=== berglh__ is now known as berglh [10:00] Hey guys, just finished installing ubuntu-gnome-14.04.3 LTS and was wonder why i cant drag my windows to one monitor, but to another i can. Hold for img. [10:02] http://imgur.com/IxyVShW cant drag to the green monitor, @ the top, below i can though. [10:03] must have something to do with the top notification/menu bar? [10:18] RepThis1, monitors vertical stacked? [10:18] with primary on bottom? [10:19] vertical stack with primary in center, like a wonderful oreo. [10:19] I think that is fixed in 15.10, but not something we can backport to 14.04 [10:20] damn, already hating ubuntu and wanting my fedora! [10:20] the titlebar has a strut, that blocks windows [10:20] damn you vmware! [10:20] its nothing to do with vmware [10:20] yeah figure it had sumin to do with that [10:20] darkxst: no but vmware has to do with me using gnome on ubuntu :D [10:21] or i should say using ubuntu. [10:21] then use the latest, you can't compare an UBuntu LTS release to fedora! [10:24] an old LTS release at that. [10:29] latest gnome or latest ubuntu? [10:29] latest ubuntu 15.10 or even 16.04 devel [10:30] lol.....idk, i mean i never tried the non lts cause it always seemed to give me monitor problems in the past. [10:31] even then this lts install didnt work as well as fedora did, fedora was effortless and beautiful. [10:32] monitor problems? [10:33] for 1, when i startup my machine i get 2 grey boxes on two screens for ~10seconds then it finally boots, also seems to reset my monitor placement as well. [10:33] when rearranging on 1-2 recent occasions it changes the background to some ugly blue background. [10:34] having a firefox issue, going to restart. [10:36] back. [10:36] maybe i will just have to deal with working with a horizontal monitor setup then. [10:37] ive lost like a day just messing with this stuff, frustrating. [10:41] I have never seen either of those issues, and the vertical issue was a long standing GNOME bug [10:41] and really without any context of what ubuntu/gnome versions I can't even help, other than to say gnome has evolved a long way since what is in 14.04 [10:42] what version is on 15.10, 3.18? [10:42] 3.16, but 3.18 is on gnome3-staging ppa [10:43] what is staging, like a beta. Not a big fan of stuff if it brings me instability, unless the aditions are quite nice. [10:45] at this point is pretty stable, it brings you GNOME 3.18 on 15.10 [10:46] during the development cycle, it can be less unstable (So Xenial series now) [10:46] s/less/more/ [10:54] Xenial is a codename? [10:55] yes, Xenial is to be 16.04 [10:55] oh your talking about ubuntu [10:56] that in itself should be mostly stable now, but gnome3-staging for xenial, will probably break soon [10:57] yeah, im not gonna mess with xenial considering i dont even know the process for reporting bugs so it would be futile. [10:58] anyway I have to go [10:58] darkxst: thx for the help, ill just try 15.10 as a last resort, otherwise f22 [11:07] oh damn...no vmware support for 15.10.... [11:08] RepThis1, 12.1 should work [11:08] 15.04 works, and theres a gnome release for it [11:08] can i put 3.18 on that from staging? [11:09] no [11:09] vmware 12.0 works with `env VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS=1 /usr/bin/vmware` [11:09] darkxst: im pretty sure though that hardware accelleration wont work if i do that, otherwise i wouldnt be here to begin with and still using f23 [11:11] it works [11:11] fedora had (still has) other issues in addition [11:12] 12.0 works but 12.1 wont? [11:13] 12.1 works with no hacks [11:13] on ubuntu, but not fedora [11:13] really gtg [11:14] k [12:43] what's the default password for ubuntu user on the Live cd? [13:36] Sicnus, blank, but the default user on the ubuntu-gnome livecd has username 'ubuntu-gnome', not 'ubuntu' [14:05] mgedmin, yeah.... figured out the username wasn't ubuntu but ubuntu-gnome