[02:45] <Delemas> Is there any way to see "journalctl -xe" output on failed upgrade root? I tried upgrading a server from 15.04 to 15.10 and it turned itself off at 85% done resulting in an unbootable mess.
[02:46] <Delemas> Neither chooting to /mnt/root/@_failed_upgrade before running journalctl -xe nor using jornalctl --root option see the old files...
[04:03] <mafoelffen> when is the next scheduled server team meeting?
[09:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:05] <ren0v0> why does php5 install apache2...
[11:09] <maxb> Because that's the default (first) implementation listed in the Depends line
[11:10] <maxb> Install some other variant and uninstall apache2, if you want
[11:12] <lordievader> Console only php ain't possible?
[11:27] <Ben64> php5-cli
[11:32] <lordievader> ren0v0: Install ^ if you just want php.
[11:32] <andol> Or some other package, depending on what context you want to use php.
[11:32] <andol> Example php5-cgi or php5-fpm
[11:52] <ren0v0> Ben64, lordievader thanks
[11:52] <ren0v0> maxb, it shouldn't have deps, should it
[11:53] <ren0v0> it doesn't depend on apache2, i don't know why its installed with it
[12:20] <ren0v0> Does anyone know if php5-fpm service should always be running once started? i assume so, just that mind is stopping itself right away, and i have nothing in its logs t say there is an issue, and i've turned logging level to debug
[16:04] <coreycb> EmilienM, everything is in xenial-proposed right now except for neutron-vpnaas, murano, murano-dashboard, and aodh which are just waiting on a sponsor to upload
[16:05] <coreycb> EmilienM, a little work is left to get everything backported to trusty-xenial-proposed
[16:37] <EmilienM> coreycb: yeah, our CI is running LTS, trusty for now
[16:37] <EmilienM> coreycb: do you know when ~ can I run mitaka on trusty?
[18:44] <jvwjgames> Is there a way to reinstall the networking in Ubuntu server 14.04
[18:45] <tsimonq2> +1
[18:45] <ikonia> why do you need to re-install it ?
[18:45] <ikonia> as the common sense approach would be to re-install the package
[18:45]  * tsimonq2 uninstalled network packages once and it would be good to know how to recover them
[18:45] <ikonia> what do you mean recover them
[18:45] <ikonia> you just install the packages you want
[18:45] <tsimonq2> but you can't if networking is gone
[18:45] <ikonia> if you uninstall them and want them back, reinstall the package you just removed
[18:46] <ikonia> you can, download them and move them on , or manually configure your networking temporary
[18:50] <jvwjgames> My networking keeps on cutting out and I know it is not my internet it is my server
[18:50] <jvwjgames> That's why I need to reinstall networking
[18:50] <jvwjgames> Also if I have static ip's do I really need network manager
[18:50] <ikonia> jvwjgames: that is not a solution
[18:51] <ikonia> jvwjgames: your network keeps dropping so you'll re-install network manager ???
[18:51] <ikonia> that is not debugging or a solution, thats just random guessing
[18:51] <jvwjgames> I have checked everything though that I can think of
[18:52] <ikonia> why do you think it's network manager ?
[18:52] <ikonia> what suggests it is
[18:53] <jvwjgames> I don't think that but I just thought that if I refreshed it it would help
[18:53] <ikonia> why would it help ?
[18:53] <ikonia> reinstalling a bit of software thats working fine
[18:53] <ikonia> what benifit will that do ?
[18:54] <ikonia> why don't you focus on understanding what's going on
[18:54] <jvwjgames> I am trying to
[18:55] <ikonia> ok - what have you learnt as fact so far
[18:55] <jvwjgames> My /etc/network/interfaces file is correct
[18:56] <jvwjgames> My IP routes are fine
[18:56] <ikonia> well you shouldn't be using that if you're using network manager
[18:56] <ikonia> so I think we've found one problems straight away
[18:56] <ikonia> you've configured the networking file and network manager
[18:56] <ikonia> that will create a conflict
[18:56] <jvwjgames> Ok
[18:56] <ikonia> ( a conflict that should be managed to be fair - but often doesn't )
[18:56] <jvwjgames> So then yes uninstall network manager
[18:56] <ikonia> if you don't want network manager, sure
[18:58] <jvwjgames> How would that create a conflict
[18:58] <ikonia> jvwjgames: so the legacy scripts will parse the networking file and configure the interface, while network manager will also want to create/manage the interface
[18:58] <ikonia> network manager "should" ignore the interfaces file if it's populated, but that doesn't always work
[18:59] <jvwjgames> Ah Ok
[19:00] <jvwjgames> Well I nuked network manager I am crossing my fingers I will still have connectivity
[19:01] <ikonia> if your interfaces file is correct, you should have zero issue
[19:03] <jvwjgames> Interfaces failed to come up
[19:03] <ikonia> ok - so walk the init process,
[19:03] <ikonia> try bringing it up manually
[19:07] <jvwjgames> OK I think they are up but no network connectivity
[19:08] <ikonia> then they are not up
[19:08] <ikonia> or you have a serious problem with your network
[19:09] <jvwjgames> http://picpaste.com/pics/IMAG0250-ZQCQ3fnS.1450984161.jpg
[19:10] <ikonia> thats a file
[19:10] <ikonia> that doesn't show if they are up or their status
[19:13] <jvwjgames> http://picpaste.com/pics/IMAG0251-4jn39e3q.1450984381.jpg
[19:14] <ikonia> jvwjgames: so that means it's got a static IP address, is the inteface actually up, can it talk to anything else at an IP level ?
[19:19] <jvwjgames> http://picpaste.com/pics/IMAG0253-myXabBbX.1450984739.jpg
[19:20] <ikonia> there you go then
[19:20] <ikonia> it's up and working on the network
[19:22] <jvwjgames> But as you can see it can't get out to the internet
[19:24] <ikonia> because your firewall is blocking it
[19:24] <jvwjgames> No firewall on the network
[19:24] <ikonia> you can see it's getting to your firewall and the firewall is blocking the next hop
[19:25] <jvwjgames> That domain I assigned by Comcast
[19:25] <ikonia> not sure what thats got to do with anything ?
[19:25] <jvwjgames> That is the interface that is still on the local network
[19:26] <ikonia> what ?
[19:30] <jvwjgames> Meaning that interface is on my server I am pinging from
[19:30] <ikonia> jvwjgames: it's still trying to get out of that device
[19:31] <ikonia> look at the gateway that device is trying to use
[19:31] <ikonia> it's clear DNS is working as it's getting IP's so it's on the network
[19:31] <ikonia> I suspect your router/firewall is screwed
[19:31] <ikonia> routing / firewal
[19:31] <ikonia> firewall
[19:43] <jvwjgames> The only thing is I don't have a router on the servers network
[19:43] <jvwjgames> And the modem is in pass-through mode
[19:43] <ikonia> there must be a gateway to connect you to the internet
[19:45] <jvwjgames> The gateway is on 96.92.80.222 so the gateway is on Comcast side
[19:45] <ikonia> it still has to reach that gateway to get out onto the internet
[19:49] <jvwjgames> True
[19:50] <jvwjgames> That's weird I can ping and traceroute to 222 but can't get past that
[19:51] <ikonia> what is 222 ?
[19:52] <jvwjgames> The gateway
[19:52] <ikonia> ok, so if you can reach the gateway but can't get past it, that suggests it's blocking icmp
[19:53] <jvwjgames> But if I try to do apt it says can't connect
[19:54] <ikonia> ok - so if you can get to the gateway but the gateway won't let you out, the gateway is the problem
[19:55] <jvwjgames> OK
[19:56] <jvwjgames> But one last thing I have other devices that can reach the internet on the same modem
[19:56] <ikonia> what is their gateway ?
[20:26] <jvwjgames> Sorry about that
[20:26] <jvwjgames> There gateway is also 96.92.80.222
[20:35] <jvwjgames> Plus my mac works and it is staticly assigned with 96.92.80.222
[20:49] <jvwjgames> ikonia: uh-oh oh no this is bad I think
[21:04] <ikonia> jvwjgames: ?