[05:37] <mapps> hi :D
[06:27] <mapps> noone around again
[06:27] <mapps> where's all the night owls/ones that dont sleep;p
[09:33] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:41]  * brobostigon waves at mapps 
[12:50] <penguin42> hmm blue sky here today
[13:05] <zmoylan-pi> first day i can't hear rain since before crimbo
[13:08] <penguin42> all the rain is in york today I think
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> and my hope was just crushed by the headline... http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/seeing-a-respite-from-the-rain-not-for-long-sorry-713098.html
[13:21] <penguin42> hmph and you have to register for the service that bytemark put their webcam on
[20:07] <diplo> Evening all, anyone about tonight, notice its been a tad quiet :)
[20:08] <penguin42> hey diplo
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> people are sleeping off a few kg of turkey i suspect
[20:08] <diplo> hey penguin42 / zmoylan-pi  :) and probably yeah
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> or trying to read manuals not written in english
[20:08] <diplo> Just wondering if anyone here has done any soldering and stuff in recent years, I haven't but want to order a soldering iron
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> or trying to work out how to fetch a drone that's stuck somewhere out of reach
[20:09] <diplo> Just don't know whether a £10 would be suffice for some soldering for doing some home auto stuff
[20:10] <penguin42> diplo: I do a little but I'm pretty awful at it
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> ditto, a cheap iron from maplins should do 99% of what you want
[20:11] <penguin42> diplo: The basic thing to get right is the size of the tip and power; you get some huge ones for doing plumbing/stained glass work that are completely useless for soldering electronic projects
[20:12] <diplo> Thinking of something like this...
[20:12] <diplo> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-61257-230V-Soldering-Iron/dp/B00MEEYB46/ref=sr_1_5?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1451246441&sr=1-5&keywords=soldering+iron
[20:12] <penguin42> right, you don't want that
[20:12] <diplo> Can buy different tips for it
[20:12] <diplo> Not powerful enough ?
[20:12] <penguin42> hmm ok
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> my last few irons were gas powered jobbies as i like the idea of portability
[20:12] <penguin42> it is only 25w I guess
[20:13] <penguin42> so it should be ok for small electronic stuff
[20:13] <penguin42> can't really tell how big the top is
[20:13] <diplo> Basically want to tinker with home auto stuff, going to buy some bread boards, temp sensors etc and start tinkering with basics in the attempt to extend over the next few weeks/months
[20:14] <penguin42> I geuss that sohuld be OK actually but I can't really tell the tip size
[20:15] <penguin42> I'm used to the little Antex things http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antex-XS25-Powered-Mains-Soldering/dp/B00862W052/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1451247214&sr=1-1&keywords=soldering+iron+antex
[20:15] <diplo> No it's a bit hard, may go for a trip to Maplins
[20:16] <penguin42> yeh they wont be cheap
[20:19] <diplo> yeah i checked their site yesterday, don't want to spend a fortune until I'm sure I'm going to be keeping it up :D
[20:20] <diplo> But I guess it's always good to have a decent soldering iron, want to have a go at fixing my 360 and other stuff
[20:20] <diplo> I've not done anything for probably 15-20 years :D
[20:21] <diplo> Last stuff I did was actually braizing, similar technique
[20:23] <daftykins> what's your 360 got wrong?
[20:28] <diplo> RROD
[20:29] <diplo> I've been told by a few people it's worth trying to remove some parts to see if it'll work after some new paste etc
[20:29] <diplo> Got a new one already, so thought why not try :)
[20:30] <daftykins> ah we might've spoken of it before
[20:31] <daftykins> but damn, nah just buying the cheap couple-of-pound new heatsink bolts for the graphics chip and redoing it with those nice and tight can work
[20:31] <diplo> maybe. although I've not talked about fixing it, one of the lads in game recommended me to when I bought a replacemnet
[20:34] <diplo> you everdone one daftykins ?
[20:35] <daftykins> yep a couple
[20:35] <daftykins> a mate has done tens of them with the same method too
[20:36] <diplo> Good success rate ?
[20:36] <daftykins> he reckons none of his have ever gone bad again, mine lived for an extra year or so
[20:36] <penguin42> is this mainly the problem of the main chip desoldering itself from heat?
[20:37] <diplo> Cool, recommendation on where you bought them ?
[20:37] <diplo> I believe so penguin42, the paste either goes off/hasn't been seated very well
[20:38] <daftykins> it's not paste related at all
[20:38] <diplo> oh right
[20:40] <diddledan> evening
[20:41] <daftykins> hmm something new http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xbox-360-Hybrid-eXtreme-Uniclamp-ROD-XClamp-Repair-Kit-/120864512204
[20:41] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XBOX-360-REPAIR-KIT-COMPLETE-free-p-p-RROD-e73-e74-BUY-2-GET-1-FREE-/261480995492
[20:41] <diddledan> ROD Xclamp?
[20:41] <daftykins> or the old classic
[20:42] <daftykins> excellent eyes, diddledan :D
[20:42] <diddledan> you're gonna make me read it
[20:42] <daftykins> replacement fixings for the xbox360 heatsink mounts
[20:43] <diddledan> o_O
[20:44] <daftykins> believe it or not, fixing the GPU sink down tighter after making it heat itself up with none on or something helps a lot work again
[20:46] <diddledan> I got one of these for xmas :-) http://spyder.datacolor.com/portfolio-view/spyder5express/
[20:47] <diplo> What do you normally use daftykins ?
[20:47] <diplo> Seem quite different kit
[20:47] <daftykins> diplo: it's probably been 8 years since i did one so been a long time now, literally just the replacement bolts - depends on your extended error code though
[20:49] <diplo> oh right :) will take a good read thanks
[20:49] <diplo> thanks for the input / help
[20:49] <daftykins> np!
[20:49] <daftykins> fixing stuff is ace
[20:50] <diplo> That's what I want to get back into, trying to get myself busier and have a project
[20:50] <diplo> I have 4 phones, a kindle with a broken screen to fix and this home auto stuff
[20:52] <daftykins> :D
[20:52] <daftykins> i've been asked to do an iPhone 6s screen, should be fun
[20:55]  * penguin42 hasn't tried doing any phone stuff
[20:59] <daftykins> it's only basic item swaps really that i've done, nothing special other than having the patience to do it
[21:00] <penguin42> daftykins: A bunch of us bought a box of broken Apple Newton's about 20 years ago and made working ones and sold them on
[21:00] <daftykins> this iPhone one will require the existing home button, front facing camera and earpiece be swapped over though
[21:00] <penguin42> daftykins: Just doing things like swapping working boards and working displays
[21:00] <daftykins> :D nice, mmm
[21:01] <penguin42> oh and finding the bug that meant that they would play dead unless you removed the lithium for a few minutes and then they'd suddenly spring back to life
[21:03] <daftykins> i do wonder if it'd be worth buying broken devices on ebay and fixing them up for resale
[21:03] <daftykins> but it's quite the risk
[21:04] <penguin42> in this case it was a local dealer who was selling a batch of 2nd hand ones and we asked how many broken ones they had
[22:58] <penguin42> g+ has just offered me someone's 'Walk the north of England' collection; perhaps that should be swim
[23:04] <daftykins> :S
[23:48] <zmoylan-pi> the clue is in your nick... :-)
[23:50] <daftykins> 42!
[23:52] <penguin42> well if you can swim the length of Northern England and still know where your towel is