[06:07] <lotuspsychje> merry xmass to all
[06:08] <slidinghorn> morning lotus, and Merry Christmas :)
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> hey slidinghorn
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-let-users-move-the-unity-launcher-at-the-bottom-of-the-screen-498000.shtml
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> all the stuff we been angry for years ago comes back now lol
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> brb
[06:13] <Ben64> meh, still don't want unity
[06:16] <slidinghorn> I've never once used it....
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> merry xmass cfhowlett
[08:51] <cfhowlett> and you lotuspsychje
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks, and Merry Christmas!
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon guys
[13:29] <DosTuMai> Afternoon. =]
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> hey DosTuMai merry xmass :p
[13:32] <DosTuMai> Seasons greetings to you, too. =]
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: thank you ; )
[13:37] <DosTuMai> I missed wishing everyone a blessed solstice on 22nd, so a belated to one and all. =]
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: what does that mean blessed solstice
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> a feast our country dont know?
[13:44] <DosTuMai> It's an astronomical event: The winter solstice is the longest day of the year.
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> ah
[13:45] <DosTuMai> Summer is the shortest. Then there's the equinox in spring & autumn/fall where the day & night are the same length.
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: and you guys celebrate that?
[13:46] <DosTuMai> I'm in England and don't celebrate Christ's mass.
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> ah ic
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> !printers
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> DJones: seems like its fixxed mate, tnx again for reporting
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: wb mate
[13:54] <cfhowlett> hey hey lotuspsychje
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: support is ZZZzzzzZZ on xmass :p
[13:54] <cfhowlett> well, NORMALLY, I would be in a sweet potato pie / eggnog coma, but neither is readily found in Beijing so ...
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:55] <DosTuMai> Could swap places if you want, cfhowlett. It's nasty and seasonal everywhere in England.
[13:56] <cfhowlett> UK?  eh, thanks but no ...
[15:00] <DosTuMai> lotuspsychje: Madness is doing seasonal things, so he wont be on air. But if we're lucky - Wiggles will cover his slot and do a mix show.
[16:53] <pauljw> hi everyone
[16:53] <BluesKaj> hey pauljw. Merry Christmas :-)
[16:54] <pauljw> :) right back at ya BluesKaj
[17:56] <daftykins> merry christmas team o/
[17:56] <nicomachus> merry christmas to you too.
[17:57] <nicomachus> waiting for all my family to get here
[17:57] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Did Santa indicate you as naughty or nice ?
[17:57] <daftykins> hehe, oddly my parents decided to give me something a month ago already, so all i've been gifted with today was a nice roast dinner for lunch!
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> merry xmass to you guys aswell
[17:58] <Bashing-om> Well, ^ must not have been all bad this year !
[17:59] <DosTuMai> Everyone having a nice Lemmy day?
[18:00] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: And to you a merry xmas .. and just around the corner, a merrier New Year .
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> tnx Bashing-om
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> time to go now fellas
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> have a good one
[18:00] <DosTuMai> Enjoy the rest of your day, lotuspsychje. =]
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> tnx tnx
[18:03] <daftykins> i'm totally filled with food and just sat back on a sofa at my parents with the dogs snoring around me :)
[18:05] <DosTuMai> Wait... (Quit: = Ubuntu 14.04.3 64bit Samsung SSD EVO 840=) <-Ubuntu on a Samsung phone? =o
[18:05] <nicomachus> nah he's just bragging about his SSD
[18:05] <DosTuMai> Oh, oki.
[18:05] <OerHeks> 'just' an EVO, not PRO
[18:06] <daftykins> :)
[18:07] <daftykins> i always found those forums where people state the spec of their PCs to be really quite sad
[18:08] <nicomachus> haha, never venture onto http://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace then
[18:08] <nicomachus> or /r/linuxmasterrace, for that matter...
[18:08] <DosTuMai> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12369251_438331863039250_7693074436485259730_n.jpg?oh=9aa7bca07a43f26891283d7a6c7f1720&oe=57139FA9
[18:09] <daftykins> nah i can't stand reddit at all as a concept, it's full of people with... *gasp* OPINIONS!
[18:09] <nicomachus> lol
[18:10] <daftykins> bad enough on here ;)
[18:10] <DosTuMai> Opinions are like assholes: everyone has one, and it's not nice to flash them in public.
[18:12] <daftykins> 'xactly!
[18:23] <BluesKaj> there's nothing wrong with opinions as long as they're expressed as opinions and not promoted as facts
[18:24] <DosTuMai> True. But some people don't get that.
[18:27] <nicomachus> well... I downloaded some tracks on soundcloud and have no idea where they decided to call home...
[18:28] <DosTuMai> Time to search! xD
[18:28] <nicomachus> been doin!
[18:28] <DosTuMai> And it'll be in a hidden directory for some unknown reason.
[18:29] <nicomachus> shoulda gone to ~/Music... but didn't.
[19:00] <Bashing-om> On hold for Christmas dinner ~
[19:02] <daftykins> i have to admit, checking out the download process for Fedora is much nicer than Ubuntu's - https://getfedora.org/en_GB/server/download/
[19:02] <slidinghorn> Just a quick pop-in to say hello and Merry Christmas to those who are celebrating today!   Off to my sister's for the festivities :)
[19:03] <daftykins> fully https experience, then once you click through you have verify methods right there on the page
[19:04] <daftykins> slidinghorn: merry christmas and enjoy o/
[19:04] <daftykins> keep safe out there :)
[19:04] <slidinghorn> will do, thanks
[19:05] <OerHeks> yeah, keep on the https side
[19:06] <nicomachus> I don't really see the benefit of of SSL on the ubuntu site... no personal info ever goes through there, does it?
[19:06] <nicomachus> what need is there for encrypting traffic?
[19:07] <OerHeks> maybe ... some say 1 billion users come there
[19:09] <daftykins> well i can see the point, however weak it is - and it's not like it'd be much effort to change
[19:10] <daftykins> the page you're on after downloading ubuntu server is rubbish compared with the fedora one, where you get shown verify hash info as just one click away
[19:11] <DosTuMai> Also, you can embed malicious software in a file that's being downloaded. If you catch someone at the right time to redirect the d/l/
[19:15] <DosTuMai> That's what they were talking about in #ubuntu, but there's really no point because Linux users are generally smart enough to look at checksums before installing.
[19:16] <daftykins> i don't agree there, the distro is meant to be for newbies
[19:16] <daftykins> so it should all be right from the start
[19:17] <DosTuMai> True, but MITM attacks are so rare, it's a non-issue. Especially with Linux distros.
[19:23] <daftykins> *nod* very tinfoil hat really
[19:24] <DosTuMai> I bet he looks at contrails and screams, "ILLERMINATTI!!!!!!11!!!1!one1!"
[19:28]  * daftykins installs fedora server in a VM
[19:29] <DosTuMai> xD
[19:31] <daftykins> 606 packages downloaded
[19:32] <DosTuMai> I am Red Hat/Fedora scum. xD
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Bilderberg for you
[19:36] <daftykins> weirds me out that Fedora pushes xfs as the standard fs
[19:39] <DosTuMai> I want to ask LJSeinfeld the person's name so I can try converting them to Pastafarianism.
[19:40] <DosTuMai> I'm not too sure why they use XFS over standard, Daftykins.
[19:41] <daftykins> i use it on a clients 24TB file server
[19:41] <daftykins> meant to be good for larger fewer files
[19:43] <DosTuMai> That could be the reason. I used to run Suse on my servers. >_>
[19:46] <daftykins> i had to use CentOS in Uni
[19:46] <daftykins> yum yum yum
[19:47] <DosTuMai> Yah, it's odd switching and going yum. xD
[19:49] <daftykins> though i understand even that's replaced now?
[19:49] <daftykins> i don't usually dare try other distros 'cause i don't fancy the new package manager head ache :P
[19:49] <DosTuMai> It is? I haven't used any other flavours for years. xD
[19:50] <daftykins> yeah definitely heard something new came along
[19:50] <daftykins> dnf
[19:50] <DosTuMai> Hmm, oki. *Waddles over to g00gle.*
[19:51] <daftykins> i found - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF
[19:52] <daftykins> "Notice that upgrading F21 to F22 will not cause the compat package to be installed so will not disturb any upgrading users."
[19:52] <daftykins> maybe that's relevant
[19:53] <DosTuMai> Yah, looks like you'd need to `yum|dnf` with older installs.
[19:55] <daftykins> DosTuMai: did you see my pic of working on that samsung in the end? i forget
[19:56] <DosTuMai> Nope, but that would be pornographic! D=
[19:58] <DosTuMai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahlWufJqcSQ
[19:58] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4cycurzc11p65o/IMG_20151224_181821.jpg?dl=0
[19:59] <daftykins> you know you want to see! :P
[19:59] <DosTuMai> Oh my, I'm all hot under the collar. =o
[20:00] <DosTuMai> That's not the worst screen I've ever seen.
[20:00] <daftykins> i think my mate has some action shots of me working on it
[20:01] <DosTuMai> Really should upload a few more videos to youtube.
[20:02] <DosTuMai> Gah, Coldfront is experiencing netsplits again.
[20:02] <daftykins> :<
[20:08] <daftykins> wow - what is all this - a web management UI O_O
[20:09] <DosTuMai> Most Fedora users use it for web servers.
[20:10] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh6df33rr0rd3rt/fedora.png?dl=0
[20:10] <daftykins> i bet this net install is a chunky monkey
[20:11] <daftykins> 1.3GB used, not bad
[21:02] <DosTuMai> Be going to bed in hour.
[21:08] <daftykins> 10pm!? that's early
[21:08] <daftykins> early start tomorrow?
[21:09] <DosTuMai> Yah, trains and busses will get me to work far too late tomorrow.
[21:11] <DosTuMai> So, I'm gonna have to get up at 0400 so I can get to work on time.
[21:12] <DosTuMai> My travels to work tomorrow will start at 0530, so I need time to digest breakfast.
[21:12] <daftykins> >_<
[21:24] <DosTuMai> There was some holiday thing on this week, so trains that I normally catch aren't starting until 2hr _after_ I start work tomorrow.
[21:29] <daftykins> you getting any extra pay for being in on a hol?
[21:30] <DosTuMai> Pfft, you're kidding, right? It's not a bank holiday.
[21:30] <daftykins> i don't even
[21:31] <DosTuMai> Welcome to work as a CSA.
[21:31] <daftykins> custard sauce admin
[21:32] <DosTuMai> Pretty much.
[21:33] <DosTuMai> Unappreciated, get shouted at by idiots, and given unreachable targets.
[21:33] <DosTuMai> I'm supposed to handle an average 21.5 calls/hour.
[21:33] <daftykins> oy
[21:34] <DosTuMai> I'm close - 16.2 - but not close enough. Fuck you, Argos.
[21:35] <daftykins> some bloke mentioned working for umm, rackspace, i saw some interesting Linux jobs on their site
[21:35] <daftykins> not favoured ends of England though :P
[21:36] <DosTuMai> They're in my neck of the woods IIRC.
[21:39] <DosTuMai> Oop noorth lahk, lad.
[21:45] <daftykins> XD
[21:46] <DosTuMai> And I'm a southern fairy. I was raised in Berkshire. xD
[21:47] <daftykins> i used to tease a dude i was at Uni with (Portsmouth) for being northern, he was from there ;)
[21:47] <daftykins> can't get further south than me other than being on Jersey (and still be British)
[21:48] <DosTuMai> xD
[21:48] <daftykins> right i think i'm gonna be in transit myself heading back home, shortly
[21:49] <daftykins> so gl with your morning travels o
[21:49] <daftykins> o/
[21:49] <DosTuMai> Thankies. Safe journeys. o/
[21:58] <daftykins> ta!
[21:58] <DosTuMai> Well, I'm going to sleep. Have fun and good luck all. o/
[22:00] <daftykins> TJ-: merry christmas to you o/
[22:02] <TJ-> I don't get merry :D
[22:02] <daftykins> haha, bit further? ;)