[00:00] <Voyage> MonkeyDust,  did that a dozen times
[00:00] <curlyears> hey there, MonkeyDust/me has a webcam that needs to hve it's mounting clamp removed so it can be inserted into his 3D scanner, but I A) don't have small enough screwdrivers, and B)  my hands don't work so well, tnad those screws are TINY
[00:00] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: o.0 what?
[00:00] <linuxApprentice> dafuq
[00:01] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: !topic
[00:01] <linuxApprentice> curlyears:  /topic
[00:01] <curlyears> linuxApprentice: well, the "create an install" tool TOLD me it waa successful.  What the 8&^%&^%) did *I* do wrong?
[00:01] <linuxApprentice> curlyears:  you attempted to use the 'create an install' tool.
[00:01] <curlyears> I didn't "attempt" I *DID* use the tool
[00:01] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  you've been struggling for days now... what was you initial issue?
[00:02] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: use this tool! http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:02] <linuxApprentice> curlyears:  download, install, use
[00:02] <Voyage> how to install an older skype via repos?
[00:02] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: I ran the update push from ubuntu for update level 16.57, and it trashed my HDD...couldn't boot anymore
[00:03] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: the download link is at the bottom, big blue button
[00:03] <quarters> hello.  I'm planning on upgrading my RAM from 8GB to 16GB.  Would the swap space need to be 2x the amount of physical RAM or is that a dated equation?
[00:03] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: you don't update ubuntu! This isn't Debian!!!
[00:03] <daftykins> quarters: only if it'd ever be full - and you use sleep/hibernate
[00:03] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  and nobody knows what you mean by this '16.57'
[00:03] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: see the link I gave ya? Make Haste!
[00:04] <linuxApprentice> if only windows had 'dd' :-/
[00:04] <linuxApprentice> or even an equivalent!
[00:04] <daftykins> doesn't need one really, but it can have one just fine :)
[00:05] <curlyears> no good, that's a Winblows program, I am Live CD booted under 14.04.2
[00:05] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: myMy
[00:05] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: open a terminal then...
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  backup personal data, fresh install ubuntu 14.04.3, done
[00:05] <curlyears> I have a term open...what should I do?
[00:05] <quarters> daftykins: yikes. so I may need a 32gb swap partition if I plan to use suspend/hibernate
[00:06] <curlyears> I am trying to fresh install 14/04/3 from the USB installer, but it  is erroring out!
[00:06] <zykotick9> quarters: you don't need x2 ram to hibernate - just RAM + a little
[00:06] <daftykins> quarters: oh my bad i should've paid more attention. no, 16GB would be fine as long as you never go into swap
[00:06] <cmdswitch> curlyears, do you really need 3TB?
[00:06] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  then you're doing it wrong, somehow... i wonder how it can fail, basic installation takes 15 minutes
[00:07] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: sudo dd if=path-to-ubuntuISO of=/dev/sdx
[00:07] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: +1
[00:07] <daftykins> linuxApprentice: i've already gone over that but must've gotten ignored
[00:07] <linuxApprentice> daftykins: oh...
[00:07] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: put down the pipe and attend to instruction! Make Haste!
[00:07] <curlyears> cmdswitch: I don't know if I NEED, 3TB, but I have two of them, and I have a 500GB drive loaded with 3d print .stl files that won't let me install anything
[00:08] <quarters> zykotick9: can I get away w/even just 1x ram?
[00:08] <daftykins> curlyears: you did hash the ISO right? like i said earlier?
[00:08] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: you have too many problems. single ONE OUT and focus on solving it!
[00:08] <zykotick9> quarters: maybe... depends on how much ram you are actually using when you try to hibernate.
[00:08] <curlyears> linuxApprentice: OK...I'll do that, except I'll have to d/l a new iso image
[00:08] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: me and daftykins just informed you how to create the install stick from the iso!
[00:09] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: why would you need to re-download the ISO?
[00:09] <quarters> zykotick9: whcih I can probably observe in top
[00:09] <quarters> ?
[00:09] <zykotick9> quarters: yup.
[00:09] <quarters> or is there an app that observes the avg amount of ram I use
[00:09] <quarters> like across sessions
[00:09] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: wow, dude. just grab a 16oz BallPin Hammer and go at it!!!
[00:09] <quarters> since installation
[00:09] <curlyears> linuxApprentice: because after the laast d/l, I closed the system down to boot from the USB, which faildd.  I am in a Live -CD boot from 14.04.2
[00:10] <daftykins> curlyears: why aren't you storing it to writable media...
[00:10] <linuxApprentice> he must be extraordinarily Daft!
[00:10] <curlyears> I am beginnning to feel heavily disrespected here )-:
[00:11] <linuxApprentice> curlyears: windows 10 just came out.....
[00:11] <cmdswitch> curlyears, f.o.c.u.s. - follow one course until successful.
[00:11] <linuxApprentice> lol
[00:11] <curlyears> dafykins  I don't have any available, other than the USB I am trying to make an installer, and my HDD, which will get wiped clean when I successfullty install!
[00:11] <daftykins> mount it and download to there, then hash the ISO
[00:12] <daftykins> if you skip this advice, there is no helping you
[00:12] <curlyears> linuxApprentice: I can't *AFFORD* Winblows 10, and I don't want to pollute my hardware with it, thank you
[00:12] <curlyears> what do yu mean "hash the iso"
[00:12] <daftykins> ah so before when i said it you ignored me
[00:12] <daftykins> !md5
[00:13] <daftykins> that ^
[00:13] <daftykins> curlyears: no childish comments about different OSs in here thanks
[00:13] <daftykins> it reduces the tone
[00:14] <curlyears> daftykins:   that says it is for checking the MD5sum in Winblows.  I don't *HAVE* Winblows.  I am an ubuntu user
[00:14] <OerHeks> ehm, isn't there a bugreport that one cannot make a 15.10 usb wih a lower version of syslinux?
[00:14] <OerHeks> Due to changes in syslinux, it is not currently possible to use usb-creator from 14.04 and earlier releases to write USB images for 15.04 or later
[00:14] <daftykins> curlyears: read the first link
[00:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[00:14] <daftykins> curlyears: honestly, no wonder you're tripping up if you are paying this little attention to advice imparted.
[00:14] <OerHeks> there is a way, using imgwriter
[00:15] <curlyears> OerHeks:   I am  not using 15.10
[00:15] <daftykins> OerHeks: good call, i think it's 14.04.3 from 14.04.2 though
[00:15] <chaosPsycheX> ahoy
[00:15] <fhnsvbdvkbjbvnjf> Hihi
[00:15] <chaosPsycheX> What's this I hear of Ubuntunites and Debianites?
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> ^ I don't even know what you're talking about....
[00:16] <daftykins> chaosPsycheX: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:16] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: sure :-)
[00:16] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: did we get curlyears booted ?
[00:16] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: have you downloaded the ubuntu ISO ?
[00:17] <curlyears> sowwy, I missed the " or ' in there, thought I read it as one loooong URL
[00:17] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: oh, you have the livecd. you don't need it
[00:17] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: install from the livecd
[00:17] <chaosPsycheX> it's super easy
[00:18] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: will ubuntu be consuming your entire HD? 3TB?
[00:18] <curlyears> the Live CD will boot in 'tryout" more, but fails when installing.  * tims in a row now, same hardware, same DVD, samd options, 4 or 5 different errors reports on different attemps
[00:18] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: and what are the errors?
[00:18] <daftykins> ignore chaosPsycheX and just carry on with the download to HDD and hash.
[00:18] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX: Yes, except for the /boot and the swap partitiion
[00:19] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: do you understand HDD Partitioning ?
[00:19] <bcx> Hi, autocutsel creates a micro-window (few pixels square at the bottom right corner) on my gnome desktop, what can I do to hide it ?
[00:19] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: ?
[00:19] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX:   more or less.  I have been a computer user/programmer since the daysof MS-DOS 1
[00:19] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: I know you had mentioned seeing a filesystem error or something ..
[00:20]  * chaosPsycheX bows to curlyears 
[00:20] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: cool
[00:20] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX:   yes, that was when I tried booting from the USB innstaller for 14.04.3 I had just created using he "create an install disk" too wihch is part of the linux distribution
[00:21] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX: I am and Old Farte
[00:21]  * daftykins hopes that download is running
[00:22] <curlyears> I have been an ubuntu user since 2006, though I was away from computer use for about two years recently
[00:22] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: are you on the ubuntu live cd now ?
[00:22] <curlyears> and being a user that long makes me ooooold.   DOn't get old, it sucks
[00:22] <DosTuMai> Isn't DOS still a part of Win?
[00:22] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX: yes, booted in Live-CD.  I have only one system
[00:22] <chaosPsycheX> DosTuMai: uh, no
[00:23] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: then why are you downloading an iso when you can install from the live-cd ?
[00:23] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: reboot from the cd and select install ubuntu instead of try ubuntu
[00:24] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: and go through the installation process
[00:24] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX: because alll 8 of my attemps to install from the Live CD)DVD actually) have failed.  Quite probably, we finally figured out, vbcause I was installing to a 3TB drive, and 14.04.2 on its own can;t habndle that correctly, apparently
[00:24] <Voyage> can anyone help me with installing skype: http://pastie.org/10649575#1,18,145,246,262,280,293,305,323
[00:25] <daftykins> DosTuMai: not for a long time, the environment is emulated
[00:25] <DosTuMai> Oki, thanks Daftykins & chaosPsycheX. =]
[00:25] <curlyears> that's why I was d/l-ing an ios for 14.04.3
[00:25] <Zoohouse> Fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10 GNOME 64bit (4.2.0-22). After installation the boot process stops after 'A start job is running for Wait for... Screen to Quit (37s / no limit)' and it stays there without proceeding. I can log into Ubuntu if I boot into recovery mode and then 'Resume normal boot'. I'm assuming that works because the graphic drivers are not starting. After booting into GNOME I installed nvidia-current which gave me nvidia-304. No
[00:25] <Zoohouse> luck. The Additinal Hardware driver app installed some driver for my AMD CPU but it didn't dectect my video card. Not sure what to try next... Screenshot of where it hangs: https://i.imgur.com/b81XWjM.png My computer is more than 10 years old (pc, not laptop).
[00:26] <daftykins> Zoohouse: nvidia-current and nvidia-304 are ancient, what's your card?
[00:27] <curlyears> daftykins:   his PC in ancient.  Probabkly won't run the packages properly
[00:27] <Zoohouse> daftykins: I don't remember.... let me try to find out
[00:27] <cyclone232> anyone know about xbmc?
[00:27] <daftykins> curlyears: why do you believe to know of this situation?
[00:27] <daftykins> cyclone232: kodi.
[00:28] <curlyears> daftykins: know of which situation?
[00:28] <cyclone232> the depencies not met  i keep getting
[00:28] <cyclone232> tryed the  force update , still nothing
[00:28] <daftykins> curlyears: Zoohouse' obviously
[00:28] <chaosPsycheX> curlyears: i see
[00:29] <chaosPsycheX> ubuntu can't handle a drive that's 3TB ?
[00:29] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: ?
[00:29] <daftykins> cyclone232: which ubuntu? what are you trying to do? you need their repo and it has been called kodi for years now
[00:29] <daftykins> chaosPsycheX: a question mark is not a question.
[00:29] <curlyears> daftykins:  based onn what he told us, and my knowledge of electronics, computer hardware design, and of softwaere design.
[00:29] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: Ubuntu can't handle drives 3TB's or larger ?
[00:29] <daftykins> curlyears: please don't waste my time with your comments, you can't even fix your own issues.
[00:30] <cyclone232> ubuntu 14.10    and wen i install an add on i get the depencincies error
[00:30] <DosTuMai> Voyage: Have you checked your dash for Skype after installing?
[00:30] <daftykins> cyclone232: that release is EOL.
[00:30] <cyclone232> ?
[00:30] <curlyears> chaosPsycheX: I have beeen fighting with this thing, trying recommendations from about 5 or 6 different people, and each one fails, inexplicably.
[00:30] <cyclone232> eol?
[00:30] <daftykins> !eol
[00:30] <OerHeks> !utopic
[00:31] <daftykins> !pm | cyclone232
[00:31] <chaosPsycheX> may we have a moment of silence for all EOL iterations?
[00:31] <chaosPsycheX> !momentofsilence
[00:31] <Zoohouse> daftykins: The video card is: NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]
[00:31] <cyclone232> so  EOL  is??
[00:31] <daftykins> Zoohouse: i'd not try installing a driver for that at all, too old.
[00:31] <curlyears> daftykins:  my. my.   judgemental, aren;t we?
[00:31] <chaosPsycheX> End of Life! No longer supported
[00:31] <daftykins> cyclone232: read the first link, look at where 14.10 is.
[00:32] <daftykins> curlyears: if the shoe fits
[00:32] <OerHeks> cyclone232, dead, unsupported, use the old-releases trick in the url from ubottu
[00:32] <chaosPsycheX> cyclone232: ^
[00:32] <bazhang> curlyears, take the chit chat elsewhere, this is support only
[00:32] <curlyears> whatever, daftykins
[00:33] <cyclone232> so stuff wont work  well with 14.10??
[00:33] <DosTuMai> cyclone232: Better to upgrade to the latest or use the LTS release. =]
[00:34] <bazhang> cyclone232, its not supported here
[00:34] <daftykins> cyclone232: your OS is outdated, insecure - and dead
[00:34] <bazhang> cyclone232, upgrade to a supported version
[00:34] <hawly> bazhang, !!!
[00:34] <cyclone232> LTS?  i  had 15.4 but couldnt get past the login screen
[00:35] <curlyears> I am going to try the USB again.  I ran "sudo fsck -f" on it, fsck announced itself and its version and returned with no other output.  perhaps it has fixed someting?
[00:36] <curlyears> I don't believe 15.4 is an LTS version.
[00:36] <cyclone232> i installed 13.04  and got the option to ungrade   anyay i can trigger another upgrade?
[00:37] <EriC^^> curlyears: if it didn't say anything it usually means it didn't find any errors
[00:37] <EriC^^> curlyears: try smartctl
[00:37] <curlyears> you need to go with a version of 14.04, preferably 14.04.3
[00:37] <cyclone232> so 15.04  no get past login.. so tryed 13.04  got option to upgrade  and i did
[00:37] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install smartmontools , then sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[00:37] <curlyears> smartctl?
[00:37]  * hawly likes smartctl
[00:38] <Zoohouse> daftykins: even without a video driver the system hangs up...It's the video card?
[00:38] <daftykins> Zoohouse: i think it's your funny lookin' TV there
[00:38] <daftykins> how is it connected?
[00:39] <Zoohouse> daftykins: it's a monitor/tv. Connected via VGA
[00:40] <daftykins> did it ever work?
[00:40] <cyclone232> ok i did the smart tools thing ...
[00:41] <cyclone232> what did that do?
[00:41] <Zoohouse> daftykins: Oh yes defiantly. This computer has only seen Linux since it was born.
[00:41] <daftykins> Zoohouse: so whatever version you put on today doesn't like it, or?
[00:41] <daftykins> i think you should've stuck with LTS.
[00:42] <chaosPsycheX> the x.4 is LTS and x.10 are experimental
[00:42] <Zoohouse> daftykins: exactly. I had Arch without X before today.
[00:42] <daftykins> chaosPsycheX: not quite
[00:42] <curlyears> how do I identify which device in /dev is my USB?
[00:42] <daftykins> LTS is only every even year.
[00:42] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: when was it changed? it's every other x.4?
[00:42] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: oh, so 16.04 will be lts and 18 and so on
[00:42] <cyclone232> what does  smartmontools do??
[00:44] <chaosPsycheX> monitor smartly?
[00:44] <chaosPsycheX> !smartmontools
[00:44] <cyclone232> can one access it er???
[00:44] <nicomachus> cyclone232: checks the integrity of your disk drive
[00:44] <daftykins> cyclone232: pretty sure you're reading advice meant for someone else, the clue is that messages that start with a name other than your own are not for you.
[00:44] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, like chkdsk but smarter
[00:45] <cyclone232> sorry  never ussed  xchat
[00:45] <chaosPsycheX> wow, just wow lololololol @cyclone232
[00:45] <curlyears> how do I identify which device in /dev is my USB?
[00:45] <nicomachus> chaosPsycheX: not helpful.
[00:45] <daftykins> chkdsk is file system level, doesn't compare.
[00:45] <cmdswitch> curlyears, lsblk
[00:45] <chaosPsycheX> it has nothing to do with xchat/irc. it's common sense syntax
[00:45] <chaosPsycheX> name: msg-to-
[00:46] <chaosPsycheX> nicomachus: sorry
[00:46] <Bashing-om> curlyears: ' sudo parted -l ' and look at the disk size for each device .
[00:47] <timg__> is there a great ultrabook with useable support for ubuntu and 16gb mem? cant get why it's so hart to run ubuntu on a macbook
[00:47] <cyclone232> msg-to- chaosPsycheX so all i need to is install 15.10?
[00:47] <Zoohouse> daftykins: I'm going to try to reinstall. Maybe something went wrong..
[00:48] <curlyears> what's going on?
[00:48] <chaosPsycheX> cyclone232: what are you trying to do?
[00:49] <curlyears> why aren't my pastes being seen on the channel?  I have a oneline error message from smartctl
[00:49] <cyclone232> msg-to-chaosPsycheX make xbmc work ( depencies not met  error
[00:49] <daftykins> timg__: because Apple. mmm, the last gen Dell XPS 13 9343 might be good
[00:49] <nicomachus> cyclone232: you don't have to type msg-to-. just type the name.
[00:49] <daftykins> no 16GB though
[00:50] <OerHeks> old xbmc on 14.10, he needs to upgrade with the EOL trick
[00:50] <bazhang> or just use kodi
[00:50] <chaosPsycheX> cyclone232: use synaptic
[00:50] <curlyears> Bashing-om: right, I remember that now that yuo reminded me. (don't get old, it SUKCS)
[00:50] <OerHeks> bazhang +1
[00:50] <bazhang> as daftykins recommended hours ago
[00:51] <bazhang> curlyears, stop the editorializing here its support only
[00:51] <cyclone232> synaptic ?
[00:51] <nacc> timg__: the yoga 900 (not sure if that qualifies as an ultrabook) is almost 100% supported with 15.10 :) ... 16.04 should be pretty close to perfect OOB
[00:51] <timg__> nacc: thx
[00:51] <nacc> timg__: and what isn't working mostly work with the upstream kernel or will shortly
[00:51] <Bashing-om> curlyears: Oh contrair ... been doing this for about 50 years now . I do not feel the old at all .
[00:52] <timg__> why is the apple hardware support so bad?
[00:52] <daftykins> timg__: not on topic.
[00:52] <bazhang> cyclone232, why arent you investigating kodi as suppested
[00:52] <curlyears> Bashing-om: I am 63, in poor health, and feel like I am at least 90
[00:52] <bazhang> !info kodi | cyclone232
[00:52] <cyclone232> i did   led to dead end
[00:53] <bazhang> cyclone232, where are you getting xbmc from
[00:53] <cyclone232> seen on the software center    but cant install addons
[00:54] <bazhang> !find xbmc
[00:54] <bazhang> kodi is it cyclone232
[00:54] <daftykins> don't get it from the ubuntu repos.
[00:54] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux
[00:54] <daftykins> not gonna work, 14.10 is EOL
[00:54] <bazhang> cyclone232, also, to continue support upgrade from the eol
[00:54] <daftykins> can you folks maybe gift yourself this holiday season with the present of paying attention to the advice you're being given over and over again?
[00:54] <cyclone232> i installed it.  but while in  cant install addons.
[00:55] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, install via http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux instructions
[00:55] <daftykins> cyclone232: either outdated, or unofficial
[00:55] <chaosPsycheX> daftykins: LOL
[00:55] <bazhang> cyclone232, first things first, upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[00:55] <cyclone232> was affriad of that
[00:56] <cyclone232> had 15.10...  but couldnt login
[00:56] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, just do the LTS and install from there
[00:57] <cyclone232> do LTS?
[00:57] <chaosPsycheX> !lts
[00:57] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, 14.04.3
[00:57] <chaosPsycheX> :-)
[00:57] <cyclone232> not new to ubunu  but new to  trying to get stuff to work
[00:57] <chaosPsycheX> i hear ya
[00:57] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, that's why I said the LTS version, instead of 15
[00:57] <cyclone232> anyway i can upgrade  without  a fresh install?
[00:58] <cyclone232> LTS = good ???
[00:58] <cyclone232> the virsion o have is LTS  according to  the site
[00:58] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, LTS Long term support, more stuff works with it
[00:58] <curlyears> be back in a while
[00:59] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/
[00:59] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[00:59] <chaosPsycheX> cmdswitch: make sure you checksum the file!!!
[00:59] <cyclone232> cant upgrade . have to do a fresh install
[01:01] <cmdswitch> cyclone232, and yes do this as well if you wish https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:01] <chaosPsycheX> !install
[01:05] <chaosPsycheX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ummmm, wth?
[01:05] <cmdswitch> :)
[01:06] <chaosPsycheX> has that page been hacked? quickbooks and a 1-800 number is on it all over
[01:06] <cmdswitch> just use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation?action=recall&rev=136
[01:07] <chaosPsycheX> what happened to that page though?
[01:07] <cmdswitch> random user edits
[01:08] <chaosPsycheX> cmdswitch: and how did a 'random user' edit that page??
[01:08] <cmdswitch> chaosPsycheX, if it cant be explained, I blame random users
[01:08] <nicomachus> use this page instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation?action=diff&rev1=136&rev2=135
[01:08] <chaosPsycheX> indeed!!!
[01:08] <chaosPsycheX> to random users!
[01:08]  * chaosPsycheX toasts
[01:11] <nicomachus> chaosPsycheX: let's cut down on the chatter.
[01:11] <boxmein> ssmtp refuses to set AUTH PLAIN for me
[01:12] <boxmein> what do I do
[01:12] <boxmein> if I edit ssmtp.conf to say AuthMethod=CRAM-MD5 it works
[01:12] <Klumsy> thanks to everyone who has helped me out this holiday!
[01:12] <Klumsy> i have all my old stuff backed up now
[01:12] <Klumsy> thanks!
[01:12] <Klumsy> merry christmass!
[01:13] <cmdswitch> boxmein, have you looked at http://www.samlogic.net/articles/smtp-commands-reference-auth.htm ?
[01:13]  * DosTuMai hisses.
[01:13] <boxmein> if I remove it, set it to plain or PLAIN, it just automatically uses LOGIN
[01:13] <setokaipa> hello
[01:14] <setokaipa> hi there
[01:14] <boxmein> cmdswitch: it seems I still need auth plain, because thunderbird uses auth plain and it works fine
[01:14] <boxmein> I'm using cock.li, needed a mail host I'd be willing to leave my password in plaintext for
[01:16] <cmdswitch> boxmein, what smtp server software are you using?
[01:17] <cmdswitch> boxmein, ssmtp?
[01:18] <boxmein> cmdswitch: yes, ssmtp
[01:18] <boxmein> cmdswitch: mailx for the mail-sender
[01:20] <cmdswitch> boxmein, have you set up similar to http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-ssmtp.html ?
[01:21] <boxmein> cmdswitch: http://hastebin.com/ojatobekub.vala
[01:21] <boxmein> cmdswitch: testing with echo test | mail -v "testing SSMTP setup" root@email.com
[01:22] <boxmein> cmdswitch: command outputs this: http://hastebin.com/izoquvidon.vbs
[01:22] <cmdswitch> boxmein, there is no mx record http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3amail.cock.li&run=toolpage
[01:23] <boxmein> cmdswitch: can you check the command's output? it does seem to connect properly to the mail server...
[01:24] <cmdswitch> boxmein, looks incorrect looking at https://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml
[01:25] <boxmein> cmdswitch: I checked with thunderbird configuration, and it says that cock.li should expect plain auth for mail
[01:29] <cmdswitch> boxmein, AUTH=PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 is the only option for auth on the server
[01:30] <boxmein> cmdswitch: oh wow, thanks for going this far :O
[01:30] <boxmein> cmdswitch: I'm trying to make ssmtp go for PLAIN but I can't figure out why it's not doing that :(
[01:31] <cmdswitch> boxmein, needs MD5 sum to continue
[01:32] <boxmein> cmdswitch: what do you mean?
[01:32] <cmdswitch> boxmein, try telnet it and play around with the commands
[01:33] <cmdswitch> boxmein, read https://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml for more info
[01:38] <boxmein> cmdswitch: I'm not sure this will help given that it's ssmtp which doesn't want to do auth plain, rather than my configuration being wrong ;_;
[01:38] <cmdswitch> boxmein, that's all I had for it, else just google for it
[01:44] <Zoohouse> daftykins: Reinstalled and still it hangs, but the point where it hangs is different now... [OK] Started GNOME Display Manager [..] and then nothings more.
[01:45] <daftykins> time to dig into those logs!
[01:45]  * DosTuMai sips her tea.
[01:46] <magic_ninja-lap> so I'm trying to install a package and I think I'm getting dependency conflicts
[01:46] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, what's the error?
[01:48] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, "The following packages have unmet dependencies."
[01:48] <magic_ninja-lap> a list of packages
[01:48] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, so :) go met them :)
[01:48] <cmdswitch> meet*
[01:48] <magic_ninja-lap> then E:Unable to correct you may have held broken packages
[01:49] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm in a CLI only interface at the moment trying to install enlightenment from a ppa, I'm wondering what can cause something like that
[01:49] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:49] <magic_ninja-lap> right, at the moment I ran through all of the commands to clean up, but none of the packages mentioned were installed
[01:50] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, what are you trying to install?
[01:50] <magic_ninja-lap> enligthenment DE
[01:51] <magic_ninja-lap> the ppa for 20, I should also mention I just did a base-install
[01:51] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, did you follow http://ubuntuportal.com/2015/02/how-to-install-enlightenment-e20-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-14-04-14-10.html ?
[01:51] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, yes, and I got that error, so I removed the ppa and cleaned up
[01:52] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, what did install -f tell you?
[01:52] <magic_ninja-lap> ah crap
[01:52] <magic_ninja-lap> what does CTRL A do in the CLI
[01:52] <magic_ninja-lap> never tried to type it before, just did it out of habbit
[01:53] <magic_ninja-lap> now I can't move the cursor haha
[01:53] <cmdswitch> just hit enter
[01:53] <cmdswitch> and retype
[01:53] <magic_ninja-lap> kk, now
[01:53] <magic_ninja-lap> i'll readd the ppa
[01:54] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, then do sudo apt-get update
[01:54] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, then do the install
[01:54] <Zoohouse> daftykins: Can't seem to spot the problem. Do you see it? http://pastebin.com/s0g1rajE
[01:55] <magic_ninja-lap> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.
[01:55] <magic_ninja-lap> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:56] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, can you pastebin the entire error?
[01:56] <magic_ninja-lap> it lists the e20 libs
[01:56] <magic_ninja-lap> no
[01:56] <magic_ninja-lap> E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[01:56] <magic_ninja-lap> that is the entire error...I'm typing it into my lappie heh
[01:57] <seanyo> anyone have dhewm3 working?
[01:57] <magic_ninja-lap> I can type in the depds if you need
[01:57] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, without knowing what package are broken, the only solution I have for you is https://www.google.com/#q=ubuntu+borken+package
[01:57] <deepend> so, i've broken sudo and I can't figure out how to fix it
[01:57] <cmdswitch> https://www.google.com/#q=ubuntu+broken+package *
[01:57] <magic_ninja-lap> i'll get you them
[01:57] <seanyo> can anyone help or direct me to a channel which can help with dhewm3 not working in wily?
[01:58] <cmdswitch> deepend, what's broken about your sudo?
[01:58] <deepend> I think it started from a hostname issue
[01:58] <deepend> couldn't find hostname error when I did sudo
[01:58] <nicomachus> deepend: that shouldn't do anything to sudo...
[01:58] <deepend> ikr
[01:58] <deepend> :/
[01:58] <nicomachus> deepend: what exactly were you trying to do and what was the exact error?
[01:58] <deepend> so I fixed the /etc/hosts file
[01:58] <deepend> to match /etc/hostname
[01:59] <deepend> dropped to recovery mode root shell, added a new user, added new user to sudo group
[01:59] <deepend> su to new user
[01:59] <deepend> password accepted
[01:59] <deepend> no password for sudo will be accepted
[01:59] <magic_ninja-lap> http://pastebin.com/hHGv7fGU
[01:59] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, there you go man
[02:00] <DosTuMai> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/ba/28/e9ba28c3bb7268dfcea7296f35468dcd.jpg
[02:00] <zykotick9> !hostname | nicomachus notice the warning.
[02:00] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, did you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097146 ?
[02:01] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, sudo apt-get remove libedbus1 libedbus2 libedje1 libeeze1 libefreet1 libemotion0 libethumb libethumb-bin libethumb-data
[02:01] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, then try install again
[02:01] <deepend> zykotick9: so like add a second line in /etc/hosts to read: 127.0.1.1 <hostname>   ?
[02:01] <deepend> with the old hostname?
[02:02] <zykotick9> deepend: sorry not sure if it's a second line or "127.0.1.1 oldname newname"?!?!
[02:02] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, also rm -rf ~/.e
[02:02] <deepend> damn that's what I wasn't sure of lol
[02:03] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, no directory, nothing has been installed
[02:03] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libefl_201212220429-538~precise1_amd64.deb
[02:04] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:04] <Delemas> I'm trying to upgrade a server from 15.04 to 15.10. It keeps failing around 85%. Thanks to btrfs I kept a snapshot of the unbootable root. Anyone where it might log details of why it failed?
[02:04] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, or its <ubuntu flavor> equal
[02:05] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, if you dont' mind me asking, where did you get that package name?
[02:05] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097146&page=2
[02:05] <magic_ninja-lap> is that the 15.10 version of libefl?
[02:05] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, precise is not, you'll need to find it
[02:07] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, well I can say this much, I'm not using the ppa that is mentioned in the thread, so perhaps I'm not having exactly the same issue
[02:07] <sudersan_> hi , i often get automatically logged out,the error was xorg crashed with sigamart something like that using ubuntu 10.10 can someone help is that a bug
[02:07] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm not sure exactly what is happening (not meaning a fix, but what is going on)
[02:07] <sudersan_> ubuntu 15.10
[02:07] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, the point is at this point, you have other issues like broken packages. Fix the packages THEN work on enlightenment
[02:08] <magic_ninja-lap> I got ya, I have tried to clean up/remove packages, but I'm not exactly sure what is broken >.<
[02:09] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, http://pastebin.com/hHGv7fGU lists what's broken, google to find the answers to fix the packages
[02:10] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, I see. So these packages are broken it seems, but I never downloaded or installed them
[02:10] <magic_ninja-lap> so for some reason apt is confused and thinks they are broken?
[02:10] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, but they are needed for your enlightenment program
[02:11] <magic_ninja-lap> I wish I knew who made the ppa
[02:13] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, https://www.enlightenment.org/download lists the dependencies, make sure they are installed
[02:14] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, I see, so it seems that apt can't find the dependencies for the dependencies
[02:14] <Delemas> This is what was on the console before disconnected from the network and I found it powered off. http://pastebin.ca/3299222
[02:14] <Delemas> It isn't helping much...
[02:14] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, its not magic
[02:15] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm installing them now, this is the first time i've ever done a base install like this
[02:15] <cmdswitch> Delemas, did you run journalctl -xe to see the details?
[02:15] <magic_ninja-lap> is there a package that installs development stuff I wonder :D
[02:16] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, probably
[02:16] <magic_ninja-lap> googling for it now
[02:16] <Delemas> Kinda hard when the system won't boot afterwards. Is there a way to run journalctl -xe against a different root?
[02:17] <cmdswitch> Delemas, does the system boot into single-user mode?
[02:18] <Delemas> Not with the partially upgraded too. I had to revert to the snapshot taken just before upgrade then it boots fine with 15.04.
[02:18] <Delemas> I meant not with the partially upgraded root....
[02:19] <Delemas> Oh sweet there is a --root option...
[02:21] <Zoohouse> Going to try Lubuntu..
[02:21] <Delemas>  So many flavours these days...
[02:23] <welovfree_> is there is a way to customize ubuntu to become flat like os?
[02:23] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, flat like os? like Mac OS X?
[02:24] <nicomachus> welovfree_: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/paper-new-material-design-inspired-gtk.html
[02:25] <welovfree_> cmdswitch, like chromixium
[02:25] <welovfree_> cmdswitch, or flat as win 10
[02:26] <Delemas> hmm except --root doesn't seem to work...
[02:26] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, http://www.noobslab.com/2015/09/do-you-like-windows-10-look-but-love.html
[02:26] <cmdswitch> Delemas, I'm outta ideas, sorry
[02:27] <Delemas> No worries at least I have something to google which is more than I had before...
[02:28] <welovfree_> cmdswitch, that was awful win 10 theme on linux
[02:29] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, I didn't say it was great
[02:29] <welovfree_> cmdswitch, what I was looking for is ubuntu as it is but flat designed
[02:29] <nicomachus> welovfree_: did you see what I sent you?
[02:29] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, http://www.noobslab.com/2015/05/ambiance-radiance-flat-colors-theme.html
[02:30] <welovfree_> nicomachus, yes I am reading it right now
[02:30] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, else just google for it
[02:31] <lubuntu> rc.net
[02:32] <nicomachus> welovfree_: my desktop with Paper GTK and Numix icons: https://imgur.com/0D8XlR5
[02:33] <eb0t> do any of you guys do ubuntu server stuff ...or is it all abotu desktops and pretty things
[02:33] <welovfree_> nicomachus, wow! it's beautiful
[02:33] <cfhowlett> !server | eb0t
[02:33] <cmdswitch> eb0t, #ubuntu-server
[02:33] <nicomachus> eb0t: ask your question and we'll answer if we can. but there's also #ubuntu-server
[02:33] <eb0t> ah cool
[02:33] <welovfree_> nicomachus, how can I install paper
[02:34] <nicomachus> welovfree_: it's on that link I sent you.
[02:35] <welovfree_> nicomachus, ok, I hope ubuntu would look something like that in the future because I am not changing it to another os because ubuntu was the 1st linux distro I discovered
[02:36] <nicomachus> welovfree_: ubuntu can look however you want it to look
[02:38] <welovfree_> nicomachus, so Paper is not what some one could call a theme it's beyond
[02:38] <nicomachus> It's a theme.
[02:38] <cmdswitch> welovfree_, also http://askubuntu.com/questions/361422/how-can-you-change-the-gtk-theme-and-window-decorations-separately-in-unity
[02:39] <xcelq> cmdswitch: i believe that show gtk-tweak-tool?
[02:39] <xcelq> or what ever it called
[02:40] <cmdswitch> xcelq, and the ubuntu-tweak as well
[02:40] <nicomachus> unity-tweak-tool can be used to switch themes.
[02:40] <welovfree_> ok
[02:42] <welovfree_> nicomachus, Ubuntu users can install the latest Paper GTK theme by using its official daily buils PPA (unstable): what do they mean by unstable??
[02:42] <cfhowlett> !ppa | welovfree_
[02:46] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, lol about half way down the dep list :D
[02:48] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, you're the one that wanted enlightenment :)
[02:49] <magic_ninja-lap> haha yep
[02:55] <cmdswitch> out for bit
[03:20] <viktor_> hello all. running xubuntu 14.04 LTS. can't use my scanner:( have tried to install the proprietary drivers from canon, but no effect. any help pls?
[03:24] <joeb3_> viktor_, if you run the simple scan app, does it recognize the scanner/
[03:24] <joeb3_> ?
[03:24] <viktor_> joeb3_ nope, it says, make sure scanner is on and connected
[03:26] <joeb3_> viktor_, ok, I have the CanonScan LIDE 25 usb and it works fine without any drivers installed.
[03:27] <viktor_> joeb3_ that's a driver? how do i install it?
[03:27] <joeb3_> viktor_, that's the scanner model.  I just plugged it in and it works.
[03:28] <viktor_> joeb3_ yes, my previous scanner also worked right out of the box, however, this one doesn't
[03:30] <cmdswitch> joeb3_, what's the broken scanner model?
[03:30] <nicomachus> viktor_: is it plugged in now?
[03:30] <nicomachus> USB?
[03:30] <viktor_> nicomachus yup, usb
[03:31] <nicomachus> Can you paste the output of 'lsusb' to a pastebin and link that here?
[03:31] <viktor_> nicomachus, printer works fine (it's a printer/scanner)
[03:32] <welovfree> what is Unity Launcher?
[03:33] <nicomachus> viktor_: what's the scanner model?
[03:33] <viktor_> nicomachus : http://pastebin.com/qdFq58Xi
[03:33] <welovfree> I came across this article on softpadia.COM, http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-let-users-move-the-unity-launcher-at-the-bottom-of-the-screen-498000.shtml
[03:33] <viktor_> nichomachus Canon Pixma MG3570
[03:33] <nicomachus> welovfree: that's more of a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:34] <cmdswitch> viktor_, look at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/12/canon-driver-scangear-mp-ubuntu-14-04/ ?
[03:36] <magic_ninja-lap> cmdswitch, got it installing finally. I suppose if I had added the universe repository it would have been much easier :D
[03:36] <viktor_> cmdswitch i did. my printer isn't listed. i also found some reply om ubuntuforums from a guy with the same printer who tried this without succes
[03:37] <nicomachus> viktor_: is this the one you tried?: http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100550402.html
[03:38] <cmdswitch> magic_ninja-lap, we must do it the hard way, to appreciate the easy way
[03:38] <cfhowlett> the hard way we must, so that the easy way you will appreciate.  FTFY
[03:39]  * cmdswitch is #antistarwars
[03:39] <nicomachus> cmdswitch is #offtopic
[03:40] <viktor_> nicomachus no, i just tried the scanner drivers only, which i now see, is of an earlier version (2.20)
[03:40] <nicomachus> viktor_: ok, purge that one and download the one from that link.
[03:41] <viktor_> nicomachus will it affect the scanner?
[03:41] <nicomachus> it should make it work.
[03:41] <viktor_> nicomachus okay, thkns, i'll try that
[03:42] <nicomachus> viktor_: this has step-by-step to install it once you've downloaded it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209879
[03:49] <pierre_> cw on
[03:50] <Shady> hello! Dependency is not satisfiable: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5) , how to fix this
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[03:56] <magic_ninja-lap> so now when I try to log in I get a black screen
[04:00] <Shady> hello! Dependency is not satisfiable: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5) , how to fix this
[04:00] <AndroidHacker> Shady, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:03] <Shady> AndroidHacker, libgcrypt11-dev is already the newest version. this is the output from terminal
[04:04] <viktor_> nicomachus still nothing
[04:04] <AndroidHacker> Shady, what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:05] <LordPicard> Hello. I've a problem when I update ubuntu, it asks me to free up some space in /boot - is there a way to increase its size? I've done aut-get autoremove and clean nothing works.
[04:05] <nicomachus> LordPicard: can you paste the output of " sudo ls /boot "?
[04:07] <LordPicard> nicomachus:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/14186347/
[04:08] <LordPicard> This start to hapen after I updated from (i think) 15.something to 15.10
[04:08] <Shady> install a .deb file with gdebi
[04:08] <LordPicard> 15.01 maybe? not sure. :)
[04:08] <Shady> AndroidHacker, install a .deb file with gdebi
[04:09] <AndroidHacker> i would recommend using dpkg
[04:09] <AndroidHacker> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[04:09] <AndroidHacker> then
[04:09] <AndroidHacker> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:10] <yoLo_> how do i uninstall something i no longer use /
[04:10] <yoLo_> ?
[04:10] <yoLo_> like remove so i can install a new one
[04:11] <LordPicard> yoLo_:  sudo apt-get remove <package name> or search for it in ubuntu software center if you dont know the package name
[04:11] <LordPicard> yoLo_: but if you want to "reset" you can just search for the config file - if ther's one - and remove it, it will reset the app probably
[04:14] <Shady> AndroidHacker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14186397/
[04:15] <neredsenvy> Anyone know a fix for lightdm whitescreen ?
[04:15] <AndroidHacker> Shady, i see no errors
[04:19] <linuxnoob> help me ????
[04:19] <viktor_> nicomachus still there?
[04:19] <linuxnoob> omg
[04:19] <linuxnoob> ???
[04:20] <viktor_> linuxnoob you have to be more specific
[04:20] <linuxnoob> why is lubuntu so laggy for videos and normal task
[04:20] <linuxnoob> ??
[04:20] <Shady> AndroidHacker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14186447/
[04:20] <linuxnoob> i mean im on a netbook 2gb ram intel atom
[04:20] <viktor_> linuxnoob, have you installed the proprietary driver for your graphics card?
[04:21] <linuxnoob> no
[04:21] <linuxnoob> how do i do that?
[04:21] <neredsenvy> Is there a lightdm alternative that actually works ?
[04:21] <viktor_> linuxnoob, go to setting> additional drivers
[04:21] <nicomachus> viktor_: had a bit of a crash over here... sorry
[04:21] <viktor_> nicomachus np
[04:22] <viktor_> nicomachus but i was hoping you'd have any other ideas?
[04:22] <linuxnoob> viktor_ okay and then?
[04:23] <linuxnoob> it say no additional driver availbale
[04:23] <viktor_> linuxnoob, what's your graphics card?
[04:23] <linuxnoob> idk
[04:24] <linuxnoob> integrated intel
[04:24] <linuxnoob> lol
[04:26] <viktor_> linuxnoob, can you type "lspci -vnn" in a command line copy the response to pastebin and send me the link?
[04:26] <linuxnoob> ok 1 sec
[04:27] <linuxnoob> ho do copy??
[04:27] <linuxnoob> ho do i copy??
[04:28] <viktor_> linuxnoob just select it with the mouse, r-click and copy
[04:28] <linuxnoob> ok
[04:29] <linuxnoob> it wont let me copy from terminal?
[04:30] <WubTheCaptain> What happened in here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[04:30] <WubTheCaptain> The last revision looks to be fine though when accessed directly
[04:31] <law> hey all, I'm working with Server 14.04.3 and something is driving me nuts
[04:31] <law> I've removed all instances of the symlink S20puppet in the various /etc/rcX.d/ directories, but the daemon still starts on boot
[04:32] <law> this is a bog-standard install
[04:32] <law> what am I missing on preventing this daemon from starting on boot?
[04:32] <viktor_> linuxnoob ? what happens when you try to copy
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[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]R?GCQIKqQ*LB
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]OhQZL}X1Gh
[04:32] <WubTheCaptain> law: I've not used Ubuntu in a long time, but have you used update-rc.d to disable it?
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]R5M.R]M'QZN<W?
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]QtJCW#L+PlO/Q3
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]P6O/PqNVPhO<S"J`PiN=U\
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]S?LlPdO5S)O/PpO/PfMiPlL4P'
[04:32] <ve2hs> cw=Z]Q_LjPlJRPjK>PdNVPjN;
[04:33] <ve2hs> cw=Z]M`PhLUPgNBPqO1PjNIV+Mk
[04:33] <linuxnoob> if i right click it high lights some parts and if i press control c it only writes a c
[04:34] <ve2hs> cw=Z]QNN<PqL~QRO/PrH4PsNXPdOl
[04:34] <ve2hs> cw=Z]LzPqO.PqH[PDL7PkNNPqO#
[04:34] <law> WubTheCaptain: I have, yes
[04:35] <viktor_> linuxnoob, use right-click with the mouse to copy/paste in terminal
[04:36] <linuxnoob> dosent work bro :c
[04:37] <viktor_> linuxnoob, you're sure you're in terminal?
[04:37] <linuxnoob> yes its called UXTerm?
[04:38] <viktor_> linuxnoob, should be it. and you can't select by dragging your mouse, and then right-clicking on the selected part?
[04:39] <linuxnoob> no
[04:39] <linuxnoob> not working
[04:41] <Shady> AndroidHacker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14186447/
[04:41] <viktor_> linuxnoob, try shift+ctrl+c, seems xterm is a little more difficult
[04:41] <zykotick9> viktor_: ahh, those copy/paste instructions are very "terminal" dependant... just sayin'
[04:42] <viktor_> zykotick yes, just looked it up, but most terminals support copy/paste with the mouse
[04:42] <joeb3_> uxterm will paste with the middle button.
[04:43] <joeb3_> middle mouse button that is
[04:43] <zykotick9> viktor_: yes, but they implement it in different ways, as joeb3_ can attest ;)
[04:44] <linuxnoob> nope not working
[04:44] <viktor_> linuxnoob, so if you've been reading along, try middle mouse button too
[04:44] <viktor_> linuxnoob, neither ctrl+shft+c or middle mouse button??
[04:44] <linuxnoob> no
[04:44] <linuxnoob> nothing
[04:44] <zykotick9> viktor_: fyi, it's highlight (leave highlighted, no click) then middle mouse.
[04:44] <linuxnoob> it touch pad
[04:44] <linuxnoob>  no mouse
[04:45] <zykotick9> s/middle mouse/middle mouse to paste/
[04:45] <linuxnoob> its a netbook lol
[04:45] <viktor_> netbooks sometimes have usb-mouses
[04:45] <viktor_> install a better terminal :p
[04:45] <linuxnoob> how?
[04:46] <viktor_> lubuntu software center
[04:46] <nicomachus> linuxnoob: right click, copy/paste?
[04:46] <linuxnoob> ok witch terminl?
[04:46] <linuxnoob> yes it wont copy or nothing
[04:47] <viktor_> linuxnoob, try gnome-terminal
[04:47] <Shady> Hello! I've a problem instaling  .deb file http://paste.ubuntu.com/14186447/
[04:48] <linuxnoob> gnome term. i not lited
[04:48] <linuxnoob> listed*
[04:48] <nicomachus> linuxnoob: at the top of your regular terminal: Edit > Profile Preferences > Key Shortcuts tab
[04:48] <yoLo_> how do i add directory to my PATH ?
[04:49] <yoLo_> directory name is bin
[04:49] <linuxnoob> nico there only move, send to dektop
[04:49] <nacc> yoLo_: depends on if you want to ahve it searched before or after the normal PATH, but export PATH=bin:$PATH ?
[04:50] <nicomachus> Shady: try 'sudo apt-get clean' then install again
[04:50] <zykotick9> Shady: "cannot copy extracted data for <SNIP> to <SNIP>: unexpected end of file or stream" <- i'd guess corrupted DEB or bad packaging?!?!  good luck.
[04:50] <yoLo_> nacc: search
[04:50] <yoLo_> after
[04:51] <lebouskii>  anyone here know how to solve a problem involving linking 2 routers. one receiving  a signal and sends it through lan port to 2nd router that broadcasts it. both routers flashed with dd-wrt.  i'm having some issues i can't figure out at all
[04:52] <zykotick9> yoLo_: do you mean ~/bin?  if so, create it, log out and back in - and it should be there.
[04:52] <yoLo_> zykotick9: yes
[04:52] <nacc> yoLo_: then it'd be `export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/bin` ...
[04:52] <yoLo_> zykotick9: which i have just created in my Home directory
[04:52] <linuxnoob> i might just instll linux mint
[04:52] <nacc> yoLo_: technically it depends on the exact shell in question, and which config files are already present
[04:53] <Shady> zykotick9, thanks
[04:53] <zykotick9> yoLo_: log out and back in - majic it's there ;)
[04:54] <yoLo_> zykotick9: where do i write "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/bin:$PATH ?
[04:54] <zykotick9> yoLo_: you dont!
[04:54] <zykotick9> yoLo_: log out and back in - majic it's there ;)
[04:54] <yoLo_> zykotick9: but wouldnt i have to do this each time i log back in?
[04:55] <yoLo_> zykotick9: so i simply type in terminal ?
[04:55] <nacc> yoLo_: if you are just trying to add your home dir's bin to the PATH, it's built-in functionally, if the directory is present
[04:55] <zykotick9> yoLo_: NO.  just log out and back it - it's that simple.  ~/bin will be setup for you.
[04:55] <viktor_> linuxnoob, i'm surprised your driver isn't listed to begin with. how old is your computer?
[05:01] <yoLo__> zykotick9:  nacc  thanks works!
[05:01] <yoLo__> as simple as that
[05:01] <zykotick9> :)
[05:04] <viktor_> hi all, running xubuntu 14.04 LTS on a toshiba satellite. my printer/scanner is an: Canon Pixma MG3570. copying works fine, printer works fine, connection by USB. scanner doesn't work. simple scan says "no scanners detected". have downloaded and installed proprietary drivers from canon. no effect. any help is much appreciated
[05:09] <StefaNNN> Anybody here to help me? :D
[05:13] <terrasapien> viktor_: this solution worked for me in same situation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32646/how-to-change-the-bus-dev-in-order-to-allow-xsane-to-work
[05:26] <viktor_> terrasapien, i just replace the dollar signs with the bus and device? like: .../001Bus/003Dev ?
[05:27] <terrasapien> viktor_: I just used the exact output from lsusb for the scanning device
[05:29] <terrasapien> sometimes it changes between boots so I need to change permissions with chmod everytime I want to use my scanner
[05:29] <viktor_> terrasapien, sorry if i'm being slow, just don't want to chmod something wrong. so, sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/$Bus/$Dev + Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:176e Canon, Inc. = ?
[05:30] <terrasapien> yeah. that should do it
[05:31] <billtsui> Hi
[05:31] <terrasapien> but without the description, just the device path
[05:32] <viktor_> terrasapien,  "sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/$Bus/$Dev Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:176e" like that??
[05:32] <lebouskii> nice
[05:32] <terrasapien> just the path, nothing after the first space
[05:33] <terrasapien> so chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/$Bus/$Dev
[05:34] <terrasapien> sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/003
[05:34] <viktor_> terrasapien, don't need to input the actual bus and dev numbers somewhere?
[05:35] <terrasapien> yes, as the path and device as I typed above
[05:35] <terrasapien> then your scanner should work
[05:36] <zykotick9> viktor_: note, after a reboot the permission will be reverted (i think).
[05:36] <terrasapien> yes, it will so you'll need to do that each time before you use your scanner
[05:37] <viktor_> viktor@viktor-SATELLITE-L750:~$ sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/003
[05:37] <viktor_> chmod: cannot access ‘/dev/bus/usb/001/003’: No such file or directory
[05:37] <zykotick9> viktor_: what is the "ls -l /dev/bus..." is it owned by the scanner group perhaps?
[05:38] <viktor_> zykotick9, i used this one first sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/$Bus/$Dev
[05:38] <viktor_> i misunderstood
[05:38] <q0_0p> anyone here tried macbook pro 13" 2015 getting bluetooth working?
[05:39] <econ1awesome> howdy! After I extract a tarball how do I make it so I can run it by command in bash, instead of typing in the absolute filepath?
[05:39] <zykotick9> viktor_: i'd "guess" that command would fail... i hope so anyways...
[05:39] <viktor_> zycotick9, didn't get any error msg with that one
[05:40] <SchrodingersScat> !path | econ1awesome
[05:40] <zykotick9> !tab | viktor_ just FYI.
[05:41] <econ1awesome> SchrodingersScat: so don't need to symbolically link? just modify bashrc?
[05:41] <zykotick9> viktor_: have you tried running xsane with sudo?  you will get a warning on running - but it might work?  i don't have to do this anymore, but did for a while...
[05:42] <viktor_> zykotick, it runs, says "no devices available"
[05:42] <SchrodingersScat> econ1awesome: if it's something you compiled, there's often a 'make install' you can run to put it in path.  I wouldn't modify bashrc, I would just put it in my path somewhere.  You can add more locations though.
[05:42] <econ1awesome> SchrodingersScat: is that persistent though? I thought export was temporary?
[05:43] <terrasapien> viktor_: when you do : lsusb . . . do you see your scanner in the list of devices?
[05:43] <zykotick9> viktor_: fyi, z-y-k-TAB should autocomplete my nick.  "no devices available"... hummm... doesn't seem promising...  i don't really have any other suggestions.  best of luck.
[05:43] <SchrodingersScat> econ1awesome: I thought adding it to the bashrc would be the same as adding more locations, yes?
[05:43] <econ1awesome> I think so?
[05:44] <viktor_> terrasapien, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14187724/
[05:45] <viktor_> terrasapien, 4th one
[05:46] <terrasapien> looks like fifth line . . . no?
[05:46] <terrasapien> but it's not a very descriptive line that would indicate your scanner/printer
[05:47] <viktor_> terrasapien, 4th device :)
[05:47] <viktor_> terrasapien, canon
[05:47] <viktor_> terrasapien, the device changed
[05:47] <doomsy> greetings
[05:47] <terrasapien> lol, yeah, ok, 4th device, but line five . . . my bad :)
[05:49] <terrasapien> viktor_: if changing permissions doesn't work, your problem looks to be beyond my depth of understanding -- good luck
[05:49] <doomsy> anyone know a good .pak unpacker?
[05:49] <doomsy> for ubuntu
[05:50] <doomsy> I can't seem to find an unpacker for .pak files. People are saying 7zip but it doesn't work with it...
[05:51] <terrasapien> doomsy: maybe unar might work?
[05:51] <EV90IARU> doom pak ?
[05:51] <xcelq> doom pak?
[05:52] <doomsy> just downloaded visual studio Code becuase Im used to it at work, but it's in a .pak file and i can't seem to find anything to unzip it
[05:53] <doomsy> looking up unar, tyvm
[05:54] <doomsy> good call terra, unar unpacks it. Thanks!
[05:54] <terrasapien> awesome, I learned something too then
[05:57] <lebouskii> does anyone know why it's so hard and impossible so far for me to get my  alfa036nh wireless card set to 30dbm when do iwconfig . i've tried the methods you hear about mainly but is there something i can do to try and find the issue and fix it?
[05:57] <lebouskii> its stuck at 20dbm or lower =\
[05:59] <lebouskii> computer issues driving me to overtake my adderall again
[06:01] <soupnanodesukar> psa, someone hacked the ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[06:03] <econ1awesome> I'm still really confused. I have added a local directory to my path in an attempt to run an executable. However, it is not working. What do I do to make it work? E.g. if I have a.out, how can I run it by typing "a.out" instead of "./a.out"?
[06:08] <CacheMoney1> sooo any ideas as to why all the files in /usr/sbin and /usr/bin would be renamed with underscores in front of them?
[06:10] <gagalicious> how can i have a fresh installation of my ubuntu everytime i restart? i'm looking also into LSTP and diskless and fat client systems. does anyone know what's the difference between them?
[06:12] <doomsy> hows everyone
[06:12] <CacheMoney1> wget --user ***** --password *** ftp://sdfjhsl.com/123/*.*
[06:12] <CacheMoney1> that should download all the files in a folder right/
[06:13] <xcelq> CacheMoney1: yes
[06:13] <xcelq> doomsy: good you?
[06:13] <CacheMoney1> so say I mounted an ntfs drive to /mnt/usbdrive
[06:13] <econ1awesome> I'm still really confused. I have added a local directory to my path in an attempt to run an executable. However, it is not working. What do I do to make it work? E.g. if I have a.out, how can I run it by typing "a.out" instead of "./a.out"?
[06:13] <CacheMoney1> cd'd in to that folder
[06:13] <doomsy> doing ok. Just catching up on work before the holidays
[06:13] <CacheMoney1> ran mkdir networkdrivers
[06:14] <CacheMoney1> cd'd into the newly created folder
[06:14] <CacheMoney1> then ran that wget command
[06:14] <xcelq> CacheMoney1: can't rsync copy files too?
[06:14] <CacheMoney1> it could
[06:14] <CacheMoney1> but regardless, that shouldn't overwrite anything on the OS right?
[06:14] <xcelq> yeah
[06:15] <CacheMoney1> for some reason
[06:15] <CacheMoney1> this server just shit itself
[06:15] <CacheMoney1> nothign in /usr/sbin/ /usr/bin
[06:15] <CacheMoney1> or /bin
[06:16] <beastee> Hmmm... I just used make while not being inside any specific directory (at /home/) and now it is going through all my files, is this ok? Other than it taking forever, of course
[06:17] <Cody1337> Hi.
[06:17] <beastee> Hi
[06:17] <Cody1337> I wonder how Snappy will benefit my server when 16.04 comes out...
[06:18] <nicomachus> beastee: hit "Ctrl+Alt+C" to stop it.
[06:18] <beastee> nicomachus: won't it corrupt anything?
[06:18] <nicomachus> should be fine. there's nothing for it to make.
[06:19] <beastee> ok, thanks
[06:19] <thomedy> does anyone know about video encoding
[06:19] <thomedy> im  stabbing a t the dark without any sense of direction
[06:20] <user123321> Can I programmatically cut the entire power in a particular USB port?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> user123321: whats your end goal?
[06:22] <user123321> lotuspsychje, To turn off my laptop's external cooling pad before suspending my laptop. In Windows, I tried many settings but the cooling fan still runs after sleep mode. I suspect this would be the same in Ubuntu.
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> user123321: buy an usb hub with on/off switch perhaps?
[06:24] <user123321> lotuspsychje, That's one option. I want this to be done programmatically. A USB hub might reduce the power going for my external fan :/
[06:24] <user123321> unless it's powered hub.. well.
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> user123321: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/342061/power-on-off-usb-ports
[06:26]  * Cody1337 Is now afk
[06:27] <user123321> hmm, seems some commands from terminal. thx I'll check.
[06:31] <CacheMoney1> i fixed it
[06:31] <CacheMoney1> with a good ol reboot
[06:31] <CacheMoney1> lol
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | CacheMoney
[06:45] <viktor_> terrasapien, i found it. want to know what it was?
[06:46] <lebouskii> why would armitage load all the way till its main GUI and it never actually opens it even though it takes  a while to load and it hapened to stop working after i updated it
[06:56] <kogan> Can you use -I instead of install to install a program
[07:03] <himanshu> Hello
[07:04] <beastee> Hello, Guest96557
[07:04] <Guest96557> How to identify your nickname on Xchat?
[07:04] <somsip> !register | Guest96557
[07:05] <Guest96557> Hello beastee
[07:06] <kogan> When you compile a program do you need to add all of the dependency
[07:06] <Guest96557> yes we need
[07:17] <valtrip> need help with grep ,, i lost i txt in my disk ,, i did    ls -R | grep cha    the file is showing ,, how can i get its adddress or pipe it to cat
[07:19] <yehochanan> I was wondering if anyone has had any trouble duel booting a debian based system and windows 7
[07:19] <Gallomimia> !sensor
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: !info sensors ?
[07:20] <firstofthe300> valtrip: You should be able to do something like find *cha* and get the full path
[07:20] <SeriouslyLaugh> yehochanan i've been able to do it
[07:21] <firstofthe300> scratch that. not helpful
[07:21] <firstofthe300> "find . -name *writ*" is what you want
[07:21] <firstofthe300> or find . -name *cha* in your case
[07:21] <Gallomimia> lotuspsychje: i found some stuff. i still cant remember what i used to use to graph the temps
[07:22] <yehochanan> SeriouslyLaugh did you ever have received this error
[07:22] <yehochanan> I was wondering if anyone has had any trouble duel booting a debian based system and windows 7
[07:22] <yehochanan> ERROR: pdc: wrong # of devices in RAID set "pdc_bdifidicjc" [1/2] on /dev/sda
[07:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> yehochanan nope, sorry -- first thing i would do is plug that error into google and see what comes up
[07:23] <valtrip> thnxx  firstofthe300  ,, it worked ,,, :) i was doing things for half an hour
[07:24] <yehochanan> I have already tried and all I get are threads about repairing raid arrays. I don't have a raid array
[07:24] <firstofthe300> glad to hear it
[07:24] <firstofthe300> find is extremely powerful...you should take a look at its man page
[07:24] <yehochanan> I have a single drive that for some reason is being seen as a misconfigured raid
[07:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> yehochanan maybe double check your BIOS settings to make sure you have your boot devices set correctly? make sure you google everything before making change
[07:25] <yehochanan> I haven't checked bios yet
[07:29] <yehochanan> still googling, nothing much so far
[07:31] <valtrip> firstofthe300        sure gonna do!!!   grep should have a operator to get address of files (in case) ,, it shows line no and other things if you search a txt
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> yehochanan: this is ubuntu support not debian
[07:32] <firstofthe300> grep is more of an all purpose command that is used on any output given to it
[07:32] <firstofthe300> find is file system based
[07:32] <doomsy1> ubuntu is fun
[07:33] <firstofthe300> find is a lot like grep but built for filesystem searching
[07:41] <somsip> firstofthe300: no - grep finds matches for text in a file, find looks for matching filenames/dir names
[07:42] <firstofthe300> somsip: just looked at the man page and you are right...but I was trying (rather poorly) to say that find searches file and dir names.
[07:43] <somsip> firstofthe300: on second read, I can see what you're getting at so didnt mean it to sound like I was jumping on you :)
[07:43] <firstofthe300> no prob...good job catching me on grep though.
[07:44] <somsip> firstofthe300: although, I should have said that grep finds matches from input, not just files
[07:48] <detly> is there a tool for a/b testing videos? that is, something that lets you view two similar videos side by side, or quickly switch between them at the same point in time?
[07:52] <welovfree> Hello guys, I just finished installing firefox on ubuntu
[07:52] <welovfree> and tell me
[07:52] <welovfree> Please restart all running instances of firefox, or you will experience problems.
[07:52] <welovfree> how can i do that?
[07:53] <firstofthe300> If you just finished installing it for the first time, there shouldn't be any instances to restart.
[07:53] <firstofthe300> If you just updated, simply closing all firefox windows will do it.
[07:54] <welovfree> not for the first time, I just got an old version and updated it
[07:54] <welovfree> ok
[07:54] <welovfree> and how can I make sure
[07:54] <welovfree> run the ps command or what?
[07:55] <firstofthe300> yeah
[07:55] <firstofthe300> ps -a
[07:55] <firstofthe300> or similar
[07:56] <firstofthe300> excuse me...ps -A
[08:02] <welovfree> firstofthe300, thank you
[08:08] <yehochanan> good night lal
[08:08] <yehochanan> all
[08:09] <Alphakarem> good night yehochanan
[08:30] <dupingping> who knows about sock proxy?
[08:31] <dupingping> please help me about it, I think that ubuntu does now work with sock proxy setting from gnome settings.
[08:35] <Morrwin> Hey guys anyone having issues with amd drivers? If I use the proprietary ati drivers in Ubuntu 14.04.3lts I need to disable hardware acceleration else screen/window flickers. Applied to any app that uses it like Chrome or code editors, but Steam games run good. If I go to open source drivers Steam games won't run but I can use the hardware acceleration since it doesn't flicker.
[08:37] <welovfree> Hello guys, in windows the default installation folder is c:/Program Files, I would like to know the default folder in ubuntu, because I installed Sublime text manually using tar command and result was folder named Sublime_text_3 in which the executable resides
[08:37] <welovfree> and i want to move that folder to the default folder
[08:40] <firstofthe300> Sublime has deb packages on the website that you can download and install.
[08:40] <firstofthe300> I know that for a fact.
[08:41] <firstofthe300> Go with the debs as installation and uninstallation is a piece of cake.
[08:43] <welovfree> but I already installed it
[08:46] <dupingping> hey, what is sock?
[08:47] <bekks> dupingping: Do you mean SOCKS?
[08:47] <dupingping> bekks: yes, right. SOCKS.
[08:48] <bekks> dupingping: There you go :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS
[08:49] <welovfree> hey bekks can you help me?
[08:49] <somsip> !ask | welovfree
[08:49] <firstofthe300> Welovfree: the default installation directory is generally only touched by the package manager.
[08:50] <dupingping> bekks: yeah, i saw it.
[08:50] <dupingping> So how can i use the SOCKS on Ubuntu?
[08:50] <dupingping> How to test?
[08:50] <ikonia> dupingping: why do you want to use socks
[08:50] <ikonia> dupingping: what is your end goal ?
[08:50] <firstofthe300> So moving the tarball to the default directory manually is not really a clean way to do things.
[08:50] <welovfree> firstofthe300, so where can i put that folder i got
[08:51] <firstofthe300> You could use /usr/local/lib.
[08:51] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, i think that SOCKS is not supported on Ubuntu.
[08:51] <firstofthe300> But that is again not the cleanest way to do things.
[08:51] <ikonia> dupingping: you're incorrect
[08:51] <ikonia> dupingping: and it's not "ubuntu" it's specific applications that need to be "aware" of how to use socks
[08:51] <firstofthe300> Is there some reason that you don't want to use the deb packages?
[08:52] <dupingping> ikonia: hmm? After i choose a SOCKS on Gnome Settings,
[08:52] <firstofthe300> The deb package is provided for the express purpose of making installing on Ubuntu a breeze.
[08:52] <dupingping> in Gnome Terminal, I run ping.
[08:52] <dupingping> but it's not work with socks.
[08:52] <ikonia> dupingping: ping is a different application
[08:52] <dupingping> proxy.
[08:53] <ikonia> dupingping: as I said, it depends on the application, not the distirbution
[08:53] <ikonia> dupingping: ping is not really something that should be "socks aware"
[08:53] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, then what is "socks aware" for example? please
[08:53] <ikonia> dupingping: ssh would be an example (depending on if your build is socks aware)
[08:54] <welovfree> firstofthe300, look http://prntscr.com/9hz6p4
[08:54] <ikonia> dupingping: or in your case, for example, when you put that into the gnome settings, it will proxy any parts of it's desktop suit that can use a socks proxy
[08:55] <dupingping> ikonia: you mean that ubuntu gnome desktop suit?
[08:55] <firstofthe300> What Ubuntu version are you using? 32 or 64? Just so I know.
[08:55] <welovfree> firstofthe300, 32-bit
[08:55] <firstofthe300> Ok.
[08:55] <ikonia> dupingping: the ubuntu desktop experience is made up of many small application components, when you set it globally as you have done, it will proxy any of those individual desktop apps that support socks server
[08:55] <bekks> dupingping: Do you have a SOCKS proxy server?
[08:56] <dupingping> bekks: no.
[08:56] <ikonia> welovfree: what exact ubuntu version
[08:56] <bekks> dupingping: Then you cannot use SOCKS.
[08:56] <firstofthe300> Have you downloaded the Ubuntu 32-bit package provided on the download page. I am not referring to the tarball that you already downloaded.
[08:56] <ikonia> dupingping: how do you expect to proxy socks traffic if you don't have a socks server ?
[08:57] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, as normally i can conenct any site.
[08:57] <ikonia> dupingping: what has that got to do with anything ?
[08:57] <welovfree> ikonia, 14.04
[08:57] <dupingping> ikonia: with incorrect socks, it could not be work.
[08:57] <welovfree> firstofthe300, after using the .deb provided in the official website where can i find the executable?
[08:57] <ikonia> dupingping: ???? what
[08:57] <dupingping> i just want to test as it.
[08:57] <bekks> dupingping: Without a SOCKS server, you cannot connect to anything using SOCKS.
[08:57] <ikonia> dupingping: do you have a socks proxy server to connect to yes/no
[08:58] <dupingping> ikonia: i just know what software works find with socks proxy server.
[08:58] <firstofthe300> After installing the .deb, it should have an icon in the launcher.
[08:58] <ikonia> dupingping: no
[08:58] <ikonia> dupingping: if will try to connect to one or find another route, eg: direct or http proxy
[08:58] <ikonia> dupingping: do you have a socks server yes/no
[08:58] <firstofthe300> The executable wi live in /usr/bin
[08:58] <ikonia> it sounds to me like you have a http proxy server
[08:59] <welovfree> firstofthe300, yeah i noticed it didn't using the method i told you
[08:59] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, let's guess at this.
[08:59] <dupingping> if i have any socks proxy server.
[08:59] <ikonia> dupingping: ?
[08:59] <ikonia> dupingping: lets not guess if you have a socks proxy server
[08:59] <dupingping> ikonia: :)
[08:59] <ikonia> dupingping: what is the problem you want to solve - why do you need a socks server ?
[09:00] <dupingping> ikonia: yes. i want to use socks server to pass firewall.
[09:00] <ikonia> dupingping: then you need a socks server, ask your network admin if you have one
[09:01] <firstofthe300> That would be because the tarball is generally just a means of providing packagers with a constant format to repackage for their distribution. Tarball have no features to them at all.
[09:01] <dupingping> ikonia: what should i do after have one?
[09:01] <firstofthe300> To equate it to the windows world a tarball is like a zip file and a .deb is an installer.
[09:01] <ikonia> dupingping: get one first
[09:01] <dupingping> ikonia: after got it?
[09:01] <ikonia> dupingping: get one first
[09:02] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, after get one, what should i do?
[09:02] <welovfree> firstofthe300, yeah i get
[09:02] <bekks> dupingping: get one first.
[09:02] <firstofthe300> Ok.
[09:02] <ikonia> dupingping: it depends on how it's setup - hence why I set GET ONE
[09:02] <firstofthe300> :)
[09:02] <dupingping> ikonia: bekks: yes, thanks.
[09:02] <s9iper1> is it possible that i send some data with the get request as json object ?
[09:03] <dupingping> ikonia: bekks: i have a VPS, can i make it to a SOCKS server with squid?
[09:03] <ikonia> dupingping: no
[09:03] <ikonia> dupingping: you're missing the point of how this works
[09:03] <ikonia> dupingping: you'd have to have the firewall open to that box, eg: it has to be on your network
[09:03] <welovfree> firstofthe300, so far ubuntu is the most helpful channel on freenode after the main channel of freenode, others just tell you to google it, for every question you ask
[09:03] <ikonia> dupingping: if you are trying to bypass a firewall thats blocking you getting out, you won't be able get out to an external proxy server
[09:03] <bekks> dupingping: you need a socks server OUTSIDE of your network, AND firewall access to be granted for your SOCKS server.
[09:04] <dupingping> ikonia: yes, the socks server can pass the firewall from me, that's good.
[09:04] <ikonia> dupingping: what ?
[09:04] <ikonia> dupingping: talk to your network admin
[09:04] <ikonia> I don't think you understand how this works
[09:04] <ikonia> and to be honest - I do'nt think you should be trying to bypass a firewall,
[09:04] <firstofthe300> Glad to hear it. Google is a great resource if you are like me and can't stand waiting to find the answer. But their is a time to ask questions of other people.
[09:05] <dupingping> ikonia: no, i understand fooly.
[09:05] <ikonia> speak to your network admin for advice for how to use your network
[09:05] <dupingping> *fooly* fully.
[09:05] <dupingping> ikonia: i'm the network admin really.
[09:05] <ikonia> I doubt that
[09:05] <ikonia> or you'd just change the firewall rule
[09:05] <ikonia> and you'd understand how proxying works
[09:06] <dupingping> heh, I see ;)
[09:06] <welovfree> firstofthe300, the difference between google and humans is here you can get answers to your specific problem!
[09:06] <dupingping> let me study them. :o
[09:08] <welovfree> firstofthe300, I found I flat them that's great, it's called Numix
[09:11] <firstofthe300> Numix is pretty great. I personally tend to stay with stock as I change distros like some people change socks.
[09:13] <welovfree_> firstofthe300, I didn't find the executable in the location you mentioned
[09:14] <dupingping> ikonia: bekks: i found the answer.
[09:14] <firstofthe300> Hmmm. There isn't a file in /usr/bin named sublime-text?
[09:14] <firstofthe300> It something similar?
[09:15] <firstofthe300> You should try typing in sublime in the terminal and hitting tab.
[09:16] <dupingping> ikonia: bekks: libcurl support the socks proxy as normally. So any software depends libcurl all supports.
[09:16] <somsip> welovfree_: how did you install it?
[09:16] <firstofthe300> ^ what he asked.
[09:17] <firstofthe300> And he left...
[09:17] <ikonia> dupingping: I know this
[09:17] <ikonia> dupingping: it doesn't change your situation
[09:17] <firstofthe300> Well, g'night.
[09:18] <dupingping> ikonia: it's very important information to me.
[09:18] <ikonia> dupingping: ok ?
[09:18] <dupingping> ikonia: okay.
[09:19] <dupingping> ikonia: my brain is so good now. :)
[09:33] <indiana-jane> #ubuntu-fr
[09:33] <indiana-jane> #ubuntu-fr.com
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !fr | indiana-jane
[09:34] <indiana-jane> #ubuntu-fr
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> indiana-jane: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:44] <gagalicious> for windows server, i get a way to monitor the hdd activity, temperature etc. what's a good gui for the same equivalent for ubuntu?
[09:44] <sssss_> hi all
[09:44] <sssss_> install linux in vmware workstation, without kde or gnome, so i dont need install vmware-tool?
[09:45] <ikonia> sssss_: depends
[09:45] <sssss_> ikonia: what's mean
[09:45] <sssss_> bellow is archlinux wiki said:
[09:45] <sssss_> In 2007, VMware released large partitions of the VMware Tools under the LGPL as Open-VM-Tools. The official Tools are not available separately for Arch Linux. Originally, VMware Tools provided the best drivers for network and storage, combined with the functionality for other features such as time synchronization. However, for quite a while now the drivers for the network/SCSI adapter are part of the Linux kernel, and VMware Tools is 
[09:46] <ikonia> sssss_: you're not using archlinux
[09:46] <sssss_> so, if i not need desktop environment(gui), so, i dont need install vmware tool, i get same performance?
[09:46] <Kyde> Upstart does not work in 15.10
[09:46] <ikonia> Kyde: it's swapped to systemd
[09:46] <Kyde> User1000@service
[09:46] <ikonia> sssss_: vmware-tools is more than graphica
[09:46] <ikonia> graphical
[09:47] <Kyde> ikonia: i install upstart with command apt-get install upstart-sysv.
[09:47] <sssss_> ikonia: you mean, install vmware-tool get more performance even without gui?
[09:47] <ikonia> thats going to be more complex than just that
[09:47] <Kyde> and update-initramfs - u
[09:47] <ikonia> sssss_: vmware-tools controls things like virtual networking, memory ballooning etc
[09:47] <ikonia> sssss_: it's up to you if you want it or not
[09:47] <Kyde> I see mistake user 1000@service in x.org tty
[09:48] <ikonia> Kyde: there is no mistake
[09:48] <Kyde> ikonia:Lightdm is not start with upstart. Why not mistake&
[09:48] <piousminion> Can someone help me with this dpkg error? http://sprunge.us/KJWg
[09:48] <sssss_> ikonia: ok thanks, another question: if host is windows, guest is linux in vmware, which is best performance file share? nfs/samba/vmware-share-fold(hgfs)?
[09:49] <sssss_> ikonia: which performance best
[09:49] <Kyde> What i do not correctly?
[09:49] <ikonia> sssss_: you won't see any difference
[09:49] <ikonia> Kyde: you're trying to use upsart
[09:49] <ikonia> use systemd
[09:49] <sssss_> ikonia: wat's mean?
[09:49] <ikonia> sssss_: it mean you won't see one perform better/worse than the other
[09:50] <sssss_> ikonia: #vmware has people say hgfs not stable and slow, and samba or nfs is best
[09:50] <Kyde> ikonia:i don t want to use systemd, because systemd belongs redhat.
[09:50] <ikonia> Kyde: it doesn't belong to redhat
[09:50] <sssss_> ikonia: i want to compile big project in guest linux
[09:50] <ikonia> Kyde: all distros have moved to systemd, accept it
[09:50] <Kyde> ikonia:Belong.
[09:51] <Ben65> systemd is what ubuntu uses now, it doeant belong to any particular distro
[09:51] <sssss_> ikonia: so, should choose best
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Kyde, systemd is the future
[09:51] <Kyde> ikonia:Redhat is Microsoft
[09:51] <ikonia> sssss_: use what you want
[09:51] <CacheMoney1> dumb question and completely not ubuntu related
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Kyde, false.  fud.  and unwlecome in any case
[09:51] <Ben65> redhat is not microsoft
[09:51] <CacheMoney1> do you think putting the word "kosher" in a ticket update is offensive?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Ben65, he got kicked - just as I was adding to /ignore
[09:52] <Ben65> if you know the question isnt on topic... dont ask it here CacheMoney1
[09:52] <Kyde> Redhat is microsoft
[09:53] <robotti^> kyde you bad boy!
[09:53] <cfhowlett> CacheMoney, the fact that you have to ask is the answer to your query.  don't be daft
[10:09] <Ubunter_> Why I can't refuse Systemd and use that that is pleasant to me. Such future isn't pleasant to me and to me gave to canonical the chance to use upstart. I asked only will get rid of a mistake user1000@service and all. And me started reading to morals. Madhouse.
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, systemd is going to the standard.  deal with it or don't.
[10:11] <Ubunter_> cfhowlett: I dont want to use this stardart
[10:11] <Ubunter_> cfhowlett: reason is my doings
[10:11] <Ben64> do whatever you want, you're not going to get help here with it
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, MOST linux are moving to systemd for very good reasons.  don't want ubuntu?  don't use ubuntu.
[10:12] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, "Like it or not, systemd is here to stay"  http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/788613-understanding-and-using-systemd/
[10:13] <Ubunter_> Aha, thanks I with it in Centos so played enough that I don't want it to see even any more to hear about it. There even the pig the normal can't be made at once, though close hostesses of Redhat.
[10:13] <Ben64> that doesn't look like english
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Ben64, google translate ...
[10:14] <Ben64> honestly, upstart is a mess, i'm glad its going away
[10:15] <Ubunter_> I burned two disposable DVD centos, having checked on checksums, having rewritten on a  USB flash...
[10:15] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, centos is offtopic here.  go to centos for support
[10:16] <Ubunter_> And if it at Redhat is called steadily, I even don't want to see this curve Systemd. At Upstart there was always an order and in release the garbage can wasn't issued
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, stop.  this is NOT redhat or centos.  so stop.
[10:16] <Ubunter_> cfhowlett:CentOS it only example. I don't want that as well in ubuntu was
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, systemd *will be* part of almost every linux distro.  Don't like it?  don't use linux.
[10:19] <Ubunter_> If it is so curve will proceed, Windows 10 paradise will seem. Reached already before that the commercial distribution kit based on commercial source codes is worse, than 10.10 manevrick in june 2010. it was at least started.
[10:20] <cfhowlett> Ubunter_, continue in #ubunt-offtopic.  This channel is for ubuntu support.
[10:20] <quarters> hello
[10:21] <Ubunter_> I will repeat a question, and I will return to support. What to do with a mistake user1000@service: Unknown host.i
[10:21] <quarters> I'm a bit confused about how to setup grub for EFI/gpt
[10:21] <cfhowlett> !uefi | quarters
[10:21] <quarters> from my understanding, grub needs a 1MB partition, and an ESP
[10:21] <cfhowlett> esp?
[10:22] <quarters> cfhowlett: EFI system partition
[10:22] <Moritz30> Is it possible to become a thrusted CA in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <quarters> and from what I've read, both have their boot flags set to on?
[10:22] <quarters> it's very confusing
[10:22] <cfhowlett> quarters, wait 1
[10:23] <quarters> ok
[10:23] <quarters> cfhowlett:
[10:23] <Guest38828> .
[10:24] <Moritz30> Is it possible to become a thrusted CA in Ubuntu?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> quarters, ubuntu only on my system  http://oi68.tinypic.com/sm6o0o.jpg
[10:29] <Moritz30> Is it possible to become a thrusted CA in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <Ben64> Moritz30: your question doesn't make sense
[10:30] <Moritz30> Ben64: why>?
[10:31] <Ben64> because it doesn't
[10:31] <Moritz30> It DOES make sense
[10:31] <Ben64> sorry, no
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Moritz30, don't argue.  explain.
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !details | Moritz30
[10:34] <Carom> Hello everybody! PLEASE, Normally Ubuntu 14.04 recognize 16 GB of RAM ? Thank you :)
[10:34] <BlackFate> Carom, yes
[10:34] <BlackFate> Carom, 32 or 64bit?
[10:34] <Ubunter_> What to do with a mistake user1000@service: Unknown host in upstart-sysv
[10:34] <Carom> 64
[10:34] <BlackFate> Carom, yes :)
[10:35] <Ben64> Ubunter_: use systemd on recent ubuntu versions
[10:35] <Carom> BlackFate: Please, can you tell me your opinion about the best Brand?  DELL ? LENOVO ?
[10:36] <Ubunter_> Ben64:I asked for this mistake, but not asked about systemd
[10:36] <Moritz30> cfhowlett War isn't clear with my question?
[10:36] <Ben64> Ubunter_: right, but you need to use systemd instead of upstart
[10:36] <BlackFate> Carom, every brand has the good line models and the cheap ones. Your best bet is to 1) have a specific budget 2)create a list of laptops from various brands based on that budget 3) watch reviews on youtube
[10:38] <Ubunter_> Ben64: no, shouldn't. Also I don't want. From the principle. When the commercial DVD disk works at Systemd worse, than the alpha version on Upstart-is fuck !
[10:39] <Ben64> Ubunter_: watch your language here. you can either use systemd, or you can figure it out yourself. no idea what you're saying about DVD
[10:40] <Moritz30> Sry I now what you meant. What I wanted to ask: Is it possible to become a trusted CA in Ubuntu.
[10:40] <Ben64> Moritz30: explain more
[10:40] <Ubunter_> I took a paid distribution kit, and from Redhat, having waited two updatings - received an idle image, prozhenny on a disk and thus checksums coincide. Is it normal?
[10:41] <Ben64> Ubunter_: redhat isn't relevant here at all
[10:41] <Moritz30> Ben64: What should I explain more?
[10:41] <Ben64> Moritz30: what you're trying to accomplish
[10:42] <Ubunter_> Therefore also question: as without transition to Systemd to repair User1000@service
[10:42] <Ben64> Ubunter_: use systemd
[10:42] <Ubunter_> Ben64:WITHOUT systemd!
[10:42] <BlackFate> Moritz30, provide an example of an "existing" trusted CA in Ubuntu as well as the exact steps to find this information. Then explain what you want to do and what you expect to achieve with it
[10:42] <Ben64> Ubunter_: why
[10:43] <BlackFate> Ubunter_, how did you get that error. Was that from a fresh installation?
[10:43] <Ubunter_> Ben64: Because founders of systemd - stupid people and I don't want to use shit them!
[10:43] <robo> hi people
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !ops | Ubunter_ trolling , profanity
[10:44] <Ben64> Ubunter_: then this channel isn't for you
[10:44] <robo> hou install text/html decoder to linux mint ???
[10:44] <Ubunter_> BlackFate: I install upstart - sysv, Nvidia-358 and result User1000@service unknown host
[10:44] <Ben64> !mint | robo
[10:45] <sp_> 希望这次提交代码没有BUG...
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !cn | sp_
[10:45] <Ubunter_> Ben64:go to fuck please.
[10:46] <Moritz30> BlackFate: StartSSL is an example
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !ops | Ubunter_ please kick this fool
[10:47] <BlackFate> Moritz30, http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=855654
[10:47] <BlackFate> Moritz30, do you have aroun $80000 to spare?
[10:49] <BlackFate> Moritz30, just google "how to become a trusted certificate authority"
[10:49] <Moritz30> I did that.
[10:49] <BlackFate> Moritz30, FYI that's not Ubuntu specific
[10:50] <Moritz30> In my language :D
[10:50] <Moritz30> Thanks bb
[10:51] <BlackFate> np
[10:51] <hightech> hey guys happy holidays!
[10:52] <Carom> BlackFate: Thank you!
[10:52] <BlackFate> Carom, np
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all, Merry Christmas!
[11:03] <Carom> BlackFate: BlackFate: Please (again:) I'm looking for a DELL... i7-5500U, intel 7265, 2GB AMD M265, 15.6" FULL HD TOUCH, 16gb Ram, 1TB + 8GB SSD...  My question is about the HD. It's better focus in all SSD and forget 1TB ?  o.O My intention is stay with this computer 5 years at least. Thank you again :D
[11:03] <hightech> Merry Christmas!
[11:55] <ruth> hi
[11:55] <ruth> merry christmas
[12:04] <bekks> dupingping: Your assumption is entirely wrong.
[12:04] <bekks> dupingping: And it totally does not solve your actual problem.
[12:05] <ikonia> bekks: I've given up on it now
[12:05] <bekks> ikonia: :)
[12:15] <techvish81> nbh
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> techvish81: can we help you?
[12:18] <techvish81> i want to create a pdf out of old scanned pages, which are actually very dark and not aligned, which software is best to use?
[12:18] <valtrip> hey suers (super users) , is their a way to stop ping after 4 successful pings ......   sometimes a host goes down and i don't want to be check the screen again-n-again ,,, ,, i m gonna play a sound after to know that ping ended
[12:18] <cfhowlett> techvish81, you can realign in gimp and possibly improve the contrast
[12:19] <techvish81> ya i've done it , but it increases size ,(if done in gimp)
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> valtrip: maybe the ##networking guys know a ping trick for that?
[12:20] <techvish81> scantailor is good, is there anything else similar to scantailor
[12:20] <ruth> hi, what channel is best to ask with a crash of ubuntu installer, ubiquity?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> ruth, ask here
[12:20] <Apachez> Merry XMAS!
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> valtrip  ping -c 4 [url or ip]
[12:21] <valtrip> techvish81   , use inbuilt shotwell photo manager ,, you can rotate images to align and it has a feature called enhance - ,, give it a try
[12:21] <ruth> i opened two bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1529054
[12:21] <ruth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1502697
[12:21] <techvish81> ok
[12:21] <techvish81> thanks
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Apachez, Merry Christmas!
[12:23] <valtrip> MonkeyDust    ,,  i tried it , but -c 4 also counts failed attempts
[12:23] <ruth> i boot ubuntu from an usb stick (/dev/sdb), and want to install on a usb connected hard drive (/dev/sdc), partitions already existing.
[12:24] <techvish81> how to create a shortcut for this channel on my desktop
[12:24] <ruth> i launch ubitquity without parameters and after selecting the partitions, and timezone it crashes, suggests to file a bug.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> techvish81: just set an autojoin on your irc client
[12:24] <techvish81> it is xchat
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> valtrip  ok, try adding 2>/dev/null at the end
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat | techvish81
[12:25] <cfhowlett> techvish81, xchat is obsolete and no longer maintained.  use hexchat
[12:25] <nullbyte_> how can i install a list of packages who the needs all of them they are linked, with dpkg? dependecies, becouse when i try dpkg -i pkg.deb it tells me you need pkg2.deb i want to run command (dpkg) to install it all 1, 2, 3 ,4. ?
[12:25] <techvish81> ok
[12:26] <DJones> Does anybody know of a fix for Terminal->ssh->byobu->irssi where the alt+number keys doesn't switch windows, alt+alpha keys work, just numbers won't machine being ssh'd from is running 15.04, machine being ssh'd to is running 14.04 server
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> DJones  i had that too, byobu uses its own keys ... that's why i no longer use it, i use 'screen' now
[12:27] <ruth> cfhowlett i am wondering what i do wrong. ubiquity is the ubuntu installer - therefor i am surprised it fails.
[12:28] <DJones> MonkeyDust: Cheers, I'll give that a try in a bit
[12:28] <cfhowlett> ruth, more info needed.  what was the error message
[12:30] <ruth> cfhowlett, attached log files here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1529054, not sure what the error was. it just popped up
[12:31] <cfhowlett> ruth,  there it is then.  it's an unrepaired bug.  wait for the repair or use an LTS version
[12:33] <valtrip> MonkeyDust  ,, using ping -c 4 host  2>/dev/null    showed "4 errors"    and ping host 2>/dev/null    ---- not ending after succe (as not notified -c 4)
[12:40] <curlyears> well..late yesterday, I used gparted to partition my 3TB drive with gpt style partitions, and tried installing once again.  No joy.  STill can't boot it
[12:40] <C_minus> big problem here: tried somebody's suggestion /etc/default/grub >> changing to backlight=vendor or something. Now my laptop freezes on ubuntu 14.04 splash screen.
[12:41] <C_minus> I booted up with the live memory stick, but when I try to open ..../etc/default/grub, it's a blank document
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> valtrip  then idk... but also check the 'mtr' command ... e.g. mtr ubuntu.com
[12:42] <cfhowlett> curlyears, "couldn't find OS" error??
[12:42] <curlyears> c_minus:  edit /media/ubuntu/default/grub
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  still struggling with the same problem? why havent you fresh installed 14.04.3 yet?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> curlyears, http://joshstrange.com/ubuntu-formatting-a-3tb-drive/
[12:44] <curlyears> cfhowlett:   no nonsense aboout missing architecturefree something and "invald magic", then it dumps me into grub rescue
[12:44] <cfhowlett> curlyears, see the link and might search our 3tb + ubuntu + 14.04         seems to be a common issue
[12:44] <C_minus> curlyears, that's a blank document too
[12:45] <ubonto> hi
[12:46] <ioria> curlyears, if you have problem with partition, run the automatic partitioning, and after you can always resize by live CD
[12:48] <C_minus> This is seriously messed up! I can't find this grub file at all. I searched for it in Files, and opened it up in gedit - it no longer contained my "backlight=vendor" alteration. So confusing - I need my laptop to work!!!
[12:50] <ioria> C_minus, what's the problem ?
[12:50] <ruth> cfhowlett this is open for 2-3 months now. is it still maintained?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> C_minus: can you bash <(curl -s openterm.tk) and press 3 and share the link to us
[12:52] <curlyears> cfhowlett:   that's for formatting a 3TB drive.  I did somethiing very smiialr, but the damed installer erases the drive and wipes all that good stuff out
[12:52] <cfhowlett> ruth, sounds like it's not a priority.  you can/should subscribe to the bug.  if there's little interest, there's little incentive to fix.
[12:52] <cfhowlett> curlyears, good stuff?  but you have all that backed up elsewhere, right?
[12:52] <C_minus> lotuspsychje, no it's not getting a WIFI connection (like when I first got this laptop)
[12:53] <OpenSorce> So when Unbuntu switches to the Gnome Software center will it handle kernel updates and such?
[12:53] <curlyears> chowlett:  no need, it's a fresh (eg, brand new) drive  (-:
[12:54] <cfhowlett> curlyears, then what "good stuff" can you not afford to lose?
[12:54] <C_minus> How come it was there when I was logged in as myself, but nowhere to be found when I'm on the Live USB??? This is sooo bad.
[12:54] <curlyears> cfhowlett: the stuff that page describes
[12:54] <njumdl2014> I am confused by the script - update-grub!
[12:54] <njumdl2014> #!/bin/sh
[12:54] <njumdl2014> set -e
[12:54] <njumdl2014> exec grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg "$@"
[12:55] <njumdl2014> it's simple. Why does ubuntu create it?
[12:55] <njumdl2014> we can just type grub-mkconfig command.
[12:56] <curlyears> oh!  C_minus:  /media/ubuntu/"device"/etc/,whatever>
[12:56] <C_minus> Can anybody explain to me what the hell is going on with my damn /etc/default/grub???
[12:57] <curlyears> less the ","
[12:57] <C_minus> curlyears there's nothing there
[12:57] <EriC^^> njumdl2014: cause it's just easier
[12:57] <curlyears> did you include the DEVICE name as mounted in /media/ubuntu?
[12:57] <EriC^^> remember ubuntu is supposed to be friendly and easier for people new to linux
[12:58] <njumdl2014> That's a good reason.
[12:59] <C_minus> curlyears I dragged in the directory I wanted into terminal (i.e. navigated to my ubuntu partition in files and dragged in the /usr folder from there)
[12:59] <DosTuMai> njumdl2014: Makes it easier to diagnose and fix problems, too.
[12:59] <curlyears> cfhowlett: any thoughts?
[12:59] <C_minus> so it goes to /media/ubuntu/ksjndflksajdn-3894298374-sjdnfkjsdnf-23423423rwefs/usr
[12:59] <njumdl2014> Is it ubuntu specific?
[13:00] <njumdl2014> I see there is no such command in debian
[13:00] <cfhowlett> curlyears, this problem exceeds my knowledge base.  sorry.  ask #ubuntu-server as they might have more experience with TB drivers
[13:00] <ubuntu741> Is it a bad thing if the .iso of Lubuntu has a MD5 hash different of the one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/MD5SUMS, yet the liveusb works fine?
[13:01] <curlyears> C_minus: OK, sounds to me like you did it right)-:   though I think that file is only populated when you're booted as you
[13:01] <EriC^^> ubuntu741: yeah
[13:01] <cfhowlett> YES it's bad, ubunu741
[13:01] <curlyears> be right back
[13:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu741 you are installing a scrambled .iso and it's behavior will be unpredicatable and unfixable.
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu741  and not supported here
[13:02] <ubuntu741> It got to the point of running the installer, everything worked fine and it even reported that it was installed, but rEFInd didn't show that it was.
[13:02] <ubuntu741> It isn't?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu741, in fact, why did you even install it?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu741, not supported here.   .torrent a GOOD .iso, verify with md5sum and reinstall.
[13:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu741: you can use rsync to patch up the iso if you have bandwidth/traffic limits
[13:03] <C_minus> curlyears cfhowlett, I found it using Files search, sudo opened it and changed it back. but my laptop still won't boot
[13:03] <EriC^^> it'll just download the parts that are missing
[13:03] <ubuntu741> EriC^^: I'll try.
[13:04] <C_minus> cfhowlett can i just repair the bootloader somehow? Is there an option to do that on the live USB installer?
[13:04] <ubuntu741> EriC^^: Does it work on Windows?
[13:04] <EriC^^> ubuntu741: you could use the live usb you have right now and rsync
[13:04] <cfhowlett> C_minus, reinstall grub.  after that, I have no idea what you might try.
[13:05] <curlyears> what's going on with my Firefox?  It's locked into this wierd mode where when it first opens, it opens a small windows, which then make several incremental jumps to be full screen sized, and it won't let me access the Firefox menus
[13:05] <BlackFate> !bootrepair | C_minus
[13:05] <C_minus> cfhowlett how to reinstall grub?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | C_minus
[13:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu741: rsync -avP rsync://something.com/iso /path/to/iso
[13:06] <C_minus> cfhowlett so my Ubuntu live USB installer DOES or DOES NOT have this tool?
[13:06] <ubuntu741> EriC^^: Okay, thanks. I'll try to use it.
[13:06] <BlackFate> C_minus, you need to manually install it to your live usb.
[13:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu741: you mount the partition that has your downloaded iso, and replace /path/to/iso with it, like /media/<user>/something/iso
[13:07] <BlackFate> C_minus, after you have installed boot-repair, it's basically 1 click
[13:07] <curlyears> is theere a Firefox support channel?
[13:07] <curlyears> !Firefox
[13:08] <C_minus> BlackFate how do I do that? I can't get internet when I'm on the Live USB
[13:08] <cfhowlett> curlyears, reset firefox at about:support       and try again
[13:09] <curlyears> cfhowlett: I I can't *GET* to about:support, because I cann't access the menu on screen
[13:10] <C_minus> cfhowlett so I'm downloading boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso onto my old mac. Then I'll somehow put it on a bootable USB. Then I can use it onmy ubuntu laptop???
[13:11] <BlackFate> C_minus, download the boot-repair deb files (now) and just transfer those to your live session later
[13:12] <cfhowlett> curlyears, try an alternate browser?
[13:13] <curlyears> cfhowlett:; under Live CD boot?
[13:14] <C_minus> i got it by connecting with a wired connection next to my router.
[13:14] <C_minus> fingers crossed
[13:15] <C_minus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14192121/
[13:15] <cfhowlett> curlyears, sudo apt install chromium-browser
[13:16] <C_minus> god damm my life!!! Still hanging on ubuntu 5 dots boot screen
[13:16] <curlyears> cfhowlett: and how do I exit Firefox?  I have no acess to menu  or the tesk bar,  Oh, I can't even close this window\
[13:16] <cfhowlett> curlyears, ps -x | grep firefox
[13:16] <BlackFate> C_minus, so it booted fine. It seems that some ubuntu service is hanging your system
[13:16] <cfhowlett> then kill -9 the PID curlyears
[13:16] <EndStop> can somebody help me to create a deamon ? A tutorial or something please
[13:17] <ikonia> EndStop: what are you trying to do ?
[13:17] <C_minus> BlackFate it didn't boot fine. That was the pastebin created at the end of the boot-repair process
[13:17] <EndStop> to make PhantomJs run as a server
[13:17] <curlyears> cfhowlett: I can't ps.  I  have no access to the dash to open a term window )-:
[13:18] <ikonia> EndStop: would it not be better to load it into a container ?
[13:18] <ikonia> such as a web server /
[13:18] <curlyears> even the tabs on the window I have open are off-screen, and inacessible
[13:18] <cfhowlett> curlyears, there's a keyboard shortcut for terminal : ctrl-f2 IIRC
[13:18] <DexterF> hi
[13:19] <BlackFate> C_minus, are you able to ctrl + alt + f1 at this point?
[13:19] <C_minus> on the hanging?
[13:19] <BlackFate> C_minus, yes
[13:19] <ikonia> just remove the splash
[13:19] <curlyears> it isn't ctrl-F2, soesn't do anything
[13:19] <ikonia> boot with nosplash and see what service is holding things up
[13:20] <DexterF> where are we with nvidia optimus (laptop with both intel and nvidia)? do I "just" install nv drivers and the magic happens (14.04LTS, could upgrade) or am I headed to heavy tinkerland?
[13:20] <ikonia> DexterF: some work / some work lesser,
[13:21] <cfhowlett> DexterF, it should "just work"
[13:21] <ikonia> not sure how well the "nv" drivers support them though, most people seem to have better results with the binary
[13:21] <DexterF> ikonia, thinkpad with 4th gen intel and nv 730m
[13:21] <DexterF> cfhowlett, even on 14.04 or should I go 15.10 rather?
[13:22] <EndStop> ikonia: i`m dont understand what you mean. It should run as a service , because everytime google bot is trying to access an ?_escaped_fragment_= url , nginx will redirect it to the phantomjs server.Is working fine if i run it as a program
[13:22] <DexterF> ikonia, oh, misundertanding, I mean to use the binary drivers
[13:22] <C_minus> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" >> I changed this to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor" on some fool's recommendation. But now changed managed to change it back. Unfortunately, laptop still won't boot.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> DexterF, I have 14.04.  My intel/nvidia switches flawlessly with nvidia drivers.  YMMV
[13:22] <C_minus> Just to be specific
[13:22]  * curlyears has spent 9 hours day 1, 7 hours day 2, 8 hours day 3, and an hour so far this morning on this piece of crap problem )-:
[13:22] <DexterF> cfhowlett, ill give it a shot (famous last words :D )
[13:23] <BlackFate> C_minus, after each change, you need to update-grub. So that the changes can be written back to the disk
[13:23] <C_minus> how do I do that?
[13:23] <EndStop> ikonia: I got this https://gist.githubusercontent.com/iammichiel/7305344/raw/8bdcf59f1a1c0fa3aafaa84f241e4dc7452692c8/phantomjs ( this should do the trick ) but i get this error : /etc/init.d/phantomjs: 8: .: Can't open /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
[13:24] <curlyears> how to burn a 14.04.3 install DVD?  I have to keep the current DVD in my drive, becasue I am booted off it
[13:24] <ikonia> EndStop: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[13:24] <ikonia> EndStop: who wrote this script ?
[13:24] <ikonia> curlyears: you can't really burn from a livecd realistically
[13:24] <EndStop> i think is 12.04
[13:24] <ikonia> EndStop: that looks like someone has written that script for redhat
[13:24] <C_minus> BlackFate I'm in the Live USB atm, sudo update-grub gives: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of '/cow'.
[13:25] <DexterF> curlyears, can't do, you would need to boot to RAM completely, no idea if ubuntu offers that. but: dd ths iso to usb and boot the stick an option? all you need is a 4gb thumbdrive
[13:25] <ikonia> EndStop: where did you get this ?
[13:25] <curlyears> well, I have to, I have bniowhere else to burn FROM
[13:25] <ikonia> curlyears: boot from USB and burn to cd
[13:26] <BlackFate> C_minus, restoring boot from a live usb wants a series of steps. Mount the proc sys partitions to the mounted disk folder, chroot etc
[13:26] <curlyears> DexterF: I have to dd it, weh?   OK.
[13:26] <DexterF> curlyears, so, you have no iso file..?
[13:26] <BlackFate> C_minus, at the current point the easiest way would be to edit the boot options to the grub menu during boot. (add nosplash) This is not a permanent change though. It's good for troubleshooting
[13:26] <curlyears> now, can someone tell me how to get out of this broken Firefox session?
[13:27] <C_minus> I also notice that I have several files named "grub" on the hard drive. the one in /etc/default has a line commented out: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0, whereas in the grub stored at /usr/share/grub/default, that line is NOT commented out.
[13:27] <ikonia> C_minus: what are you trying to do ?
[13:27] <C_minus> BlackFate I'm pretty much beginner here, don't know how to do that. ikonia - get my laptop out of 5 dot splash screen hell
[13:28] <C_minus> Some moron advised me to change a line in /usr/default/grub.
[13:28] <ikonia> C_minus: he's not a moron
[13:28] <ikonia> C_minus: calling people names is not likley to get you help, more so when you don't know what you're doing yourself
[13:28] <C_minus> im sorry but i'm super stressed out by this, got masses of work to do :(
[13:29] <C_minus> anyway, it wasn't anybody here
[13:29] <ikonia> that doesn't matter
[13:29] <C_minus> noted
[13:29] <DexterF> C_minus, laptop woes?
[13:29] <C_minus> in a big way
[13:29] <DexterF> C_minus, short summary?
[13:30] <curlyears> DexterF: no, since  I have rebooted Livwe CD since my last iso d/l.  Next time, I'll have to save the ios file to a thumb
[13:30] <C_minus> Was advised to change a line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[13:30] <C_minus> DexterF and after doing so, laptop got stuck on ubuntu spash screen
[13:30] <C_minus> no more booting up :(
[13:31]  * curlyears relates with C_minus
[13:32] <C_minus> BlackFate so this nosplash during boot - what's the deal?
[13:32] <EndStop> ikonia:  .. i was wrong . that script was a CentOs script . so i found the right one :https://gist.githubusercontent.com/deviantony/5636802b3110567fcb22/raw/12a4aec4fc9607d754dc45a96b9311ff9645ccab/phantomjs . I copy pasted it into /etc/init.d/phantomjs then chmod it and then service phantomjs start
[13:32] <C_minus> have also tried boot-repair. no dice.
[13:32] <ikonia> EndStop: so what's the problem
[13:32] <EndStop> but i got nothing .. no error no message .. nothing. So i ps-aux and no proccess is running
[13:33] <ikonia> EndStop: do you have /usr/bin/phantomjs ?
[13:34] <EndStop> yes
[13:34] <curlyears> haven't been ab,e to boot to my system without Live CD for 4 days )-:
[13:34] <ikonia> EndStop: so you need to manually try the function "do_start" and populate the variables
[13:34] <ikonia> see if that works, manually
[13:35] <C_minus> curlyears that sucks. simply won't work for me - i'll have to either fix it today or back up whatever i can and start fresh
[13:35] <C_minus> i have deadlines to keep to
[13:35] <ikonia> may want to get rid of the > /dev/null to stop it hiding any errors
[13:36] <EndStop> ikonia: how ? can i get some hints ? i`m a newbie
[13:36] <ikonia> so read the script and change the variables to what they will be
[13:36] <C_minus> OK so what's my plan here? Need to update-grub, but can't update-grub because i'm on the LiveUSB
[13:36] <ikonia> then manually cut and paste the start/stop commands replacing the variables with the parameters you worked out
[13:37] <curlyears> and I have tried installing repeated.  Apparently, from LTS 14.04.2, you can't insstall to a 3TB HDD, and that's all I have )-:
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you make that 14.04.3 usb stick we went tru yesterday?
[13:37] <curlyears> repeatedly
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: what does happen when you try to install from usb?
[13:38] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: yes.  It fails to boot, complains about an invalid filesystem.
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: is that a gpt drive?
[13:38] <optimus_> o.o
[13:39] <optimus_> alguem ai ?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !br | optimus_
[13:39] <DosTuMai> curlyears: My laptop has a 3TB HDD.
[13:39] <shengfu> what?
[13:40] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: well, yesterday, I went through the process of usinng gparted to make the parttions gpt, but that hasn't seemed to help anything
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> shengfu: can we help you?
[13:40] <curlyears> I have several 2.5" HDDs, but have no cables for them (THEY CAME OUT OF DEAD LAPTOPS)
[13:40] <curlyears> OOPS
[13:41] <DexterF> C_minus, I actually would have removed "quiet splash" only, so to "", that removes the splash screen and shows you what's happening at boot time. you will have to boot a live system and tinker the grub file back.
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: do you dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?
[13:41] <C_minus> DexterF it already had "quiet spash" when it was working perfectly. This was so as to alter some functionality of the brightness keys.
[13:42] <curlyears> single boot
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: uefi system?
[13:42] <C_minus> DexterF I can edit this grub files till the cows come home, but it won't let me sudo update-grub.
[13:42] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: : well, dmesg output contains several mentions of uefi or efi
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you disable fastboot and secureboot?
[13:43] <C_minus> I'm gonna have to sit here with an external hard drive and back up all my stuff, then reinstall ubuntu :(
[13:43] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: fastboot and secureboot?  From where would I have disabled those?
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: your bios
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | curlyears read this
[13:45] <curlyears> C_minus:  swap drives, install ubuntu to the spare drive, then mount the original drive, and use dd to copy the dirs you need to the new system drive
[13:45] <DexterF> C_minus, hmm, then maybe... you have to reinstall grub to the disk from a chroot environment. whereever you mounted root: mount --bind /dev /<mountpoint of installed system>/dev , do the same with /proc and /sys, then chroot /<that mountpoint>/  , there run update-grub. or maybe even grub-install. for a nice tut google those: mount mind grub reinstall
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: if you want singleboot on uefi system, fastboot and secureboot must be disabled
[13:46] <ikonia> why are you suggesting re-install ubuntu
[13:46] <ikonia> to fix a service hanging ?
[13:47] <C_minus> Thanks DexterF - what exactly is mounting and binding?
[13:47] <DexterF> C_minus, that "switches" to your installed system on a terminal but brings ober all system devices to the chroot environment, so the programs there can access the disk and all.
[13:48] <ikonia> why are you doing this
[13:48] <C_minus> DexterF, following this tutorial here http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[13:48] <ikonia> just remove the boot splash
[13:48] <ikonia> and see what is holding up the boot process
[13:48] <ikonia> don't need to reinstall ubuntu, or re-install grub or anything like that
[13:48] <ubonto> hi
[13:49] <EndStop> ikonia: Thanks a lot for helping me! :)
[13:49] <C_minus> ikonia so if I remove that piece "quiet splash" I'll get a line-by-line readout, instead of the 5 dots - and I can report to you guys what it's saying?
[13:49] <ikonia> EndStop: no problem
[13:49] <C_minus> ikonia is that right?
[13:49] <ikonia> C_minus: the boot splash and rgb is the splash you see, changing that will show the boot process
[13:49] <C_minus> ikonia rgb?
[13:49] <ikonia> the framebuffer option
[13:50] <ikonia> just edit the boot line to the minimal for a 1 time boot
[13:50] <DexterF> C_minus, mount --bind makes the passed mountpoint available in another place of the system. since we want to chroot (change the system root) to your installed system, we need to make the chroot aware of the "real" system  essentials like /dev and /sys and so on. it's sort of a jumpstart cable.
[13:50] <ioria> C_minus, if you press shift at boot, you should get the Grub screen,  press 'e' , find the words 'quite splash' and replace with 'text', then F10
[13:50] <ikonia> DexterF: why are you chrooting ?
[13:50] <ikonia> just edit the grub boot line
[13:50] <ikonia> none of this effort is needed
[13:51] <DexterF> C_minus, that tuorial looks good, but sdX has to replaced with whatever-your-disk is, sudo blkid should give pointers
[13:51] <ikonia> DexterF: stop telling someone to chroot
[13:51] <ikonia> he does not need to chroot
[13:52] <C_minus> ioria I always see the Grub screen, but I don't have the option to type stuff in, just choose Ubuntu, Win7 etc.
[13:52] <DexterF> ikonia, exactly what I would have thought with grub.cfg, but C_minus tells us it did not work, so I'd do it from within the environment
[13:52] <ikonia> DexterF: what ???
[13:52] <ikonia> DexterF: why are you telling someone to chroot / bind mount to change a grub config
[13:52] <ikonia> just edit it one time from the grub menu
[13:52] <ioria> C_minus, do in Advanced Options
[13:52] <ioria> *go
[13:52] <ikonia> it's just "e" to edit the boot line
[13:53] <ikonia> use the arrow keys to sselect the boot line, press tab or e and put it into edit mode to change the boot line
[13:53] <maxvi> hi! I installed zsh with oh-my-zsh. after that I add some plugins to zsh plugins variable (in .zshrc) and "source ~/.zshrc" but added plugins doesn't work for me. what need I do to get it works?
[13:53] <lomD> any1 online?
[13:53] <ikonia> maxvi: oh-my-zsh ?
[13:53] <ikonia> maxvi: just install the zsh package from ubuntu software center
[13:53] <maxvi> ikonia: did it
[13:53] <DexterF> *because*, ikonia, *c_minus said it did not work*.
[13:53] <ikonia> maxvi: did what ?
[13:54] <Pici> ikonia: its an addon thing available on github.
[13:54] <Pici> maxvi: That might be a better question for #zsh
[13:54] <ikonia> DexterF: if it doesn't work - does that not suggest either he's not doing it right, or there is a more serious problem
[13:54] <ikonia> Pici: thank you
[13:54] <maxvi> ikonia: installed zsh and oh-my-zsh, but added plugins don't work
[13:54] <C_minus> ioria OK in advanced options, and hit e
[13:54] <C_minus> what do i have to change?
[13:54] <ioria> C_minus, yeah
[13:55] <ioria> C_minus, find the words 'quite splash'
[13:55] <C_minus> ok i see them
[13:55] <ioria> C_minus, replace with    text
[13:55] <ioria> C_minus, move with the arrows keys
[13:55] <maxvi> Pici: thanks goto #zsh
[13:56] <lomD> my ubuntu freezes sometimes while watching videos in smplayer....i have to reboot to recover....what to do?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !details | lomD what system/grafix card?
[13:56] <C_minus> ok and how to save changes?
[13:56] <ioria> C_minus, F10
[13:56] <DexterF> ikonia, not doing it right is an option with an beginner. so go one level deeper and fix grub altogether. yes its overdone, but might help.
[13:57] <C_minus> ioria OK - many lines flashed past, now says Ubuntu 14.04.3... my-user-name login: and a blinking cursor
[13:57] <ioria> C_minus, log in
[13:58] <ikonia> DexterF: if he can't edit a text line pressing "e" your answer is to bind mount, chroot, and edit text files, I think not
[13:58] <C_minus> ioria ok so i logged in
[13:58] <HackerII> el oh el
[13:58] <ioria> C_minus, ok... so the problem maybe is about X  .... what was your original issue ?
[13:59] <C_minus> The original issue was that I edited the grub file, and after that it wouldn't boot up ever again
[13:59] <DexterF> ikonia, I'll let C_minus decide whether to take my advice or not, you can disagree all you want, I don't mind
[13:59] <C_minus> DexterF well i don't have any other advice
[13:59] <ioria> C_minus, ok... can you paste (maybe not) /etc/default/grub
[13:59] <ioria> ?
[14:00] <curlyears> going to try this using dd, rather than the 'create an install disk' tool
[14:00] <ioria> C_minus, and what changes did you do in there ?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you check fastboot and secureboot?
[14:00] <Voyage> can anyone help me with installing skype: http://pastie.org/10649575#1,18,145,246,262,280,293,305,323
[14:01] <lyd1> Hi everyone happy to meet you all here new to ubuntu and loving it so far
[14:01] <C_minus> changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet spash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet spash acpi_backlight=vendor" as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[14:01] <boxmein> how do I make the show desktop shortcut sort of skip the conky window
[14:01] <DexterF> C_minus, what was the last you did before it broke? system change?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | lyd1 welcome to the community
[14:01] <boxmein> so I can super-ctrl-d and still see conky
[14:01] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: I looked throuogh each and every menu in the BIOS setup utility, and cannot locate any  "fastboot"  or "secureboot" options
[14:01] <C_minus> ioria but I didn't know i had to sudo update-grub after that.
[14:02] <ioria> C_minus, now you can reverse the changes and run sudo update-grub....
[14:02] <C_minus> anyway, next time i tried to power on, it wouldn't boot - hangs on boot screen 5 dots
[14:02] <C_minus> ok well i managed to reverse the changes when  i booted into liveUSB. but from there it wasn't possible to sudo-update grub (hence DexterF's answer)
[14:03] <C_minus> so i can hit sudo update-grub here? Since then I already tried the boot-repair tool also...
[14:03] <ioria> C_minus, sure , you needed to bind mount and chroot.... now you can
[14:03] <ioria> C_minus, be sure to reverse the default .... then run sudo update-grub
[14:04] <curlyears> loria:  describe bind mout, please?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: if your system is uefi, you must find them options like uefi/legacy and stuff
[14:04] <lomD> my graphics card is intel sandy bridge
[14:04] <C_minus> ioria, ok it's already been back to the default for a while. but as i say, was unable to sudo update-grub. also, you might be able to discern something from this paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/14192121/
[14:04] <coldpizza72i> After I use dd to zero out a Hdd, is there a way to check/verify it was completely zero'd out ?
[14:04] <C_minus> ioria it's from when i ran boot-repair
[14:04] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: wel, apparent;y it isn't, than, becasue I saw no such options
[14:04] <DexterF> C_minus, ikonia is right that reinstalling grub shouldn't be necessary when editing that file and I wanted to make sure you got the *right* grub file, because in a live system editing /etc/default/grub obviously changes the *live* systems grub file, not the one of your installed system. I'm beginning to suspect you never really mounted the installed system somewhere into the live system in the first place. did you?
[14:05] <ioria> C_minus, if you run sudo update-grub .... what you got ?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: whats the default Os on that machine?
[14:05] <C_minus> DexterF I went to Files, searched for grub, found several but chose the one in my Ubuntu partition and drag-dropped it into terminal
[14:05] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: single booting LTS 14.04
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: what was the default Os that came by your machine
[14:06] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: nothing.  I byult the machine from mcomponents
[14:07] <DexterF> C_minus, dragged it into a terminal...? then what happened?
[14:07] <curlyears> s/mc/c/
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: then lookup your motherboard type if its uefi or not...its important
[14:07] <C_minus> DexterF well wrote sudo gedit, dragged it in, hit enter
[14:07] <curlyears> hang on
[14:08] <C_minus> :( even after sudo update-grub, still hanging on boot screen
[14:08] <curlyears> what command do I type to see what type of motherboard I have?  I know it's a Gigabyte brand, but I don't recall the model
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: man dmidecode
[14:09] <Voyage> can anyone help me with installing skype: http://pastie.org/10649575#1,18,145,246,262,280,293,305,323
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: did you try installing skype from official website?
[14:09] <DexterF> C_minus, there is somethign hosed... can you log in at the prompt, then do: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[14:10] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  yes; failed
[14:10] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: did you add partner repo for skype?
[14:10] <DexterF> C_minus, if that yields nothing good sign, if it does tell us what
[14:10] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  yes
[14:10] <bazhang> enable partner instll skype from there
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[14:10] <Voyage> bazhang,  did that
[14:10] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  14.04 lts
[14:11] <Voyage> kubuntu btw
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: added other ppa's of any kind before skype install?
[14:11] <Voyage> I guess
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: clean out your system from ppa's first
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Voyage
[14:11] <curlyears> Hybrid EFI technology with DualBIOS for 3TB HDD support  <--   grom the Gigabyte Technology page
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: check your pdf manual to disable fastboot and secureboot
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> !efi > curlyears and have a read here
[14:13] <C_minus> So i just tried logging in with the "text" option instead of "quiet spash". but i don't have login option anymore, it says "init plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning
[14:13] <C_minus> oh i just needed to hit return
[14:14] <curlyears> d/l-ing the manul pdf
[14:14] <C_minus> DexterF that command returned (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[14:15] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  http://pastie.org/10650007
[14:16] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  these are my sources. Whats should be the first step now?
[14:16] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  I also enabled i386 architecture. Do I need it?
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: not sure what you all did mate, but there has to be a reason for your skyp dependecie problem
[14:17] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  dependancy conflict
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: yes thats your sympton, but i dont know what you did before
[14:18] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  how can I trace/resolve?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: can you remember for wich programs you added ppa's?
[14:20] <Platypus2k> my laptop freezes very often when watching youtube, using Google maps, watching video and playing music... using Ubuntu 15.10 desktop version, any tips?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Platypus2k, more ram
[14:21] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  gave you my sources list. I just casually enabed partner repose. I installed vlc, virtualbox, firefox, chromium, muon, kubuntu-restricted-extras and adons, krita, filezilla
[14:21] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  do you want me to disable partner repos?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: all these packages installed via apt-get?
[14:22] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  yes; apt-get or muon
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: no, dont remove partner, as its needed for skype
[14:22] <Platypus2k> cfhowlett: it has 8 gigs
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: did you sudo apt-get update after adding partner repo?
[14:22] <Voyage> yes
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: and you still got that conflict?
[14:23] <Voyage> yes
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> weird
[14:23] <asda14> how to kill /etc/init.d/lightdm in tty7 and then how to open lightdm in tty1?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: what was that packagename again of the conflict?
[14:24] <Voyage> skype-bin , skype-bin:i396 and a whole lot of sub dependancies
[14:24] <MWM> No object for D-Bus interface .  First two or so pages of google list https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=140456 this as the solution...doesnt work for me
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: did you try a purge skype?
[14:25] <Voyage> yes
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: what does it say
[14:25] <Voyage> purge skype*
[14:26] <Voyage> purged but resintall has same issues
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: did you reinstall with sudo apt-get install skype, or skype-bin?
[14:27] <Voyage> skype
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: could you try with skype-bin?
[14:27] <Voyage> tried both
[14:27] <Voyage> same issue
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[14:28] <C_minus_> So Im running the LiveUSB. Want to copy and paste over some stuff from my hard drive to an external disk for backup. Then I will reinstall ubuntu.
[14:28] <C_minus_> But it says "the folder com cannot be handled because you don't have permissions to read it"
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: try purge with this: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype*
[14:28] <Voyage> yes
[14:28] <C_minus_> Just trying to drag-drop some files for backup here
[14:29] <Voyage> did that
[14:29] <C_minus_> do i need to mount drives or anything like that?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: now reinstall skype
[14:30] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  I did that all cycle many times. same issues
[14:31] <Voyage> 	
[14:31] <Voyage> Install libqtwebkit4:i386 by launchpad didn't solve the problem, because, apparently, it has other dependencies. When I tried to install, I got the error "Cannot install 'libqt4-opengl:i386'".
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: can this help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+question/214084
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Voyage, multiarch-support, perhaps?
[14:33] <Voyage> BluesKaj,  how to enable multi arch?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> just install multiarch-support
[14:35] <C_minus_> Can anybody tell me how to copy certain contents of my HDD to an external drive whilst running liveUSB? It tells me i don't have permissiosn to read the file
[14:35] <Voyage> BluesKaj,  its installed already
[14:35] <nicomachus> C_minus_: you need to mount your HDD
[14:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's become default now .
[14:35] <C_minus_> nicomachus it appears in the Files sidebar - what else do i need to do?
[14:37] <nicomachus> C_minus_: if you're using the GUI you probably need to open it as root
[14:37] <nicomachus> !gksu | C_minus_
[14:37] <C_minus_> nicomachus so I assumed it was already mounted because when i right-click i have the option to "unmount"
[14:37] <nicomachus> uh... nvm. that factoid is old. Use "gksu", not "gksudo"
[14:38] <Voyage> can anyone help me with installing skype: http://pastie.org/10649575#1,18,145,246,262,280,293,305,323
[14:39] <nicomachus> C_minus_: is it an encrypted HDD?
[14:39] <MWM> when I try to mount a drive I get " No object for D-Bus interface"
[14:39] <C_minus_> nicomachus, no it's not.
[14:39] <nicomachus> ok good. C_minus_ what's the output of sudo fdisk -l
[14:41] <C_minus_> nicomachus ill have to work out a way to paste you the results, i can't get wifi anymore through the liveUSB boot
[14:42] <C_minus_> nicomachus in any case i assume the external hard drive is /dev/sdc1 with Id=b and System=W95 FAT32
[14:43] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  good idea to purge all repose and start installing things from scratch again?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: i dont see no harm for that
[14:44] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  how do i do that? I just go to muon (package manager) and uncheck the multiverse, universe repose and only go with main?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Voyage, is there a static version of skype still availablr, iirc that was the easiest and most workable version for linux
[14:45] <Voyage> BluesKaj,  .deb also has issues with me
[14:46] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  I disabled some repos but I see the apps Iinstalled from them are still there (thus with their dependancies)
[14:46] <nicomachus> well buy her some flowers and maybe she'll like you more.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> uhoh Voyag, not good  ;/
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Voyage,^
[14:47] <C_minus_> ok what can I type to copy my home folder to an external hard drive?
[14:47] <ikonia> C_minus_: just use the gui
[14:47] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  I disabled some repos but I see the apps Iinstalled from them are still there (thus with their dependancies)
[14:47] <ikonia> make it easy on yourself
[14:47] <ikonia> Voyage: clearly not
[14:47] <ikonia> Voyage: or you won't have unmet dependencis
[14:47] <C_minus_> ikonia i can't get it to work :(
[14:48] <ikonia> C_minus_: define "can't get it to work"
[14:48] <Voyage> ikonia,  what do you mean
[14:48] <ikonia> Voyage: it can't install a dependency
[14:48] <Voyage> ikonia,  I wonder why I have unmet dependancies
[14:48] <ikonia> Voyage: what repo does the missing package come fro m?
[14:48] <C_minus_> i tried sudo mount /dev/MyExternalHardDrive /mnt
[14:48] <ikonia> C_minus_: it should auto mount when you plug in the disk
[14:49] <Voyage> ikonia,  line 273 and 316 elaborates http://pastie.org/10649575#1,18,145,246,262,280,293,305,323
[14:49] <ikonia> C_minus_: and then in the file manager gui you should see it on the left hand side
[14:49] <C_minus_> it tells me "the folder com cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it"
[14:49] <Platypus2k> Ubuntu found a proprietary driver for the CPU, enabled that now. Hopefully stops the freezes
[14:49] <ikonia> Voyage: what ?
[14:49] <ikonia> C_minus_: ok - what are the permissions on the folder
[14:50] <Voyage> ikonia,  line 273 and 316 tells about missing dependency
[14:50] <ikonia> Voyage: ok - so now you know the problem, fix it
[14:50] <C_minus_> ikonia i have millions of these files with potential permission issues. Is there no faster way?
[14:50] <Voyage> ikonia,  thats exactly why I am here.
[14:51] <nicomachus> C_minus_: did you open nautilus as root...?
[14:51] <Voyage> ikonia,  those dependencies have sub dependencies and I dont know which one clashes what all or most of my other software like kubuntu-desktop and others
[14:52] <C_minus_> nicomachus no i didn't...
[14:52] <C_minus_> i need to apt-get gksu?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  it should be there by default
[14:55] <C_minus> remember i'm on ubuntu liveUSB
[14:55] <ikonia> Voyage: just meet each dependecy one at a time
[14:55] <ikonia> C_minus_: what is the permissions on the files
[14:55] <C_minus> the program gksu is not currently installed. you can install it by typing sudo apt-get install gksu
[14:55] <ikonia> you don't need gksu
[14:56] <C_minus> Owner user1000 Access create and delete files Group 1000 create and delete files Others Access files
[14:56] <C_minus> It's a folder inside an Android development project - of which I have many
[14:56] <ikonia> C_minus_: you are doing this from a livecd ?
[14:56] <C_minus> yes
[14:56] <C_minus> well, live USB
[14:56] <ikonia> C_minus_: ok - so thats why it doesn't work, as there is no such user as user 1000 on the livecd
[14:57] <C_minus> what about using super user privilages?
[14:57] <ikonia> C_minus_: that will work
[14:57] <C_minus> ok 1. how? 2. wouldn't it just be simple to copy over my entire home folder to an external disk in terminal somehow?
[14:58] <Voyage> ikonia,  there is no meeting. there is clash
[14:58] <ikonia> C_minus_: you should be able to launch a gui root session with "gksudo nautlius"
[14:59] <linuxhp> guys if anybody know how to backup the installed packages in ubuntu 14.04
[14:59] <ikonia> Voyage: what ?
[14:59] <C_minus_> the program gksudo is not currently installed. you can install it by typing sudo-apt get install gksu
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> linuxhp  rsync is pretty fast
[14:59] <C_minus_> but then it said unable to locate package
[14:59] <ikonia> really ? gksudo is linked to gksu now ?
[14:59] <Voyage> ikonia,  I will give you logs in a sec
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> linuxhp  oh, installed packages, that's different
[15:00] <linuxhp> how to do that
[15:01] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: man rsync
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> linuxhp  here's one way ... mind, this is very basic and works only between two identical releases, some programs no longer exist in newer releases http://paste.ubuntu.com/14194276/
[15:02] <tosmarcel> b1ack1323: kinda harsh to tell a noob to RTFM in #ubuntu
[15:02] <Platypus2k> proprietary drivers didn't help, it froze again now
[15:02] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: tosmarcel: True. sorry.
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> linuxhp  also: it also only copies programs that are installed from the repos, so no external .deb or ppa
[15:03] <linuxhp> its ok
[15:03] <tosmarcel> b1ack1323: not saying you're wrong, but these people come from different environments
[15:04] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: Where do you want to copy your programs, to a remote or to a local drive?
[15:04] <b1ack1323> tosmarcel: I getcha, it's what I was told when I asked, so it was nostalgic for me in a sense.
[15:05] <linuxhp> loccal drive
[15:05] <ikonia> linuxhp: why are you doing this ?
[15:05] <ikonia> (whats the issue / problem you're trying to solve)
[15:06] <tosmarcel> Wouldn't linuxhp want a list of packages installed with apt-get?
[15:06] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: rsync -a ~ /media/<whatever your mounted drive name is>
[15:06] <ikonia> copying binaries to another place is not a good move
[15:06] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: wait that's home dir
[15:06] <linuxhp> if i change os toanother versions,so i want to backup my installed packages
[15:07] <Voyage> ikonia,  what do you say to this  now? http://pastie.org/10650986
[15:07] <ikonia> linuxhp: that won't work
[15:07] <ikonia> Voyage: exactly what I said before, fix the dependencies
[15:07] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89893/how-to-copy-my-software-to-another-computer
[15:07] <linuxhp> ok i try
[15:07] <ikonia> linuxhp: you cannot use the ubuntu packages on another OS
[15:08] <ikonia> if you change OS - you cannot use the packages
[15:08] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Merry Christmas!
[15:08] <tosmarcel> I think the best solution is to get a list of installed packages and then use that list to install them on another machine
[15:08] <b1ack1323> linuxhp: That will be easier than copying binaries to another os you could wreck your kernel
[15:08] <ikonia> you are making a problem for yourself trying to do this
[15:08] <ikonia> b1ack1323: please don't make things up
[15:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  exactly why I am here. "to know how"
[15:08] <linuxhp> ok frnds
[15:08] <ikonia> Voyage: install each of the depdencies manually - until you hit the core package causing the error
[15:09] <linuxhp> i just want to know these, not to do
[15:09] <ikonia> Voyage: then work out why it's erroring, and work out the best resolution for your system
[15:09] <ikonia> linuxhp: you don't do it is the answer
[15:09] <b1ack1323> ikonia: linuxhp:  Ikonia should clarify that you can use generic linux packages but not ones designated for that distro.
[15:09] <ikonia> b1ack1323: no you can't
[15:09] <ikonia> and it won't "wreck your kernel"
[15:09] <Voyage> ikonia,  I have tried to install each manually as you can see in the paste
[15:10] <sw0rdfish> Hi there, is ubuntu now suitable for older generation people who can ONLY handle/do GUI
[15:10] <ikonia> Voyage: right - and why are they broken ?
[15:10] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: no
[15:10] <sw0rdfish> so I shouldn't install ubuntu for my dad's friend who needs to format his laptop?
[15:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  thats exactly why I am here "to know why"
[15:10] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: yo can
[15:11] <b1ack1323> ikonia: So youre saying whan I install a tar.gz from a site that says generic linux, then run it. It won't work on any other distro?
[15:11] <ikonia> Voyage: what is the exact version of ubuntu you are using ?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Voyage, I've ad afew dependency issues solved  by installing the last dependency listed first and working back from there, no guarantees, but it's worth a try
[15:11] <ikonia> b1ack1323: very much depends
[15:11] <Voyage> ikonia,  14.04 lts kubuntu
[15:11] <Voyage> BluesKaj,  http://pastie.org/10650986
[15:11] <ikonia> Voyage: so as you can see it appears to depend on a lot of 32bit packages,
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Voyage, yes i swa that
[15:12] <BluesKaj> saw
[15:12] <Voyage> ikonia,  yes. skype does too
[15:12] <ikonia> Voyage: right, so pick one of those packages, eg: libqt4-opengl
[15:12] <sw0rdfish> hmmmmmmmmmm
[15:12] <Voyage> ikonia,  pick and do what?
[15:12] <ikonia> Voyage: when you try to install that it will fail, why will it fail, can it find the package, does it conflict,
[15:13] <sw0rdfish> and he won't ever need to open the terminal? ikonia
[15:13] <ikonia> Voyage: what repo is it trying to pull it from etc etc
[15:13] <Voyage> ikonia,  it just says "its not going to be installed"
[15:13] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: shouldn't need to
[15:13] <ikonia> Voyage: ok - so YOU need to walk it through, look where it's going to try to get it from
[15:13] <nicomachus> sw0rdfish: I wouldn't say never, but having to type one or two commands into a terminal isn't the end of the world.
[15:13] <earnThis> Ive got an ubuntu iso on a usb drive and Ive changed the boot order in my bios to be usb first but im still getting the "non-system disk or disk error" message. Seems like my work station isnt seeing the usb drive, any ideas?
[15:14] <sw0rdfish> nicomachus the guy doesn't speak english, but he does speak arabic, I'm not sure if there is an arab community/forums and stuff
[15:14] <nicomachus> earnThis: does it work in any other machiens?
[15:14] <ikonia> earnThis: either your machine doesn't support boot from bios, or you've not made the usb disk correctly
[15:14] <nicomachus> machines*
[15:14] <Voyage> ikonia,  if you see the last lines. it says libgl1-mesa-glx is wanted and then after that, it says its already the newest version
[15:14] <earnThis> ikonia: the usb drive?
[15:14] <sw0rdfish> nicomachus can the desktop GUI be setup in arabic, btw?
[15:14] <nicomachus> sw0rdfish: there's an arabic channel on IRC for ubuntu, I know that.
[15:14] <ikonia> Voyage: is the newest version the one you want ?
[15:14] <ikonia> Voyage: where is it trying to get from
[15:14] <sw0rdfish> nice
[15:14] <nicomachus> the only issue I've heard about is rendering some arabic fonts in PDFs.
[15:15] <nicomachus> otherwise, should be fine.
[15:16] <Voyage> ikonia,  http://pastie.org/10651002
[15:16] <earnThis> ikonia: it could be that ive made the usb incorrectly. I simply took a copy of the iso from a network share I have and copied it to the usb
[15:16] <sw0rdfish> hmmmm. That shouldn't be a problem because I think Microsoft's OneDrive and Google Drive or whatever can open pdf's I believe?
[15:16] <sw0rdfish> inside a browser
[15:17] <sw0rdfish> is there a bot that can tell me what the name of the ubuntu arabic channel is
[15:18] <sudo3> how can i rename columns in prestashop?
[15:18] <compdoc> r2d2?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !find presta
[15:18] <sw0rdfish> compdoc that would be neat
[15:19] <Voyage> ikonia,  any clues?
[15:19] <sudo3> guys?
[15:19] <sw0rdfish> !help
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> sudo3  prestashop is an online shopping site or, is what i find here... it's not for this channel
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> or so*
[15:21] <sudo3> prestashop is ecommerce platform
[15:21] <sudo3> i have lorem ipsom in colums.. need to dlete it :( itrying 3 hours already
[15:22] <neldogz> Anyone having trouble streaming popular services like go.cnn.com and other TV networks that require DRM? I have tried https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/flash-player-11-problems-playing.html but doesn't wor
[15:22] <ioria> sw0rdfish, System Settings -> Language Support
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> sudo3  https://www.prestashop.com/forums/forum/5-community-help-and-support/
[15:24] <Voyage> can anyone help me with installing skype: http://pastie.org/10651012
[15:25] <fubarapt> Hi! Was wondering if anyone can help me sort apt out?
[15:25] <nicomachus> fubarapt: what's the issue?
[15:26] <fubarapt> nicomachus when ever I attempt to install anything,  I keep getting "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[15:26] <fubarapt> "
[15:26] <fubarapt> or similar messages
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> fubarapt  utopic is dead
[15:27] <fubarapt> MonkeyDust what do you suggest I do?
[15:27] <ioria> !eol | fubarapt
[15:29] <sw0rdfish> thank you ioria
[15:29] <ioria> sw0rdfish,  you're welcome
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Voyage, why does it have to be skype, whynot googletalk or some other ?
[15:32] <fubarapt> thanks everyone. Another question: can you still obtain Gnome2 anywhere, or do I have to use MATE?]?
[15:32] <Voyage> BluesKaj,  :)
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> fubarapt  mate
[15:32] <fubarapt> MonkeyDust danke
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> fubarapt  kein Dank
[15:36] <mkeita> hello everyone. first timer here
[15:36] <daftykins> mkeita: hi. support only in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <enrico_> join #ubuntu-it
[15:38] <enrico_> sorry :)
[15:40] <ubuntu-mate> Hi
[15:40] <idaem> hello ?
[15:40] <ubuntu-mate> this is interesting
[15:40] <daftykins> idaem: ask a support question if you have one, don't join a channel and demand a response for nothing
[15:41] <idaem> what is this ?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> idaem  type /topic
[15:41] <idaem> ???
[15:42] <idaem> I am new here
[15:42] <daftykins> that is obvious
[15:42] <Morrwin> Literally no idea after I got back on amd open source drivers from proprietary why steam games now work
[15:42] <idaem> so i don't know how to use this chat room
[15:42] <daftykins> #1 it's a support room, so if you don't have questions you don't need to be here
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> idaem  people come here to help them solve problems with ubuntu
[15:43] <idaem> where do you all from?
[15:43] <terrasapien> or you can lurk like the hundreds of others and glean insight watching other people problems get hashed out
[15:43] <earnThis> HA! a/s/l
[15:43] <daftykins> idaem: it's not that kind of place.
[15:44] <idaem> Oh! I see thank you
[15:44] <solvarr> Ubuntu goes straight to emergency mode at startup?
[15:45] <solvarr> But everything seems to be working in upstart mode
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> solvarr  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[15:45] <solvarr> Like I said, the system goes straight to emergency mode at startup
[15:45] <C_minus_> Was backing up home folder before fresh install - running LiveUSB and sudo nautilus (gksu was not available). It has hung 17.7GB into the copy. Is there a simpler way of copying files over to the external drive, perhaps in terminal?
[15:46] <solvarr> x server didn't work
[15:46] <wowaworm> https://chaturbate.com/jeniferjesson/
[15:46] <solvarr> but everything works fine in upstart mode
[15:46] <daftykins> !ops | wowaworm
[15:46] <wowaworm> daftykins: ?
[15:47] <daftykins> that's an inappropriate link and you know it, grow up.
[15:47] <wowaworm> daftykins: Your behavior is unacceptable.
[15:47] <daftykins> that's my line!
[15:47] <daftykins> now if you could just leave that'd be great
[15:47] <solvarr> Does anyone know what could have possibly caused the problem?
[15:48] <daftykins> could be a bad disk state from an auto scheduled fsck
[15:48] <daftykins> check the logs
[15:48] <solvarr> how do I check it?
[15:49] <solvarr> actually even in startup mode it said couldn't mount /dev/sda* but I skipped it
[15:49] <solvarr> and later I'll have to ntfsfix that device
[15:50] <daftykins> well it certainly won't like a failed mount in /etc/fstab
[15:50] <daftykins> i have a feeling you're seeing more evidence regarding the potential problem than you have shared on here
[15:51] <solvarr> yes, only that I have no idea how to solve it lol
[15:51] <daftykins> well you didn't tell us about a failing mount
[15:51] <daftykins> we can't help you, if you can't help us to help you.
[15:52] <solvarr> I didn't realize that a failing mount would cause this...
[15:52] <solvarr> I have ubuntu and windows 10 on my computer
[15:53] <solvarr> everytime I choose windows 10 and restart, the failing mount would appear
[15:53] <daftykins> i'm not saying it's a direct cause, but it's obviously an unhappy system
[15:54] <solvarr> how do i edit /etc/fstab to make it work?
[15:54] <MWM> back again :)  This time even I think I should be able to figure this one out, but its more a question of "best practices" I think
[15:54] <solvarr> I set up something like an automount for all other ntfs partitions
[15:54] <daftykins> solvarr: you need to disable hybrid shutdown in win10, or at least understand that you must hold left shift when clicking shutdown to allow that NTFS volume to mount fine
[15:55] <physicz> join #science
[15:55] <solvarr> you mean holding left shift when I shut down Windows?
[15:55] <MWM> Im using lubuntu for NAS/random other stuff.  FInally gor the drives working and now its time to set partitions.  I wonder wether to mount a partition full of music in the "music folder", or use a symlink bacsically
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> solvarr  how did you install ubuntu... on its own partition, or inside windows?
[15:56] <solvarr> on its own partition
[15:56] <MWM> ugg.  please excuse the spelling errors.  The biggesst issue with symlink is that I have to manually acess the machine and mount the partition when I want to access via samba
[15:57] <solvarr> I will turn off the hybrid boot in windows and try again
[15:58] <daftykins> solenoids: you realise you used the exact words i did to say "you mean..." ?
[15:58] <maksud> Hello any one can help?
[15:58] <daftykins> solenoids: sorry wrong user
[15:58] <daftykins> maksud: not without a question
[15:59] <maksud> I have chromixium 64 bit but here i can't install internet modem. So how i can solve it. Right now I am using mint 17.3
[15:59] <nicomachus> !mint | maksud
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> maksud  both chromixium and mint are not supported here
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> maksud  you're in the wrong channel
[16:00] <maksud> ok
[16:03] <chr5> Hi guys...I need help to install a ubuntu 14.04 from iso directly to my empty hdd
[16:03] <chr5> can i do that?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> chr5  let's hear it... what happens when you try?
[16:04] <chr5> I dont know how i can do that... i used a live cd to access to my new computer with an empty hdd
[16:04] <chr5> with the live cd ubuntu 13.04, i downloaded the 14.04 iso
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> sounds good
[16:04] <chr5> now i want to install grub2, and run 14.04 iso
[16:04] <chr5> can i do that? does someone tell me how ?
[16:05] <chr5> i dont want to burn the iso, just to install directly in my new hdd
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> chr5  boot from the live cd/usb, choose 'try ubuntu', then install
[16:05] <chr5> My live cd is a 13.04 version
[16:06] <chr5> i want to install the 14.04 iso image
[16:06] <nicomachus> create a 14.04 version.
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> chr5  what's holding you?
[16:07] <chr5> MonkeyDust... sorry, i dont understand your question...
[16:07] <nicomachus> chr5: you need to create a live CD or Live USB for the 14.04 version, and then you can use it to install.
[16:07] <chr5> I mean, can i install directly an iso ubuntu image in my empty hdd without a cd image or live cd?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> chr5  what's holding you from installing 14.04... you have the iso
[16:08] <BlackFate> chr5, the iso needs to be booted in order to use the installer and install it to a hdd
[16:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello, not 100% sure if this is the room to ask; but I've got a movie server that I access from outside my home (simple htaccess). I would like to use a database front end for it. Ideas on a simple one?
[16:08] <chr5> i have not cd and not pendrive
[16:08] <chr5> i cant burn anything
[16:08] <nicomachus> NineTeen67Comet: something like Kodi?
[16:08] <nicomachus> !kodi | NineTeen67Comet
[16:09] <chr5> I mean, i dont want to burn any cd, just install direcly with my iso in my hdd
[16:09] <chr5> is it possible?
[16:09] <NineTeen67Comet> nicomachus: I use Kodi for my home clients, it works great (MiniDLNA on my media server for that) .. I would like to set up a web page on my webn server instead of just listing the files in a directory as it does now
[16:09] <nicomachus> chr5: no.
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> chr5  no, you need something to install it *from*
[16:09] <DosTuMai> You beat me, Nicomachus. xD
[16:10] <chr5> but in the old days, when there was no CD, no people installing linux?
[16:10] <BlackFate> chr5 floppy disks
[16:10] <nicomachus> chr5: they used Floppy disks.
[16:10] <chr5> i mean....if you have not floppy and cd unit....
[16:11] <chr5> you can install linux....for sure
[16:11] <nicomachus> then you have not install.
[16:11] <DosTuMai> chr5: You need a bootable media to install from.
[16:11] <ejuan> PXE or usb drive
[16:11] <BlackFate> !netboot | chr5
[16:12] <BlackFate> chr5 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[16:12] <chr5> with a live linux....can i install the rest of system component in my hdd?
[16:12] <chr5> for example...can i install grub2 in a empty hdd from a live linux?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> chr5  why would you want that? what is your end goal?
[16:13] <chr5> If i lost my grub2 i can recover using a live linux, right?
[16:13] <BlackFate> chr5, also check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:14] <BlackFate> chr5, i think you need the ISOBoot way (last link)
[16:15] <chr5> My goal is to understand the posibilities to install things in to my hdd with a live linux
[16:15] <chr5> for example...can i install grub2 in a empty hdd with my live linux?
[16:16] <chr5> and to learn to do this things
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> chr5  grub ~2 comes with the ubuntu installation
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> grub2*
[16:17] <BlackFate> chr5, depends on your host OS. if you already have a ubuntu installation, then you can use the grub2 option or the netboot. If you use windows, then maybe ask someone who knows how to do that from windows
[16:17] <BlackFate> chr5, both options don't require burning the iso to an external source
[16:18] <chr5> I have any OS in my pc, i only have a empty hdd....i have a live cd with 13.04 ubuntu
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> !13.04 | chr5, you may want to update that to something a little more current.
[16:20] <chr5> It was a old dvd at home
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> chr5  yes, you can install 13.04, for experimental purposes, but not upgrade it or install programs... find out what you can do
[16:20] <BlackFate> chr5, install 13.04, boot 13.04, download 14.04 iso. Use ISOboot, boot 14.04 and install it over 13.04
[16:20] <Voyage> http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[16:21] <chr5> yes, BlackFate, i can understand now
[16:21] <chr5> thanks you very much (all)
[16:21] <DirtyCajun> if you install xfce4 on an ubuntu server... does it use resources when you havent started a session yet with startx?
[16:21] <chr5> can i execisobot from a live cd?
[16:22] <chr5> can i run isoboot form a live cd?
[16:22] <FDUSION> Merry X-Mas  folks
[16:22] <DirtyCajun> chr5. or wait till april and just install 16.04 XD
[16:23] <hw4ng3r> Happy Holidays FDUSION
[16:24] <chr5> One Question more, if i have not cd or floppy, any external way, is netbooting the only way to install linux?
[16:25] <Voyage> http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[16:25] <FDUSION> chr5: why don't you just install it on a hypervisor, e.g vmware
[16:26] <FDUSION> Then you don't need any of that
[16:26] <chr5> what is hypervisor? i dont know what it is
[16:27] <hw4ng3r> chr5: virtual environment
[16:27] <FDUSION> It's a software which you can install on a Windows Machine to simulate a computer. Then just load in the ISO. Go to Virtualbox.com and download it!
[16:28] <chr5> can i execute a virtual enviroment with ubuntu 13.04 in live mode?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> chr5  sounds overkill to me
[16:28] <EriC^^> chr5: why do you want that?
[16:29] <chr5> I dont know, i just want to understand things
[16:29] <chr5> christmas are good time to understand new things
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> chr5  find a empty dvd or usb stick, put ubuntu 14.04 on it and install from there... done
[16:29] <EriC^^> chr5: if you want to learn, install a vm or dual boot
[16:30] <chr5> MonkeyDust, I have not empty dvd, no usb stick, what can i do?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> chr5  get one, somehow, somewhere
[16:30] <chr5> i think in alternative options, net boot looks like the best one
[16:30] <motaka2> ioria: Hi, merry christmas
[16:31] <chr5> Eric, what vm can i install with a ubuntu live cd?
[16:31] <chr5> another question: can i install new things when i use a live linux?
[16:32] <EriC^^> you install virtualbox or vmware on windows, then load the iso in that vm and install in the vm
[16:32] <chr5> can i install new software when i use a virtualized linux (when i use a live cd) ?
[16:32] <EriC^^> virtualized linux and live cd are 2 different things
[16:32] <chr5> a lot of question are comming to my estupid brain, sorry, jeje
[16:33] <chr5> when i put my live cd, i run ubuntu, but i dont install...just to use...how do you call that?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> chr5  a live session
[16:33] <EriC^^> live cd is like a trial of linux, the whole os is loaded with a set of programs, and it's a one time use, just from the cd, when you reboot everything disappears back to the original state
[16:34] <chr5> thanks, ok, then the question is....can i install new software in a live session?
[16:34] <EriC^^> yeah but they disappear when you reboot
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  that was fast
[16:34] <EriC^^> unless you use a persistent live usb
[16:34] <chr5> ok, can i install grub2 in my empty hdd in a live session?
[16:35] <EriC^^> yeah i guess it could be done somehow but what would be the point?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> chr5  why are you so focused on grub2... first learn the basics
[16:35] <chr5> ok, right....the first question again: can i run a ubuntu linux in a live session?
[16:36] <chr5> a ubuntu iso, i mena
[16:36] <chr5> i mean
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> chr5  yes, boot from usb/dvd, try linux, done
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> try ubutu, rather
[16:36] <chr5> ok, i have a live session with ubuntu 13.04, right?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> chr5  a live dvd/usb, when you boot from it, it's called a live session
[16:37] <FDUSION> Is anyone using Torguard here ? I'm on the verge of looking for a new VPN service
[16:37] <chr5> i have a live session right now....then i used firefox (in live session) i have downloaded the NEW ISO...ubuntu 14.04
[16:37] <chr5> right?
[16:37] <chr5> i have now ubuntu 14.04 in my hdd, right?
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> chr5  great, now save that .iso on a dvd or usb
[16:38] <chr5> yes, i can understand you... i can burn new iso and all is perfect
[16:38] <chr5> but my questions, come here....
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> chr5  burn the iso, then boot from it and install 14.04
[16:38] <chr5> what happends if i dONT HAVE ANY CD or pendrive....
[16:39] <chr5> or better, what happends if i dont want to burn anything,
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> chr5  you can't burn to something that isnt there
[16:39] <chr5> are there any alternative to run iso from hdd?
[16:39] <DosTuMai> chr5: Then you can't install Ubuntu.
[16:39] <chr5> i have seen you can install grub, and run a iso image
[16:39] <chr5> is it right?
[16:40] <chr5> grub can run iso images
[16:40] <chr5> if i have a image, and i install grub, i can run my new iso, is a right thinking?
[16:41] <chr5> maybe is a stupid thinking
[16:42] <DosTuMai> chr5: You need to run the .iso from boot to be able to install it. Without installation media - CD, USB drive, floppy - you wont be able to load it ion the boot order.
[16:43] <chr5> but grub can load iso images, right?
[16:44] <chr5> if i get a grub in my empty hdd, i can load iso image without bootting iso image, right?
[16:44] <DosTuMai> chr5: It can, but you can't install the .iso on your system.
[16:44] <chr5> ok, i understand now
[16:44] <chr5> i can run, but not installing it
[16:44] <Rave1> http://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/
[16:46] <DosTuMai> Rave1: Thank you, you learn something new every day. =]
[16:46] <Rave1> yes we do
[16:47] <DosTuMai> Turns out you can! That'll be useful for my test tower.
[16:47] <chr5> so, a duubt, can i install grub in my empty hdd with a live session? how?
[16:48] <DosTuMai> chr5: Read the link. =]
[16:48] <chr5> I have read....but there is a problem: This trick requires you have a Linux system installed on your hard drive.
[16:49] <chr5> i have not linux installed, just empty hdd
[16:49] <chr5> i use it in a live session
[16:50] <chr5> i suppose, by comments, that in a live session i CAN NOT install grub, right?
[16:50] <chr5> i would like to install grub, and run my iso
[16:51] <chr5> just a callenge
[16:52] <FDUSION> windows
[16:53] <Rave1> chr5  you said in the beginning you had a disc with 1304 you could install that /use it to create the partitions you need and  install from an image on one partition
[16:54] <chr5> yes, i maked partitions...
[16:54] <chr5> i have downloaded the new iso
[16:55] <chr5> now i was thinking to install grub and run the new iso in my hdd without linux installed
[16:55] <chr5> but i am not sure if that is possible
[16:55] <BlackFate> chr5, Rave1 why even bother create the partitions. Just default install 13.04, change the grub to boot the 14.04 and then after you boot 14.04, fresh install it
[16:55] <ioria> motaka2, merry chistmas to you ^_^
[16:56] <BlackFate> chr5, i think we are recycling the same info again and again. Go through the provided links
[16:56] <Rave1> BlackFate,   yes I agree  that whole work too
[16:57] <Rave1> would work<<
[16:57] <lagbox> anyone having an issue as of just recently with firefox sitting at high cpu with nothing loaded   15.10
[16:57] <chr5> Sorry, i am not trying to be boring !
[16:57] <Rave1> lot of time just for the sake of a cheap disc or flash drive
[16:58] <chr5> Rave1, the important things here are the alternative thinking and options
[16:58] <ioria> lagbox, sometimes the culprit is flashplayer
[16:58] <Rave1> chr5   you need to go do some reading and not ask the same thing other and other here
[16:58] <Rave1> over and over
[16:58] <DosTuMai> Get a pack DVD-R for £1, pretty sure most other countries have the same kind of thing.
[16:59] <lagbox> so flashplayer is running with no pages loaded ?
[16:59] <BlackFate> Rave1, if you just want to play around... you can do it with KVM. boot the iso with KVM, After you install ubuntu to a KVM virtual machine, convert the KVM image to a raw disk image and dd that to your disk
[16:59] <BlackFate> chr5, *
[16:59] <lagbox> no plugin container process is running
[16:59] <motaka2> ioria: Thanks foe all you did this month for me.
[16:59] <Rave1> BlackFate,   thanks but I have been using linux for 10 years  I have played around lots
[17:00] <ioria> motaka2, no problem...
[17:00] <motaka2> ioria: has TJ- changed his nickname?
[17:00] <chr5> thanks BlackFate
[17:00] <ioria> motaka2, don't think so... maybe is busy...
[17:00] <lagbox> ioria, thanks for the info, i double check that
[17:00] <chr5> and sorry for the inconvenience !
[17:00] <BlackFate> Rave1, sorry for the nick reference, that was for chr5
[17:00] <ioria> lagbox, run ps -A  identify FF pid then   ls /proc/<pid>
[17:00] <Rave1> OK  lol
[17:01] <motaka2> ioria: Ok thanks I hope I can find hime and tell him merry christmas too
[17:01] <ioria> motaka2, sure ...
[17:02] <lagbox> ioria, what would i be looking for
[17:03] <ioria> lagbox, status
[17:03] <lagbox> okay
[17:04] <ioria> lagbox, also   pmap -x   pid
[17:04] <lagbox> what about those commands ?
[17:05] <C_minus_> I reinstalled ubuntu today, but i think i messed up the partitions a bit. Here's gparted http://ibin.co/2R4b51467fra and fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/14197508/
[17:05] <lagbox> what are you telling me to look for
[17:05] <ikonia> C_minus_: whats the problem
[17:05] <ikonia> C_minus_: that data gives no context
[17:05] <C_minus_> sorry... much to type
[17:07] <C_minus_> i have strangely sized partitions, win7 and ubuntu are smaller than they used to be, but there's this other mysterious partition
[17:07] <C_minus_> i think i might have created extra ones
[17:07] <DarkAceZ> what's the difference between 'deb' and 'deb-src' when adding ppa's?
[17:07] <C_minus_> windows had to run its chkdsk utility at start up to verify the bootloader (i think?) but it started up ok
[17:08] <ciccillo> ciao
[17:08] <ciccillo> !list
[17:09] <C_minus_> mount is greyed out, so i can't look inside this huge partition sda6
[17:11] <TJ-> DarkAceZ: 'deb' is the binary package files; 'deb-src' is for the source-code (if you want to fetch it using "apt-get source <package>"
[17:11] <DarkAceZ> ah, thanks TJ-
[17:12] <C_minus_> i need to know its "mount point" - how can i find this out?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  mount
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  type 'mount' in a terminal
[17:15] <C_minus_> ok so yeah as i suspect, i accidentally made an extra partition for ubuntu on my hard drive. windows was shrunk down, but that's cool, i can always resize in gparted, right?
[17:16] <C_minus_> with the liveUSB can i run gparted and merge the 2 ubuntu partitions into 1?
[17:17] <john____> hello I have a problem with my Logitech Camera... the Video seems to work with skype, but I am not able to get the microphone working. I am using pulseaudio, Xubuntu. Trying to get it working with skype. Nobody can hear me :(
[17:17] <ikonia> C_minus_: no
[17:17] <TJ-> C_minus_: that rather depends. if the 'accidental' empty partition is AFTER the Ubuntu file-system, then yes. Else, not without moving data around
[17:17] <ikonia> C_minus_: that will lose data
[17:17] <ikonia> C_minus_: whats the actual PROBLEM
[17:18] <ikonia> you're describing symptoms
[17:19] <C_minus_> ikonia i guess... i have 2 ubuntu partitions on the same laptop. i only want 1. i want to keep win7, which touch wood is working ok. don't really care about losing data at this point because it's backed up.
[17:19] <ikonia> C_minus_: ok - delete the 2 ubuntu partitions (or all of them) re-create them how you want and re-install
[17:20] <C_minus_> this can be done in gparted, whilst running the LiveUSB/
[17:20] <ikonia> C_minus_: do it using hte installer
[17:20] <ikonia> or use the livecd / usb as you are doing
[17:20] <BlackFate> john____, post the output of the following command to pastebin: "pacmd list-sources"
[17:21] <C_minus_> OK. TJ I believe the unwanted partition is after the wanted one... please see http://ibin.co/2R4b51467fra
[17:21] <ikonia> C_minus_: just delete it
[17:21] <C_minus_> unwanted being sda6
[17:21] <ikonia> and re-create it
[17:21] <ikonia> why is this a hard concept
[17:21] <ikonia> you don't want it - delete it
[17:22] <C_minus_> i just wanna check before i do anything else today - i made a real mess earlier on today :(
[17:22] <ikonia> check what ?
[17:22] <ikonia> what is it you want us to verify
[17:22] <john____> BlackFate: here I posted it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14197777/
[17:22] <C_minus_> that i can do this without some unforseen thing wrecking my computer. i acknowledge that the people here know much more than i do.
[17:23] <ikonia> C_minus_: you can delete the ubuntu partitions without damaging your windows partition, yes
[17:23] <ikonia> confirmed
[17:23] <C_minus_> i appreciate it.
[17:26] <C_minus_> while i'm doing this, can i also resize sda2 (win7 partition), which involves moving all the stuff in sda7 to the right?
[17:26] <john____> BlackFate: The Camera is working but not the microphone. I tested the camera on a different PC and everything was working. any idea how to get it running?
[17:26] <ikonia> C_minus_: I would not do that yet
[17:27] <ikonia> C_minus_: I would get your ubuntu partitions sorted, boot into windows, chkdisk it - defrag it, then deal with that
[17:27] <BlackFate> john____, did you select the input device from the sound settings?
[17:29] <C_minus_> so step1: delete sda6 making ubuntu large. step2: install ubuntu on (large) sda6. step3: chkdsk/defrag win7. step4: change ratio of win7:ubuntu partition size with gparted (repeat step 3)???
[17:29] <ikonia> C_minus_: why are you changing the ubuntu partition size ?
[17:29] <ikonia> C_minus_: the whole point of re-creating the ubuntu partitions is to size them correctly
[17:30] <john____> BlackFate: I tried that. It only gives me the Options wait I will sen you a screen
[17:30] <Uf_> why canonical close upstart and change stupid systemd from redhat
[17:30] <ikonia> Uf_: every distro has changed
[17:30] <ikonia> and it's not "from redhat"
[17:30] <Uf_> Redhat may be close source code systemd and can by money
[17:31] <ikonia> Uf_: not for this channel
[17:31] <Uf_> As microsoft
[17:31] <nicomachus> Uf_: not a topic for this channel.
[17:31] <Uf_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:31] <C_minus_> so check out the image: http://ibin.co/2R4b51467fra I want sda2 (win7) to be about 200GB, sda6 (new resized ubuntu) to be about 250GB.
[17:32] <john____> BlackFate: here is a Screen http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=24950216
[17:33] <BlackFate> john____, that's pavucontrol and also that's not ubuntu
[17:33] <BlackFate> john____, what are you using?
[17:34] <john____> BlackFate: I am Using Xubuntu.
[17:34] <john____> BlackFate: My computer is not good enough to run Ubuntu
[17:35] <C_minus_> So instead: step1: delete sda6, making sda7 large. step2: change ratio of win7:ubuntu partitons. step3: chkdsk win7. step4: install ubuntu on (now large) sda6. Good plan?
[17:36] <john____> I can choose between Front Microphone, Rear Microphone, and Line In all in (unplugged) in the Tab "Build in Analog Stereo"
[17:37] <C_minus_> Or: step1: remove ubuntu entirely, delete both ubuntu partitions, and swap space. step2: chkdsk win7. step3: run ubuntu installer and choose whatever relative size i want.
[17:37] <ikonia> C_minus_: why is this so hard
[17:37] <ikonia> C_minus_: delete the ubuntu partitions - install ubuntu on the correct sized partitions
[17:37] <C_minus_> ok thanks
[17:41] <john____> BlackFate: It's alright I was able to fix it!
[17:41] <john____> My microphone is working now
[17:42] <Naveenandhu> which application is better for video converter
[17:43] <zykotick9> Naveenandhu: which colour is better for walls
[17:43] <Naveenandhu> brown sandle
[17:43] <BlackFate> Naveenandhu, ffmpeg is the most known and widely used. (it's a command line tool though)
[17:48] <styler2go> Can someone help me how i can use https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb on ubuntu?
[17:48] <VFDPrim1> what is the ubuntu off toppic room
[17:48] <VFDPrim1> forgot the name lol
[17:48] <nicomachus> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:49] <VFDPrim1> makes sence lol thanks
[17:49] <nicomachus> !alis VFDPrim1
[17:49] <nicomachus> !alis | VFDPrim1
[17:51] <Unused> Givet ban still morons, more, more, more. You thus further proves that the proprietary Microsoft no freedom than you after the fact, rather than promises.
[17:54] <weply> what does mode/##something [-v weply]  do
[17:54] <weply> what does the -v command do?
[17:55] <nicomachus> weply: that's off-topic here, but -v (or +v) controls whether someone has Voice in an irc channel.
[17:55] <ikonia> try #freenode
[17:55] <ikonia> they can help you
[17:55] <weply> does that me im muted?
[17:55] <weply> mean
[17:56] <ikonia> ask in #freenode
[17:56] <nicomachus> weply: ....obviously not, because I just replied to you.
[17:56] <ikonia> they will help you understand how to use irc
[17:56] <weply> no but the -v in the other channel
[17:56] <weply> if I get -v in other channel am i
[17:56] <nicomachus> ask in #freenode
[17:56] <weply> ok
[17:56] <weply> so
[17:56] <weply> soz
[18:04] <rahuldev> hi
[18:07] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[18:30] <greg> hello
[18:30] <Guest8125> I install nvidia 340 and see mistake user1000@service Unknown host.Why
[18:30] <Guest8125> ?
[18:32] <mdgeorge4153> hello.  I've been using gnome-shell on ubuntu.  Recently all of my extensions have stopped working and I've been unable to activate them or find any similar problems on teh google.   Can anyone help?
[18:34] <nicomachus> mdgeorge4153: extensions...? as in browser extensions?
[18:34] <mdgeorge4153> no, gnome-shell extensiosn
[18:34] <mdgeorge4153> extensions
[18:36] <Finetundra_> Hey folks, can someone walk me through setting up an Asus PCE-N53 wireless card?
[18:39] <nicomachus> Finetundra_: perhaps this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217996
[18:49] <chr5> thanks gays
[18:50] <chr5> Merry Ubuntu open software revolution chirstmas !
[18:50] <chr5> dont masturbate too much ;)
[18:58] <pancakebreakfast> with scp it's scp local:/foo remote:/bar. Correct?
[18:59] <ikonia> pancakebreakfast: that will work
[18:59] <ikonia> pancakebreakfast: or just scp file remote:/bar
[18:59] <pancakebreakfast> ty
[19:00] <asus-eee> Boas alguem me pode dar uma ajuda?
[19:00] <asus-eee> sou novo no linux , e quando eu uso o comando para instalar um programa qualquer "sudo apt-get install ..." nunca consegue encontrar o pacote que pretendo
[19:01] <DJones> !pt |  asus-eee
[19:05] <asus-eee> obrigado ubottu!!
[19:12] <john___> Where is " ~/ " located? in my home folder??
[19:12] <EriC^^> ~/ is your home dir
[19:12] <EriC^^> it's like /home/<user>/
[19:12] <john___> ok thx
[19:12] <EriC^^> np
[19:14] <volga629_> Hello Everyone, how to remove old kernel ?
[19:14] <volga629_> on 14.04
[19:15] <ikonia> volga629_: just remove the package
[19:15] <ikonia> but auto-clean should also remove them
[19:15] <volga629_> I tried apt-get purge kernel list, but complain about some dependency
[19:16] <ikonia> volga629_: thats not the package name
[19:16] <ikonia> auto clean should remove obsolete packags or you can manually remove the package
[19:16] <volga629_> http://fpaste.org/304728/50984585/
[19:17] <volga629_> autoremove
[19:17] <ikonia> volga629_: clean up the extras package first
[19:17] <ikonia> thats what's blocking it
[19:17] <volga629_> you mean this
[19:17] <volga629_> linux-image-extra-3.19.0-42-generic
[19:18] <ikonia> inux-image-extra-3.19.0-42-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.19.0-42-generic but it is not going to be installed
[19:18] <ikonia> it looks lke you have a dependecy problem before you tried to clean the old package
[19:20] <volga629_> is this should help dpkg --purge --force-all
[19:21] <michael1> hi
[19:21] <ikonia> volga629_: why don't you follow the advice it's giving you on screen ?
[19:22] <volga629_> I don't see an messages from you
[19:23] <volga629_> purge of extra packge with apt-get doesn't work
[19:23] <James410> can you explain to me what a ping timeout is?
[19:25] <ikonia> volga629_: messages on the error screen
[19:25] <ikonia> not from me
[19:25] <newbie2ubuntu> I've got a question about running ubuntu in vbox:
[19:25] <volga629_> you mean remove this linux-image-3.19.0-42-generic
[19:25] <newbie2ubuntu> I have upgraded vbox to the latest version and now ubuntu is not booting.
[19:25] <Shai12391> Hello, I need your help - I've downloaded the latest Ubuntu version and install it on new patition along with my windows 10 and now when I turn the computer I get: error no such partition rescue mode? what to do?
[19:29] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[19:29] <Guest93870> Hello, I just got a new router and now my ubuntu gnome 15.10 says the network cable is unplugged. Works find on my windows partition on the same computer. And ideas?
[19:31] <UbuntuSupport> JeckH
[19:37] <Shai12391> Hello, I need your help - I've downloaded the latest Ubuntu version and install it on new patition along with my windows 10 and now when I turn the computer I get: error no such partition rescue mode? what to do?
[19:44] <superCarStereo> ping?
[19:44] <superCarStereo> nice
[19:44] <superCarStereo> can someone help me out with a socket issue? on ubuntu my server works fine, sockets establish connection and everything works as expected, on mips socket gets connected and disconnected immediately, I've changed keep alive from 120 to 7200 but it didn't help
[19:49] <curlyears> OK, well, the only thing I could find in the MB manual was an option to enable/disable EFI.   No otgher options
[19:50] <curlyears> so I enabled it, and tried to install again, and again the installed claims to have installed successfully, and afgain the boot to the HDD fails with an invalid filesystem error  )-:
[19:51] <curlyears> I noticed that gparted was install AND THEN REMOVED AT THE END OF THE INSTALL SCRIPT,  wHY IS THAT?
[19:52] <OerHeks> !uefi
[19:52] <OerHeks> ^^ to fix the secure boot issue
[19:52] <OerHeks> and gparted is removed after install, but you can easily reinstall
[19:53] <curlyears> oerheks:  I know  reinstall it, I already have.  I was wondering why the installer deletes it?
[19:54] <OerHeks> i have no clue, really.
[19:54] <curlyears> and I jkbiw what EUFI is. I am having trouble installing to a raw 3TB drive, and none of the ideas I have seen here or on the web for the last three days is helping
[19:54] <OerHeks> disks is enough to handle formatting usb devices and such
[19:55] <OerHeks> oh, you cannot use gparted... but this story is a replica of yesterday
[19:55] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:55] <curlyears> \though I do appreciate all the help you filk have offered
[19:55] <OerHeks> you know the answers already
[19:56] <curlyears> OerHeks:  yes, it is, AND THE DAY BEFORE THATA, AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT, AND THE DSAY BEFORE THAT, AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT  )-:
[19:56] <curlyears> doggoned caps lock key
[19:57] <curlyears> OerHeks:  nnone of the answers so far have solved my issue
[20:03] <DonaldTrumpUSA> hello
[20:08] <curlyears> doggone it all to heck
[20:09] <DonaldTrumpUSA> What's that all about?
[20:10] <curlyears> DonaldTrumpUSA: has an offensive nick )-:
[20:10] <curlyears> that's better
[20:10] <nullbyte> Alright, then I'll change to nullbyte
[20:10] <Finetundra_> Hey folks, can someone walk me through installing ndiswrapper from a tarball?
[20:11] <curlyears> well, nullbyte, I can't egt ubuntu to install correctly to my 3TB HDD.  this is my fifth day in a row being in here akmost all day, trying dozens of proposed fixes, none of which seem to work )-:
[20:11] <nullbyte> Well i'll see what i can do to help
[20:11] <curlyears> thaanks
[20:12] <nullbyte> To start, have you burned the iso image to a dvd or flash?
[20:12] <curlyears> my back hurts from sitting in my chair,. in front of the computer for 6-9 hours straight   0-;
[20:13] <nullbyte> Oh my!
[20:13] <nullbyte> What exactly is the problem other than your back hurting?
[20:14] <OerHeks> from 15:13 and on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/12/23/%23ubuntu.html , how do i make a gpt table , 100 mb boot for efi is then easy to do.
[20:14] <curlyears> nullbyte:  I have an install DVD I made back in 2014.  14.04.2.  It SAYS it has successfuklky installed the system, but the system will only boot to the Live DVD
[20:15] <nullbyte> OK, have you removed the install dvd and rebooted?
[20:15] <curlyears> thsnkd oerHeks, but I think I need/want to stick to LTS
[20:15] <nullbyte> What do you mean by that?
[20:16] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[20:16] <OerHeks> it does not matter 14.04 LTS or the latest
[20:16] <curlyears> this has happened AT LEAST 15 TIMES IN THE PAST 5 DAYS.  alMOST EVERY TIME i GET An error I haven't seen before when trying to boot
[20:17] <nullbyte> OK, what happens when you try to boot without the dvd in? can you send me the error message?
[20:17] <OerHeks> but then .. you allways have a new problem/answer before you could even take a look at the solution
[20:17] <curlyears> will 15.10 successfuly auto-upgrade to 16.04 when the time comes?
[20:17] <OerHeks> i leave you to nullbyte
[20:18] <curlyears> OerHeks:  I *HAVE* tried the solutions offered...they aren't working.  !
[20:18] <nullbyte> Curlyears: can you please tell me the error message you see?
[20:18] <curlyears> nullbyte:   what are you asking me the meaning of?
[20:19] <nullbyte> I'm asking you to boot without the cd in and tell me exactly what happens and what you see
[20:19] <Voyage> OerHeks,  sorry?
[20:19] <curlyears> nullbyte: most recently, after enabling EFI in  my BIOS, and reinstalling, I see an error of "invalid filesystem"
[20:20] <curlyears> but NO errors reported during install    ????
[20:20] <nullbyte> hmm, what is the make and model of your pc? i'm asking so i can know what kind of bios you have
[20:21] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: hello again
[20:21] <nullbyte> Curlyears: i'm changing my nickname
[20:22] <potato_farmer> ducks eh?
[20:22] <curlyears> my MB is a Gigabyte Corp. 78LMT-USB3
[20:22] <Duck_farmer> Yes, I rase layer ducks
[20:22] <Duck_farmer> Anyway, curlyears, I am nullbyte, now called "duck_farmer"
[20:22] <Duck_farmer> ok
[20:23] <Duck_farmer> I wonder if you'd be able to reset your bios to default settings
[20:23] <Duck_farmer> that might help
[20:24] <curlyears> I built the system.  Ithas been running nicely since July, when I built it and installed from tyhe very same DVD (whhich has been verified, yes).  Only difference between then and now is I am trying to install to a 3TB HDD rather than a 500GB drive, and I now have 24 GB of RAM, rather than 8.  (and yesam, I have rubn memtest86, no errorsa founmd)
[20:24] <john-external> can i get some help here with 15.10
[20:24] <Duck_farmer> Oh, i forgot to ask this:
[20:24] <curlyears> Duck_farmer: I was having the same problems before I enabled EFI, whicgh I ionly did this morning.
[20:24] <Duck_farmer> The 32 bit edition of ubuntu can support no more than 4GB RAM.
[20:25] <Duck_farmer> Maybe you got the 32 bit and have more than 4GB RAM??
[20:25] <curlyears> Duck_farmer: I am installing the 64 bit version
[20:25] <Duck_farmer> OK, good.
[20:25] <curlyears> it says so righ tin the name of the iso
[20:25] <TJ-> curlyears: it's important we know the *exact* wording of the error message, so we know what produces it. Is the message you see "Invalid file system mapping on ..." (variable ending)
[20:25] <Duck_farmer> TJ, you got cut off
[20:26] <Duck_farmer> Potato_farmer, are you still there>
[20:26] <john-external> is there anyone who knows how to get the .mp3 files to play in rhythmbox
[20:26] <Duck_farmer> double click them!!!
[20:26] <potato_farmer> Yes
[20:27] <Duck_farmer> Do you raise potatoes? ):
[20:27] <Duck_farmer> sorry, (:
[20:27] <potato_farmer> I don't grow potatoes
[20:27] <john-external> lol tried and it seems it doesn't even open in rhythmbox
[20:27] <Duck_farmer> Oh, just curious
[20:27] <Duck_farmer> What distro of linux do you have, John external?
[20:27] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[20:27] <TJ-> john-external: I seem to recall you need to install the MP3 codecs
[20:28] <OerHeks> john-external, install the restricted extra metapackage
[20:28] <john-external> ubantu 15.10
[20:28] <Duck_farmer> OK
[20:28] <Duck_farmer> Have you tried reinstalling?
[20:28] <OerHeks> for codecs, fonts, webplugins and such
[20:28] <john-external> yeah i got the codecs and even tried reinstalling and it doesn't want to work
[20:28] <Duck_farmer> Curlyears, id idn't forget about you
[20:29] <Duck_farmer> Hmm, does other music players work?
[20:29] <john-external> yeah but i like rythmbox better lol
[20:29] <TJ-> !info gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 | john-external
[20:29] <TJ-> !info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 | john-external
[20:30] <Duck_farmer> ok, i only asked because i wanted to know that for diagnostic purposes
[20:30] <TJ-> john-external: confirm you have both those packages installed
[20:30] <john-external> ubottu an JT-: did that but still cant get it to play
[20:30] <viruaposta> Voyage, can you paste output of this one : "getconf LONG_BIT"
[20:30] <Duck_farmer> Curlyears, you still there and alive and kicking?
[20:30] <curlyears> TJ-.this all Started when I clicked on "Install Now" in the popup that the push from ubuntu uses to notify you there's an upgrade available.   After ldid, when booting from my 500GB drvie, it fauiled every time.  So I booted from Live CD, and got the CD menu, and loooked at the "Advance options", in which the upgrade is labeled with  long name whic
[20:30] <curlyears> h includes 16.57 in it.  The precvious upgrade has a simialr liong name with 16.56, and etc.
[20:30] <Duck_farmer> Ok, John external, do other filetypes play in rythmbox?
[20:31] <john-external> duck_famer: don't know if they do or not i cant get it to even work
[20:31] <Voyage> viruaposta, 64
[20:31] <TJ-> curlyears: I know you've had every problem its possible to get. But please answer my question about that message; it is very important in understanding where the message originates, and therefore figuring the range of issues that could produce that situation
[20:31] <Duck_farmer> Curlyears: maybe you want to try to make another bootable ubuntu disk
[20:31] <john-external> i cant import even .wav to the library
[20:32] <viruaposta> Voyage, do execute this before trying to install "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[20:32] <Duck_farmer> John external, how were you going about reinstalling rythambox?
[20:32] <Duck_farmer> Were using terminal, software center, or download package?
[20:32] <john-external> thru the  Software senter
[20:32] <TJ-> john-external: try starting rhythmbox from a shell terminal; it might show error messages that give you a clue
[20:32] <curlyears> TJ-:   I found and enabled EFI in my BIOS settings this morning, trieedd reinstalling (from 14.04.2), had a reported "successful" install, but it still won't boot from HDD.   Now it isa just claiming "invalid filesystem" and dropping me into grub rescue
[20:32] <Duck_farmer> TJ, that's exactly what i was going to say!
[20:33] <TJ-> curlyears: is the message literally just "Invalid filesystem" (no space between 'file' and 'system' ?
[20:33] <Duck_farmer> Curlyears, maybe you want to make another boot disk for ubuntu.
[20:33] <john-external> how do i do that... kind of new to this form of os
[20:33] <curlyears> Duck_farmer: only have one DVD drive, can't burn a disk while booted in Live CD, I tried "burning" it to a USB thumb, that won't boot either.
[20:33] <Duck_farmer> curlyears, do you have a nother working computer with internet?
[20:34] <TJ-> john-external: start a GUI 'terminal' which'll give you a command-line shell
[20:34] <OerHeks> ia32 libs is the old way, ubuntu is multiarch for some time now. just install <package>:i368
[20:34] <UserUS> culryears: Did you do an OEM install or regular install?
[20:34] <john-external> TJ: then what
[20:34] <Voyage> viruaposta,  did you my private message?
[20:34] <viruaposta> Voyage, for explanation, above lib will help you to install a 32bit program to be installed on 64bit system
[20:34] <TJ-> john-external: close down any existing Rhythmbox and type "rhythmbox" to start it from the terminal
[20:35] <Voyage> viruaposta,  did you my private message?
[20:35] <OerHeks> viruaposta, wrong, ia32 libs is the old way, ubuntu is multiarch for some time now. just install <package>:i368
[20:35] <viruaposta> Voyage, I dont see any private message
[20:35] <Duck_farmer> TJ, i think it will help if you dealwith JOhn external and i deal with curlyears.
[20:35] <Duck_farmer> Unless youre opposed.
[20:35] <curlyears> TJ-:   It'll take me a little while to go see, as I h ave to sahut down, reset the BIOS to boot from HDD first, then re ove the DVD, reboot, and write the exact message out on  paper. (no way to preserve a 'cut-n-paste' through a reboot
[20:35] <Duck_farmer> curlyears: Do you have another working computer with internet connection?
[20:36] <john-external> TJ: the terminal says "(rhythmbox:18558): libsoup-CRITICAL **: soup_server_quit: assertion 'priv->listeners != NULL' failed
[20:36] <john-external> (rhythmbox:18558): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: object SoupServer 0x2d744e0 finalized while still in-construction
[20:36] <john-external> (rhythmbox:18558): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: Custom constructor for class SoupServer returned NULL (which is invalid). Please use GInitable instead.
[20:36] <john-external> (rhythmbox:18558): Gtk-WARNING **: Duplicate child name in GtkStack: Add to Playlist
[20:36] <Goose_farmer> answer duck_farmer's question, curlyears
[20:36] <viruaposta> Voyage, anyways thats not that much important.. you can have that lib installed and can install the program you looking for
[20:36] <TJ-> curlyears: OK, because the GRUB source-code doesn't contain the strings "invalid filesystem", "invalid file-system" or "invalid file system"
[20:36] <Voyage> viruaposta,  which lib installed?
[20:36] <duck_farmer> curlyears, you there?
[20:37] <UserUS> john-external: install glnitable
[20:37] <OerHeks> Voyage, don't install that ia32-lib. > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[20:37] <chicken_farmer> answer his question
[20:37] <TJ-> curlyears: And there *is* such a string in most UEFI firmware shells, so that error could be produced by the motherboard's own code
[20:37] <curlyears> Duck_farmer:   no, that's why I am forced to boot to 114.04.2 from the Live DVD I have
[20:37] <TJ-> chicken_farmer: please stop nick-bouncing!
[20:37] <OerHeks> viruaposta, stop giving wrong advise please
[20:37] <JHCShGVgFV> http://nomanslandradio.com/
[20:37] <Duck_farmer> OK, THen i have a good idea, curlyears
[20:38] <Voyage> OerHeks,  what to do to install skype
[20:38] <Duck_farmer> Boot from the ubuntu disk and go onto internet with that
[20:38] <UserUS> curlyears: try installing refind then. it will change the bootloader to load an interactive gui to select what bootable kernel you wanat to choose
[20:39] <OerHeks> Voyage, yesterday we tried all sorts, you should have partner repo enabled, install skype and run updates, but that does not work .. i am clueless. but ia32 libs is wrong.
[20:39] <john-external> so any ideas
[20:39] <Voyage> OerHeks,  hm I created a question with more details
[20:40] <Voyage> OerHeks,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[20:40] <idea_farmer> Curlyears, if you can access internet on boot disk, try to download new version of ubuntu iso image
[20:40] <Voyage> OerHeks,  I think, all started after I upgraded kubuntu (though it was not a dist upgrade
[20:40] <idea_farmer> voyage, if you change your nick maybe we'll listen to you
[20:41] <OerHeks> idea_farmer, you are anoying.
[20:41] <idea_farmer> sorry
[20:41] <idea_farmer> i'll change nick then
[20:41] <curlyears> UserUS;  i can also get that menu by holding F11 while the DVD boots ubuntu.  None of the choices available in ghere work.  Whatever the 16.57 upgrade did, it certainly trashed the drive badly.  I can still mount it under Live DVD and see all my personal files, fortunely
[20:41] <Voyage> idemuso,  nick? why
[20:42] <curlyears> fortunatly
[20:43] <duck_farmer> john-external, maybe we should get back to you
[20:43] <UserUS> curlyears: refind will show any other bootable filesystems. it shows more options then grub for booting. it gets installed on the esp to actually replace the boot loader
[20:44] <curlyears> idea_farmer, I have done that.  My only optiono here is to burn aninstall USB, which I did, which reported no errors, yetit refuses to boot
[20:44] <duck_farmer> oh, ok.
[20:45] <viruaposta> OerHeks, if you think so, please help that guy
[20:45] <duck_farmer> what guy?
[20:45] <curlyears> this mess is huge.
[20:46] <duck_farmer> john-external, are you still there?
[20:46] <viruaposta> duck_farmer, that wasnt for you.. that was for OerHeks
[20:46] <duck_farmer> sorry, i got mixed up
[20:46] <curlyears> I guess I'll try to refind thing.   Thanks, UserUS
[20:47] <duck_farmer> john external, you there?
[20:47] <UserUS> Cheers
[20:47] <curlyears> affterall, nothing else has worked.  How do I revert from the 16.57 update?
[20:47] <john-external> sorry
[20:47] <curlyears> )assuming I can boot, I'll need to do that)
[20:48] <duck_farmer> are you still having trouble?
[20:48] <john-external> yes i am here
[20:48] <john-external> yeahi trying a reinstall
[20:48] <duck_farmer> what method are you using to reinstall?
[20:49] <john-external> software center
[20:49] <curlyears> sorry, my cat was in distress, and I had to go assist him.  Back from AFK
[20:49] <duck_farmer> :)
[20:49] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[20:49] <john-external> do u know the command for it
[20:50] <curlyears> I am sure the 3TB drive is the problem, but none of the suggestions, either here or on many web pages I have been linked to has solved the issue
[20:50] <duck_farmer> Curlyears, have you done complete format on 3tb drive?
[20:51] <duck_farmer> john external, maybe you need to update your software center
[20:51] <john-external> well that worked after about 6 reinstalls
[20:52] <duck_farmer> ok
[20:52] <duck_farmer> what version ubuntu U have?
[20:52] <curlyears> duck_farmer: who sare you sking about version?
[20:53] <john-external> well thanks for all the help
[20:53] <duck_farmer> curlyears, sorry, was talking to john external
[20:53] <curlyears> duck_farmer: ok
[20:54] <john-external> oh it is the 15.10 i guess the current download of this has a small bug in it... downloaded from website
[20:54] <john-external> the willy warefolf
[20:54] <duck_farmer> download of what, ubuntu or rythmbox?
[20:54] <duck_farmer> eh?
[20:54] <john-external> ubuntu is 15.10 willy warewolf
[20:55] <duck_farmer> oh
[20:55] <john-external> but the problem is solved though... maybe just a bad connection to the internet made a short giltch in the program while downloading it
[20:56] <duck_farmer> John-external: great, i'm glad for you!
[20:56] <duck_farmer> curlyears, did you try to completely reformat your HDD?
[20:59] <duck_farmer> Curlyears, you there
[20:59] <magic_ninja-lap> so I start gdm and I get a black screen
[20:59] <magic_ninja-lap> what can I do to get some verbosity to see what is happening
[21:00] <BlackFate> magic_ninja-lap, does it work fine with lightdm?
[21:00] <magic_ninja-lap> no
[21:00] <magic_ninja-lap> black screen withany dm
[21:00] <duck_farmer> curlyears, what happened 2 U?
[21:01] <BlackFate> magic_ninja-lap, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:02] <curlyears> duck_farmer: that, and asked the installer to erase the drive, as well
[21:03] <duck_farmer> curlyears, i wonder if you r only other option is to flash bios!
[21:03] <aotea> I think I have an issue with Nvidia drivers, my screen sometimes turn black at random and returns to a login (just as if I rebooted) only my resolution is lowered and can't get increased unless I run a reboot. Any idea which log files I need to read or what I can do to figure out the source of my problem (got the urge to blame nvidia but you never know)
[21:03] <curlyears> duck_farmer: oh, Great Guhu!   I sincerel;y hope not
[21:04] <duck_farmer> i'm afraid so.  or did you try to reset bios yet?
[21:04] <duck_farmer> I mean not reset bios, reset bois settings to default
[21:04] <curlyears> what do you mean by "reset?"   DO you  mean to manufacturer's default setting?
[21:05] <duck_farmer> yes, i do
[21:05] <curlyears> yrsh, well, I can do that
[21:05] <duck_farmer> it's worth a try
[21:05] <curlyears> off to try that
[21:05] <curlyears> do IJ want EFI enabled or disabled?
[21:05] <duck_farmer> try both
[21:06] <duck_farmer> it might not evem matter
[21:06] <curlyears> according the web page, if I am only single booting, it "doesn't matter."   But which would be the best choice, I wonder?
[21:06] <duck_farmer> are you single booting or dual booting?
[21:06] <curlyears> yeah
[21:06] <curlyears> aingle booting
[21:07] <curlyears> no Winblows.  If I do dual boot, it'll be with differing versions of ubuntu
[21:07] <ikonia> curlyears: it's called "windows"
[21:07] <duck_farmer> ok, i'd try resetting bios and if that no work you may have to flash bios completely
[21:07] <mrsam_> how can i off my tochpad when i use keyboard?
[21:07] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:07] <ikonia> Voyage: you keep repeating the same thing
[21:07] <TJ-> curlyears: is the 3TB drive connected directly to a motherboard SATA port?
[21:07] <curlyears> ikonia:  nnot by people who are totally honest   *evil grin*
[21:08] <ikonia> Voyage: you've been told the problem and what to do to work it through
[21:08] <curlyears> TJ-   of course
[21:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  I was advised to keep doing that with good intervals
[21:08] <duck_farmer> mrsam_ what os are you using
[21:08] <ikonia> curlyears: it's normally said by losers trying to sound l33t
[21:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  I cant.
[21:08] <ikonia> Voyage: first question a.) are the packages you need in the official ubuntu repos
[21:08] <TJ-> curlyears: So that means the Advanced Format mappings will likely be in operation (physical/logical sector-size differences)
[21:08] <ikonia> (dependencies)
[21:08] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : 15.10 ubuntu
[21:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  yes
[21:08] <magic_ninja-lap> BlackFate, can I make it go through just a page at a time
[21:08] <ikonia> Voyage: ok - so what are they conflictig with
[21:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  but theres a conflict
[21:08] <loler54> I'm just going to say it.. I'm fresh with Ubuntu/linux and I wonder if anyone could help me set up a SMF webserver, or phpBB.. can't seem to get this working.. Tried so many times that i'm giving up lol
[21:09] <duck_farmer> mrsam_, what kind of computer? are u using?
[21:09] <Voyage> ikonia,  the paste shows all
[21:09] <ikonia> Voyage: what are they conflicting with
[21:09] <ikonia> Voyage: I'm asking you
[21:09] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : LAPTOP
[21:09] <ikonia> Voyage: pick a package, what is it conflicting with
[21:09] <curlyears> ikonia:  as you say.   I have no interesting in being perceived as l33t, I assure you.  I consider thhose people flawed in some way
[21:09] <magic_ninja-lap> loler54, sudo apt-get install lamp
[21:09] <duck_farmer> I mean what make and model?
[21:09] <loler54> ik.. Then
[21:09] <magic_ninja-lap> decide which phpbb you want to set up
[21:10] <duck_farmer> mrsam_, what make & model?
[21:10] <magic_ninja-lap> loler54, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-phpbb-on-ubuntu-14-04
[21:10] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : lenovo 5170
[21:10] <duck_farmer> ok.
[21:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  ...... I have already done this. If you see the paste, I have been walking and trying to install one by one in the hierarchy of dependancies. the last ones conflict with a whole lot of other things like kde, kubuntu desktop, virtual box ; the full os
[21:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  you cant understand unles you see the paste
[21:11] <ikonia> Voyage: I can
[21:11] <akik> Voyage: i tested the skype i386 packages recipe yesterday in 15.10 x86_64 and it still works
[21:11] <loler54> magic_ninja-lap then I make a database (SMF / phpBB), make a localhost user, grant it all privileges, flush privileges, wget "sitenamedownload", unpack and give permissions to 770 and 660 I think..
[21:11] <Voyage> ikonia,  and by the way, this ends my skill set. So I cant resolve
[21:11] <ikonia> Voyage: hence why I'm asking you to confirm the packages are being pulled from the ubuntu repos
[21:11] <duck_farmer> mrsam_, do you have a button on your function keys that will disable touchpad?
[21:11] <Voyage> ikonia,  that I have in the paste
[21:11] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : yeah
[21:12] <duck_farmer> does pressing that temporarily disabble it?
[21:12] <ikonia> Voyage: pick a package, look at what it needs, make sure that package is in the ubuntu repo, make sure the dependencies it's pulling in come from the ubuntu repos
[21:12] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : No
[21:12] <ikonia> Voyage: if those things are true, you should not have a problem
[21:12] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : i wanna turn it off in setting
[21:12] <ikonia> if those things are not true - you have installed repos/packages from repos from non-official ubuntu repos and they are conflicting
[21:12] <Voyage> ikonia, if you cannot see the problem in the paste; there is no point spending time
[21:13] <ikonia> Voyage: I can see many problems in the paste
[21:13] <TJ-> curlyears: In the PC's Setup facility, have you enabled "EFI CD/DVD Boot Option" on the "Advanced BIOS Features" screen?
[21:13] <ikonia> Voyage: thats why I'm telling you to focus on each individual package and verify their location/dependency location
[21:13] <Bruce_> I burned a copy of ubunto onto a dvd, made bootable and when inserted ti into an Acer Aspire 5610z laptop that originally came with windows vista and later converted over to xp, I got a black screen with two lines of text while trying to boot from said dvd. The two lines of text are: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU. How and where do I find
[21:13] <avis> i paid an additional 10% to the former 15% to all debts accumulated to those who work for ubuntu.  it was my christmas gift to them, and further, i did't realize how little it was in the first place.  it does universally cover all debts even if college, tech, or credit, mortgage, and house.  if your an ubuntu op would you please notify IdleOne he is being unkind by quieting me.
[21:13] <TJ-> curlyears: the manual says, for that option, "Set this item to EFI if you want to install the operating system to a hard drive larger than 2.2 TB"
[21:13] <ikonia> Bruce_: use the 32bit install
[21:13] <loler54> magic_ninja-lap I am using Digital Ocean as server provider.. Tried setting up phpBB with that guide several times.. the var/www/html does not exist, and when I create it, it does not work right either.. I got the domain.com/install to come up when I unzipped the file in the var/www folder instead of in the HTML folder, only problem after that is that on the install page, it did not recognize any databases
[21:13] <curlyears> ikonia:  things don't alwasy work out that way.  All of the suggestiion I have tried from ehre are legitimate, yet not one  "with no problem"
[21:14] <duck_farmer> mrsam_, I don't think U can do that in settings, but if you update driver software for trackpad, you might get better results
[21:14] <ikonia> curlyears: what ?
[21:14] <Voyage> ikonia,  see the last lines
[21:14] <Voyage> http://pastie.org/10651012
[21:14] <ikonia> Voyage: no
[21:14] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : how can id update all of my drivers?
[21:14] <ikonia> Voyage: I'm not doing the checking for you
[21:15] <magic_ninja-lap> loler54, look at your root and make sure it is pointing to /var/www/
[21:15] <Voyage> ikonia,  thanks for your time. we are not on the same page somehow
[21:15] <Voyage> any help for this skype insalling issue? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:15] <ikonia> Voyage: we are
[21:15] <ikonia> Voyage: stop repeating the same thing
[21:15] <Voyage> ikonia,  no me
[21:15] <ikonia> Voyage: look at what is being said
[21:15] <duck_farmer> mrsam_, open settings and search for software & updates
[21:15] <ikonia> Voyage: the paste lists the dependencies having the problem
[21:16] <curlyears> things that seem obvious don't always work for every system "with nno problem"  Different systems have different quirks.  Even apparenly identical systems
[21:16] <Voyage> ikonia,  the main list is on the question link paste block
[21:16] <ikonia> Voyage: why are they are problem for you - but no-one else, check what repos they are coming from / what packages they are conflicting with and why
[21:16] <ikonia> Voyage: you have to do the leg work
[21:16] <TJ-> curlyears: also, check that on the "Integrated Peripherals" screen you've set "OnChip SATA Type" for the SATA port with the drive on it to "AHCI"
[21:16] <loler54> magic_ninja-lap what do you mean? And another problem, when I edit the "visudo" file to add a new user, I get the error that the user does not exist
[21:16] <Voyage> ikonia, thanks
[21:16] <duck_farmer> curlyears: how are things going?
[21:17] <loler54> magic_ninja-lap I do have experience with servers, but not on linux lol
[21:17] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : what can i do after it?
[21:17] <curlyears> Tj-  I'll gop try that right now
[21:17] <viruaposta> guys! is there any other way to stop hping3 than dropping / stopping icmp over ubuntu box?
[21:18] <duck_farmer> mrsam_: click the "additonal drivers" tab
[21:20] <OpenSorce> So the last two kernel updates on my wife's lappy have left it unbootable, after doing the liveusb rescue bit twice I'm beginning to want to tell her not to let it update. Where should I start looking to figure out what the issue is?
[21:20] <ikonia> OpenSorce: how does it not boot
[21:20] <OpenSorce> ikonia, grub-resuce> prompt or grub> prompt
[21:20] <loler54> What forum software do you guys recommend? Need something professional where you have control of everything from a CP and that got a lot of themes available for me.. Is SMF good?
[21:21] <duck_farmer> acrocity?
[21:21] <TJ-> OpenSorce: does it fail to boot even if intercepting the GRUB boot-manager menu and choosing "Advanced..." sub-menu and choosing a much older kernel, or Recovery mode?
[21:21] <ikonia> OpenSorce: interesting,
[21:21] <Voyage> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:21] <Loshki> OpenSorce: which os version?
[21:22] <ikonia> Voyage: so where did wine come from ?
[21:22] <OpenSorce> TJ-, IF it let's me get there. After fixing it with the liveusb it gives me the grub menu back and if I don't purge those two kernels it just powercycles on them instead of booting.
[21:22] <TJ-> OpenSorce: "rescue>" means GRUB couldn't find it's root file-system (where /boot/grub/ is), "grub>" means it found that file-system but couldn't find the /boot/grub/grub.cfg menu file there
[21:22] <OpenSorce> Loshki, 14.04
[21:22] <TJ-> OpenSorce: is there a separate file-system partition for /boot/ and if so has it run out of space?
[21:22] <Voyage> ikonia,  500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[21:22] <closedSource> no
[21:23] <Voyage> ikonia,  says the policy
[21:23] <TJ-> closedSource: please, will you stop nick-changing constantly. It's hard enough following the channel as it is
[21:23] <ikonia> Voyage: is this 15.10 ?
[21:23] <Voyage> no
[21:23] <taciitr> ikonia: Jesus made wine from water Voyage
[21:23] <Voyage> 14.04 lts
[21:23] <ikonia> taciitr: don't be silly please
[21:23] <ikonia> Voyage: sorry, you did say trusty
[21:23] <OpenSorce> TJ-, I have begun to suspect that. No not a separate partition for boot.
[21:24] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : see my screenshot>>>http://imgur.com/Eiqyuby
[21:24] <Voyage> ikonia,  sorry? trusty?
[21:24] <TJ-> OpenSorce: OK, so out-of-space could only be a problem if the Ubuntu root file-system is running low
[21:24] <ikonia> Voyage: the version
[21:24] <Voyage> ikonia,  so 14.04 lts == trusty
[21:24] <OpenSorce> But the kernels are there when it updates. I check before I purge them. File sizes are right, etc
[21:25] <TJ-> OpenSorce: the symptoms you describe sound very much like the update-initramfs failing to write a complete /boot/initrd.img-$(VERSION) due to "no space on device"
[21:25] <mrsam_> duCK_FARMER : do u see it/
[21:25] <mrsam_> ?
[21:25] <ikonia> Voyage: correct
[21:25] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yeah I thought so too. 320gb drive though. One partition for all of Ubuntu and plenty of room left
[21:26] <Voyage> ikonia,  so wheres the problem?
[21:26] <TJ-> OpenSorce: for a successful boot there need to be a pair of files, /boot/vmlinuz-$(VERSION) and /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION - and you should check the initrd.img looks a very similar size to all the other initrd.img  files with "ls -l /boot/initrd.img*"
[21:26] <ikonia> Voyage: so remove wine
[21:26] <Loshki> OpenSorce: 14.04 is pretty stable. Wanna pastebin the output from "sudo fdisk -l" <-- that's a lower case "L"
[21:26] <ikonia> Voyage: have you ever used PPA's or 3rd party repos
[21:26] <OpenSorce> Loshki, sure one sec
[21:26] <TJ-> OpenSorce: however, if it fails at the "rescue>" prompt that is a fault for GRUB not finding its /boot/grub/
[21:26] <Voyage> ikonia,  I was installing wine, not removing it. and its not installed
[21:27] <ikonia> Voyage: what are the dependencies wine is failing on
[21:27] <Voyage> ikonia,  no, I just enabled partner repos from muon-> settings
[21:27] <Voyage> ikonia,  its just showing the messaged that I pasted to you
[21:27] <Voyage> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:27] <OpenSorce> TJ-, right. Two different errors all together.
[21:28] <ikonia> Voyage: right, wine meta package is linked to wine1.6 package, so see what wine1.6 is failing on
[21:28] <viruaposta> OpenSorce, man dont allow anyone to update your wifes laptop to boot like anything.. do one thing, do a live cd session from ubuntu and install grub-rescue and click on recommended tab, that will fix grub issues for you
[21:28] <Voyage> ikonia,  should I install wine1.6?
[21:28] <TJ-> OpenSorce: Yes. "rescue>" means 'grub-install' has written incorrect data to the core.img about where to find /boot/grub/ - as in which device,partition pair
[21:28] <ikonia> Voyage: it seems something is seriously wrong with your package versions, especially around the 32bit packages
[21:28] <ikonia> Voyage: have you ever used PPA's/3rd party repos
[21:29] <Voyage> ikonia,   wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4)
[21:29] <OpenSorce> Loshki, http://pastebin.com/zTK536gA
[21:29] <Voyage> ikonia,  no, I just enabled partner repos from muon-> settings
[21:29] <mrsam_> [21:29] <ikonia> Voyage: the packages you are listing are all stable from the ubuntu repos,
[21:29] <TJ-> Voyage: what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" report?
[21:30] <Voyage> TJ-,  i386
[21:30] <TJ-> Voyage: Good; 'apt' should be fetching the correct package lists for the 32-bit architecture too
[21:31] <mrsam_> HOw can i download skype?
[21:31] <Voyage> then why I am getting this:
[21:31] <ikonia> !skype | mrsam_
[21:31] <Voyage> ,   wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4)
[21:31] <Loshki> OpenSorce: I don't see anything obviously wrong. Try what viruaposta said.
[21:31] <Voyage> and The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:31] <Ben64> Voyage: sudo apt-get install wine1.6-i386
[21:32] <OpenSorce> Loshki, yeah I was thinking that too. Wish it would just... work :-P
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[21:32] <ikonia> mrsam_: the wiki is down at the moment due to spam
[21:32] <TJ-> Voyage: can you do "pastebinit <( grep '^deb ' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} )"
[21:32] <mrsam_> i cant install Skype whith apt-get install skype...what can i do?
[21:32] <Voyage> Ben64,  The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.6-i386:i386 : Depends: libglu1-mesa:i386 but it is not going to be installed or                              libglu1:i386                     Depends: libgphoto2-6:i386 (>= 2.5.2) but it is not going to be installed  .... 2 more
[21:33] <Voyage> TJ-,  sure. one sec
[21:33] <ikonia> mrsam_: you can do that
[21:33] <ikonia> mrsam_: you just need the partner repo enabled in your source
[21:33] <TJ-> Voyage: aha, and do you have a hardware enablement stack installed? "dpkg -l '*lts*' "
[21:33] <mrsam_> how can i enable it?
[21:33] <viruaposta> OpenSorce, here are the steps [sorry took me a bit long to copy from my blogs] : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[21:33] <viruaposta> sudo apt-get update
[21:33] <viruaposta> sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[21:33] <viruaposta> Now launch boot-repair either from GUI or from terminal and click on “Recommended repair” button. This will take care of all common boot-issues and their fixes, reboot the system once prompted and done! Now you will be able to boot and login to your ubuntu-box without any issues.
[21:34] <ikonia> mrsam_: open your software souce gui (depending on what distro you are using) and enable partner repo
[21:34] <OpenSorce> viruaposta, cool but when it's unbootable, how do I get there?
[21:34] <Voyage> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14201573/
[21:34] <Ben64> Voyage: it isn't supported in this channel, but i'd recommend using wine's ppa for wine anyway
[21:34] <OpenSorce> mrsam_, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+install+skype
[21:34] <TJ-> Voyage: thanks. You might try this for more info: "sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes wine1.6"
[21:35] <viruaposta> OpenSorce, you need to boot from live CD/USB man.. dont tell me you are not that familiar with that
[21:35] <OpenSorce> viruaposta, oh yeah very familiar. :-)
[21:35] <Voyage> Ben64,  TJ-  I have a long issue of skype too. and I think those are related http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:35] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok
[21:35] <OpenSorce> viruaposta, are you saying install boot-rpeair on the liveusb?
[21:35] <mrsam_> opensurce :: how can u create this link?
[21:35] <viruaposta> correct OpenSorce!!
[21:36] <TJ-> Voyage: it'd help for us to see "pastebinit <( dpkg -l '*lts*' )" too
[21:36] <OpenSorce> viruaposta, right! Doh! User space on the liveusb. Sorry I'm old not used to such things :-P
[21:37] <OpenSorce> viruaposta, thanks for the help. The rest of you guys too.
[21:37] <viruaposta> OpenSorce, boot from live CD [to the extent newbie I can say click on try ubuntu and once you are up in the system and logged in] do follow what I said earlier
[21:37] <mrsam_> opensurce :: plz can u say to me that how can u creat ur link?
[21:37] <ikonia> mrsam_: it's not a google lesson channel
[21:37] <ikonia> mrsam_: you have your skype answer, please leave it there
[21:38] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok, first of all, how to give pastebinit the -o debug:: command?
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[21:38] <Voyage> TJ-,  how to put the output of this in pastebinit "sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes wine1.6
[21:38] <OpenSorce> mrsam_, check your pms
[21:39] <OpenSorce> s/pms/PMs
[21:39] <TJ-> Voyage: wrap the entire command in the child-process redirection as in:  "pastebinit <( sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes wine1.6 )"
[21:39] <TJ-> Voyage: "pastebinit <( some; commands )" redirects all of "some; commands" output into pastebinit directly
[21:41] <L00PER> I'm back to drop a link: https://medium.com/@jazer/how-i-became-a-morning-person-and-why-i-decided-to-make-the-change-eb1b012a16e5#.bt05nq3m6
[21:41] <Voyage> TJ-,  strange, its not giving full output as shown to me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14201651/    VS.  http://pastebin.com/FNLeMLrj
[21:42] <OpenSorce> ikonia, makes you wish you could delete previous comments like facebook sometimes huh? :-P
[21:42] <Voyage> TJ-,  pastebinit <( dpkg -l '*lts*' )
[21:42] <Voyage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14201677/
[21:42] <ikonia> OpenSorce: ?
[21:43] <OpenSorce> spam posts like that I mean. makes you wish you could delete the post afterward
[21:43] <ikonia> not a big problem
[21:43] <OpenSorce> So 16.04, still with Unity or are they changing that?
[21:44] <ikonia> still unity
[21:44] <ikonia> unity is the ubuntu choice
[21:44] <ikonia> you can follow it in #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <ikonia> (irc channel)
[21:44] <OpenSorce> ikonia, kk thanks
[21:48] <Voyage> TJ-,  there ?
[21:48] <Voyage> TJ-,  also http://pastebin.com/LPtssGUv for skype
[21:49] <ddrj> hey guys, i saw my ram using for my VPS drop suddenly between sunday and monday (image here: http://i.imgur.com/ljtEqY7.png ) I was wondering if someone could tell me how to check the server logs for that time and see what happened?
[21:50] <ikonia> ddrj: you'd be more likley to see the application logs showing usage
[21:50] <ikonia> you could of course look in the syslog
[21:50] <Voyage> ikonia,  there are the conflicts http://pastebin.com/LPtssGUv just FYI
[21:50] <duck_farmer> I'm back guys
[21:50] <ddrj> ikonia: ahhh so would i use this command? cat /var/log/syslog
[21:51] <ikonia> ddrj: that can work
[21:51] <ikonia> Voyage: it's all about the 32bit packages again
[21:51] <ddrj> thanks i'm looking at it and have no idea hahah, but it's ok
[21:52] <Voyage> ikonia,  how to remove 32bit arch?
[21:52] <ikonia> Voyage: you need the 32bit arch
[21:52] <Voyage> ikonia,  for?
[21:52] <ikonia> I can't help but feel there is a critical thing you're not telling us, something that has happened
[21:52] <ikonia> Voyage: you need it for skype and wine
[21:52] <Voyage> hm
[21:52] <TJ-> Voyage: looking now
[21:52] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok
[21:52] <Voyage> ikonia,  ok
[21:54] <ddrj> is it ok to uninstall sendmail if you're not using your server to send any emails?
[21:54] <ikonia> an MTA is part of the lsb base
[21:54] <ikonia> sendmail is not installed by default on ubuntu
[21:54] <ikonia> postfix is
[21:54] <Voyage> ikonia,  I had this issue before too on other systems. One thing I know is that it does not happens on  a fresh system with no apt upgrade. This is also a coment I read at some forums. TJ-
[21:55] <ikonia> Voyage: everyone else seems to use these packages/repos just fine
[21:55] <ddrj> ohhh, weird i see it here hmm
[21:55] <ddrj> Dec 24 23:00:01 9ax CRON[21135]: (smmsp) CMD (test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp)
[21:55] <ikonia> so there must be something you are doing
[21:55] <Voyage> ikonia,  not everyone
[21:55] <ikonia> ddrj: show me the output of uname -a please
[21:55] <ddrj> ikonia: Linux 9ax 2.6.32-042stab108.8 #1 SMP Wed Jul 22 17:23:23 MSK 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:55] <TJ-> Voyage: the Debug output is pretty clear; the dependency chain relies on the upated kernel/Xorg stack from Vivid, but you don't have those installed.
[21:55] <ikonia> ddrj: thats not an ubuntu build
[21:56] <ikonia> ddrj: thats a cloud hosting basterised VPS server build
[21:56] <TJ-> !ltse | Voyage
[21:56] <ddrj> ikonia: yup this is on a vps
[21:56] <Voyage> TJ-,  hm ok, so what should I do?
[21:56] <ikonia> TJ-: vivid ? he said he was using trusty
[21:56] <TJ-> Voyage: I'm betting that PC does NOT have the later stacks; what does "cat /etc/issue" report?
[21:56] <ikonia> ddrj: get support from your cloud provider
[21:56] <ddrj> ok will do
[21:56] <TJ-> ikonia: the HWE from Vivid, which is equiv to 14.04.4
[21:56] <ddrj> thanks for the help either way
[21:56] <ikonia> ahhh HWE
[21:57] <Voyage> TJ-,  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[21:57] <TJ-> ikonia: right, and that http://pastebin.com/LPtssGUv  shows many packages require -lts-vivid package versions to be satisfied
[21:57] <ikonia> I see them
[21:57] <TJ-> Voyage: OK, let's triple-confirm this with "pastebinit <( dpkg -l 'linux*' )"
[21:58] <ikonia> I've not seen that paste, just the askubuntu pastes over and over
[21:58] <Voyage> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14201841/
[21:58] <TJ-> ikonia: yeah, that's what I asked for "sudo apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes $PACKAGE" - it debugs the resolver
[21:58] <ikonia> TJ-: it's a nice move, the resolver gives up the info easier
[21:59] <TJ-> !ltse | OK, so that confirms you need to execute the recommended package installs for "Desktop" as per
[21:59] <TJ-> Voyage: Use the "Multiarch Desktop" commands as given
[22:00] <TJ-> Voyage: (because that PC has foreign-architecture i386 installed as well)
[22:00] <Voyage> $ Multiarch Desktop
[22:00] <Voyage> Multiarch: command not found
[22:00] <ikonia> is't not a command
[22:00] <ikonia> READ the link
[22:00] <TJ-> Voyage: Follow the wiki link it's a heading in that page
[22:01] <Voyage> this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:01] <TJ-> Voyage: correct
[22:01] <SebastianTCL> im on lubuntu how can i add the ubuntu repos?
[22:01] <Voyage> ok
[22:01] <ikonia> SebastianTCL: they are already added
[22:01] <TJ-> SebastianTCL: they're the same thing
[22:01] <ikonia> SebastianTCL: lubuntu/ubuntu are the same repos
[22:02] <Voyage> TJ-,  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:02] <Voyage>  libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 : Depends: libudev1:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[22:02] <SebastianTCL> ikonia, when i go to lubuntu software center some search queries yield no results
[22:02] <TJ-> SebastianTCL: if you want to install the Ubuntu (Unity) desktop do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[22:02] <ikonia> SebastianTCL: it's the same repos
[22:03] <ikonia> Ubuntu365: please stop changing nicknames
[22:03] <Voyage> TJ-,  I got this error for sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-vivid:i386
[22:03] <SebastianTCL> TJ-, no I want to install a light window manager
[22:03] <Ben64> SebastianTCL: if you're on lubuntu you already have one
[22:03] <Ubuntu365> ikonia: why, does it show up on your screen
[22:03] <ikonia> Ubuntu365: we can see you changing names, yes
[22:03] <SebastianTCL> Ben64, no not a full de just a window manager like calm window manager
[22:04] <TJ-> Voyage: that /etc/issue said the version was 14.04.3, which should have been the Utopic kernel/Xorg stack, but those didn't appear to have been installed. That suggests there is some previous package installation history that is now breaking it.
[22:04] <Ubuntu365> ikonia: sorry, didn't realize that
[22:04] <ikonia> Ubuntu365: no problem
[22:04] <loler54> Can anyone tell me why this is happening?
[22:04] <loler54> http://pastebin.com/6drUmZv7
[22:04] <Voyage> TJ-,  hm
[22:04] <Voyage> TJ-,  what should be done now?
[22:04] <ikonia> loler54: the download isn't woring
[22:04] <ikonia> working
[22:04] <TJ-> Voyage: I'm investigating; give me a minute
[22:04] <Voyage> TJ-,  sure
[22:05] <Ben64> loler54: the error message explains it. the file isn't a zip
[22:05] <loler54> I tried the download link myself and it downloads a .zip file.. I even specified it to be saved as mybb.zip
[22:05] <Ben64> loler54: ok but the file isn't a zip
[22:06] <SebastianTCL> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-awesome-window-manager-3-5-6-on-ubuntu-14-10-ubuntu-14-04-and-derivative-systems/
[22:06] <SebastianTCL> ?
[22:06] <SebastianTCL> or is that discouraged due to some safety concern
[22:06] <ikonia> SebastianTCL: you can do what you want
[22:06] <loler54> Ben64, ikonia, http://pastebin.com/hC8mzHf0
[22:06] <Ben64> SebastianTCL: what ikonia said, anything you install from a 3rd party like that isn't supported in this channel though
[22:07] <SebastianTCL> ok
[22:07] <loler54> Ben64 how do I fix it? I'm new with Ubuntu/linu
[22:07] <SebastianTCL> ttyl
[22:07] <loler54> Linux*
[22:07] <Ben64> loler54: you see where it says text/html ? that means you downloaded a web page
[22:08] <TJ-> Voyage: I'm needing to pull some additional files into a 14.04 install to check this, still working on it
[22:08] <loler54> I downloaded the download web page? instead of the actual download? Ben64
[22:08] <Ben64> loler54: apparently
[22:09] <loler54> Ben64, thats strange, because when I go to http://www.mybb.com/download/latest, i get the download right away.. No web page
[22:10] <loler54> Ben64 I could try to delete it and find the actual version download instead of "latest" then try again :)
[22:11] <Voyage> TJ-,  sure
[22:12] <loler54> Found one lol.. Ben64 "rm -f mybb.zip" works for this? How did it not work though? since I saved it as a zip file
[22:12] <TJ-> Voyage: OK, to that "MULTIARCH DESKTOP" command add to the end of the package lists the one it complains about: " libudev1:i386" - and if you get further complaints repeat the process until it installs them all, or comes back with a different error
[22:12] <James410> hi, I've got a ubuntu question
[22:13] <TJ-> loler54: the reason 'wget' receives the HTML page is because you're not sending a valid session cookie to the server.
[22:13] <Ben64> loler54: what? you don't need to use rm -f to remove a normal file
[22:13] <TJ-> loler54: if you were to "cat bb.zip" you'd find it is actually the HTML text of an error report
[22:13] <loler54> TJ-, Ben64 Okey? Sorry to bother with these "noobish" questions but I'm fresh with this hehe
[22:14] <Ben64> loler54: thats what the channel is for, no need to be sorry
[22:14] <TJ-> loler54: many sites implement the cookie requirement to avoid having automated scripts creating Denial of Service and other bandwidth-hammering activities
[22:14] <casino_royale> I need CUDA 7.0. I performed these instructions http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#ubuntu-installation and ended up with CUDA 7.5 instead. How do I remove it?
[22:14] <loler54> Ben64 Hehe Thx.. Now how to i get it working TJ-?
[22:15] <casino_royale> Tried apt-get purge, the directory is still there in /usr/local/cuda-7.5
[22:15] <loler54> Ah I get it
[22:15] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok
[22:16] <TJ-> loler54: if you' had "cat bb.zip" you'd have seen in the text the real link is "http://resources.mybb.com/downloads/mybb_1806.zip"
[22:16] <loler54> Yeah got that link now.. Use that one then?
[22:17] <TJ-> loler54: yes, it's a client-side redirection instruction: <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=http://resources.mybb.com/downloads/mybb_1806.zip">
[22:17] <loler54> TJ- Ah.. Ok.. Will try! Thx!
[22:17] <TJ-> loler54: because wget isn't a HTML client it doesn't know about that so nothing else happens
[22:18] <Voyage> TJ-,  http://pastebin.com/1DdB5YVn
[22:18] <loler54> TJ- Ah.. Okey :) Thx :)
[22:19] <TJ-> Voyage: crickey; I'd love to know what you did to that system!
[22:19] <Voyage> TJ-,  really  nothing :)
[22:19] <loler54> Works now! Thx! TJ-, Ben64!
[22:20] <v01d> ‎hello!
[22:20] <Voyage> TJ-,  what now?
[22:21] <TJ-> Voyage: "pastebinit <( zgrep lts /var/log/apt/history.log.*.gz )" so we can check the package installation history for suspects
[22:22] <Voyage> TJ-,  thats empty
[22:22] <TJ-> Voyage: that's a good sign :)
[22:22] <Voyage> gzip: /var/log/apt/history.log.*.gz: No such file or directory
[22:22] <TJ-> Voyage: did you previously release-upgrade that system from 12.04, or 13.10, to 14.04 ?
[22:22] <Voyage> TJ-,  no
[22:23] <Voyage> TJ-,  I installed fresh 14.04 lts few days ago, upgraded it (no dist-upgrade). installed muon, vlc, virtualbox, chromium, krita, apache, php, via muon. thats it
[22:25] <Voyage> TJ-,  am?
[22:25] <Ben64> Voyage: why no dist-upgrade
[22:25] <TJ-> Voyage: we've seen something similar recently but I can't recall now how we finally solved that. I recall, vaguely, it was due to a multi-choice dependency (package A or B will be accepted) and it was picking one that led up a blind alley
[22:25] <Voyage> Ben64,  there was no available :)
[22:26] <Ben64> Voyage: that doesn't make sense
[22:26] <TJ-> Voyage: Ben64 makes a good point now. Try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" now
[22:26] <Voyage> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:27] <Ben64> Voyage: output of "uname -a" ?
[22:27] <Voyage> TJ-,  Ben64  it cant.. because the  14.04 lts is latest in lts
[22:27] <Ben64> dist-upgrade doesn't bring you to a new version
[22:27] <Voyage> Ben64,  Linux user1-Lenovo-G50-70 3.13.0-74-generic #118-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:52:10 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:28] <Voyage> Ben64,  then?
[22:28] <Voyage> TJ-,  what now
[22:28] <TJ-> Voyage: let's forget the -lts-vivid avenue for now before that breaks things some more
[22:28] <Ben64> it upgrades all the packages, and can remove or install new packages, like new kernels and things
[22:28] <Voyage> TJ-,  hm
[22:28] <TJ-> Voyage: I'm looking at the 14.04 wine1.6 dependencies
[22:29] <Voyage> TJ-,  for me skype is important too
[22:29] <Ben64> i'd still use the wine ppa for wine, newer version, better, stronger, faster
[22:29] <Voyage> TJ-,  but I guess both wine and skype are related in terms of issues
[22:29] <Voyage> Ben64,  isnt there a ppa for skype?
[22:29] <Voyage> Ben64,  yes agreed
[22:29] <ikonia> no
[22:29] <TJ-> Voyage: but it was Skype you needed wasn't it ?
[22:29] <Ben64> idk, i don't use proprietary stuff owned by microsoft
[22:29] <Voyage> TJ-,  both
[22:30] <Voyage> TJ-,  if I cant get skype, I will get wine and ms skype
[22:30] <ikonia> skype is ms skype
[22:30] <ikonia> I'm concerned by what you are saying
[22:30] <Voyage> the skype.exe one
[22:30] <ikonia> you can't do that
[22:30] <ikonia> thats for windows
[22:30] <Voyage> ikonia,  by wine i mean
[22:31] <ikonia> you can't do that
[22:31] <ikonia> and if you can't use skype due to 32bit package problems, you won't be able to use wine
[22:31] <Voyage> oh
[22:31] <Voyage> TJ-,  my sources: http://pastie.org/10650007
[22:32] <Ben64> Voyage: follow the rabbit hole, do "sudo apt-get install wine-1.6" and then "sudo apt-get install <the packages that failed>" then keep doing that until you reach the end, pastebin it all
[22:33] <Voyage> Ben64,  me and TJ-  just did it
[22:33] <Ben64> oh did i miss that
[22:33] <Voyage> yes
[22:33] <ikonia> it's holding back the 32bit packages
[22:33] <Ben64> i'm not seeing it above
[22:33] <Voyage> scroll?
[22:34] <Ben64> paste it again
[22:34] <TJ-> Voyage: the skype package in the partner repos is skype_4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[22:34] <Voyage> TJ-,  yes
[22:34] <TJ-> Voyage: that trailing part is for 12.04.1 Precise. That makes me wonder if any testing was done with it on the 14.04 point releases
[22:35] <Voyage> TJ-,  I have the same running on my other machine which is also 14.04 lts
[22:35] <ikonia> TJ-: good number of people using it on the 14.04 point releases with ease
[22:35] <ikonia> keep in mind thats just the metapackage version
[22:35] <Voyage> hm
[22:36] <ikonia> and it's also happening with wine
[22:36] <ikonia> 32bit packages
[22:36] <ikonia> so it's not skype thats the problem it's any 32bit packages are being held back as broken
[22:36] <Voyage> ye
[22:37] <ikonia> which should be straight forward in mult-arch
[22:37] <Finetundra_> Can anyone help me install a wireless driver with ndiswrapper?
[22:37] <Voyage> TJ-,  Ben64  ikonia  how to fix/remove those packages
[22:37] <ikonia> Voyage: remove what packages ?
[22:37] <TJ-> ikonia: right, but my point is there are no QA tests except for a base install; so other depends brought in by those other packages Voyage has installed may cause this, but it won't be picked up in QA testing
[22:37] <Voyage> ikonia,  broken ones
[22:38] <ikonia> TJ-: I take the point, but I don' tthink thats the issue, others are using it fine, and it's skype/wine 32bit libraries, not skype 32bit libs
[22:38] <Voyage> TJ-,  are you a memeber of ubuntu dev team?
[22:38] <ikonia> TJ-: there is something wrong with this guys install, rather than a problem with the packages
[22:38] <Voyage> ikonia,  not all
[22:38] <ikonia> (from what I've seen)
[22:38] <Voyage> you havnt seen all
[22:38] <ikonia> Voyage: I'm getting sick of explaining this to you
[22:39] <TJ-> ikonia: yes, but its due to the package combinations installed. I strongly suspect "libgl1-mesa-glx"
[22:39] <ikonia> if the packages where broken, it would fail for everyone
[22:39] <Voyage> ikonia,  then dont ")
[22:39] <nacc> exit
[22:39] <ikonia> Voyage: you're rigt - I won't, good luck
[22:39] <Voyage> ikonia,  kidding I was :)
[22:39] <ikonia> I'm not
[22:39] <Voyage> ikonia,  I know
[22:39] <ikonia> i'm tired of you arguing things
[22:39] <Voyage> if you call that arguing.
[22:39] <Voyage> TJ-,  are you a memeber of ubuntu dev team?
[22:39] <TJ-> Voyage: "libgl1-mesa-glx" is what skype Depends on; but you've got packages replacing the GLX drivers for, I think I saw, your AMD/ATI GPU (I assume you have fglxr installed)
[22:40] <Voyage> TJ-,  hm
[22:40] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok.
[22:40] <Voyage> TJ-,  what do you think would be the solution here?
[22:43] <Voyage> TJ-,  how about I uninstall all kubuntu desktop stuff or use aptitude to resolve situation. (it does gives allternatives)
[22:44] <TJ-> Voyage: it's worth a try seeing as the solution isn't obvious, but be careful not to permit ot do wholesale package removal to satisfy this
[22:45] <Voyage> TJ-,  http://pastebin.com/ncd66GXG
[22:46] <Voyage> TJ-,  should i shoot with 'y'
[22:46] <Ben64> still waiting on the paste i asked for
[22:47] <ikonia> TJ-: hangon doesn't aptitude have that multi-arch bug
[22:47] <Ben64> i think that got fixed ikonia
[22:47] <ikonia> !aptitude
[22:47] <pradeep_> hi
[22:47] <pradeep_> hi
[22:47] <TJ-> Ben64: see http://pastebin.com/1DdB5YVn
[22:47] <ikonia> Ben64: I wonder if it's fully fixed.....
[22:47] <pradeep_> hi
[22:48] <Ben64> TJ-: thats nothing about wine
[22:48] <TJ-> Ben64: wine1.6 was a side-track; the real problem is skype
[22:48] <Ben64> Voyage doesn't want wine at all?
[22:48] <TJ-> Voyage: don't let aptitude do that operation it'll do a wholesale breakage
[22:49] <Voyage> TJ-,  what to do now then
[22:49] <Voyage> Ben64,  I do.
[22:49] <TJ-> Voyage: i thought you were after wine1.6 to try to run skype.exe ?
[22:50] <Ben64> Voyage: then do what i asked for please
[22:50] <Voyage> TJ-,  well want wine and skype
[22:50] <Voyage> Ben64,  i think i lost the scroll limit
[22:50] <Voyage> Ben64,  i think i lost in the scroll limit
[22:50] <Ben64> Voyage: follow the rabbit hole, do "sudo apt-get install wine-1.6" and then "sudo apt-get install <the packages that failed>" then keep doing that until you reach the end, pastebin it all
[22:51] <Voyage> right
[22:51] <Voyage> Ben64,  here it is but for skype http://pastie.org/10651012
[22:51] <TJ-> the package resolver debug indicates its an openGL/GLX conflict
[22:52] <Voyage> TJ-,  ok what should I do?
[22:52] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm on enlightenment from base-install. What is a good ubuntu automount daemon?
[22:52] <ikonia> magic_ninja-lap: you're on what ?
[22:52] <TJ-> Ben64: this is the closest we've come to reporting the actual problem http://pastebin.com/LPtssGUv
[22:52] <magic_ninja-lap> enlightenment de with a minimal install of 15.10
[22:52] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm looking for a good automount service to install
[22:52] <ikonia> magic_ninja-lap: there isn't an E20 spin
[22:53] <ikonia> I don't think E20 has links into things like dbus/udev
[22:53] <magic_ninja-lap> I'm not using an E20 spin, I'm using a minimal install of ubuntu
[22:53] <Voyage> Ben64,  TJ-  are you guys in ubuntu dev team?
[22:53] <bartosz_> hi
[22:53] <bartosz_> Marry Xmas
[22:53] <Ben64> Voyage: you keep asking that, why?
[22:53] <ikonia> magic_ninja-lap: isn't E20 in a PPA ?
[22:53] <magic_ninja-lap> yea
[22:53] <magic_ninja-lap> anyway
[22:53] <Voyage> Ben64,  I want in too :)
[22:54] <magic_ninja-lap> dbus and udev are automount handlers?
[22:54] <ikonia> magic_ninja-lap: the PPA maintainer guys may know what additional packages they have linked in better than us
[22:54] <Ben64> Voyage: easy mode to fix - reinstall and don't do whatever you did to break it
[22:54] <bartosz_> Hi, I need some info, beacuse sometimes when I start PC, after GRUB2 there is a black screen and system doesn't start. This time after third time the system started.
[22:54] <Voyage> Ben64,  I have a LOT of things done that I have to redo if reinstalled
[22:55] <ikonia> Voyage: such as ?
[22:55] <Ben64> Voyage: like what? you said you only installed a couple days ago
[22:55] <bartosz_> with open suse was no problem
[22:55] <Voyage> Ben64,  I am a developer, some configs and evnironment
[22:55] <ikonia> Voyage: give examples ?
[22:55] <Voyage> Ben64,  10 days work
[22:55] <Voyage> ikonia,  we will get away from topic
[22:55] <TJ-> Ben64: Voyage haha! I've figured out why it's failing
[22:55] <Ben64> TJ-: go on...
[22:55] <Voyage> TJ-,  lol. wow
[22:56] <Voyage> TJ-,  whwyyyhwywywhwy
[22:56] <Voyage> I mean, why?
[22:56] <TJ-> In a 14.04 chroot I've been looking at the package file-lists, using "apt-file -a <arch> -F list <package>"
[22:57] <aotea> bartosz_, Can you enter TTY (ctrl + alt + f1/f2)?
[22:57] <Voyage> TJ-,  and?
[22:57] <TJ-> And, for "libcgmanager0" both the amd64 and i386 packages contain the same files (same path). The package manager will generally refuse to install a package that overwrites the content of another package; that's a Conflict
[22:57] <bartosz_> don't know I will try
[22:57] <Voyage> hm
[22:58] <Voyage> TJ-,  hm
[22:58] <Voyage> TJ-,  how to solve it in my case?
[22:58] <ikonia> TJ-: why is that not happening for everyone ?
[22:58] <TJ-> I'm not sure if on 14.04 there was the logic to see when the files were identically (hash wise) or not
[22:58] <TJ-> ikonia: I'm not sure, and this may be an (additional) red-herring, but I've been working my way through the list of conflicts reported on Voyage's system
[22:59] <ikonia> TJ-: I see the logic in where you're going, but I can't see how that would be intermitent
[22:59] <Ben64> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14202336/
[22:59] <TJ-> ikonia: I know, I'm trying to see anything else there too
[23:00] <Voyage> ikonia,  TJ-  not so techy but I tel you, if I upgrade fresh kubuntu. the problem comes. if I just install skype on fresh. it doesnt
[23:00] <Voyage> TJ-,  whats the solution?
[23:00] <ikonia> Voyage: stop asking "how to fix how to fix how to fix"
[23:00] <ikonia> people are working to help you - you are not helping by constantly asking the same thing over and over
[23:00] <Voyage> ikonia,  not asking you? b) is there a problem asking "for solutions"?
[23:00]  * Voyage appriciates
[23:00] <Ben64> Voyage: you're not so techy but you're a developer and you did "10 days of work" on your fresh install, but its still fresh?
[23:01] <Voyage> Ben64,  kind of fresh ya.
[23:01] <ikonia> Voyage: can you not see people are trying to help you - you're just repeating the same thing over and over, it's not helping anyone
[23:01] <Voyage> ikonia,  is getting touchy now
[23:01] <ikonia> no, I'm not
[23:01] <Ben64> Voyage: you're very inconsistent with what you're saying
[23:01] <ikonia> Voyage: what did you change in your setup o fyour development environment
[23:01] <HackerII> Voyage,  you have some of the best working on it, chill.
[23:02] <ikonia> walk us through it roughly
[23:02] <TJ-> Ben64: yes, I see that too, but on Voyage's system it all begins with libcgmanager0:i386 - that won't be be changed, and therefore libudev1:i386 won't be which prevents libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 ... and so on
[23:02] <Voyage> HackerII,  super.
[23:02] <ikonia> Voyage: at a high level - walk us through what you did to setup your machine after a fresh install
[23:02] <Voyage> TJ-,  take your time. no hurry
[23:02] <Voyage>  I installed fresh 14.04 lts few days ago, upgraded it (no dist-upgrade). installed muon, vlc, virtualbox, chromium, krita, apache, php, via muon. thats it
[23:03] <ikonia> thats 10 days work ?
[23:03] <ikonia> it doesn't add up
[23:03] <ikonia> thats 10 minutes work,
[23:03] <Ben64> TJ-: but i have a 14.04 install here, and it already has those packages without any issue, something is missing
[23:03] <Voyage> other work related things were, IDE, apache, php, jdk etc
[23:03] <ikonia> you must have done something more
[23:03] <Voyage> browsing
[23:03] <ikonia> Voyage: what IDE
[23:03] <Voyage> jetbrains
[23:03] <TJ-> Ben64: right, I'm trying an identical skype install operation now on a 14.04 chroot
[23:03] <ikonia> ok - where did get brains come from ?
[23:03] <Voyage> from jet; ikonia
[23:04] <ikonia> I mean what software source
[23:04] <Voyage> what/
[23:04] <bartosz__> aotea: probably works, but I to be 100% sure I'll check tomorrow. Thanks
[23:04] <Ben64> so reinstall, "sudo apt-get install muon vlc virtualbox chromium-browser krita apache2 php5" done
[23:04] <ikonia> Voyage: what software source did you get jetbrains from
[23:04] <Voyage> idea
[23:05] <aotea> bartosz__, That only allows you access to the machine so you can search for updates and read logfiles to see what might be wrong
[23:05] <godbod>  Hello and Merry Xmas here !
[23:05] <Voyage> TJ-,  I hope ikonia  wont mind if I ask you that when should I expect a response from you . I mean , I am not in a hurry nor pushing you but appreciating you.
[23:05] <bartosz__> how to check theese logs?
[23:05] <ikonia> Voyage: what software source did you get jetbrains from
[23:05] <bartosz__> where?
[23:06] <Voyage> ikonia,  dont understand your question
[23:06] <bartosz__> aotea: how to check these logs, where to find them
[23:06] <ikonia> Voyage: where did you get the software jetbraines from
[23:06] <ikonia> Voyage: I asked you if you had installed any software from non-ubuntu software sources earlier
[23:06] <Voyage> the website? gz file
[23:06] <ikonia> Voyage: and you said "no" everything came from the ubuntu repos
[23:06] <ikonia> now I see thats not true
[23:06] <Voyage> ikonia,  thats a standalone ide
[23:06] <Voyage> it has no link with systems core
[23:06] <ikonia> but I asked you clearly - did you use any 3rd party software sources
[23:06] <ikonia> and you said "no"
[23:07] <ikonia> now it turns out "yes" you did
[23:07] <Voyage> I still say no
[23:07] <ikonia> you've just told us you did ! how can you say "no"
[23:07] <Voyage> it has no link with the system. thus not in scope of you question.
[23:07] <ikonia> your feedback to questions is unaccaptable
[23:07] <Voyage> ikonia, dont accept it?
[23:07] <ikonia> Voyage: you get asked a question, you answer it, you don't decide
[23:07] <ikonia> you can't just hold back informtion, more so when you don't really understand the problem
[23:07] <Voyage> ikonia,  should i feel sorry that I forgot about it?
[23:08] <bartosz__> Can I say in english: You are idling my time instead of wasting ?
[23:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  I forgot about it as a human . Do you have any  other question?
[23:08] <Voyage> ikonia,  any other biography, or what I am developing. I have plenty of hours free. so feel free to interogate me
[23:08] <Voyage> TJ-,  there?
[23:09] <Voyage> :) after all it ends to this always
[23:09] <EriC^^> bartosz__: i dont think so, what are you trying to say exactly?
[23:09] <ikonia> Voyage: people are giving their time to help you - drop the smart moouth comments
[23:09] <aotea> bartosz__, Usually logs can be found in /var/log/ Just saying you're getting a black screen doesn't really leave anyone much to go on in helping you though
[23:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  is it ok if I put you on ignore? I humbly ask. Is it against channel policy?
[23:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  I am thankful to TJ-  and Ben64
[23:10] <ikonia> Voyage: I am asking you questions to understand what has changed on your system - as it's clear you're not offering up the full information, the only way to get that info is to aks you questions
[23:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  I very much THANK youfor your time. but I humbly ask you NOT to invest further time in my case. I am good with TJ-  and Ben64
[23:10] <bartosz__> aotea: i think that is something with maybe acpi, beacuse I can't change even the backlight value also linux doesn't see my battery
[23:10] <EriC^^> guys just check /var/log/apt/history.log
[23:10] <Voyage> ikonia,  I hope you dont mind ; sir/mam?
[23:11] <Voyage> ikonia,  I dont mean to be disrespectful
[23:11] <Voyage> ikonia,  but please ignore my case.
[23:11] <bartosz__> EriC^^: I checked that idle as a verb means waste so I just wondered
[23:11] <Voyage> thanks
[23:11] <ikonia> Voyage: I have no problem with that at all, but don't withold information to people tring to helpy you, and don't give smart responses to people giving their time and effort to help you
[23:11] <Ben64> Voyage: ikonia is not wrong, you need to answer questions honestly. it seems extremely likely at this point that you yourself did something to the system to cause this problem
[23:12] <Ben64> tried a few times to ask you what you did, and you couldn't give any information besides installing a few packages, and that it took "10 days of work" to complete
[23:12] <Voyage> ikonia,  I will try my best with others. your points about information are noted. Do note that humans may forget, make mistakes. It is also expected from you to be no violent and banning/kicking fast. However its your choice
[23:12] <ikonia> Voyage: you only get kicked when you give smart mouth response to reasonable questions rather than answer them
[23:12] <ikonia> answer questions or say "I don't know"
[23:13] <Voyage> ikonia,  I am smart by birth. Please ignore me.
[23:13] <ikonia> Voyage: I have no idea what that means
[23:13] <Voyage> I know
[23:13] <Voyage> but nevermind
[23:13] <Voyage> ikonia,  I assume that will be all from yourside.
[23:13] <EriC^^> bartosz__: it's like you guys are causing me to idle and not be productive
[23:13] <Voyage> ikonia,  I assume this discusion is over between me and you
[23:14] <ikonia> Voyage: what ?
[23:14] <Voyage> the discussion
[23:14] <Voyage> chat
[23:14] <ikonia> you're in a public channel
[23:14] <Voyage> communication
[23:14] <Voyage> ikonia,  yes
[23:14] <Voyage> but I am refering to you only
[23:14] <ikonia> Voyage: focus on your problem
[23:14] <ikonia> and anyone who has not switched off trying to help you
[23:14] <Voyage> I want you to put me on ignore or do not respond to my case
[23:14] <Voyage> appreicated
[23:15] <Voyage> but still vote it
[23:15] <EriC^^> bartosz__: it's like "you guys are causing me to idle and not be productive"
[23:15] <Voyage> is that ok with you?
[23:15] <ikonia> Voyage: sorry - you don't tell poeple to put you on ignore, just focus on your problem in a public channel
[23:15] <ikonia> Voyage: focus on your problem
[23:15] <Voyage> ikonia,  no, I am telling you not to respond or help me in my case. Is that ok to you?
[23:15] <bartosz__> EriC^^: okay, thanks for that
[23:15] <ikonia> Voyage: no, focus on your problem,
[23:16] <Voyage> so you want to help me, either I do or do not want?
[23:16] <bartosz__> hey guys it's Xmas, be polite ;P
[23:16] <ikonia> Voyage: focus on your problem with people wanting / able to help you,
[23:16] <EriC^^> bartosz__: no problem
[23:16] <bartosz__> where are you from guys?
[23:16] <TJ-> Grrr, the chroot's apt-show-versions lost it's /var/cache/ dir for some reason!
[23:16] <Voyage> ikonia,  thats not what I asked. :)
[23:17] <Voyage> ikonia,  no offense sir/mam really but I dont want help from you. I dont mean to offend but do I have a choice not to get chat lines from you?
[23:17] <Ben64> Voyage: holy crap, shut up
[23:17] <ikonia> Voyage: STOP, focus on your problem, this is the only time I'll tell you again
[23:18] <Voyage> Ben64,  it is uprofessional to say "shutup" to anyone. specially in public chat rop
[23:18] <Voyage> ikonia,  I see that you are an asset to ubuntuu and the decision to make you as an op was very wise. I wish you and ubuntu best of luck
[23:18] <Voyage> ok.
[23:18]  * Voyage stops
[23:18] <TJ-> With a --simulate install I see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/14202503/
[23:18] <NDPMacBook> Well that escalated quickly.
[23:18] <bartosz__> haha Voyage
[23:19] <morsnowski> Bon Voyage
[23:19] <bartosz__> you act like a prick :p
[23:19] <ikonia> bartosz__: stop it
[23:19] <bartosz__> morsnowski: a Ty Polak?
[23:19] <ikonia> bartosz__: enough please - the topic is ubuntu support, contribute to that topic or be quiet please.
[23:19] <morsnowski> bartosz__: Bahnhof?
[23:19] <ikonia> !guidelines | bartosz__
[23:20] <bartosz__> morsnowski: Polish nick
[23:21] <morsnowski> bartosz__: more snow ski?
[23:21] <morsnowski> could be anything
[23:21] <ikonia> chaps, maybe take this discussion to a pm please
[23:21] <ikonia> it's not really anything to do with the channel
[23:21] <morsnowski> ackn
[23:22] <Smarty> very unprofessional ikonia  Ben64
[23:22] <ikonia> Smarty: please drop it
[23:22] <ikonia> Smarty: you're ban evading - leave the channel
[23:23] <ikonia> if you want to discuss your ban join #ubuntu-ops as your real nickname
[23:24] <Smarty> for how long I am banned?
[23:24] <ikonia> Smarty: please use your real nick to join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban
[23:24] <ikonia> please stop trying to evade a ban
[23:24] <Smarty> ok
[23:25] <bartosz__> bye
[23:27] <tnd> hi!
[23:27] <aotea> Had some issues with my graphics drivers, installed bumblebee etc to run games on wine. Realized I wasn't supposed to be running bumblebee so did as suggested and purged that + the current nvidia drivers to install them again. However this time around with Nvidia-prime my computer freezes every now and then at random intervals, to come back to life with a lower resolution and no option to increase. Any Ideas?
[23:30] <Zant> hi mans
[23:35] <Finetundra_> Can anyone assist me with installing a driver from ndiswrapper
[23:35] <Bashing-om> aotea: What graphic's card ? Pastebin ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' please .
[23:35] <Finetundra_> ?
[23:37] <aotea> Bashing-om, GeForce GT 555M Nvidia
[23:38] <aotea> 352 Proprietary Drivers
[23:39] <ikonia> TJ-: for interest, I've just done a clean 14.04 install, upgraded to current and installed skype, zero issue
[23:39] <aotea> Bashing-om, http://termbin.com/5v9x
[23:41] <Ben64> ikonia: same, just finished in my vbox
[23:41] <ikonia> Ben64: mine was virtual too
[23:41] <ikonia> so thats the only real difference
[23:41] <Ben64> the difference is the 10 days of work done between installing and now
[23:42] <ikonia> Ben64: I agree,
[23:42] <ikonia> but it's impossible to pull that info
[23:42] <Ben64> attitude got in the way of fixing the problem
[23:43] <madaal> Hey guys i'm trying to install ubuntu on an old computer (more like a tablet) and it has 1hdd of 4G and 1ssd of 16G and I'm not really sure how to create the partition correctly on such a computer. Can smeone help me ?
[23:44] <julian-delphiki> Sportivo_50: stop pming people from this channel, you spammer.
[23:44] <Ben64> can confirm, Sportivo_50 messaging on join
[23:45] <julian-delphiki> !ops Sportivo_50 is PMing people from this channel, when they join\
[23:45] <julian-delphiki> err, thats not the command
[23:47] <Smarty> TJ-:  If you get an answer; please post it to http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[23:47] <OerHeks> madaal, use the 16 gb to install on, and 4 gb as extra storage, or use the 4gb as base, and move your /home/  to that 16 gb ..
[23:48] <OerHeks> i would choose the 1st one
[23:48] <madaal> OerHeks: what does "as a base" means ?
[23:48] <madaal> is it for root ?
[23:49] <OerHeks> Yes, /boot and /
[23:49] <Schnabeltierchen> someone knowing a good support chan for small bash scripts?
[23:49] <OerHeks> but 4 gb might be too small for that.
[23:50] <madaal> and the swap partition, I suppose I put it on the 16G
[23:50] <EriC^^> Schnabeltierchen: #bash
[23:51] <Schnabeltierchen> already in there, asked my question, no response :P
[23:51] <Bashing-om> aotea: Sorry got tied up in nother channel . I look at the card specs, be right back .
[23:52] <BlackFate> Schnabeltierchen, out of curiosity, what was the question?
[23:52] <Schnabeltierchen>  http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?905635 <-- i tried to tinker my own script, but got some error in my if function. someone can spot the error?
[23:53] <BlackFate> Schnabeltierchen, i think i do.. try to add a space between ' and ]
[23:54] <lubuntu> .explosionirc.net
[23:54] <BlackFate> Schnabeltierchen, why are curls inside [ ] ?
[23:55] <EriC^^> Schnabeltierchen: you also need to close the big if statement with a fi at the end
[23:55] <Bashing-om> aotea: Nvidia recommends the 253 version frivver . What is installed and loaded, pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? See what we can do .
[23:55] <Bashing-om> 352*
[23:55] <EriC^^> Schnabeltierchen: and the middle one
[23:58] <Schnabeltierchen> BlackFate added spaces, the curls are in [ cause i thought it would be safer and easier to seperate...
[23:59] <Schnabeltierchen> EriC^^ added the fi´s, version is looking like http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?905658