[06:19] <Tmmmi> Hello!
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> hey Tmmmi
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: if your interested to test xenial its already possible
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: but keep in mind system can still break in this stage
[06:20] <Tmmmi> Nop, I am waiting for 16.04 final.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: like you wish
[06:32] <CryptoSiD> final isnt due before april right?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: april 21
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: but 31 december 2015, alpha stage
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: im running xenial right now, pretty stable already
[06:34] <CryptoSiD> yep same, hope it never break tho:)
[06:34] <CryptoSiD> cause i run it on my main vm:D
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: :p
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:10] <elhoir> (im stuck with OpenGL 3.3 because of llvm3.6 running) :-/
[13:10]  * elhoir wants to know how to get llvm3.7 running
[14:47] <linuxhp> hi frnds
[14:49] <linuxhp> shall we discuss about ubuntu os
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | linuxhp
[14:51] <linuxhp> i use #ubuntu they only said tojoin #ubuntu+1.so that only i joined.
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: this is for xenial support, not reall a discussion channel
[14:52] <linuxhp> may i know what these people discuss in this #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: we dont discuss here, but support problems
[14:53] <linuxhp> yeah..ok  iam sorry
[14:54] <linuxhp> yesterday i use ubuntu 16.04 os .....this  come only next year.but they release os now
[14:54] <linuxhp> may i know why
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: its the development branch, to test and file bugs
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: its still be working on
[14:55] <linuxhp> is this permanent os ?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: what do you mean with 'permament'?
[14:56] <linuxhp>  sry i mean is this os is able to use now?  is any update come next year?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: you can use this Os for testing right now, and receive updates
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: but keep in mind things can still break in this stage
[14:58] <linuxhp> you mean its not safer in this time .until complete..
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: yes final version is safer
[15:15] <nicomachus> rotate-able unity launcher coming down the pipe? http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-let-users-move-the-unity-launcher-at-the-bottom-of-the-screen-498000.shtml
[15:18] <linuxhp> oh thanky you lotusapsychje
[15:36] <linuxhp> is completing the test of os 16.04 iso, they release os which is same to that i download yesteray or else i download again.
[16:04] <curlyfrustrated> *sigh*  greetings, all
[16:04] <curlyfrustrated> hello, TJ-
[16:05] <curlyfrustrated> TJ-:  I have install LTS 14.04.2 about 6 times, now, adn each time it has failed to boot, with a different error reported each time.  I have used the same hardware and the same install options each time.
[16:06] <curlyfrustrated> the only person who had any relevant knowledge parted from #ubuntu
[16:10] <curlyfrustrated> rats, he's AFK, apparently
[16:23] <curlyfrustrated> AFK
[18:36] <curlyeras> hi, TJ-
[18:36] <curlyeras> anyone in here actually here?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> curlyeras,yes
[18:59] <curlyeras> BlueKaj:   I have installed LTS14.04.2 8 tmies now, using the same CD, same hardware, same options.  Each time the install completes without error, and prompts me for a restart.  Everu time, it fails, each time with a different error message and result.   I am totally baffled.
[19:00] <curlyeras> Some have suggested it is because I am using a 3TB drive, but if 14.04.2 has problesm with drives that large, wouldn't the installer complain?\
[19:01] <curlyeras> I should clarify, they fail to boot, with different reasons\
[19:03] <damascene> curlyeras, I think this channel is for the coming Ubuntu 16.04
[19:03] <curlyeras> BluesKaj:   what sorts of blues do you prefer
[19:03] <curlyeras> ?
[19:04] <damascene> anyway you should specify which error are you exactly seeing on screen
[19:07] <curlyeras> damascene: I am aware.  There have been a few, notably TJ-, who have helped me here, when the #ubuntu hannal has no one who knows
[19:07] <curlyeras> damascene: how can I specify which error I am gettting?  It is different every time
[19:08] <curlyeras> compaints about "inappropriate magic", necessary files not being present, and  now, it is dropping me into grub
[19:09] <curlyeras> I have no way to copy-paste them becsue when they happen I have no capture tool available, as I have no running OS
[19:10] <curlyeras> drops me into grop acter complaing about inappropriate mage
[19:10] <curlyeras> s/ grop acter/grub after/
[19:11] <curlyeras> s/mage/magic
[19:11] <damascene> I do not think it's easy to help you if you did not specify what is the error
[19:11] <damascene> did you try any other version of Ubuntu?
[19:12] <curlyeras> damascene: if you like, I'll reboot, and write the entire messga ee out on papaer, then reboot agaibn, and return here to type it ibn (one line at a time) (about 3 lines)
[19:12] <curlyeras> I have no other version of ubuntu.  this is on a DVD I createddI created in late 2014
[19:12] <damascene> if it's the same message every time that will help. but you are saying it's different every time. Any way providing the message would be better than no providing any thing
[19:13] <curlyeras> it's different every time I INSTALL it.
[19:13] <curlyeras> I haven't re-install since the prior fILURE, SO THE ERROR WILL BE THE SAME
[19:13] <curlyeras> oops, sowwy for the caps
[19:14] <damascene> did you run disk check to verify the integrity of the DVD?
[19:14] <damascene> *DVD check
[19:15] <curlyeras> how do I run DVD check?  I haven't heard of this tool
[19:17] <damascene> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[19:17] <curlyeras> and can I run it while I am booted up on it in  Live CD modwe?
[19:17] <damascene> I think so
[19:18] <curlyeras> oops, I jusr realized I mistyped my nick again  *blush*
[19:18] <curlyeras> so, how do I run it?
[19:18] <damascene> read the link
[19:19] <curlyeras> *wow*  there are CHANNELS of Freenode with 1800+ user...EFnet typically ran a total of about 2200 user on the total network, and there were HUNDREDS f channels
[19:21] <curlyeras> OK, I'll go try that, but it requires me to reoot
[19:21] <curlyeras> \reboot
[19:21] <curlyeras> dowwy, didn't see the link come through, found it, read iot.  Thanks
[19:24] <BluesKaj> curlyeras, I play drums in a blues/rock band, hence the nick
[19:27] <penguin42> he's been fighting that for days now
[19:28] <Curlyears> Well, the instructions for accessing ghe chek DVD menu which are written on that page do not work.  I have never seen this menu.  How do I access it?
[19:30] <Curlyears> at least, they don't seem to work here.  First I tried with holding the "space" key down.  No joy.  Then I tried holding ghe " M" key down, still no joy.  )-:
[19:31] <Curlyears> thw instructions said reboot from the CD, and hold "any ley" down while booting from the CD (DVD in this case)
[19:32] <Curlyears> hi, penguin42slightly different problems today
[19:33] <Curlyears> can you boot from  Blu-ray disk?
[19:33]  * penguin42 has never tried, don't have one
[19:37] <BluesKaj> who needs bluray ;-)
[19:37]  * lotuspsychje has mede8er 1080p mediaplayer
[19:38] <Curlyears> BluesKaj:   don't need to boot from Blu-ray, just wondering if it's doable
[19:38] <genii> I have one in my laptop I used in 2008 and not since
[19:38] <genii> Yes, it is
[19:38] <Curlyears> hey, genii
[19:38] <Curlyears> be right back
[19:38]  * genii waves
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Curlyears, just needs to be bootable
[19:39] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, vlc does the job here
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> vlc to the rescue
[19:54] <curlyears> well, it's not the DVD, I ran the disk verifcation, and it passes with no errors reported.  SO verystrange
[19:56] <curlyears> genii:   do you have a little time?
[19:58] <curlyears> I have cycled through installing and trying to reboot 8 times  Same hardware, same DVD, same options chosen, but every time  it fails to boot, and reports differing errors annd results.. Sometime, it hangs. sometimes it drops me into grub, other times it compalins about initramfs  and dies
[20:00] <curlyears> could it be that 14.04.2 LTS can't handle very large drives (mine is 3TB, which I have been trying to installl as a single large partition).  Wouldn't the installer issue some sort of error message?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: why do you keep saying 14.04.2
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> you need to update your system
[20:01] <BluesKaj> or the OS image
[20:02] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:   to be certain that everyone understands which system I am working with, of course
[20:02] <curlyears> I have to get it installed, before I can update it
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: install 14.04.3 image as BluesKaj say
[20:03] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: can I d/l and burn a new DVD while booted in Live CD mode?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: dont you have a spare usb?
[20:03] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: :   yeah.   burn it to that?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: make an usb with disk creator yes
[20:04] <BluesKaj> curlyears, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/trusty/daily-live/current/
[20:04] <curlyears> ok...off to do that, then
[20:05] <curlyears> "make a USB" ??   I have onne with an FS already moutne
[20:05] <curlyears> mounted
[20:05] <curlyears> and what is disk creator?
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> startup disk creator
[20:06] <curlyears> I made this DVD by buring the .iso to the drive in bootable mode
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> icon with hd + ubuntu logo + green arrow
[20:06] <curlyears> I don't see such an icon
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> dash
[20:08] <curlyears> ah, I see it now...I ghave to d/l the file first, th9ough right?
[20:09] <curlyears> and 14.04.3 should install and boot correctly?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: download latest iso
[20:09] <on247> hi
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: then create the usb stick with startup disk creator
[20:10] <curlyears> OK
[20:10] <curlyears> \see y'sall in a while....and thank you for your patience
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: latest lts: 14.04.3 right
[20:10] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:10] <on247> so after a upgrade to Xenial there is no longer a init.d folder on my server
[20:11] <on247> nor a service command
[20:11] <penguin42> on247: You're now running systemd
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> on247: upgrade from wich version
[20:11] <on247> trusty
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> on247: see what penguin42 says
[20:11] <curlyears> \where is it sacing the d/l file?
[20:11] <penguin42> on247: you can do things like   systemctl enable/disable  thing  to enable/disable it at boot
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | on247
[20:12] <curlyears> where is it saving the d/l file?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: your kidding right?
[20:12] <on247> ok and what if i want to stop start something
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: downloads?
[20:12] <penguin42> on247: systemctl start  thing
[20:12] <on247> thanks
[20:12] <penguin42> on247: Just run     systemctl     on it's own to see the status of services, and   systemctl --list-unit-files   to show services that arne't started/enabled
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> on247: another thing, xenial development branch is not reccomended for server use right
[20:13] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: : I am booted under Live CD mode
[20:13] <on247> Not in prod
[20:13] <on247> yeah i would guess so
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> on247: kk as long as you aware things can still break right
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: open folder from firefox downloads after downloaded
[20:15] <on247> cant list services
[20:15] <penguin42> on247: what happens?
[20:15] <curlyears> open *WHAT* folder?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: press on the iso name inside firefox
[20:16] <curlyears> it is done downloading, but I don't see it anywhere
[20:16] <on247> Failed to list services , launch helper exited with status -1
[20:16] <curlyears> I don't SEE an .iso in firefox
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you see your running ubuntu download right?
[20:17] <penguin42> on247: What command was that from?
[20:17] <curlyears> no, it has finished
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: press on finished download
[20:17] <on247> 'sudo systemctl'
[20:18] <penguin42> on247: Hmmmm
[20:18] <penguin42> on247: what does    ps -p 1     show for pid 1 ?
[20:18] <curlyears> Oh, I see what you meant.  and I was mistoooken, it says it still has 10 minutes to go
[20:19] <on247> init
[20:19] <penguin42> oh, so you're not running systemd
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: when you open disc creator, it will probably see your iso aswell
[20:19] <curlyears> doggone it, I wish I lived in Omaha...they are offer 1gbps Inetrnet connectivity to residential customers now   *sigh*
[20:19] <on247> so i have neither systemd nor upstart
[20:19] <on247> awesome
[20:19] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: OK, I thik I see what you mean nnow
[20:19] <penguin42> on247: Do you have /etc/init ?
[20:19] <on247> nope
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: good!
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: So you've got neither /etc/init nor /etc/init.d ?!
[20:20] <on247> no
[20:20] <on247> neither
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: Hmmmmm
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: If you've got neither of those and aren't running systemd then I'm lost
[20:21] <curlyears> I know this whole mess is making me look really stupid, but honest, I'm not stupid.  Really.  As Sheldon Cooper would say "My mother had me tested!"   *grin*
[20:21] <on247> upgrade went just fine
[20:21] <on247> ran it on my OVZ vps fine
[20:21] <penguin42> on247: What does cat   /etc/issue say ?
[20:22] <curlyears> what source files would I have to modify and recompile to make my display cursor larger?
[20:22] <on247> lol , wrong terminal
[20:22] <curlyears> 7 minutes
[20:23] <on247> was connected to a box that wasnt ubuntu at all
[20:23] <on247> will try on the actual ubuntu one
[20:24] <penguin42> ok, that's making more sense :-)
[20:24] <on247> yup process 1 is systemd
[20:25] <penguin42> ok, that's more reassuring :-)
[20:25] <curlyears> has everyone seen thew episode where shelcon is sitting alone onm the sofa, in his "spot" and crrobning to his laptop "Oh, ubuntu, you're my favorite open source operating system." ??
[20:25] <penguin42> on247: Now, what happens when you run systemctl    ?
[20:25] <on247> get the list
[20:26] <on247> everything running fine
[20:26] <curlyears> s/crrobning/crooning/
[20:26] <penguin42> on247: Excellent :-)
[20:26] <curlyears> crap, I have to stop, this is off-topic )-:
[20:27] <curlyears> BluesKaj, are tyou present?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> curlyears, yes
[20:27] <on247> wierd thing is i had the sytemctl binary
[20:27] <on247> in the other non ubuntu box
[20:28] <on247> or i would found out the mistake sooner
[20:29] <curlyears> looks like thew d/l finished...see you wonderful filk in a few
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> phew
[20:30] <penguin42> on247: What distro is the other box?
[20:30] <on247> Arch linux
[20:30] <penguin42> hmm, I thought Arch was always systemd
[20:31] <on247> now i have to go their irc
[20:31] <on247> beacause indeed is broken in that box
[20:32] <funkyHat> Always? Arch has been around quite a lot longer than systemd
[20:34] <on247> got a issue , now apache refuses to stop
[20:35] <on247> systemctl stop apache2 , looks like it worked
[20:35] <on247> still running
[20:35] <on247> still listening on netstat
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: Try systemctl | grep apache2   - you might find it's also setup as a service
[20:36] <on247> also ?
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: I've not got apache2 on this box
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: But systemctl can also do something like inetd, so I'm just wondering if it restarted it
[20:39] <on247> there is no apache service actually
[20:39] <on247> and it didnt tell me when i tried to stop ?
[20:40] <on247> why i wouldnt have the service
[20:42] <penguin42> on247: Is it called http or something instead?
[20:42] <on247> no , just tried
[20:43] <penguin42> on247: Check with   systemctl --list-unit-files     it sometimes doesn't list stuff that's not enabled/running
[20:45] <on247> also not there
[20:45] <penguin42> hmm
[20:50] <curlyears> *sniff*  Installation failed.  Error #5  IO failed
[20:51] <curlyears> \it's an 8 GB thumb, why would a 1 GB install over-fill it?
[20:51] <curlyears> I have the most deplorable luck
[20:53] <curlyears> well, ,it didn't over fill it,, the USB must be defective.   m,klfs wouldn't have checked that whe in built the filesystem
[20:54] <Guest32522> im back
[20:56] <on247> Any clue on why the service wouldnt be there
[20:56] <curlyears> anyone have any idea why my create an install USB drive failed?
[20:57] <curlyears> should I u[grade to 15.*, or wait until Arpiel for 16.04 LTS?
[20:58] <curlyears> April
[21:00] <curlyears> ?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> curlyears, check out using dd to copy the iso to your usb stick, sudo dd if=/pathtonameof.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M , it will be bootable
[21:01] <curlyears> thanks, B;uesKaj
[21:22] <curlyears> *well poopie words*!!!   My dash and the icons beklow it all disappearedm and notingas working, so I just hit "reset"  )-:
[21:22] <curlyears> now I have to d/l that goldurned iso again!
[21:23] <curlyears> does someone have the URL for 14.04.3?
[21:24] <curlyears> 14.04.3 is only available in 'server' form?
[21:25] <curlyears> that's all that's available at the ubuntu site I just got from google
[21:49] <penguin42> oohhhk, wth hasn't x got a wheel group