[10:00] <RepThis1> Hey guys, just finished installing ubuntu-gnome-14.04.3 LTS and was wonder why i cant drag my windows to one monitor, but to another i can. Hold for img.
[10:02] <RepThis1> http://imgur.com/IxyVShW cant drag to the green monitor, @ the top, below i can though.
[10:03] <RepThis1> must have something to do with the top notification/menu bar?
[10:18] <darkxst> RepThis1, monitors vertical stacked?
[10:18] <darkxst> with primary on bottom?
[10:19] <RepThis1> vertical stack with primary in center, like a wonderful oreo.
[10:19] <darkxst> I think that is fixed in 15.10, but not something we can backport to 14.04
[10:20] <RepThis1> damn, already hating ubuntu and wanting my fedora!
[10:20] <darkxst> the titlebar has a strut, that blocks windows
[10:20] <RepThis1> damn you vmware!
[10:20] <darkxst> its nothing to do with vmware
[10:20] <RepThis1> yeah figure it had sumin to do with that
[10:20] <RepThis1> darkxst: no but vmware has to do with me using gnome on ubuntu :D
[10:21] <RepThis1> or i should say using ubuntu.
[10:21] <darkxst> then use the latest, you can't compare an UBuntu LTS release to fedora!
[10:24] <darkxst> an old LTS release at that.
[10:29] <RepThis1> latest gnome or latest ubuntu?
[10:29] <darkxst> latest ubuntu 15.10 or even 16.04 devel
[10:30] <RepThis1> lol.....idk, i mean i never tried the non lts cause it always seemed to give me monitor problems in the past.
[10:31] <RepThis1> even then this lts install didnt work as well as fedora did, fedora was effortless and beautiful.
[10:32] <darkxst> monitor problems?
[10:33] <RepThis1> for 1, when i startup my machine i get 2 grey boxes on two screens for ~10seconds then it finally boots, also seems to reset my monitor placement as well.
[10:33] <RepThis1> when rearranging on 1-2 recent occasions it changes the background to some ugly blue background.
[10:34] <RepThis1> having a firefox issue, going to restart.
[10:36] <RepThis1> back.
[10:36] <RepThis1> maybe i will just have to deal with working with a horizontal monitor setup then.
[10:37] <RepThis1> ive lost like a day just messing with this stuff, frustrating.
[10:41] <darkxst> I have never seen either of those issues, and the vertical issue was a long standing GNOME bug
[10:41] <darkxst> and really without any context of what ubuntu/gnome versions I can't even help, other than to say gnome has evolved a long way since what is in 14.04
[10:42] <RepThis1> what version is on 15.10, 3.18?
[10:42] <darkxst> 3.16, but 3.18 is on gnome3-staging ppa
[10:43] <RepThis1> what is staging, like a beta. Not a big fan of stuff if it brings me instability, unless the aditions are quite nice.
[10:45] <darkxst> at this point is pretty stable, it brings you GNOME 3.18 on 15.10
[10:46] <darkxst> during the development cycle, it can be less unstable (So Xenial series now)
[10:46] <darkxst> s/less/more/
[10:54] <RepThis1> Xenial is a codename?
[10:55] <darkxst> yes, Xenial is to be 16.04
[10:55] <RepThis1> oh your talking about ubuntu
[10:56] <darkxst> that in itself should be mostly stable now, but gnome3-staging for xenial, will probably break soon
[10:57] <RepThis1> yeah, im not gonna mess with xenial considering i dont even know the process for reporting bugs so it would be futile.
[10:58] <darkxst> anyway I have to go
[10:58] <RepThis1> darkxst: thx for the help, ill just try 15.10 as a last resort, otherwise f22
[11:07] <RepThis1> oh damn...no vmware support for 15.10....
[11:08] <darkxst> RepThis1, 12.1 should work
[11:08] <RepThis1> 15.04 works, and theres a gnome release for it
[11:08] <RepThis1> can i put 3.18 on that from staging?
[11:09] <darkxst> no
[11:09] <darkxst> vmware 12.0 works with `env VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS=1 /usr/bin/vmware`
[11:09] <RepThis1> darkxst: im pretty sure though that hardware accelleration wont work if i do that, otherwise i wouldnt be here to begin with and still using f23
[11:11] <darkxst> it works
[11:11] <darkxst> fedora had (still has) other issues in addition
[11:12] <RepThis1> 12.0 works but 12.1 wont?
[11:13] <darkxst> 12.1 works with no hacks
[11:13] <darkxst> on ubuntu, but not fedora
[11:13] <darkxst> really gtg
[11:14] <RepThis1> k
[12:43] <Sicnus> what's the default password for ubuntu user on the Live cd?
[13:36] <mgedmin> Sicnus, blank, but the default user on the ubuntu-gnome livecd has username 'ubuntu-gnome', not 'ubuntu'
[14:05] <Sicnus> mgedmin, yeah.... figured out the username wasn't ubuntu but ubuntu-gnome