[00:05] Ok looks like my second problem was : Ubuntu wasn't installed in EFI mode because my EFI boot partition wasn't marked with the "esp" flag [00:05] Apparently you need a lot of knowledge or actual ESP to find that out [00:05] So Winders refused to share a drive with it because there was no ESP partition [00:06] mmm i would think a clean EFI boot and a freshly made EFI boot partition would have had that handled by ubiquity fine [00:06] Now reinstalling Ubuntu in UEFI mode, I hope [00:06] i'd put Windows on first ;x [00:06] Made the partitions in gparted [00:06] I would have done too! [00:06] But I was following an askubuntu question that advocates doing the Ubuntu bits first [00:06] sorry i'm probably sounding a lot like captain hindsight this evening :( [00:07] Nah, tis OK [00:08] I'm learnign stuff [00:08] guy in #ubuntu has a very modern asus gaming laptop that the M.2 Samsung PM951 SSD isn't even being detected in [00:09] TJ the genius reckons it's another buggy BIOS on the ACPI bits [00:10] Tell him to turn off the RAID controller [00:11] I have an HP laptop with an m.2 card in it [00:11] Wasn't properly detected until I turned off the Intel RAID in the BIOS [00:12] Laptop came pre-configured with it as an acceleration disk in an Intel RST / Matrix RAID [00:12] I carefully unenrolled it from the RST [00:12] So I could back up the raw WIndows disk image [00:12] on the spinning rust [00:13] Then turned it off in the BIOS and used it as dm-cache volume [00:13] the odd thing is both drives show up in Windows, normally those cacheing ones hide the SSD inside Windows? [00:14] I can't remember [00:25] OK, reinstalled Ubuntu in UEFI mode [00:25] Huzzah [00:25] Now the Windows 10 USB stick refuses to boot [00:25] * awilkins_ facepalms [00:28] awilkins_: How did you back it up [00:28] * awilkins_ derps a bt [00:28] Wrong stick [00:28] haha [00:29] 8D [00:29] we can't blame windows for everything ;) [00:29] oof i need to be in bed for an early cabling job again [00:29] working patch panel \o/ [00:30] Was trying to boot my backup [00:30] stick [00:32] YES [00:32] It no longer refuses to install on my filthy Linux-infested disk [00:33] Soon I will experience the multifarious joys of finding a bazillion driver downloads! [00:37] Windows is doing some naughty things like squirting random data at my optical out [00:37] My speakers are making crackly noises [00:40] o0 [00:40] must be probing you :> [00:40] you won't have much to do at all in 10 land if your media is the 10586 build :> [00:44] No idea [00:45] Just turned off all but one of the optional settings [00:45] Like "send all my browser history to MS" and "connect to wifi hotspots automatically so random strangers can 'spoit you" [00:46] It's now on it's fourth reboot and second prolonged period of black screen that you dare not reset because it might break something [00:47] Aha, a throbber... and actual questions [00:47] "We're Happy That You're HWere" [00:48] "Lots of great features to get excited about" [00:48] The background is pulsating hypnotically [00:48] SHARE AND ENJOY [00:50] First things first [00:50] GPU drivers [00:50] Then I can use it in nonfuzzyvision [00:51] As if by magic, it's also popped up a "display driver updated" notifier [00:51] does all that itself these days :> [00:52] I'll check the driver it's using.. [00:52] But I'll probably still install the nvidia ones [00:52] They have a nifty utily that configures all your games for maximum pretty [00:53] eww i avoid experience entirely :> [00:53] but then my desktop is so old now it's not up to playing much [00:55] I have a 980Ti [00:55] ooh [00:55] 560Ti here :> [00:55] It allows maximum pretty at 1980x1080 for basically everything I've thrown at it [00:55] I had the 560Ti before that [00:55] i should hope so, wasn't it the best part of £400 in tax land? [00:56] Yeah [00:56] Well, rahter more I think [00:56] Was going to build a new system but I saw some benchmarks that said that my CPU really only made 4fps difference [00:57] So just jammed more RAM in it and the new GPU [00:57] Woo, start page is v.pretty [00:59] Sound works [00:59] how old? i'm still using a core 2 quad [01:00] I'm in my thirties now, does that count? [01:00] i7-2700K [01:01] I think I'm still running an old 8088 :-( [01:02] I also need a memory upgrade implant [01:04] diddledan: Trust me, it gets worse === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:17] awilkins_: ah that's like the king of platforms that sandy generation :> [01:24] wow that guy is locked to RAID mode in the BIOS and can't do a thing about that NVMe SSD - so that Asus laptop is totally suck on Windows [01:34] o_O [01:35] you can't turn off raid?! [01:35] does that mean linux just cannot see your disks? [01:37] yeah, TJ spotted that the kernel tries to enable it as an AHCI device instead of NVMe, fails, so only the 1TB mechanical and optical gets seen [01:37] amazing [01:37] heh i meant to say *stuck [01:38] ooh NVMe, new pain and fun [01:39] indeed :> [01:39] someone was in with one of those Dell XPS 13 9350s a bit ago too, i think it required a 4.3 mainline kernel to even see the thing [01:40] Dell tend to use standard but bleeding edge hardware [01:40] which is fair enough I mean if people make new whizzy hardware then you may as well sell it [01:40] mmm, the samsung NVMe M.2 SSDs in (some of) those are pretty new [01:40] M.2 drives are actually so small though that they suffer from thermal throttling [01:41] i read this today, they benchmark a drive with and without a heatsink: http://anandtech.com/show/9856/angelbird-wings-px1-m2-adapter-review-do-ssds-need-heatsinks [01:41] wow [01:41] in some modes, it doubles the speed [01:41] ok i gotta sleep :) nn folks \o [01:41] double wow [01:42] nn [05:39] *reads Guardian front page* wow.. you have ginger extremists now? [05:42] and all the buggers need do is wear a hat to hide in normal society!! [05:42] BAN HATS!! [05:42] 👍 [05:43] what's chris evans up to now? [05:43] running ginger propaganda show on tv i think [05:50] it's nearly time to wake up I guess [05:50] but as stupid as this story is a lot of ginger kids will get bullied more because of it :-/ [06:46] morning [08:45] morning all [08:45] diddledan: : I think that was only a few eps, he's on radio 2 at the moment [09:40] is it christmas yet? [09:42] I wish [09:43] not till tomorrow at 2pm, then I can start enjoying it === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:31] morning boys and girls. === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [12:36] diddledan: Ony a day and half to go, and you know what that means......Only 2.5 days till you can start buying easter eggs [12:37] some shops already have them in [12:38] \o/ [12:38] eggylicious [12:40] eggtacular [12:40] back when I was a kid, Kinder eggs were available only for Easter [12:41] for us that was cadbury creme eggs but they lasted on shelves for longer and longer till they were all year round [12:42] there's a Spar in Manc that was still selling them a couple of months back [12:43] this year they changed the recipie and are supposed to be icky [12:44] worse, they changed the chocolate, which was the only nice bit.... [12:44] lets take something that people have fond memories off and change it... [12:55] penguin42: you're not supposed to eat the toy [12:55] the toys in kinder now are terrible... silly plastic models instead of toys you had to assemble like in 80s [12:59] I remember pining after the terrapins back in the 90s [13:00] ali1234: I thought we wre talking about the cadburys eggs [14:41] git push [14:41] and i'm done [14:43] nic [14:43] nice [14:45] foobarry, finished for xmas now? [14:50] I'm not till 2pm omorrow [21:40] hi all [21:41] anyone got an idea how I can manually give a user sudo? Doing it via live disk so there is no useradd etc. [21:41] need to do it with nano [21:43] :( [21:47] dogmatic69: two ways, either edit the /etc/sudoers (or /etc/sudoers.d) or add the user to wheel [21:48] well was thinking to add the user to wheel group [21:48] but cant find anything on where to do it, and what the format is.. I assume its /etc/group [21:48] right, it's easy [21:49] or it would be if there was a wheel group anymore... [21:49] dogmatic69: Is there a wheel line in /etc/group ? [21:49] its fedora btw [21:49] not a problem [21:50] and there is a wheel:x:10:otheruser [21:50] and the wheel thing is in sudoers file [21:50] ok, so add a ,youruser to the end of that [21:50] just :me [21:50] ? [21:51] dogmatic69: If you want to keep the other user also able to do it then make it wheel:x:10:otheruser,me or wheel:x:10:me [21:51] ye need the other one [21:51] ok, I will try that. fingers crossed... [21:57] penguin42: thanks, worked great [21:58] np [22:01] kinda weird you'd come here for fedora help [22:02] the even weirder question is wth the wheel group has gone on ubuntu [22:04] i didn't even know one was called that [22:04] isn't it admin now? [22:05] ah no admin was old, 'sudo' is its own === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away