[00:14] <nicomachus> not to just decide if I play it safe and order another 4gb stick with the same part number as the existing 4gb stick, or go ahead and get two new 8gb sticks and quadruple my memory...
[00:15] <daftykins> ^_^
[00:15] <daftykins> for an i3 i don't think i'd go all out
[00:16] <nicomachus> probably smart...
[00:17] <daftykins> are you in the SSD club already?
[00:17] <daftykins> OerHeks: o/
[00:17] <OerHeks> hey hey
[00:18] <nicomachus> daftykins: no. :/
[00:19] <krampuss> i keep getting the msg that i don't have enough free memory on my /boot partition to install the latest security updates, i've tried clean and autoremove... is there anything else that i can do other then resize my partition?
[00:19] <daftykins> krampuss: see the topic, the support happens in #ubuntu - however you'll need to kill some older kernels.
[00:21] <nicomachus> daftykins: don't have an SSD bay on this laptop, I'd have to replace the HDD completely.
[00:21] <daftykins> does the thing have an optical?
[00:21] <krampuss> Q
[00:22] <nicomachus> daftykins: yea, but I need to keep that.
[00:22] <nicomachus> work stuff and whatnot
[00:22] <daftykins> ah ok, so no bay caddy mounting the spinny rust
[00:24] <nicomachus> ha, nope. I have a 1TB HDD that I've actually considered taking out of the housing and using to replace the 500gb hdd in this laptop... that's possible, right?
[00:25] <daftykins> from an external? yep, might be slower though if it was a portable external
[00:26] <OerHeks> ssd 2.5 inch is equal to a hdd 2.5 ..but the height may vary
[00:28] <nicomachus> I just remember reading an article of some data storage companies trying to survive a shortage in hard drives, so they went out and bought externals and took 'em outta the casings, then stuck 'em in their servers.
[00:29] <nicomachus> ah, that was surprisingly easy to find. worth a read whenever you get some spare time: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze_drive_farming/
[00:30] <daftykins> mmm i remember the Thailand drive drought
[00:31] <OerHeks> LVM .. sometimes lunatic volume maniac
[00:34] <nicomachus> well, 4gb SO-DIMM ordered. now daftykins has me browsing SSDs out of interest...
[00:38] <daftykins> i am a bad person to befriend
[00:38] <daftykins> ;D
[00:38] <daftykins> that backblaze article was fun! i was teaching back then :>
[00:38] <nicomachus> lol. >$300 for 1TB SSD. not happening.
[00:39] <TJ-> the quick NVMe SSD is-supported check in future. Identifty the SATA controller's device class and if it isn't [0802] as shown by "lspci -nn" the nvme driver won't touch it
[00:39] <daftykins> mmm one for the notes!
[00:41] <daftykins> plenty of time for a cider before bed i think :>
[00:41] <daftykins> then i must pack my tools!
[00:42] <TJ-> pack a husk whilst you're at it :)
[00:42] <TJ-> husky
[00:43] <daftykins> are they good at holding tools, using IDC tools or using network testers? ;)
[00:44] <nicomachus> they can crimp a cable, I'm sure, if they only had thumbs!
[00:45] <TJ-> They're good at lying on tools and making you search for them for 1/2 hour
[00:45] <daftykins> :D
[00:46] <daftykins> i should share a pic of what i do to the patch panels to make a cheap phone line splitter :P you may get a bit horrified
[00:46] <TJ-> Silver 'adopts' things as if they are a puppy and hides them under her chin, very sneaky
[00:46] <nicomachus> TJ-: better than Golden Retrievers, they hide whole dogs: https://i.imgur.com/1SSVsBH.gif
[00:47] <OerHeks> Drabber finds screws, nails, buttons and such and presents them to me
[00:47] <OerHeks> earring
[00:47] <daftykins> TJ-: do you like it? ;) http://i.imgur.com/jReL5NY.jpg
[00:47] <nicomachus> better than my cat... she hoards those things. or pushes them around under furniture.
[00:48] <TJ-> daftykins: that is just so wrong!
[00:48] <daftykins> XD
[00:48] <daftykins> do you really think so? :>
[00:49] <daftykins> it lets me put phone lines in on one port then direct them to the 8 sockets around their house with ease
[00:49] <TJ-> I hope there's no DSL on those lines
[00:49] <daftykins> nah the filtered socket is prior to being put onto this
[00:50] <daftykins> this is purely for the post-filter voice use
[00:50] <daftykins> the telco aren't doing any customer jobs for months atm so this'll get them going
[00:51] <daftykins> cheaper than paying a telco engineer too
[00:52] <daftykins> i know it's a dirty hack but i think it's alright ^_^
[00:56] <nicomachus> time to get some last-minute shopping done... later.
[00:58] <TJ-> oh, that's ok then. I thought the line came into the patch panel
[01:00] <daftykins> :D
[01:04] <daftykins> my engineer mate calls them the "Home 500s" where it's the NTE5 faceplate with a built in filter module plugged in
[01:06] <TJ-> I'm going to head off now, before I get roped into anything else
[01:09] <daftykins> :D
[01:09] <daftykins> squoo.sh those users, sir!
[01:09] <daftykins> me too, i have cider to finish and a bag to pack :>
[01:09] <daftykins> nn all \o
[01:12] <Bashing-om> o/
[03:19] <Bashing-om> leave Nighty nite all
[03:19] <TRIXston> Any operators in here?
[03:33]  * slidinghorn wonders how Tarminquay hasnt been ban-hammered yet
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:18] <Tmmmi> Good morning!
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: join squoo :p
[06:25] <slidinghorn> is sqoo a channel already?
[09:48] <Ben64> cfhowlett: it was a better time...
[09:48] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:48] <Ben64> i miss !work
[09:48] <cfhowlett> ah well, hey, early Happy Xmas and enjoy an eggnog for me.  Looked high and low but not be found in BJ.
[09:49] <Ben64> coming down with a cold today :(
[09:49] <Ben64> 70F in here, wearing a blanket at my desk
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Ben64, my go to cure:  slow boil some sliced ginger until the water turns tan.  pour into a glass.  squeeze a fresh lemon or 2 in there.  add alcoholic libation for flavoring.  enjoy.
[09:52] <Ben64> i'll give it a shot
[09:52] <Ben64> going to vegas on saturday, i'll need to at least act like i'm ok
[09:53] <Ben64> i get sick about once a year around this time, like clockwork
[09:53] <cfhowlett> same here, although it's been twice a year because China ...
[09:53] <Ben64> :(
[09:54] <Ben64> why are you there
[09:54] <cfhowlett> teaching
[09:54] <Ben64> oh thats cool
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:38] <EriC^^> TJ-: how are you saying you came up with this man?
[13:39] <EriC^^> it's pretty dispicable
[13:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: ?
[13:39] <EriC^^> you came up with the idea of using a pastebin to stream a live terminal?
[13:40] <TJ-> EriC^^: no, I first used the bsdutils /usr/bin/script to completely capture shell sessions for replay
[13:40] <EriC^^> oh wow
[13:40] <EriC^^> lol
[13:40] <TJ-> then at some point i figured out (i think due to the 'script' man-page) that it can write into a FIFO
[13:40] <EriC^^> ok that's what it's for anyways
[13:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think you have memory issues
[13:41] <EriC^^> let me refresh your mind and maybe soul
[13:41] <TJ-> so then I wondered if it were posssible to harness BASH's pseudo TCP/UDP sockets to feed that to some remote location, without needing some special tool installed
[13:42] <TJ-> I've used BASH's pseudo sockets for ages to send stuff around, but it was only recently the idea for linking that to 'script' occurred
[13:43] <EriC^^> EriC^^> the other day i found a cool pastebin, | nc cwillu.com 10101 , the cool thing is that all the pastes are on the same link, so the user doesn't have to keep copying links each time
[13:44] <EriC^^> EriC^^> so i was thinking it would be cool if whenever the user ran a command someone gave him, it just automatically pasted it or something
[13:44] <EriC^^> EriC^^> so i came up with this, script -f /tmp/bla , and in another window tail -f /tmp/bla | nc cwillu.com , you get the user's terminal in real-time, even if he doesn't press enter
[13:44] <EriC^^> TJ-> I'll write a similar but live system for my server next week, so Javascript can do JSON calls to fetch the latest data
 we can use that for support, and add features to it to make it simple
[13:45] <EriC^^> recently TJ- the idea to linking it to script occurred? or i told you about it? i even told daftykins about it the day before to see his opinion whether the ubuntu regs would be willing to use it
[13:45] <TJ-> EriC^^: right, I've used all the components in various ways for a long time, but never put it all together as a single automated solution.
[13:45] <EriC^^> he said users might complain about privacy, so i thought to ask again the next day, before going further with the idea
[13:46] <EriC^^> yeah well whatever
[13:46] <EriC^^> that doesn't mean you came up with the idea or the working concept
[13:46] <TJ-> For example, I write up my experiences on my own systems by doing all the work with 'script' to capture the shell session and I feed it directly to my wiki server, then later I go through the capture and trim it down to just the bits that work and insert it into the wiki pages
[13:47] <TJ-> EriC^^: Errr, I never claimed I did
[13:47] <EriC^^> lol
[13:47] <TJ-> I just said where I first came across using 'script'
[13:48] <EriC^^> what do you say when somebody asks you about who came up with the idea, and you say i'e used this for years
[13:48] <TJ-> huh?
[13:48] <TJ-> I have used script for years
[13:49] <EriC^^> i know that's not the point
[13:49] <EriC^^> ok, you're going to pretend to be stupid
[13:49] <EriC^^> and think you're being pedantic and stuff
[13:49] <TJ-> I think you're needlessly conflating two separate things. No one has asked about the streaming terminal
[13:50] <EriC^^> actually 2 have asked
[13:50] <TJ-> my focus has been on making the streaming terminal work with just a shell and no additional tools on the client side
[13:51] <EriC^^> anyways, it's up to you
[13:51] <EriC^^> if you want somebody asking about this
[13:52] <EriC^^> and you say 'well i've used script for years'
[13:52] <EriC^^> it's just messed up of you
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> lets make this all work together guys
[13:52] <EriC^^> and really you're giving the FOSS a really ugly role-model
[13:55] <TJ-> EriC^^: squoo.sh is much much more than the streaming shell to me; that's a minor but useful part. The major part for me is the self-diagnostic and repair tooling, and the accurate version-specific knowledge base
[13:55] <EriC^^> TJ-: i know
[13:55] <EriC^^> and i've my own plans
[13:55] <EriC^^> i've already wanted to make a service that collects logs automatically
[13:56] <TJ-> Ubuntu used to have it but it got dropped
[13:56] <EriC^^> and i also have a program i've finished a couple months ago, that does uefi troubleshooting and grub and switching files etc.
[13:56] <EriC^^> the idea is that i wanted to take input from the community
[13:56] <EriC^^> and obviously you liked the idea, fine great
[13:57] <EriC^^> then you're not taking any input from me around it, and i was the one who showed it to you guys for input
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: TJ- added you to the ops before i even found the channel, so means he wants to work with you right
[13:57] <EriC^^> then people are asking about it and you don't mention me, nor on the website anywhere
[13:58] <TJ-> EriC^^: I didn't realise you were doing that, not conciously anyhow, even if we've talked coding at times.
[13:59] <EriC^^> i dont have a problem if you want to make a site
[13:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: and, as for the web-site, right now it's a quick set of holding pages to just have something up there. My intention has always been to have it credit everyone who wants their name on it fully, in fact, once I've written the code I rather hope othes will managed the content
[14:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: it would obviously be a useful additional to a portfolio for people who contribute
[14:02] <TJ-> EriC^^: I've been considering doing this for at least three years but held back since I cannot do it alone; when the -discuss grouping started to 'gel' in the last few months it pushed me into commiting some time and effort to make it happen
[14:14] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok, you want to make a certain something, and i want to make a certain something, i've no problem with you going ahead with your site/pastebin, just if somebody asks how you came up with the idea for a live terminal, i'd appreciate you not saying 'ive used script for years' and mentioning me, it's up to you though
[14:15] <EriC^^> i've completed my own site, it's bash <(curl -s openterm.tk) , you're welcome to use it to help others on ubuntu and anywhere else
[14:16] <EriC^^> i'll be adding the grub/uefi troubleshooting program, if you do want to use it ( if you do ), please keep the name of who wrote it, and mention in any credits
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: how does it work exactly?
[14:56] <EriC^^> how does what work?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: your site, to solve issues on users
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tried curl -s openterm.tk from terminal but pastes the site
[14:58] <EriC^^> try it
[14:58] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: type bash <(curl -s openterm.tk)
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[14:59] <EriC^^> httpL//openterm.tk/6ibc
[14:59] <EriC^^> i chose number 1 ( login loop issue )
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: cool! http://openterm.tk/btb7/
[14:59] <EriC^^> :D
[15:00] <EriC^^> *http://openterm/6ibc
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:05] <EriC^^> i'll add a lot more stuff later
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice, testing graphics
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> http://openterm.tk/ro5r
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> space http://openterm.tk/1afl
[15:11] <EriC^^> i need to work on the pastebin code more
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: looks pretty nice already
[15:12] <EriC^^> type echo Live terminal: , in the terminal when that happens
[15:12] <EriC^^> it searches for that to start the live terminal below and misses it sometimes
[15:13] <EriC^^> if you type a few of them it should start it
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: very usefull to use on users
[15:15] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: this can be used already in the field safely right?
[15:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[15:17] <EriC^^> i'm hesitant to put the uefi program though as a bug could delete files or whatnot
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah might be dangerous
[15:18] <EriC^^> it's pretty neat, it searches your whole pc for installations, finds them, mounts everything, looks for a lot of uefi mbr gpt etc related stuff ( basically most of the stuff i've come across while helping in the channel )
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:19] <EriC^^> then you get a menu and you can reinstall grub, or troubleshoot uefi, switch the efi files, revert them back etc.
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sounds pretty high tech
[15:20] <EriC^^> it's like 1200lines of code it uses system() though as i didn't know much c when i started writing it like last year, been adding a feature every time i dont have traffic for internet it's pretty done since a couple months though
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice
[15:22] <EriC^^> http://openterm.tk/e0n7
[15:22] <EriC^^> i'll show you it
[15:22] <EriC^^> let me know when you open the page and if you can see stuff
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> bla
[15:22] <EriC^^> ok cool
[15:23] <EriC^^> you can say no, and it'll keep checking for other installations
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: is this my system or yours?
[15:23] <EriC^^> checks for a bunch of mismatches and stuff, then it found that i have a msdos partition table disk
[15:24] <EriC^^> so it's asking if this is another hdd with windows or something, or just like a data drive
[15:24] <EriC^^> ( cause i'm using uefi on my system )
[15:24] <EriC^^> yeah it's my pc
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> ah
[15:24] <EriC^^> anyways now it's in, you can press 6 to get a chroot
[15:25] <EriC^^> or troubleshoot uefi or switch the efi files or revert them back to microsoft ones
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so a live terminal, can be viewed both sides, helper and user
[15:25] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> thats crazy
[15:26] <EriC^^> the live terminal?
[15:26] <EriC^^> you mean crazy good idea ?
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah like it, yeah crazy good
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> so helper can follow the users steps
[15:27] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> brb
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> back
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: does the 4 graphics show wich nvidia driver version is installed exactly or latency
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i got ati, so cant check http://openterm.tk/mcs0/
[15:40] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: it's supposed to do dpkg -l | grep "nvidia\|fglrx" at some point
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you have nvidia?
[15:41] <EriC^^> nope amd too
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: im asking this because we have many issues on nvidia-352 lately
[15:41] <EriC^^> oh
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so exact version would be very nice, instead of poking the user to check additional drivers
[15:42] <EriC^^> exact version of the driver? like nvidia-352..etc ?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-352
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> or nvidia-346 etc
[15:43] <EriC^^> it should show up below the xorg stuff right before the headers i think
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: handy for optimus cards etc
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:44] <EriC^^> it says you have nouveau installed?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: Kernel driver in use: radeon
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> ati card here
[15:44] <EriC^^> the package though
[15:44] <EriC^^> ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[15:45] <EriC^^> or that's standard?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but for nvidia, sudo lshw -C video shows us nvidia=latency or something
[15:45] <EriC^^> i have it too
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: instead of right nvidia-352
[15:45] <EriC^^> aha
[15:45] <EriC^^> i see
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> so not sure howto call right driver version in use
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> on vidia
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-drivers is more a list of all right?
[15:46] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:50] <EriC^^> i added lshw -C video
[15:50] <EriC^^> need to remove the warning message though
[15:50] <EriC^^> i didn't use sudo, cause the less sudo the better i guess
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:51] <EriC^^> just the grub/hdd issues need sudo to get the data, and there's a message about it and stuff
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but with nvidia it will show nvidia=latency
[15:52] <EriC^^> i'll put lshw to the top below the ubuntu-drivers stuff
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> im looking up howto find right nvidia version
[15:52] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: "cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/driver/module/version" - not hard to map the PCI/e device to the card* node
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: that will show the right module in use?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> maybe something like this? $ nvidia-settings -q NvidiaDriverVersion
[15:56] <TJ-> I generally try to avoid relying on any optional/maybe-not-working tools, and sysfs is guaranteed to contain the info provided the system isn't totally broken
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> good thinking
[15:59] <TJ-> e.g. use "readlink " or "ls -l" on "readlink /sys/class/drm/card0/device/driver" and you get "../../../../bus/pci/drivers/nvidia"
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but will that show nvidia module or nvidia-352 specific?
[16:03] <TJ-> "  X=0; D=$(readlink /sys/class/drm/card${X}/device/driver); V=$(cat /sys/class/drm/card${X}/device/driver/module/version); echo "$X ${D##*/} $V"   "
[16:03] <TJ-> ==> "0 nvidia 340.96"
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cool!
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> you guys add that stuff :p
[16:04] <TJ-> if you change the way the variables are extracted at the end of that line to be "... ${D##*/}-${V%%.*}" then you'll get "0 nvidia-340"
[16:06] <TJ-> those ## and %% are shell constructs that strip leading, or trailing, text that matches the pattern (so ##*/ strins all leading text up to and include the last "/" whereas %%.* strips all text from the end, back to the first "." - they aren't regular expressions, just shell wildcard matchining
[16:07] <TJ-> ##*/ is routinely used to extract the filename from a variable containing a full path
[16:07] <TJ-> same as the 'basename' command does
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cool
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: openterm, from cfhowlett nvidia: http://openterm.tk/qwv1
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> but with performance mode disabled
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> so i wonder if it would show nvidia-352 if enabled
[16:19] <nicomachus> sometimes I wonder how some of these users managed to boot their computer and find IRC...
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: lol
[16:20] <nicomachus> then I remember where I was 2 years ago.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: i think they install gentoo from scratch to hop on irc and ask about ubuntu issues just for play :p
[16:22] <cfhowlett> I'm all for removing #ubuntu from the default irc just so they have the experience of actually thinking before typing
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> find the right support channel
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> actually not a bad idea
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> so the real users only find their way in
[16:23] <nicomachus> where is it default?
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu
[16:25] <nicomachus> yea but what client actually has #ubuntu as a default autojoin channel?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: its freenode that autojoins to #ubuntu
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> i think
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm irssi doesnt auto join
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: maybe a hexchat thing then
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> hi OerHeks
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> new isp?
[16:32] <OerHeks> no, setting up, brb
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl souper
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> re
[17:30] <pauljw> hi
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[17:31] <pauljw> :)
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: did you last xmass shopping already?
[17:32] <pauljw> :) we don't celebrate
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[17:32]  * nicomachus ordered earrings for his mother from overstock on Thursday, Dec. 17th and paid for 2 day shipping... they are scheduled to arrive Saturday, Dec. 26th
[17:32]  * nicomachus grumbles...
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: ouch..
[17:32] <pauljw> that's too bad
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> wb OerHeks
[17:36] <pauljw> nicomachus, one of the best things about moms is there understanding...
[17:36] <pauljw> their even
[17:37] <nicomachus> yea... she is. still ticked at Overstock for waiting 4 days to ship out the item.
[17:37] <pauljw> no doubt
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> online shopping is Hot this year
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> but the poor delivery guys...overtimes
[17:38] <pauljw> they get paid well to do it...
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> one uk delivery guy throwed the package on the roof lol
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: true that
[17:39] <pauljw> maybe not in the UK huh?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> the problem always starts when someone not home..
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> taking back the package is more work...
[17:40] <pauljw> yeah, we've had a rash of package thefts in the states
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: how they steal?
[17:41] <pauljw> follow the delivery trucks and then run onto property and take the packages
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> wow
[17:42] <pauljw> then sell items on ebay...
[17:43] <nicomachus> ugh. Overstock is trying to blame the post office.... what idiots.
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> oO
[17:44] <nicomachus> got my $10 for shipping refunded, though, and told them in a not-so-nice way that I'll never buy from them again, so there's that.
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> anyone want an ubuntu xmass present: http://news.softpedia.com/news/there-are-probably-more-than-1-billion-ubuntu-users-canonical-lead-explains-498035.shtml
[18:00] <OerHeks> 1 billion ... sure
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: its from canonical :p
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wb
[18:10]  * lotuspsychje is drinking shots
[18:10] <EriC^^> thanks
[18:11] <EriC^^> trying to watch a movie, keeps buffering though
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/git-vulnerability-founds-and-fixes-in-all-supported-ubuntu-oses-498042.shtml
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: vlc or tv?
[18:11] <EriC^^> movienight.ws
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> speed issues over internet>?
[18:12] <EriC^^> it was working perfectly, recently last movie i tried didnt, and this is buffering alot too
[18:12] <EriC^^> hmm i think their server is overloaded maybe
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:14] <EriC^^> hows the driving going?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: didnt exercise since last time
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hmm steve jobs playing smooth here
[18:16] <daftykins> hi team!
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[18:16] <EriC^^> hi daftykins
[18:16] <daftykins> cor long day today
[18:17] <daftykins> ended up at a second place crawling through between a roof and walls to lay a network cable :>
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:17] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: try in the middle of the sea
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ok
[18:18] <TJ-> daftykins: so you're covered in cobwebs?
[18:18] <daftykins> yep! straight in the shower once i got in
[18:18] <daftykins> they're quite the heavy smokers at that clients too, so i smell quite off on getting home :P
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: working, but on vdsl2 30mbit here
[18:19] <EriC^^> oh ok, thanks
[18:19] <daftykins> annoyingly i put that nvidia GT 610 into a desktop PC there and yet i couldn't get it to drive that 27" HDMI display after a reboot =| it'd come up blank!
[18:20] <TJ-> daftykins: including POST?
[18:21] <daftykins> it'd always POST on the large display over HDMI just fine, but it'd boot in and be blank to the HDMI with this custom resolution of 2560x1440 and timing method of CVTrb that i had to force in the nvidia settings, to get it to run that high res
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: linux or win?
[18:21] <daftykins> Windows 7
[18:22] <daftykins> the secondary display is a 1280x1024 LCD over VGA, it'd display fine on reboot whilst the main HDMI was blank... yet the mouse pointer would be invisible!
[18:22] <daftykins> i even tried two totally separate driver versions to be sure it wasn't a quirk there
[18:22] <TJ-> sounds like an incorrect modeline
[18:22] <daftykins> my plan is to take along a dual-link DVI cable to try, to rule out the HDMI having a quirk
[18:22] <daftykins> has to wait 'til new year now though! :(
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox xenial
[18:23] <daftykins> i had to dig into the nvidia settings on my own windows desktop to drive that thing too, but it didn't have issues on reboot
[18:23] <TJ-> when in doubt I'd configure things for a text-mode start, no graphical modes (GRUB_TERMINAL=console  and 'nomodeset')
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: seems like 42 on xenial hmmzz
[18:24] <daftykins> TJ-: its' auto detect thinks it's a 1920x1080 panel, that comes up just fine
[18:24] <daftykins> i didn't have any of my Linux flash drives with me as it goes, wouldn't hurt to have seen what that would do
[18:25] <TJ-> daftykins: I'd trust auto-detect if there's an EDID - on some large-screens the EDID can vary based on which input is connected
[18:26] <daftykins> TJ-: it seems that haswell based laptop i got him likes it just fine, but both my windows desktops nvidia GTX 560Ti and his new GT 610 require the timing mode to be adjusted and the resolution specified specifically
[18:26] <TJ-> daftykins: as in different modes are available per-input. I've seen VGA analogue offer higher resolutions than the HDMI/DVI inputs, since those are set up for only HD modes
[18:27] <daftykins> my understand was that VGA's max is 2048x1536 though?
[18:27] <daftykins> *understanding
[18:29] <TJ-> On VGA/XGA it depends on the CTRC (timing circuits) some can do 2560x2048
[18:29] <TJ-> s/CTRC/CRTC/
[18:29] <daftykins> hrmm, digital would definitely be preferable though
[18:29] <TJ-> it could be the GPU cannot generate the modeline timings you asked for, if you know they work for the monitor
[18:30] <daftykins> the card has one each of VGA, Dual-link DVI and HDMI - with the desire to run two displays
[18:30] <daftykins> yeah after booting into the freshly installed driver with VGA: 1280x1024 HDMI: 1920x1080... i could set the manual mode to the HDMI to end up at 2560x1440, it just couldn't survive Windows rebooting
[18:32] <TJ-> did you try a Linux Live boot and check the xrandr offerings on the output?
[18:32] <daftykins> nah, had none on me sadly - this was more of a tack-on to the day so wasn't quite so prepared
[18:32] <daftykins> the cabling jobs were the priority
[18:33] <TJ-> It likely does require the dual-link DVI rather than HDMI
[18:33] <daftykins> sounds like i'm running it too high for HDMI and that DVI would be fine, based on my googling
[18:33] <daftykins> ja :D
[18:33] <TJ-> ahh, I have one of those small keyring-style devices I carry for instant diags
[18:33] <daftykins> must be just slightly too old
[18:33] <daftykins> mmm i normally have my bag loaded up with all my collection of OSs but foolishly not, today
[18:34] <TJ-> always happens that way :D
[18:34] <daftykins> http://www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-NVIDIA/GeForce_GT_610.html <-- mmm site confirms some specs there, max HDMI 1920x1200
[18:35] <TJ-> yes, that makes perfect sense
[18:35] <daftykins> so odd it can do that high res incidentally, but not at boot
[18:35] <daftykins> hard to say there won't be other complications though, i guess
[18:36] <TJ-> but does it drive at max res at boot-time? usually boot-time is pure VGA
[18:36] <TJ-> does the monitor OSD report the modes as they change?
[18:37] <daftykins> quirkily you can see the backlight engage, the OSD shows it's receiving 2560x1440@60Hz, but the image never changes from blank
[18:37] <daftykins> the lights are on but no-one's home ;)
[18:38] <TJ-> ahhh, so it receives the mode but the GPU can't stuff the data down the pipes
[18:39] <daftykins> after a few seconds you see it blank, the backlight goes off and the power-save OSD comes up... then it re-engages still blank
[18:39] <daftykins> i think it causes the nvidia display driver to have some real issues too, hence the invisible mouse pointer and inability for it to correct itself when unplugging the HDMI
[18:39] <daftykins> must be trying to 'overclock' it to some extent
[18:40] <daftykins> i wonder if it'd work @ 30Hz :)
[18:40] <daftykins> anywho, DVI would be ideal as then he can keep the laptop plugged into HDMI at the same time
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: join #squoo.sh :p
[19:01] <daftykins> :D
[19:01] <daftykins> ooh i must add it to my autojoin
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: your already in :p
[19:03] <TJ-> :D
[19:03] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:03] <daftykins> ja i just didn't have it on auto :>
[19:03] <daftykins> i don't even bother learning irssi's command set, i just hand edit the .irssi/config file XD
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[19:05] <Bashing-om> Hiya lotuspsychje Here we go again  ! Ride-em cowboy .
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> yihaaaa
[19:06] <daftykins> Bashing-om: \o :D
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> wb EriC^^
[19:19] <EriC^^> thanks
[19:24] <daftykins> DosTuMai: wb o/
[19:25] <DosTuMai> \o
[19:25] <DosTuMai> I hate my network.
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: whats going on?
[19:27] <DosTuMai> Terribad internet, not much else. But on a lighter note, I crashed in to the side of a BMW earlier.
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[19:29] <DosTuMai> It's fine, his passenger-side panels are dented because I was quick enough to jump and wall-ride that assholes car for cutting me up.
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: police came by?
[19:31] <DosTuMai> Police were right behind him in an unmarked car, they saw the whole thing.
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: the accident is in your favor?
[19:32] <DosTuMai> He just cut me up without indicating, or looking where he was turning. And - as of experience - I turn defensive when BMWs are near.
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:32] <daftykins> my parents always say they're driven by assholes!
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: no physical damage i hope?
[19:34] <DosTuMai> Cut a chunk out of my tyre tread, but no real damage to Betsie. I'm fine, too.
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> good
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: what about the insurance?
[19:35] <DosTuMai> I'm a cyclist, don't need insurance, but I'm looking at policies now.
[19:39] <daftykins> i had a couple of close shaves today, too
[19:40] <DosTuMai> BMWs? xD
[19:41] <DosTuMai> Or Audis? BMW drivers are starting to move over to Audi, now...
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> me and my gf have been xmass shopping in germany
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> those germans drive crazy
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> 200km/h+ with their audi's
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> racing each other
[19:42] <DosTuMai> Das Autobahn? =P
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> jahwolle
[19:42] <DosTuMai> Used to love going there on my motorbike.
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> not healthy
[19:43] <daftykins> ;)
[19:43] <daftykins> DosTuMai: Betsie not a bit much to handle for the road use?
[19:44] <DosTuMai> Yes & no. Gets the heart pumping, and adrenalin releases endorphins which are also good. =]
[19:44] <DosTuMai> Daftykins: Betsie is my only bicycle. Looking for a nice, well-priced road bike.
[19:45] <daftykins> ah reet
[19:45] <daftykins> i did a few miles on my little speccy rockhopper today to go to some jobs
[19:46] <daftykins> i keep looking at my Epic though and wanting to take it for a spin, but DH tires... ;_;
[19:46] <daftykins> if i weren't so lazy i'd throw back on the very worn XC ones i had before that
[19:46] <DosTuMai> Not tried Specialized Purgatory tyres?
[19:48]  * daftykins looks up
[19:48] <DosTuMai> Or do you run tubeless? Purgatorys are really nice tyres, but not very good for low-pressure tubeless.
[19:48] <daftykins> got a pair of Maxxis High Rollers right now
[19:48] <daftykins> nah still got tubes
[19:49] <DosTuMai> They're not DH tyres. o_o Minions, sure!
[19:49] <daftykins> pfft i don't agree there
[19:50] <DosTuMai> You got the big 3C versions with the DH casing?
[19:51] <daftykins> 'super tacky' model that's a bit lighter
[19:51] <daftykins> well, negligibly actually... but very good tread on 'em
[19:51] <DosTuMai> Ah, yah. Great tyres, but yah, still quite heavy.
[19:51] <daftykins> they were ace whilst away - in the dry conditions at least
[19:52] <DosTuMai> Stick a Shorty up front, Highroller/Minion DHR out back. Best setup for winter.
[19:53] <daftykins> ah well there'll be no riding over here for it anywho
[19:54] <daftykins> i swear riding that bike for DH was such a struggle geometry wise that it trashed my joints too :P
[19:54] <daftykins> very hard work on the legs
[19:55] <DosTuMai> Great XC bike, real bad for the uber steep technical stuff.
[19:55] <daftykins> i'm in two minds now, as the shocks need a full service and the rear swingarm pivot bearings need replacing, but even after all that it'd be the wrong type of bike if i were to go away again / try some local DH
[19:55] <daftykins> given transport off-island to Wales/UK for some true DH riding again as well, it strikes me as easier to just hire at the time
[19:55] <DosTuMai> What kinda rider are you?
[19:57] <daftykins> new to anything beyond A to B transport really :>
[19:58] <DosTuMai> You aggressive - really hard on the brakes, in to corners - or more flowy?
[19:59] <daftykins> the latter i guess, bit cautious still since it was my first time trying it
[20:01] <DosTuMai> Wanna stick to Specialized, or try something else? For a go anywhere bike I'd say Speccy Enduro for sure, maybe a Kona 153. If you wanna splash out: Knolly and Santa Cruz do oh, so beautiful bikes.
[20:02] <daftykins> that Bikepark Wales had Treks on site, for mid-range there was a Slash 7 for hire that i got the first day when mine was in for repair
[20:03] <daftykins> the real trouble is that dropping any real money on something given i live on this island, would be like a fish buying a bike
[20:04] <DosTuMai> True, so go for a long-term upgrade bike. =]
[20:10] <daftykins> haha
[20:10] <daftykins> i'd have to go visit wales for the next 27 years in a row to justify buying a £2,500 bike instead of hiring :)
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> oO
[20:11] <DosTuMai> <_<
[20:15] <DosTuMai> You can always buy second-hand. I did with Betsie.
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> lol draftykins
[20:28] <daftykins> i always get called that :( i'm not drafty at all ;_;
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:29]  * DosTuMai huggles Daftykins.
[20:30] <daftykins> d'aww <3
[20:30] <daftykins> i feel i should treat myself to a curry tonight
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> mmmm
[20:30] <DosTuMai> I'm about to watch a Mac Pro get blown up by C4... and there it goes.
[20:30] <daftykins> that is a very fitting end
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> what time do i have to be there?
[20:31] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: 35 mins from now :>
[20:31] <daftykins> also i hope you like spicey food
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> yeahhh
[20:31] <DosTuMai> And the fool put it on top a a fuel can. =|
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> like thai and indian
[20:31] <daftykins> XD
[20:32] <daftykins> mmm last thursday i was there with friends, the guy advised i try a vindaloo strength chicken jalfrezi, that was pretty impressive
[20:34] <daftykins> could go with that again, mmm
[20:34] <daftykins> lamb is ace, though
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> mmmmm
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> i love lamb curry
[20:35] <daftykins> :D
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> one time i burnt my mouth at indian resto
[20:35] <DosTuMai> Chicken should only go in qorma. >_>
[20:35] <daftykins> i've known some chickens that will go where they please! :D
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> they brought me indian pickles..but strong... you have no idea
[20:36] <DosTuMai> Beef & lamb are the best for curries! D=
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> had to recover 30min from it
[20:36] <daftykins> DosTuMai: ^5!
[20:36] <DosTuMai> ./5 =D
[20:37] <daftykins> well if you folks were feeling wealthy enough to come and visit a funny island in the English Channel you would be most welcome to come and share a curry :>
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> mmmm
[20:37] <DosTuMai> IoW? =P Sure, I live near Liverpool.
[20:39] <daftykins> hehe, nah Guernsey
[20:39] <daftykins> a true foreigner, i am!
[20:39] <DosTuMai> Much less easy to reach, then. xD
[20:40] <DosTuMai> I'm a good Hindi girl. Curry is in my blood.
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> your a girl?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> on a motorcycle?
[20:41] <DosTuMai> Yes.
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> better ask her for that curry daftykins :p
[20:42] <daftykins> ;)
[20:42] <daftykins> DosTuMai: pff, flights from Manchester :P
[20:42] <DosTuMai> Don't have a motorbike any more, I was caught breaking the speed limit on the M4 slightly...
[20:43] <TJ-> 'slightly'
[20:44] <DosTuMai> I wasn't full throttle...
[20:44] <daftykins> :>
[20:44] <daftykins> so slightly TJ- was reading about it in the papers for weeks! ;)
[20:45] <DosTuMai> I take it people in #ubuntu weren't fans of my youtube link, I guess. xD
[20:45]  * daftykins glances
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: you can share stuff like that here
[20:45] <DosTuMai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA_v0YMPN9c
[20:45] <daftykins> oh wow i'm so in support mode i didn't even see it!
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> ok nite nite folks
[20:46] <DosTuMai> Night, Lotus. o7
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> and merry XMASS night tomorrow
[20:46] <DosTuMai> Ack.
[20:46] <DosTuMai> Too late to wish a blessed Solstice, that was yesterday.
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> you can bless daftykins with a kiss :p
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> ==out
[20:47] <daftykins> i've a feeling lotuspsychje is trying to get us to... nope can't quite work it out ;)
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> and OerHeks will kiss his dog
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> cheers guys!
[20:47] <daftykins> ta-ra sir!
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> have a good one
[20:47] <DosTuMai> Sleep well. =]
[20:47] <daftykins> and you o/
[20:48] <daftykins> DosTuMai: i've always meant to check out the north, as much as folks say not to bother
[20:48] <DosTuMai> It's a really nice place, and some good riding spots.
[20:49] <daftykins> perhaps my new year work increase will give spending moneys
[20:50] <DosTuMai> Kewlies. I'm doing ridiculous amounts of work right now, but I'll be booking my next holiday in a couple months.
[20:50] <daftykins> neat! got anywhere in mind?
[20:50] <DosTuMai> Tokyo!
[20:51] <daftykins> ooh nice, always wanted to visit Japan
[20:51] <daftykins> kept missing the opportunities when a mate was working out there temporarily
[20:51] <DosTuMai> I'd recommend it, beautiful country.
[20:52] <DosTuMai> I am in awe, helping 2 people at once...
[20:53] <daftykins> haha, don't be... i haven't exactly got the answer for this one
[20:53] <daftykins> when i get to 3 at once i start to self destruct
[20:54] <DosTuMai> Is he trying to force a different ratio to what the GPU can handle?
[20:56] <daftykins> just faffing with parameters of no relevance i think
[20:56] <daftykins> EriC^^ is my saviour \o/ now i can go get food :>
[20:56] <EriC^^> haha
[20:56] <EriC^^> i was just in the kitchen making a sandwich :D
[20:56] <DosTuMai> Trying to fix the problem in the wrong place. I'm lurking and learning. =P
[20:57]  * daftykins squints at DosTuMai 
[20:57] <daftykins> i see your game...!
[20:57] <daftykins> and i approve ^_^
[21:01]  * daftykins studies the takeaway menu
[21:02] <daftykins> aww lamb isn't on the menu as a jalfrezi option
[21:02] <DosTuMai> =|
[21:03] <DosTuMai> Pork is too sweet for jalfrezi.
[21:04] <daftykins> how do they have seabass jalfrezi and not lamb XD
[21:04] <DosTuMai> They craycray?
[21:05] <DosTuMai> Right, I need to stop hanging with so many trolls... yah, it's weird they don't have lamb.
[21:05] <daftykins> aww yeah they do do lamb!
[21:10] <daftykins> ooh my the town rabble are flooding down the hill past my house
[21:10] <daftykins> downsides to being 10m from the high street
[21:12] <DosTuMai> Yah, I'm 100m from the local train station, and the end of my street is part of the highstreet.
[21:12] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: IRT ilmaisin : for Intel, is there even a driver loaded ? As Intel "just works" .
[21:14] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: i986, IIRC. or something like that. xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:14] <EriC^^> he says if he removes gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode in the grub entry it works
[21:14] <daftykins> DosTuMai: ah har, so you must get similar fun
[21:16] <daftykins> ok food time \o/
[21:16] <DosTuMai> Drunk people urinating against the front door? Yah.
[21:16] <daftykins> yes! through the letterbox too!
[21:18] <DosTuMai> The general public are such wonderful people...
[21:18] <daftykins> aww yis
[21:18] <daftykins> ok back shortly
[21:19] <DosTuMai> Okies. =]
[21:34] <daftykins> aww yis
[21:34]  * daftykins sips free beer
[21:35] <DosTuMai> =]
[21:38] <daftykins> the cat is looking at me expectantly
[21:38] <Bashing-om> A bit of beer in cat, cat goes a long ways .
[21:39] <DosTuMai> ^That.
[21:40] <Bashing-om> ^Maybe their babies get born naked ?
[21:40] <DosTuMai> Don't all?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Kittens . Most I have experience with .. turn up fur coated .
[21:43] <daftykins> ^
[21:43] <DosTuMai> True. Which is wrong, y'know fur is evil, right?
[21:44] <daftykins> they blatantly didn't get the memo
[21:44] <DosTuMai> I know! I think we should get PETA over to show them.
[21:46] <daftykins> give them an anonymous tip that there's a huge fur exhibit on... at Crufts
[21:47] <DosTuMai> xD
[21:47] <DosTuMai> Don't encourage me!
[21:48]  * daftykins does it
[21:48] <daftykins> :P
[21:57] <daftykins> right, now back to my customers!
[21:57]  * daftykins peers into #ubuntu
[21:58] <daftykins> these folks keep on doing such ridiculous things then coming in to ask us to pick up the pieces
[22:01] <daftykins> ah here we are right on time :S
[22:01] <daftykins> DosTuMai: do you have any plans for the coming days?
[22:02] <DosTuMai> Hibernation.
[22:02] <DosTuMai> No work for the next 2 days, so I'll be riding and resting.
[22:02] <DosTuMai> How about you? =]
[22:02] <daftykins> \o/
[22:03] <daftykins> couple of family appearances must be made, just had a text my mate is going to pop in tomorrow instead of go to his job :D
[22:03] <DosTuMai> =D
[22:03] <daftykins> i'll probably take his phone off him and fix the broken screen \o/
[22:03] <DosTuMai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKsf6OQ5cPQ
[22:03] <daftykins> other than that yeah, just socialise and relax
[22:08] <daftykins> i think i'm gonna struggle with not having work to do compared with the past month or two...
[22:08] <daftykins> i might have to invent work ;)
[22:09] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Wot ? This here #ubuntu is not work ? Sure manages to keep me occupied :)
[22:10] <daftykins> :D
[22:10] <daftykins> oh that's if i come on ;)
[22:10] <daftykins> clearly i will :)
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Been on here a while, you have yet to fail ( without prior warning ) .
[22:19] <daftykins> blech, Windows disk management dumbing down partitioning so the youngsters don't get the fun of MBR approaches
[22:20] <daftykins> quite clearly the logical drives exist within an extended partition!
[22:20] <daftykins> i'm sure i've seen this guy in here before though, with the dynamic disk =|
[22:20] <daftykins> i reckon it'll cause me some trouble before this night is out
[22:21] <Bashing-om> The lengths "they" go to .. just to make it the more difficult to install an alternate operating system ! Yukkie .
[22:22] <daftykins> :D
[22:23] <daftykins> well being a dynamic disk is definitely not something normal in the Windows world even, so it's something this person has done
[22:23] <daftykins> it's kind of like the Windows equivalent of LVM
[22:28] <Bashing-om> Well, my understanding ( weak, weak !) is The SFS is for dynamic partitions. as a proprietary overlay over physical partitions when you use MBR and want more than 4 partitions.
[22:29] <DosTuMai> Heh, more reason to get more people over to Ubuntu. =P
[22:29] <daftykins> Bashing-om: SFS?
[22:29] <DosTuMai> Stupid Filing System?
[22:29] <daftykins> :D
[22:30] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah .. in that Windows dynamic partitoning .. one sees 'SFS' as the type .
[22:31] <Bashing-om> ^ in the 'fdisk' output .
[22:31] <daftykins> oic, not sure i've spotted that before
[22:32] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Bit me a couple of times .. why it 'sticks' in my mind .
[22:33] <nicomachus> https://i.imgur.com/xVphIBu.jpg
[22:33] <nicomachus> so excited
[22:34] <daftykins> ah har
[22:35] <DosTuMai> Is that their discography? o_o
[22:35] <nicomachus> basically. missing just a couple.
[22:35] <nicomachus> coming to streaming service near you on Christmas eve.
[22:35] <daftykins> i never paid much attention to the Beatles
[22:35] <nicomachus> that scrot is from a friend in NZ (it's already christmas eve there)
[22:35] <nicomachus> daftykins: now's your chance!
[22:36] <DosTuMai> Not really my kinda music, either. I like some of their stuff.
[22:41] <nicomachus> my work playlist for the last few days, in anticipation: https://imgur.com/M2eyroL
[22:41] <DosTuMai> More in to RAWK!
[22:42] <daftykins> heh nah i don't use any streaming services
[22:44] <DosTuMai> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1XfDBb8toplamNDSGJjWjVoV2s
[22:44] <DosTuMai> ^My playlist makes me sad. =[
[22:44] <daftykins> rizi is #1 hacker
[22:45] <daftykins> there was me giggling yesterday at a client having an 8GB iPod touch... ;D
[22:45] <daftykins> you could fit that!
[22:45] <DosTuMai> Yah, I used to have 380k tracks...
[22:46] <daftykins> disk failure? D:
[22:47] <DosTuMai> RL failure.
[22:47] <daftykins> o0
[22:47] <daftykins> DosTuMai: i hope that red triangle isn't an unhappy updates one! :D
[22:48] <DosTuMai> Laptop is fully updated, just can't get rid of it. =|
[22:49] <daftykins> weird
[22:50] <nicomachus>  mine did that a bit on 15.04
[22:50] <DosTuMai> Very, but it's a minor inconvenience. Could be because every time I update it tries to read the CD in installed 15.04 with.
[22:50] <daftykins> DosTuMai: click system settings -> software and updates -> uncheck the CD tickbox
[22:51] <daftykins> should be on the first tab in the lower frame
[22:51] <daftykins> or possibly second tab
[22:51] <daftykins> "dafitykins" this time, is that a compliment? o0
[22:52] <nicomachus> I'm amazed at your patience with him.
[22:55] <daftykins> DosTuMai: was it there?
[22:55] <DosTuMai> Daf[Tab] it's not hard to get right...
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Lemme hunt .. there is a risky way to convert dynamic to basic partitioning .
[22:55] <DosTuMai> Yes, and unticked. I removed it from repositories.
[22:57] <daftykins> cool \o/
[22:57] <daftykins> a package list update should calm it down
[22:57] <daftykins> Bashing-om: mmm abi has no backup device so it might be scary
[22:58] <DosTuMai> apt-get upgrade returned: 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade. So yah. xD
[23:00] <daftykins> <o/ \o>
[23:00] <daftykins> gah that whole time i was concerned the dynamic disk would mess up abi there, but i was hoping it wouldn't :P
[23:00] <DosTuMai> I update every morning with breakfast. xD
[23:02] <daftykins> hehe
[23:02] <Bashing-om> daftykins:  http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html <-   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692248 .
[23:02] <DosTuMai> Always: coffee, update, upgrade, muesli, autoremove/
[23:03] <DosTuMai> Yey, reboot.
[23:03] <daftykins> ho-ho no ;) coffee, update, dist-upgrade ;D
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[23:14] <daftykins> :S
[23:15] <daftykins> i hope to find someone not enamoured by rocks and metals eventually
[23:17] <DosTuMai> I like a little sparkle, but never expect it. And I'm really picky. And hate receiving gifts.
[23:18] <daftykins> hehe
[23:19] <daftykins> was so cute before finding my little lass curled up beside the radiator, keeping warm :D
[23:19] <daftykins> cats ftw
[23:20] <DosTuMai> Mind you, I wont complain if I got a really nice bolt of cloth...
[23:23] <DosTuMai> I love my cat. She's a rescue cat and nuttier than a frootloop/
[23:24] <daftykins> :D
[23:25] <daftykins> a friend just had a cute kitty stroll up to their house and sneak in their garage, on taking her to the vets as they couldn't find a home, found she's pregnant
[23:25] <daftykins> prior she'd been all happy and affectionate, despite a house of 5 cats already :D clearly going "ah ha, hoomans like cat... i will be nice so you will assist my birthing"
[23:25] <DosTuMai> You got a kitten and your friend kept the mother?
[23:26] <daftykins> hehe nah this friend is in the US
[23:26] <DosTuMai> Ah, oki.
[23:29] <daftykins> my little one is a hand-me-down from my parents
[23:31] <DosTuMai> =]
[23:32] <daftykins> can you give Voyage a good hard slap, for me?
[23:32] <daftykins> 'tis the season.