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pieter2627morning all04:51
superflyZzzzz06:14
magellanicmornings06:14
Symmetriaheh anyone here use rtorrent?06:38
magellanicnope06:39
thatgraemeguytested it many moons ago but settled on deluge because $reasons06:39
Symmetriathatgraemeguy lol06:39
Symmetriacheck this out06:39
Symmetria[Throttle off/off KB] [Rate 242.3/198909.2 KB] [Port: 23506]                       [U 2/0] [D 79/0] [H 0/32] [S 7/163/768] [F 96/128]06:39
Symmetria:P at that point my poor harddrive I was leeching to went "screw this, I cant write that fast"06:39
thatgraemeguyoops06:40
thatgraemeguytime for that 48-bay SSD array :D06:40
SymmetriaLOL, that or just get an SSD for leeching to and move shit off it when Im done06:41
magellanicor leech slower :p06:41
Symmetriathe problem is torrenting to an SSD can severely hurt the drive, SSD's dont really like massive numbers of writes 06:41
Symmetriamagellanic blasphemy06:41
Symmetria;p06:41
thatgraemeguypretty sure that isn't the case with modern SSDs06:41
magellanicaren't they meant for lots of writes, with their huge iops06:42
Symmetriamagellanic heh yes, but they have limited life span06:47
Symmetriaif you keep writing to them 06:47
Kilosmorning thatgraemeguy superfly inetpro grumbug magellanic pieter2627 TinuvaMac totimkopf and all others07:01
thatgraemeguylo lo07:03
superflyKilos: morning sleepy head 07:08
magellanicsup Kilos 07:09
Kiloshaha ive already sprayed weed killer on dubbeltjies over a large area07:09
Kilosand taken sheep to pasture07:09
Kilosgonna be hot again today07:09
KilosMaaz forecast pretoria07:09
MaazKilos: Wednesday: Clear. High: 35° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 19° C., Thursday: Clear. High: 37° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 20° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 34° C., Friday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 32° C., Saturday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Chance of a07:10
MaazThunderstorm. High: 31° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Monda…07:10
Kiloshttp://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=726&m=746&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=18070&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/150447-tesla-powerwall-in-sa-how-much-it-costs-and-when-you-can-buy-it.html07:11
Kilosnot just eskoms unreliability but the cost of electricity thats making such an investment look worthwhile07:12
Symmetriaheh overpriced if you ask me07:19
magellanicstill a huge figure to fork out for just the battery, then the panels etc etc07:20
SymmetriaI run a 8kVA genset with a 5kVA inverter and a battery bank 07:20
Symmetriaand it cost me less ;p07:20
Symmetriayou can put in a 4KVA inverter with batteries for well less than 2k 07:21
Kiloscost of fuel there most likely less than here Symmetria 07:26
Kilosi think we are over R14 a litre07:26
MaNIpowerwall is a terrible investment07:42
MaNIcould spend that money on less batteries and some solar panels, much better investment07:43
MaNIplenty of other LiFePO batteries out there as well - theres nothing actually special about powerwall, just an expensive pretty looking version marketed at folks with too much money07:45
Symmetriaheh ANY batteries are going to be expensive, its just that that one, is a lot more expensive07:47
Symmetria;p07:47
SymmetriaI run solar on the waterheaters here, the rest I run on mains / fall back to genset and inverter when power goes 07:48
Symmetriapurely because realistically, the number of panels I would need woul be problematic ;p07:48
SymmetriaI use a SHITLOAD of power at home07:49
mazalMornings07:59
MaNIyou don't need to go 100% solar you know, thats the fallacy most people make08:00
MaNIaiming for e.g. 50% being provided by solar is more economical/realistic08:01
MaNI(especially with ZA's tiered pricing of electricity)08:01
thatgraemeguyI want to start out with converting my lighting to 12V DC08:02
thatgraemeguysometime08:02
thatgraemeguysolar water heating too08:02
thatgraemeguysometime08:02
MaNII've started with lighting/computers/monitors/network equipment etc. - already knocked a huge amount off my bill, once I wire in water heating as well it will be profit all the way08:03
MaNIif the power fails all I really lose is the oven/fridge/vacuum (and stuff like that) which is not a big deal anyway08:04
magellanicMaNI: what did the setup for this cost if you don't mind me asking? and how much do you save?08:04
magellanicI am also keen to start at the lights08:05
magellanicMaNI: you loose the geyser too right? :p08:05
MaNImagellanic, yeah but its stores heat for ages so thats not a big deal, also that will be wired in next as a dump load so soon I won't lose that either08:05
MaNImagellanic, I've spent in total around 25k - my electricity bill is down to about R800 from R1200 - I'm still wasting a lot of my panel output though, once I dump that to the geyset my bill will probably be around R300 (at an estimate)08:06
magellanicI use a gas stove along side the electric, lights/pc/network are my biggest issue I think08:07
MaNII actually view any profit as a bonus - as if I did not go this route I would have anyway had to sink ~R20k on a generator or giant UPS of some kind08:07
magellanicyeah08:07
MaNIso any cost reduction from it is really a bonus in that sense 08:07
MaNImost of the savings are from the pc's - the lights are actually tiny in comparison08:08
magellaniccool. I will look into it again08:08
magellanicheh there is quite a bit of rage about the price in the comments of that article too08:13
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squish1025 year ROI MaNI14:58
MaNIif viewed as an investment yeah14:58
MaNIif viewed as "I would have had to spend that money anyway on a generator or UPS" - its actually pure profit all the way14:59
MaNIeither way its good in my books14:59
squish102and that powerwall are for ppl they buy iPhones, cuz they cool14:59
MaNIsounds about right15:00
squish102i also thought the eskom problems were over, hasnt it been awhile since power outages?15:00
MaNIif you exclude the 3 entire sundays of "municipal maintenance" we have had in the area over the last 4 months - then yeah its been a while, but only because of a reduction in demand, when (if?) our economy recovers again it would be naive not to expect more of the same15:02
squish102i wonder is slack is the next replacement for irc15:02
squish102they should open source slack15:03
MaNII sure hope not - much prefer IRC15:03
MaNImaybe someone will actually improve IRC at some point, that would be grand15:03
squish102MaNI: u old school, stop living in the past :P15:04
Kiloslol15:05
Kilosirc works fine15:05
squish102dunno what will change the dieing trend of irc15:06
squish102last 10 years has been all downhill15:06
MaNInot entirely true15:06
MaNIonly for networks that aren't freenode15:06
Kilosalready many are using G+ fb and twitter rather than irc15:06
Kilosbut sheep are sheep15:07
MaNIhttp://royal.pingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/irc.003.jpg15:07
Kilosone leads and others follow15:07
MaNIhttp://royal.pingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/irc.002.jpg15:07
MaNIits just lost out on a few side niches - like gaming, flirt chats and warez - and has consolidated in its original niche of technical chat15:08
MaNIwhich while not ideal - is not terrible either15:08
Wolfeyesevening all18:10
Kiloshi Wolfeyes 18:11
Kilosyou winning?18:11
Wolfeyeswinning with clients slowly18:13
Wolfeyesbut the heat was a killer today18:14
Kilostomorrow worse18:17
LangjanHey Kilos  whats news?19:08
Kilosstill nothing Langjan 19:08
Kilosvery frustrating19:09
Kilosnow they most likely close over Christmas19:09
LangjanEish man, did you complain big time to the High Commissioner?19:09
Kilosi mailed with my info19:10
LangjanMaybe tickets will get cheaper soon...19:10
Kilostried foning but auto trply thing drove me mad and wasted airtime19:10
Kilosthats the only upside.  it can only get cheaper now19:11
Kiloswhen i ever get there one day ill speak to them about their feedback weakness19:12
LangjanI see Emirates are already advertising some good deals, mainly to Europe and Emirates but Oz should also improve, however the Rand is not helping.     19:12
Kilosdont wanna rock the boat yet19:12
Kilosrand is inna bad way19:12
Kilosty zuma19:12
Kiloshe should go back to herding cattle19:13
LangjanThe ID 10 T syndrome19:13
Kilosyip19:13
Kilosit was all planned im sure19:13
Kilosmany peeps made fortunes with it19:13
Kilosthink about buying 50 mil before than crash and selling now19:14
Kilosmoney for jam19:14
Kilosand selling that much will dop value again19:15
Kiloseverything is crooked19:15
LangjanAgreed, you think the man is capable of herding cattle? 19:15
Kilosf someone is behind him with a sjambok ja19:15
LangjanMugabe does it, has been for ages, why not Zuma also?19:16
Kilosyip19:16
LangjanManey-laundering19:16
LangjanMoney19:16
Kilosgonna be fun watching the idle rich when money crashes19:16
Kilosmany will splat on sidewalks out of highrise buildings19:17
Kiloseasier just to vacuum up then anyway19:17
LangjanCheck this out and take them on: https://www.border.gov.au/about/access-accountability/service-standards19:19
Kiloswill do ty19:19
Kilosoh ive read that a few times19:20
Kiloswith a smirk on my face19:20
Kilossales talk19:20
Kilosthey dont give anyway to contact them directly19:21
Kilosnext week ill get a friend there to fone one of the ministers agai as he did 4 years ago19:22
Kilosthey took 2 years with last application19:22
Kilosim sure they think im a risk to their security19:24
Kilosso things get lost19:25
Kiloslast time they foned and apologised and made many excuses19:25
Kilosand im falling asleep again19:26
KilosLangjan ty for caring, i have to sleep now19:26
Kilossee you tomorrow again19:26
Kilosstay safe and well19:26
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:27
LangjanSlaap lekker Kilos 19:27
Kilosdankie oom , julle ook19:28
LangjanDankie en sterkte, alles sal regkom...19:28
Kilosons hoop maar so dankie baie19:28
Sxuzahi all 20:28
Sxuzai need some help with LTE CPE B593 modem  - Telkom 20:28

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