| awilkins_ | Ok looks like my second problem was : Ubuntu wasn't installed in EFI mode because my EFI boot partition wasn't marked with the "esp" flag | 00:05 |
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| awilkins_ | Apparently you need a lot of knowledge or actual ESP to find that out | 00:05 |
| awilkins_ | So Winders refused to share a drive with it because there was no ESP partition | 00:05 |
| daftykins | mmm i would think a clean EFI boot and a freshly made EFI boot partition would have had that handled by ubiquity fine | 00:06 |
| awilkins_ | Now reinstalling Ubuntu in UEFI mode, I hope | 00:06 |
| daftykins | i'd put Windows on first ;x | 00:06 |
| awilkins_ | Made the partitions in gparted | 00:06 |
| awilkins_ | I would have done too! | 00:06 |
| awilkins_ | But I was following an askubuntu question that advocates doing the Ubuntu bits first | 00:06 |
| daftykins | sorry i'm probably sounding a lot like captain hindsight this evening :( | 00:06 |
| awilkins_ | Nah, tis OK | 00:07 |
| awilkins_ | I'm learnign stuff | 00:08 |
| daftykins | guy in #ubuntu has a very modern asus gaming laptop that the M.2 Samsung PM951 SSD isn't even being detected in | 00:08 |
| daftykins | TJ the genius reckons it's another buggy BIOS on the ACPI bits | 00:09 |
| awilkins_ | Tell him to turn off the RAID controller | 00:10 |
| awilkins_ | I have an HP laptop with an m.2 card in it | 00:11 |
| awilkins_ | Wasn't properly detected until I turned off the Intel RAID in the BIOS | 00:11 |
| awilkins_ | Laptop came pre-configured with it as an acceleration disk in an Intel RST / Matrix RAID | 00:12 |
| awilkins_ | I carefully unenrolled it from the RST | 00:12 |
| awilkins_ | So I could back up the raw WIndows disk image | 00:12 |
| awilkins_ | on the spinning rust | 00:12 |
| awilkins_ | Then turned it off in the BIOS and used it as dm-cache volume | 00:13 |
| daftykins | the odd thing is both drives show up in Windows, normally those cacheing ones hide the SSD inside Windows? | 00:13 |
| awilkins_ | I can't remember | 00:14 |
| awilkins_ | OK, reinstalled Ubuntu in UEFI mode | 00:25 |
| awilkins_ | Huzzah | 00:25 |
| awilkins_ | Now the Windows 10 USB stick refuses to boot | 00:25 |
| * awilkins_ facepalms | 00:25 | |
| penguin42 | awilkins_: How did you back it up | 00:28 |
| * awilkins_ derps a bt | 00:28 | |
| awilkins_ | Wrong stick | 00:28 |
| penguin42 | haha | 00:28 |
| daftykins | 8D | 00:29 |
| daftykins | we can't blame windows for everything ;) | 00:29 |
| daftykins | oof i need to be in bed for an early cabling job again | 00:29 |
| daftykins | working patch panel \o/ | 00:29 |
| awilkins_ | Was trying to boot my backup | 00:30 |
| awilkins_ | stick | 00:30 |
| awilkins_ | YES | 00:32 |
| awilkins_ | It no longer refuses to install on my filthy Linux-infested disk | 00:32 |
| awilkins_ | Soon I will experience the multifarious joys of finding a bazillion driver downloads! | 00:33 |
| awilkins_ | Windows is doing some naughty things like squirting random data at my optical out | 00:37 |
| awilkins_ | My speakers are making crackly noises | 00:37 |
| daftykins | o0 | 00:40 |
| daftykins | must be probing you :> | 00:40 |
| daftykins | you won't have much to do at all in 10 land if your media is the 10586 build :> | 00:40 |
| awilkins_ | No idea | 00:44 |
| awilkins_ | Just turned off all but one of the optional settings | 00:45 |
| awilkins_ | Like "send all my browser history to MS" and "connect to wifi hotspots automatically so random strangers can 'spoit you" | 00:45 |
| awilkins_ | It's now on it's fourth reboot and second prolonged period of black screen that you dare not reset because it might break something | 00:46 |
| awilkins_ | Aha, a throbber... and actual questions | 00:47 |
| awilkins_ | "We're Happy That You're HWere" | 00:47 |
| awilkins_ | "Lots of great features to get excited about" | 00:48 |
| awilkins_ | The background is pulsating hypnotically | 00:48 |
| awilkins_ | SHARE AND ENJOY | 00:48 |
| awilkins_ | First things first | 00:50 |
| awilkins_ | GPU drivers | 00:50 |
| awilkins_ | Then I can use it in nonfuzzyvision | 00:50 |
| awilkins_ | As if by magic, it's also popped up a "display driver updated" notifier | 00:51 |
| daftykins | does all that itself these days :> | 00:51 |
| awilkins_ | I'll check the driver it's using.. | 00:52 |
| awilkins_ | But I'll probably still install the nvidia ones | 00:52 |
| awilkins_ | They have a nifty utily that configures all your games for maximum pretty | 00:52 |
| daftykins | eww i avoid experience entirely :> | 00:53 |
| daftykins | but then my desktop is so old now it's not up to playing much | 00:53 |
| awilkins_ | I have a 980Ti | 00:55 |
| daftykins | ooh | 00:55 |
| daftykins | 560Ti here :> | 00:55 |
| awilkins_ | It allows maximum pretty at 1980x1080 for basically everything I've thrown at it | 00:55 |
| awilkins_ | I had the 560Ti before that | 00:55 |
| daftykins | i should hope so, wasn't it the best part of £400 in tax land? | 00:55 |
| awilkins_ | Yeah | 00:56 |
| awilkins_ | Well, rahter more I think | 00:56 |
| awilkins_ | Was going to build a new system but I saw some benchmarks that said that my CPU really only made 4fps difference | 00:56 |
| awilkins_ | So just jammed more RAM in it and the new GPU | 00:57 |
| awilkins_ | Woo, start page is v.pretty | 00:57 |
| awilkins_ | Sound works | 00:59 |
| daftykins | how old? i'm still using a core 2 quad | 00:59 |
| diddledan | I'm in my thirties now, does that count? | 01:00 |
| awilkins_ | i7-2700K | 01:00 |
| diddledan | I think I'm still running an old 8088 :-( | 01:01 |
| diddledan | I also need a memory upgrade implant | 01:02 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Trust me, it gets worse | 01:04 |
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| daftykins | awilkins_: ah that's like the king of platforms that sandy generation :> | 01:17 |
| daftykins | wow that guy is locked to RAID mode in the BIOS and can't do a thing about that NVMe SSD - so that Asus laptop is totally suck on Windows | 01:24 |
| diddledan | o_O | 01:34 |
| diddledan | you can't turn off raid?! | 01:35 |
| diddledan | does that mean linux just cannot see your disks? | 01:35 |
| daftykins | yeah, TJ spotted that the kernel tries to enable it as an AHCI device instead of NVMe, fails, so only the 1TB mechanical and optical gets seen | 01:37 |
| daftykins | amazing | 01:37 |
| daftykins | heh i meant to say *stuck | 01:37 |
| penguin42 | ooh NVMe, new pain and fun | 01:38 |
| daftykins | indeed :> | 01:39 |
| daftykins | someone was in with one of those Dell XPS 13 9350s a bit ago too, i think it required a 4.3 mainline kernel to even see the thing | 01:39 |
| penguin42 | Dell tend to use standard but bleeding edge hardware | 01:40 |
| penguin42 | which is fair enough I mean if people make new whizzy hardware then you may as well sell it | 01:40 |
| daftykins | mmm, the samsung NVMe M.2 SSDs in (some of) those are pretty new | 01:40 |
| daftykins | M.2 drives are actually so small though that they suffer from thermal throttling | 01:40 |
| daftykins | i read this today, they benchmark a drive with and without a heatsink: http://anandtech.com/show/9856/angelbird-wings-px1-m2-adapter-review-do-ssds-need-heatsinks | 01:41 |
| penguin42 | wow | 01:41 |
| daftykins | in some modes, it doubles the speed | 01:41 |
| daftykins | ok i gotta sleep :) nn folks \o | 01:41 |
| penguin42 | double wow | 01:41 |
| penguin42 | nn | 01:42 |
| MartijnVdS | *reads Guardian front page* wow.. you have ginger extremists now? | 05:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | and all the buggers need do is wear a hat to hide in normal society!! | 05:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | BAN HATS!! | 05:42 |
| MartijnVdS | 👍 | 05:42 |
| diddledan | what's chris evans up to now? | 05:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | running ginger propaganda show on tv i think | 05:43 |
| diddledan | it's nearly time to wake up I guess | 05:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | but as stupid as this story is a lot of ginger kids will get bullied more because of it :-/ | 05:50 |
| mapps | morning | 06:46 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: : I think that was only a few eps, he's on radio 2 at the moment | 08:45 |
| diddledan | is it christmas yet? | 09:40 |
| Myrtti | I wish | 09:42 |
| MooDoo | not till tomorrow at 2pm, then I can start enjoying it | 09:43 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:31 |
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| DJones | diddledan: Ony a day and half to go, and you know what that means......Only 2.5 days till you can start buying easter eggs | 12:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | some shops already have them in | 12:37 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:38 |
| diddledan | eggylicious | 12:38 |
| brobostigon | eggtacular | 12:40 |
| Myrtti | back when I was a kid, Kinder eggs were available only for Easter | 12:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | for us that was cadbury creme eggs but they lasted on shelves for longer and longer till they were all year round | 12:41 |
| penguin42 | there's a Spar in Manc that was still selling them a couple of months back | 12:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | this year they changed the recipie and are supposed to be icky | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | worse, they changed the chocolate, which was the only nice bit.... | 12:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | lets take something that people have fond memories off and change it... | 12:44 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: you're not supposed to eat the toy | 12:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | the toys in kinder now are terrible... silly plastic models instead of toys you had to assemble like in 80s | 12:55 |
| diddledan | I remember pining after the terrapins back in the 90s | 12:59 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: I thought we wre talking about the cadburys eggs | 13:00 |
| foobarry | git push | 14:41 |
| foobarry | and i'm done | 14:41 |
| MooDoo | nic | 14:43 |
| MooDoo | nice | 14:43 |
| diddledan | foobarry, finished for xmas now? | 14:45 |
| MooDoo | I'm not till 2pm omorrow | 14:50 |
| dogmatic69 | hi all | 21:40 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone got an idea how I can manually give a user sudo? Doing it via live disk so there is no useradd etc. | 21:41 |
| dogmatic69 | need to do it with nano | 21:41 |
| dogmatic69 | :( | 21:43 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: two ways, either edit the /etc/sudoers (or /etc/sudoers.d) or add the user to wheel | 21:47 |
| dogmatic69 | well was thinking to add the user to wheel group | 21:48 |
| dogmatic69 | but cant find anything on where to do it, and what the format is.. I assume its /etc/group | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | right, it's easy | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | or it would be if there was a wheel group anymore... | 21:49 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: Is there a wheel line in /etc/group ? | 21:49 |
| dogmatic69 | its fedora btw | 21:49 |
| penguin42 | not a problem | 21:49 |
| dogmatic69 | and there is a wheel:x:10:otheruser | 21:50 |
| dogmatic69 | and the wheel thing is in sudoers file | 21:50 |
| penguin42 | ok, so add a ,youruser to the end of that | 21:50 |
| dogmatic69 | just :me | 21:50 |
| dogmatic69 | ? | 21:50 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69: If you want to keep the other user also able to do it then make it wheel:x:10:otheruser,me or wheel:x:10:me | 21:51 |
| dogmatic69 | ye need the other one | 21:51 |
| dogmatic69 | ok, I will try that. fingers crossed... | 21:51 |
| dogmatic69 | penguin42: thanks, worked great | 21:57 |
| penguin42 | np | 21:58 |
| daftykins | kinda weird you'd come here for fedora help | 22:01 |
| penguin42 | the even weirder question is wth the wheel group has gone on ubuntu | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i didn't even know one was called that | 22:04 |
| daftykins | isn't it admin now? | 22:04 |
| daftykins | ah no admin was old, 'sudo' is its own | 22:05 |
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