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BluesKajHiyas all12:11
penguin42ok, that's weird13:54
penguin42this reinstalled laptop - when I start up NM runs at 100% until I flick the RF-off switch on/off13:55
nick25Is it possible to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 for early testing? (since the repositories are already setup)17:43
nick25If so, what's the best procedure?17:43
lotuspsychjenick25: ive had luck with 15.10 to 16.0417:45
lotuspsychjenick25: with do-release-upgrade -d17:46
lotuspsychjenick25: i also tested from 14.04, but brake on me17:48
nick25lotuspsychje: that's good to know, thank you17:50
lotuspsychjenick25: but now xenial is installed running pretty stable here17:51
BluesKajlotuspsychje:  yeah it's ok now in most ways17:55
BluesKajaltho plasma 5.4.3 here is still not quite ready for prime time, but it's merely a transitional phase to plasma 5.5.217:56
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: ok tnx for letting know17:57
penguin42yeh I've upgraded here; although the xenial kernel isn't happy on my machine18:37
lotuspsychjepenguin42: upgraded from wich?18:37
penguin42lotuspsychje: from W18:37
lotuspsychjekk18:37
penguin42lotuspsychje: I always only go one step at a time18:37
lotuspsychjepenguin42: what you mean18:38
penguin42lotuspsychje: I never upgrade across more than one version18:38
lotuspsychjepenguin42: ah, i mostly clean install18:39
penguin42lotuspsychje: Oh I only clean install when replacing hardware; like last week when I put an ssd in; but I've had upgrades over at least 5-10 versions - but always upgrade to the next version, check it's ok before going any further18:40
lotuspsychjepenguin42: wich ssd brand you have?18:40
penguin42lotuspsychje: Sandisk - bottom of the range was on really cheap offers over xmas18:42
lotuspsychjepenguin42: cool!18:42
lotuspsychjepenguin42: how fast is xenial booting on that sandisk?18:45
penguin42lotuspsychje: Well yesterday it managed about 9s on systemd-analyse (on this old core2duo)18:47
lotuspsychjenice18:47
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penguin42wth is a gpu-manager.service and why did it take 20s out of my boot18:50
penguin42systemctl disable gpu-manager     should fix that18:51
* penguin42 should take some of the other irrelevant stuff out as well18:52
lotuspsychjepenguin42: yeah i also disable unwanted services18:53
lotuspsychje(on trusty)18:53
penguin42lotuspsychje: Yeh but whatever gpumanager is it shouldn't take 20 seconds18:56
lotuspsychjepenguin42: not sure mate, what grafix card you havin?18:57
penguin42lotuspsychje: Plain old intel onboard18:57
lotuspsychjehmmz weird18:58
lotuspsychjepenguin42: maybe take a look in lightdm log whats going on?18:58
penguin42well there's a /var/log/gpu-manager.log - not that it really says what took so long19:02
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soldidhey guys any plans on how nautilus gonna look in 16.0422:46
ikoniaplans ?22:46
ikoniahave you looked at the pre-release builds ?22:46
soldidyes, i think they should consider including the patches to bring back non-csd nautilus22:47
ikoniaprobably a bit late in the day22:47
ikoniahave you looked if those patches are included ?22:47
soldidyea, those patches are included in the src but i dont think they work22:48
soldidat least they dont do anything for me when i patch by hand, nautilus 3.18 has some changes i think22:48
ikonia.......so you're asking them to include patches that are already included22:48
soldididk man, but it looks to me that the patches for menu and non-csd windows are not working22:49
ikoniasoldid: so I'll re-ask22:49
ikoniasoldid: do you know if the patches are already included ?22:49
ikonia(as in the patches you are asking about)22:49
ilhamihey ::D22:51
soldidactually it seems they are not, i just runned apt-get source on nautilus and it seems its not there22:51
ikoniasoldid: ok, are they needed, eg: have the patches been rolled up into the current version for 16.0422:51
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/nautilus/+changelog22:52
soldidnooo the patches are not essential per se, but i think most people will notice a difference between 15.10 and 16.0422:53
soldidcompiz has some problems with csd apps overall, it renders them poorly22:53
soldid  * The update uses GtkHeaderBar decorations and has no menubar for now,     the menus are coming back later and UI is likely to be tweaked again     based on the feedback from this version22:54
soldidthis is the change22:54
soldidany info on that22:54
OerHeksso a poor incomplete 3th party theme is giving issues, not nautilus?22:54
soldidwell, nautilus for example now doesnt have a menu at all, only local menu in right corner22:55
soldidit seems to me that only gnome appmenu gets exposed to unity-gtk3-module although im not well versed in code22:57
soldidi could try to patch / compare to older version to restore it, but it could add to complexity against upstream22:58
soldidim gonna ping launchpad but overall it seems like there is not much movement there23:02
soldidi want 16.04 to be a very solid release like 14.0423:02

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