti: go to System Settings --> Software & Updates
[04:32] <de-facto> you could search for another source of that software and use ppa-purge to get rid of the outdated version
[04:32] <nicomachus> there is an option there for "download from". what's it set to?
[04:33] <nicomachus> but also you can delete that cairo-dock ppa, because it's part of the universe packages now.
[04:33] <samsruti> let me check
[04:35] <nicomachus> de-facto: I'm sorry, you were right.
[04:35] <nicomachus> neither of those exists.
[04:36] <samsruti> woow :P
[04:36] <samsruti> Software & Updates is not opening :P
[04:36] <nicomachus> it takes a second sometimes.
[04:36] <min> hello guys!
[04:36] <nicomachus> hi min
[04:37] <min> nicomachus: hi how are you?
[04:37] <nicomachus> fine min, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:37] <Bashing-om> samsruti: That PPA has no support for wily . See http://ppa.launchpad.net/cairo-dock-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ .
[04:37] <min> nicomachus: not at the moment, you did help me with my mouse problem a few days ago.. thanks!
[04:37] <nicomachus> yea, cairo-dock was brought into the universe repos for 15.10
[04:38] <nicomachus> min: good. this channel is strictly for support, general chat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <OpenSorce> So should I install the Gnome software center now or just wait til April?
[04:38] <min> nicomachus: ah ok, thanks again
[04:38] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: up to you.
[04:39]  * samsruti needs to restart his computer :P
[04:39] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, I don't suppose there are any potential conflicts with running it on 14.04?
[04:39] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: not that I know of...
[04:40] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, kk thanks :-)
[04:44] <OpenSorce> Now if I can just find the package name for it... :-P
[04:46] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: searching...
[04:46] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, me too... race ya!
[04:47] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: It *may* not be possible...
[04:48] <OpenSorce> Eww... is Gnome really running it's own irc server now?
[04:48] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, I'll jump over there and see what they know. I'll report back shortly.
[04:48] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: ding ding: https://askubuntu.com/questions/614777/how-to-install-gnome-software-center-in-ubuntu-gnome-15-04
[04:48] <nicomachus> winner winner chicken dinner
[04:48] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, you win!
[04:49]  * OpenSorce hands nicomachus a chicken dinner :-P
[04:53] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, they are asleep over there anyway :-P
[04:59] <bb> hello everyone
[05:14] <django_> anyone know how to use screen
[05:14] <cbp> i use tmux
[05:17] <rww> django_: i'm sure plenty of people do. you may want to ask your actual question :)
[05:17] <django_> if i have multipe screens how do i access with screen -r
[05:17] <django_> also how do i remove a screen
[05:18] <rww> if you do screen -r when you have multiple, it'll list them with their IDs. you'd then do screen -r IDhere
[05:18] <nicktick> how to suspend to disk in ubuntu ?
[05:18] <absurdist> i got some cunty kernel messages i can't get rid of them
[05:19] <rww> django_: and as for removing a screen, Ctrl-a \ when it's running will do that, and I expect there's a command-line option for it but I can't remember it
[05:19] <django_> rww, if i restart computer how can i make sure the screen gets saved
[05:20] <rww> you don't
[05:20] <rww> they don't persist through reboots
[05:20] <rww> (like any other program)
[05:20] <django_> oh
[05:21] <django_> that was my goal lol
[05:23] <django_> rww, im running a vps
[05:23] <de-facto> but be carefull screen has got some nasty bugs, e.g. overscrolling manpages and such
[05:24] <vmusr> how to boot into expert mode?!
[05:24] <JohnMackTruck> y
[05:24] <JohnMackTruck> sup
[05:28] <absurdist> i need donatello
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | absurdist
[05:29] <ignis-fatuus> Question for you folks...I'm sick of my iphone and itunes not being supported in a linux environment. I  am looking into getting a new smart phone and was wondering which ones play nice with Ubuntu and/or other distros
[05:29] <absurdist> how to disable LAN bond messages in syslog, that stuff floods my kernel log
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: ubuntu touch phone, see #ubuntu-touch
[05:35] <ignis-fatuus> lotuspsychje: I'l have to look into it. I thought it was still only being tested in Europe for whatever reason
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: no, other countrys can benefit ubuntu phones aswell
[05:37] <wjd> hey guys can you please help
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | wjd
[05:37] <Bashing-om> wjd: Won't know 'til you state the issue .
[05:38] <ignis-fatuus> lotuspsychje: Have you had any experinces whith any of the Andriod phones...i.e. Samsung (whatever)?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: offtopic here mate
[05:39] <Bray90820_> So what exactly will replace the ubuntu software center?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !alis | ignis-fatuus to search a channel
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820_: xenial will have gnome software
[05:39] <Bray90820_> So it's still an app store?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820_: yes sir, replacement of software center
[05:40] <Bray90820_> Well ok then
[05:40] <Bray90820_> My question has been answered
[05:40] <ignis-fatuus> lotuspsychje: How is it off topic when I am asking about a device (or divices) that are generally compatable with Ubuntu?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820_: #ubuntu+1 to follow xenials progress
[05:41] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: phone devices support goto #ubuntu-touch mate
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: asking about android is not for main ubuntu support
[05:41] <wjd> i m using ubuntu 14.0.3, recently installed vlc, everything worked fine untill apt-get upgrade some time ago. i cant resize videos now when playing in any media player and screen blinks fast in light blue color around the video, video blinks too, when i minimize the video player, video still stays on the screen, continues to play and blinks
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: you can check the !devices supported in #ubuntu-touch
[05:42] <ignis-fatuus> lotuspsychje: I'n not interested in running Ubuntu on my phone
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: what then?
[05:44] <ignis-fatuus> lotuspsychje: I have found that some phones are not accessible via Ubuntu--i.e. iphones...can't really do much with them as itunes is needed. I'm just wondering if there are any phome manufactureers that do not place such restrictions on what OS the phone is being teathered to
[05:44] <de-facto> wjd try to launch vlc from a terminal and look at its output messages to get more information maybe?
[05:45] <de-facto> also might start another terminal and see if some messages appear in dmesg when you play your video
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> ignis-fatuus: there are tools to connect iphones allright via ubuntu
[05:45] <wjd> de-facto: maybe there is a way to change to other media codecs or something, i did that already, no errors
[05:46] <wjd> VLC media player 2.2.1 Terry Pratchett (Weatherwax) (revision 2.2.1~trusty1)
[05:46] <wjd> [00000000019fb118] core libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !iphone | ignis-fatuus
[05:46] <wjd> vlc output seems fine
[05:46] <de-facto> i thought you have video issues?
[05:47] <de-facto> you can adjust verbosity like vlc -v or vlc -vv or even vlc -vvv
[05:52] <de-facto> though it might be gfx driver related having it on all videos "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and "dmesg" might reveal some info
[05:53] <xmiao> de-facto: i dont know about that, is that video related or codecs related? using any other media player gives the same thing: video is blinking, cant resize video, video size is small, when minimized, video stays on screen and continues to play and blink, thou media player frame is gone
[05:54] <de-facto> id guess its video driver related
[05:55] <xmiao> dmesg gives no hints on whats happening to video, i am currently playing it right now
[05:55] <xmiao> de-facto: ok, how do i change my video driver
[05:56] <xmiao> is there a command for that in terminal
[05:56] <de-facto> which video card do you use?
[05:57] <xmiao> i dont really know, my intel cpu has an internal one
[05:57] <xmiao> it worked fine when i fresh installed ubuntu
[05:58] <de-facto> hmm and you really have it in all video players? you can choose the output method in vlc settings btw
[05:59] <de-facto> xvideo or so should work
[06:00] <de-facto> the intel gpu's drivers come with the kernels afaik, should be fine
[06:01] <de-facto> but you might try to boot into older kernels from boot menu to rule that out
[06:02] <xmiao> de-facto: tried that, no improvements
[06:02] <xmiao> changed to multiple other output methods
[06:03] <xmiao> yes, it should, it worked fine before
[06:03] <de-facto> you need to try to gather more information, did you look at Xorg.0.log?
[06:03] <xmiao> de-facto: where can i find it?
[06:03] <de-facto> "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[06:05] <Jan\> hey whats the cmd to remove direcoty ?
[06:05] <de-facto> "rm -rf /path/to/dir" but be carefull it wont ask it just removes it
[06:07] <de-facto> especially be carefull when using variables in scripts for path
[06:08] <de-facto> ppl have nuked root dir when having empty variables in a bug
[06:09] <xmiao> de-facto: thanks alot, managed to fix it
[06:14] <moto> my wifi not working help
[06:30] <mt_allawati> Hello
[06:31] <mt_allawati> i have issue with ubuntu performance when i use virtual machine
[06:31] <mt_allawati> my pc is i7-2700k -12Gb ram
[06:31] <mt_allawati> 64bit
[06:31] <mt_allawati> i to all
[06:32] <mt_allawati> *
[06:32] <mt_allawati> any help please
[06:32] <mt_allawati> ??
[06:33] <rww> is Ubuntu the VM guest or host?
[06:34] <mt_allawati> host
[06:34] <mt_allawati> @rww pc working on ubuntu
[06:34] <alwan> how much ram you allocated to ubuntu? <mt_allawati>
[06:34] <mt_allawati> 12 gb
[06:34] <mt_allawati> My OS is ubuntu
[06:35] <alwan> and what's the guest OS you run?
[06:35] <mt_allawati> working on installed windows 7 on vmware
[06:35] <alwan> so, the host is ubuntu, and the guest os is windows 7?
[06:35] <mt_allawati> yes
[06:35] <rww> I'd recommend #vmware channel, personally.
[06:36] <alwan> are you using default ubuntu unity desktop?
[06:36] <mt_allawati> the issue is performance of Ubuntu coming slow
[06:36] <mt_allawati> hang
[06:37] <mt_allawati> its using only 25% maximum of processors
[06:37] <mt_allawati> and ram is 12GB
[06:37] <mt_allawati> and still hanging or slow response
[06:37] <mt_allawati> also
[06:37] <alwan> I recommend u use another desktop environment
[06:37] <mt_allawati> if not using VM
[06:38] <mt_allawati> like what
[06:38] <alwan> let's say : LXDE, MATE, or XFCE
[06:38] <alwan> I'd choose LXDE
[06:38] <alwan> please install lubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <mt_allawati> im using gnome classic
[06:38] <alwan> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <alwan> yes.. current gnome components are heavier
[06:39] <mt_allawati> okay
[06:39] <mt_allawati> so i have to change it
[06:39] <alwan> LXDE is far more light than gnome
[06:39] <mt_allawati> good
[06:39] <alwan> especially its WM openbox
[06:39]  * jhaji_ 
[06:40] <mt_allawati> no its VMware
[06:40] <mt_allawati> :)
[06:42]  * jhaji_ 
[06:50] <absurdist> what you people think about the xanmod kernel?
[06:50] <absurdist> bfs scheduler bfq io scheduler, and some different compiling optimizations
[06:50] <somsip> absurdist: I think it's probably unsupported here, and polling for opiion is discouraged
[06:50] <absurdist> ok i poll for barbie dolls next time
[06:59] <c404> how to edit the iso to make it fit a cd?
[06:59] <somsip> c404: the ubuntu install CD? It's DVD-sized now
[07:00] <somsip> !remaster | c404 (if you really want to try)
[07:47] <lrdc> hi! i have problem reading my gpt hard drive, this is what gdisk said http://pastebin.com/raw/R2ULaWcC
[07:48] <lrdc> can someone assist me how to fix the warning?
[07:49] <xcelq> lrdc: there a blog on it somewhere
[07:49] <xcelq> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2131215
[07:52] <lrdc> xcelq: that's not related to my problem i guess
[08:01] <Shady> how to get .mov files played on vlc?
[08:03] <xcelq> i don't use vlc
[08:03] <xcelq> i use mpv for this reason
[08:04] <BalTun> how to execute calculator from command line?
[08:04] <Skyrider> Why did Shady leave ...
[08:04] <xcelq> you mean like a curses calcutlor or
[08:04] <Skyrider> Google search shows an answer -_-
[08:04] <xcelq> typing it from?
[08:07] <blugingress> I am using ubuntu 15.04, How can I install rar or unrar package. ?
[08:08] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to revert the last apt-get. For some reason now I get white screen on login and can't login unless I connect the second monitor.
[08:08] <neredsenvy> And my mouse cursor is gone
[08:09] <neredsenvy> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:09] <neredsenvy> for codecs
[08:14] <detly> can anyone recommend a tool for checking the integrity of commercial (movie) DVDs?
[08:14] <detly> I've tried cdck and it's absolutely useless
[08:20] <bazhang> !info unp | blugingress try this
[08:21] <auronandace> detly: surely the one who made the dvd image would need to supply you with a checksum that you can compare against
[08:38] <fs-bigfondue> Has anyone else had an issue with Trusty with regards to the graphical prompt that gnupg uses?  When I set a password, it only presents me with one prompt, so I can't be sure if I entered the password that I intended when using symetric encryption, or when generating a new key
[08:39] <fs-bigfondue> if so, does anyone have a workaround?  I don't mind using the text prompt, as I usually encrypt from the terminal anyway
[08:40] <chandan> Hello all, i am trying to build a patched ubuntu kernel. I also have to enable a config option (via "make menuconfig"). I tried "fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs" as mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel. However "editconfigs" command fails with the msg ... "*** ERROR: 12 config-check failures detected"
[08:41] <chandan> any suggestions on how to overcome the above?
[08:45] <neredsenvy> Under try ubuntu how do I install things for OS installed on local drive ?
[08:46] <neredsenvy> anyone ?
[08:46] <xcelq> i dunno man
[08:46] <xcelq> i just use usb or optical disk
[08:47] <neredsenvy> what ?
[08:47] <xcelq> you can try unetbootin
[08:47] <xcelq> i dunno if that work for hard drive
[08:47] <neredsenvy> what are you even talking about
[08:48] <neredsenvy> I'm booted into Ubuntu Try I need to install something for the Ubuntu installed on local HDD
[08:48] <xcelq> do you have a linux on the hdd?
[08:48] <xcelq> or bsd
[08:48] <neredsenvy> I have same ubundu on hdd that I have on usb stick
[08:48] <xcelq> just ssh in i guess
[08:48] <neredsenvy> ... ssh into a offline system
[08:49] <xcelq> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[08:49] <xcelq> i think i found your issue
[08:51] <neredsenvy> no you have not
[08:51] <xcelq> yes i have
[08:51] <xcelq> ctrl + f offline
[08:59] <uruk> hello
[08:59] <xcelq> hey uruk
[09:01] <uruk> how to save the position of windows in desktop of ubuntu, i need to save diferent configuration of desktops this is posible in ubuntu?
[09:02] <xcelq> can you use github or git?
[09:02] <xcelq> oh
[09:02] <xcelq> i don't know if that possible
[09:02] <xcelq> you mean like applications right?
[09:02] <uruk> is how to save the session
[09:03] <Morrwin> Would people be interested in a 4k on Ubuntu Guide? I'm kinda a newbie trying to setup my dual monitor setup for web dev/design. Main dekstop is 4k secondary is 1200p.
[09:03] <uruk> but in file this is possible?
[09:03] <xcelq> Morrwin: it easy
[09:03] <xcelq> Morrwin: just do it with xrandr
[09:03] <Morrwin> Does it do apps as well?
[09:03] <xcelq> yeah if you set it up right
[09:03] <Morrwin> Like I'm having issues with scaling Photoshop CS6 on Wine for 4k
[09:03] <Morrwin> found some guide to add a .manifest so it scales the app
[09:04] <xcelq> xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1
[09:04] <xcelq> replace vga with 4k
[09:04] <xcelq> lvds with main mointor
[09:04] <Morrwin> hm
[09:04] <Morrwin> does it work on ubuntu unity?
[09:04] <xcelq> yes
[09:04] <Morrwin> It's just that line or is it a guide to set it up?
[09:05] <Morrwin> I've set up display scale in unity to 1.5x so far and it's good
[09:05] <xcelq> i can show you how i do mine
[09:05] <xcelq> on my laptop is that okay?
[09:05] <xcelq> xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto --right-of eDP
[09:05] <xcelq> this is my config for it
[09:06] <xcelq> it'll be something similar
[09:06] <Morrwin> hm
[09:06] <Morrwin> I've got main display 4k on display port, second monitor 1200p on dvi
[09:06] <xcelq> so you would do
[09:07] <xcelq> 4k in replace of HDMI-o then dvi on left or right depending on setup
[09:07] <Morrwin> dvi is on the right
[09:07] <xcelq> so yeah
[09:07] <uruk> is it possible save the session ubuntu unity in file and then load it?
[09:08] <xcelq> yeah tmux
[09:08] <Morrwin> xcelq, so what should the xrandr command look like?
[09:08] <Morrwin> 4k left display port, 1200p right dvi
[09:08] <xcelq> Morrwin: what are you using for 4k? like hdmi or what ever
[09:08] <Morrwin> display port
[09:09] <Morrwin> "DisplayPort-0 connected primary 3840x2160+0+0" shows in xrandr
[09:09] <xcelq> yeah so it should be
[09:09] <detly> auronandace: it's just a shop-bought dvd, that's not something they usually supply
[09:10] <xcelq> xrandr --output DisplayPort-o --auto left of DVI-0
[09:10] <xcelq> i think?
[09:10] <xcelq> xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --auto left of DVI-0
[09:10] <detly> I have one disc in a set that plays with corrupted video, and I'm trying to figure out if the disc is damaged or it's a software thing (it works on a dvd player, but not via any playback software on this machine)
[09:12] <c272> is there a way to have all usb's unmounted when my system locks?
[09:12] <Morrwin> but I don't get it what does xrandr do?
[09:12] <Morrwin> isn't the same as unity displays?
[09:12] <xcelq> yeah either works
[09:13] <Morrwin> I mean I've set the 4k resolution and scaling in unity but it doesn't scale some apps
[09:13] <mcphail> detly: try extracting the video with MakeMKV. It is the only thing i have found which can read video on all (functioning) commercial DVDs. Unfortunately, it isn't open source
[09:13] <xcelq> oh um
[09:13] <Morrwin> that's the issue I'm having
[09:13] <xcelq> 4k isn't perfect yet
[09:13] <xcelq> it kind of
[09:13] <xcelq> niche i guess?
[09:13] <Morrwin> I somehow need to hack the Photoshop CS6 in Wine to scale the UI
[09:13] <Morrwin> :)
[09:13] <xcelq> see if you used gimp im sure it would work better :P
[09:14] <Morrwin> Yeah I know just that I'm used to Phtoshop :(
[09:14] <mcphail> detly: there isn't a DVD player soltion on Linux which will play all DVDs, as far as I am aware
[09:14] <xcelq> mcphail: you could probably rip it to the computer
[09:14] <Morrwin> Btw while we are on the subject, should I use Wine to emulate Adobe software or use a WM?
[09:14] <mcphail> xcelq: that's what I suggested to detly.
[09:15] <detly> mcphail: yeah, it's just odd because it's this one dvd in a set (hence why I suspect it's faulty)
[09:15] <xcelq> Morrwin: i would use wm personally
[09:15] <detly> I tried ripping an episode to see if that would work, but it's the same result: corrupted video from this one disc
[09:15] <Morrwin> xcelq, I got lots of ram like 24GB and can add a seperate r9 280x card
[09:15] <mcphail> detly: did you try MakeMKV?
[09:15] <xcelq> Morrwin: yeah i'd do qemu it can emaulate hardware
[09:16] <Morrwin> Is it different than VirtualBox?
[09:16] <xcelq> yes
[09:16] <xcelq> it has kvm
[09:16] <xcelq> unless your machine is older
[09:16] <mcphail> detly: honestly, it is the only thing out there which works with a subset of discs. Even ddrescue can't handle all the intentional corruption on commercial discs
[09:16] <detly> mcphail: I haven't, but I'll give it a shot
[09:17] <detly> cheers
[09:17] <Morrwin> xcelq, kvm as in virtualize? Cpu can handle virtualization is an i7 2600k
[09:17] <xcelq> im sure it could work Morrwin kvm means =  hardware virtualzation
[09:17] <mcphail> detly: usual caveats apply with non-open-source software. I recommend you run it in a disposable install, if you're paranoid like me. But the makers have a good reputation
[09:17] <xcelq> it what you use if you have a obsecure os you can't use on real hardware
[09:18] <xcelq> in your case you want to run windows without actually running it
[09:18] <xcelq> so it works
[09:19] <Morrwin> But can't I use VirtualBox and just set up the second gpu for Windows?
[09:19] <xcelq> if you have the money to kill sure
[09:19] <Morrwin> In case they need gpu acceleration
[09:19] <Morrwin> I've got two r9 280x, but haven't used crossfire for gaming in a long time because there is barely any good support for it
[09:20] <retrojeff> I notice a strange bug but I am not sure its a bug so in Files (nautilus) you can mount remote sftp connection which works fine but when I right click a file and choose open with gedit its blank and says "sftp" on the top
[09:20] <retrojeff> I also tried to open with other programs with the same results
[09:21] <retrojeff> mousepad, sublime_text etc
[09:29] <retrojeff> just did a rm -rf ~/.config/mimeapps.list that fixed glitches in the open with list
[09:29] <retrojeff> but not solved my issue
[09:35] <retrojeff> is there source code avail for nautilus?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> retrojeff: what are you trying to do exactly?
[09:37] <retrojeff> I'd tell you but it would require you sign a non disclosure agreement
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> retrojeff: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13984/where-can-i-find-the-source-of-nautilus
[09:37] <retrojeff> I think my mime list got distroyed somehow
[09:37] <retrojeff> $ strace -F -e open nautilus 2>&1 | grep "mime"
[09:38] <retrojeff> I tried strace to see what mime files nautilus uses
[09:40] <retrojeff> damn its not like github where you can search the repo :-(
[09:40] <retrojeff> I would need to download this and probley grep it
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> retrojeff: did you read that link?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> retrojeff: apt-get source nautilus
[09:43] <retrojeff> ok does that install it to /usr/src/XXXXX ?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> retrojeff: no it downloads it to your /home
[09:44] <retrojeff> its hard to say that nautilus is at fault here because I get the same issue with thunar
[09:45] <retrojeff> so maybe its much deeper problem
[09:45] <retrojeff> and besides I like thunar more now nautilus looks like crap now
[09:48] <c272> retrojeff: have you tried pcmanfm?
[09:48] <retrojeff> its been a while but yes I have in the past
[09:48] <retrojeff> I will load it up now and try
[09:50] <retrojeff> hrmmmmmmm pcmanfm has a nice open with dialog box
[09:51] <retrojeff> you can put custom command
[09:52] <retrojeff> hrmmmmmm damn
[09:52] <retrojeff> same issue when I tried custom command /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %u
[09:57] <Guest76796> i need cvc card 11.99 § for connect pal
[09:57] <varaindemian> E: Problem renaming the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.AxYyZw to /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - rename (2: No such file or directory)
[09:58] <varaindemian> E: Problem renaming the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.ox5x4T to /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - rename (2: No such file or directory)
[09:58] <varaindemian> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> Guest76796: not the right channel
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> varaindemian: what are you trying to do?
[10:00] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:01] <IronicBadger> i'm trying to upgrade fuse to 2.9.4 on 14.04. i've compiled from source and installed using make but dpkg still thinks i have 2.9.2 installed. i'm so confused!
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> varaindemian: have you added ppa's of any kind?
[10:02] <alwan> yes of course
[10:02] <alwan> dpkg read from apps that installed from deb
[10:02] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: I don't remember. Haven't used this pc for a while
[10:02] <retrojeff> varaindemian: apt-get clean; apt-get autoclean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[10:02] <IronicBadger> alwan: yeah. so i made a deb
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> IronicBadger: its not reccomended to install other package versions then ubuntu version
[10:02] <varaindemian> retrojeff: I'll try this
[10:03] <IronicBadger> lotuspsychje: i came on here yday and was told to compile it!
 you must use checkinstall
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !info fuse | IronicBadger
[10:03] <retrojeff> varaindemian: if you are not root you might need to add in sudo
[10:04] <varaindemian> retrojeff: ye, noticed that, thx
[10:04] <IronicBadger> ubottu: i'm not running wily. only trsuty.
[10:04] <varaindemian> retrojeff: everything is fine now
[10:04] <retrojeff> varaindemian: your welcome
[10:04] <IronicBadger> alwan: what is checkinstall (goes to google)
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !info fuse trusty | IronicBadger
[10:04] <varaindemian> retrojeff: Where can I get more info about my issue?
[10:04] <retrojeff> varaindemian: it might have been a failed download stuck somewhere
[10:04] <IronicBadger> lotuspsychje: i need 2.9.4 on trusty
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !latest | IronicBadger not reccomended
[10:05] <IronicBadger> i already know what you've just told me :)
[10:05] <alwan> checkinstall is tool to make an installer file specific into your distro from source
[10:06] <alwan> instead using make install from source after .configure
[10:06] <alwan> we can install by using our distro package management
[10:06] <alwan> it is safer
[10:06] <alwan> from example what have been occured to you
[10:07] <IronicBadger> ok i'm running checkinstall now
[10:08] <IronicBadger> alwan: http://pastebin.com/dnu12aXV
[10:10] <alwan> you must configure your deb /home/alex/git/dotfiles/epsilon/fuse/output/libfuse-fuse_2_9_4/libfuse_2.9.4-1_amd64.deb
[10:10] <alwan> in control file
[10:11] <alwan> add a line :
[10:11] <alwan> Replaces : fuse
[10:12] <IronicBadger> alwan: this is amazingly helpful... :)
[10:13] <IronicBadger> alwan: i can see those options when i run checkinstall, but which is the controlfile?
[10:16] <alwan> Just finish the process
[10:16] <alwan> then extract the deb
[10:16] <alwan> you will get a control file
[10:16] <alwan> inside DEBIAN directory
[10:17] <alwan> if you get into worse condition, just give up and upgrade to 15.10 instead.. it's much easier :D
[10:17] <hrob12> hi
[10:18] <hrob12> anyone know if I can have two different applications output audio to separate audio devices?  Hoping I don't need to hack anything in pulse audio
[10:21] <IronicBadger> alwan: http://pastebin.com/MJv5zSza
[10:21] <kostkon> hrob12, install pavucontrol
[10:21] <BlackFate> kostkon, nice! that will definitely do the trick
[10:23] <hrob12> kostkon thanks !
[10:24] <hrob12> kostkon:  pulse audio is the top layer audio control default in ubuntu right?  sorry I'm not familiar -- it used to be simpler somehow with alsa
[10:25] <alwan> could you give me the link for your file libfuse_2.9.4-1_amd64.deb <IronicBadger> ?
[10:25] <IronicBadger> alwan: when i extract the file i dont get a DEBIAN folder or file or whatever inside it
[10:25] <alwan> I want to look into your deb
[10:26] <alwan> please upload your libfuse_2.9.4-1_amd64.deb into dropbox or somewhere i could download
[10:27] <BlackFate> hrob12, pulseaudio is a layer above alsa. It accepts streams from different applications and forwards them to the audio driver (alsa). Yes, it's the default for ubuntu
[10:27] <IronicBadger> alwan: https://www.dropbox.com/s/95dqtlwmz36wud7/libfuse_2.9.4-1_amd64.deb?dl=0
[10:29] <alwan> your https://www.dropbox.com/s/95dqtlwmz36wud7/libfuse_2.9.4-1_amd64.deb?dl=0 is ok
[10:29] <alwan> it should be ok to install into your system
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett
[10:30] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings!
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: can i pm for a sec?
[10:30] <cfhowlett> sure
[10:31] <alwan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nipjxns9y0h2gx7/1.png?dl=0
[10:31] <alwan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nipjxns9y0h2gx7/1.png?dl=0
[10:31] <alwan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vyk1zghpxgmwf5d/2.png?dl=0
[10:31] <IronicBadger> hmm
[10:31] <xcelq> alwan: ?
[10:32] <IronicBadger> i'm clearly an idiot
[10:32] <IronicBadger> alwan: i ran dpkg -x
[10:32] <alwan> The easier way
[10:32] <alwan> you follow this instruction https://wiki.debian.org/apt-src
[10:32] <alwan> you change your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <alwan> and change the deb-src from trusty into wily
[10:33] <SPF> hi, in order to make virtualbox work I have to do sudo chmod 666 /dev/sda*. This is only recently probably due updates?
[10:33] <IronicBadger> that does feel like cheating now :p
[10:33] <user> df
[10:33] <user> testing
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !test | user
[10:34] <Guest79458> ah
[10:34] <xcelq> does anybody know if digital ocean has latest ubuntu?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> xcelq, ask DI?
[10:34] <Guest79458> I'M
[10:34] <Guest79458> CHATING WITH MY RASPBERRY PI
[10:34] <Guest79458> what the lag..
[10:36] <xcelq> raspberry pi 1 or 2?
[10:38] <IronicBadger> alwan: apt-src is a very cool tool. thanks!
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> alwan: you sure this wont give dependecie issues mixing versions like that?
[10:39] <IronicBadger> lotuspsychje: nope
[10:39] <IronicBadger> but i'm learning
[10:39] <IronicBadger> so we'll see shortly
[10:39] <alwan> no
[10:40] <IronicBadger> alwan: libfuse2:
[10:40] <IronicBadger>   Installed: 2.9.4-1ubuntu1
[10:40] <IronicBadger> w00t!
[10:40] <Arr0way> does unattended-upgrades only install security updates ?
[10:40] <Arr0way> I need a way of only installing security updates.
[10:40] <alwan> it is safe for newer version <lotuspsychje>
[10:40] <xcelq> IronicBadger: congrats
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> !latest | alwan
[10:41] <IronicBadger> apt-src is daaaaaaaaaaamn cool
[10:41] <xcelq> apt-src life
[10:41] <w0jtas1> anyone could tell me why after installing tasksel i have missing filter-tasks file ?
[10:41] <w0jtas1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/tasksel/filelist
[10:41] <w0jtas1> this page file should be there
[10:42] <alwan> congrats buddy <IronicBadger> :D
 yes
[10:42] <alwan> for daily use system, such hack is not safe
[10:42] <xcelq> ubottu: if your software is in ppa then you can just update it that way
[10:43] <alwan> instead, we have to upgrade our entire system
[10:43] <alwan> yes <lotuspsychje> it could produce system error
[10:44] <alwan> very not recommended for daily user, operational system
[10:44] <IronicBadger> for a home server
[10:44] <IronicBadger> which i just tinker around with
[10:44] <IronicBadger> it's fine
[10:45] <xcelq> IronicBadger: i plan on using it for my nas
[10:50] <IronicBadger> xcelq: details
[10:51] <xcelq> IronicBadger: well i download a lot of videos and pictures so i plan on using it for that and streaming media when im at the cottage since east coast internet is terrible
[10:51] <xcelq> other then that
[10:51] <xcelq> it just a regular nas
[10:51] <xcelq> since i use a laptop for my daily driver
[10:51] <IronicBadger> xcelq: you should join us at #linuxserver.io - we like that sort of topic
[10:52] <xcelq> IronicBadger: can i pm you my web server or website?
[10:52] <IronicBadger> sure
[11:05] <michel__> bonjurs
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> !fr | michel__
[11:06] <michel__> ;erci
[11:07] <vooze> Hi, i'm currently patching the ubuntu kernel and all is well. But how do I give it a different version number, so it wont update, and I can see which kernel is which? According to wiki, I change to change /debian-master/changelog and I have put: linux (4.2.0-22.27+vooze) wily; urgency=low but I dont see a difference after compile.
[11:08] <vooze> I need to change *
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | vooze
[11:09] <vooze> lotuspsychje: thats not really useful, since I need to patch the kernel and its not in the mainline builds.
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | vooze
[11:11] <vooze> lotuspsychje: I did.. I can google my self. problem is when I do what it tells me "edit debian.master/changelog" nothing happens..
[11:31] <c272> C
[11:31] <c272> oops
[11:45] <SPF> hi, in order to make virtualbox work I have to do sudo chmod 666 /dev/sda*. This is only recently probably due updates ?
[11:45] <unitylaunc> hi world i d like to pin a .desktop file on the left launch bar in unity but in command line. i don't find how to proceed . thanks
[11:46] <wodim> hello, are there minimal cd images for xenial?
[11:46] <wodim> oh found out
[11:47] <ne2k> I have a VM running Ubuntu 14.04.3 server in proxmox (qemu). it has suddenly stopped booting, complaining "VFS: Cannot open root device "UUID=...." or unknown-block(0,0): error -6". if I change root to root=/dev/vda1 at grub command line, it boots fine; I've then checked that the UUID is correct (it is), and tried grub-install /dev/vda and update-grub, which both run successfully, but no change to boot process, still fails
[11:57] <Sc0tty-> I have installed vera++ package on 12.04 using the package manager, but I am unable to locate the package, does anyone know what may cause this?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> ne2k  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> !find vera
[11:59] <ne2k> found this answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/436384/how-to-fix-boot-issue-vfs-cannot-open-root-device-mapper-x-or-unknown-block
[11:59] <Sc0tty-> when I apt-get install dict-vera then try "find vera" it returns "No such file or directory"
[12:00] <Sc0tty-> same thing with vera++
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Sc0tty-  try 'locate vera'
[12:00] <jhacked> hello, is there an admin here?
[12:01] <jhacked> I'd like to delete my forum account but actually I don't know how to do this
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> jhacked  from which forum?
[12:01] <jhacked> ubuntuforums.org
[12:01] <Sc0tty-> MonkeyDust: locate: command not found
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> Sc0tty-  sure it's ubuntu? what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[12:02] <DJones> jhacked: The admins here are different from the ubuntu forums people, I think their main channel is #ubuntuforums probab;y best asking there
[12:03] <jhacked> thank you very much, I'll write there so :)
[12:03] <jhacked> Goodbye and long life to the free software! :D
[12:03] <Sc0tty-> yes it's ubuntu 12.04 in a docker container, MonkeyDust
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> Sc0tty-  try   which locate   first
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:05] <xcelq> hey BluesKaj
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: can you join discuss, youve got an invite
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> Sc0tty-  and   whereis vera
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hi xcelq
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[12:06] <Sc0tty-> MonkeyDust: okay I will try that, thanks
[12:10] <Sc0tty-> MonkeyDust: it tells me that it it not installed, but when I run apt-get install vera++ it tells me that it is already installed, I am confused
[12:14] <max17> ok  era a tuttu
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !it | max17
[12:15] <max17> sera a tutti
[12:17] <max17> o un problema con update manager chi na sa qualcosa ?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> hij dreigde !pt
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[12:42] <ntz_> hello
[12:42] <ntz_> anyone has a clue what might cause this death cry: http://www.starenka.net/ntz/20151222_132837.jpg ?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ntz  better start from the beginning... when, where does that happen? ubuntu version?
[12:48] <ntz> MonkeyDust: 14.04.3
[12:48] <ntz> with LTSenablestack kernel
[12:48] <ntz> but it was freezing before as well, that's why I upped a kernel
[12:48] <ntz> but before that it was freezing due to the i915, now seems like because of cpu
[12:49] <ioria> ntz uname -r
[12:49] <ntz> 3.19.0-41-generic
[12:50] <ntz> ^^ I've now rebooted to lower kernel
[12:50] <ntz> because I have to move some data around
[12:51] <ioria> ntz  can you paste ls /boot
[12:51] <ioria> ?
[12:52] <l0p3n> How well does Ubuntu run on Macbook Air? Ayone here with experience on this?
[12:52] <ntz> ioria: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/11378419
[12:54] <ntz> ioria: don't care for bad characters .... i had to do LANG=en_US.utf8
[12:54] <ntz> but I didn't
[12:54] <cfhowlett> definitely a lot more stuff than I have
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> !mac | l0p3n
[12:54] <Plastyne> Olá?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !es | plasticb1y
[12:54] <cfhowlett> Plastyne,
[12:54] <Plastyne> Hi
[12:55] <Plastyne> Alguém brasileiro ?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !br | Plastyne
[12:55] <Plastyne> com interesse em BotNet IRC com PMA
[12:55] <ioria> ntz  you have a mix of kernels ....
[12:55] <Plastyne> thanks :3
[12:56] <Plastyne> !br
[12:56] <ioria> ntz  how comes ?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> ntz  in a terminal:   sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:58] <Rhialto> Hi, there
[12:59] <Rhialto> I have a question about proxy-ARP on Linux which doesn't work on my Ubuntu box. I have written it up nicely on stackexchange so I won't paste it here, just the link: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/250800/linux-does-not-proxy-arp-for-me-despite-the-documentation-suggesting-that-it-do
[12:59] <Rhialto> it may be Ubuntu-specific but I'm not sure at this point.
[13:00] <CravateRouge> Hello, I've installed freshplayerplugin with a ppa but I had to remove the ppa because it will update other packages, so how could I update automatically freshplayerplugin?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Rhialto: sounds like something for the ##networking guys?
[13:01] <Rhialto> lotuspsychje: I could ask there too, yes
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> CravateRouge: ppa's are on own risk mate
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !ppa | CravateRouge
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> CravateRouge: use chromium-browser as alternative?
[13:02] <ioria> CravateRouge, which ppa exactly  have you chosen ?
[13:03] <ioria> CravateRouge, this ? ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[13:04] <CravateRouge> ioria: I choose this one: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8
[13:04] <ioria> ok
[13:04] <ioria> CravateRouge, have you purge it, now ?
[13:04] <ioria> *ed
[13:04] <ioria> CravateRouge, i mean, removed ?
[13:05] <CravateRouge> lotuspsychje: Yes i'm aware, it's why i didn't make update with this ppa!
[13:05] <CravateRouge> ioria: I removed the ppa
[13:06] <ioria> CravateRouge, usually is better purge than a simple remove
[13:06] <CravateRouge> ioria: You can purge a ppa?
[13:06] <ioria> CravateRouge, btw, whick browser ?
[13:06] <ioria> CravateRouge, yes
[13:06] <CravateRouge> ioria: firefox
[13:06] <cfhowlett>  !ppapurge  | CravateRouge
[13:06] <ioria> CravateRouge, oh... not a great choise then
[13:06] <ioria> *choice
[13:07] <ntz> ioria: I installed them
[13:07] <ioria> ntz ok... why ?
[13:07] <ntz> MonkeyDust: I don't need to remove old kernels, it will solve nothing
[13:07] <ntz> my problem is here
[13:07] <CravateRouge> ioria: what's the great choice?
[13:07] <ntz>  http://www.starenka.net/ntz/20151222_132837.jpg ?
[13:08] <CravateRouge> cfhowlett: Thanks
[13:08] <cfhowlett> happy2help! CravateRouge
[13:08] <ioria> CravateRouge, chorium-browser with pepper.... Google Chrome , or using FF with old (11) flashplugin player
[13:08] <CravateRouge> ubottu: Thanks too
[13:08] <ioria> *chromium
[13:09] <CravateRouge> ioria: so you don't use flash with firefox?
[13:09] <CravateRouge> ioria: the old flashplugin contain many bug
[13:09] <ioria> CravateRouge, i'd say , yes .... and it's working ... but you could need an updated version to see a clip ... and in that scenario the plugin won't work
[13:11] <CravateRouge> ioria: freshpayerplugin works better than flashplugin player on my computer
[13:11] <ioria> CravateRouge, there are wrappers, that takes pepper from Chome and adapts for FF.... but not well tested.... finally you can explre HTLM5
[13:12] <ioria> CravateRouge, oh, really ?
[13:12] <CravateRouge> ioria: i love HTML5 but many plateforms don't allow this technology
[13:12] <ioria> CravateRouge, freshplugin is working  everywhere  ?
[13:13] <afidegnum> hello, pls how do I set the environment variable so it can be available globally?
[13:13] <CravateRouge> ioria: yeah, the mouse pointer disappear in full screen and the computer don't sleep with the full screen!
[13:13] <afidegnum> i using pycharm but using either virtual environment, my local account even on root, seems not to find the value of the environment variables,
[13:14] <ioria> CravateRouge,  so go on using fresh ....
[13:16] <CravateRouge> freshplugin uses the 20 version of flash player, if you know how i could fix the bug of the mouse pointer and the bug of suspending during fullscreen i go back immediatly on the 11 version
[13:16] <CravateRouge> ioria: freshplugin uses the 20 version of flash player, if you know how i could fix the bug of the mouse pointer and the bug of suspending during fullscreen i go back immediatly on the 11 version
[13:17] <ioria> CravateRouge,  :-]
[13:18] <ioria> CravateRouge,  have you tried Google Chrome or chromium ?
[13:18] <CravateRouge> ioria: sure for Netlix ^^
[13:18] <CravateRouge> Netflix*
[13:19] <ioria> CravateRouge,  sorry,  if fresh is working, why did you remove it ?
[13:20] <ioria> CravateRouge,  updadint other stuff ?
[13:20] <ioria> *updating
[13:20] <afidegnum> any insisght?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> afidegnum: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[13:21] <afidegnum> ok
[13:22] <CravateRouge> ioria: because you said it isn't working very well and maybe it's true, I 'm testing the package since 4 hours only
[13:22] <ioria> CravateRouge,  yes... it's testing
[13:23] <CravateRouge> ioria: what do you mean? Other stuff outside officials ppa?
[13:23] <ioria> CravateRouge,  " but I had to remove the ppa because it will update other packages" ^   you said
[13:24] <CravateRouge> ioria: oh yeah so i removed the ppa before the disaster!
[13:24] <ioria> CravateRouge,  ok
[13:26] <aotea> So, I installed wine 1.6, and seem to be having issues with the intalled program. Someone said I'd better use wine 1.8rc4. My guess is I'm going to have to uninstall the current wine, and then install the newest? And also redo the installation of the program I'm running on wine. Am I correct?
[13:26] <ioria> CravateRouge,  well now they say that  Fresh  " is now considered stable enough for general use." , but not in my experience
[13:27] <ioria> CravateRouge,  so i'll go for chomium
[13:28] <CravateRouge> I didn't know that, i follow the ubuntu-fr guide on flash who said to use freshpluginplayer because it was better for firefox
[13:28] <mcphail> aotea: is 1.8 in the default repos? If not, it wouldn't be supported here, I'm afraid. Generally you don't have to reinstall a program when you upgrade wine
[13:28] <CravateRouge> ioria: I didn't know that, i follow the ubuntu-fr guide on flash who said to use freshpluginplayer because it was better for firefox
[13:29] <ioria> CravateRouge,  could be.... but it's always a ppa (so external to the ubuntu repos) and we can't know what will do in your system
[13:30] <CravateRouge> ioria: you don't use ppa?
[13:30] <ioria> CravateRouge,  no
[13:30] <ioria> CravateRouge,  bu other people do
[13:30] <ioria> CravateRouge,  with no issues
[13:31] <aotea> mcphail, I don't know if it is, I added a ppa for the wine install eitherway so I guess not?
[13:31] <CravateRouge> ioria: i didn't know it was so dangerous
[13:32] <mcphail> aotea: Unfortunately, we can't support the PPA here. When I used to use it, you could install different versions side-by-side and call them with "wine1.5", "wine1.6" etc, but don't know if that is still the case
[13:32] <ioria> CravateRouge,  dangerous is a big word ... but they can cause troubles . you can try Chromium  with adobe-flasplugin , enabling Canonical Partner repo .   http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-adobe-flash-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[13:33] <mcphail> aotea: I've moved to using playonlinux now, and let that organise things
[13:33] <aotea> mcphail, ok thanks, I'll try poke around and see if I can find some more Wine centered channel
[13:33] <CravateRouge> ioria: I used chromium before but i prefer FF :)
[13:33] <mcphail> !wine | aotea
[13:34] <mcphail> aotea: looks like #winehq will be your best bet
[13:34] <aotea> Thanks!
[13:34] <ioria> CravateRouge, me too ... and if don't need particular features you can use the default  flashplugin-installer
[13:35] <ioria> *you
[13:35] <CravateRouge> ioria: i will but how do you fix the mouse pointer bug and the sreen saver bug with the fullscreen?
[13:36] <ioria> CravateRouge, maybe you can temporary disable  lightlocker
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> aotea: there's also a very active #gamingonlinux channel
[13:37] <CravateRouge> ioria: Don't you have the same bug?
[13:38] <ioria> CravateRouge, apparently not... but i don't use flash every day
[13:39] <CravateRouge> ioria: ok, thanks a lot for your help!
[13:41] <ioria> CravateRouge, you're welcome .... if you use it very much so maybe Chrome is better
[13:42] <CravateRouge> ioria: i think you're right, unfortunately :'(
[13:43] <ioria> CravateRouge, maybe if future we'll have some improvements ....
[13:43] <ioria> *in
[13:44] <CravateRouge> ioria: i hope
[13:44] <ioria> CravateRouge, *_*
[13:52] <aotea> I want to remember someone telling me adding PPAs are bad :P seeing how hard they are getting rid of. But why is it then almost everything one installs require a new PPA?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> aotea, nothing REQUIRES a ppa ...
[13:55] <k1l> aotea: because most from-windows-switchers are still used to "i need the latest version asap!"
[13:56] <k1l> aotea: but on ubuntu, the packages get bug-fix and security-fix backports. so the version number is not increased.
[13:59] <ntz> one more question:
[14:00] <ntz> I have here 14.04.03LTS, I enabled https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ... do anyone have an experience with it, does it work or is it bummer like the most of the other things around ubuntu, going to do: apt-get install xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 li
[14:01] <ntz> at least, in 14.04.03 is by default (iirc) Xorg and this wants to bring wayland
[14:02] <k1l> ntz: its used on several thousand machines. dont know why it should be "bummer"
[14:02] <k1l> ntz: and this will not force you to use wayland instead of xorg.
[14:02] <ntz> k1l: ok, thanks, perfect
[14:03] <ntz> I wanted to ask exactly for that
[14:26] <Morrwin> So noob question: Dropbox asks to relink folder each time I restart ubuntu. File location is on another partition. Is it because set partition doesn't automatic mount on startup? Once I'm logged I do see the partition and it's mounted...
[14:29] <SchrodingersScat> Morrwin: yep, could be.
[14:30] <roby59> ciaooo
[14:30] <roby59> list
[14:30] <BlackFate> Morrwin, the partitions mount when the session starts. If that happens after the dropbox daemon started, then you might have issues
[14:30] <SchrodingersScat> !it | roby59
[14:31] <SchrodingersScat> so either see if you can mount the thing quicker, or delay dropbox startup, and it might help you.
[14:31] <Morrwin> Hm
[14:32] <Morrwin> I'm downloading and using it on the default home now
[14:32] <Morrwin> I want to check if that's location is ok
[14:32] <roby59> join ubuntu-it
[14:33] <roby59> |list
[14:42] <SebastianTCL> no audio
[14:42] <SebastianTCL> my mic is not being detected
[14:42] <SebastianTCL> i got pulseaudio
[14:42] <SebastianTCL> am i supposed to get rid of alsa somehow?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> !sound | SebastianTCL
[14:42] <SebastianTCL> why is skype not picking up my mic
[14:43] <w0jtas1> anybody could tell me how can i push fix for particular package that doesn't currently have branch in launchpad? It only show diff to previous release
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> w0jtas1  that's a bit vague, start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:49] <w0jtas1> MonkeyDust: i just want to push very small patch that will change my life a lot ;)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> w0jtas1: keep xenial support seperated from here please
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> w0jtas1  in xenial? type /j #ubuntu+1
[14:58] <ren0v0> Hey, if i get this message from syslog "kernel: [12716.897970] r8169 0000:06:00.2 eth0: link down"  would that be local driver issue or similar, or router issue ?
[14:58] <ren0v0> its doing it since today only, at the moment once every few minutes
[14:59] <jarnos> Since which release version you are able to remove old kernesl by apt-get autoremove --purge ?
[14:59] <jarnos> ^kernels
[14:59] <curlyears> greetings, all
[14:59] <curlyears> I am less confused today, so maybe we could try again?
[15:00] <ad4my> does ubuntu have issues with ipv6?
[15:00] <nicomachus> ad4my: not really, what's your actual issue?
[15:00] <ad4my> repos are slow as f
[15:00] <ad4my> no issues with previous distro
[15:00] <curlyears> my LTS 14.04.3 syetm prompted me to install an ubuntu 'pushed' upgrade (16.57), so I didi, and now my system won't boot
[15:01] <ad4my> and no issues with ubintu pre-ipv6
[15:01] <Myrtti> ad4my: have you ran the tool to choose the fastest repo, yet?
[15:01] <ad4my> yes
[15:01] <micha_> hello
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> ad4my: maybe the #ubuntu-mirrors have known issues on repos?
[15:02] <curlyears> so, anyway, yesterday, someone in #ubuntu+1 assisted me in booting under Live-CD, mounting my HDD, and chrooting to it.  I am unable to duplicate that today
[15:02] <ad4my> i disabled ipv6 and noticed big improvement, but cant figure out why
[15:02] <groblei> so ubuntu is going out of business, huh? i hear they are shutting down the software center and finally removing the spyware. guess without amazon's money they are finished!
[15:03] <ad4my> is this more so a networking question or is this channel fine?
[15:03] <curlyears> I boot up, cd to /, mkdir, then try to mount /dev/sda /dir  and it tells me    mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /temp busy
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> groblei: xenial with have gnome software
[15:03] <nicomachus> ad4my: there is ##networking
[15:04] <curlyears> I don't get it.  I thought that was the way we did it yesterday
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> groblei: and its not spyware, you can disable amazon in ubuntu
[15:04] <curlyears> can NYONE ASSIST?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> !patience | curlyears
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  and no caps
[15:05] <groblei> lotuspsychje, unless they ask you whether or not to enable it during install, it's spyware. by definition.
[15:05] <curlyears> i REPEATED A QUESTION?
[15:05] <curlyears> oops, sowwy for the aps
[15:05] <steban> \Q
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> groblei: and its offtopic here
[15:05] <steban> \quit
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> groblei  spying is when you don't know you're being watched
[15:06] <curlyears> groblei:   no, I believe the defintion of spyware is that it collects and transmits inforationm about you and your syetm to the perpetrator
[15:06] <curlyears> without your knowledge
[15:06] <groblei> MonkeyDust, right. they don't tell you what they are sending to canonical and amazon.
[15:07] <groblei> so you don't know you just see the results
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> groblei  not that discussion again... take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <groblei> but finally disabled in 16.04
[15:08] <groblei> MonkeyDust, yes yes... any discussion of the truth about Ubuntu's sleezy business practices is somehow off-topic. don't you think these new users have a right to know?
[15:08] <k1l> groblei: stop that FUD.
[15:09] <ntz> is it update-grub2 command that I have to call after editing etc/default/grub ?
[15:09] <groblei> k1l, FUD would imply I am saying something that is not true. that is not the case.
[15:09] <curlyears> hello again, MonkeyDustgroblei:  I don't think this qulifies as as "sleazy business practices,"  afterall, ubuntu is not chargiong you anythinig for their product
[15:09] <ntz> also one more point .... ubuntu here doesn't show during the boot after pressing esc a dev/tty1 console log, just black screen
[15:09] <curlyears> hi, k1|
[15:11] <curlyears> *sigh*  I spent 9.5 hours yesterday on #ubuntu+1, and they were very helpful.  This problem is driving me insane, and apparently is quite complex
[15:12] <k1l> curlyears: what is the issue now?
[15:13] <curlyears> k1|:   can you walk me through mounting my HDD and chrooting to it once again, please?  I can't seem to gett it to worl today. I must have forgotten a step or two
[15:13] <DJones> curlyears: You can check the logs of yesterdays #ubuntu+1 here, maybe that will remind you http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/12/21/%23ubuntu+1.html
[15:13] <curlyears> same essential issue, k1|, can't boot fropm HDD
[15:13] <curlyears> how does one check logs?
[15:14] <curlyears> ah
[15:14] <k1l> curlyears: honestly: boot the live-dvd/usb. then copy all your data to your other drive (that new one) then make a re install.
[15:14] <k1l> that system is a total mess.
[15:15] <k1l> curlyears: and i would not use lvm or btrfs or such in your case then. just a plain easy standard ubuntu install.
[15:16] <Olof_szary> Hello. I would like to install 15.10/UEFI on my windows7 pc. I would like to make LVM on LUKS (or something simmilar). Do I need separate /boot/ partition?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | Olof_szary
[15:18] <Olof_szary> lotuspsychje: I do not need raid, Using single hdd. I do, however, want single password for swapspace, / and /home
[15:18] <xyzabc> could one send please a highlighted message to me, i'm setting up irssi :-)
[15:19] <curlyears> *rats*  the log doesn't go back far enough.
[15:19] <Olof_szary> xyzabc: foo
[15:19] <xyzabc> awesome! thank you very much
[15:19] <k1l> !irclogs | curlyears
[15:19] <whallz> hey, i need to fix the fraudulent UTN-USERFirst-Hardware certificates, how can update or renew them? i executed  sudo update-ca-certificates but its the same, when using chrome i get NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID because the cert is revoked
[15:19] <xyzabc> irssi rocks
[15:20] <curlyears> k1|:  that's what I started to do this morning, but I can seem to manually mount anything
[15:20] <k1l> curlyears: you dont mount stuff with the fstab manually.
[15:21] <k1l> curlyears: boot that live ubuntu. put that usb.hdd into it (after booting). open gparted. format that usb.hdd. then copy the stuff from the harddisk to the usb.hdd.
[15:21] <curlyears> k1|:   i  mean I created a dir in /, then typed mount /dev/sda /dir   and it comes back:mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /temp busy
[15:22] <k1l> curlyears: the automounting does work on the live usb.
[15:22] <snowkidind> question: how does ubuntu store commands? I built vim from git, make install, it was buggy so I apt-get’d it and now the vim command points to /usr/local/bin/vim when it should point to /usr/bin/vim
[15:22] <k1l> curlyears: you are making it far more complicated that it needs to be
[15:22] <curlyears> problme is, if I try to umounr rhwe device, it tells me it isn't mountef  )-:
[15:23] <curlyears> how so, k1||?
[15:23] <k1l> reboot to a clean live-ubuntu. then stop fiddeling with wrong commands.
[15:23] <Olof_szary> other question then. What partitions do I need to set up, using new (15.10) ubuntu intaller
[15:23] <Olof_szary> while having win7 installed, UEFI bios
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: take k1l clean advice and install fresh
[15:24] <curlyears> k1|:  OK, booted, what do I do next?
[15:24] <k1l> curlyears: we need a clean ubuntu. not one you already messed with wrong commands. so better reboot.
[15:25] <curlyears> never mind, I just noted something:   the 500GB drive is showing in the OS bar on the left of the screen
[15:26] <k1l> curlyears: that is what we told you several hours already. you need to stop messing with wrong commands and using the automated magic ubuntu brings you already.
[15:26] <curlyears> how do I fins the dir name for those drives?  they're listed as stuff like 3TB Drive, etc
[15:26] <curlyears> \Volume, not Drive
[15:29] <curlyears> k1|:  I was attempting to reexecute the commands TJ- walked me through yesterday, but rather badly, apparently
[15:30] <Forgetaboutit> Hey, I have a problem with a 14.04 LTS server. It pretty much randomly crashes (no longer reachable over SSH; all services down) without any evidence (as far as I can see). As long as I don't have any real load, crashes rarely happen, if at all. But if I run a somewhat demanding Java server application, crashes happen often (up to multiple times a day). I don't know what to look for to find the root cause. How would I proceed in
[15:30] <Forgetaboutit> diagnosing?
[15:30] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: check your syslog
[15:30] <auronandace> curlyears: use tab to complete nicks on irc
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  type k1 and then hit tab to autocomplete the nickname
[15:31] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: That's the first thing I did. I doesn't really indicate anything
[15:31] <curlyears> for some nicks, the list is so long, it takes longer to tab complete than ity does to just type out the nick in quhestion
[15:32] <auronandace> curlyears: if you are going to type it out then you need to get it right
[15:32] <curlyears> auronandace:   how am I getting it wrong?
[15:32] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: The last thing that ran is some cron job check
[15:32] <auronandace> curlyears: you keep typing k1| not k1l
[15:33] <kurtis> /home/clide/Desktop/programs/ (copy).c
[15:33] <curlyears> ahh,  see
[15:33] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: mind sharing it and some here can take a second look?
[15:33] <ntz> again, I'd like to request a help with this - asking since friday, nobody was able to help me here - apt-get update never finishes, why please http://fpaste.org/303999/45079833/raw/
[15:33] <ntz> ^^ which repo hangs there ?
[15:33] <curlyears> ls -al
[15:33] <ntz> I am not ubuntu guy - I have just been punished with this cruel and unusual punishemnt (to fix someone's else ubuntu)
[15:34] <nicomachus> ntz: looking.
[15:35] <ntz> thanks
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> ntz  fixing things is a great way to learn something new
[15:35] <ntz> MonkeyDust: I'm linux guy 15+ years .... I know what I need :) ... but really, I'm asking for this ubuntu specific thing
[15:35] <curlyears> again:   where do I l,ook for the dirs under which the variousa volumes of my HDD are mouonted?
[15:35] <nicomachus> ntz: /etc/apt/sources.list is only showing official ubuntu sources. do you have anything in /etc/apt/sourceslist.d/?
[15:35] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: sure thing, I'll upload to a paste
[15:35] <k1l> ntz: how long does it hang?
[15:36] <ntz> nicomachus: no, that's why I've added ``apt-cache policy''
[15:36] <auronandace> curlyears: they usually appear under /media
[15:36] <k1l> curlyears: i strongly suggest you stop that path.
[15:36] <ntz> I temporarily removed all things from sources.list.d
[15:36] <k1l> curlyears: use the "nautilus" filemanager. that does the magic for you so you dont have to worry.
[15:36] <curlyears> ahhh, thanks, auronandace
[15:36] <ntz> k1l: thanks, I temporarily resolved the issue with acpi=off on kernel cmdline ... presumably pci=noacpi should work also, so hangs are now resolved
[15:37] <ntz> k1l: but thankis again !!!!
[15:37] <curlyears> k1l, I can't fins a way to recursive copy dirs from one device to aNOTHER UNDER THE FILe manager
[15:37] <ntz> curlyears: type ``mount'' or ``cat /etc/mtab''
[15:38] <k1l> curlyears: use the mouse. right click, copy, paste, done
[15:38] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14138687/
[15:38] <curlyears> k1l:  if I try to paste to another device or even annother dir that wsay, nothing happens
[15:38] <auronandace> curlyears: what do you mean by recursive copy? there is always a root which everything is stored under
[15:39] <k1l> curlyears: in the left side of the nautilus, it lists all devices(partitions) that are seen from the OS.
[15:39] <ntz> nicomachus: do you see there please why apt-get update stucks ?
[15:39] <curlyears> auronandace:    the equivalent of cp -r 'dir'
[15:39] <nicomachus> ntz: looking around at a few different things... give me a moment.
[15:39] <ntz> thanks
[15:39] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: there have been two crashes: one at Dec 21, about 14:40 or so and one at Dec 22, about 04:15. You see the system booting again when I initiated a reboot
[15:39] <k1l> ntz: how long did you wait?
[15:40] <curlyears> k1l: yers, I see my HDDS there but they don't have useful names
[15:40] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: holy cow, that's a heckuva log.
[15:40] <k1l> curlyears: then click on them and see whats in it
[15:40] <ntz> k1l: longer than enough :) - I mean, without acpi=off it always freezed in while
[15:40] <ntz> now it works for some time already .....
[15:41] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: Yeah, that's /var/log/syslog
[15:41] <ntz> and also now ``dmesg | egrep -i error\|fail'' doesn't show one irq related error
[15:41] <curlyears> there is nothing  but some seemingly randoom tmp*.0 file, which is empty
[15:41] <k1l> curlyears: wait, was that encrypted?
[15:42] <curlyears> k1;:   I don't think so, no
[15:42] <curlyears> but maybe
[15:42] <curlyears> for the 3TB drive, I did not request encrytion whne I did the mkfs
[15:42] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: both times it was after that cron.hourly. do you have a log for cron in /var/log/cron.log?
[15:42] <k1l> curlyears: cant you just ask the one who set that box up?
[15:43] <pesari> ntz: this might help in resolving your hang issue:  apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update
[15:43] <k1l> why using mkfs? why not using gui tools like gparted.?!
[15:43] <ntz> pesari: perfect, thanks, minute, I'll giva ya an output
[15:43] <curlyears> *I set this box up, months ago.  it was working fine until the other day with this failed update
[15:43] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: Unfortunately, I don't
[15:43] <k1l> curlyears: so did you use encryption or not on the install=
[15:43] <k1l> ?
[15:44] <curlyears> I don't honestly recall.  Possibly
[15:44] <curlyears> it was in July, that's forever ago  )-:
[15:45] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: that's ok it would've been similar to that syslog, just less stuff.
[15:46] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: anything in /var/log/kern.log?
[15:46] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: /etc/cron.hourly is empty anyway
[15:47] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: Just generic boot stuff
[15:47] <ntz> pesari: this is the result since Not Found  start appearing in the log http://fpaste.org/304005/7992001/raw/
[15:47] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: and you've eliminated hardware issues? memtest, SMART check, etc?
[15:47] <ntz> pesari: these are my repos http://fpaste.org/303999/45079833/raw/
[15:48] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: I'm not sure how to do this
[15:48] <k1l> ntz: see if that helps: http://askubuntu.com/a/575130/31260
[15:49] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: I'll check
[15:49] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: a memtest will check your RAM, that's probably your first priority...
[15:49] <curlyears> doggone it, the opnly thing shhowing in /media is "ubuntu"  and "cdrom"
[15:50] <k1l> ntz: wait
[15:50] <ntz> k1l: did that already :D
[15:50] <nicomachus> Forgetaboutit: see this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/591488/how-do-i-run-memtest86/591502
[15:51] <curlyears> yet nautilus sidebar shows the HDD devices, and I can open and enter them
[15:51] <k1l> ntz: first try this one: sudo apt-get clean, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*, sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update
[15:51] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: Thank you, already running a SMART test; will check for memtest too
[15:51] <k1l> ntz: ok, if that is not the ipv6 issue revert it and try that ^
[15:51] <nicomachus> great. once you've eliminated hardware issues, then perhaps #ubuntu-server can help you dig deeper into logs.
[15:51] <k1l> that will clear all the package lists and will force to get a new one.
[15:52] <Forgetaboutit> nicomachus: Perfect, thanks for helping out!
[15:52] <curlyears> k1l:  so what do I do now?
[15:52] <curlyears> oops, I meant k1l
[15:52] <k1l> curlyears: copy your data from your hdd to the usb.hdd
[15:53] <k1l> the important data.
[15:53] <curlyears> k1l, *HOW* do I accesss then from term session?  I n eed to know the dirname under which they're moounted'
[15:54] <k1l> curlyears: forget the termnial.
[15:54] <k1l> curlyears: you are just messing everything up with using wrong terminal commands. use the nautilus filemanager
[15:54] <rom1504> Hi, I'm getting a "libGL: screen 0 does not appear to be DRI2 capable"
[15:54] <rom1504> anyone knows how to fix that ?
[15:55] <auronandace> curlyears: i'm not sure how you are having so much difficulty, plug in the usb and look at what appears in the right of the file manager, open it and copy and paste
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> rom1504  where, when? what are you doing?
[15:55] <nicomachus> rom1504: what's your ubuntu version and graphics card setup?
[15:55] <auronandace> left
[15:58] <curlyears> auronandace: when I try to do that it doens't let me paste:  paste is greyed out
[15:58] <ntz> k1l: it didn't help :(
[15:58] <regedit_> hello! my system has UEFI, and I have dual boot to Windows and Kubuntu. Here is my lsblk and fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14138686/ kparted: http://i.snag.gy/pvBeO.jpg How can I get rid of Windows and expand the Kubuntu OS to the entire drive?
[15:58] <ntz> it must be something wrong with repos
[15:58] <curlyears> and apparently the dir is too large to fit on the 8GB thumb, so I have top ut it on the 3TB drive
[15:59] <ntz> and nobody from here is able to answer such an obvious question - evan which repo from the list ????
[15:59] <Sc0tty-> how can I install a package from package manager then not be able to locate / use the program once it has been downloaded?
[15:59] <k1l> ntz: open software and updates in systemettings and choose another mirror near you
[16:00] <ntz> k1l: ``systemsettings'' is kde app, you can use that for manage repos
[16:00] <ntz> **can't
[16:00] <rom1504> MonkeyDust: nicomachus: trying to run leagues of legends with play on linux, using nvidia-prime set on using my nvidia card GeForce GTX 660M using nvidia 352 driver, on ubuntu 15.10
[16:00] <nicomachus> Sc0tty-: search for it in the Dash, or use terminal and do "dpkg -L <packagename>
[16:01] <rom1504> (it works "fine" using the intel card)
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: try a lower version of nvidia driver
[16:01] <k1l> ntz: sorry, dont know kde
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: 340 or 346
[16:01] <nicomachus> or the open source driver, rom1504
[16:01] <rom1504> glxgears works fine though...
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: alot of issues on the 352 driver
[16:01] <ntz> k1l: you can't manage repos from ``systemsettings''
[16:01] <rom1504> ok
[16:02] <k1l> ntz: on non kde, there is a setting to choose a mirror for the repos
[16:02] <rom1504> (aren't the open source drivers slow ?)
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: have you installed nvidia-prime also?
[16:02] <rom1504> yes
[16:02] <rom1504> well
[16:03] <rom1504> it was installed out of the box
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: try the lower driver + performance mode enabled
[16:03] <rom1504> trying 340
[16:03] <curlyears> k1l:  nope, nUTILUS WON'T LET ME COPY DIRS
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: in nvidia-settings
[16:03] <curlyears> oops, sowwy about caps
[16:03] <BluesKaj> rom1504, yeah the 346 driver is probly best for your gpu, the 352 seems to be a problem in some cases
[16:04] <k1l> ntz: http://askubuntu.com/a/157163/31260
[16:04] <k1l> curlyears: which dir is it? is it restriced in permissions?
[16:05] <Sc0tty-> okay so I ran apt-get install vera++, then I ran dpkg -L vera++ and it tells me that vera++ is not installed, why is this?
[16:05] <nexace> my /var/log/syslog/ is chown'd by syslog:syslog. I've added myself to the syslog group and the permissions for group is +r. Why am I getting permission denied when i try to cd /var/log/syslog?
[16:06] <curlyears> \k1l:  my "home dir"    /home/tkeller
[16:08] <Olof_szary> how to disable guest login on 15.10?
[16:08] <guest> Olof_szary: http://tipsonubuntu.com/2015/04/28/disable-guest-session-ubuntu-15-04/
[16:09] <guest> Olof_szary: It says "ubuntu 15.04" but the process is exactly the same
[16:09] <curlyears> thank you, all
[16:09] <rom1504> annnd no, nvidia 340 didn't change anything
[16:09] <Olof_szary> guest: ls /etc/lightdm gives only users.conf, which is totally different
[16:10] <curlyears> I've got it copying from a term session now
[16:10] <Bendr> Hello
[16:10] <guest> Olof_szary: The instructions are correct. You are *creating* the file lightdm.conf
[16:10] <guest> Olof_szary: "When the file opens, add below lines if it’s empty"
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: how about 346 and reboot, make sure nvidia-prime is installed right
[16:10] <Bendr> i'm trying to reset lubuntu's default desktop
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: and performance mode enabled in nvidia-settings
[16:11] <Olof_szary> guest: ok, thx
[16:11] <rom1504> performance mode doesn't seem to change anything either
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Bendr fix broken packages
[16:11] <SylvieLorxu> Hey everyone, I'm on 14.04 and am trying to run a QtQuick app I created on Gentoo. However, I get the error 'module "QtQuick" version 2.5 is not installed'. Any clue how I could find out which package I need to install for it? I've searched the web but couldn't find anything
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: if you set it to nvidia card, it must make a difference
[16:11] <rom1504> not sure how to install nvidia-346, I'm going through the "driver manager" GUI thingy, and only 340 is available
[16:11] <rom1504> (and 352)
[16:11] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, it doesn't fail to boot i just want to revert changes to default
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: ah ok, 340 is your best bet then
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: have you tried this on LTS?
[16:12] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, is there any quick command i can use to make new config file or something
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> Bendr: fix broken packages can revert stuff
[16:13] <rom1504> well yes setting it to nvidia card makes a difference, it only not work with the nvidia card
[16:13] <rom1504> with the intel card it works, but it's slow
[16:13] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, what's the command?
[16:13] <rom1504> lotuspsychje: it was working with ubuntu 15.04
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> Bendr: enter the recoverymode ==> and choose fix broken packages
[16:13] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, i just did an upgrade for my lubuntu
[16:13] <rom1504> hmm no nevermind
[16:14] <rom1504> on ubuntu 15.04 I had bunblebee, which actually wasn't really working either
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> Bendr: so upgrading broke something?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-prime instead
[16:14] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, no, i just wanted to see the default backgrounds and stuff
[16:14] <rom1504> yes that's what I have now lotuspsychje
[16:14] <herol3oy> hi, anyone from switzerland to ask him/her about some job instructions in fields of linux (ubuntu) administration?
[16:15] <rom1504> and what's surprising is glxgears works fine
[16:15] <rom1504> even minecraft works fine with the nvidia cards
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> herol3oy  ask here and wait
[16:15] <rom1504> it says it's using the nvidia card and all
[16:15] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, i did that before it wasn't much about recovering, it was a simple copying and pasting a config file or something like tha
[16:15] <rom1504> but no luck with playonlinux
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: try an LTS version, see if it performs better
[16:16] <nicomachus> rom1504: it very well may be an issue with some libraries in your wine prefix.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> Bendr: maybe the #lubuntu guys know hwoto reset config
[16:17] <rom1504> nicomachus: it might be yes, not sure how to check that though
[16:18] <rom1504> I tried going through playonlinux menus, but it's not clear where I could change stuff
[16:18] <Bendr> lotuspsychje, okay, thanks
[16:18] <rom1504> lotuspsychje: yeah I guess I could do that, but it's not worth reinstalling everything just to make this work
[16:18] <nicomachus> rom1504: you can verify your prefix setup with the guys at #playonlinux or #winehq
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: if both drivers arent performing well...
[16:19] <rom1504> the intel driver works
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: your not supposed to play games witj the intel card right
[16:19] <rom1504> it would be nicer to use the nvidia card but just nicer
[16:19] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: it'll work, just not well..
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: performance mode is for gaming
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: tested the opensource driver?
[16:20] <rom1504> it's nouveau right ?
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: yes
[16:20] <rom1504> I'll try that
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: if all 3 drivers arent performing, i would try LTS or file a bug against your ubuntu version
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: might wanna check syslog/dmesg also for nvidia errors too
[16:22] <curlyears> thanks again
[16:23] <nicomachus> the day LoL releases a native linux version is the day we can convince millions of teenage windows users to join team Tux...
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: most users have good experience with 340/346 + nvidia-prime on optimus cards
[16:24] <rom1504> ah, nouveau works
[16:27] <rom1504> is there anything like a nouveau-settings ?
[16:27] <rom1504> (is it always using the nvidia card, are there perf settings ?)
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: not sure you can tweak nouveau as nvidia-prime
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: but you can test in gaming if it performs well
[16:29] <rom1504> yeah I will
[16:29] <rom1504> thanks for the help !
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: welcome :p
[16:34] <CtrlC> Hey guys, I have to manually mount usbs every time.. usbmount is installed and enabled. Any thoughts?
[16:35] <rom1504> ah nice I'm getting 70 ips, not like the 30 I was getting + graphic bugs with intel card
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: if i was you, i would file a bug on the nvidia drivers
[16:36] <rom1504> I bet it would be a bit better with the nvidia drivers, but that's enough to play
[16:37] <rom1504> lotuspsychje: where can I do that ?
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> !bug | rom1504
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: example ubuntu-bug nvidia-352 and explain whats happening to your system, add syslog/dmesg
[16:38] <rom1504> ok
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> rom1504: meanwhile you can play on nouveau :p
[16:39] <lubarch> how to write single file to cd ? by commandline only
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !burn | lubarch
[16:40] <lubarch> okay thnx
[16:42] <xuan> hi guys
[16:47] <django_> good day everyone
[16:47] <nicomachus> mornin' django_
[16:47] <django_> im running a ubuntu vps which was firefox version 43.0, I would like to downgrade it to version 30
[16:48] <django_> will this do it : http://stackoverflow.com/a/25645344
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> django_: its reccomended to use package versions for your ubuntu version
[16:49] <django_> lotuspsychje, sorry? im new to this
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> django_: woch ubuntu version do you have?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> wich
[16:49] <django_> let me check
[16:50] <django_> i think its 14.04
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox trusty | django_
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> django_: so its not reccomended to go lower version
[16:50] <django_> ok
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> django_: maybe you wanna share what its for exactly?
[16:56] <django_> lotuspsychje, yeah it didnt help
[16:56] <django_> how do i get version 43 back?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> django_: not sure what you did?
[16:58] <django_> lotuspsychje, https://bpaste.net/show/4a8fbdc34bc1
[16:58] <django_> did that to downgrade
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> django_: remove the old version
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> django_: and reinstall firefox with apt-get
[16:59] <cyber> Anyone have a good tutorial on encrypting your linux system after you've already installed everything?
[16:59] <cyber> i guess, specifically the home folder/partition
[17:00] <django_> lotuspsychje, which instruction removes it?
[17:00] <alexus> hi
[17:00] <cyber> kil_ are you in here today?
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt | cyber
[17:08] <nllrte> anyone know if there's somewhere i can find out exactly what packages make up a minimal install?
[17:09] <nllrte> i'm trying to setup a local mirror to pick only what's in minimal, plus openssh-server
[17:09] <ioria> nllrte, mini.sio + ssh server
[17:09] <ioria> nllrte, mini.iso
[17:10] <Shady> I've a problem with the WiFi, connection iformation reads 150 mb/s, system monitor reads 33mb/s the terminal reads 39mb/s and the connection actuallu too slow.
[17:10] <ioria> !mini
[17:13] <ioria> Shady, try with wavemon
[17:13] <nllrte> ioria, downloading from the internet is what'd like to prevent
[17:13] <ioria> nllrte, oh....
[17:13] <Shady> ioria, is that an app?
[17:14] <ioria> !info  wavemon | Shady
[17:15] <ioria> nllrte, you want a minimal install without downloading it from internet ....
[17:15] <nllrte> ioria: yes please!
[17:16] <ioria> nllrte, something like this ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04/release/
[17:16] <nllrte> i've sort of reverse engineered the package list i need to grab but it's made for an ugly debmirror config
[17:17] <regedit> hello! How can I get rid of Windows and expand the Kubuntu OS to the entire drive? my system has UEFI with dual boot to Windows and Kubuntu. Here is my lsblk and fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14138686/ kparted: http://i.snag.gy/pvBeO.jpg
[17:17] <ioria> nllrte, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[17:17] <OerHeks> nllrte, minimal without internet is just the regular iso. removal of most packages is a lot of work, most of them are considdered 'core-package of the desktop-metapackage'
[17:18] <OerHeks> so you are heading to a lot of trial-and-errors
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> nllrte  havent really followed, but try this: mount the iso, read /casper/filesystem.manifest
[17:20] <nllrte> thanks MonkeyDust, i see now that that's what ioria was alluding to with the cdimage link ^
[17:20] <nllrte> thanks ioria
[17:21] <ioria> nllrte, you're welcome
[17:23] <dfcnvt> What do you think of this installation plan?  http://imgur.com/ak9YO74
[17:23] <dfcnvt> Forgive me if this is elementary but I don't know if installing OS in SATA HDD is good idea or SSD is best?
[17:24] <ioria> dfcnvt, we'll be loading movies from a usb stick ....
[17:25] <OerHeks> I doubt elementary OS runs faster from hdd .. but that might be a wild guess
[17:26] <dfcnvt> So, it can be done with only OS (Ubuntu or ArchLinux) in SSD (120 GB) and the rest of the /home information should be in SATA-HDD (1 TB)?
[17:27] <Shady> ioria, thanks , any way to maximize the Rx out of the bandwidth?
[17:27] <nolsen> Is there a bug regarding "Disable Touchpad while typing" under Mouse and Touchpad settings because it isn't working.
[17:28] <nicomachus> nolsen: the setting isn't working?
[17:28] <nolsen> nope.
[17:28] <nolsen> I type and test, doesn't work.
[17:28] <nicomachus> nolsen: try doing it manually from a terminal: "syndaemon -i 1 -K -d
[17:29] <nolsen> nicomachus: That will disable my two finger scrolling
[17:29] <nicomachus> 1 is the number of seconds after the last key is pressed before enabling touchpad, you can modify.
 nicomachus: That will disable my two finger scrolling
[17:30] <nolsen> I already tried that before, because I saw it.
[17:30] <nolsen> but it disables my two-finger scrolling.
[17:30] <nicomachus> ok, one sec.
[17:30] <dfcnvt> I'm trying to be smart about where and which drive should I install an OS.   I tends to install many application and create many files.
[17:30] <ioria> Shady, what kind of problem are you having ?
[17:31] <Shady> the mb/s is around 150, but the internet is too slow
[17:32] <nicomachus> nolsen: while I'm looking, here's the bug for that issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1351772
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> !partition | dfcnvt read this a bit
[17:35] <ioria> Shady, can you paste /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[17:35] <nolsen> nicomachus: So is there a workaround?
[17:35] <nicomachus> nolsen: just that command that also disables two-finger scrolling, from what I can see.
[17:36] <AndChat607476> Hello! My Ubuntu 14.04 suddenly started throwing the error 'status:DRDY ERR error: abrt read FPDMA queued emask 0*1 device error' can you help me out guys? Is this is a hard drive error?
[17:37] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: looks like it. run a SMART check and see if you get any errors.
[17:37] <AndChat607476> How do you do that?
[17:37] <nicomachus> !SMART | AndChat607476
[17:39] <AndChat607476> Okay, but the minute I start my lappy it keeps printing the error. How exactly do you want me use smart?
[17:39] <Shady> ioria, # /etc/nsswitch.conf
[17:39] <Shady> #
[17:39] <Shady> # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
[17:39] <Shady> # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try:
[17:39] <Shady> # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.
[17:39] <Shady> passwd:         compat
[17:39] <ioria> Shady, not here use pastebinit or paste directly on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> Shady  ,ext time, use a pastebin fort multiple lines
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> next*
[17:40] <Shady> networks:       files
[17:40] <Shady> protocols:      db files
[17:40] <Shady> services:       db files
[17:40] <Shady> ethers:         db files
[17:40] <Shady> rpc:            db files
[17:40] <Shady> netgroup:       nis
[17:40] <ioria> Shady, ok..... sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:42] <ioria> Shady, then    cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | pastebinit
[17:42] <Shady> ioria, done
[17:43] <ioria> Shady, maybe give us the url ...
[17:43] <AndChat607476> Hello
[17:43] <AndChat607476> ?
[17:43] <Shady> timed out
[17:43] <bovas> hello
[17:43] <mavi> is it me youre looking for?
[17:45] <Shady> ioria, failed to connect ernno socket error
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> mavi  yes, i missed you
[17:45] <ioria> Shady, when you get that error ?
[17:45] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: you can boot from a Live USB and then check the drive
[17:46] <mavi> hehe
[17:46] <bovas>  /SET autocreate_own_query OFF
[17:46] <ioria> Shady, anyway, i'm interested only in the line : hosts
[17:46] <AndChat607476> Okay. And run smart after that?
[17:46] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: yes.
[17:48] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: there also seem to be users reporting that setting "options libata noacpi=1" on /etc/modprobe.d/options resolves the issue
[17:50] <alice_> hello ,how i can install wireless drivers??
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> !wife | alice_ start here
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | alice_ start here
[17:51] <alice_> thx
[17:51] <dina> thhonga poren
[17:53] <Rubiksmomo> Could someone please help me fix my Nvidia driver? When I try to login I get a distorted image for a second and then it returns to login screen.
[17:53] <Rubiksmomo> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:54] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, sudo lshw -c video
[17:55] <cyber> !encrypt
[17:55] <aotea> Just installed bumblebee and the other packages mentioned on the wiki for it, and now I only boot to black. Can't even get into tty1 or whatever (alt+shift+f1). Does this mean I need to run a fresh install or what?
[17:55] <Rubiksmomo> Can't copy it
[17:56] <AndChat607476> I just selected memtest
[17:56] <cyber> So, I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[17:56] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, how did you installed nvidia driver ?
[17:56] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, how did you install the  nvidia driver ?
[17:57] <cyber> I did NOT follow the encryption specific instructions, because I didn't have a usb handy to work as a live cd.
[17:57] <cyber> however, it appears as though my home directory is encrypted??
[17:57] <cyber> Can someone help me explain that?
[17:57] <hwpplayer1> Hi friends i see something about Long Term Support but i couldn't understand. When 14.04 LTS's support end ?
[17:57] <Rubiksmomo> Some apt repo. Can't remember which one but it was fresh
[17:57] <Shady> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14141163/
[17:58] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, can you open a console ? ctrl+alt+f1   (or f2)
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> hwpplayer1  2014 + 5 = 2019
[17:58] <Rubiksmomo> Yeah. I'm in console
[17:58] <hwpplayer1> MonkeyDust : I'll install it tonight okay.
[17:58] <ioria> Shady, you have already changed the hosts line ?
[17:59] <Shady> yes
[18:00] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, so via command line ? not with additional driver  Gui ?
[18:00] <Shady> ioria, yes
[18:00] <ioria> Shady, and no change ?
[18:00] <Shady> ioria, no still
[18:01] <Rubiksmomo> Installed Nvidia driver from terminal months ago. Worked well until now. Maybe a kernel update broke it, not sure.
[18:02] <alice_> next question, my terminal says:10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[18:02] <alice_> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
[18:02] <alice_> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[18:02] <alice_> 	Memory at e4000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[18:02] <alice_> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[18:02] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, sudo lshw -c video | grep driver
[18:02] <alice_> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[18:02] <ikonia> alice_: use pastebin.ubuntu.com to share large information posts
[18:03] <Rubiksmomo> Returns no line with text "driver"
[18:03] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, so it's not loading it...
[18:03] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, desktop ?
[18:03] <Shady> ioria, is there a way to make it better after these changes?
[18:04] <alice_> i cant good english..
[18:04] <alice_> is a desktop pc
[18:04] <Gallomimia> and what language do you speak?
[18:04] <alice_> german
[18:04] <Gallomimia> !de | alice_
[18:04] <Rubiksmomo> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS desktop. Only login screen and terminal works.
[18:04] <ioria> Shady, sudo lshw -c netwotk  | pastebinit
[18:05] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, no, i mean desktop or laptop ?
[18:05] <alice_> hallo ich habe ein problem mein wireless wird nicht erkannt, bin gerade von windows umgestiegen
[18:05] <alice_> was mache ich jetzt??
[18:05] <Rubiksmomo> Ah. Desktop PC. GTX 960.
[18:06] <alice_> ich besitzte einen laptop
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> alice_  type /j #ubuntu-de
[18:06] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[18:06] <AndChat607476> I'm in grub>
[18:07] <AndChat607476> Is there any command I have to enter
[18:07] <Rubiksmomo> Can't copy the text back here
[18:07] <Shady> ioria, it gives usb then You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[18:08] <ioria> Shady, sudo lshw -c Netwotk  | pastebinit
[18:09] <c_korn> hello, why is $HOME in my schroot owned by root?
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> c_korn  that's the purpose of a chroot
[18:11] <c_korn> MonkeyDust: but before 15.10 is was owned by the user. when entering a schroot I now run `sudo chown korn ~` as fist command always
[18:11] <q_> how do I change Super-W to just be Super ?  Expo mode
[18:11] <ioria> Shady, or try again with   sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[18:11] <ntz> how do I open software centre from command line please ?
[18:11] <q_> ntz, apt-get install 'package'
[18:11] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ok,   but in the line you can read 'root' or your username ?
[18:12] <Shady> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14141441/
[18:13] <Rubiksmomo> -rw------- 1 rubiksmomo rubiksmomo
[18:13] <ntz> oh my .. I wanted open software centre from cli
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> c_korn  14.04 here, chroot /home is owned by root, ok
[18:14] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ok,   we can purge nvidia and try again with Additiona Driver or try to configure X with sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:14] <c_korn> MonkeyDust: that is ok, but /home/korn is also owned by root
[18:14] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, maybe is better to purge it, and start over
[18:15] <Rubiksmomo> It made a new config file
[18:16] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, you ran sudo nvidia-xconfig  ?
[18:17] <ioria> Shady, are you  using dhcp or you set a static connection ?
[18:17] <Rubiksmomo> Yeah. It couldn't find/open config file and made a new one.
[18:17] <Minelli> 	Good afternoon, someone has .rdd to generate graphs for DNS Unbound?
[18:17] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ok.... you'll need to reboot , but maybe it won't work ....
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> c_korn  ok, it's owned by my uer here, but i don't remember if i set that manually or not
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> user*
[18:18] <Shady> ioria, I don't know.
[18:18] <Rubiksmomo> Tried this before. I'll try again
[18:18] <ioria> Shady, ifconfig
[18:19] <Rubiksmomo> Same low res login screen. Comes back when I login.
[18:20] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, and you can't login via gui ?
[18:20] <c_korn> MonkeyDust: this is my configuration http://sprunge.us/ZdYZ http://sprunge.us/jIFJ should I better mount /home/korn to some empty directory?
[18:20] <Rubiksmomo> No. It throws a distorted image for a sec and returns to login screen.
[18:21] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ok ... sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[18:22] <Shady> ioria, can't find dhcp
[18:22] <ioria> Shady, just paste   ifconfig | pastebinit
[18:23] <Rubiksmomo> And reboot?
[18:23] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, no,    sudo apt-get purge nvidia*     (note the *)
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> c_korn  i'm not familiar with such config files
[18:25] <Rubiksmomo> 7 packages removed again
[18:25] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, when it's done, reboot
[18:26] <Shady> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14141546/
[18:27] <ioria> Shady, iwconfig | pastebinit
[18:28] <regedit> anyone please? How can I get rid of Windows and expand the Kubuntu OS to the entire drive? my system has UEFI with dual boot to Windows and Kubuntu. Here is my lsblk and fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14138686/ kparted: http://i.snag.gy/pvBeO.jpg
[18:29] <Rubiksmomo> Managed to login this time. Thanks. Resolution is low.
[18:29] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, yeah... go in dash and type Additional
[18:29] <Shady> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14141594/
[18:30] <Rubiksmomo> Using x.org x driver
[18:31] <Rubiksmomo> Choose 352.63 proprietary tested?
[18:31] <AndChat607476> ioria>> my laptop is throwing this error http://b.1339.cf/aqmjzyr.jpg
[18:31] <aotea> If I cannot get into tty, how else can I get into a terminal when booting to a black screen?
[18:32] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, can you use pastebinit now ?
[18:32] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: did you boot from a live USB yet?
[18:32] <Rubiksmomo_> yeah
[18:33] <AndChat607476> I don't have live DVD or a USB but I do get the Ubuntu advance options and stuff
[18:33] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit
[18:34] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14141654/
[18:34] <ioria> Shady, maybe channel issue , or router issue .... try to set up a static connection in network manager and choose 8.8.8.8 as dns
[18:34] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: ok, if you can get to GRUB then highlight your ubuntu partition and press 'e'
[18:34] <AndChat607476> Okay
[18:35] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, is all you got ?
[18:35] <AndChat607476> Done.
[18:35] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: yeah, 2 lines
[18:35] <AndChat607476> I get setparams 'ubuntu'
[18:35] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: ok, one sec I'm double checking here
[18:35] <AndChat607476> Record fail load_video
[18:35] <AndChat607476> Okay
[18:35] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, try with 352 ......
[18:36] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: do you see a line there that has "quiet splash" in it?
[18:36] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: OK, I'll select it in the dialog
[18:36] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, with the Gui, i mean and reboot
[18:36] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ok
[18:36] <Rubiksmomo_> OK, thanks
[18:36] <AndChat607476> Yes
[18:36] <AndChat607476> I do.
[18:36] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, no problem
[18:36] <cristian_c> ioria: I've checked /etc/rsyslog.conf
[18:37] <ioria> cristian_c, still nothin ? syslog empty ?
[18:37] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: ok, right after "quiet spash", enter "acpi=off". so it reads "quiet splash acpi=off"
[18:37] <cristian_c> ioria: no clues, but I've tried to delete syslog
[18:37] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: then reboot and try to to boot again.
[18:37] <cristian_c> ioria: no,\ syslog was not updated
[18:38] <cristian_c> ioria: I've tried to delete dmesg and syskog
[18:38] <Shady> ioria, it's fine now, thank you so much for your time and help
[18:38] <AndChat607476> After o entered acpi=off, there is $vt_handoff following it. Is it correct?
[18:38] <ioria> Shady, glad to hear that... have fun :þ
[18:38] <cristian_c> ioria: then , I've restarted the sydtem, and syslog has been re-genrerated
[18:39] <ioria> cristian_c, yes, but empty ?
[18:39] <cristian_c> ioria: the new regeenerated syslog is also updaged, so about that. solved issue
[18:39] <cristian_c> ioria: no, it's updated
[18:39] <veronicab> Hello, I am desperate already. Using Ubuntu 12.04, well since 4 days I can't use it. Due the last update I lost Grub2. I used Boot-repair but had not worked.  I used it several times. Today I re-installed Ubuntu 12.04, hoping that it will fix the problem, but no. So I run again Boot-Repair. The information is: Boot repaired with success but when I re-start I get black screen. I can't understand this. If I re-installed. Please,  ca
[18:39] <ioria> cristian_c,  good job
[18:40] <nexace> my /var/log/syslog/ is chown'd by syslog:syslog. I've added myself to the syslog group and the permissions for group is +r. Why am I getting permission denied when i try to cd /var/log/syslog?
[18:40] <cristian_c> ioria: unfortunately, dmesg has not been re-created too
[18:40] <cristian_c> ioria: so, now there are no dmesg in /var/log :(
[18:41] <ioria> cristian_c,  ls -l /var/log
[18:41] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: Looking better, back to 4k resolution
[18:42] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, good... test it with something heavy .... a game , an hd movie
[18:42] <cristian_c> ioria: I can try, but could it be useful and why?
[18:42] <Rubiksmomo_> Yeah, just launch Ryzom game
[18:42] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, ^_^
[18:42] <ioria> cristian_c,  to check the permissions
[18:43] <cristian_c> ioria: ok but do you mean directory permissions?
[18:43] <cristian_c> ioria: btw. I try to type that command
[18:43] <cristian_c> :)
[18:44] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: I just booted it. Ubuntu logo splashed and then blank.
[18:44] <ioria> cristian_c,  /var/log contains folders and files ....
[18:45] <ioria> cristian_c, maybe paste it,  if you want
[18:45] <cristian_c> ioria: ok
[18:46] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: Nope. I rebooted it and it looks the same
[18:46] <Rubiksmomo_> ioria: OK, Ryzom seems to run relatively smoothly as usual. Thank you so much! Wasn't that hard afterall, but all those conflicting advices in the web got me really confused.
[18:47] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: ok, well to do anything else you will need a live CD or USB.
[18:47] <Platypus2k> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 desktop on a laptop, but can not get drivers to work. Additional Drivers find my Broadcom BCM43142 chip and says it is using it, but that the device is not working. I have updated upraded and rebooted with wired net.
[18:47] <ioria> Rubiksmomo, happy for you.  you're welcome
[18:47] <aotea> So, I kept booting to a black screen, finally managed to find how to get into Grub and found I had the options to either boot into Ubuntu Linux 4.2.0-22-generic or 4.2.0-16-generic, apparently the latter one works, what gives? And why do I have these two options?
[18:47] <Rubiksmomo_> =) \o/
[18:47] <debug0x1> Platypus2k: I would recommend downgrading to 14.04
[18:48] <debug0x1> or using a live disc to confirm working drivers.
[18:48] <veronicab> quit
[18:48] <nicomachus> aotea: those are two different kernels. sometimes a newer kernel doesn't agree with hardware.
[18:48] <debug0x1> veronicab: forgot the "/" ?
[18:48] <veronicab> ?
[18:49] <Platypus2k> dvd rom is jammed on it. and no USB drives handy. can I get 14.04 from the net?
[18:49] <veronicab> quit /
[18:49] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: you will need a USB or DVD to install it
[18:49] <veronicab> well
[18:49] <nicomachus> veronicab: /quit
[18:49] <veronicab> ah, thanks
[18:50] <Platypus2k> ok, thanks for the info
[18:50] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: okay. I'll find a live DVD some how.
[18:50] <debug0x1> heh
[18:50] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: but you may not need to. what's the driver issue?
[18:50] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: Thanks a lot for your help, man!
[18:51] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: is this a wifi driver?
[18:51] <Platypus2k> yes
[18:51] <aotea> nicomachus: how can I see whether I just added the 'newer' kernel, I guess I need to set the older kernel then as default boot in Grub?
[18:51] <nicomachus> aotea: yes, or you can try booting the newer kernel with nomodeset
[18:51] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | aotea
[18:52] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[18:52] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: BTW, all I want is the data on my hard drive to be safe. Is there anyway we can detach the hard disk apart and read the files using a hard disk BAY?
[18:53] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: yes, so long as you have another system that can read them.
[18:54] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: there appears to be a simple fix, but you just need a live USB/CD to boot into to do it.
[18:54] <Platypus2k> paste.ubuntu.com/14141858/
[18:55] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: I just borrowed a Linux mint live DVD from muh friend. But, it's taking longer time to boot than usual.
[18:55] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: ' sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source '
[18:56] <debug0x1> AndChat607476: You might want to try a live disc boot from USB.
[18:56] <nicomachus> debug0x1: it really doesn't matter all that much, as long as it'll boot.
[18:57] <AndChat607476> debug0x1: no use. It returns back to the Ubuntu logo.
[18:57] <debug0x1> What version?
[18:58] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: when you boot, hit "shift" or "esc" from the POST screen so you can tell your BIOS to boot from CD
[18:58] <Platypus2k> nicomachus: it worked, many thanks! :D
[18:58] <nicomachus> Platypus2k: \o/ yay
[18:59] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: hard press or press multiple times?
[19:00] <nicomachus> AndChat607476: I usually just keep hitting the key until it works... but the key may be different for your machine. I will (briefly) say. may take a try or two.
[19:00] <nicomachus> s/I will/it will/
[19:01] <Kamiccolo> anyone familiar with repackaging proprietary binary debs would like to comment on what's the common way of dealing with two issues:
[19:02] <Kamiccolo> 1) Default install target - /opt/* 2) Included ancient libraries of libudev, etc.?
[19:02] <AndChat607476> nicomachus: maaan! My laptop is 5 years old. I replaced my DVD case 6 months back. I think it is fucked up by now, since the warranty period is 3 months. I'll try USB boot.
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> AndChat607476  avoid the f word
[19:04] <AndChat607476> MonkeyDust: Cool. Will do.
[19:05] <aotea> nicomachus: it worked! Thanks a lot.
[19:05] <nicomachus> aotea: \o/
[19:08] <aotea> Not sure I did it all entirely correct seeing my resolutoin is now 800x600 and no longer 1920x1080, so guess something new to try figure out :p
[19:11] <nicomachus> aotea: what's your graphics setup?
[19:12] <aotea> nicomachus: nvidia gt 555m
[19:12] <nicomachus> aotea: and which driver? the nouveau or one of the proprietary options?
[19:13] <aotea> Think proprietary, not sure, how do I check? Installed them using pre-installed program on Kubuntu
[19:14] <nicomachus> aotea: system settings --> software & updates --> addtional drivers
[19:14] <akisam> can I get a controller to work on steam games with playonlinux
[19:14] <akisam> ?
[19:14] <nicomachus> akisam: yes. check with the folks in #playonlinux on how to get it set up properly, it can be tricky.
[19:15] <Geometer> what advantages that Ubuntu has over Windows?
[19:15] <genii> Freedom
[19:15] <nicomachus> Geometer: TONS. ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and they'll be happy to tell you.
[19:15] <akisam> nicomachus: thanks
[19:17] <aotea> nicomachus: "Nvidia binary drivers - version 352.63 from nvidia-352" so I guess no, not using the nouveau from X.org
[19:18] <polyvisual> Hi, apport-bug is logging a bug to launchpad for me. The bug gets logged OK, but 5 minutes later it gets closed as a useful symbolic stack trace can't be generated.
[19:18] <nicomachus> aotea: ok, you may try using the nouveau or the 346 if it's listed... that may resolve the issue.
[19:19] <polyvisual> The message suggests that two packages are missing debug symbols; libevdev2 & nvidia-352
[19:20] <polyvisual> how do I install the debug symbols for those two packages?
[19:22] <curlyears> greetings.   got my files backedup to USB, finally
[19:23] <curlyears> so can sdomeone tell me where the m,ail spool file lives?
[19:23] <Pici> curlyears: /var/spool/mail/
[19:23] <cristian_c> !paste
[19:24] <curlyears> w9qbj:  are you a ham?
[19:24] <cristian_c> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[19:25] <curlyears> thanks, Pici
[19:26] <w9qbj> curlyears, yes
[19:27] <curlyears> dagnab it, where does Thunderbird store saved mail?
[19:30] <w9qbj> curlyears,  mail is stored in /home/your-user-name/.thunderird/some number.default/Mail
[19:31] <Bendr> Hello
[19:31] <w9qbj> curlyears,  I should have said  directorys under instad of "in"
[19:31] <curlyears> thanks, w9qbj.  in that case it is alread y bCKED UP.   *GRIN*
[19:32] <Bendr> is there a way to fix the problem of Arabic pdfs on Ubuntu?
[19:32] <w9qbj> ! google-hangout
[19:32] <nicomachus> Bendr: what is "the problem"?
[19:32] <Kamiccolo> Bendr, missing fonts? Not sure what problem are You reffering to.
[19:33] <w9qbj> Where can I find google-hangouts help
[19:33] <Bendr> yes, the letters are broken and everything is messy
[19:34] <nicomachus> Bendr: https://askubuntu.com/questions/131738/how-to-show-arabic-properly-in-pdf-files
[19:34] <Bendr> nicomachus, i found nothing useful there
[19:34] <Bendr> nicomachus, let me show what's going on
[19:36] <Bendr> nicomachus, can you see this http://imgur.com/4jvcwn6 ?
[19:36] <Kamiccolo> If You're creating PDF, why not just freaking embed those fonts?
[19:37] <nicomachus> Bendr: I dont't speak arabic, so have no idea what that should look like. However, it does look like a font issue.
[19:37] <Bendr> creating pdf? no
[19:37] <stephanedemotte>  /nicklist fifo
[19:37] <Kamiccolo> Is it created with MS Office or something? o_0
[19:37] <Bendr> nicomachus, but everyone would agree that the those letters are of no language
[19:38] <Kamiccolo> also, have You tried different viewers like... evince? Which Okular version is that, anyway?
[19:38] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, yes it might be
[19:38] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, all of them give the same output
[19:38] <aotea> nicomachus: ok, can't seem to get the resolution working with either of the drivers, the 346 weren't available but the 340 nvidia one was. Is there an important step I'm missing seeing currently I've only changed drivers and rebooted.
[19:39] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, latest Okular
[19:39] <nicomachus> aotea: you may just need to try to manually set resolution with xrandr
[19:40] <Kamiccolo> Bendr, one of the way  checking and fixing missing fonts issue: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10277418/the-pdf-viewer-evince-on-linux-can-not-display-some-math-symbols-correctly
[19:41] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, some fonts are required to open this file :/
[19:42] <RandomNoob> hello guys is this default theme for kyilin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDA_f2y_WE4
[19:42] <RandomNoob> and can i install it on regular ubuntu ?
[19:43] <Bendr> Kamiccolo, anyway, if you can see that IT on the bottom it is ibus i was trying to create input-method switcher i used <Control>Shift but it doesn't seem to work, have you any idea?
[19:43] <sazawal_> I am having problems with connecting my bluetooth speakers to Ubuntu 14.10. It used to auto connect before when I switched it on. The manual says that it goes into pairing mode automatically, which it did, and it is paired with my computer. But I cannot enable it. Help!
[19:43] <OerHeks> RandomNoob, install ubuntukylin-wallpapers :-)
[19:44] <OerHeks> there are more packages ...
[19:44] <OerHeks> !find ubuntukylin-wallpapers
[19:44] <RandomNoob> OerHeks: i need all theme. found this link http://installion.co.uk/ubuntu/trusty/universe/u/ubuntukylin-theme/install/index.html i want the border colors and the look.
[19:45] <msev-> https://github.com/mrgilving/arduinoGPSNavigator/blob/master/images/capitanskiy84x48.bmp can someone analyze this picture and tell me what i need to set to get such a format out (how much bits it is and stuff) please
[19:45] <RandomNoob> !find ubuntukylin-theme
[19:45] <OerHeks> sure, you can..
[19:45] <nicomachus> aotea: what's the output of 'xrandr --current'?
[19:45] <msev-> in gimp that is
[19:45] <aotea> Though, if I get the correct resolution and no issues running with an older kernel, is it worth the work getting it working on the newer kernel? Why not just set grub to boot the older one by default?
[19:46] <OerHeks> 64x48.bmp ..
[19:46] <OerHeks> ow wait, 84x48 :-D
[19:47] <aotea> nicomachus: give me some moments, just installed the newest proprietary drivers and booted to older kernel just to see it still worked so I could watch anything later in good resolution :p
[19:47] <Guest93630> здарова
[19:47] <msev-> yeah but gimp allows only xcf
[19:47] <nicomachus> !ru | Guest93630
[19:47] <RandomNoob> Guest93630: privet
[19:47] <Guest93630> дайте телеграмм
[19:47] <Guest93630> двинеутся
[19:47] <msev-> so i dont know how to get bmp out of it
[19:47] <nicomachus> msev-: File --> Export As... and then select .bmp
[19:48] <msev-> holy shit i missed that
[19:48] <msev-> i'm stupid
[19:48] <nicomachus> language...
[19:49] <msev-> nicomachus, thanks
[19:49] <nullkuhl>  i have been trying to understand what this script does but failing , can any one help ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14143394/
[19:49] <msev-> yeah sorry for faul language but I dunno how i missed that :D
[19:50] <speaker1234> hi, my t430 running 14.04 started not responding to gui inputs.  I can log in via ssh, or move the mouse but the gui is not responding to mouse clicks or keyboard input.  idears on where I hsould look?
[19:53] <sazawal_> I am having problems with connecting my bluetooth speakers to Ubuntu 14.10. It used to auto connect before when I switched it on. The manual says that it goes into pairing mode automatically, which it did, and it is paired with my computer. But I cannot enable it. Help!
[19:55] <aotea> nicomachus: results from xrandr http://termbin.com/3g4u
[19:55] <nicomachus> aotea: yea... that's not right at all. :)
[19:56] <mvx> hello
[19:57] <mvx> hello my friends
[19:57] <aotea> mvx: hi
[20:02] <nicomachus> aotea: let's see if it'll let us manually set... try ' xrandr --output LVDS0 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60 '. Keep in mind LVDS0 may be different on yours, LVDS0 is assuming laptop screen.
[20:02] <nick-8998> How do you smart boot
[20:04] <nick-8998> How do you smart boot
[20:08] <aotea> nicomachus: can't seem to figure the name for my screen though, tried LVDS(zero) and (letter o), DVI-(zero) and default :(
[20:09] <aotea> default gave me "Cannot find mode" the other couldn't find the output and returned "ignoring"
[20:09] <nicomachus> aotea: there's something we're missing here, because it should listed by the xrandr --current command, but isn't.
[20:10] <nicomachus> aotea: for reference, here's mine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14143584/
[20:14] <linuxmaru> good day all^
[20:14] <linuxmaru> :-D
[20:18] <curlyears> *wahhhh*
[20:19] <curlyears> I unplugged my 500GB drive, and installed 14.04.3 to my 3TB drive, no errors issued during install.  When I try to boot, it ives me some error about "improper ELF magic, and drops me into recovery mode.  What should I do?
[20:20] <curlyears> s/magic/magic"/
[20:20] <ioria> curlyears, are you 32 or 64 bit ?
[20:21] <curlyears> on a totally unrelated (and possibly off-topirc) issue, does anyone know what happened to EFnet?
[20:21] <rossi4life> ciao
[20:21] <rossi4life> !list
[20:21] <linuxmaru> okay
[20:23] <curlyears> does anyone know a good 3D CAD program for ubuntu that I can export .stl files from for my 3D printer?
[20:24] <curlyears> preferably one that is freeware
[20:25] <curlyears> 1804 users!!!!   that's a BIG channel!!!!!!!!!!
[20:25] <linuxmaru> yes!!
[20:25] <ioria> !info gmsh
[20:26] <curlyears> Other than this one, I don't think I've ever been in a channel with anywhere near this many user, and I have been IRCing since 1984.
[20:27] <curlyears> thanks, loria
[20:27] <ioria> !info freecad
[20:27] <curlyears> again, thanks
[20:28] <ioria> curlyears, you're welcome
[20:28] <curlyears> the mesh generator I also need
[20:28] <cristian_c> ioria: I've pasred the output, but I don't know exactly what I have to do
[20:28] <ioria> curlyears, for your first issue see this , maybe http://sanketrjain.com/error-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic/
[20:29] <ioria> cristian_c, can you paste it again , please  ?
[20:29] <cristian_c> yeah, sure
[20:29] <curlyears> Resource Limit Exceeded #1  )-:  thanks for the linnkk
[20:29] <curlyears> oh, it;s ioria, not loria.  sorry
[20:30] <curlyears> poor eyesight
[20:30] <ioria> curlyears, that's ok
[20:30] <cristian_c> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[20:31] <curlyears> be back shortly, I hope
[20:32] <ioria> cristian_c, that's terrible ... where is dmesg ?
[20:32] <cristian_c> ioria: I said before, dmesg doesn't exist
[20:33] <ioria> cristian_c, and kern ?
[20:33] <ioria> cristian_c, no, ok
[20:33] <cristian_c> there is kern
[20:35]  * H3x1Nj3Ct :P
[20:36] <ioria> cristian_c,  ls -l /bin/dmesg
[20:37] <cristian_c> ok
[20:39] <cristian_c> ioria: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52352 ago  5 03:25 /bin/dmesg
[20:40] <ioria> cristian_c,  and if you run   cat /var/log/dmesg | less     ?
[20:40] <Pici> 50
[20:42] <cristian_c> ioria: file or directory not found
[20:42] <ioria> cristian_c,  ps -A | grep rsyslog
[20:44] <cristian_c> ioria:  621 ?        00:00:00 rsyslogd
[20:45] <ioria> cristian_c,  have you done something weird , lately ?
[20:46] <cristian_c> ioria: yesterday, I saidnI installed fglrx drivers from additional drivers window
[20:46] <TJ-> ioria: with some releases and the journald changeover there was no /var/log/dmesg; I think 15.04 was the one I noticed with that. It's back with 15.10 though.
[20:46] <TJ-> cristian_c: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[20:47] <ioria> TJ-  his /var/log   http://paste.ubuntu.com/14142715/
[20:47] <cristian_c> ioria: then, during reboot, system crashed. After I restored radeon open drivers, dmes and syslog were missing yet
[20:47] <TJ-> ioria: right, I looked; it looks like a typical 15.04 system using systemd-journald
[20:47] <ioria> cristian_c,  lsb_release -a
[20:48] <ioria> cristian_c,  you can try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[20:48] <ioria> TJ-   i didn't know that. tx
[20:49] <aotea> Is bumblebee no longer used and replaced with nvidia-prime for linux?
[20:49] <TJ-> ioria: yes, it caught me out a few times until I dug deeper
[20:49] <TJ-> aotea: correct
[20:49] <ioria> ^_°
[20:50] <cristian_c> ioria: as told many times yesterday, I've already purged fglrx
[20:50] <ioria> cristian_c,  how ? command line ?
[20:50] <cristian_c> TJ-: server connection not
[20:50] <ioria> cristian_c,  lsb_release -a
[20:51] <cristian_c> errno socket error timed out
[20:52] <guest2134> curious do all current phone have hardware that support the cdma and gsm based providers? Or are they still spliting phones that can uses only one provider
[20:52] <guest2134> not provider but cellphone technolgy gsm or cdma variants?
[20:53] <cristian_c> paste.ubuntu.com seems unreachable
[20:53] <TJ-> cristian_c: ahhh, yes, its been having a few issues lately
[20:54] <TJ-> cristian_c: typical it happens when we most want it
[20:54] <ioria> cristian_c,   lsb_release -a | grep Codename
[20:54] <cristian_c> ioria: http://pastebin.com/2FLYaRLd
[20:55] <j3rzu> hi all
[20:55] <wafflejock> hello j3rzu
[20:55] <cristian_c> TJ-: I can paste dmesg output in pastebin.com
[20:56] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1450588
[20:56] <cristian_c> mmmm
[20:56] <ioria> won't fix ?  right nearly EOL
[20:57] <ioria> cristian_c,   wily, wily ....
[20:57] <cristian_c> uhm
[20:57] <mJimmer> Hello  there I am making a lib that exposes Qt/Qml to zlib and was wondering if someone can be so kind as to look and see where it is (lz.so) is installed via i386
[20:58] <mJimmer> maybe /usr/lib/x86_386/   not sure how that works via Ubuntu
[20:58] <cristian_c> ioria: I understand
[20:58] <cristian_c> :)
[20:58] <mJimmer> I know that on my 64 bit machine it is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[20:59] <ioria> cristian_c,   oh, well... in any case you'll have to upgrade .... :þ
[21:00] <Pwnna> does anyone here know how to check which DNS server dnsmasq using for a query when you're over a VPN?
[21:00] <Pwnna> i'm fairly certain that I'm using the ISP's DNS, but I need to make sure.
[21:00] <TJ-> Pwnna: you can check if NetworkManager told dnsmasq new nameservers by looking in /var/log/syslog
[21:01] <Pwnna> TJ-: before and after i connect? I'll give it a shot
[21:01] <mJimmer> NVM looks like it goes to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[21:01] <Pwnna> does anyone know how to force dnsmasq to only use the VPN DNS? I thought I did this via push dhcp-option dns on the server but evidently not?
[21:02] <wafflejock> mJimmer: you know what package contains the file? http://packages.ubuntu.com/  can check the file listings there if you can find the package that has it
[21:02] <TJ-> Pwnna: "grep 'dnsmasq.& using nameserver' /var/log/syslog "
[21:03] <TJ-> Pwnna: typo, * not &
[21:03] <Pwnna> TJ-: it looks like it is using both (https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8855113 -- 208 is pushed by VPN)
[21:03] <Pwnna> and the 10.0.0.1 is local
[21:03] <tgm4883> wafflejock: you can also check what packages contain a file on that site
[21:04] <Pwnna> TJ-: so if it using both... is there any way to show a particular query?
[21:04] <wafflejock> tgm4883: ah never scrolled down :) thanks for the tip
[21:04] <mJimmer> wafflejock:  thanks it is just so make can find libzlib maybe pckconfig would be even better to use not sure
[21:04] <TJ-> Pwnna: if NM is managing the connection I think there's an option to replace which can be set in the connection config, but I believe it has to be manually added to the text file with the config in.
[21:04] <Pwnna> TJ-: like the openvpn client conf  file?
[21:04] <Pwnna> man this has been a huge security lapse...
[21:04] <tgm4883> IIRC there is an openvpn option to force all traffic over the VPN
[21:05] <Pwnna> i thought so too
[21:05] <Pwnna> on my server config i have
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp"
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "dhcp-option DNS 208.67.222.222"
[21:05] <Pwnna> push "dhcp-option DNS 208.67.220.220"
[21:06] <TJ-> Pwnna: "man 5 NetworkManager.conf", see the 'dns' section, 'dnsmasq' sub-paragraph, and 'split-config' for VPNs; that should help figure it out
[21:06] <Pwnna> cool. thanks for the help. i'll give it a shot
[21:07] <TJ-> Pwnna: I think there's still some work to do figuring it out, but I've seen that scenario described on the NM-devel mailing list
[21:08] <Pwnna> the scenario where you only want to go over VPN?
[21:08] <Pwnna> TJ-: just to check if i understand this correctly.. "and then update resolv.conf to point to the local" < that means by default DNS goes to local?
[21:11] <TJ-> Pwnna: that means resolv.conf is configured to use the service provided by NM's private instance of dnsmasq - in orther words: "echo 'nameserver 127.0.1.1' /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf " (which is symlinked to  "ln -s ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:13] <ALFA> federica 14 anni
[21:13] <ALFA> i am italian girl
[21:13] <nicomachus> !ot | ALFA
[21:14] <ALFA> do you want me?
[21:15] <rww> no, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not OKCupid.
[21:17] <Jan\> you guys know trick to minimize system CPU usage ?
[21:18] <bekks> Jan\: No big deal. :)
[21:18] <Pwnna> lost connection for a minute..
[21:18] <Pwnna> TJ-: so that paragraph doesn't really say which DNS server dnsmasq forwards to for a particular query oter than that it sometimes may be vpn and sometimes may be local?
[21:18] <nolsen> How to check what DNS servers am I using?
[21:18] <Platypus2k> can't figure out ssh.. tried ssh user@domain.com:50022 and ssh user@domain.com -p 50022, but neither works.. I know the domain part and port forward works, because I can ssh from my tablet
[21:18] <nolsen> (My DNS servers are down and I need to know if its google or my ISP)
[21:19] <Pwnna> or is it like.. DNS goes to ISP/local first because it is faster and then go to VPN if local returns nothing and VPN DNS returns soomething
[21:19] <tgm4883> nolsen: click on the network icon then connection information
[21:19] <nolsen> tgm4883: I'm not on unity desktop.
[21:19] <nolsen> oh wait
[21:20] <tgm4883> nolsen: well that's kinda important info, however it should be the same in most if not all ubuntu distros
[21:21] <Pwnna> is there a way to turn this behaviour off and just force everything to VPN's DNS without resorting to commenting out dns=dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf?
[21:21] <Pwnna> because i don't manage other people's machines and this will create a security risk for them
[21:22] <tits123> hi
[21:23] <tits123> hi
[21:23] <TJ-> Pwnna: as I say I'm not sure but I know it is possible to configure it so that the VPN nameserver replaces any existing nameserver dnsmasq is using
[21:24] <TJ-> Pwnna: it's also possible to configure dnsmasq to only query specific nameservers based on the domain
[21:25] <tits123> hi nolsen
[21:25] <nolsen> Hi.
[21:25] <Pwnna> TJ-: i would need to require all to go through VPN...
[21:25] <tits123> hi Marvin
[21:25] <Marvin> Hi tits123
[21:26] <tits123> hi Helvekta
[21:26] <Pwnna> configuring client machines seems like a nightmare-ish. at this point the only thing i know is to uncomment that line.. maybe i'll try to look for dnsmasq settings as i see the run option for it has a line --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[21:26] <Helvekta> hiya
[21:26] <tits123> hi mauro_
[21:27] <tits123> hi Helvekta
[21:27] <tits123> hi farid__
[21:27] <mauro_> ciao
[21:28] <tits123> hi dalmatHG
[21:28] <nicomachus> let's keep the "hi's" to a minimum, guys...
[21:28] <tits123> hi mauro__
[21:28] <tits123> hi garrettr
[21:28] <nicomachus> tits123: stop.
[21:29] <genii> tits123: This is a channel for Ubuntu support. If you have some question regarding your Ubuntu you can ask it here. If you have no support issue, join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel instead.
[21:30] <tits123> hi skapunker
[21:30] <Pwnna> and it seems that EVEN IF i comment out that dns line... network manager is still pushing the local dns server to /etc/resolv.conf
[21:30] <Pwnna> which is problematic..
[21:31] <tits123> hi wonderworld
[21:31] <genii> tits123: For casual talk, use #ubuntu-offtopic and not this channel.
[21:31] <tits123> just being friendly
[21:32] <genii> tits123: This is not the channel to randomly say hello to everyone who enters. It just causes noise.
[21:32] <tits123> :-(((
[21:34] <tits123> sorry genii
[21:36] <[dk00]> Hi
[21:36] <tits123> hi [dk00]
[21:36] <tits123> hows it hangin
[21:37] <[dk00]> So if I use an Ubuntu server, can the host (AWS) see its contents or its data traffic?
[21:38] <[dk00]> Or the contents of its data traffic?
[21:38] <[dk00]> Or do I need to encrypt that somehow
[21:38] <[dk00]> I am super noob btw
[21:39] <k1l> the one who got physical access to that machine can always see what is on the machine, except when its encrypted.
[21:39] <[dk00]> It's a fresh ubu server install
[21:39] <rww> and even if it is encrypted on disk, if you're using it in memory, or if the key is in memory, you're still hosed.
[21:40] <rww> so yes, AWS would be able to see the contents of an AWS container.
[21:40] <[dk00]> Is it encrypted?
[21:40] <[dk00]> Can I prevent that rww
[21:40] <rww> and as you already got told in #freenode, "by using a third-party service, you HAVE to trust them. the solution to that is to not use a third-party service"
[21:40] <k1l> [dk00]: the question that you need to decide is: who can you trust not to look into your stuff.
[21:41] <k1l> if you dont trust AWS, then encrypt or use a different hoster or host yourself.
[21:42] <simon> Hi, I can't see my usb in file manager
[21:42] <simon> in dmesg I see "[   42.185119] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk", but I can't see it in file manager
[21:43] <simon> can someone help me with this pls?
[21:43] <snockerton> is it possible to use rsyslog to forward logs that were forwarded to it from another box?
[21:43] <snockerton> i.e. double forward?
[21:43] <[dk00]> So if I encrypt the server then aws can't see it?
[21:43] <[dk00]> The contents
[21:44] <rww> 21:39 < rww> and even if it is encrypted on disk, if you're using it in memory, or if the key is in memory, you're still hosed.
[21:44] <nicomachus> [dk00]: theoretically they still could pull the key out of memory, if they wanted to badly enough.
[21:45] <[dk00]> Can that be prevented?
[21:45] <frostschutz> [dk00], no.
[21:45] <k1l> [dk00]: since you seem to have super suspicious data, dont host them anywhere else than on your own machine.
[21:45] <nicomachus> yea, you could not use AWS or host yourself.
[21:45] <rww> for the nth time, if you're using a third-party system, you have to trust that party. if you don't like that, host it yourself
[21:46] <[dk00]> I'm trying to be a secure as possible while hosting it there
[21:46] <k1l> [dk00]: that doesnt match
[21:46] <[dk00]> Max security at aws
[21:46] <[dk00]> Sure it does
[21:46] <rww> what's your threat model here? who are you needing to protect this container against?
[21:46] <[dk00]> No one specifically
[21:47] <[dk00]> So u said I can encrypt the disk tho?
[21:47] <rww> yay masturbatory security :|
[21:47] <[dk00]> Which would make it harder
[21:47] <[dk00]> But not impossible
[21:47] <nicomachus> not touching this... way too sketchy.
[21:47] <[dk00]> Sketchy?
[21:47] <[dk00]> Lol
[21:48] <[dk00]> Thanks for judging
[21:48] <[dk00]> What else can be encrypted
[21:48] <[dk00]> Just the disk?
[21:48] <nicomachus> [dk00]: you're either unnecessarily concerned about AWS getting into your business, or you're concerned because the contents of the AWS server are something that AWS wouldn't want on their servers. so, yes. sketchy.
[21:49] <[dk00]> Or I just take security seriously
[21:49] <[dk00]> So stop being an ass
[21:49] <nicomachus> then don't host on a third party server.
[21:49] <[dk00]> Did I ask you where to hos
[21:49] <[dk00]> host
[21:49] <nicomachus> [dk00]: try ##security.
[21:49] <frostschutz> aws is super expensive anyhow
[21:50] <[dk00]> They have a free tier
[21:50] <k1l> [dk00]: as a user who is already annoying with asking the same question that was already answered 10 times i would not start to call other names.
[21:50] <rww> I'm noting that this seems to have been triggered by [dk00] realizing IRCCloud can read his IRC traffic. It's unlikely he's hosting anything important on AWS.
[21:50] <rww> or sketchy, for that matter
[21:50] <[dk00]> I am not
[21:50] <rww> It is, however, a complete waste of time, since Amazon doesn't care about his IRC traffic.
[21:51] <[dk00]> But disk encryption sounds like something that could be useful
[21:52] <TJ-> disk ecnryption only protects when the server is powered down
[21:52] <[dk00]> No such thing as memory encryption?
[21:53] <slifeet> Where would the key be kept if the memory was encrypted?
[21:53] <k1l> i dont know how usefull that is on a virtual server at all.
[21:54] <thegreen2undred> I'd love to talk about theoretically creating a ram disk that comsumes 99% of ram & setting it as swap space, theoretically then 99% of memory contents could maybe be encrypted
[21:54] <[dk00]> No idea
[21:54] <[dk00]> I am a noob
[21:54] <jefffan24> I have 2 hard drives, and one has hte bootloader the other ubuntu. The one with the bootloader is going bad.  Got a partition created on ubuntu drive and everything was going well until I ran boot-repair its now stuck at `Purge kernels then reinstall last kernel sdb1 (ins). this may require several minutes`.  Any ideas what to do to fix this
[21:54] <jefffan24> Its been stuck at that step for over an hour
[21:54] <thegreen2undred> but that would be extremely academic and not practically possible
[21:55] <thegreen2undred> the only benefit would be protection from someone hacking the path between cpu & ram anyway which would be easier to solve with an iron box
[21:55] <jefffan24> I've got a boot-info url if that would help anyone at all
[21:55] <Alukard> hello
[21:55] <thegreen2undred> and it would only be hackable at that level in fictional writing
[21:55] <Alukard> !list
[21:56] <Alukard> XD
[21:56] <thegreen2undred> jefffan24 you can grub-install to a new partition on a different drive, grub update on your existing location wouldnt help with the hardware failure
[21:56] <jefffan24> I'm running this from a live cd
[21:57] <jefffan24> forgot to mention that
[21:58] <jefffan24> thegreen2undred, if I run grub install on that partition, will that handle the MBR and making that drive bootable?
[21:58] <thegreen2undred> then grub-install is definitely going to be your go-to, do you have space on your good drive to make a boot partition?
[21:58] <[dk00]> Ok so how do I encrypt the disk?
[21:59] <jefffan24> yeah its already made
[21:59] <neredsenvy> Anyone know a fix for lightdm white screen problem. Tried rebooting lightdm to no success.
[21:59] <neredsenvy> Happens every time I use a second screen
[21:59] <jefffan24> shrunk sdb1 (took forever) then prepended a partition of 1GB
[21:59] <jefffan24> and made it ext4
[21:59] <thegreen2undred> MBR/gpt (partition table) is already in place if you have a partition on the drive, we wont be dealing with that unles you are working with an empty disk
[21:59] <jefffan24> its now sdb3
[22:00] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: Is the liveDVD the same release as theat of the installed 'buntu ? - then intall grub to sdb's MBR . reset bios to boot from that 3nd hard drive .
[22:00] <neredsenvy> This morning I installed gdm uninstalled it cuss it did not work correctly, reenabled lightdm it worked used 2nd monitor now it happened again.
[22:00] <thegreen2undred> i cant google it at the moment but it will be something to the effect of : grub-install /dev/sdb3
[22:00] <jefffan24> Bashing-om, they are both 14.04 I'm not sure about the minor versoin
[22:00] <jefffan24> and is it alright ot just stop the boot repair?
[22:00] <thegreen2undred> google that command and you should be able to find some helpful context
[22:01] <thegreen2undred> then you'll maybe want to run sudo grub-update (sorry if my commands are only loosley accurate) not on my own machine to verify
[22:01] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: That will be fine, next is how is sdb partitioned ? GPT does require a /boot partition .
[22:01] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: jefffan24 it is VERY unlikely you want to install grub to a partition with "grub-install /dev/sdb3" - that will not work
[22:02] <jefffan24> Bashing-om, sdb3 is 1GB its the first partition in the list, then sdb1 883GB, then sdb2 (extended) > sdb5 swap.
[22:02] <thegreen2undred> TJ- i'm a bit weak on my boot partition work, none else was responding so i offered google'able answers
[22:02] <jefffan24> thanks for your help thegreen2undred appreciate it :)
[22:03] <thegreen2undred> jefffan24, besides getting grub installed to that partition you can use gparted to enable the boot flag
[22:03] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: You make up that sdb1 partition ? .. best show us the partitioning ' pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[22:03] <TJ-> jefffan24: I think what you need is to ensure there's a file-system in /dev/sdb3, mount it to some mountpoint, then do something like "grub-install --boot-directory /path/to/mountpoint/of/sdb3 /dev/sdb "
[22:04] <jefffan24> TJ-, ext4
[22:04] <thegreen2undred> ha, so it will be more in the form of grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/OS /dev/sdb3
[22:05] <Bashing-om> jefffan24: TJ- wrote the book on booting . we follow his guidance .
[22:05] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: NO! forget /dev/sdb3 that is wrong, it should be /dev/sdb
[22:05] <thegreen2undred> thanks for the input
[22:06] <jefffan24> ok Bashing-om thanks, just for reference here is that `sudo parted -l` output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14148491
[22:06] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: the device passed to "grub-install" is where the MBR boot-strap code goes. "--boot-directory X" sets the location where grub-install copies its modules.
[22:06] <TJ-> jefffan24: I missed the earlier discussions; is the the disk partitioned with GPT, or MSDOS/MBR ?
[22:06] <thegreen2undred> TJ- awesome, that helps make sense of some things I was missing
[22:07] <jefffan24> partition table is msdos? I'm not sure exactly if that's what you are looking for
[22:07] <Bashing-om> TJ-: jefffan24 " Partition Table: msdos " . :)
[22:07] <[dk00]> So guys is there anything I do to scramble the memory?
[22:07] <TJ-> thegreen2undred: if you're interested https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[22:08] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, so, when 'grub-install' does its thing it needs somewhere to put its core.img, which is approx 1MB in size. Often that is in 'spare' sectors before the first partition, unless you've reserved a partition for it especially.
[22:09] <thegreen2undred> TJ- bookmarked and btw its beautiful
[22:09] <jefffan24> TJ-, reserved a partition for it specifically
[22:09] <TJ-> jefffan24: looking at your parted output
[22:11] <TJ-> jefffan24: It's not quite as you need it to slip GRUB boot in there; can we get some more detail with "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print )"
[22:12] <TJ-> jefffan24: grub-install needs to separate spaces: 1. for core.img (~1MB), and 2. for the grub modules (usually mounted at /boot/grub/)
[22:12] <jefffan24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14148781 <--- TJ- the command you told me to run
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, measurements are all in sectors (s) now; we can see the partitions start at 2048, and with the MBR in sector 0, that leaves plenty of 'spare' sectors in-between for GRUB to slip its core.img, so that's #1 solved.
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: so /dev/sdb3 can be used for GRUB's 'root' file-system.
[22:14] <TJ-> jefffan24: is /dev/sdb3 file-system currently mounted?
[22:15] <jefffan24> no but it can be
[22:15] <wligtenberg> I have just installed clamav on my server, but freshclam is failing to get the update
[22:16] <TJ-> jefffan24: just so i understand; Are you wanting to make /dev/sdb independently boot an OS installed in /dev/sdb1 ?
[22:16] <jpmh> is there something equivalent to boxtrapper that is available for ubuntu?
[22:16] <jefffan24> TJ-, yes
[22:17] <jefffan24> and sdb3 is now mounted
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: and you're currently using a Live ISO boot?
[22:17] <jefffan24> livecd
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: same thing :)
[22:17] <jefffan24> but yeah
[22:17] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, let's do this via a chroot (change root) to do it properly
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo mkdir /target"
[22:18] <SPF> hi, in order to make virtualbox work I have to do sudo chmod 666 /dev/sda*. This is only recently probably due updates ?
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /target"
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: "sudo umount /dev/sdb3"
[22:18] <jefffan24> TJ-, sdb1 was already mounted (I think from boot-repair) I didn't do it
[22:18] <jefffan24> should I unmount it first?
[22:18] <TJ-> jefffan24: umount it
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: we don't want to get confused. We want to end up with the root file-system of sdb1 at /target/
[22:19] <tittybot69> join #tf2
[22:19] <jefffan24> its saying sdb1 is busy
[22:19] <jefffan24> probably from the failed boot-repair
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: you have tools open in the mountpoint
[22:19] <TJ-> jefffan24: possible need to "cd /" or close a GUI file-browser?
[22:20] <jefffan24> only thing open is the terminal
[22:21] <TJ-> jefffan24: try "sudo umount --lazy /dev/sdb1"
[22:21] <jefffan24> unrecognized option --lazy
[22:21] <TJ-> jefffan24: which ubuntu release is that? "cat /etc/issue"
[22:22] <jefffan24> 14.04.3
[22:22] <TJ-> jefffan24: Ahh, then it doesn't have the long option; use "sudo umount -l /dev/sdb1"
[22:23] <jefffan24> that worked :)
[22:23] <TJ-> jefffan24: now "mount" may show that /dev/sdb1 is no longer mounted
[22:24] <jefffan24> ok sdb1 is now mounted at target
[22:24] <TJ-> jefffan24: Good, that's the one we want. if you do "ls -l" you see all the root-file-system directories like bin/, usr/ var/ etc/ ?
[22:24] <jefffan24> Yup
[22:25] <jefffan24> it also has boot and boot_bak with boot_bak created today, just incase that matter
[22:25] <jefffan24> s
[22:25] <TJ-> jefffan24: that's good, full steam ahead now. We'll mount the kernel file-systems first with
[22:26] <TJ-> jefffan24: "for N in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done "
[22:26] <TJ-> jefffan24: and now we'll enter into that system properly with "sudo chroot /target" - at this point you're 'root' in the 'broken' system
[22:27] <jefffan24> and I just type that for and do in the command line on one line correct?
[22:27] <TJ-> jefffan24: yes, type everything inside the double-quotes I use
[22:27] <TJ-> jefffan24: but not the double-quotes themselves
[22:28] <DirtyCajun> what is a great free monitoring tool for ubuntu server? I need to be able to see the info realtime preferrably on a webpage, i need processes cpu/mem load and network utilization
[22:29] <jefffan24> TJ-, so should I run chroot before or after the forcommand?
[22:29] <daftykins> that in itself is a big waste of resources
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: in the order I give you the commands :)
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: so, *before*
[22:29] <jefffan24> mount: mount point /target/dev/ptr does not exist
[22:29] <TJ-> jefffan24: sorry, *AFTER* !!!
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: you're confusing me now ... lets start again, ignore stuff you've already done!
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: "for N in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done " (it's pts not ptr - you have a typo)
[22:30] <jefffan24> thanks
[22:30] <jefffan24> totally missed that
[22:30] <TJ-> jefffan24: then, after that, "sudo chroot /target"
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: you should be able to copy-paste these commands if you're IRC-ing from the LiveCD
[22:31] <jefffan24> I'm not
[22:31] <jefffan24> I'm ircing from my laptop
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: ahhh, drat :)
[22:31] <jefffan24> but command ran cleanly with the typo fixed
[22:31] <TJ-> jefffan24: is that other PC connected to a network?
[22:31] <jefffan24> yup
[22:32] <TJ-> jefffan24: ok, that could be useful later. Do the 'chroot' and we'll check
[22:32] <jefffan24> did the chroot
[22:32] <TJ-> jefffan24: "ping -nc5 8.8.8.8" to check there's basic connectivity to the Internet
[22:32] <jefffan24> successful pings
[22:33] <TJ-> jefffan24: and now lets check name resolving: "ping -c5 google-public-dns-a.google.com"
[22:33] <TJ-> jefffan24: that's the same target but by name
[22:33] <jefffan24> looks good
[22:34] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, now lets try to update its package lists "apt-get update"
[22:35] <jefffan24> done and successful
[22:35] <TJ-> jefffan24: so, lets see if we can install a helper: "apt-get install pastebinit"
[22:35] <ohgodpleasehelp> Hello, does anyone have experience with SourceTree/Git? I wanted to back up my project by creating a repo for it, so I clicked 'Create New Repo', selected my files, clicked 'Commit', and now my entire project is back to its starting point. I went to Remote Branches and found my files under a branch under 'uncommitted changes'. I right clicked it and clicked 'reset current branch to this commit'. What do I do from this point?
[22:36] <jefffan24> TJ-, successfully install
[22:36] <simon235> Hi, when installing from usb, I don't see my ssd. I've followed this guide: http://superuser.com/questions/863073/ubuntu-14-04-doesnt-see-my-ssd-drive/863086#863086 , but I got this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'."
[22:36] <ohgodpleasehelp> This was also the only copy of the project I had from this point. 3 months work is now just sitting in this branch and I'm not able to access it in my files anymore
[22:36] <nicomachus> ohgodpleasehelp: try asking in #github
[22:36] <ohgodpleasehelp> Thanks
[22:36] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, let me see some diag info: "pastebinit <( cat /etc/fstab; dpkg -l 'linux*' )"
[22:37] <simon235> Hi, when installing from usb, I don't see my ssd. I've followed this guide: http://superuser.com/questions/863073/ubuntu-14-04-doesnt-see-my-ssd-drive/863086#863086 , but I got this error: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.". Then I've followed this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb/333011 , but still got the same error. Someone knows how to fix
[22:37] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14149842/
[22:38] <simon235> sorry for double posting, I've accidently click ENTER (new keyboard)
[22:38] <daftykins> simon235: sounds like a corrupt download or bad flash drive write
[22:38] <daftykins> simon235: does it work in another PC, your drive?
[22:38] <simon235> daftykins: do you mean my SSD Drive?
[22:38] <TJ-> jefffan24: "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sdb )"
[22:39] <daftykins> simon235: no the flash drive you booted from
[22:39] <simon235> daftykins: or USB?
[22:39] <daftykins> i'd say SSD for SSD
[22:39] <simon235> daftykins: yes, it works on other devices.
[22:39] <jefffan24> TJ-, "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[22:40] <TJ-> simon235: is the 'SSD' on an Intel caching controller? We've seen those before, and there's some complicated BIOS/firmware changes required to use that device as  a regular device
[22:40] <daftykins> simon235: are you attempting to dualboot beside an existing Windows? might be a normal vs. EFI booting situation there
[22:40] <TJ-> jefffan24: sorry, my fault. "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sdb* )"
[22:40] <simon235> daftykins: yes, I do
[22:40] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14149942/
[22:41] <simon235> TJ-: I don't know what is "Intel caching controller", so I don
[22:41] <simon235> so I don't know if this is true
[22:41] <TJ-> jefffan24: looking good so far; now let's mount those /etc/fstab entries with "mount -a"
[22:42] <ohgodpleasehelp> Is there anyone with Sourcetree experience who can help me? Noone is #github is answering and I'm asbolutely terrified my project is gone
[22:42] <TJ-> jefffan24: at this point "mount" should show that /dev/sdb3 is on /boot
[22:42] <jefffan24> TJ-, yup
[22:42] <simon235> daftykins: Do you have any idea how to solve this?
[22:43] <daftykins> !efi | simon235 have a read about EFI vs. legacy boot
[22:43] <TJ-> ohgodpleasehelp: I wasn't aware there was a Linux Sourcetree client
[22:44] <ohgodpleasehelp> @TJ- There isn't, I'm on Windows. I assume it's similar to any Git UI
[22:44] <daftykins> ohgodpleasehelp: why are you in an ubuntu channel to ask?
[22:44] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, good. Now let's install the kernel packages as a prerquisite for GRUB: "apt-get install linux-generic"
[22:44] <ohgodpleasehelp> daftykins The issue is more related to git than Sourcetree
[22:44] <TJ-> ohgodpleasehelp: you'd best ask Atlassian
[22:45] <daftykins> amusingly my mate used to be the OS X dev for that product ;)
[22:45] <daftykins> ohgodpleasehelp: my point is how wrong it is for an Ubuntu channel :D
[22:45] <jefffan24> TJ-, done
[22:45] <TJ-> jefffan24: good, now let's try for GRUB: "apt-get install grub-pc"
[22:46] <jefffan24> already at the newest version
[22:46] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, so "grub-install /dev/sdb" then, if all OK, "update-grub"
[22:46] <Guest15186> hello how do I enlarge the font on here ?
[22:47] <wafflejock> Guest15186: depends on your IRC client
[22:47] <jefffan24> TJ-, installing for i386-pc platform, is that normal for a 64bit install?
[22:47] <k1l> Guest15186: look into the settings of the client you are using
[22:47] <jefffan24> or does it even matter
[22:47] <genii> jefffan24: For GRUB thats normal
[22:47] <Guest15186> thank you
[22:47] <TJ-> jefffan24: yes, GRUB is 32-bit only
[22:48] <jefffan24> good to know
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: as in, for BIOS boots, it operates in 32-bit protected mode
[22:48] <jefffan24> ahh makes sense
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: for grub-efi it is 64-bit
[22:48] <jefffan24> update-grub finished successfully
[22:48] <TJ-> jefffan24: now let's check the config it generated: "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[22:49] <jefffan24> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14150195/
[22:50] <TJ-> jefffan24: did you want the Windows on sda to be in that GRUB boot menu on sdb ?
[22:50] <jefffan24> No that drive is getting pulled
[22:50] <jefffan24> Its the one that is going bad
[22:51] <Guest15186> that's better
[22:51] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, then do "echo 'GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true' >> /etc/default/grub" (make SURE to use >> not >  so it appends not overwrites)
[22:51] <TJ-> jefffan24: then redo "update-grub"
[22:52] <ohgodpleasehelp> I'll send anyone who can privately help me recover my files $15 in bitcoin if that helps
[22:52] <jefffan24> TJ-, done
[22:52] <TJ-> jefffan24: OK, in theory its ready to boot from now
[22:53] <jefffan24> TJ-, time to test then?
[22:53] <TJ-> jefffan24: remove external boto devices, set BIOS boot order so sdb is first, and test
[22:54] <MACscr> How can i troubleshoot this log entry?
[22:54] <MACscr> kernel: [517697.997278] type=1400 audit(1450824802.260:19803): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="lxc-container-default" pid=16698 comm="ps" requested_mask="trace" denied_mask="trace" peer="unconfined"
[22:54] <MACscr> I have no idea what container is even causing the issue
[22:54] <Guest15186> can I change my nick ?
[22:54] <TJ-> MACscr: check the pid
[22:54] <MACscr> TJ-: but its already gone
[22:54] <mint_> I'm running linux mint from a live usb and i find it's a little slow. Anyone know if it's because it's through a live usb that it's slow?
[22:54] <CubeIX> Guest15186: /nick
[22:55] <TJ-> MACscr: comm=ps suggests it was /bin/ps
[22:55] <k1l> !mint | mint_
[22:55] <simon> daftykins, do you know if I'll choose "enable CSM" it'll help somehow?
[22:55] <Guest15186> thank you
[22:55] <k1l> mint_: just use the mint channels that are made autojoin on your irc client.
[22:55] <mint_> thanks
[22:55] <MACscr> TJ-: yep, but i still have no idea why that would cause an apparmor issue or what container its from
[22:55] <daftykins> simon: you must boot and install ubuntu in the same mode as the Windows there already is
[22:56] <TJ-> MACscr: you ran 'ps' on the host as UID 0 ?
[22:56] <curlyears> k1l:  believe it or not, no joy.  )-:
[22:56] <MACscr> TJ-: huh? i am not doing anything manually to cause it. this issue is happening though a few dozen times an hour
[22:56] <curlyears> hi, TJ-
[22:57] <Guest15186> done
[22:57] <k1l> curlyears: set the sdb to be the firs in boot order in bios
[22:57] <k1l> *first
[22:57] <TJ-> MACscr: ok, so something else is running 'ps' from a script maybe? maybe you've installed some monitoring tooling?
[22:58] <curlyears> K1`l:   I beleive it is, but how do I contorl whish HDD the BIOS boots from?   the only choices I seem to had are hdd or other non-hdd devices
[22:58] <jefffan24> TJ-, grub came up and I am current logged into my existing ubuntu instance.
[22:58] <jefffan24> Thank you so much!
[22:58] <simon> daftykins, in the installation wizard, when I clicked "Next" I saw an confirmation about "efi mode" or "uefi mode" (I don't remember exactly). I clicked "Go Back" because I wanted to change something in the previous screen, and now I can't see this dialog anymore
[22:58] <simon> daftykins, not even after reboot
[22:58] <k1l> curlyears: look into the biod settings or see if there is a "what to boot from menu" when you press f10 or f12 or such (look into the handbook)
[22:59] <simon> daftykins, do you have an idea how to restore this dialog?
[22:59] <daftykins> simon: which install wizard? if you ran wubi.exe to install ubuntu from inside windows, we don't support that
[22:59] <Guest97245> that's better
[22:59] <curlyears> k1l:  that's what I'm telling you, there doesn't appear to be any control over WHICH hdd it boots from
[23:00] <k1l> curlyears: i doubt that.
[23:00] <simon> daftykins, the install wizard that comes when I choose "Install Ubuntu" in the boot menu
[23:00] <curlyears> k1l: alll it letsa me do is choose the boot order
[23:00] <MACscr> TJ-: i have like 12 containers, and every container does have check_mk and snmp running
[23:00] <daftykins> simon: ah, well the link i gave you should have explained the difference between booting your USB flash drive as EFI or not
[23:01] <MACscr> but i have no idea why their would be any issues running ps commands in a container
[23:01] <TJ-> jefffan24: great to hear, that was pretty easy :)
[23:01] <MACscr> they are all privileged containers as well
[23:01] <MACscr> whats the point of this audit trail if it doesnt give me a way to find out exactly what caused it?
[23:02] <MWM> Im going to move my intiallation to a new HDD but Im concerned that I may botch the process.  Surefire tutorial somewhere?  Ive heard to sue dd Im nearly certain I will botch that one
[23:02] <TJ-> MACscr: it'll be some tight apparmor profile obviously - looks pretty sensible not allowing 'trace' by default. Check the apparmor profiles themselves
[23:02] <simon> daftykins, from your link "- If the BIOS is set up to boot the CD in UEFI mode, then you will see the screen below:". This is what I see. But I still can't see the SSD.
[23:02] <daftykins> MWM: clonezilla
[23:02] <MACscr> grr, i dont know crap about apparmor
[23:03] <TJ-> MACscr: that audit message gives you everything you need to sort it
[23:03] <TJ-> MACscr: as it says, the profile blocking access is "lxc-container-default" - and you know it's DENYing "trace" too,
[23:03] <daftykins> simon: are you typing from that live session now? (boot to 'try' mode)
[23:03] <MWM> daftykins: is clonzilla idiotproof ?  alternatively can I use dd and move it to an existing drive in the system and then remove the old one ?  Will I still boot afterwords?
[23:04] <daftykins> is the new drive bigger?
[23:05] <MWM> daftykins: very much so.
[23:05] <simon> daftykins, right now I'm chatting from another PC. why?
[23:05] <curlyears> k1l:  I'll go try looking for that option, but I don't thinkn it's there
[23:05] <TJ-> MACscr: looking at the apparmor profiles the lxc seems to start with /etc/apparmor.d/lxc-containers >> /etc/apparmor.d/lxc/lxc-default
[23:05] <daftykins> simon: you can run some commands from the terminal to check what it sees
[23:05] <daftykins> MWM: come online from a live session then you can dd the two disks direct.
[23:06] <TJ-> right! back to my coding
[23:06] <MWM> daftykins:  then I can just pull the old disk and reboot? or will I ahve to change UUID in the fstab or something?
[23:06] <MWM> thanks BTW
[23:06] <daftykins> MWM: one step at a time.
[23:07] <daftykins> right now you've got a map showing you where the bridge is, lets walk up to it first ;)
[23:07] <simon235> daftykins: OK, now I'm typing from the live session
[23:08] <MACscr> TJ-: what does this part mean? peer="unconfined"
[23:08] <MACscr> i do have two lxc guests with "lxc.aa_profile = unconfined" in their lxc_name/config profiles
[23:08] <daftykins> simon235: in a terminal, run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:08] <MWM> not going to be making the swtich for a few days yet.  Im just making sure I dont botch the job right now.  Ill drop back in when Ive done the work in dd.  Thanks
[23:09] <simon235> daftykins: It says "Use netcat."
[23:10] <daftykins> simon235: alternatively then, "sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:11] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151078/
[23:12] <Platypus2k> can't figure out ssh.. tried ssh user@domain.com:50022, ssh user@domain.com -p 50022 and ssh -p 50022 user@domain.com, but neither works.. I know the domain part and port forward works, because I can ssh from my tablet
[23:12] <daftykins> simon235: mmm sure enough a 1TB storage disk only; what make + model system is this?
[23:13] <daftykins> Platypus2k: don't try and get it all at once, see if it gets through without specifying a user to start with
[23:13] <daftykins> also consider -vv on ssh to have more idea what it's trying
[23:13] <simon235> daftykins: it is asus g752. Is this what you mean?
[23:14] <daftykins> yep, lets see
[23:14] <Platypus2k> different usernames and nonstandard ports. thanks for verbose tip
[23:16] <simon235> daftykins: btw, do you know how to prevent the data from live sessions to be saved? I missed a dialog about efi/uefi when I first came into the installation wizard. Then anytime I restart I have my checkbox/radio buttons pre-chosen in the wizard
[23:16] <simon235> and it remembers I accidently clicked
[23:16] <daftykins> Platypus2k: i know but you don't need to get the user right to see the prompt comes up, if you're not getting that far - so try e.g. "ssh hostname -p 50022" and "ssh hostname:50022" with no user stuff
[23:16] <simon235> "cancel" on uefi/efi dialog
[23:16] <daftykins> simon235: live sessions don't save anything
[23:17] <daftykins> unless you made the drive 'persistent'
[23:17] <Platypus2k> it managed to resovle the ip from the domain name I gave it, still times out
[23:17] <simon235> daftykins: idk, maybe it saves on the USB or something, but I have the browser history from the previous session.
[23:17] <daftykins> simon235: can you share "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[23:18] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151287/
[23:18] <daftykins> yep your drive is persistent, you'd need to remake it
[23:18] <shadow2> huh
[23:19] <simon235> daftykins: what does it mean?
[23:20] <daftykins> it stores changes, so you'd need to wipe it and recreate
[23:20] <shadow2> have i manage to change my nick at last hehe
[23:20] <shadow2> wow
[23:21] <daftykins> simon235: it looks like that laptop comes with a 128GB SSD, if so i would not try and adjust the size of that - as 128 is barely enough for Windows on its' own
[23:22] <simon235> daftykins: What if I'll put Windows OS on 50 GB SSD, and windows data on HDD?
[23:23] <simon235> daftykins: (logging out, speak to "simon" instead")
[23:23] <curlyears> k1l:  as I thought.  I went through every menu in my BIOS, no option for choosing which drive to boot from
[23:23] <daftykins> simon: no, 128GB is barely enough for just Windows' install
[23:24] <curlyears> I could try disconnecting the othwer drive for n ow
[23:24] <k1l> curlyears: then see the handbook which key to press to get to the boot menu to choose
[23:24] <xcelq> daftykins:  if you do windows + linux 250gb
[23:24] <xcelq> for each
[23:24] <curlyears> ]'j1l:  the motherboad handbook?
[23:24] <k1l> curlyears: yes
[23:24] <curlyears> k1l
[23:25] <simon> daftykins, why windows need so much space for OS only without data?
[23:26] <daftykins> xcelq: it's a 128GB SSD beside a 1TB HDD, i don't see what you mean :)
[23:26] <curlyears> OK, that's on a CD, so off I go again.  this is getting quite tedious, it takes a considerable to to boot from the Live CD
[23:26] <daftykins> simon: because in time it'll grow. i would not attempt to resize it, in fact i think ubuntu is badly suited to put on that system at all
[23:26] <curlyears> k1l:  I aM QUITE CERTAIN YOU ARE FINDING THIS TEDIOUS AS WLL
[23:26] <curlyears> well
[23:26] <k1l> curlyears: its not rocket science. you could press f10 or f12 or esc or such to test which key it is
[23:27] <curlyears> soww for all caps
[23:27] <curlyears> OK
[23:27] <daftykins> simon: i think the SSD in that laptop is too new for ubuntu to make use of, anyway
[23:27] <simon> daftykins, why?
[23:28] <daftykins> simon: because it's likely M.2 PCI-Express and it isn't supported well yet, in your dmesg i can only see the DVD and 1TB HDD get detected
[23:28] <daftykins> one moment let me check with someone
[23:29] <simon> I aim to use mostly Ubuntu, and barely use windows, so I guess it won't grow rapidly
[23:29] <simon> daftykins, ^^
[23:29] <daftykins> simon: then it's too new for Linux i'm afraid
[23:31] <daftykins> simon: can you run "lspci -nnk | pastebinit" from the live session?
[23:35] <shadow2> now that i got established in here for the first time is it normal to ask where ppl are from etc ?
[23:35] <simon235> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14151998/
[23:36] <daftykins> shadow2: no, support only in here - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[23:36] <bazhang> shadow2, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[23:37] <shadow2> I've not been here before
[23:37] <TJ-> daftykins: simon235 I don't see any PCI-connected storage there, nothing reporting on the PCIe bus
[23:37] <Bashing-om> shadow2: Yhis channle is ubuntu support only. palaver in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:38] <daftykins> TJ-: could it be hiding from that persistent wily flash drive? i'm convinced it has one, as such a gaming spec laptop wouldn't come with just the 1TB mechanical
[23:39] <simon235> daftykins: TJ- , I'm sure I have the SSD. I have Windows installed on it.
[23:39] <almark> maybe a lshw will show it ...
[23:39] <TJ-> daftykins: simon235 anything connected on PCI/e will show up even if no drivers are available.
[23:40] <daftykins> simon235: can you go back to Windows and run crystaldiskinfo and screenshot to imgur.com of the SSD?
[23:40] <TJ-> simon235: daftykins as I said earlier; we've seen similar systems where the SSD is actually on a special Intel caching controller and is not seen directly by the OS
[23:41] <simon235> TJ-: daftykins yes sure
[23:41] <simon235> in a min
[23:41] <daftykins> might be a newer arm of the chipset RAID tech that i've not seen yet if so
[23:43] <TJ-> simon235: daftykins asus web-site is terrible; all the Support links (drivers, etc) are broken
[23:44] <daftykins> their US one seemed down for me a moment ago, kept hiding things
[23:44] <simon235_> TJ-: What did you ask to printscreen?
[23:44] <TJ-> simon235_: I think daftykins  did that
[23:46] <daftykins> simon235: yeah it was me, download crystaldiskinfo
[23:46] <daftykins> http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/G752VT/cdmc.png
[23:46] <daftykins> pretty certain it's a freestanding non-obfuscated drive, how odd
[23:50] <simon235_> daftykins: https://imgur.com/1a15G6t
[23:50] <simon235_> daftykins: I don't think this is the right screen
[23:51] <daftykins> wow so even crystaldiskinfo can't see it!
[23:51] <zwischenzug> hello.  i've never touched the kernel or kernel configs before, and am a bit over my head.  i want to enable "CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM" and "CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP_ENABLED".  i've added "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1" to `etc/default/grub`, updated grub, and rebooted.  i see "cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1" in /proc/cmdline, but CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM is still not enabled, according to /boot/config-3.1
[23:51] <zwischenzug> 3.0-24-generic
[23:51] <daftykins> simon235_: and if you run "diskmgmt.msc" ? do you see C:? or even just in the 'This PC' view? (alt+print-screen captures just the active window)
[23:51] <genii> zwischenzug: Read up on sysctl.conf
[23:52] <daftykins> zwischenzug: 3.13.0-24? that's old
[23:52] <jonny5000> hello just installed ubuntu 14.04 on a lenovo yoga 13 and it does not recognize pointer device (trackpad) any help?
[23:53] <simon235_> daftykins: screenshoting in windows is a nightmare :(
[23:53] <daftykins> no it's not
[23:53] <simon235_> daftykins: https://imgur.com/PsVyg9O
[23:53] <zwischenzug> daftykins, i'm on 14.04, should i update my kernel?
[23:53] <daftykins> err the detail is too hidden, simon235_
[23:54] <daftykins> zwischenzug: yeah you should be on 3.13.0-73 or 74 by now
[23:54] <daftykins> !info linux-generic trusty
[23:54] <daftykins> 74 yep
[23:54] <TJ-> simon235_: we need to see the detail for Disk 1
[23:55] <k1l> zwischenzug: is this a vps?
[23:55] <simon235_> daftykins: TJ- : Better this way? https://imgur.com/mbIe0JE
[23:55] <zwischenzug> k1l, no.
[23:56] <k1l> zwischenzug: so its your machine? and its a regular machine? with no reason for a specific kernel? (like arm or mips or such)
[23:56] <TJ-> simon235_: Yes, can you drill down on Disk 1 menus to get more info on the device itself
[23:57] <zwischenzug> k1l, yes, my machine (running as a x86-64 vm)
[23:57] <daftykins> ok looks like crystaldiskinfo just doesn't support the NVMe SSD yet
[23:57] <k1l> zwischenzug: then install "linux-generic" which will bring you the regular 14.04 kernel.
[23:57] <k1l> hmm, might be due  to your vm method that its on 3.0 kernel
[23:58] <simon235_> TJ-: Do you want to see "properties"? Which tab?
[23:58] <TJ-> simon235_: it might be better to go into the Windows Device Manager, expand the tree down to the SSD device, and screenshot so we can see how Windows sees it connected. Then go to the Properties tab of the SSD itself, and get the device ID (vendor and product)
[23:58] <daftykins> simon235_: the samsung name should show up under storage in device manager -> devmgmt.msc
[23:58] <daftykins> 'Disk drives'
[23:59] <TJ-> simon235_: we're mostly interested in how the SSD is connected to the motherboard devices