| clivejo | KCI is working again! | 00:53 |
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| pursuivant | muon (master) v5.4.3-173-g09eb704 * Carlo Vanini: (24 files in 6 dirs) | 01:24 |
| pursuivant | port away from KDELibs4Support | 01:24 |
| pursuivant | This removes the dependency from KDELibs4Support. | 01:24 |
| pursuivant | Added KF5 dependecies are I18n, IconThemes and XmlGui. | 01:24 |
| pursuivant | http://commits.kde.org/muon/09eb704a0eea433712b90a7f215d64490e613e57 | 01:24 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:52 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks, and Merry Christmas! | 12:01 |
| soee | hiho | 14:46 |
| soee | yofel: i'm now on Xenial (did upgrade yesterday), so i can test new stuff on it now | 15:25 |
| soee | BluesKaj: also Merry Christmas :) | 15:28 |
| BluesKaj | Merry Chritmas to you too, soee :-) | 15:29 |
| soee | i jumped to Xenial yesterday and it works just fine :) | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | soee, mine went bad yesterday, it was unusable , so I'm back on 14.04 today, I'll install 16.04 later when plasma5.5.2 is in the backports | 15:32 |
| soee | well i had some errors with upower and plymouth but everything works fine | 15:32 |
| soee | but i did also upgrade Windows 7 -> Windows 10, and it somehow made my Kubuntu installation to start 1:30 min ecause of some error | 15:33 |
| soee | and in teh end it was bad UUID of my swap partition so i can say Windows make me fix bug in linux system :D | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | I must confess i screwed up my permissions playing around with links to the sources.list and shut myself out of all my apt apps :-) , but previous to that the desktop kept freezing and had errors trying update and upgrade | 15:35 |
| soee | :( | 15:36 |
| soee | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/25/snapshot42.png | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | soee, how are the Xenial repos working , any 404s ? | 16:56 |
| soee | BluesKaj: i don't see any 404 | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | soee, ok thanks | 18:11 |
| soee | 2 bugs i noticed so far: | 18:11 |
| soee | muon can't be closed by pressing X button in windows decoration | 18:11 |
| soee | Drivers Manager in System Settings does not list drivers | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | yeah you have to use the quit button in muon, and the driver manager is not working | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | plus the system tray doesn't respond to any option choices | 18:14 |
| soee | what choices ? | 18:15 |
| BluesKaj | to show or hide or set to auto | 18:15 |
| soee | you mean settings ? but you can activate applets right ? | 18:17 |
| soee | well it worked fine till i played with the setings now :D | 18:19 |
| soee | and now konversation icon is always visible :/ | 18:19 |
| soee | BluesKaj: i removed konversation for systray visible list by editing configuration file | 18:36 |
| BluesKaj | soee, that shouldn't be necessary | 18:38 |
| valorie | merry Christmas everyone who celebrates | 21:05 |
| clivejo | you too valorie | 21:06 |
| clivejo | although Im glad its almost over here! | 21:06 |
| valorie | the big party is over here, last night | 21:07 |
| valorie | crazytown with all the excited children | 21:07 |
| valorie | we'll head off for a more sedate dinner with Bob's brother and wife in a couple of hours | 21:08 |
| clivejo | yeah, its crazy | 21:08 |
| valorie | I love it though | 21:08 |
| valorie | and we had an almost-white xmas | 21:08 |
| valorie | not enough for a snowball though | 21:08 |
| clivejo | ours is wet and cold | 21:08 |
| clivejo | but Ive had enough of family now! | 21:09 |
| valorie | xmas eve is my side of the family, xmas day with my husband's | 21:11 |
| valorie | nice to spread it out that way, especially for my kids | 21:11 |
| valorie | :-) | 21:11 |
| soee | second christmas with my family and nephew :D cool time | 21:11 |
| valorie | any excuse for celebration is fine by me! | 21:12 |
| soee | :D | 21:12 |
| clivejo | my family over do things | 21:12 |
| * valorie had eggnog in the morning coffee | 21:12 | |
| valorie | I skipped the rum though | 21:12 |
| clivejo | all the best china plates, silver cutlery comes out | 21:12 |
| soee | ;] | 21:12 |
| soee | but i fond time to upgradesystem to Xenial :-) | 21:13 |
| clivejo | soee: you must not have been paiding attention then!! | 21:13 |
| clivejo | paying | 21:13 |
| valorie | well, I brought out the silver, but we had paper plates and munchies and sandwiches | 21:13 |
| valorie | no space for a formal dinner for so many people | 21:14 |
| soee | clivejo: why ? | 21:14 |
| valorie | more fun to just let the kids rip | 21:14 |
| clivejo | LOL my family we have no internet, have to listen to the same old jokes and pretend to laugh at them | 21:15 |
| clivejo | there’s no communications with the outside world bar a very old telephone line! Its like going back in time | 21:16 |
| soee | whee do you live ? | 21:17 |
| clivejo | rural Ireland | 21:17 |
| soee | and why it is bad ? :) | 21:17 |
| clivejo | I dont like being totally cut off! | 21:18 |
| soee | i just love to leave it all teh net/work stuff and spend some days in the wild :) | 21:18 |
| clivejo | Ill swap you | 21:18 |
| soee | valorie: do we raport Xenial bugs somewhere already or it is to early ? | 21:19 |
| soee | clivejo: nice remix to relax: https://soundcloud.com/dj-eurojamz/lord-of-the-rings-techno :) | 21:20 |
| valorie | hmmm, I would say yes | 21:20 |
| valorie | the sooner we fix the bugs, the better our LTS will be | 21:20 |
| valorie | never too early to begin polishing | 21:21 |
| soee | ah ok, i will consult them with Philip first | 21:21 |
| valorie | I mean, KDE bugs are a no-brainer | 21:21 |
| valorie | of course report those | 21:21 |
| valorie | our own bugs, as you say, are a bit more complicated | 21:22 |
| clivejo | soee: whats the bug? | 21:23 |
| soee | clivejo: muon can't be closed using window decoration, System Settings -> Driver Manager does not load drivers list, systray is broken if we play with show/hide/auto settings for sme entries (it cant be changed back) | 21:24 |
| valorie | I think those should all be reported | 21:25 |
| valorie | upstream | 21:26 |
| soee | yup, also Bluskay confirmed them all | 21:26 |
| valorie | then the sooner reported, the better | 21:28 |
| clivejo | wonder when driver manager stopped working | 21:28 |
| valorie | probably when shadeslayer stopped caring about it | 21:29 |
| valorie | :( | 21:29 |
| clivejo | it was working | 21:32 |
| valorie | it used to work well, yeah | 21:38 |
| valorie | I've not had to use it for awhile | 21:38 |
| clivejo | KCI is back online, but not triggering rebuilds on debian git changes | 21:44 |
| valorie | I saw a discussion earlier about moving back to launchpad, now that we can use git there | 21:45 |
| valorie | I thought part of the use of our Kubuntu packaging in the Debian git was so that they could use our work | 21:46 |
| valorie | but perhaps it isn't being used by them? | 21:46 |
| clivejo | yeah and vice versa | 21:47 |
| valorie | anyway, I'm going to go away from my keyboard and get ready to head out to my brother-in-law's for dinner | 21:47 |
| clivejo | Debian seems to be ahead of us at the moment | 21:47 |
| valorie | well, we've always used their packages | 21:47 |
| valorie | right | 21:47 |
| valorie | so those merges that Scarlett was doing would help a lot | 21:48 |
| clivejo | Maxy seems to be working hard | 21:48 |
| valorie | I'm hoping that we can get this all done in the next week, and start the new year with a bang | 21:48 |
| clivejo | getting all what done? | 21:48 |
| valorie | and then polish up our packaging documentation | 21:48 |
| valorie | all the stuff in the /topic | 21:48 |
| clivejo | eakk | 21:49 |
| valorie | we've got new people asking to help | 21:49 |
| valorie | but our docs suck, so they don't know where to start | 21:49 |
| clivejo | that ambitious! | 21:49 |
| valorie | maybe not all the apps | 21:49 |
| valorie | but at least the testing, and Plasma 5.5.2 | 21:50 |
| clivejo | well Im stuck on kwin | 21:50 |
| valorie | that's a biggie for sure | 21:51 |
| clivejo | I think its quite simple | 21:52 |
| clivejo | I just cant get my head around it | 21:52 |
| soee | docs are alway the most important thing when working with any kind of deveoping, progrmming etc | 21:52 |
| clivejo | soee: I disagree | 21:53 |
| clivejo | an experienced and good mentor | 21:53 |
| clivejo | sometimes you can read docs until your eyes are sore, but just being told the solution in the context you are working in and it all comes together | 21:54 |
| clivejo | but I do think the KCC need to take the lead :P | 21:58 |
| clivejo | if someone shows an interest, net them quickly and get them communicating with the people who can help develop the skills | 21:59 |
| clivejo | people look at the website and see no activity since Jon "stood" down. New people just see that as a community falling apart :( | 22:05 |
| * clivejo wanders off | 22:07 | |
| valorie | clivejo: point taken. I'm trying to do that, but we need all of us leading | 22:45 |
| valorie | soee: i agree that they are foundational | 22:46 |
| valorie | clivejo: I agree that hands-on is also fundamental | 22:46 |
| valorie | we need both, and right now, our docs aren't there for us | 22:46 |
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