[00:00] <rvgate> EriC^^, no... because on IDE mode, it didnt boot the live cd... it only worked when i changed mode to ahci
[00:00] <EriC^^> rvgate: ok, i guess you could try the instructions in the link eikon81g gave you
[00:02] <EriC^^> !ops | rever spamming in pm
[00:02] <eikon81g> EriC^^, you are a beast, I learned alot from that rundown you did. Good stuff man
[00:03] <aotea> So, having survived with no crash for just about two hours now on Nouveau I guess I can conclude my Nvidia drivers had issues on my machine jumping off the bus all the time :P Anyone else gotten xorg restarts at random intervals, Ubuntu 15.10 Nvidia 340 & 352 drivers?
[00:06] <eikon81g> ikonia, sorry we got a little out of the topic but it was strictly related to a dualboot issue.
[00:06] <ikonia> no big deal
[00:06] <ikonia> don't sweat it
[00:06] <OneM_Industries> Hey, can anyone recommend a good getting started with Linux guide?
[00:07] <EriC^^> !manual | OneM_Industries this is nice
[00:07] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: https://help.ubuntu.com
[00:08] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Also : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[00:09] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[00:09] <rvgate> eikon81g, EriC^^, followed these instructions provided by eikon81g: http://www.tenforums.com/performance-maintenance/15006-attn-ssd-owners-enabling-ahci-mode-after-windows-10-installation.html, now on AHCI mode, windows booted, ubuntu booted... thanks a lot guys (or girls) :D
[00:10] <rvgate> !cookie | eikon81g
[00:10] <rvgate> !cookie | EriC^^
[00:10] <iluminati> when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same
[00:10] <EriC^^> ty, good job eikon81g
[00:10] <eikon81g> lol, yall have a great night. learned alot, thank you both as well. i'll pop in later!! Thanks EriC^^
[00:11] <EriC^^> you too
[00:12] <iluminati> when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same
[00:12] <eikon81g> !pulseaudi
[00:12] <eikon81g> !pulseaudio
[00:13] <eikon81g> iluminati, get the pulseaudio bluetooth module
[00:15] <basttrax> Hey all
[00:18] <eikon81g> iluminati, apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-bluetooth < i think
[00:19] <iluminati> eikon81g, keep the same connect and disconnect
[00:21] <eikon81g> iluminati, sudo service bluetooth restart
[00:22] <eikon81g> I had a similar issue and ran it down for a few days I believe this is what ended up resolving it..
[00:22] <eikon81g> (installing the pulseaudio bluetooth module)
[00:23] <basttrax> Anyone floating around?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> basttrax: I be, What is the issue ?
[00:24] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! Is there a way to see what frequencies my wifi dongle can connect to? I have a dual-band wifi set up, and a tablet can connect to 5GHrz, but I'm having a hard time getting my computer to connect
[00:24] <basttrax> Bashing-om: Wanted to set up a Ubuntu server, was wondering if anyone had any experience, or recommendations on what vendors has the best Ubuntu (or Linux in general)
[00:25] <basttrax> Ie, Lenovo or HP or Dell etc.
[00:25] <ikonia> what vendors ?
[00:25] <ikonia> ubuntu is the vendor
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> econdudeawesome  in a terminal, type   iwlist
[00:25] <ikonia> basttrax: they are just hardwware providers
[00:25] <basttrax> ikonia: hardware providers,
[00:25] <ikonia> what about them ?
[00:25] <ikonia> sorry - I'm not getting what you're asking
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> MonkeyDust: Very nice! All in the 2.4 range unfortunately. Any way to modify that, or is them the bricks?
[00:26] <eikon81g> econdudeawesome, if the card you are using now is not an AC card then you wont beable to see the 5ghz SSID
[00:26] <Welington> Algum brasileiro?
[00:26] <MonkeyDust> !br
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: How do I check that? (What is an AC card?)
[00:27] <kc8pnd> What are some mp3/media players out there?
[00:27] <MonkeyDust> !player | kc8pnd
[00:27] <eikon81g> well you pobably have a wireless g or wireless N card so this card is not capable or using that frequency.. google the model number of that card and you will probably find that it is not going to work on the 5ghz frequency
[00:28] <iluminati> eikon81g, keep the same connect and disconnect
[00:29] <eikon81g> iluminati, https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp
[00:30] <eikon81g> there are some other applications that you could install to see if your bluetooth adapter is more friendly with them
[00:30] <iluminati> eikon81g, tnx i will try
[00:30] <eikon81g> econdudeawesome, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac
[00:30] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: ah, got it. Huh, didn't realize that was a limitation for n.
[00:30] <eikon81g> yea, that band is specific to AC cards
[00:30]  * ObrienDave waves to all from out of the marshes of Denver ;P
[00:31] <someuser> Hello everyone! Just wanted to ask if I'm searching for the wrong terms with this problem: I've got an T430s; the volume up/down/mute keys as well as the print key do not work; however when in Preferences->Keyboard->Shortcuts I can assign them and they are assigned correctly; When I use acpi_listen I also see the correct keycodes and the translation to the meaning; when I assign other combinations to the shortcut it works (like ctrl+a
[00:31] <someuser> I couldn't find a topic in the forum that matches my problem. Do you know it?
[00:31] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: ac is the next iteration post n?
[00:31] <econdudeawesome> (havent checked link yet)
[00:32] <eikon81g> right
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: got it
[00:33] <eikon81g> someuser, that would be related to the thinkvantage keys they may need something for you to use them.. you could try to bind the vol up and vol dn to diff keys on your kb if you cant get those working
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: would you have any recommendations on utilities/resources to monitor traffic/personal cyber security? Still learning about a lot of this stuff.
[00:34] <someuser> yeah that's what I did with volume up/down/mute, but now I discovered that it's the same with the PRINT key and that is really annoying
[00:35] <eikon81g> honestly not really, I am a newb.. If you were worried about it I would consider a vpn.. I use one for filesharing
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: I'm more wanting to make sure I'm not contributing to a botnet accidentally :D Keep everything updated, of course, but still I feel like its a good thing to monitor
[00:36] <eikon81g> yea, that is a good question I am just not able to answer it
[00:37] <teward> what replaced gksudo, was it pkexec or something...?
[00:37] <EriC^^> econdudeawesome: change the port that ssh uses, don't permit root access, use a strong password or pubkey authentication, etc.
[00:37] <teward> (i mean as a default/standard)
[00:37] <teward> (in the latest release)
[00:37] <econdudeawesome> EriC^^: good advice, all. If I'm not running an ssh-server, is that still a concern?
[00:37] <someuser> eikon81g, do you have an idea for good searching terms? the strange thing is that the keys show up correctly in the shortcut configuration, when I assign them but do not work afterwards..
[00:37] <EriC^^> econdudeawesome: how do you login to your server?
[00:37] <EriC^^> maybe use 2FA
[00:38] <will> I need to recover some files from an inaccesable ubuntu 14.04 installation
[00:38] <Bashing-om> teward: Correct - pkexec .
[00:38] <teward> Bashing-om: thanks, I wasn't sure if it was pkexec or pk-exec, or what :)
[00:38] <teward> Bashing-om: thanks for the confirm.
[00:38] <EriC^^> will: boot a live usb
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> EriC^^: I dont log in to a server, just checking home network stuff
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> or is OpenSSH both server and client?
[00:39] <eikon81g> like a traffic monitor is what you are looking for I think
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: bingo
[00:39] <eikon81g> I'm not sure which one is good or how to use any of them I am sure they are out there though.. the pros may have a lead for you
[00:40] <Bashing-om> teward: One has to configure an application to authorize elevated privileges : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2303768 <- how to / why .
[00:40] <teward> Bashing-om: ahhh, so it doesn't work with everything
[00:41] <teward> Bashing-om: but most of the things that typically would need 'sudo' privileges, would probably have a repository, for the most common things in the repo?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> teward: Nope, the administrator has to set up access .
[00:41] <teward> (with policies being capable of being written for others, by sysadmins)
[00:41] <teward> :/
[00:41] <teward> okay, that's annoying...ish...
[00:41] <will> I did the live cd. (it was an encrypted disk and asked for the passphrase. This worked and the bad disk was visible. when i opend it and found the needed directory i did not have permission to use it. I assume i needed to supply my old user password. I don tkow how to do this
[00:42] <EriC^^> will: just use sudo on the live usb to copy them
[00:42] <Bashing-om> teward: Security, security and more security :)
[00:42] <teward> makes sense
[00:42] <will> can you give details of that for a noob?
[00:43] <EriC^^> sudo cp -r /mnt/path/to/files /path/to/destination
[00:43] <teward> Bashing-om: so if someone had to run gedit or such as superuser, and typically would gksudo, would there be a policy in polkit, or would an administrator need to configure a policy for it?  (trying to gauge the defaults currently)
[00:44] <EriC^^> will: you can launch the file manager with privileges too, sudo nautilus from the live usb, ( gksu nautilus in an actual install )
[00:44] <will> ok but Im not sure of the path to files (or the path to destination)
[00:44] <Bashing-om> teward: As I understand it, it is one time pain to set it up ; http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/how-to-run-gedit-and-nautilus-as-root.html .
[00:45] <EriC^^> will: use sudo nautilus , then copy and paste as usual
[00:46] <Bashing-om> teward: " /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/com.ubuntu.gedit.policy " as per : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225832 .
[00:46] <will> I did a new actual install. when i get to the old encrpted i see it with a lock but when i supply the passphrase the icon dissapearrs and i don know how to find the files
[00:46] <teward> Bashing-om: OK, i'll look there, thanks for the tips and starting point to look at :)
[00:47] <will> er ic wher do i invoke sudo nautilus ( from the live cd or the new ubuntu install)
[00:47] <Bashing-om> teward: Hey .. I too will have to learn .. maybe a day when gksu is no more . I do want to be prepared .
[00:48] <teward> heh
[00:48] <EriC^^> will: use gksu nautilus
[00:49] <will> Eric do I do that from xterm on the live cd?
[00:49] <EriC^^> will: are you in the ubuntu install right now?
[00:50] <will> yes
[00:50] <EriC^^> ok, so you had an encrypted install before? or an encrypted home dir?
[00:50] <will> encrypred install
[00:51] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[00:51] <Guest96372> What is going wrong, if my PRINT key only works in combination with the super (w!ndows) key (I'm on a laptop)?
[00:52] <will> ok do i do that in the xterm window? // sorry to be a windows idiot
[00:52] <teward> Bashing-om: feel free to share things you learn as you learn :)
[00:52] <EriC^^> yes, press ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
[00:53] <Bashing-om> teward: Ouch ... I look to you and others to show me the way .
[00:55] <will> Eric  ok I got a bunch of stuff ending with a line saying error unrecogniized disk label
[00:56] <will> sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[00:56] <EriC^^> hmm
[00:57] <will> Do you think I should attempt the nautils thing from a live cd?
[00:57] <eikon81g> is the drive mounted?
[00:58] <EriC^^> no it's ok
[00:58] <will> I'm in the new install the icon list no longer shows the locked drive after i entered the passphrase
[00:59] <eikon81g> my bad I was just scanning what yall were working on.. I spoke out of turn, I thought you were on a live cd already
[00:59] <EriC^^> will: type sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9 , paste the link here
[00:59] <will> type sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9
[01:00] <EriC^^> will: sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9
[01:00] <EriC^^> in the terminal
[01:00] <teward> Bashing-om: hey, I use the CLI for most stuff ;)
[01:00] <ObrienDave> in a terminal :)
[01:02] <will> I did that and nothing appeared to happen
[01:05] <Bashing-om> teward: Ditto, me too , I came up before there was a GUI .. I am never as comfortable with the GUI as I am in terminal .
[01:06] <econdudeawesome> Bashing-om: I feel the same nowadays, though I started with the GUI. I can't tell what's going on in the backend some of the time
[01:08] <EriC^^> will: try sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:09] <will> Eric same result . I just get the prompt back
[01:09] <will> cd ..
[01:11] <Koyaanis> root@kimx1:~# nano /etc/sudoers
[01:11] <Koyaanis> -bash: nano: command not found
[01:11] <Koyaanis> root@kimx1:~# apt-get install nano
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Reading package lists... Done
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Building dependency tree
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Reading state information... Done
[01:11] <EriC^^> will: odd
[01:11] <EriC^^> it's working here
[01:12] <EriC^^> will: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:12] <EriC^^> Koyaanis: use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers
[01:13] <EriC^^> also paste the error in paste.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <will> ... pastbinit  Right?   I get an error
[01:18] <EriC^^> pastebinit
[01:18] <will> Eric   i get an error commandline option 'g' from -get is not known
[01:20] <EriC^^> apt and -get are 1 word
[01:20] <EriC^^> no space between them
[01:22] <spectre> hello guys
[01:23] <will> Eric ok got      Setting up pastebinit 1.4-3 ...
[01:24] <will> where do I locate pastebinit ?
[01:24] <EriC^^> will: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[01:25] <EriC^^> you can pipe commands to it
[01:26] <will> Eric  Hmm           i just get the command prompt back
[01:27] <EriC^^> no link?
[01:27] <will> nope .  Ityped somthing while bastebinit was insalling  maybe i screwed it up
[01:28] <EriC^^> will: type alias pasteit='curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us'
[01:28] <EriC^^> alias pasteit='curl.........'
[01:28] <tgm4883> will: out of curiosity, do you get anything if you just type "sudo blkid"
[01:28] <EriC^^> then try sudo blkid | pasteit  , it's not your fault i think something odd is going on
[01:29] <will> tgm4883    yes   a lot of stuff
[01:29] <tgm4883> will:
[01:29] <tgm4883> will: ok, how about 'echo hello | pastebinit'
[01:30] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l didn't work either, nor is the server even responding to him
[01:30] <tgm4883> EriC^^: is this a server or something?
[01:31] <EriC^^> what is?
[01:31] <tgm4883> I'm just seeing this, haven't read backlog other than you guys trying to get this one command's output for the last half hour
[01:31] <EriC^^> termbin should say error connecting or so
[01:31] <EriC^^> use netcat etc
[01:31] <EriC^^> maybe he has a firewall or something?
[01:31] <tgm4883> EriC^^: I'm not sure what exactly we're trying to accomplish here. Can he not just copy and paste?
[01:32] <EriC^^> tgm4883: well yeah, we tried termbin and pastebinit, not working
[01:32] <EriC^^> if sprunge works great if not just copy paste away :)
[01:33] <EriC^^> will: alias pasteit='curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us'
[01:33] <EriC^^> will: then sudo blkid | pasteit
[01:34] <tgm4883> EriC^^: possibly, but generally users either A) know if they have a firewall that is blocking outbound connections (since they usually aren't setup that way by default) or B) they are on a network that they shouldn't be installing a Ubuntu computer on
[01:36] <will> Eric  sudo blkid : pasteit  asked for my password then wen back to command prompt
[01:36] <eikon81g> This is dumb, I know.. I am having trouble with installing filezilla
[01:36] <tgm4883> will: are you doing this command on the local computer?
[01:36] <EriC^^> will: oh, it's | not :
[01:37] <EriC^^> that'd be the problem
[01:37] <will> Sorry for wasting time but being a windows weinie I can't type :)
[01:37] <eikon81g> I have tried adding the PPA and using apt-get update and then apt-get install and it keeps telling me it's not found
[01:37] <tgm4883> eikon81g: what PPA
[01:37] <eikon81g> there was 2 or 3 I added
[01:37] <eikon81g> 1 sec
[01:37]  * tgm4883 facepalm
[01:38] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa
[01:38] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa2
[01:38] <eikon81g> both of those..
[01:38] <tgm4883> eikon81g: what's wrong with the filezilla in the repos?
[01:38] <eikon81g> and then I update and try to install and I get an error
[01:38] <eikon81g> ?
[01:38] <tgm4883> eikon81g: filezilla is in the official ubuntu repositories
[01:39] <tgm4883> eikon81g: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=filezilla&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[01:39] <eikon81g> Well when I use the software store it says "Available from the universe source"
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !info filezilla
[01:39] <tgm4883> eikon81g: universe is an official ubuntu repo
[01:40] <eikon81g> yea, but instead of getting a button for install it says "use this source" I hit that it prompts me for my pw and does nothing
[01:40] <eikon81g> let me grab one off the link you posted 1 sec
[01:41] <Bashing-om> eikon81g: Is the universe repo enabled ?
[01:41] <will> I'm in xterm on a fresh install I tried sudo blkid | pasteit and got command not found
[01:41] <tgm4883> eikon81g: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit'
[01:42] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14226085/
[01:42] <will> Im using | now not :
[01:43] <OerHeks> !utopic
[01:43] <will> Eric thanks for your help I feel guilty about wasting your time
[01:43] <william_doe> How bad of an idea is it to delete the Nouveau display driver?  I am having trouble getting ubuntu to keep using nvidia drivers for some reason heh.
[01:44] <tgm4883> will: I'm off to dinner, but I'd do 'sudo blkid' then copy and paste that into pastebin.com
[01:45] <will> tgm4883   tnx I;ll try that
[01:46] <juan6519> buenas noche nesecito ayuda
[01:46] <juan6519>  para configurar firefox no puedo ver videos en la web
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !es | juan6519
[01:48] <juan6519> need help cansee videos on my firefox can any one help thank
[01:48] <user_938> hi
[01:49] <juan6519> hi
[01:49] <MrXXIV> Seems other channels are inactive, but anyways, anyone know about decrypting something MySQL where "NA" becomes X'6E61' in an SQL export?
[01:49] <MrXXIV> It seems no one, in the sql channels know
[01:49] <alex> whatthe fck
[01:54] <juan6519> join ubuntu es
[02:02] <MrXXIV> lmao
[02:02] <stuxnet> ?
[02:21] <johnathan> hi
[02:21] <william_doe> guys i'm ripping my hair out here.  Any idea how to get my system to stop using my intelhd graphics and use the nvidia card?
[02:21] <johnathan> nope
[02:22] <johnathan> i need to know how to install HP Envy Wifi card Drivers into Ubuntu Home
[02:25] <owen1> how to upgrade my python to anything above 2.7.9+? i am on 14.04
[02:25] <johnathan> hello?
[02:25] <mgolisch> owen1: is there a newer 2.7.x version that 2.7.9 ?
[02:27] <owen1> mgolisch: oh. i don't know. i meant 2.7.9 or above
[02:27] <owen1> whatever is the easiest
[02:27] <mgolisch> why do you need that?
[02:27] <RNeville> Hello, do I need to make a rescue disk for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[02:28] <mgolisch> owen1: i mean do you have any specific need for a newer python version? also if you want python3 you can just install the python3 package
[02:28] <owen1> mgolisch: let's encrypt
[02:28] <owen1> it's not working on 2.7.5
[02:29] <owen1> i mean 2.7.6
[02:29] <owen1> i am talking to them on #letsencrypt since i got https://urllib3.readthedocs.org/en/latest/security.html#insecureplatformwarning
[02:30] <owen1> maybe wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.9/Python-2.7.9.tgz ?
[02:30] <owen1> ./configure && make && sudo make install +
[02:30] <owen1> ?
[02:30] <ikonia> certainly not
[02:30] <ikonia> owen1: no never
[02:30] <ikonia> isn't there a python3 package for 14.04
[02:30] <owen1> ikonia: oh. ok (:
[02:30] <ikonia> !info python3 trusty
[02:30] <ikonia> there you go
[02:30] <ikonia> python3 for 14.04
[02:31] <ikonia> job done
[02:31] <ikonia> install the python3 package
[02:31] <owen1> ikonia: awosome! apt-get install python3
[02:31] <ikonia> pretty sure mgolisch suggested that earlier
[02:31] <owen1> python3 is already the newest version.
[02:31] <owen1> wtf
[02:31] <ikonia> don't swear
[02:32] <owen1> sorry!
[02:32] <ikonia> launch the python3 binary then
[02:32] <owen1> how to remove the old python
[02:32] <ikonia> do not remove
[02:32] <ikonia> they co-exist
[02:32] <owen1> i am running letsencrypt. it's a bash script
[02:32] <ikonia> so ?
[02:32] <owen1> i need to set my default python maybe
[02:32] <owen1> i need to tell that script to use python3
[02:32] <ikonia> use the alternatives package, or update the script with a variable for python
[02:33] <owen1> i am not sure what does 'use the alternatives package'. i'll look at the script...):
[02:33] <ikonia> set the default with update-alternatives
[02:34] <ikonia> if you look at python binary, it will probably be a symlink to python2.7 binary
[02:34] <owen1> ikonia: oh. 'sudo update-alternatives' ?
[02:34] <ikonia> the alternatives package changes that link to python3
[02:34] <ikonia> thats one way
[02:34] <owen1> perfect
[02:34] <ikonia> the shell script will probably have a varabile in it for what python binary to use
[02:34] <ikonia> I'd suggest setting that if it exists rather than changing the default on the system
[02:35] <owen1> ikonia: ok. looking..
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> owen1: there's also #letsencrypt , the default client worked on a relatively clean 15.10 for me, it pulls in a bunch of packages on its own.
[02:37] <owen1> SchrodingersScat: i am talking to them as well
[02:37] <owen1> they told me to come here...
[02:38] <owen1> it feels like a soccer game. but i am the ball.
[02:39] <mgolisch> is this realy a error?
[02:40] <owen1> that's the error: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/insecureplatformwarning-on-ubuntu-14-04-w-python-2-7-6/2871/3
[02:41] <mgolisch> https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/insecureplatformwarning-on-ubuntu-14-04-w-python-2-7-6/2871   << suggest changing the script to upgrade some stuff in the virtualenv its installed into
[02:41] <owen1> mgolisch: yeah. i tried those changes. still got a security error
[02:47] <mgolisch> you probably did something wrong
[02:48] <mgolisch> and as letsencrypt doesnt support python3 installing that wont help you at all
[02:50] <Ca11um> Why does Ubuntu (and Linux in general) not create open source projects to compete against Windows' unique features, such as Active Directory (and more specifically, Group Policy)?
[02:51] <Ca11um> I know something like that is a MAJOR project, but there doesn't seem to be anything whatsoever out there that even attempts it
[02:51] <mgolisch> ad is basicaly ldap+kerberos
[02:51] <mgolisch> the same is available on linux
[02:52] <Ca11um> I know there's also LDAP on Linux, but it's absolutely nothing like the Windows' solution
[02:52] <mgolisch> what makes microsofts stuff better is that all their software is integrated perfectly with that
[02:52] <Ca11um> Why does nobody create a GitHub project to make a comprehensive LDAP system with integrated policy management
[02:52] <mgolisch> which is hard to pull up if not everything is made by the same company
[02:53] <mgolisch> Ca11um: the next thing is for most group policy stuff it works that way: the components check special policy regsitry settings and change behavior based on that, so group policy basicaly just sets those settings in the compuiters registry
[02:53] <Ca11um> I know especially in schools the ability to completely lock down a workstation is one of the biggest concerns. So the fact Linux can't do that kind of blows its potential in the education sector.
[02:53] <mgolisch> that again only works as microsoft designed all components to support that
[02:53] <tgm4883> group policy is a pile of junk
[02:53] <mgolisch> in the linux eco system all stuff is developed by different parties which makes all that quite hard
[02:54] <mgolisch> tgm4883: no its not
[02:55] <tgm4883> mgolisch: yea, it really is. I suppose you could argue that it has it's good points, but unless you're an MCSE it's difficult to get it to work how you think it should work
[02:55] <Ca11um> Group Policy is easy as anything to use
[02:55] <xangua> !ot
[02:55] <mgolisch> no not realy, and even if its difficult thats better than having no such controls at all
[02:56] <Ca11um> We looked at using Linux at work (a secondary school), and ignoring the issue of software compatability, the thing that made us decide to never switch to Linux is the fact that students could login and do anything they desired
[02:56] <tgm4883> xangua is right, if we want to continue discussing this, we should use #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <Ca11um> There's nothing at all to limit access, which is essential for certain environments
[02:56] <tgm4883> lol
[02:59] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am having an issue burning an ISO to a DVD/CD. All DVDs and CDs are being seen as 2KB block devices, and I am unable to load the ISO to that..
[03:02] <OneM_Industries> Any ideas why Ubuntu would only see 2KB of a 700MB CD?
[03:02] <redlux> hello ubuntu
[03:03] <basttrax> redlux: Hello :)
[03:04] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: where does it show that?
[03:04] <redlux> sorry im kind of new may u point me in the direction i can ask a question bout problem im having
[03:04] <basttrax> redlux: Go ahead, I'm sure someone will jump in
[03:05] <OneM_Industries> mgolisch: Under disks.
[03:05] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: also what program do you use to burn the cd?
[03:05] <redlux> im burning iso in ubuntu 15.04 on the stock tools "disks" and "startup disk" and for some reaoson i go to dual boot and nothing
[03:05] <OneM_Industries> I was attempting to use the "Restore Image" feature in disks or "Disk image writer".
[03:06] <mgolisch> try using a cd burning program such as brasero or k3b
[03:06] <redlux> ok and what about formatting
[03:07] <basttrax> OneM_Industries: The 2kb is probably just the blank cd showing up, definately use k3b or something
[03:07] <redlux> and i know i've done it and it worked fine
[03:07] <satrah> hi all k3b is a better choice than brasero
[03:07] <mgolisch> yeah but it pulls in loads of kde stuff
[03:07] <tgm4883> Meh, I'd just use brasero
[03:07] <redlux> and i even dual booted in the distro to make sure it still worked and it did fine
[03:07] <ZcY> how to use irc for seding email?
[03:08] <redlux> like one i had from earlier
[03:08] <ZcY> send email
[03:08] <OneM_Industries> The odd thing is, it was working fine a couple days ago.
[03:08] <tgm4883> well, actually I would just use a USB, but i'd use brasero over k3b unless I was using a bunch of other kde software
[03:09] <redlux> ya im so sorry i have company lol am multi tasking ive tried on usb and cd actually and nothing
[03:09] <OneM_Industries> The box I am installing on is so old that it does not support USB boot.
[03:09] <redlux> so will try brasero right now
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> redlux: can you define 'tried dualbooting and nothing'?
[03:10] <ZcY> redlux can you send email by irc？
[03:10] <OneM_Industries> Heck, this thing is so old, you can see marks from where the dinosaurs were assembling it.
[03:10] <vm> hi
[03:10] <OneM_Industries> ZcY: That sounds like a question for google, not us. :)
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: try 'plop boot manager on cd' and force the old machine to load up usb
[03:10] <ZcY> thanks
[03:11] <OneM_Industries> As I said, it is too old to do that. It is a really, really old machine.
[03:11] <redlux> ok of course... i get to grub and i see the usb stick click and then it goes to  a lower pixel black screen with one cursor...(sorry again i shouldve explained better)
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: does it have a cd?
[03:11] <OneM_Industries> Yes, amazingly.
[03:11] <ZcY> it was a little hard to use irc by phone for me
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: then load plop boot manager from cd, so you can force usb to boot
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you see the usb stick in grub?
[03:13] <redlux> yes the name of it shows up
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you mean you see the usb stick in the bootup of your pc?
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> redlux: or you trying iso from grub install?
[03:15] <redlux> yes the name Verbatim CLIP etc....
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> redlux: and the installed Os is what?
[03:16] <redlux> Suse, kali i've been just experimenting with these
[03:17] <redlux> i have a Full ubuntu system 15.04
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> redlux: uefi system?
[03:19] <redlux> one sec sorry,,,
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> redlux: what was default Os that came on your pc?
[03:20] <redlux> Ubuntu
[03:20] <redlux> 15.04
[03:20] <redlux> open source parts and all
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you bought a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled?
[03:20] <redlux> yes
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> redlux: wich brand please
[03:21] <redlux> system76
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> redlux: ok good, check your bios settings if its uefi
[03:22] <redlux> k thanks alot one sec
[03:26] <redlux> bios
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> redlux: not uefi?
[03:27] <redlux> $ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[03:27] <redlux> BIOS
[03:27] <redlux> is that good or bad?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i think its uefi, can you see stuff like legacy/uefi? fastboot, secureboot?
[03:29] <Spider> hello world
[03:29] <redlux> lotuspsychje :ummm i kinda learning as i go here...
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Spider: welcome, what can we do for you?
[03:29] <redlux> hmmm....
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i would advise to test other Os live or in virtualbox from your ubuntu 15.04
[03:30] <redlux> i've been to i did
[03:30] <redlux> i tried tails
[03:30] <redlux> it wokred fine
[03:30] <Spider> well i was just passing through i finally have linux on my ipad
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> redlux: dualbooting uefi is bit fiddling
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> Spider: you installed ubuntu on an ipad?
[03:31] <Spider> fun times
[03:31] <redlux> could it be that i ran some stupid commands in terminal at some point and should look into fixing that (thats all i can think of i know thats a REally BAD IDEA)
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i dont know what you did before mate, but if have not much experience i wouldt reccomend dualboot on uefi
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> redlux: try other distro's in livemode or virtualbox instead
[03:33] <Guest48203> is there a Windows app that can properly open leafpad files that is used on Lubuntu?
[03:33] <redlux> hmm ok fair enough thanks
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> redlux: there are also ways to install other distro persistent on an usb, maybe something more for you?
[03:34] <Spider> aren't leafpad files .txt?
[03:34] <redlux> ok i'm very open to hear any suggestions
[03:34] <redlux> and this is muchly appreciated i akready got lots of valuable information sir
[03:35] <redlux> i'm new to linux
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> redlux: how about you first try other distro's in livemode :p would be great start
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !manual | redlux explore here
[03:35] <Spider> we were all new at one time
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest48203: for windows questions ask in ##windows please
[03:36] <redlux> hah ya thx i'm just glad im here now better late than never is what i keep telling myself
[03:37] <Spider> linux is great i use it for everything
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> redlux: ubuntu is very nice on a machine, so i would advise to let it as main Os on your expensive machine :p
[03:37] <Guest48203> lotuspsychje, leafpad is a linux only software that ships on a Ubuntu variant
[03:37] <redlux> for sure i'm just experimenting with some things thats all
[03:38] <Spider> redlux, once you get familiar with linux you will unlock its true potential it just takes time
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest48203: yes, and you asking for a windows app, ask in ##windows please
[03:38] <Guest48203> lotuspsychje, why is lUbuntu using leafpad, if its default files aren't even compaitable anywhere else?
[03:39] <redlux> not trying to do any harm i like your suggestions tho
[03:39] <Guest48203> it is basically using propriety closed source software
[03:39] <redlux> spider, thank you
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you can use this channel for all ubuntu related questions, for more chitchat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <mgolisch> is this a joke? leafpad is a texteditor?
[03:40] <mgolisch> tried notepad.exe? iam sure it can open text files
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> mgolisch: lets not support windows here please
[03:41] <Guest48203> mgolisch,  has that worked for you?
[03:41] <winsoff> I want to install ubuntu on a Macbook 2,1, but the bastard is giving me a goofy "CHOOSE BOOT OPTION" screen that does not let me input anything.  The EFI is apparently 32 bits, but the processor is 64 bits, so I want to put the 64-bit install on there. Is that okay?  How do I burn a disk to not have more than one boot option, so I can skip that screen?
[03:41] <mgolisch> Guest48203: no idea i dont use leafpad, but text files should be openable in any text editor
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !mac | winsoff
[03:42] <winsoff> Cool!
[03:42] <winsoff> Thanks, comrade.
[03:42] <Guest48203> it doesn't open the files properly, formating outputs all the words on one line with no spaces
[03:43] <ZcY> MIRC registration need to spend money?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !efi > winsoff read this also perhaps
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> ZcY: please only ubuntu questions here
[03:43] <ZcY> sorry
[03:44] <ZcY> I am a rookie
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ZcY
[03:45] <redlux> lotuspsychje thx very much will be sticking around must retain a greater amount of knowledge
[03:45] <Spider> does anyone know how to get tightvncserver to start on boot?
[03:45] <redlux> have a philosophy read on UNIX that i'm just finishing
[03:45] <Spider> and will that let me see the login screen?
[03:45] <cage_raphel> hello!! i am getting the following error msg when i run sudo apt-get upgrade .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227227/
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Spider: i wouldnt reccomend vnc mate, very dangerous for use
[03:46] <Spider> lotuspsychje, why not?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: have you installed programs with ppa's of any kind?
[03:46] <Lurchy> redlux...splashtop is a good alternative
[03:46] <ZcY> Is there a discussion about the application experience of the Ubuntu system on the mobile phone？
[03:46] <redlux> next is on to UNIX for dummies i feel like then i'll learn the required  technicals
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !touch | ZcY
[03:47] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, i dont think so mate.. i am not sure though. is there a way to check ?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: yes in your sources
[03:47] <Lurchy> err spider
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !sources | cage_raphel
[03:47] <ZcY> thanks
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> redlux: please only use this channel for main ubuntu questions
[03:48] <Spider> i know its unencrypted and all but is it that big of a deal?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Spider: vnc is the most exploited software on earth, keep away from it :p
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Spider: openssh to the rescue
[03:49] <Spider> lotuspsychje, can i use x with openssh?
[03:49] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, under system settings, software and updates, all the four options are checked. is that what you mean ?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Spider: i think the #openssh guys can help with X yes
[03:49] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: What results ' sudo apt ipdate ; sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ?
[03:50] <Spider> lotuspsychje, cool thanks
[03:50] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I have a puzzler for you guys. I have a Compaq Presario SR1000 that I am attempting to use the SATA ports on with Lubuntu, but it cannot see the attached drives. Any ideas on what chipset/driver I would need?
[03:50] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: sudo apt update **
[03:51] <OneM_Industries> Link to the specs: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq-presario-sr1000/specs/
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: lubuntu doesnt see the hd in partitioning setup?
[03:52] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, have you played around with the sata settings in the bios?
[03:52] <mgolisch> is the port enabled at all?
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> No, it does not see the HDD.
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> I think so, let me check..
[03:53] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, this is the output.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227276/
[03:53] <Spider> lotuspsychje, so you wouldnt even use it for home media server use?
[03:53] <Spider> vnc?
[03:53] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, I've spent ages figuring out why a drive won't appear only to find it's not even in the bios and the sata port has crapped out on me.
[03:53] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Spider: take the advise mate, never use vnc
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Spider: if a machine is connected the the internet and runs vnc on it, youl get hacked in few hours
[03:55] <Spider> hacked how exactly?
[03:55] <redlux> looks damn scary  boys
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !language | redlux only ubuntu questions please
[03:55] <Lurchy> Spider...VNC is not very secure
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Spider: lets not discuss that here ok, find other ways openssh,..
[03:57] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Looks like there is a conflict with " /usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service " .. lemme see what I can learn .
[03:57] <Spider> Lurchy, could you possibly explain why?
[03:57] <OneM_Industries> Bother. The BIOS is not seeing the SATA drive. Shoot.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Spider: always be carefull with remote viewing software, best to see the security part right away
[03:57] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, thank u mate
[03:57] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, :/
[03:57] <OneM_Industries> :/ indeed.
[03:57] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: but you enabled the port?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Spider: because malicious users scan the whole net for 24/7 remote software to take over your pc
[03:58] <OneM_Industries> I can't even find the option to enable the thing.
[03:58] <Spider> port scanning is nothing new
[03:58] <Spider> masscan anyone?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Spider: if you gonna run 24/7 services of any kind, inform yourself on the security part also
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Spider: now lets focus on the ubuntu support please
[03:59] <Spider> i am using ubuntu for all of this
[04:00] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Looks to me you have to make a choice . see: ' apt-cache show kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' . Is this not the same function as " google-im.service " ??
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: can you tell us if you replaced the hd, what are you trying to do?
[04:01] <Spider> i just want to have remote access to my media server and be able to do it graphically
[04:01] <OneM_Industries> I was trying to get this thing up and running with LUbuntu for Grandma, but it looks like that is a no go.
[04:01] <Spider> and be as secure as possible
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: did you place a new sata hd inside?
[04:02] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, mate.. i have no clue what u r talking about.. i am a rookie.. sorry .. i am just learning bro.. could u pls break that down for m ?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> Spider: again mate, GUI remote viewers have to be cared off with caution
[04:03] <OneM_Industries> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: what kind of hd did you place in it?
[04:03] <OneM_Industries> A 80GB Hitachi SATA drive.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: did you see bios option IDE to AHCI?
[04:04] <OneM_Industries> No.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: could you doublecheck please
[04:04] <Spider> OneM_Industries, did you format the drives before you installed them?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: also check if your new hd shows up in the bios
[04:05] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, do u mean i need to remove google-im.service ?
[04:05] <OneM_Industries> I doublechecked, no AHCI, and it is not showing up in the bios.
[04:05] <OneM_Industries> Also, this is a known good drive.
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: if bios doesnt show, lubuntu can see it neither
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> cant
[04:06] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: You have a internet messaging application already installed " google-im.service ' that I "think" os in direct conflict with " kde-config-telepathy-accounts " . I do suggest that you choose the one you want to use and remove the other (??) . What now returns ' apt-cache policy kde-config-telepathy-accounts ; apt-cache policy google-im.service ' ?
[04:06] <OneM_Industries> Yeah. I am trying to figure out how to get the BIOS to see the HDD.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: talk to the ##hardware guys, why
[04:06] <OneM_Industries> What?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: this is a hardware question mate, ask in ##hardware please
[04:07] <OneM_Industries> I am.
[04:08] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227371/
[04:11] <mgolisch> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=google-im.service&mode=exactfilename&suite=wily&arch=any
[04:12] <mgolisch> this shows that this file is contained in those two packages
[04:12] <mgolisch> you can install only one of them
[04:14] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sorry, the Google package is " account-plugin-google " . What returns ' apt-cache policy account-plugin-google ' ?
[04:15] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, krishnaroona@krishnaroona:~$ sudo apt-cache policy account-plugin-google
[04:15] <cage_raphel> account-plugin-google:
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Installed: 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Candidate: 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Version table:
[04:15] <cage_raphel>  *** 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1 0
[04:17] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, this is the output  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227426/
[04:19] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Good deal . The package manager can remove either app . I do believe that you have to choose the one you want to use, and remove the other .
[04:19] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i am not sure what they are.. so can i simply remove both? will that be safe ?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sure .. do apt-cache show <package) for " account-plugin-google " you see it's priority is "optional" .. one can safely remove them .
[04:23] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, yes.. priority says optional.. how do i remove them ?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: ' sudo apt remove account-plugin-google kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[04:26] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227472/
[04:29] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Mabe best rething this . see the outpur from ' apt-cache show  kde-telepathy ' . Maybe you really do not want this app removed ?
[04:30] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, if its safe to remove it .. i am happy to get it removed.
[04:31] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, the priority of that output does say its optional.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227491/
[04:33] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: yes .. it is safe to remove . but see what it is on the description fiels . Do you want to loose this  means to connect
[04:33] <Bashing-om>  to several instant messaging networks, chat with your friends and
[04:33] <Bashing-om>  collaborate with them.
[04:34] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i dont use any apps in ubuntu to connect to instant msg apps like google talk or facebook chat.. the only IM i use is Xchat to connect to the ubuntu channel.
[04:35] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, will i still be able to use Xchat to connect to the Ubuntu channel if we remove kde-telepathy ?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Yeah is all good . I am a propenent of - if you do not use it, remove it from the system - do ' sudo apt remove  means to connect
[04:38] <Bashing-om>  to several instant messaging networks, chat with your friends and
[04:38] <Bashing-om>  collaborate with them.
[04:38] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: bad bad paste !
[04:39] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: do ' sudo apt remove kde-telepathy ' .
[04:40] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i am unable to run that command.. this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227529/
[04:42] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: K; Try ' sudo apt remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' . then see if we can remove it .
[04:42] <owen1> is 15.10 considered stable?
[04:43] <owen1> i am thinking of upgrading my home server
[04:43] <Spider> i am using 15.10 on mine and it seems ok
[04:43] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, that doesnt work either .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227544/
[04:44] <owen1> Spider: sweet. is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 using the command line?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> owen1: server use is preferable LTS
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> owen1: also better not mix LTS with non-lts upgrades, use clean install instead
[04:45] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sheeshh ... ok how about ' sudo apt remove kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[04:45] <owen1> lotuspsychje: LTS is 14.04?
[04:45] <mgolisch> yes
[04:45] <owen1> i can't use it since i need to use letsencrypt
[04:45] <mgolisch> why?
[04:46] <mgolisch> iam sure you can
[04:46] <owen1> letencrypt doesn't work with the old python version
[04:46] <owen1> that comes with 14.04
[04:46] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, same error again http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227556/
[04:46] <Spider> why not just update python?
[04:47] <mgolisch> owen1: there was instructions on how to do it and others there said it works that way
[04:47] <owen1> Spider: i have both python 3 and 2.7 but my bash script is using 2.7 and i can't update the script. it's too complex and risky
[04:47] <mgolisch> you must be doing something wrong
[04:47] <owen1> i am ok to try update-alternatives
[04:47] <owen1> and switch to python3
[04:48] <mgolisch> that doesnt help, letsenctypt doesnt support python3
[04:48] <owen1> oh no
[04:48] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Ouch, round robin -- as a round and round we go . Let's take the package manager's advise and see what results ' sudo apt-get -f install ' . maybe get a hint on what the hold is .
[04:48] <mgolisch> if you wait some minutes ill spin up a vm and try the suggestions from that forum posts and see if i can get it to work
[04:49] <owen1> mgolisch: that would be amazing
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> owen1: its also not very reccomended to use higher/lower package versions, use the ones designed for 14.04
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | owen1
[04:50] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, error again .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227571/
[04:50] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, sorry for being such a pain in the ass mate.. but i really appreciate u helping me get this sorted.
[04:52] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: No need to be sorry . This is what we do - try and help . OK let's do this from a different approach ' sudo apt remove account-plugin-google ' .
[04:54] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, output is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227588/ :(
[04:55] <Guest30423> need help recovering files with live cd
[04:56] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: 'sudo apt remove unity-scope-gdrive ' .. maybe now ?
[04:57] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, same error bro.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227604/
[04:58] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, pls follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[04:59] <Guest30423> cage  Tnx I'll try that
[04:59] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Have we done ' sudo apt remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ... or is this where we started ?
[04:59] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, no worries mate!
[05:00] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i think thats where we started.. i ran the command again, and i get the same error
[05:01] <Spider> is it common for people to use the server edition with a desktop environment or do most people operate their severs via shell?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Yikes ! I hate to say it, but I am stuck . Do not know how to move forward, and we can not go back ! .
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Spider: server is mostly meant to have no GUI
[05:03] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, awwww!! thats alright bro.. but i have a feeling that there are broken packages in my system.. do u know how to remove the broken packages?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Spider: but some servers install lightweight X stuff also
[05:03] <TheRelic> is it possible to AUTO Yes on a apt-get upgrade & apt-get install ?
[05:04] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, hope this helps.. http://superuser.com/questions/164553/automatically-answer-yes-when-using-apt-get-install
[05:05] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: We already know where the problem is . - apt-get -f install - tells us . maybe we can get some additional info ' sudo dpkg -C ' .
[05:05] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i have already run autoremove and autoclean.. but they dont seem to remove the broken packages
[05:06] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227656/
[05:06] <Guest30423> using live cd I can see file folders but I do not have permission to open them
[05:07] <TheRelic> ty cage_raphel
[05:07] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, hope this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550811
[05:07] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, welcome mate!
[05:08] <mgolisch> owen1: the last instruction in thet post seem to work for me
[05:08] <owen1> mgolisch: oh. let me try again. do u run it as sudo?
[05:08] <idaem> 有人懂中文吗？
[05:09] <TheRelic> cage_raphel: i have 18 dirs, that all hold a src/leveldb/filename can i use chmod +x ~/*/src/leveldb/filename and it chmod all files in home dir sub dir * src/leveldb/name?
[05:09] <owen1> mgolisch: can u send the exact post, just to make sure we are talking about the same ones
[05:09] <mgolisch> owen1: no it does that on its own for everything it needs root access for
[05:09] <TheRelic> (this is root level)
[05:09] <mgolisch> owen1: yeah ill paste a patch file
[05:09] <owen1> mgolisch: thanks1
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> !jp | idaem
[05:09] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, you can give that a try
[05:10] <TheRelic> cage_raphel: im a newb and i am writing a sh script, do you deal in crypto?
[05:11] <idaem> when I change "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  "  into "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"  "
[05:11] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: OK .. what results ' sudo dpkg --configure kde-telepathy ' ?
[05:12] <idaem> then I typed startx to enter the system But the chrome can't play music in the internet
[05:14] <Bashing-om> idaem: in the terminal "text" envirom,emt the GUI is not started . chrome is a GUI app .
[05:15] <idaem> I have logged in tty1 and then I typed startx commend to enter the GUI
[05:15] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, no mate.. i dont deal with crypto
[05:15] <Bashing-om> idaem: "startx" has very limited applications in today's GUI's . What is the desktop that you would start ?
[05:16] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227711/
[05:16] <mgolisch> owen1:  wget https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mgolisch/74fced459d9a43a36948/raw/0f1568e04438b57a72b01a32d4f6d4c975ef6bc3/letsencrypt-auto.patch       in the letsencrypt dir , then run patch < letsencrypt-auto.patch
[05:17] <mgolisch> it shows no warnings anymore then for me
[05:17] <idaem> xfce4
[05:17] <idaem> I'm using the backbox in china.
[05:18] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: K ' sudo dpkg --configure kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[05:20] <Bashing-om> idaem: What results 'startxfce4' ?
[05:20] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227731/
[05:20] <Guest48203> why doesn't ubuntu automatically create an encrypted partition for SWAP during installing process?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Humm .. how about ' sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ??
[05:22] <idaem> sorry maybe I did not express clearly
[05:22] <smacktalk> I need to create a tap interface for a vbox vm
[05:22] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227743/
[05:23] <idaem> When I finished editing the grub and type "grub-update"     I reboot my system
[05:24] <idaem> I logged in the text mode  which just in test mode like BT5 which I used before.
[05:24] <Guest48203> when installing ubuntu there is an option to automatically encrypt the drive, yet this is not possible because it warns that your swap is not encrypted so it aborts the whole process... fail
[05:24] <idaem> If I want to enter in the GUI, I should type the command "startx"
[05:28] <owen1> mgolisch: sweet! i'll try that
[05:28] <EriC^^> idaem: sudo service lightdm star
[05:28] <EriC^^> idaem: sudo service lightdm start
[05:28] <gns3> hello
[05:29] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, any luck bro ?
[05:29] <gns3> what are you talking about?
[05:30] <idaem> Thank you , I will try it
[05:31] <idaem> another , how did you reply to others with their ID?
[05:32] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Nope .. I am stuck . You have cleaned out the cache and still with the round robin . Presently do not know what else to do .
[05:32] <owen1> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14227786/
[05:32] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, hmmm ok bro.. thank you so much for your help though !! :)
[05:34] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sorry, no help as we are no further in fixing the problem .
[05:36] <Nightelf_> why does my ubuntu performance keep getting low by time until rebooting?
[05:37] <Nightelf_> even after closing all applications
[05:39] <mgolisch> owen1: you might need to delete ~./local/share/letsencrypt , if you ran the script before applying that patch
[05:39] <owen1> mgolisch: ok
[05:40] <mgolisch> i mean ~/.local/share/letsencrypt
[05:43] <owen1> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14227836/
[05:45] <mgolisch> odd, it shows no error for me :(
[05:45] <mgolisch> or warning rather
[05:49] <mgolisch> owen1: does that warning actualy prevent your from requesting a certificate?
[05:50] <owen1> mgolisch: yeah. the script aborts
[05:56] <mgolisch> o i think i messed up the patch
[05:59] <mgolisch> owen1: do git reset --hard and use that patch instead https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mgolisch/3103fbf5f558fbba0062/raw/5ae444092d62c68bc4c321ff83532302d75575cd/letsencrypt-auto.patch
[05:59] <owen1> ok. 1 sec
[06:03] <owen1> mgolisch: works! so it was the verbose flag?
[06:04] <mgolisch> i ran it with that, i guess thats what made the difference but yeah that even works on my 12.04 server
[06:04] <mgolisch> just requested a cert a minute ago
[06:05] <owen1> cool. thanks a lot
[06:06] <owen1> i told the people on #letsencrypt
[06:55] <xintox> how do i change the timezone on ubuntu server 15.10?
[07:02] <ozcanesen> how can i disable lightdm complately? echo “manual” >> /etc/init/lightdm.override trick did not worked for 15.04
[07:05] <ozcanesen> changing grub defaults “quiet splash” to “text” did not work either
[07:12] <xintox> does anyone have gamecenter live?
[07:13] <xintox> do you know if it includes playoffs and no blackouts if you use vpn?
[07:14] <ubuntu> will
[07:14] <wewgas> HEY FAGGOTS
[07:14] <sunjiang> ...
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | wewgas
[07:15] <Guest27274> I'm trying to recover files from a bad ubuntu 14.04 disk by using a live dvd boot.
[07:17] <calcmandan> fresh new toshiba sattelite laptop, installed ubuntu on first boot by way of live flash
[07:17] <Guest27274> I can access the bad disk and see the directory graphically but i don't have permission to access my user folder. Any ideas?t he dont hav
[07:17] <calcmandan> after install, i rebooted and the system says no OS installed. I launched live disc again and there's a proper directory structure. i'm assuming grub didn't install.
[07:18] <calcmandan> looking for guidance to confirm whether grub was properly installed or not.
[07:20] <EriC^^> calcmandan: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:22] <calcmandan> roger that. wait one
[07:23] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/5z57/
[07:24] <EriC^^> calcmandan: ok, ubuntu is installed in uefi mode
[07:24] <EriC^^> you probably have a stubborn bios
[07:25] <calcmandan> EriC^^: it prompted me about uefi.
[07:25] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:26] <calcmandan> ok drive is mounted
[07:26] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[07:26] <EriC^^> then type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:27] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/04p3/
[07:28] <EriC^^> calcmandan: ok, type ls -lR /mnt | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:31] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/r90m
[07:32] <EriC^^> calcmandan: is secureboot enabled?
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: i didn't see that option in bios.
[07:33] <EriC^^> ok
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: would it be default on these new laptops?
[07:33] <EriC^^> calcmandan: yeah, it's ok though
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: i didn't look that hard though.
[07:34] <calcmandan> EriC^^: the last laptop i bought was system76 and had no eufi worries
[07:34] <EriC^^> calcmandan: type sudo mkdir /mnt/EFI/Boot
[07:34] <calcmandan> done
[07:35] <EriC^^> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[07:35] <calcmandan> forgot the sudo
[07:35] <calcmandan> done
[07:35] <EriC^^> ok
[07:35] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[07:36] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[07:36] <calcmandan> ok
[07:36] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[07:37] <calcmandan> done
[07:40] <EriC^^> calcmandan: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[07:40] <EriC^^> calcmandan: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi -L "windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[07:41] <calcmandan> i got some output.going to pastebin it. wait one
[07:42] <calcmandan> http://pastebin.com/G3LwDkAR
[07:48] <EriC^^> calcmandan: looks good
[07:48] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[07:48] <calcmandan> fingers crossed. if this works, i'm in your debt.
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[08:01] <axsuul> I think my server has been hacked, using nethogs, i've been seeing all these outgoing requests being made. How can I trace what's making those requests? Here's the screenshot of what I'm seeing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/hs7ano41gdv5007/2015-12-26%20at%2011.59%20PM%202x.png?dl=0
[08:04] <hypermist> I am having trouble figuring out if. ubuntu 14.04 has php7
[08:04] <hypermist> or only 5 ?
[08:07] <mgolisch> was php7 released in april 2014?
[08:09] <rww> (It came out this month.)
[08:09] <hypermist> So no package around for it yet rww ?
[08:10] <rww> Ubuntu backports security fixes and such after release. With very few exceptions, new major versions aren't put into existing releases.
[08:11] <hypermist> Damnit i needed php7 too haha ohwell guess imma have to deal with php5
[08:16] <SoLux> Hello.
[08:16] <xtnt> Hi.
[08:17] <SoLux> What are the rules in here?
[08:18] <rww> the ones the bot PMed you when you joined
[08:18] <rww> !guidelines
[08:19] <SoLux> Alright, thanks. :)
[08:40] <slkjnax> Hi all.
[08:40] <slkjnax> I am unable to install any package after I installed skype on my 64bit ubuntu
[08:40] <slkjnax> here are the errors that I get when I try to do so
[08:40] <slkjnax> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2138edce24b0eaa7484
[08:46] <rww> which version of Ubuntu?
[08:46] <slkjnax> 12.04, rww
[08:47] <rww> pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libqt4-webkit
[08:48] <slkjnax> rww: okay
[08:49] <slkjnax> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/1494808be633
[08:51] <wlinux> ?
[08:51] <wlinux> anyone else?
[08:52] <leamon> I need to set home network in ubuntu 15.04 like it seems in windows.
[08:52] <wlinux> how to use....
[08:52] <leamon> Is there any way to do it?
[08:53] <slkjnax> rww: any idea how to resolve this issue?
[08:53] <wlinux> I can't use it
[08:54] <wlinux> why nobody tell...
[08:55] <rww> slkjnax: what's the output of sudo dpkg --print-architecture
[08:55] <TheRelic> i am trying to write a s h script, how would i add a user (adduser name) via sh script that will auto generate a unknown random pw unattended?
[08:56] <slkjnax> rww: amd64
[08:56] <rww> yeah, there's the issue. it's trying to install i386 dependencies but you don't have any i386 repositories
[08:57] <leamon> I'm sorry.
[08:57] <rww> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:57] <slkjnax> rww: okay, so how do I set it back to amd64 package?
[08:57] <wlinux> what are you talking about?
[08:57] <rww> assuming there is no amd64 skype package (which I have no idea about, since I don't use it)
[08:57] <rww> wlinux: How to use what?
[08:57] <slkjnax> rww:  there is none
[08:58] <slkjnax> rww: wlinux  is probably trolling
[08:58] <wlinux> i can't speak english well...
[08:58] <rww> slkjnax: okies. enable multiarch with the above commands and see if that helps, then. if not, pastebin the new output of the -f install
[08:58] <slkjnax> rww: okay it will take some time, on slow internet
[08:59] <rww> wlinux: You're in #ubuntu, which is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux in English. If you need help with Ubuntu in another language, let me know which, there may be another channel to use. For general chatter, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:00] <wlinux> thanks
[09:00] <slkjnax> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/3701da0058ec
[09:00] <rww> still? hrm.
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww:  yes :(
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww: wait, there were some warning for first command in that row
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww:  dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[09:02] <rww> ugh, i wonder if 12.04 is too old for multiarch
[09:02]  * rww looks
[09:05] <slkjnax> rww: there is --assert-multi-arch option
[09:05] <agnuhssi> Pretty cool that your brand has its own soda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola
[09:05] <rww> yeah, just found something online that rings a bell from three years ago...
[09:06] <rww> slkjnax: ls /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/, is "multiarch" the only file in there?
[09:06] <rww> if so, what are its contents (cat /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch)
[09:07] <slkjnax> rww:  yeah
[09:07] <nname31> hello
[09:07] <nname31> how can  add models (bjt npn and pnp) in ngspice?
[09:08] <rww> slkjnax: is there anything in it? I don't have a 12.04 VM handy to check
[09:11] <sljnax_> hey rww  sorry I got dc
[09:11] <sljnax_> content is foreign-architecture i386
[09:14] <sljnax_> rww: should I change the content of that file to something else?
[09:14] <rww> oh, duh, apt-cache defaults to only showing the non-foreign architecture of packages. grr.
[09:15] <rww> sljnax_: output of apt-cache policy libqt4-webkit:i386
[09:16] <sljnax_> rww: https://bpaste.net/show/6f46ae757478
[09:16] <rww> sljnax_: output of sudo apt-get install libqt4-webkit:i386
[09:16] <rww> might need a -f there, i forget
[09:17] <sljnax_> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/741f9e066260
[09:17] <sljnax_> same o/p
[09:17] <dumbo_000> Hello!!! please i really need some help with my new asus x554la - XO1236D , running Freedos 1.0.5 , Freecom version 0.84-pre XMS_Swap, I can't boot from CD to install ubuntu!!! (even after changed boot settings in Bios) Please help I am desperate
[09:17] <sljnax_> dumbo_000:  tried with usb stick?
[09:19] <dumbo_000> I would really like to boot from cd i burnt it and i don't like to waste money on cds without using them and i am too lazy too to make an usb stick
[09:20] <dumbo_000> (lol?)
[09:21] <dumbo_000> can someone help me please? I am a good boy and only want to install my ubuntu from cd..oh come on......
[09:23] <sljnax_> rww: is there a way I can undo adding skype and get back to normal settings as before?
[09:24] <rww> sljnax_: I think sudo dpkg -r skype:i386
[09:24] <rww> and then do apt-get -f install again to make sure it worked
[09:24] <sljnax_> well it did the trick :P
[09:24] <sljnax_> installing texlive now
[09:25] <rww> alrighty. want to carry on poking at skype, or going to leave it for now?
[09:30] <sjlnax_> rww got dc again :(
[09:30] <sjlnax_> for now I am going to keep it as is
[09:30] <sjlnax_> rww I would want to install it later though
[09:31] <sjlnax_> 1% [1 pgf 2,033 kB/5,668 kB 36%]                                                                                        8,879 B/s 5h 22min 47s
[09:31] <sjlnax_> right now this is the status of speed
[09:31] <sjlnax_> :P
[09:31] <sjlnax_> rww where ubuntu keeps the Skype . files?
[09:31] <sjlnax_> my autosaved settings etc?
[09:32] <rww> I think it's just /home/username/.Skype
[09:33] <sjlnax_> hmm, nothing there
[09:33] <rww> did you have an old version installed or something?
[09:33] <sjlnax_> rww: yes
[09:33] <sjlnax_> I did
[09:34] <sjlnax_> maybe I shreaded that folder
[09:34] <sjlnax_> I forgot the command to shred now :(
[09:34] <sjlnax_> find .Skype -type file | shred -u -v?
[09:35] <sjlnax_> yeah find .Skype -type f | shred -u -v
[09:38] <sjlnax_> thanks rww
[09:38] <sjlnax_> gotta go now
[09:52] <hiexpo> merry xmas
[10:03] <satrah> Hello all :)
[10:04] <satrah> new to irc is there sound function on xchat
[10:06] <satrah> found it
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> Hi there
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> I need some help
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> how can I make XBOXDRV allways start with this line? sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad
[10:25] <satrah> hi Sergio... can it be done using a shell script
[10:25] <satrah> I'm still a bit new to linux, but it's my best answer
[10:27] <SergioEDuran1> satrah, I see
[10:29] <SergioEDuran1> the fact is that I need the --mimic-xpad because I have Guacamelee gold edition and I love play it with my XBOX 360 gamepad
[10:29] <rigo2341> hi. what if i install ubuntu from an usb stick to a freshly wiped clean hdd and it will not boot up? what to do please?
[10:31] <slidinghorn> SergioEDuran1: you're starting it from command line anyway, right?  Just create a bash alias:  use     nano ~/.bash_aliases        and add the line      alias xboxdrv="sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad"         save, then run       /bin/bash          and your command will work next time you use it
[10:32] <slidinghorn> !nomodeset | rigo2341
[10:33] <rigo2341> its not a blank screen, its like there would be no hdd at all so it goes right to the next boot option which is pxe
[10:33] <slidinghorn> rigo2341: without much more detail as to what happens when you attempt to boot, that's the best I can provide.  Any errors etc?
[10:33] <SergioEDuran1> slidinghorn, tank you
[10:33] <SergioEDuran1> thank you*
[10:33] <dumbo_000> hey can someone use freedos? i got problems on booting from cd from there i got an asus X554L - XO1236D
[10:34] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, this is ubuntu support, not freedos
[10:34] <dumbo_000> the problem is that without being able to use dvd drive in there i can't install ubuntu lol, please understand.
[10:34] <SergioEDuran1> slidinghorn, let me try
[10:35] <dumbo_000> freedos irc channel is a bit quiet right now
[10:35] <SergioEDuran1> first I will reboot with not it
[10:35] <kubuntu> Hei.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, still completely off-topic here.
[10:36] <rigo2341> no errors. so. i wiped the hdd completely. created a gpt - msdos - partition table, rebooted from usb stick installed the system totally automatically. rebooted again and no error message, just as if there would be no system on the hdd. so the boot sequence is just ignoring it.
[10:38] <slidinghorn> rigo2341: have you tried updating grub in a live environment to make sure it's recognizing the new OS?
[10:38] <Guest22061> Noen som vet om en bra ok maskin som tar 3 skjermer til ubuntu til en billigst mulig penge. ingen spilling elle store operasjoner.
[10:38] <rigo2341> the hdd is there. it is errorfree. the system is installed. the hdd is partitioned to 3. the efi partition has the boot and esp flag.
[10:39] <kostkon> !no | Guest22061
[10:39] <rigo2341> with grub-install --root-directory stuff? yes.
[10:40] <dumbo_000> cfhowlett i am sorry for that, can you suggest me some way to solve my problem if i can't ask for help in a wise and respected channel like that?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, www.freedos.org lists 3 social network channels. ask there
[10:41] <dumbo_000> i really need to solve that problem as soon as possible and i dunno where to ask for a question like that..freedos channel is quiet at the moment
[10:41] <satrah> hi agian test colour change
[10:42] <dumbo_000> thank you,btw-- have a nice day.
[10:44] <nname31> hello
[10:44] <nname31> how can add bjt models (pnp, npn) in ngspice?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> nname31, ask the ngspice channel
[10:51] <rigo2341> im not sure if i want linux. if it is impossible to install on a factory-clean hdd with the fully automatic method.
[10:53] <bekks> rigo2341: What happens instead?
[10:54] <rigo2341> i boot up and like the hdd would be empty.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> rigo2341, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[10:54] <bekks> Boot up from what?
[10:55] <bekks> cd or usb thumb drive?
[10:55] <rigo2341> bekks:  usb
[10:55] <rigo2341> i dont have a cd drive
[11:04] <sunwind> hey guys, when I run software center from the apps menu I get these errors when trying to install or uninstall anything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229122/
[11:04] <sunwind> but if I sudo software-center in a console it works fine
[11:05] <sunwind> I can't figure out how to sort it so I don't have to do that though
[11:05] <cfhowlett> sunwind, what did you try to instll
[11:05] <sunwind> vlc
[11:05] <sunwind> among other things
[11:05] <sunwind> it doesn't matter what
[11:05] <cfhowlett> sunwind, try  the terminal: sudo apt install vlc
[11:06] <sunwind> yeah I know I could just do it like that but that's not really solving the problem :B
[11:08] <Ghost_r00t> hello guys. what should i do to just update gcc and related already installed gcc compiler on my system
[11:09] <vaishu> sunwind: which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:09] <sunwind> wily
[11:10] <bekks> Ghost_r00t: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dis-upgrade
[11:10] <bekks> Ghost_r00t: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <vaishu> sunwind: See if PolicyKit Authentication Agent is checked or unchecked in Startup Programs.
[11:12] <vaishu> sunwind: Check it if it is unchecked there
[11:12] <sunwind> it is checked
[11:13] <vaishu> sunwind: Ah, then may be you can try reinstalling ubuntu software center
[11:13] <sunwind> I tried that already a couple times :(
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  can you start any other gui program with password?
[11:13] <sunwind> and lots of googling the issue
[11:13] <sunwind> everything else seems to run fine without complaining about permissions
[11:14] <vaishu> sunwind: Oh :(
[11:14] <vaishu> Are you able to do this as a root?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  run the software center from terminal, to see errors
[11:15] <sunwind> ok
[11:17] <sunwind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229205/
[11:17] <sunwind> ran it and installed nestopia and that was the entire console
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  what's the ouput of  cat /etc/issue
[11:19] <sunwind> could you tell me how I can read that?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  in a terminal
[11:20] <sunwind> ok yeah but I mean, I have no idea how to use the terminal other than sudo and apt-get
[11:20] <sunwind> I'm a newb at this
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  simply type   cat /etc/issue    then hit enter
[11:21] <sunwind> oh.
[11:21] <olf-folks> sunwind: try   setterm -forground red
[11:21] <olf-folks> sunwind: it will make you look way cool
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | olf-folks
[11:22] <sunwind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229241/ that's all
[11:26] <olf-folks> sunwind: is that the dev version? why not use the stable version?
[11:26] <bekks> olf-folks: there is no such things as "the dev version".
[11:26] <sunwind> I don't know, I am using it via crouton on my chromebook and wily was just one of the install options
[11:26] <ikonia> 15.10 is not dev
[11:27] <bekks> olf-folks: 15,10 is a stable release, published in October 2015.
[11:27] <sunwind> https://ricochet.im/releases/1.1.1/ which of these will ubuntu be able to install? (if any)
[11:27] <ikonia> there we go - crouton
[11:28] <olf-folks> wow i was un-awares ill upgrade bekks
[11:29] <bekks> olf-folks: Which version are you running?
[11:30] <ikonia> that is not a supported ubuntu product it's a hack
[11:30] <ikonia> the crouton guys can support you - we cannot
[11:30] <olf-folks> hardy heron bekks
[11:30] <bekks> !hardy | olf-folks
[11:31] <sunwind> oh
[11:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade | ubottu
[11:31] <sunwind> I thought crouton was just something that enabled it to run and didn't really affect anything to do with it
[11:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade > olf-folks
[11:31] <ikonia> ttake this to the crouton guys please
[11:33] <sunwind> alright well thanks for trying to help guys
[11:34] <sam_> hi
[11:34] <sunwind> although maybe you could answer this: https://ricochet.im/releases/1.1.1/ which of these will ubuntu be able to install? (if any)
[11:34] <ikonia> this is not ubunt
[11:35] <sunwind> oh ok. the download link just said 'linux' and lead there
[11:35] <sunwind> so it won't run on ubuntu?
[11:35] <bekks> sunwind: You have to build it on your own.
[11:35] <sunwind> ah ok
[11:37] <olf-folks> sunwind: don't give up sometimes it is as easy as un-zip and a few commands to compile something.
[11:37] <ikonia> that is nonsense
[11:37] <sunwind> lol
[11:37] <sunwind> I've compiled things like 10 years ago but any memory of how to do that stuff is gone
[11:37] <ikonia> sunwind: cruton is not an official ubuntu product - it's a hack to put part of ubuntu's userland on chrome OS
[11:38] <sunwind> cygwin! I used that. that's all I recall.
[11:38] <sunwind> I see
[11:38] <ikonia> sunwind: if you need help the crouton guys are your support resource, not here, as you are not running ubuntu
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  you're in the wrong channel, that's why we couldnt help you
[11:38] <sunwind> does crouton really make that much difference to how it works?
[11:38] <ikonia> yes
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sunwind, yes
[11:39] <ikonia> because its not an ubuntu install
[11:39] <sunwind> I see
[11:39] <ikonia> t's just some userland productus ontop of chrome
[11:39] <sunwind> I thought it was just some kind of 'bootloader' thing, like I said, new to this stuff
[11:39] <cfhowlett> sunwind, and again(!), you are not using ubuntu so you in the *wrong channel*.
[11:39] <sunwind> wow chill out dude
[11:39] <sunwind> there's 1700 people in here I can't even idle?
[11:39] <olf-folks> but, you could hack your cromebook and put ubuntu on it :)
[11:39] <olf-folks> sunwind: ^
[11:40] <ikonia> sunwind: you're welcome to idle, but we won't support your install
[11:40] <kernelPanic> hi all, please Help!! :) i got kernel panic and i am too: http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:40] <sunwind> yeah I get that, no worries
[11:42] <kernelPanic> Any one can point me in the right direction?
[11:43] <kernelPanic> Bump http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:45] <MOXHO> можно по русски
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !ru | MOXHO
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:45] <MOXHO> MonkeyDust, Спасибо!
[11:47] <kernelPanic> anyone can you please help me? http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !patience | kernelPanic
[11:48] <locksmith> Hello, can someone tell me what is the correct way of doing this? I want to run a command, but it shouldn't have access to internet?
[11:48] <kernelPanic> Sorry.
[11:48] <locksmith> I was thinking AppArmor or the "network domain" feature?
[11:48] <locksmith> network namespace I mean
[11:48] <locksmith> How would I say that "this process can only access this network" ?
[11:49] <locksmith> or like say "this process can not access this network/interface" ?
[11:49] <kernelPanic> I have searched all over, and now is my 5th hour trying to get the right cause... cfhowlett ubottu :-)
[11:49] <olf-folks> in ubuntu is there a way to play dos games on ubuntu without installing xorg?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> kernelPanic, understood.  still gotta be patient.  I didn't offer answer cause I don't have kernel panic knowledge ... nor can I see your paste here in China.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> olf-folks  with dosbox
[11:50] <OpenSorce> kernelPanic, have you tried removing all USB devices?
[11:50] <locksmith> Yeah, how do I limit a process to a certain interface?
[11:50] <olf-folks> MonkeyDust: can dosbox run without xorg?
[11:50] <locksmith> network interface *
[11:51] <OpenSorce> locksmith, you could define such restrictions in a firewall
[11:51] <locksmith> so ip tables?
[11:51] <kernelPanic> yes, nothing is connected other then Network and power. i plugged in the monitor to see why it is down... OpenSorce
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> kernelPanic  here in the channel, type   /msg alis list kernel
[11:51] <locksmith> OpenSorce: ip tables, and run it as a certain user/group ?
[11:51] <locksmith> OpenSorce: that's the 3rd way I think
[11:52] <locksmith> AppArmor can't do this I think
[11:52] <locksmith> right?
[11:52] <locksmith> so the 'unshare' program
[11:53] <OpenSorce> kernelPanic, hmm... looks like a bad reaction to some hardware. Do you have a sound or video card slotted on that machine?
[11:54] <kernelPanic> built in, its a 12 or 13 years old machine, it was working for many years... OpenSorce .
[11:55] <cfhowlett> kernelPanic, you're running ubuntu  on that box?/
[11:55] <kernelPanic> OpenSorce Basic P4 2.8 GH with 1.5 GB Ram.
[11:55] <kernelPanic> cfhowlett Yes, running Ubuntu-server
[11:55] <OpenSorce> locksmith, never used AppArmor. I did use something called "Trickle" once to achieve a similar goal.
[11:56] <OpenSorce> locksmith, http://www.tecmint.com/manage-and-limit-downloadupload-bandwidth-with-trickle-in-linux/
[11:58] <MOXHO> как переход от "UNity"?
[12:00] <DJones> !ru | MOXHO
[12:00] <OpenSorce> MOXHO, Я будет сообщение Вы частном
[12:00] <MOXHO> OpenSorce, Спасибо
[12:09] <BigBaby> Hey OpenSorce, this is KernelPanic here.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <raji> hi
[12:17] <Esxyz> why would someone use Ubuntu instead of just MINT?
[12:18] <BigBaby> btw, this is me http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[12:20] <ikonia> BigBaby: what do you want us to do with that
[12:20] <ikonia> Esxyz: it's personal choice,
[12:20] <Esxyz> based on what
[12:20] <ikonia> support, desktop enviornments, products, release cycle, anything really
[12:21] <BigBaby> ikonia i am struggling with this about 5.5 hours. and i can really use your help.
[12:21] <ikonia> that information is useless
[12:21] <Esxyz> doesn't MINT have better support, better DE's configured out the box, and a better release cycle?
[12:21] <ikonia> it tells us nothing
[12:21] <ikonia> Esxyz: it's personal opinion
[12:21] <ikonia> make up your own mind
[12:21] <optimistic7> which is the best documentation for linux kernel?
[12:21] <ikonia> optimistic7: kernel.org
[12:22] <optimistic7> ok thnks :)
[12:22] <BigBaby> ikonia server was running, then it started doing this all of a sudden. getting Kernel Panic, and i really don't know how to solve this. looking for anyone who has an idea and can point me in the right direction.
[12:22] <ikonia> BigBaby: you'd need a lot more information than that
[12:23] <Esxyz> why does this review say this?
[12:23] <Esxyz> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/review-mint-17-3-may-be-the-best-linux-desktop-distro/
[12:23] <Esxyz> "Perhaps the most worrying thing about Mint is that it's based on Ubuntu, the future of which looks a lot less bright than it used to. There is of course Linux Mint Debian Edition, but it tends to lag well behind its Ubuntu-based brethren when it comes to updates and polish."
[12:23] <Esxyz> a lot less bright?
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: who cares
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: make up your own mind
[12:23] <BigBaby> ikonia What do you need, i will get it. this is my first time using IRC, so forgive my ignorance.
[12:23] <Esxyz> I am wondering what "happened" to Ubuntu
[12:23] <Esxyz> since I was away a few years
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: nothing
[12:23] <BigBaby> ikonia i am a software engineer, but not really a deep kernel user.
[12:24] <ikonia> BigBaby: you'd need to capture the full dump, but I suspect you'll struggle with that,
[12:24] <Esxyz> my friend told me that ubuntu basically failed and didnt take off like it was supposed to, and I need to check Mint instead
[12:24] <ikonia> BigBaby: why not look at obvious things, eg: whats changed between it working/not working
[12:24] <Esxyz> a couple years back like something happened
[12:24] <ikonia> Esxyz: talk to your friend then
[12:25] <BigBaby> ikonia only thing i did in last ccouple months was updates, nothing changed on this server for almost 4 years.
[12:25] <Abe> I'm being paranoid! "netstat -a" shows an ip address "25.69.237.6" I looked for that ip and it turn out to be the Ministry of Defense. http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=79383343 but it's listed as a local address so I might read something wrong. does somebody has that ip popping up too in netstat -a. sorry guys sometimes I just turn paranoid
[12:25] <ikonia> BigBaby: have look at the syslog see if there are any obvious errors
[12:26] <ikonia> Abe: look at how / what it's connecting to
[12:26] <BigBaby> ikonia great, where can i find it? /var/log/????
[12:26] <ikonia> BigBaby: thats it
[12:26] <BigBaby> ikonia so /var/log/syslog ?
[12:26] <ikonia> BigBaby: that works, a nice idea is delete all your logs, reboot (if possible) and then look at the logs after it panics
[12:27] <ikonia> that will remove a lot of pointless noise
[12:27] <BigBaby> ikonia will do, i have a ubuntu live CD ready to boot and cleanup. i will get you a single boot log.
[12:28] <ikonia> don't want a boot log
[12:28] <BigBaby> ikonia, it will take me some time, as it is on a downstairs. i know about the boot, you mean syslog,
[12:28] <BigBaby> ikonia right?
[12:29] <ikonia> I don't want a log
[12:29] <ikonia> you need to review the logs
[12:29] <BigBaby> oh.
[12:29] <BigBaby> ikonia, thank you
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Abe, I'm in China and see no such questionable entry, but I still assume some degree of monitoring somewhere
[12:29] <BigBaby> ikonia i will review, and i hope i will understand the syslog.
[12:32] <Abe> ikonia: how do I check that? STATE says nothing idk what netbiosdgm means. "udp |0 |0 25.69.237.6:netbios-dgm *:*" like I said it shows at Local address not as Foreign Address
[12:33] <ikonia> what do you mean it shows as a local address ?
[12:33] <Abe> Im not that familiar with it so I might be completly wrong
[12:33] <Abe> let me take a screen. sorry it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Abe, actually, you would be better served in #networking
[12:36] <Abe> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=51140887 ok all the way on top, it says Local Address, on foreign address nothing is listed. cfhowlett ok I will switch over there
[12:39] <dumbo_000> I know i better not write about that in here please can i ask something that is just about partitions and drives? i'm about to install ubuntu on my asus X554LA-XO1236D my only fault is that it has freedos 1.0.5 installed. didn't want to pay for a windows licence if i wanted to install linux.
[12:40] <livcd> can someone point me to 15.10 repos so i can check if it contains a specific version of pkg ?
[12:40] <DJones> livcd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:41] <dumbo_000> now, please..i don't know where to ask about it.. i made a fdisk to see drives it recognize 2 drives C: (default hard disk drive) D: (unaccessible drive but it says it's a fat32 partition)
[12:43] <dumbo_000> now my drives situation is : A and B drives: can't access both,but i suppose b drive should be for floppy disk (my laptop doesn't use it) , C: hard disk, D: says no label cannot access files E:freedos folder
[12:43] <dumbo_000> ok i have to boot from CD
[12:44] <dumbo_000> to install ubuntu. i changed settings in bios...to allow boot from cd, i select device but it doesn't allow me to boot from cd..it says the D: drive is a partition too...
[12:45] <dumbo_000> i spent hours and hours searching for a solution but i haven't found a good one yet...it doesn't recognize usb drive too, i got a cd with drivers but i cannot access it from freedos.
[12:45] <livcd> DJones: thx
[12:46] <locksmith> Is it just me or do programmers *hate* auto-updates or what?
[12:47] <dumbo_000> you can understand is a weird situation, it's off-topic everywhere so why not asking here. let me say sorry to them who does not agree with it.. i am desperate and need some help.
[12:47] <locksmith> As a programmer, I couldn't give less shit about security updates that affect either someone who is either a) really dumb and shouldn't be using linux in the first place or b) installed their os 5 years ago and really needs an update
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  calm down and explain what brings you here
[12:48] <dumbo_000> please help me change OS. :(
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  try both with a live dvd /usb, then decide what you like most
[12:50] <locksmith> seriously, who here is running a heavy SSH server and just needs the latest version of every lib
[12:50] <locksmith> I have like 6 ports open I could give less shit about outdated software
[12:50] <cfhowlett> locksmith, drop the profanity.  unnecessary and unwelcome
[12:50] <farooghkz> dumbo, say me ur problem.
[12:50] <farooghkz> im not sure but maybe i help u.
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  no such language here
[12:50] <dumbo_000> MonkeyDust, i cannot access usb or dvd that's my problem
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  this is support, how can we help you
[12:51] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  how old is your pc?
[12:51] <dumbo_000> i cannot find out what's wrong and i wasting lot of time without an answer.
[12:51] <dumbo_000> it's a new pc
[12:52] <dumbo_000> like a 5 days.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !uefi | dumbo_000
[12:52] <SergioEDuran1> Hello friends
[12:53] <rvgate> locksmith, we did an auto-upgrade once on production... completely broke the platform because one of the packages had a new major release with a different storage mechanism... so yeah, i prefer frozen versions :P auto-update is nice for your personal server/computer tho
[12:54] <SergioEDuran1> the solution proposed by slidinghorn has not worked; any other idea? I need to make xboxdrv start with some extra options
[12:54] <rvgate> oh.. he left
[12:54] <SergioEDuran1> sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad
[12:55] <dumbo_000> how to make sure my asus X554LA-XO1236D is a UEFI?
[12:56] <farooghkz> u cant access that.
[12:56] <farooghkz> in ubuntu?
[12:56] <dumbo_000> I am a newbie with freedos and never pretended it to be my main OS
[12:57] <dumbo_000> cause it really drives me out of mind
[12:57] <dumbo_000> i feel more confortable with linux
[12:57] <farooghkz> is freedos ubuntu?
[12:57] <farooghkz> but dis is ubuntu channel
[12:57] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, did you red the UEFI wiki?
[12:58] <dumbo_000> i'm looking for help to install linux
[12:58] <dumbo_000> ubuntu is linux
[12:59] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, you asked about uefi.  I'm guessing you did not read the uefi link.  No on is going to hold your hand, and ignoring resources will get your questions ignored.
[12:59] <dumbo_000> come on don't tell me i can't look for help in here again..you know there's no right place
[12:59] <dumbo_000> i'm reading it cfhowlett
[13:00] <farooghkz> dumbo, sorry that i cant help u :-(
[13:01] <Bobbbb> Hello! Please excuse me if this is in the wrong place...I am on a slow internet connection so stuff is slow...I have a general programming question. Can anyone help?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Bobbbb, ask #programming
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Bobbbb  what coding language?
[13:02] <Bobbbb> Cfhowlett thanks. Sorry to be a nuisance. MonkeyDust in python3 or java, it is more regarding general nonspecific stuff though
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bobbbb  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:03] <Bobbbb> MonkeyDust thanks!
[13:10] <dumbo_000> I got a drivers disk that came out with my laptop but cannot access dvd drive to install..
[13:10] <Abe> Duuhh It was Hamachi guys xD I didn't think of that, besides I thought this program doesn't have a connection until the program is startet
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  if you can't install, then what is your question exactly?
[13:12] <dumbo_000> when i get to boot options and select ubuntu disk it brings me to main freedos screen
[13:13] <dumbo_000> it ignores my command to boot from cd
[13:13] <Abe> dumbo_000: do you have an EFI system ?
[13:13] <dumbo_000> tried with external dvd drive
[13:13] <dumbo_000> and it doesn't recognize it
[13:14] <jflkj> hi, I'm trying to copy a folder into another folder using sudo cp -r folder1 folder2 but it won't let me copy the entire thing, apparently. using du -sbh it differs [13:13] == Cannot send to channel: ##linux
[13:14] <dumbo_000> i don't know how to see if i have an EFI system or not
[13:14] <jflkj> whoops
[13:14] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, brand new, naked HDD?  you probably need to configure that drive before you do anything else.  read your hardware documentation.
[13:14] <jflkj> yeah, copied it because linux doesn't accept unregistered
[13:14] <Abe> dumbo_000: Is it an old BIOS or the newer kinds look newer mostly!
[13:14] <Abe> ?
[13:15] <Abe> if yes try turning off "secure boot" and later on turn it back "on"
[13:17] <hicken> why is still kepping asking password prompt  with ssh with publick autehntication i have folowed the steps http://www.golinuxhub.com/2014/01/how-to-create-password-less-ssh.html but still asking  me password
[13:17] <farooghkz> dumbo, say ur question again.
[13:18] <Abe> He cannot boot from CD
[13:18] <rvgate> hicken, not related to your question, but you should really avoid having passwordless ssh keys... even if someone gets a hold of your key, they wont be able to use it
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  and the dvd is burnt correctly?
[13:20] <rvgate> dumbo_000, i had a simular problem yesterday... fixed it by changing the SATA mode to AHCI in the bios
[13:21] <hicken> rvgate: i know but for the time bieang i want it to communicate  by both computers to do common task
[13:21] <martien> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 to install on an empty (old) laptop. Hoe can i install the .iso file?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> martien  burn it on a dvd or create a bootbale usb, then boot from there
[13:21] <farooghkz> martien, burn it on a dvd and boot it
[13:22] <rvgate> hicken, is the server prompting a password, or is it the prompt to unluck the key ?
[13:22] <jflkj> martien: use unetbootin, others might have trouble getting the casperfs right
[13:22] <Abe> dumbo_000: I bet you having problems with Uefi system
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> martien  partitioning is the hardest part, especially if you're familiar with it
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> not familiar*
[13:23] <hicken> rvgate: both of them are prompt even to unlock
[13:23] <martien> I copied it to a USB device. Booting from that device does not work.
[13:23] <jflkj> does anyone know my copying problem?
[13:24] <jflkj> martien: how did you copy it? is the iso file just in the disk or is it unpacked?
[13:24] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu ?
[13:24] <ikonia> jflkj: what version of ubuntu
[13:24] <Abe> where are all those guys coming from that want to install linux now :O
[13:24] <farooghkz> martien, u just copied?u should make a bootable usb
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> martien  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[13:25] <jflkj> martien: use unetbootin, yumi has trouble with the casperfs in 14.04
[13:25] <jflkj> ikonia: 14.04 live
[13:26] <Abe> just go and watch youtube tutorials on how to make a USB bootable
[13:26] <ikonia> jflkj: oh, as you're also asking in debian as a debian install ?
[13:26] <rvgate> hicken, check the destination first... disable the password login ssh server, set it to accept public key only... double check if your .pub is in the authorized_keys file.. also, make sure the user you're trying to login to matches the user on your machine, if not, prefix with ssh <user>@<host>... sorry if this sounds all basic
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Abe  just go and watch youtube how to fix your car
[13:26] <dumbo_000> there was no hardware documentation with the laptop..specs are those listed here: http://icecat.it/en/p/asus/90nb0658-m18500/notebooks-X554LA-XO1236D-27214044.html
[13:27] <jflkj> ikonia: see debian
[13:27] <ioria> dumbo_000, when you power on the laptop, what you got ? the Dos prompt  or what ?
[13:27] <martien> i copied the file from the download folder to the USB device. It is not unpacked.
[13:28] <ikonia> jflkj: what is the exact command you are using to copy the folder
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> martien  it has to be unpacked
[13:28] <jflkj> ikonia: sudo cp -r dir1 dir2
[13:28] <ikonia> jflkj: and what happens ?
[13:29] <ibm-r40> hi
[13:29] <Abe> dumbo_000: On this Pc yes you have probably an EFI system Go ahead and turn the secure boot off and choose The DVD Drive as First boot device. Install Ubuntu, after that go into your bios again and turn secure boot off. Don't forget to save your setting in the Bios
[13:29] <jflkj> ikonia: executes successfully, checking with du -sbh dir1 && dir 2 after it differs in size
[13:29] <martien> I downloaded and copied it with a windows laptop
[13:29] <ikonia> du is not something you should use to check
[13:29] <Abe> in the Uefi* sorry
[13:30] <jflkj> ikonia: with what should I?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> martien  ok, now you have to create a bootable usb with it, there are programs for that
[13:30] <ikonia> jflkj: a directory checksum ? or use rsync that has checking built in
[13:30] <farooghkz> martien, u should make a bootable usb. download unetbootin 4 windows
[13:30] <ikonia> jflkj: if it doesn't error - it's copied it exactly
[13:31] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me how to copy and check with rsync?
[13:31] <ikonia> rsync does it automatically
[13:31] <ikonia> it checksums before and after
[13:32] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me how to copy and check with rsync?p
[13:32] <jflkj> whoops sorry
[13:32] <Abe> MonkeyDust: sorry I take this back.
[13:32] <jflkj> pushed arrow up
[13:32] <ikonia> no problem
[13:32] <lettuce45> how do I start an application, from the cli, windowed?
[13:32] <jflkj> ikonia: do you know the command or should I read rsync?
[13:32] <dumbo_000> rvgate, my Sata mode is already AHCI and I can't change it
[13:33] <student> what is ubuntu channel for gci student
[13:33] <ikonia> rsync a b
[13:33] <jflkj> ikonia: should be root right?
[13:34] <ikonia> shy ?
[13:34] <ikonia> why ?
[13:34] <ikonia> why do you need to be root
[13:35] <dumbo_000> BTW: Serial ATA port 1 Device type:ATAPI CDROM Model name: MASHITA DVD-RAM UJ8HC
[13:35] <jflkj> can a normal user copy folders with root permissions? :s
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  with sudo
[13:35] <jflkj> yeah :P
[13:35] <ikonia> jflkj: what files arey ou trying to copy
[13:35] <jflkj> ikonia: root folder
[13:36] <ikonia> jflkj: there should only be systems files owned by root
[13:36] <ikonia> the root folder ? exactly what folder
[13:36] <jflkj> exactly
[13:36] <jflkj>  /root
[13:36] <ikonia>  /root is empty
[13:36] <ikonia> as there is no root user in ubuntu
[13:37] <jflkj> ikonia: it isn't empty :P
[13:37] <ikonia> jflkj: why is it not empty
[13:37] <ikonia> there is no root user in ubuntu
[13:37] <ikonia> so it should be empty
[13:38] <jflkj> ikonia: it's got all kinds of config files and stuff :D
[13:38] <ikonia> jflkj: why ?
[13:38] <ikonia> jflkj: it should be empty
[13:38] <farooghkz> ikonia, there is a root user in ubuntu that u can access it
[13:38] <ikonia> no you can't
[13:38] <ikonia> unlness you break the security model
[13:38] <ikonia> which you shouldn't be doing
[13:38] <farooghkz> with this
[13:38] <ikonia> hence /root should be empty
[13:39] <farooghkz> sudo -i
[13:39] <ikonia> that won't put you in /root
[13:39] <ikonia> that will give you a uid of 0
[13:39] <ikonia> so /root should be empty
[13:40] <farooghkz> we're talking about root user, right?
[13:40] <ikonia> what ?
[13:40] <jflkj> ikonia: well I got webcamstudio stuff in it, cache, config, dbus, gconf, gvfs, hplip, java, local, rpmdb, bash history, bashrc, profile
[13:41] <ikonia> jflkj: you shouldn't
[13:41] <ikonia> jflkj: why are you copying these elsewhere /
[13:41] <ikonia> you should not need anything in that directory
[13:41] <jflkj> ikonia: how is it in there then?
[13:41] <dumbo_000> how to add boot options in bios?
[13:41] <ikonia> depends what you have been doing
[13:41] <ikonia> dumbo_000: read your bios documentation
[13:41] <dumbo_000> i got a lamp
[13:41] <dumbo_000> lol
[13:42] <dumbo_000> where to find my bios documentation?
[13:43] <ioria> dumbo_000, why do you need to 'add' boot options ?
[13:43] <ikonia> in your botherboard manual/on the web
[13:43] <jflkj> ikonia: some askubuntu forum post said I should back it up
[13:43] <plasmalasgun> Does anyone knows how to config/install phpmyadmin? Whent localhost/phpmyadmin i always get 404
[13:43] <Abe> jflkj: Just put all your personal data and files in your Home Folder
[13:43] <farooghkz> dumbo, i think it comes with ur motherboard
[13:43] <ikonia> jflkj: then they are wrong
[13:43] <ikonia> jflkj: it should not be in the /root directory and you will never use/need it
[13:44] <dumbo_000> if i format everything i can still access bios?
[13:44] <Abe> jflkj: put all your stuff in your homefolder
[13:44] <dumbo_000> or boot from cd?
[13:44] <jflkj> abe ikonia so I should not backup etc, opt, root and var?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  yes, bios loads before the os
[13:45] <dumbo_000> ioria, i need boot options cause it cancelled default boot options i dunno why
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> 'loads'
[13:45] <farooghkz> yes if that problem is not with bios.
[13:45] <dumbo_000> i dunno if freedos can be considered an os or not
[13:45] <ioria> dumbo_000, when you power on the laptop, what you got ? the Dos prompt  or what ?
[13:45] <farooghkz> but dont do that
[13:45] <Abe> jflkj: I don't even know what you're trying to do. all your files in you home folder
[13:46] <dumbo_000> now i dunno what i've done but i only have the bios setup
[13:46] <ikonia> jflkj: /var /???
[13:46] <dumbo_000> it's aptio setup utility
[13:46] <ikonia> jflkj: what are you trying to do - what is your end goal
[13:46] <farooghkz> dumbo, also u can find bios doc at site of bios
[13:46] <hicken> rvgate: infact i am also beginer i have already checked what you told me but i coudnt find .pub in the authorized_keys file in the  remote server?
[13:47] <ioria> dumbo_000,  so you don't have the freedos prompt ?   like   c :\    ?
[13:47] <jflkj> ikonia Abe I'm just backing up my system and moving to debian and I really don't want to lose anything
[13:47] <ikonia> that seems a bad idea
[13:47] <ikonia> as debian / ubuntu will have difference config
[13:47] <ikonia> so why are you backing up bad stuff ?
[13:48] <jflkj> ikonia: are you saying there is no way to not lose my files while going to debian?
[13:48] <ikonia> jflkj: what files ?
[13:48] <Abe> Debian? this is Ubuntu?
[13:48] <farooghkz> i think hes talking about personel files
[13:49] <dumbo_000> ok solved dunno why it has done this seems like my laptop do what it wants when it wants and ignores my opinion
[13:49] <jflkj> ikonia: files I've gathered over the last year on ubuntu
[13:49] <dumbo_000> now i can still have boot options but still cant boot from cd
[13:49] <jflkj> Abe: yes this is ubuntu, I'm running ubuntu
[13:49] <ikonia> jflkj: such as ?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  in your /home, there are pictures, music etc, but also config files ... the config files are (or can be) useless when changing distro
[13:49] <ikonia> jflkj: as so far you have listed log files in /var and /root config files
[13:49] <ikonia> which are nothing to do with you
[13:49] <rvgate> hicken, your key comes with a private and public key... the contents of the public key should go in the authorized_keys file at the destination for a specific user.. /home/<user>/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:50] <dumbo_000> got boot override in my bios setup but it doesn't work too
[13:50] <jflkj> ikonia: what about the files in etc, opt, and var?
[13:50] <Abe> Ubuntu is not Debian. Debian based yes, but still a different system. Just don't do what you're trying to do
[13:50] <ikonia> jflkj: why would you take them ?
[13:50] <ikonia> jflkj: they are log files and system config files for ubuntu
[13:51] <farooghkz> dumbo, do u test that cd with another computer?
[13:51] <dumbo_000> freedos tells me after start: FAILURE! no IDE/ATAPI Drives found
[13:51] <dumbo_000> i can't install drivers without accessing cd
[13:52] <ioria> dumbo_000,  if i were you i reload the default values of the bios....
[13:52] <farooghkz> drivers 4 freedos?
[13:52] <Abe> ?
[13:52] <jflkj> ikonia: okay.. so just backing up home then..
[13:52] <hicken> rvgate: so du  mean can i secify the location while iam copy from the clieant to  the remote server like  the remote server is hduser $sudo ssh-copy-id -i $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub hduser@ipadres:/home/hduser/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: that can dangerous too
[13:53] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me what I can do?
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: take only what you want - not the whole directory
[13:53] <dumbo_000> when i try to access drive D: it tells me volume in drive D has no label, file not found
[13:53] <ikonia> as desktop config files for example won't port over
[13:53] <dumbo_000> it's the driver disk i can't access it like any other disks
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: copy the files you want to keep
[13:53] <Abe> jflkj: take all your personal files and back them up. like ikonia not the hole directory
[13:55] <jflkj> ikonia: Abe: what could be dangerous?
[13:55] <rvgate> hicken, the contents of id_rsa.pub (do a cat id_rsa.pub) should be inside the authorized_keys file at the server, on the user you're trying to login to
[13:55] <Abe> screwing with important system files
[13:56] <Abe> Take your home older as your home where you stuff everything in
[13:56] <Abe> thats what its for
 yeah i tested it with another computer, problem is not cd
[13:57] <dumbo_000> problem is how to make it read it
[13:57] <dumbo_000> it recognizes it but doesn't boot
[13:58] <Abe> dumbo_000: did you figure out if you have an EFI UEFI* System?
[13:58] <dumbo_000> or access files in here
[13:58] <jflkj> ikonia: Abe: for example I have images with owner access read and write, group acces read and other access none
[13:58] <dumbo_000> yeah efi
[13:58] <Abe> Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[13:58] <farooghkz> dumbo, i dont know. maybe cdrom cant read cd. why not using usb?
[13:59] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[13:59] <ikonia> jflkj: what ??
[13:59] <jflkj> ikonia: what it says
[13:59] <ikonia> jflkj: what are you talking about
[14:00] <dumbo_000> well i suppose it's efi
[14:00] <dumbo_000> i don't know for real
[14:00] <Abe> yes it is Efi your computer is a new one they all have EFI systems by now
[14:01] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[14:01] <jflkj> ikonia: about backing up files. I can't copy files owned by root if others don't have write access
[14:01] <dumbo_000> http://icecat.it/en/p/asus/90nb0658-m18500/notebooks-X554LA-XO1236D-27214044.html this is the laptop
[14:01] <ikonia> jflkj: there are no files in your home directory owned by root
[14:01] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  100% of windows equipped pcs are UEFI since windows 8,/2010
[14:02] <dumbo_000> i launched it uefi
[14:02] <dumbo_000> ubuntu 12.04
[14:02] <dumbo_000> 64 bit
[14:03] <dumbo_000> it's working!
[14:03] <Abe> dumbo_000: 12.04 does not support UEFI systems
[14:03] <dumbo_000> fuck i really don't know why
[14:03] <dumbo_000> what if i install it then?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> !language | dumbo_000
[14:03] <ikonia> dumbo_000: stop swearing
[14:03] <Abe> dumbo_000: 14.04 does support UEFI systems. Do not and I repeat install 12.04 on a Uefi System
[14:03] <dumbo_000> sorry.
[14:03] <jflkj> ikonia: are you trolling me?
[14:04] <ikonia> jflkj: no
[14:04] <ikonia> jflkj: I'm stating a fact
[14:04] <dumbo_000> ok then... so the last version of ubuntu supports uefi?
[14:04] <Abe> dumbo_000: Yes get 14.04! or newer
[14:05] <dumbo_000> 15.04?what do you suggest?
[14:05] <Abe> Do not install or try installing 12.04 on a Uefi system
[14:05] <BluesKaj> 15.10 is the latest
[14:05] <dumbo_000> what are main differences between 14.04 and 15.04 in your opinion
[14:05] <dumbo_000> yeah but .10 are not LTS
[14:05] <martien> Thanks for the information. I made the USB device bootable. I have to restart to check if i can install this version.
[14:05] <Abe> dumbo_000: I would recommend a Long Term Support release
[14:06] <BluesKaj> niether is 15.04
[14:06] <Abe> dumbo_000: which would be 14.04
[14:06] <dumbo_000> why not?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[14:06] <dumbo_000>  so 14.04
[14:06] <dumbo_000> is it good as 12.04?
[14:06] <Abe> dumbo_000: 15.04 is not a long term support release. 14.04 is supported until 2019
[14:07] <jflkj> ikonia: okay, from the start, I am booting from a liveusb running ubuntu 14.04 accessing a fully encrypted partition. I want to back everything up to move to debian but can't open some images on the partition if I'm not root
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !lts
[14:07] <cfhowlett> ubottu is in an eggnog coma ...
[14:07] <ikonia> jflkj: you shouldn't have files in your home directory owned by root
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hmm what's with the infobot
[14:07] <jflkj> I do ikonia
[14:08] <Abe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> ubottu has a Xmas hangover
[14:08] <ikonia> jflkj: then change the ownership
[14:08] <ikonia> jflkj: what is the full path of these files
[14:09] <dumbo_000> how to make a bootable 8gb flashdrive with ubuntu?
[14:09] <jflkj> ikonia: since I told you I'm booting from a liveusb it's /media/ubuntu/partition/home/user/images/file
[14:10] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you a native Windows user?
[14:10] <ikonia> jflkj: change the ownerchip then
[14:10] <ikonia> ownership
[14:10] <farooghkz> dumbo, with ubuntu?now u have ubuntu?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !usb | dumbo_000
[14:10] <dumbo_000> on this computer. but this is not mine
[14:11] <dumbo_000> w8 on this
[14:11] <jflkj> ikonia: my main priority is backing it up now, and I can do it as root
[14:12] <dumbo_000> oh fuck
[14:12] <hicken> rvgate: i have already creat .pub but now when i am trying to ssh " Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/hduser/.ssh/known_hosts). Permission denied (publickey)." the permition is  600 of each user
[14:12] <dumbo_000> i got gnu grub
[14:12] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  there's not much point if you can't use your own pc while people are giving you advice
[14:12] <dumbo_000> sorry for telling the wrong world with f. again
[14:13] <Abe> dumbo download 14.04 Burn it to DVD or make a bootable USB Stick, choose that (USB, DVD)as Boot Option in Uefi, install Ubuntu.
[14:14] <ikonia> jflkj: change the paermissions
[14:15] <Abe> Grub is the boot manager,
[14:16] <jflkj> ikonia: why change it if I can copy them as root, don't say "because they're not supposed to be root" or anything else that would waste bytes in irc logs please
[14:17] <ikonia> jflkj: because you're not supposed to and you're copying something with the wrong permisions
[14:17] <ikonia> fix it and copy it right
[14:17] <dumbo_000> no more freedos in here, no more gnu grub
[14:18] <dumbo_000> just a message: reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[14:18] <jflkj> ikonia: copying as root copies everything, correct?
[14:18] <dumbo_000> i suppose i made something wrong
[14:18] <Abe> dumbo_000: If you ask more specific people can give you more specific advise
[14:18] <dumbo_000> i'll solve on my own
[14:18] <ikonia> jflkj: no
[14:18] <dumbo_000> thank you for your help lol
[14:18] <ikonia> jflkj: being root has nothing to do with everything
[14:19] <dumbo_000> i abused too much of your patience
[14:25] <Abe> jflkj: why do you have this thing with root all the time?
[14:26] <Abe> good luck you all
[14:26] <jflkj> Abe: root has access over all my files and user doesn't for some randomly for various reasons
[14:26] <ikonia> so change the permissions
[14:26] <ikonia> stop making things worse by copying the files setup wrong
[14:27] <ikonia> sudo chown -R jflkj:jflk /home/jlfk
[14:27] <Abe> You could look into "chmod"
[14:28] <ikonia> why are you even doing this from a liveusb
[14:28] <jflkj> ikonia: I don't want user to be able to access some files
[14:28] <ikonia> just do this from your ubuntu install
[14:28] <ikonia> jflkj: you don't want a user to be able to access files in the users home directory - that is just wrong
[14:28] <ikonia> just doing things wrong and conform
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: if the user would be exploited I would have some files with root only write access
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: meaning they're not in danger
[14:30] <ikonia> jflkj: thats just silly
[14:30] <ikonia> jflkj: that is a terrible idea
[14:30] <Abe> actually only read sounds better to me
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: why
[14:31] <jflkj> Abe: thank you. finally someone gets it
[14:31] <ikonia> jflkj: because if the user was exploited they would have root access anyway
[14:31] <jflkj> ikonia: no
[14:31] <ikonia> and if they are protected files they should not be in the users home directory
[14:31] <Abe> jflkj: sorry I didn't
[14:31] <ikonia> fix your file permissions and move on
[14:32] <Abe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[14:33] <jflkj> ikonia: they wouldn't have root access if a user would be exploited, they can perfectly be protected from write while being root only for write
[14:33] <ikonia> no
[14:33] <ikonia> this is just bad
[14:34] <jflkj> why
[14:34] <ikonia> jflkj: a users home directory should not contain files owned by root
[14:34] <ikonia> if you want to do this - do it, but don't expect help from people
[14:34] <jflkj> ikonia: why not
[14:34] <ikonia> because you are making a problem with a bad idea
[14:34] <jflkj> ikonia: what is the problem
[14:35] <jflkj> ikonia: you're just saying "because it is"
[14:35] <ikonia> the fact that you need root access to access files in yoru users home directory
[14:35] <ikonia> and you end up with files with the wrong ownership
[14:35] <Abe> I never had Permission Problems in my /home directory... only if I had to mark them as executable
[14:35] <ikonia> if files need to be owned by root - they live outside the home directory
[14:36] <Abe> jflkj: listen to ikonia
[14:36] <jflkj> ikonia: they have group read access, they can perfectly be read by the user
[14:36] <ikonia> then why set them to be owned as root
[14:36] <ikonia> what value is that
[14:36] <ikonia> as the "compromised" user can read them
[14:36] <jflkj> ikonia: because they can't be deleted then
[14:37] <ikonia> who cares ???
[14:37] <ikonia> why would someone delete them
[14:37] <terrasapien> accidents happen
[14:37] <ikonia> terrasapien: by that logic ever file on the system should be owned as root
[14:38] <jflkj> ikonia: what terrasapien said, for very important files. plus, why would someone bomb a city?
[14:38] <jflkj> why would someone troll?
[14:38] <terrasapien> except the ones owned by user, yes of course
[14:38] <Abe> jflkj: do "sudo su" then "rm" the system files xD
[14:38] <ikonia> jflkj: don't be silly
[14:38] <ikonia> jflkj: you're making a problm where one doesn't exist
[14:38] <jflkj> thanks Abe will do
[14:38] <ikonia> terrasapien: right - these are USER files and he's setting them to be owned by root in the home dir
[14:39] <terrasapien> ikonia: well that is bizzare. i came late to the discussion
[14:39] <Abe> xD
[14:39] <ikonia> terrasapien: everyone things it's bizzare
[14:39] <terrasapien> yet bizzare is not necessarily "wrong"
[14:39] <ikonia> it is when you're locked out of those files and can't copy them as he is now
[14:40] <Abe> ikonia: was thats wrong?
[14:40] <ikonia> I've lost interest now
[14:40] <jflkj> ikonia: if I want a user to be able to read but not write to a file, how should I do this?
[14:40] <ikonia> jflkj: set the file system permissions to user read only
[14:41] <terrasapien> chmod 044 file ??
[14:41] <jflkj> right, why is it "wrong" in home?
[14:41] <ikonia> setting the permissions to read only is not wrong
[14:41] <ikonia> setting the owner to root is
[14:42] <ikonia> jflkj: do what you want - you'll just make a mess of your system,
[14:42] <terrasapien> ikonia: oh now I see the issue and agree with you
[14:42] <terrasapien> certainly NOT the best way to make files read only
[14:44] <morsnowski> isn't more a linux topic?
[14:44] <terrasapien> jflkj: go read man chattr
[14:44] <morsnowski> or did I miss the python implication
[14:44] <terrasapien> change file attributes gives you fine  levels of control over file permissions
[14:44] <craigbass76> Any GUVC users in here?  Trying to figur eout how to add captions to a live stream, and I'm either numbing it or it can't be done.
[14:45] <jflkj> anyways, my main issue is: I'm backing up files to move to debian. I've been told I should backup all kinds of folders and told I should backup home only
[14:45] <ikonia> jflkj: get on with it then
[14:45] <ikonia> you'll have to do it your own way
[14:45] <jflkj> ikonia: whatr
[14:45]  * morsnowski withdraws his last comment
[14:45] <ikonia> get on with backing up the files you'll want - you'll have to do it your own way
[14:46] <farooghkz> jfklj, u can copy, right?
[14:46] <morsnowski> of course these root owned files will make it a lot easier
[14:46] <jflkj> ikonia: I don't want to break my system but people are telling me all kinds of stuff what I can't and should do without giving reasons
[14:46] <ikonia> jflkj: they are giving reasons, you're just not interested and want to your own thing
[14:47] <jflkj> ikonia: what's 1 given reason? :s
[14:47] <ikonia> jflkj: read the back scroll
[14:47] <craigbass76> jflkj make suree you get it all (the dot directories)---  I'vehadbetter lucvk with rsync than just copying
[14:47] <ikonia> do not get the . directories
[14:48] <ikonia> a lot of them will configure components that are not the same in debian
[14:48] <ikonia> take only the files you want
[14:48] <craigbass76> why not?  What if he wnts his thunderbird profile?
[14:48] <ikonia> it depends on the file
[14:48] <ikonia> hence why I said take what you need, not the whole lot
[14:48] <terrasapien> but not all . dirs -- best to just hand pick the ones he wants
[14:49] <craigbass76> Oh.  I just grab them all and sort it out after
[14:49] <terrasapien> then wonder why your debian install is doing backflips and hiccups on speed
[14:51] <morsnowski> terrasapien: that's the fun part, I do it the same way as craigbass76
[14:52] <jflkj> so sudo chown -R jflkj:jflk /media/ubuntu/partition/home/jlfk ?
[14:53] <ikonia> no, as your on a live system
[14:53] <ikonia> so that user won't exist
[14:53] <ikonia> and not from your ubuntu install
[14:53] <ikonia> why are you doing this from a live system
[14:56] <jflkj> ikonia: I can't boot into the encrypted partition because of the recent bug with it where it's racing
[14:56] <ikonia> jflkj: a bug ?
[14:56] <ikonia> which bug ?
[14:56] <ikonia> whats the bug id
[14:56] <jflkj> ikonia: I'll try finding it
[14:56] <ikonia> that sounds very serious if it locks people out of their encypted disk
[14:57] <Abe> ikonia: you don't know that racing bug?
[14:57] <ikonia> no
[14:58] <Abe> xD
[15:01] <jflkj> ikonia: disconnected
[15:02] <jflkj> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536
[15:02] <jflkj> thus people can't easily patch it
[15:02] <ikonia> just having a read, not seen this
[15:03] <ikonia> jflkj: what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:03] <jflkj> ikonia: latest
[15:03] <ikonia> which one
[15:03] <Abe> hmm
[15:03] <Abe> this error will appear but the system will then proceed to boot successfully and have the encrypted volume successfully mounted.
[15:04] <jflkj> ikonia: 15.10 (latest)
[15:04] <Abe> you still get in jflkj
[15:04] <Abe> ?
[15:04] <jflkj> ikonia: my liveusb I'm on right now has 14.04
[15:05] <jflkj> Abe: yes, if booting from a liveusb and manually verifying the password in terminal
[15:06] <Abe> jflkj: I thought you were trying changing file permissions... sorry I think I missed the last part :/
[15:06] <ikonia> what an interesting bug I'd not seen that
[15:07] <ikonia> jflkj: if you do an ls -la against where your home directory is mounted on the livecd what do you get
[15:07] <ikonia> (can you show us in a pastebin please)
[15:07] <Abe> ikonia: do you type with ten fingers?
[15:08] <ikonia> yes
[15:08] <jflkj> lol abe
[15:08] <ikonia> (8)
[15:09] <jflkj> ikonia: could you clarify that question?
[15:09] <ikonia> could we please see "la -la" of where your home directory is mounted on the livecd please
[15:10] <Abe> ikonia: I wish I could do that
[15:10] <hicken_> I made a mistake and deleted the "known_hosts" file in ".ssh" folder! Now I can't pull
[15:11] <livcd> what do i put to sources.list to get xenial repo ?
[15:11] <ikonia> it will recreate
[15:11] <jflkj> ikonia: you want to see the content of /media/ubuntu/partition/home ?
[15:11] <ikonia> please
[15:11] <ikonia> ls -la
[15:11] <ikonia> the -la is key
[15:13] <jflkj> ikonia: this? :s
[15:13] <jflkj> http://pastebin.com/xLWtczsm
[15:14] <ikonia> jflkj: one level more in
[15:14] <ikonia> thats useful though, showing uid 1000:1000
[15:14] <jflkj> ikonia: like.. back?
[15:15] <ikonia> forward, "in" one level more
[15:15] <jflkj> ikonia: into jflkj ?
[15:15] <ikonia> yes
[15:16] <jflkj> ikonia: I feel kind of uncomfortable sharing all these things
[15:17] <jflkj> ikonia: what do you want to check?
[15:17] <ikonia> don't then
[15:17] <ikonia> lets leave it there
[15:18] <jflkj> ikonia: :/ don't be childing
[15:18] <jflkj> ikonia: :/ don't be childish*
[15:18] <ikonia> what ?
[15:19] <Abe> damn... I don't even get what u guys are even talkin about xD. I can help installing but this is to high for me
[15:19] <jflkj> ikonia: I'm kind of a private person
[15:19] <ikonia> thats fine, thats why I said don't share it and lets leave it ther
[15:19] <ikonia> there
[15:20] <jflkj> ikonia: will it still help if I remove the directory names?
[15:20] <livcd> i need to install a single package from Wily to my Vivid host
[15:20] <ikonia> jflkj: lets not bother any more, changing data is just going to give missleading info
[15:20] <livcd> What's the best way to do it without including the Wily's repos ?
[15:20] <ikonia> it's clear your embarrassed by what you have in your home directory, so lets not push the matter
[15:20] <ikonia> livcd: you should not do that at all
[15:21] <terrasapien> jflkj: try: find /home -perm 644 | wc -l
[15:21] <livcd> ikonia: i need a new version of Ruby
[15:21] <daftykins> Abe: hang around and you'll pick things up ; but yeah, dont try to help if you don't know :)
[15:21] <terrasapien> and then find /home -not -perm 644 | wc -l
[15:21] <jflkj> terrasapien: what does it do?
[15:21] <ikonia> terrasapien: I'm interested in the different uid's due to it running from a livecd,
[15:21] <ikonia> (well, I was interested)
[15:22] <Abe> daftykins: trying to :D
[15:22] <terrasapien> i'm just curious, maybe not quite so far as interested ;)
[15:22] <jflkj> ikonia: it's all root and 1000 1000
[15:23] <jflkj> you people are making me paranoid :P
[15:25] <daftykins> root isn't UID 1000?
[15:26] <ioria> 0
[15:26] <terrasapien> jflkj: find /home/ -not -user YOU | wc -l
[15:27] <terrasapien> and then fix everything with: find /home/ -not -user YOU -exec chown YOU:YOU {} \;
[15:28] <jflkj> terrasapien: you're just locating the user on the partition? (not the liveusb user)
[15:28] <ikonia> he can't do you:you
[15:28] <ikonia> he's on a livecd
[15:28] <ikonia> thats why you're seeing uid 1000
[15:28] <terrasapien> oh, i forgot, you're on liveCD . . . my bad
[15:29] <Iresf> hi everyone
[15:29] <Iresf> any know workin with selendroid in android-studio on ubuntu ?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !find android
[15:30] <daftykins> ioria: yeah i more meant it sounded like jflkj was saying it was :>
[15:30] <ioria> daftykins, ^_^
[15:36] <Mr_Fox> Hi All
[15:37] <Mr_Fox> Any body here ?
[15:38] <daftykins> yes
[15:38] <jflkj> ikonia: how do I back my files up from a liveusb then?
[15:38] <daftykins> Mr_Fox: ask a question, don't expect generic pleasantries ;)
[15:38] <ikonia> jflkj: ask someone else, it's clear you want to do it your own way and don't want to share information
[15:38] <ikonia> jflkj: anyone in the channel will help
[15:38] <daftykins> !pm | Mr_Fox
[15:39] <Mr_Fox> how are you daftykins ?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Mr_Fox  this is the support channel, not a 'how are you'-channel
[15:39] <Mr_Fox> ok sorry
[15:40] <Mr_Fox> I just want anyone to advice me which is best operation system and powerfull system sorry for bad english
[15:41] <Mr_Fox> it's just advice
[15:41] <daftykins> Mr_Fox: ask in #linux - this is the ubuntu channel.
[15:41] <daftykins> "best" is rubbish though
[15:41] <Mr_Fox> ok Thanks too much
[15:42] <jflkj> ikonia: I just don't want to share files which are named after people to protect their privacy. I'm happy to share information involving default files
[15:42] <ikonia> jflkj: ask the channel - not me, please.
[15:44] <jflkj> I want to backup files from ubuntu using a liveusb, I'm moving to debian. Which files should I backup and how can I do this from a liveusb?
[15:45] <daftykins> and store them where?
[15:45] <jflkj> daftykins: on an external disk
[15:45] <daftykins> so just copy the whole /home
[15:45] <daftykins> if your /home lives on its' own partition you don't even need to do this
[15:46] <jflkj> daftykins: it doesn't, I'm using full disk encryption
[15:46] <daftykins> good luck with that then
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  so safe, that you locked out yourself, so to say?
[15:47] <jflkj> MonkeyDust: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536 no, I mounted the partition
[15:47] <Ulised> hello, i've joined my sftp server once via my filemanager, and i told that remember forever my password, but now i want to change user and password but it wont prompt me the user and pass thing, how i can edit or remove that old user?
[15:48] <jflkj> daftykins: things like /var/ (16 gb) are useless while moving to debian?
[15:48] <daftykins> jflkj: yes.
[15:48] <daftykins> jflkj: like i already told you, /home is where user data lives - nothing else is needed
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  but you encrypted everything, not just /home?
[15:50] <jflkj> daftykins: what is a certain way to make sure the whole /home/ gets copied? there are things like rsync, cp, ...
[15:50] <ikonia> daftykins: he's missing key facts for you here
[15:50] <jflkj> MonkeyDust: the bug applies to full disk encryption
[15:50] <Abe> jflkj: I might not be able to help you *at all but can you still boot into your ubuntu partition like normal, and backup like all the files you want to keep onto a external harddrive?
[15:51] <ikonia> daftykins: 1.) he's moving to debian so a lot of the .config files will be a problem 2.) he's got files in his home directory owned by root for "security" ???
[15:51] <jflkj> abe no, I'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536
[15:52] <aotea> My GRUB menu lacks Memory Test, I only got options for two different Kernels and their Recovery modes.
[15:52] <OerHeks> jflkj, so if you cannot login, how would you backup your data?
[15:52] <Abe> jflkj: Yes I have read that. but it says this error will appear but the system will then proceed to boot successfully and have the encrypted volume successfully mounted.
[15:52] <jflkj> OerHeks: I mounted the partition through my liveusb
[15:53] <jflkj> Abe: it's a race bug, for some people it doesn't boot.
[15:53] <Abe> jflkj: Oh it doesn't boot
[15:53] <daftykins> ikonia: well we don't need to handle the other end 'restore' :)
[15:54] <daftykins> jflkj: lol files owned by root in home, are you nuts?
[15:54] <Abe> jflkj: Well I thought if it still boots, you could rescue your data... :/
[15:55] <jflkj> alright alright tell me how to make everything not owned by root  then :P
[15:55] <daftykins> super secure FDE, even the user can't get to it
[15:55] <jflkj> Abe: I can
[15:55] <daftykins> i think we're done here :)
[15:55] <terrasapien> if you can mount the partition in any way, you can restore your data
[15:55] <jflkj> daftykins: I already said I can
[15:55] <daftykins> i don't care too much, jflkj
[15:56] <jflkj> sorry I didn't mean to be rude
[15:56] <Abe> jflkj: you said "for some people it doesn't boot" does this apply to you?
[15:56] <jflkj> yes Abe
[15:56] <anabain> how can I add a new hdd in /media/folder through /etc/fstab ?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | anabain
[15:57] <Abe> jflkj: So basically you want to rescue your data from an encrypted hard drive you cannot access?
[15:57] <jflkj> no Abe
[15:57] <Abe> jflkj: You cannot access it like normal <---
[15:58] <jflkj> yes
[15:58] <Abe> jflkj: Ah I get your hole problem now, and I was thinking all the time what you want
[15:59] <OerHeks> jflkj, so your partitions are mounted but not unencrypted?
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: I unencrypted them
[16:00] <Abe> Well my HDD is also encrypted, If I wouldn't be able to access it on "regular" boot (not live CD) I would have a Problem
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: I just need to back up home
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: from a liveusb
[16:00] <ikonia> just copy the files
[16:00] <OerHeks> jflkj, oh great, backup your data then, not sure why you come up with a bugreport that does not apply to your situation.
[16:00] <ikonia> how hard is this to grasp
[16:01] <OerHeks> putting us on the wrong lane ..
[16:02] <Abe> ikonia: did I understand this right?
[16:02] <jflkj> abe you can just use sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdax /sda
[16:03] <jflkj> OerHeks: people were asking me why I was using a liveusb, I simply responded
[16:06] <jflkj> ikonia: when I try rsync fromdir todir it says skipping directory .
[16:06] <Abe> jflkj: If you are not able to boot into your PC, like you always would (Not from Live CD) I cannot help. and like all the guys that answered you with "good luck" etc, that are way more experienced then I am. talking to me doesn't make much sense then
[16:07] <Abe> makes not*
[16:07] <terrasapien> jflkj: unless you tell the channel your specific command, and then coherently describe the results, you might get some quality help
[16:07] <EriC^^> jflkj: what's the problem buddy?
[16:08] <terrasapien> garbage in gabage out, you know the routine
[16:08] <Abe> oh i had it right the first time sorry
[16:08] <ren0v0> Hi, my ethernet keeps taking itself down in the last few weeks. I'm assuming it could be related to a kernel update, can anyone help me debug ?
[16:09] <ren0v0> lspci tells me this  >    Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411
[16:10] <jflkj> terrasapien: # rsync /media/ubuntu/partition/home/ /media/ubuntu/partition/backup/ skipping directory .
[16:10] <jflkj> EriC^^: I'm trying to backup files from a liveusb (I can access my encrypted drive)
[16:10] <terrasapien> jflkj: put a -var after the word rsync and see if that helps
[16:10] <EriC^^> jflkj: ok, so it's decrypted and mounted?
[16:11] <jflkj> yes EriC^^
[16:11] <EriC^^> rsync -Pvr /path/to/files /path/to/destination
[16:12] <jflkj> EriC^^: terrasapien what should I do now? -var or -vPr?
[16:13] <MikeRL> Got a slight issue here. I had some issues with a previously behaving swap partition 16GB in size, and so I booted into a Live CD and deleted it and recreated it, toggling the swap off and on as needed.
[16:13] <terrasapien> jflkj: do you have any dice handy?
[16:13] <MikeRL> But now boot time has increased quite a bit. On a recent install on a quick, new laptop.
[16:14] <compdoc> youre showing there's swap available?
[16:14] <jflkj> terrasapien: I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. just hearing all kinds of things from different people
[16:14] <jflkj> terrasapien: what's the difference between -a and -P on rsync?
[16:14] <terrasapien> jflkj: try one, then if you don't like the results remove what was copied and try the other
[16:14] <compdoc> MikeRL, what issue did you have before you deleted the old one?
[16:14] <MikeRL> Uh oh. I think I have a bot trying to religiously convert me.
[16:15] <MikeRL> I'm getting a zillion messages talking about Islam. Too bad I'm an atheist.
[16:15] <ren0v0> If anyone has time, here is an additional paste from syslog for my issue described above  http://pastebin.com/vpfzQEST
[16:15] <head8debian> MikeRL: Just ignore them.
[16:15] <compdoc> MikeRL doesnt mean Mike Religious Left?
[16:15] <jflkj> MikeRL: salam
[16:15] <MikeRL> It was a million messages, though.
[16:16] <compdoc> MikeRL, what issue did you have before you deleted the old one?
[16:16] <OerHeks> MikeRL, report in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:16] <MikeRL> And because of my settings, it kept beeping and notifying me.
[16:16] <MikeRL> Hundereds of PMs.
[16:16] <MikeRL> What a relief, it looks to be over. I despise unsolicited messages.
[16:17] <MikeRL> It was some user nev_er.
[16:17] <EriC^^> this isn't oprah
[16:19] <MikeRL> My original issue before that mass PMing was that my boot was slowed down.
[16:19] <MikeRL> I suspect it is related to Ubuntu looking for an old swap partition I deleted and recreated.
[16:20] <EriC^^> MikeRL: type cat /etc/fstab | nc openterm.tk 9
[16:20] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[16:23] <compdoc> MikeRL, it was a decent sized swap before you deleted it, and no reason to think it would slow your boot.
[16:23] <MikeRL> Something is slowing my boot, though, and I need to know what.
[16:23] <MikeRL> Any way to tell?
[16:23] <ikonia> remove the boot splash
[16:23] <ikonia> watch it boot
[16:23] <compdoc> is it an hard drive or ssd?
[16:23] <ikonia> most likley dhcp waiting for an address is the common cause
[16:23] <OerHeks> install bootchart, to see the timing
[16:24] <EriC^^> he said he changed his swap
[16:24] <ikonia> just remove the boot splash and watch, you'll see what's slow to response
[16:24] <ikonia> ahhh it will be a bad mount timing out then
[16:24] <ikonia> respond
[16:24] <EriC^^> pastebin /etc/fstab and sudo blkid
[16:24] <Gallomimia> swap off. favorite kind of swap
[16:24] <ikonia> isn't there a bug on encypted swap
[16:24] <compdoc> MikeRL, you should first check the SMART info from the drive(s)
[16:24] <MikeRL> I have an SSD.
[16:24] <compdoc> you need to know if its failing
[16:24] <MikeRL> It's not a HD.
[16:25] <compdoc> well, good chance no bad sectors then, but it can happen
[16:25] <compdoc> nm
[16:25] <MikeRL> I'll check regardless.
[16:25] <MikeRL> Better not be - this SSD isn't even a few months old.
[16:25] <EriC^^> :D
[16:25] <MikeRL> And it was a high end one.
[16:28] <MikeRL> Checking the SSD via Gsmartcontrol. Initial tests show a pass.
[16:28] <MikeRL> Now running short and extended tests.
[16:28] <EriC^^> MikeRL: check /etc/fstab
[16:28] <MikeRL> But this seems like a Linux specific issue. Windows 10 has no issues thus far.
[16:28] <MikeRL> And Pastebin it?
[16:28] <MikeRL> Sure.
[16:28] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:28] <EriC^^> are you being sarcastic?
[16:29] <MikeRL> I know a lot of Muslims by the way, and none of them would write a spam bot like that.
[16:29] <jflkj> the rsync -var thingy will take a few days so I hope that's the right thing
[16:29] <Gallomimia> whats a spambot?
[16:29] <MikeRL> I gotta admit, that's pretty creative and modern. It's like a 21st century digital mass conversion.
[16:29] <OerHeks> MikeRL, report it in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:29] <MikeRL> I already reported it to #ubuntu-ops.
[16:29] <MikeRL> Otherwise I wouldn't talk about it here.
[16:29] <EriC^^> MikeRL: i dont really care, not muslim myself and i wasn't offended by the rant, i was j/k
[16:30] <MikeRL> I just find it one of the more interesting spam bots I've seen.
[16:30] <MikeRL> Anyhow, I'll pastebin /etc/fstab.
[16:31] <MikeRL> Doing an extended test as well.
[16:33] <MikeRL> Forgot my pastebin account info. It will be two minutes.
[16:42] <daftykins> plenty of no-reg sites such as http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:43] <TrivialGravitas> pastebin is no-reg, if he's registering its so he can pull it down later
[16:44] <cyber37> Hi what is the command for change to the Right / Left desktop in the last ubuntu ? wmctrl seems not work with that interface
[16:45] <daftykins> TrivialGravitas: yes i know the common reasons
[16:45] <cyber37> It was workign well with "gnome-session-fallback" (so the more older interface) but with the newer it doesn't switch
[16:45] <cyber37> Any idea about witch command i can use ?
[16:46] <dontknow> cyber37, ctrl+alt left
[16:46] <dontknow> i guess
[16:46] <cyber37> in command line :S
[16:47] <cyber37> Ok i will explain : I need to set "Go to the right / left desktop" command when i press the button 8 or 9 of my mouse.
[16:47] <cyber37> In the shortcuts of ubuntu, mouse button doesn't work
[16:47] <cyber37> So i use xbindkeys wiitch work well !!
[16:48] <cyber37> But . with the newer version of interface wmctrl (command used for change desktop)
[16:48] <cyber37> doesn't work goodly
[16:48] <cyber37> wmctrl -d for exemple return only 1 workspace and i have 5 workspace
[16:49] <cyber37> is there another tool or command line for switch to a specific desktop or next / prev/ right / left / up / down
[16:49] <cyber37> ?
[16:50] <daftykins> doesn't the unity tweak tool have some controls over that sort of thing? total guess.
[16:51] <cyber37> it have shortcuts in preference > keyboard
[16:51] <MWM> my install is borked!  "Welcome to emergency mode!....."  I had no idea why either.   just did a software update and restarted.
[16:52] <cyber37> But it work only with keyboard shortcuts
[16:52] <cyber37> I want to do a shortcut with my mouse.
[16:52] <cyber37> i just need the good command to call for switch to X desktop
[16:52] <HackerII> cyber37,  use veiwportswitcher
[16:52] <HackerII> in compiz settings
[16:54] <MWM> fresh install of Lubuntu 15.10 BTW
[16:54] <cyber37> yep, i don't understand why it also don't work , did we have to enable/disable compiz somewhere ?
[16:54] <HackerII> cyber37,  compiz --replace
[16:54] <cyber37> thanks i try
[16:55] <HackerII> put that command in startup
[16:55] <ioria> MWM, you did a do-release-upgrade ?
[16:55] <MWM> 2 errors before the "systemctl" :  1) radeon 000:01:00.0:  Invalid ROM contents and 2) Unrecognized mount option "0" or missing value
[16:55] <daftykins> try booting with nomodeset, MWM
[16:56] <MWM> ioria:  I got a notigfication in the system tray that there was software to update.  Clicked on "update" and then restarted.\
[16:56] <daftykins> also what's with you and a million OS installs in the last week? :)
[16:56] <MWM> daftykins:  A fresh install is my go to move because I dont know ho w to fix stuff :)
[16:56] <daftykins> you won't learn, doing that.
[16:57] <ioria> MWM, if you can enter Grub  (press shift), you can boot with the 'nomodeset' parameter ....
[16:57] <MikeRL> Agh. Pastebin is acting up. I have to wait five minutes to login. For some reason, they sent me two password reset new passwords.
[16:57] <MWM> youve got no idea how much I needed to learn though.  Walk before you can run and all that :)
[16:58] <MikeRL> I'm just going to use Dropbox.
[16:58] <MikeRL> Those paste sites always have issues.
[16:58] <ioria> MWM, choose Advanced Options
[16:59] <MikeRL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232031/
[16:59] <MWM> Ive been dropped to a root shell.  promt is root@localmachine
[16:59] <MikeRL> I'd rather use Ubuntu's paste site.
[16:59] <ioria> MWM, you did Recovery ?
[16:59] <MikeRL> EriC^^, are you still there? I just made the paste.
[16:59] <MikeRL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232031/
[17:00] <MWM> iora: no ... thats where I boot to
[17:00] <topi`> I have Trusty, how can I upgrade python3.4.0 to a bugfixed one, like python3.4.2 ?
[17:00] <topi`> it seems python 3.4.0 is the newest there is for Trusty...
[17:00] <ioria> MWM,  try some commands .... cat /etc/issue
[17:00] <ikonia> topi`: bug fixes are back ported
[17:01] <topi`> ikonia: ok, so should I install a "backports" entry to etc/apt/sources ?
[17:01] <ikonia> topi`: no
[17:01] <ikonia> topi`: do you have a problem with your current version
[17:02] <topi`> yes, 3.4.0 is buggy and doesn't contain the fixes, my other systems (on debian/stable) have 3.4.2
[17:02] <ikonia> topi`: are you told it's buggy, or are you actually having problems
[17:02] <MWM> iora:  rebooted to recovery.  <shutdown -r now> then chose advanced as you suggested
[17:02] <MWM> update grub bootloader?
[17:03] <ioria> MWM,  no....
[17:03] <MWM> FYI though, lsblk worked in that promps.I could also view the fstab with nano
[17:03] <MWM> *prompt
[17:05] <ioria> MWM,  well, i asked you   cat /etc/issue .... but nvm  ...   you have to edit the kernel boot line ... reboot -> shift -> Advanced Option -> then find the words 'quite splash' and add 'nomodeset'
[17:05] <ren0v0> can someone please help with this?
[17:05] <ren0v0> hmm my paste went
[17:06] <ren0v0> http://pastebin.com/vpfzQEST
[17:07] <MWM> iora: sorry I was kind of panicking so I jumped back to the last thing you said before I saw what you had asked.
[17:07] <daftykins> MWM: nothing of what you're saying has any relevance to your situation.
[17:07] <daftykins> you're just rattling off a list of useless things you've learnt
[17:07] <benos> Hello
[17:07] <ren0v0> i've tried changing module from 8168 to 8169, newest from realtek website
[17:07] <MikeRL> Still here as well. If anyone wants to look into my issue when they have a moment, let me know.
[17:08] <MWM> Shift _> advacned brings me to a screen with a GNU GRUB title and 4 different options (2 are Ubuntu recovery mode)
[17:08] <benos> Is there a hotkey to go back one folder in the Ubuntu Desktop? ?
[17:08] <MikeRL> I got hung up remembering my password for Pastebin until I said screw it and used paste.ubuntu.com.
[17:08] <ioria> ren0v0, can you post sudo lshw -c Network ?
[17:08] <MikeRL> You mean up a directory or back to the last entry?
[17:08] <benos> A directory :)
[17:08] <cyber37> Hi hacker are you steel here ?
[17:08] <MikeRL> Try ALT+Leftarrow or ALT+Uparrow.
[17:09] <ren0v0> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232138/
[17:09] <ioria> MWM,  true .... look at the bottom of the screen ... you'll find directives ... press 'e' ot tab to edit the line
[17:09] <cyber37> So, doing the switch with compiz viewport works, when i press the buton 8 of my mouse it switch to the next desktop .. (yeah .. ) but no. It work only if you doesn't have the focus on an application
[17:09] <benos> Worked, thanks!
[17:09] <cyber37> So if i have an application full screen in all desktop then the shortcut doesn't work
[17:10] <MikeRL> NP.
[17:10] <cyber37> So now i ask the first question: Is there a command line for switch to the next/prev desktop in the new ubuntu interface ?
[17:10] <cyber37> In the past i was using wmctrl but now he seems don't work (he see no workspaces)*
[17:10] <ren0v0> cyber37, alt + tab
[17:11] <cyber37> :S
[17:11] <ren0v0> i hink
[17:11] <cyber37> I neeed a command line
[17:11] <xangua> cyber37: if you hold the super key a few seconds, you can see all unity shortcuts
[17:11] <MikeRL> Now I just need to get a detailed boot output, and we can go from there. I'm going to Google it first.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> cyber37  xdotool, maybe ... i'm reading the man page
[17:12] <cyber37> i need a commandline because we can't modify this shortcuts for set MOUSE SHORTCUTS, so i need to use XBINDKEYS like i do in the past
[17:12] <cyber37> But i need the command line for switch to next / prev desktop
[17:12] <ren0v0> cyber37, are you talking about workspaces?
[17:12] <ioria> ren0v0, cat /etc/issue
[17:12] <ren0v0> ioria, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:12] <ioria> ren0v0, and ethernet connection not working ?
[17:13] <ren0v0> ioria, its dropping and coming back up all the time
[17:13] <ren0v0> my paste shows that from syslog
[17:13] <MikeRL> I figured it out with some searching. Now updating grub and rebooting.
[17:13] <cyber37> Yes
[17:13] <MikeRL> I'll be back later if I'm confused on what to do next.
[17:14] <ioria> ren0v0, are you upgraded ?
[17:14] <cyber37> i speak about workspace
[17:14] <ren0v0> ioria, yup
[17:14] <MWM> "recovery nomodeset" is listed.  "quite splash" is not
[17:14] <MWM> incase it was a typo, "quit splash" does not exist either
[17:14] <ren0v0> ioria, from the paste  >   <info> (eth0): device state change: activated -> unavailable (reason 'carrier-changed') [100 20 40]
[17:15] <ren0v0> keeps dropping and showing stuff like this
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> cyber37  'xdotool'
[17:15] <cyber37> Monkeydust with set_desktop / get_desktop ? if yes it doesnt work
[17:15] <HackerII> cyber37,  also try ctrl + alt + tab  use arrow  to seek
[17:16] <MWM> I can see from askubuntu that its "quiet splash" but I also do not have that list
[17:16] <ren0v0> MWM, what are you talking about doesn't exist? i haven't checked the full scroll but i assume you've been told to add these to boot options?
[17:16] <cyber37> MonkeyDust xdootools with get_desktop ? it always return 0 in every workspace
[17:16] <ren0v0> hold shift at boot, in grub press "e" to edit the boot line if i remember correctly
[17:17] <MWM> ren0v0: yes sir.  My boot options doent contain that entry however
[17:17] <MikeRL> Think I found the source of the issues.
[17:17] <ren0v0> MWM, you add them yourself, as i say, by pressing "e" for edit
[17:17] <MikeRL> There's this one boot task that looks related to swap and encryption. My home folder is encrypted. It adds a minute or so to every boot.
[17:18] <ren0v0> if the options resolve whatever you're trying to fix, you can then look into adding a permanant entry
[17:18] <MikeRL> It said /dev/mapper or something. And there was another one mentioning a UUID.
[17:18] <cyber37> Holy sh*t !!!! With xdotool i can get an informationa bout the workspace but it sucska  bit :D
[17:18] <cyber37> xdotool get_desktop_viewport
[17:18] <MikeRL> I imagine it's related to the swap and encryption.
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> cyber37  mind your language
[17:18] <cyber37> it return 0, 1920, 1920 *2 .. :D
 MWM,  well, i asked you   cat /etc/issue .... but nvm  ...   you have to edit the kernel boot line ... reboot -> shift -> Advanced Option -> then find the words 'quite splash' and add 'nomodeset'
[17:19] <MikeRL> So, is there any way to get a log of output during boot that includes these boot tasks that are causing hang?
[17:19] <ioria2> MWM, doesn't work ?
[17:19] <MWM> that is the instruction I am trying to follow:  however the "quiet splash" entry does not exist and nomodeset is already there
[17:19] <ren0v0> MWM, so add it, doesn't matter if quiet spash aren't there just add it to the end
[17:19] <MikeRL> Let me Google before continuing.
[17:20] <ioria2> MWM, i missed  the 'e' part ...   look at the bottomof your screen
[17:20] <cyber37> xdotool set_desktop_viewport 1920 0 ---->>> IT WORK !! But we have to count in 1920 ratio :D
[17:20] <cyber37> MonkeyDust you was speaking about this parameter ? or is there another better ?
[17:20] <MikeRL> Hmm. sudo blkid gives a different swap ID then the one in fstab.
[17:20] <ren0v0> ioria2, from my paste, if i've added the latest driver to kernel would you assume its not driver related at all? :S maybe its something as basic as a cable issue
[17:21] <MWM> guys I dont want to mess this part up so Im going to type this in a paste by hand and bring the link.  thanks for your help so far.  Ill be back in a few minutes
[17:21] <MikeRL> Should I change the one in fstab to match the command output?
[17:21] <ioria2> ren0v0, do you have linux-firmware installed ? dpkg -l | grep linux-firmware*
[17:21] <MikeRL> That would likely resolve the error, wouldn't it?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> cyber37  not sure... it does what you want?
[17:21] <cyber37> MonkeyDust It will not be so hard to script but it s*ck a bit like that, if there is another way i can try, else it will be fine:)
[17:21] <ren0v0> ioria2, yes
[17:21] <ren0v0> ioria2, version >  1.127.19
[17:21] <cyber37> MonkeyDust it can do the job :)
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> cyber37  ok, but don't be so rude with your language
[17:21] <cyber37> ok sorry,
[17:22] <cyber37> I try to script it, (not realy difficult :D, i come back
[17:22] <topi`> a-ha, there *is* a trusty-backports but I just need to manually add it to my /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:22] <ioria2> ren0v0, as far as i know you miss this part 'firmware=rtl8168e-3_0.0.4 03/27/12'  in lshw -c network
[17:23] <MikeRL> What does "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" mean, anyhow?
[17:23] <MikeRL> Should I be concerned about changing that as well since I reformatted my swap?
[17:23] <ioria2> ren0v0, you loaded  manually a module ?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> mapper means it's LVM, iirc
[17:24] <ren0v0> ioria2, yes, trying to fix it myself i compiled 8168 from realtek website
[17:24] <MikeRL> And I do I have to update fstab with a command?
[17:24] <ren0v0> ioria2, it's no different
[17:24] <ren0v0> ioria2, previously it was using 8169 for some reason
[17:24] <MikeRL> I changed the fstab file's UUID for the swap to match the output of the same partition for the output of "sudo blkid".
[17:25] <ioria2> ren0v0, no.... i have too RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet and the driver is driver=r8169
[17:25] <dontknow> MikeRL, it is encrypted swap
[17:25] <ioria2> ren0v0, right , and it works well
[17:25] <MikeRL> Yeah. I wonder if changing that one file fixed things, or if I have to do more.
[17:25] <ren0v0> ioria2, well in that case as we assuming its not driver related? Do you have my original syslog paste of it dropping and coming back up over and over ?
[17:25] <MikeRL> Maybe I should reboot and rerun encryption setup on that swap file.
[17:26] <MikeRL> Is there any command for that?
[17:26] <MikeRL> I setup my encryption during Ubuntu's setup, by the way. 15.10.
[17:26] <ren0v0> MikeRL, do you have SSD?
[17:26] <MikeRL> Yep.
[17:26] <ren0v0> probably should look at SSD/swap/encryption
[17:26] <ren0v0> and reinstall without swap if you have a ton of RAM
[17:27] <MikeRL> Well, I don't want to reformat.
[17:27] <MikeRL> I can do commands.
[17:27] <ren0v0> MikeRL, sorry i haven't read your whole issue, just know they aren't good for the drive etc etc
[17:27] <ren0v0> something about "trim"
[17:27] <ren0v0> when i was reading some time ago
[17:28] <MikeRL> What? Encryption? Of course it increases read and write cycles.
[17:28] <ren0v0> maybe its related, maybe it has nthing to do with things :)
[17:28] <ioria> ren0v0, why don't you try to reverse the changes you did , restoring defaults ?
[17:28] <MikeRL> Well, I can disable encryption, but first, the issue needs to be tended to.
[17:28] <Gallomimia> reinstall without swap? swap can be easily turned off if you dont need it
[17:28] <ren0v0> ioria, because the issue was before i loaded the module, trying latest driver was my attempt to rule out kernel default driver issue
[17:28] <ren0v0> MikeRL, TLDR the issue
[17:29] <MikeRL> I found a useful link.
[17:29] <MikeRL> https://www.logilab.org/blogentry/29155
[17:29] <ioria> ren0v0, now you are on r8168  , the default is r8169 .....
[17:29] <Gallomimia> ren0v0: iirc delayed boot for unknown reasons, theory is its a failure in encrypted swap
[17:30] <ioria> ren0v0, how can be the latest ?
[17:30] <RobbieL811> Any scripters around in here that might be able to lend me a hand?
[17:30] <ren0v0> ioria, huh, thats a model number is it not?
[17:30] <ren0v0> ioria, the driver i got from realtek website for 8168, which was published only a few weeks ag
[17:30] <ioria> ren0v0, no, it's the driver
[17:30] <MikeRL> Using my head now. I may make it pretty far without help. It remains to be seen.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> RobbieL811  just ask, don't ask to ask ... and there's also #bash
[17:31] <ioria> ren0v0, r8168/9    it's the module
[17:31] <daftykins> RobbieL811: take it to a relevant channel
[17:31] <ren0v0> ioria, and its "not" the version
[17:31] <ren0v0> so i'm not sure what you're on about
[17:31] <ren0v0> ioria, this driver i compiled  >    8.041	2015/12/8
[17:32] <MWM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232358/  <-- is what Im looking at.  It just doesnt quite looks like what you are talking about so I was hoping you guys could take a look
[17:32] <MWM> please forgive the spelling erros, I did have to type it by hand
[17:32] <ren0v0> MWM, where did you get that from ?
[17:32] <ren0v0> o right you typed it ok
[17:33] <ren0v0> pretty sure that boot line is usually on a single line, but its been a while
[17:33] <ren0v0> if nomodeset is there and you boot with "x" or whatever it is, then i assume its not fixed whatever your issue is
[17:33] <daftykins> MWM: we're asking you to ADD it, so it won't be there!
[17:33] <daftykins> jeez man
[17:33] <daftykins> !nomodeset | MWM
[17:33] <MWM> shift -> advanced -> GNU Grub screen...press 'e at the bottom
[17:34] <ioria> ren0v0,  but with that driver , it's working better ?
[17:34] <ren0v0> ioria, its the same across both, as i said :)
[17:34] <MWM> wait... is there supposed to be a back kick before the e... sorry
[17:34] <ren0v0> ioria, to be fair its been about 15minutes stable, but i do assume it'll happen again
[17:34] <ren0v0> daftykins, what are you telling him, it is there, did you not read his paste?
[17:34] <ioria> ren0v0, so not useful ... i'd reverse it :(
[17:35] <ren0v0> ioria, ok whatever, but that doesn't help :)
[17:35] <daftykins> ren0v0: that's a recovery boot mode which isn't relevant to this query.
[17:36] <ren0v0> daftykins, ah, i said i thought it didn't look right :)
[17:36] <ioria> MWM, you highlight the first kernel  string you see in Advanced ... don't choose recovery
[17:36] <ren0v0> ioria, i did already ask, that if i've tried a newer driver and it doesn't make a difference, what would be the next place to check
[17:36] <daftykins> quite honestly MWM has this entire task backwards and i'm not sure what it's going to take to snap out of it ;)
[17:38] <ioria> ren0v0, once reversed,  post again sudo lshw -c Network
[17:38] <MWM> thank you iora2 glad you knew what was going on there! :)  now just add "nomodeset" after quietsplash?
[17:38] <ioria> yesssssssssssssss
[17:39] <ren0v0> ioria, whats the correct way to load module using modprobe?
[17:39] <ioria> insmode
[17:39] <ren0v0> i'm getting "module not found" for 8169
[17:39] <RobbieL811> MonkeyDust, Lol.  Ok.  Here goes.  This is the script I'm using to connect to my .ovpn files.  I'm trying to incorporate a detached screen into this.  I want to be able to run the script and have it start in a detached screen.  Currently, I'm having to run "screen -S vpn" before I run my script.  Here is the script.  Any advice on how to make it run in a detached screen?  http://pastebin.com/SfSJJjEC
[17:40] <ioria> ren0v0, locate r8169
[17:40] <ren0v0> ioria, so i can just rename it right?
[17:40] <ren0v0> no need to use modprobe
[17:40] <ioria> ren0v0, locate r8169
[17:40] <ren0v0> i have
[17:41] <ioria> ren0v0, can you paste ?
[17:41] <ren0v0> its .bak
[17:41] <ren0v0> i'm asking if simply changing to .ko is enough
[17:41] <MWM> nomodeset added.
[17:41] <MWM> boot?
[17:41] <ioria> rebbot f10
[17:42] <ioria> or ctrl+x
[17:44] <ren0v0> ioria,  /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169.ko      >>>  sudo modprobe r8169          modprobe: FATAL: Module r8169 not found.
[17:44] <MWM> is it going to take a little while to boot or has it hung itself up?
[17:45] <ioria> ren0v0, can you paste locate r8169 ?
[17:45] <ren0v0> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232517/
[17:45] <cyber37> MonkeyDust http://pastebin.com/e9sdLTNx  Thanks, xdotool has work perfectly my scripts are done :)
[17:46] <cyber37> If i want i can o it betterly by getting the 1920 dynamicly
[17:46] <cyber37> but no time now, it do the job thanks
[17:46] <Dr-007> if i install ubuntu and windows on two different bootable partitions. can i then install vmware/virtualbox/something else inside windows and run the bootable ubuntu partition?
[17:47] <benjick> Hey. I'm trying to unpack an archive but I keep losing the dotfiles. This is the command I'm running: tar -xzf grav.tar.gz -C /var/www/html
[17:47] <benjick> How can I keep the .htaccess etc?
[17:47] <ioria> ren0v0, how did you compile the new module ? conf, make , make install ? maybe  you have a make unistall flag
[17:48] <ren0v0> ioria, what does that have to do with   "modprobe: FATAL: Module r8169 not found."  ?
[17:48] <MWM> boot has officially hung. adding nomodeset didnt do anything but show me a screen that says it is booting a command list
[17:48] <ioria> ren0v0, idk ... taking time ...
[17:48] <ren0v0> ioria,  i can remove the module i compiled with "modprobe -r r8168"
[17:49] <ren0v0> benjick, that doesn't make sense :D  how do you know you are losing them?
[17:49] <ren0v0> are you doing "ls -lash" ?
[17:49] <ren0v0> or just "ls" ?
[17:51] <haskel> Is there a way to "freeze up" ubuntu, I want to write a script that forces me to take breaks from the computer
[17:52] <daftykins> Dr-007: some virt software allows running from a native disk instead of an image file, there's no benefit to your plan though
[17:52] <haskel> i.e. a way to disable the keyboard and mouse for 15 mins or so
[17:52] <ioria> ren0v0, ok... the script of the driver renames the module r8169.ko to r8169.bak. ....
[17:52] <ren0v0> ioria, right?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> haskel  with RTCwake you can suspend the machine for as long as you specify
[17:53] <ioria> ren0v0, i think so
[17:53] <ren0v0> ioria, i don't see your point
[17:53] <OerHeks> haskel, ctrl alt L
[17:53] <benjick> ren0v0: if i unpack them on my mac they are there, but when i unpack them in docker they aren't there
[17:53] <benjick> (with that command)
[17:53] <ren0v0> ioria, i'm getting the impression you're not reading most of my responses/pastes, because if you did you'll see that i renamed it back already :S
[17:54] <ioria> ren0v0, i wanted to be sure ...
[17:54] <ren0v0> benjick, "they aren't there", you didn't answer how you was checking
[17:54] <benjick> ls -la in bash
[17:54] <benjick> Sorry
[17:55] <ren0v0> benjick, unpack in docker?
[17:55] <ren0v0> as in an ubuntu docker image ?
[17:55] <benjick> I run that command in inside a docker container running ubuntu
[17:55] <benjick> the tar-command
[17:55] <benjick> And when I do ls -la there are no dotfiles
[17:55] <ioria> ren0v0,  they say to run sudo ./autogen.sh in the driver folder ... but i have never done that
[17:56] <benjick> But if I unpack it on my mac with whatever is builtin I can see the files with ls -la
[17:56] <ren0v0> benjick, then i would head over to there and ask, or speak with the image maintainer, there is no issue with the command that i can see
[17:56] <ren0v0> benjick, try a normal ubuntu install, or use LXC/LXD because docker sucks
[17:57] <ren0v0> ioria, yea thats what i did to install the driver, but we're talking about adding r8169 back right? :D
[17:57] <MWM> cat /etc/issue lists: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[17:58] <ioria> ren0v0, where did you get that driver exactly ?
[17:59] <MWM> ren0v0: r8196 is broken for newer ubuntu.  only use r8168
[17:59] <benjick> ren0v0: Thanks.
[17:59] <ren0v0> ioria, realtek website
[17:59] <benjick> ren0v0: Why does docker suck?
[18:00] <ren0v0> benjick, i just have something against the way its marketed, single process containers weren't any good for me, and the docs and any marketing stuff or CTO videos etc neglect this fact
[18:00] <ren0v0> it may be great for your use case
[18:01] <ren0v0> MWM, i'm on 14.04, but thats an interesting statement
[18:01] <ioria> ren0v0, this http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/searchView.aspx?keyword=r8168 ?
[18:02] <MWM> ren0v0 I went through this when I switched boards.  I am looking for the pagges I read to give you the word from the "horses mouth" but I know you have to switch to r8168...I couldnt get it to survive a reboot however and just bought a USB3 adapter
[18:02] <ren0v0> ioria,  http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Langid=1&Level=5&PFid=5&PNid=13
[18:02] <ren0v0> ioria, as things go it hasn't dropped now for quite a while, but it did a few times in the first 5 minutes i switched to it
[18:03] <ren0v0> not sure if that means anything, maybe there is an issue in fact with 8169
[18:03] <MWM> https://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[18:03] <ren0v0> ioria, the question really is why is this driver chosen in the first place, if its not the latest and not even the right model
[18:03] <ioria> ren0v0, i'm using r8169 with no issue
[18:03] <ren0v0> ioria, so was i until a week ago
[18:03] <ren0v0> i've been on 14.04 since release with no issues
[18:03] <ren0v0> maybe a kernel update borked something
[18:04] <MWM> ^ this fix worked for me... but wouldnt stay working.  WHen I rebooted I had the r8169 beck in place.  I never did get it working properly
[18:04] <ioria> ren0v0, and now ... are you 15.10 ?
[18:04] <haskel> OerHeks, I can just log back in lol, I need to force myself to not work
[18:04] <ren0v0> ioria, no 14.04 ...
[18:04] <ren0v0> ioria, seriously its like you have selective reading lol
[18:05] <ioria> ren0v0, me too ...
[18:05] <ren0v0> what kernel you on?
[18:05] <ren0v0> 3.19.0-25-generic  here
[18:05] <daftykins> MWM: you had to blacklist it most likely.
[18:05] <daftykins> to load another module
[18:05] <ioria> ren0v0, the utopic enab. stack .... you have the vivid one , i think
[18:06] <ren0v0> ioria, so your point doesn't have any relevance then, if you're using a different kernel to me
[18:06] <OerHeks> ren0v0, i just wonder, why do you want to modprobe the 25 kernel, as you have newer versions . http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232517/
[18:06] <ioria> ren0v0, mine is older ....
[18:06] <MWM> daftykins:  I did blacklist it.  I still could not connect when I rebooted.  and when I checked the driver it listed as the broken r8169, however I think those more experienced might not have the same troubles as I did
[18:07] <ioria> ren0v0, so your should work better than mine
[18:07] <ren0v0> OerHeks, hmm, i'm on the above one i pasted, not sure why
[18:07] <ren0v0> ioria, that doesn't make any sense
[18:07] <ioria> ren0v0, why ?
[18:07] <ren0v0> ioria, older/newer makes no impact on "better", conflicts can come anywhere
[18:07] <ren0v0> ioria, you've never come across updates breaking things??
[18:08] <ioria> ren0v0, you mean regressions ?
[18:09] <ren0v0> ioria, you can't say "this driver is newer, its better and will work better then my older one", that's complete rubbish. Now, if you say we were using exactly the same driver version and you had no issues, that may be slightly useful
[18:09] <ren0v0> and this is coming from you who said 8169 is newer than 8168, when thats just a model number as far as i'm aware
[18:09] <ren0v0> nothing to do with versioning at all
[18:10] <ioria> ren0v0, ok
[18:10] <ren0v0> OerHeks, why am i on that kernel when i've run dist-upgrade etc? :S
[18:10] <BigBaby> Hello All
[18:11] <daftykins> MWM: right but you'd have to auto load the replacement... must've missed a few things :)
[18:11] <BigBaby> can someone help me? i am getting Kernel Panic, and a bunch of errors...
[18:11] <easy> quit
[18:11] <daftykins> BigBaby: details?
[18:12] <BigBaby> after looking at the logs i saw this line as the last line of syslog.1
[18:12] <BigBaby> kernel apt-get segfault at b95b897c ip b770ee3c sp bf9754e0 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so
[18:12] <MWM> ren0v0 :  I also used this thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411
[18:13] <BigBaby> daftkins i boot into rescue mode, and i can't chroot into /target/
[18:13] <ren0v0> MWM i'm already on this driver, seems its better than kernel included one
[18:13] <ren0v0> i've been stable for quite a while now, but i won't hold,my breath  :)
[18:14] <BigBaby> getting "Cant execute /bin/sh no such file or directory
[18:14] <EriC^^> BigBaby: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:14] <MWM> ren0v0: Im sorry I cant find the exact page that stated that the realtek drivers are broken, but I can tell you that I havent missed a connection at all once I switched ethernet cards.  I know that isnt the most helpful , but there it is :)
[18:14] <daftykins> BigBaby: you don't need to chroot from rescue, unless you mean a live session
[18:14] <ren0v0> What is latest kernel in 14.04.3 ?
[18:15] <daftykins> ren0v0: with the vivid HWE on you can get 3.19
[18:15] <ren0v0> daftykins, 3.19.xx ?
[18:15] <daftykins> 3.19.0-##
[18:15] <ren0v0> as OerHeks pointed out i have headers for -45 but i'm on -25
[18:15] <ren0v0> just curious
[18:15] <daftykins> ren0v0: can you show "dpkg -l | grep linux-" in a pastebin?
[18:16] <OerHeks> ren0v0, yeah, as i noticed, it could be the cause of your issue.
[18:16] <ren0v0> daftykins, i have  linux-headers-3.19.0-42   installed  but "uname-a" shows  -25
[18:16] <BigBaby> EriC^^ trying to boot into the system, but getting kernel panic with cannot mount none on / dev something about / bin / sh and / sbin / sh
[18:16] <ren0v0> i doubt there is a huge driver change in there, but i'd like to rule it out
[18:16] <daftykins> ren0v0: i'd like to see the full output as requested.
[18:17] <ren0v0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14232802/
[18:17] <EriC^^> BigBaby: do you have a live usb?
[18:18] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid trusty
[18:18] <daftykins> ren0v0: install linux-image-generic-lts-vivid
[18:18] <BigBaby> daftykins i wish i could, only phisycal access, and no EriC^^ it is bootable from the server klernel in recovery mode, but only able to see the files and drive in Rescue mode with live DVD
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: have you tried other realtek firmware versions?
[18:19] <daftykins> BigBaby: not sure what you mean; it's a hosted server?
[18:19] <BigBaby> i have tested the drive, and benchmarked it, it running great, but, the boot got messed up.
[18:19] <ren0v0> daftykins, so why does that kernel says its installed, and what is this package for and why isn't it picked up by upgrade/dist-upgrade?
[18:20] <ren0v0> daftykins, for sure i'll install it, i'd just like to understand
[18:20] <daftykins> ren0v0: i think you did something non-standard with your install there, a few things don't look right.
[18:20] <ren0v0> daftykins, excellent. :D
[18:20] <daftykins> i can only tell you of the now, no ideas on the past cause
[18:20] <BigBaby> daftykins no, i am sitting next to it.. booted into live CD Rescue Mode
[18:21] <ren0v0> daftykins, thanks, OerHeks thanks for spotting it. I'll try that and maybe it'll fix the ethernet driver issues in turn
[18:21] <daftykins> BigBaby: right so that's not really rescue mode then, but a live session - perhaps your chroot methodology isn't quite right
[18:21] <daftykins> ren0v0: wouldn't hurt to get rid of some of those older ones too, "sudo apt-get autoremove" may help
[18:22] <ren0v0> daftykins, autoremove has nothing to remove apparently
[18:22] <ren0v0> i do run that and clean occasionally
[18:22] <Ettafix> Hey :)
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> Ettafix: welcome, what can we do for you?
[18:23] <BigBaby> chroot target/ suppose to get me into the mounted boot system, it fails with error can't execute / bin / sh no such file or dir darftykins
[18:23] <daftykins> ren0v0: mmm, ah well - only a problem when the kernels start stacking up really
[18:23] <BigBaby> thank you btw darftykins for helping...
[18:24] <daftykins> no /target is not a thing to my mind.
[18:24] <daftykins> BigBaby: use tab on nicknames to complete them accurately and easily ;) you need to use "sudo parted -l" to identify your partitions then i normally mount them against /mnt in sequence
[18:25] <Ettafix> Is it possible to boot a live iso on a smarphone (samsung note 3)?
[18:25] <daftykins> i've heard of there being an android app for ISO booting off a phone before, but never seen it work myself
[18:25] <BigBaby> daftykins, cool
[18:25] <BigBaby> daftykins, you just made me faster, lol
[18:25] <daftykins> ;)
[18:26] <Ettafix> I've seen some youtube videos, but haven't found anything with a worth
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> !touch | Ettafix
[18:26] <lyon8> hi - i just entered "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[18:26] <daftykins> Ettafix: oh did you mean run ubuntu on that phone, or boot it *from* the phone? :)
[18:26] <Ettafix> To run on the phone
[18:26] <daftykins> lyon8: that's more of a statement than a question
[18:27] <daftykins> Ettafix: oh totallly different then, see above
[18:27] <BigBaby> this is my first time in IRC daftykins but i have been doing programming for over 11 years, only thing is, i am a user, for service only, not doing any custom stuff.... so, my Linux skills are medium for usage, and  very low on admin or troubleshooting.
[18:27] <Ettafix> To use the phone as a computer (it's pocket coputer, but the android is shitty)
[18:27] <MWM> sooooo.... there was a problem in the fstab.  I removed an entry that I had put in manually (which worked until I updated BTW) and now I boot into the system
[18:27] <lyon8> now the pc starts up and grub seems to be changed - the splash screen shows "kubuntu" - then there is absolute corruption of graphics
[18:27] <MWM> are there any GUI based fstab utilities?
[18:27] <daftykins> no need for one, it's an easy file to edit.
[18:28] <lyon8> two display managers (the unity-one and the kde-one) seem to run at the same time and flicker back and forth
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Ettafix: samsung note isnt supported yet for ubuntu touch, join #ubuntu-touch for the device list
[18:28] <MWM> true daftykins but I cant seem to get mine right.  Ive borked my install atleast twice just tring to mount a partition
[18:28] <Ettafix> Ok, thanks guys :)
[18:28] <lyon8> after a while there are just corrupted artifacts visible
[18:29] <lyon8> it seems the "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop broke the system - any ideas how to fix?
[18:29] <lyon8> i tried removing it again, but it still says "kubuntu" on boot up and the problems persist
[18:29] <EriC^^> lyon8: remove the kde display manager
[18:30] <BigBaby> any commands i can do, i have no SSH access, so i will try to run the commands, and type in the headlines daftykins
[18:30] <MWM> Ive read and re-read all kinds of fstab documentation.  I just cant seem to get it right, and I'm even fairly comfortable with the syntax
[18:30] <daftykins> MWM: well, ask a question about it with details... edit the fstab file and use "sudo mount -a" to parse it and confirm before risking a reboot with it.
[18:30] <daftykins> BigBaby: why don't you have SSH access? just install it in the live session
[18:30] <BigBaby> oh, good idea.
[18:31] <MWM> will "testparm" work for the fstab?
[18:31] <BigBaby> let me try
[18:31] <lyon8> EriC^^: how? i did "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" but it's still there
[18:31] <daftykins> MWM: no that's samba only.
[18:31] <BigBaby> thanks daftykins
[18:31] <daftykins> MWM: that should have been pretty obvious =|
[18:31] <EriC^^> lyon8: i mean the login screen
[18:32] <EriC^^> lyon8: type dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /dm$/'
[18:32] <MWM> hoiwever "sudo mount -a" just mounts everything right?  Like I said I rebooted this machine before the software update and it worked.
[18:32] <BigBaby> daftykins, nope, apt-get command not found, this is a install CD in rescue mode.
[18:32] <MWM> I guess I have some reading to do.  Im sure Ill see you guys again :)
[18:32] <BigBaby> daftykins, i don't think i can install anything.
[18:33] <daftykins> BigBaby: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:33] <BigBaby> i can see my files, but some are mounted on different partition.
[18:33] <BigBaby> ok
[18:33] <daftykins> MWM: so show us it so we can spot what's wrong...
[18:33] <daftykins> BigBaby: i'm assuming the system has a working network + internet connection, there
[18:33] <BigBaby> daftykins, command sudo not found
[18:33] <BigBaby> yes
[18:34] <daftykins> wat.
[18:34] <BigBaby> daftykins, it does
[18:34] <daftykins> that does not sound like an ubuntu live session :P
[18:34] <BigBaby> nope, it sounds like a install rescue broken system, my first time trying it.
[18:34] <MWM> daftykins: I had to delete the entry to be able to boot into the system.  I will show you guys if the problem re-occurs.  thanks
[18:35] <daftykins> BigBaby: anywho i'd maybe start at the basics like checking the hard disk health and running memtest
[18:36] <BigBaby> Already done daftykins i did SpinRite, checked the SMART Data, HD looks great. Also, just to eliminate i moved the whole setup into another machine, only thing which is the same is the HD and RAM...
[18:37] <BigBaby> daftykins, i know hardware is not the cause, and that log entry is the last entry from Dec 23rd.
[18:37] <BigBaby> which is when the system stopped booting up daftykins
[18:37] <BigBaby> so.. any ideas?
[18:39] <daftykins> ugh not spinrite
[18:39] <daftykins> BigBaby: stopped booting when, when put into the other system?
[18:42] <teun> Hey, I have a problem with my audio. In the system settings screen the audio screen shows NO DEVICES, when running "sudo lshw -c sound" it shows me 2 devices, when running "sudo aplay -l" it only shows me the HDMI interface as a available audio card. This is AFTER a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.10
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !sound | teun
[18:43] <teun> Already did all that
[18:44] <BigBaby> daftykins, no, not at all, i did some updates and maintenance a week or 2 before. but did not reboot, until system was in hang then i have tried using my exp as a computer technician prior to programming, did a process of elimination, moving between IDE channels as well. i first tried everything on the original system, but when all have failed, i moved the HD and RAM to another machine, got exactly same errors and completely different
[18:44] <BigBaby> hardware
[18:45] <BigBaby> running Ubuntu 14.04.3 i think daftykins
[18:46] <BigBaby> in the rescue mode i am seeing my file system, and logs as well.
[18:46] <daftykins> haha this thing is still running PATA disks? :)
[18:47] <teun> Does this reach anyone?
[18:47] <BigBaby> Yes, it is over 12 or 13 years since i bought it.//
[18:47] <daftykins> i'd rather see a first-hand SMART data report from a normal live session (i.e. 'try' mode)
[18:47] <daftykins> teun: yep we can see you, just be patient.
[18:47] <teun> Oh, sorry
[18:48] <BigBaby> i have a replacement drive, and a replacement server, but again, i can't move it, as i need to migrate a bunch of SVN files daftykins
[18:49] <daftykins> BigBaby: yeah so step #1 boot a proper live session and get the disk mounted so you can backup, i say
[18:49] <BigBaby> yes, i am booting into it, i had the server version before, i am getting the desktop for the live session now. i w ill then do some paste for you daftykins
[18:49] <BigBaby> yes sir daftykins
[18:50] <BigBaby> daftykins, downloading :-)
[18:52] <teun> That did nothing
[18:53] <beyond_help> Anyone here familiar with udev stuff?
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: you can always try shooting the question to the channel
[18:55] <beyond_help> I am using Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and whence I assert the udevinfo command it stands in absense; moreover, udevadm seems to be instantiated by the help proffers no examples of how to use it and my own tries have failed.
[18:55] <beyond_help> can anyone tell me how I use udevadm or udevinfo (to get it installed) so I can see what devices and their attributes exist to try to write rules?
[18:55] <beyond_help> all the FAQs I found are over 7 years old
[18:55] <beyond_help> commands seem not to even exist anymore
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys are more expert at this?
[18:56] <beyond_help> ok, I figured this was general help
[18:56] <beyond_help> I'll go there instead
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: this is general mate, just wanna give you more helping directions
[18:57] <beyond_help> right but I am neither a developer nor someone asking a development question, but I appreciate that if I was misguided and thats where the resources are, I am off to them. no sweat.
[18:57] <beyond_help> thanks!
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: if you dont get a usefull help, re-ask here once in a while mate
[18:59]  * beyond_help anyone here familiar with writing UDEV rules?
[19:00] <teun> Hey, does anyone have time to help me with an audio problem?
[19:01] <daftykins> they'd have responded if they could
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> teun: maybe its usefull to pastebin your syslog/dmesg togheter with your question at the channel?
[19:02]  * beyond_help Hiya! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[19:03] <daftykins> using a /me isn't really the way to get help.
[19:07] <teun> syslog doesn't fit in a pastebin
[19:08] <aotea> Memory Test is supposed to be in GRUB correct?
[19:08] <teun> I'll just throw my question again Settings audo devices = empty, lshw = 2 devices, aplay = 1 device, need aplay to recognize 2nd device and see it in settings, help.
[19:08] <daftykins> aotea: only on non-EFI
[19:08] <aotea> daftykins, Where is it for EFI systems?
[19:09] <OerHeks> there is no memtest86 for EFI. sorry to tell you
[19:10] <OerHeks> reason: We need 16-bit boot, which isn't available on EFI.
[19:10] <beyond_help> Hiya! I was directed here from the #ubuntu channel. I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which ag
[19:11] <daftykins> aotea: you'd have to enable legacy mode and boot your install media
[19:11] <daftykins> or get memtest86+ direct
[19:12] <OerHeks> beyond_help, our German friends have a nice udev page, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/udev ... maybe time to translate to english.
[19:13] <beyond_help> I can try to see if I can at least absorb commands that work from it (despite dumpkuff being all the German words I know)
[19:14] <teun> I can see both cards in /proc/asound
[19:16] <teun> Weirdest thing is that when I installed Ubuntu the first time, everything worked fine. But after a fuckup and a clean install, audio just stopped.
[19:16] <teun> I don't have any hardware audio switches on this thing.
[19:16] <teun> Either the card just died or something else is afoot
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> teun: on wich version did it work?
[19:17] <teun> it was version 15.10 both times
[19:18] <beyond_help> I have a device enp3s0 (netrwork card) and am trying to figure out what path to pass udevadm to do an attribute walk
[19:18] <teun> lotuspsychje: It was version 15.10 both times.
[19:20] <sw0rdfish> hey, so I found out there is no GUI openvpn client, so can I put the one line thats needed to connect with openvpn in a file and make it executable so that when my parents have to connect they just click on it and don't interact with the CLI
[19:20] <sw0rdfish> I know it would need sudo, can it work that way?
[19:20] <teun> I'm tempted to just format and reinstall the entire thing again.
[19:21] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: .ovpn files are apparently openable in network manager
[19:24] <studdentt> hi,i have a ftdi usb-serial adapter for a programmer and i want to find on what port it is connected so i can use avrdude, how do i find it ?
[19:24] <studdentt> lsusb tells me it is connected on Bus 004
[19:25] <sw0rdfish> oh
[19:25] <sw0rdfish> really? daftykins
[19:25]  * beyond_help Hiya! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[19:26] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: yeah so i'm told
[19:27] <daftykins> beyond_help: i still think you should stop using a /me when asking for help.
[19:29] <JinBaba> does anybody here has join/part messages visible?
[19:29] <daftykins> JinBaba: that's not an ubuntu support query.
[19:30] <studdentt> i juste launched eclipse and the icon appears on the left bar but i cant open the program ?
[19:30] <JinBaba> i know but other chans are so dead right now
[19:30] <studdentt> theres a tiny arrow on the left side of the icon but isnt full, what does it means ?
[19:30] <daftykins> what relevance do other channels have...
[19:30] <JinBaba> i need someone to PM me my join message that appeared when i got in
[19:31] <daftykins> JinBaba: no. try and find a slave in #freenode perhaps
[19:31] <JinBaba> wow man you're dry
[19:32] <daftykins> deal with it :)
[19:32] <BigBaby> lol
[19:33] <BigBaby> say thank you, private message, pay the man per hour, if he likes, he will help, otherwise, feel free to ask here, so we can all learn from the conversation or contribute JinBaba :-)
[19:35]  * beyond_help Hiya! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[19:37] <marinod> hello
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> marinod: welcome what can we do for you?
[19:44] <ubuntu020> So today guys, being an avid ubuntu user for 6 years, made the switch to Elementary Freya OS. So far, I'm liking it.. Let's see how far it goes... :P
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu020  nice, but not supported here
[19:45] <ubuntu020> yeah i know MonkeyDust... Didn;t come for support..
[19:45] <aotea> So to clarify, to run Memtest on an EFI system, I need to create a bootable media, set BIOS to legacy, run the Memtest from bootable media, then set BIOS back EFI to access my system?
[19:45]  * beyond_help Hiya! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[19:46] <ubuntu020> I'm just checking how long it can keep me binded to it before I go to ubuntu again probably.....
[19:51] <bar67> Ciao
[19:51] <bar67> !list
[19:52]  * beyond_help Hiya! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[19:53] <BluesKaj> beyond_help:  stop repeating your post, if anyone can help they will
[19:54] <beyond_help> repeating? Nah, just reasking bro...why don't you go consider overdosing on some chill pills, eh?
[19:54] <beyond_help> meantime I'll take your comments under advisement
[19:54] <mrsam__> hi all
[19:55] <BluesKaj> beyond_help:  take your own advice and quit reposting
[19:55] <ioria> beyond_help, ahve you tried udevadm info -q all -n /dev/sdaX ?
[19:55] <mrsam__> is tor browser safe?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> !language | beyond_help
[19:56] <beyond_help> ioria: the device I am interested in is an ethernet device, and I only see /dev/net/tun, but the ethernet device is in ifconfig and does work, I just want to force it to have a different name based on the mac address so if I boot my hp its "hp_eth0" and if I boot the dell its "dell_eth0"
[19:56] <daftykins> mrsam__: not really on topic.
i want to install it..i want to know is it safe or not
[19:57] <mrsam__> tnx
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> !tor | mrsam__
[19:57] <mrsam__> tnx lotuspsychje
[19:57] <beyond_help> ubuttu: kind of strange for a person with a rude name for human anatomy if your name to comment on being polite. I neither cursed nor yelled, just suggested someone else calm a bit and relax man. its just a chat room.
[19:57] <daftykins> mrsam__: that's up to you :)
[19:57] <Fuchs> that is heavily outdated, tor is no longer allowed on freenode
[19:57] <Fuchs> as a minor sidenote
[19:58] <nordizon> tor is old
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: telling someone to consider overdose isnt exactly 'polite'...
[19:59] <beyond_help> read the entire comment first....obviously it was euphamistic in tone...
[19:59] <beyond_help> hey man, its all good, this is just a chat room...be happy man...
[20:01] <BluesKaj> beyond_help:  your opnion that this just a chatroom is wrong, this is ubuntu support, if you just want a chatroom , please go eleswhere.
[20:01]  * beyond_help Hello! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[20:02] <beyond_help> ok, thanks for the opinion BluesKaj...I didn't realize it was a support room as I got little support...:0
[20:02] <beyond_help> but hey - be happy too!
[20:03] <daftykins> beyond_help: nobody is going to want to help a trouble maker, consider the time of year and try being pleasant.
[20:03] <aotea> Will it matter if I run memtest from an Arch Bootable I have? And Setting BIOS to legacy for the test shouldn't affect my system when I later change back to EFI correct?
[20:03] <daftykins> aotea: that'd be fine
[20:04] <aotea> daftykins, thanks
[20:05] <beyond_help> 1) I am not christian and do not celebrate that holiday, so its just like any other time of year to me. Second, be cool and be happy man.
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> beyond_help: stop the nonsense man
[20:05] <daftykins> beyond_help: time to lay off the weed and act like a civil human being pal
[20:05] <beyond_help> Perhaps you meants the chilly part of the year and people ought chill out? :)
[20:06] <beyond_help> I do not use illegal drugs, but I am a laid back person
[20:07] <BluesKaj> well the guy's nick suits his attitude
[20:08] <teun> Update time, using reboot didn't do jack, but after a power cycle it DID find the other audio device
[20:08] <UbuN2> yes it can
[20:08] <teun> time for an update. Rebooting did nothing, but after a power cycle it did find the audio card.
[20:09] <teun> freaking weird and I can't explain it. Anyone got ideas?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> teun: time to investigate your syslog and dmesg
[20:10] <UbuN2> does th sound work now teun
[20:10] <teun> What should I look for? The thing is too big to copy into pastebin
[20:10] <teun> Yes, sound works now.
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> teun: anything related to no working sound/errors
[20:11] <David_49> hi is there a way to use middle mouse scrolling in Ubuntu
[20:11]  * beyond_help Hello! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[20:12] <teun> lotuspsychje: know any good keywords?
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> teun: well alsamixer, pulseaudio,soundcard errors,..etc
[20:13] <studdentt> i have a ftdi usb-serial adapter for a programmer and i want to find on what port it is connected so i can use avrdude, how do i find it ?
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> teun: the more info you gather for us, the more chance of your issue getting solved
[20:14] <Guest85459> Anyone free to help me out?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> Guest85459  start with a question
[20:15] <Guest85459> I just installed Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 and I can't boot back into Windows.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest85459  sounds good
[20:15] <DosTuMai> ^That.
[20:16] <Guest85459> Well, I would like to boot back into Windows 10 because Ubuntu is being hard and my dual monitors are not working properly.
[20:16] <DosTuMai> Just mount the windows partition, pull all your data over, profit.
[20:16] <Kingsqueak> studdentt: just to avoid issues, unless you need it, remove brltty, apt-get remove brltty, and if it's the only usb-serial adapter, it's probably /dev/ttyUSB0 and 'lsusb' may be useful
[20:18] <teun> only thing I can find that somewhat points out to the device not working is this:
[20:18] <teun> "snd_hda_intel 0000:00:14.2: no codecs found!"
[20:18] <Guest85459> I don't want to mount the Windows partition, I want to go back into Windows 10.
[20:18] <teun> lotuspsychje
[20:19] <Guest85459> How about this -- how can I access the grub-prompt?
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> teun: can you check sudo lshw -C sound please
[20:21] <teun> lotuspsychje: both audio devices are there (HDMI and analog)
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> teun: and wich ubuntu version do you have?
[20:21] <teun> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[20:22] <Legi0n> Does anyone know off the top of their head what the Chrome OS command line is to update Seabios to the latest release?
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Guest85459: Reboot, as soon as the firmware screen clears repeatedly depress/release the escape key -> grub boot menu .
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> teun: up to date to latest?
[20:22] <studdentt> Kingsqueak: what does brltty ?
[20:22] <teun> lotuspsychje: also, the issue is resolved by doing a HARD POWER CYCLE, doing a REBOOT from Ubuntu did nothing. I'm just curious why it is like that.
[20:22] <studdentt> Kingsqueak: what does brltty do ?
[20:23] <teun> lotuspsychje: also, yeah, fresh install and updated.
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> teun: add a bug against it or test an ubuntu LTS version
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> teun: you can also try previous kernels, to test if audio works over there
[20:23] <daftykins> Legi0n: that's not on topic here.
[20:23] <Guest85459> I tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/435160/cant-boot-windows-7-after-installing-ubuntu
[20:24] <Guest85459> And Windows failed to boot
[20:24] <Guest85459> Maybe if I delete the Ubuntu partitions and reboot it will go back into Windows?
[20:24] <teun> lotuspsychje: yeah, I think this needs some further testing. Also might be a hardware issue as seen as a hard power cycle was needed to get the device back up...
[20:24] <teun> lotuspsychje: Anyway, thanks for thinking with me.
[20:25] <Guest85459> Or will deleting my Ubuntu paritions deem my computer inaccessible to a new boot menu
[20:25] <Legi0n> How is that not on topic?  I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu <-- and Chrome OS but I need to update my bios first.
[20:25] <ikonia> Guest85459: the guys in the ##windows channel can explain how to put the windows MBR back on your machine
[20:25] <ikonia> Guest85459: at that point grub is gone and you're back in windows full time
[20:25] <ikonia> Guest85459: you can then delete ubuntu and go on with your day without pain
[20:25] <Guest85459> Do they deal with pirated versions of Windows?
[20:26] <ikonia> no, and neither do we
[20:26] <OerHeks> Legi0n, "what the Chrome OS command line is to update Seabios" ?? there is not even such a command in ubuntu AFAIK
[20:27] <Legi0n> I may be going at it all wrong then.  If you wanted to update your seabios, where would you start?
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Legi0n
[20:28] <OerHeks> Legi0n, in your case, crome os. on windows machines windows, as the universal linux bios project is not ready https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[20:28] <studdentt> Kingsqueak: it worked with ttyUSB0
[20:30]  * beyond_help Hello! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> is he gone or kicked? there's a channel called #udev
[20:33] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, i think he does not even read this, as he might be busy with the german info i gave him
[20:35] <Anjelina> I'm a horny girl
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> Anjelina  wrong channel
[20:36] <DosTuMai> Anjelina: Is that a natural, or other kind of mutation?
[20:37] <ikonia> DosTuMai: drop it please, it's not for this channel
[20:40] <Anjelina> Ubuntu sucks
[20:41] <ilhami> hey
[20:41] <ilhami> how can I search for IPs on the same network?
[20:41] <ikonia> search ?
[20:42] <aotea> ilhami, I assume you got access to your router?
[20:42] <ilhami> yes... :D I am on WiFi now. I want to search for all computers on the network
[20:42] <ilhami> which has sharing
[20:42] <ikonia> you have to use a scanner such as nmap or arp requests, but that will be done more often from network kit than a random client on the network
[20:43] <ilhami> my router is kind of controlled by my mothers workplace.
[20:43] <ikonia> not reall an ubuntu issue then
[20:43] <ikonia> really
[20:43] <ilhami> so I can use nmap?
[20:43] <ikonia> possibl
[20:43] <ikonia> possibly
[20:43] <ilhami> ok. let me try that.
[20:43] <ikonia> it depends on the network and the design and security
[20:43] <ilhami> or maybe arp-scan
[20:43] <ikonia> that won't work
[20:44] <ilhami> why not?
[20:44] <ikonia> because your machine won't have an entry for every machine
[20:45] <ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82480/how-to-see-all-computers-connected-to-a-network
[20:45] <ikonia> why are you posting that ?
[20:45] <ilhami> I can maybe ping the broadcast IP
[20:45] <ikonia> that won't work
[20:45] <ilhami> ok
[20:46] <ilhami> why is it mentioned in that thread then?
[20:46] <ikonia> ask the guy who wrote the thread
[20:48] <OerHeks> the 1st answer got a green flag, as good answers get votes.
[20:48] <ilhami> arp-scan worked
[20:48] <ilhami> and found my other laptop on the same network
[20:49] <ilhami> sudo arp-scan -l --interface=wlan0
[20:49] <ilhami> this worked for me
[20:49] <ikonia> if you've ever connected to your laptop it will
[20:49] <Baketball> hello. I am trying to install hp-lip and I get the following error:
[20:49] <ikonia> as it will be able to scan known / previous arp requests
[20:49] <Baketball> Running 'make' Please wait, this may take several minutes... Traceback (most recent call last): File "./install.py", line 241, in <module> text_install.start(language, auto, test_depends, test_unknown, assume_network, max_retries, enable, disable) File "/home/space/Downloads/hplip-3.15.2/installer/text_install.py", line 781, in start status, output = utils.run(cmd , core.passwordObj) File "/home/space/Downloads/hplip-3.15.2/base/u
[20:50] <ikonia> why are you compiling hplip
[20:50] <ikonia> there is a package in the repo
[20:50] <OerHeks> 3.15.7 is in wily 15.10
[20:51] <ilhami> ok trying to ping my other laptop's IP. Nothing happens :D
[20:51] <ilhami> it just hangs there.
[20:52] <daftykins> maybe it isn't configured to respond to ping, depending on the OS...
[20:52] <ilhami> other one is on Windows now.
[20:53] <daftykins> so the firewall may be blocking it as default
[20:53] <ikonia> why do you care about ping ?
[20:53] <ilhami> eventually I want to be able to ssh into it
[20:53] <ikonia> ilhami: ok so focus on that
[20:53] <daftykins> not into Windows you won't
[20:53] <ikonia> icmp is different
[20:54] <ilhami> it's not possible to ssh into Windows? :P not even Windows 10?
[20:54] <daftykins> not yet no.
[20:54] <ikonia> you really don't want to be looking at that
[20:55] <ilhami> we are in 2016 and Windows has no SSH integration except with a third party client :D
[20:55] <daftykins> if you're in 2016 you might want to get a better newspaper
[20:55] <ikonia> how is that an ubuntu issue ?
[20:55] <ilhami> just saying.. but would I be able to ssh into Ubuntu ? I have dual boot on my other laptop.. can I ssh into it if I install ssh server on it?
[20:56] <livcd> ilhami: why should windows include some openbsd nonsense ?
[20:56] <buildit> could entering a halt command in CLI trigger a boot loop?
[20:56] <ikonia> ilhami: ssh is available on ubuntu yes
[20:56] <ikonia> buildit: no
[20:56] <ilhami> livcd, Windows has been planning for SSH integration though... for a long time now in their powershell
[20:57] <daftykins> not on topic here
[20:57] <ikonia> not really something this channel cares about
[20:57] <ikonia> the windows guys in ##windows can talk to you about data center version which I do think has ssh
[20:57] <buildit> thanks ikonia
[20:58] <ilhami> ok... so basically I just install open ssh server on the laptop I want to connect to and then I can ssh into it? :)
[20:59] <buildit> a friend changed in password in CLI and then executed the halt command in CLI (without logging out and logging back in between those two steps), and now he is stuck in a login loop. it accepts the new password, and then kicks him right back out to the login screen
[20:59] <ikonia> ilhami: depends
[20:59] <ikonia> buildit: is it running an X windows session/desktop ?
[20:59] <ilhami> ikonia, I can try it I guess
[21:00] <buildit> ikonia: whatever the ubuntu defaults are
[21:00] <buildit> he's a new user
[21:00] <ikonia> buildit: so if you get logged back out the common problems are a.) no space left on the home disk, b) no permissons to write to the home dir c.) invalid option in the config
[21:01] <ilhami> ok I have another question... every time I install a new kernel version I get a new option in grub.. should I remove the old ones or just leave them be? I have 5-6 options now :O
[21:01] <ikonia> ilhami: they should auto clean after 3 previous versions
[21:01] <ikonia> you can use the auto-clean option to force that clean earlier
[21:02] <ilhami> sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[21:02] <buildit> ikonia: its not a disk space issue. could have have affected his home dir permissions simply by changing his user password using the passwd CLI command?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> buildit: Loose authority to access /home ? does ' ls -al .Xauthority .ICEauthority ' indicate root ownership ?
[21:04] <buildit> Bashing-om: he is sitting at the user login screen. he can enter the new password, which then is accepted, then he see a black background with about 4 lines of code, then he is kicked back to the login screen
[21:05] <EriC^^> buildit: check ~/.xsession-errors
[21:05] <buildit> how can he check that in this situation?
[21:05] <EriC^^> does he have internet access?
[21:06] <buildit> not at the moment
[21:06] <bekks> buildit: press ctrl+alt+f1 and login at the text console.
[21:06] <EriC^^> cat ~/.xsession-errors
[21:06] <buildit> bekks: he should do that from the users login screen?
[21:06] <bekks> buildit: Sure.
[21:07] <ilhami> ikonia, ssh worked fine :)
[21:07] <ilhami> I am connected to my other machine now
[21:07] <ikonia> super
[21:12] <tacocat_> Would anyone be able to help? Basically I have an SSD and HDD and on them an install of Windows 10
[21:13] <daftykins> right...
[21:13] <ilhami> is it possible to cluster cpu power from two machines? :) and how would I do it?
[21:13] <tacocat_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a dual boot and use, SSD for root and swap and HDD for /home
[21:13] <daftykins> ilhami: only for things like software compilation
[21:14] <ilhami> hmm
[21:14] <daftykins> tacocat_: how big is each?
[21:14] <tacocat_> daftykins: partitions or total size?
[21:15] <ilhami> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuClusters
[21:15] <daftykins> the drive sizes
[21:15] <tacocat_> 128gb SSD 1TB HDD
[21:15] <ilhami> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering
[21:15] <ikonia> ?
[21:15] <daftykins> mmm 128GB is really quite tiny for Windows to live on, i'd not try and get ubuntu in beside that personally.
[21:15] <tacocat_> Mainly just want SDD for booting speed
[21:15] <daftykins> unless you can get away with a 20GB / and keep swap off it
[21:15] <ikonia> who cares about boot speed
[21:15] <ikonia> how often do you boot
[21:15] <daftykins> i do
[21:15] <daftykins> :D
[21:15] <aotea> I'm soon having an aneurysm due to rage, can't for the life of me manage to get Memtest working on my UEFI Kubuntu machine. Which I've been asked to run before filing a bugreport. Is there any guide anywhere out there on how to achieve this what I assume to be simple task...
[21:15] <Dannn85668> My upgrade from 1404 to 1504 seems to have crashed.  I asked the GUI to do the upgrade, left, now the screen lock won't let me in.
[21:16] <ikonia> really ? you'd waste a hard disk install to go from 20 seconds to 10 seconds
[21:16] <ilhami> the bigger swap the faster boot? :D
[21:16] <ikonia> err no
[21:16] <tacocat_> daftykins: how is it small for Windows? I currently installed Windows and just use HDD as its main storage
[21:16] <ilhami> oh ok.
[21:16] <tacocat_> ~40gb
[21:17] <daftykins> yes but as time goes on, if you used much software, it'd be a pain
[21:17] <daftykins> anyway i don't really see a problem, resize windows' C: so there's space, then boot and run the installer
[21:17] <tacocat_> daftykins: on Windows or Linux?
[21:17] <gabiroom35> can i have the french canal please?
[21:17] <ikonia> #ubuntu-fr
[21:18] <gabiroom35> thx
[21:18] <ilhami> 128GB is really not much :D get 640GB
[21:18] <Dannn85668> Should I just reboot?
[21:19] <tacocat_> daftykins: I currently did this: resized c: leaving room for swap and root. Than resized HDD to add a /home partition about 500gb
[21:19] <daftykins> ok - and is your win10 install EFI or legacy?
[21:19] <bekks> Dannn85668: press ctrl+alt+f1 and login using a text console. Reboots dont magically fix issues.
[21:19] <tacocat_> I than installed Ubuntu, however I have no way to boot into it as there's no menu option in ego
[21:20] <tacocat_> Efi*
[21:20] <daftykins> tacocat_: there should be a place with 'Windows Boot Manager' set that needs changing
[21:20] <ikonia> private 200mb partition at the start of the disk
[21:20] <EriC^^> tacocat_: hi
[21:21] <EriC^^> tacocat_: can you boot a live usb?
[21:21] <tacocat_> daftykins: while installing Ubuntu? Or is there a way to add to it after?
[21:21] <tacocat_> EriC^^: hell
[21:21] <daftykins> tacocat_: EriC^^ 'll help you now
[21:21] <tacocat_> Hello* and yes
[21:21] <daftykins> this is his forté :)
[21:22] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, boot a live usb
[21:22] <tacocat_> daftykins: alright
[21:22] <tacocat_> EriC^^: alright got it booted
[21:22] <EriC^^> tacocat_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:22] <Dannn85668> Bekks: should I resolve the dependency errors with apt get?  I don't know about recovering from failed upgrades, but I can work apt a bit
[21:23] <bekks> Dannn85668: Did you directly upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04?
[21:24] <tacocat_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/pngh
[21:24] <ilhami> if I want to connect to the GUI of my other laptop.. could I use VNC?
[21:24] <Dannn85668> Bekks: I used the tool, the tool send to have attempted 1404 to 1504.  New thing?
[21:25] <Dannn85668> Send meant seems
[21:25] <EriC^^> tacocat_: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi , does it exist?
[21:25] <daftykins> ilhami: only if you don't care about security
[21:25] <tacocat_> daftykins: thanks for help btw :)
[21:25] <EriC^^> tacocat_: i think ubuntu was installed in legacy mode, cause there's a bios-boot partition, and windows is in efi mode
[21:25] <bekks> Dannn85668: Used which tool? Direct upgrades from 14.04 to 15.04 arent supported.
[21:25] <ilhami> what should I use if I care about security?
[21:26] <bekks> ilhami: VNX isnt secure at all.
[21:26] <bekks> *VNC
[21:26] <ilhami> What is a good alternative?
[21:26] <tacocat_> EriC^^:  says it doesn't exist
[21:26] <bekks> ilhami: Look into solutions like nxclient/nxserver instead.
[21:26] <k1l> ilhami: why do you need gui at all? typical remote tasks are fine for CLI
[21:26] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, that means you're booted in legacy mode right now
[21:26] <ilhami> bekks, thanks
[21:27] <tacocat_> EriC^^: ah. So I need to install it in EFUI mode?
[21:27] <EriC^^> tacocat_: you need to reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode, don't choose the reinstall option in the installer though as it'll wipe the disk clean, choose Something else and set the mountpoints
[21:27] <EriC^^> tacocat_: yeah
[21:27] <Dannn85668> Bekks: the GUI.  I don't know how to emphasise the simplicity of what I did.   I enabled non lts upgrades
[21:27] <k1l> ilhami: you could start the program gui on your local system while running the program on the server with ssh -X
[21:27] <ilhami> bekks, you mean this right? https://www.nomachine.com/
[21:27] <Dannn85668> And then clicked upgrade
[21:27] <tacocat_> EriC^^: alright I'll let you know when I'm back at that menu
[21:27] <EriC^^> ok
[21:28] <bekks> ilhami: Yes.
[21:28] <ilhami> bekks, thank you!
[21:29] <tacocat_> Ok at the menu
[21:29] <tacocat_> So I should delete all Ubuntu partitions I installed on before?
[21:29] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, are you sure you're booted in uefi mode?
[21:29] <tacocat_> Um. Wait for live disk?
[21:30] <EriC^^> tacocat_: no, select them, and set the mountpoints, like "/" and /home
[21:30] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:30] <tacocat_> O
[21:30] <tacocat_> I installed win10 in uefi for sure
[21:30] <tacocat_> Booting into live disk will boot you into a uefi install right?
[21:31] <EriC^^> press ctrl+alt+f1 , login as ubuntu and type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[21:31] <EriC^^> nope, it can boot in either mode
[21:32] <ilhami> bekks, both remote and local has to have installed no machine, right?
[21:32] <EriC^^> tacocat_: it depends on your bios, also the menu to boot the usb
[21:32] <tacocat_> EriC^^: getting a no such file or directory found
[21:32] <tacocat_> Hmm
[21:32] <EriC^^> ok, restart the pc, try pressing esc, and if you get boot options press uefi usb
[21:32] <bekks> ilhami: Client needs nxclient, server needs nxserver.
[21:33] <EriC^^> tacocat_: you can tell if it booted in uefi mode if you get a white and black grub menu with try ubuntu and install ubuntu
[21:34] <tacocat_> EriC^^: wait while booting the usb press esc?
[21:34] <EriC^^> yeah when the pc first starts
[21:35] <tacocat_> O there it is
[21:35] <tacocat_> Ok I'm on uefi install now
[21:37] <tacocat_> So I create a swap and /root partition on SSD and make a /home on HDD where do I install bootloader?
[21:38] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, first delete the bios-boot partition
[21:38] <EriC^^> did you create that btw?
[21:38] <EriC^^> it usually needs to be 1M tops, dunno how it's 5gb O.o
[21:38] <tacocat_> EriC^^: yes I had created it, was getting an error without it didn't know why
[21:38] <ilhami> bekks, it worked :D thanks
[21:39] <EriC^^> oh ok, i thought the installer might have a bug
[21:39] <tacocat_> when I had created it I already was fiddling around and just threw it in there
[21:39] <tacocat_> Used same size as 4gb swap
[21:39] <tacocat_> After that didn't work I finally came here realizing I have no clue how to do UEFI installs :)
[21:39] <tacocat_> :(*
[21:40] <EriC^^> ok, i think you want the swap to be on the hdd so it doesn't kill the ssd prematurely, not sure
[21:40] <tacocat_> Alright
[21:40] <EriC^^> does anybody know about ssd + swap?
[21:41] <tacocat_> By kill prematurely what is that expected to be?
[21:42] <daftykins> you can put swap on SSD sure, depends on the system RAM though imo for whether it's actually going to dip into it much
[21:42] <daftykins> i wouldn't waste the SSD space if the system has 8GB+
[21:43] <tacocat_> Ah I got 16gb I'll throw it on HDD I guess
[21:43] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, if you want to be able to hibernate you need the swap a tad larger than the ram
[21:43] <tacocat_> Thanks daftykins again
[21:43] <dekr4ken> in otherwords because it's ssd, you recommend not having a swap?
[21:44] <tacocat_> dekr4ken: think he meant it may kill or make SSD fail faster since swap is called so much
[21:44] <tacocat_> Not sure
[21:44] <ilhami> Unity has improved a lot :D
[21:44] <tacocat_> EriC^^: ah so like 18gigs?
[21:44] <EriC^^> i think i've seen someone mention it shortens the life a bit or something, i guess not that much though
[21:45] <EriC^^> tacocat_: yeah make it 16-17gb
[21:45] <bekks> EriC^^: That applied for the first SSD, a decade ago.
[21:45] <EriC^^> bekks: i see
[21:45] <bekks> tacocat_: How much RAM do you have?
[21:45] <daftykins> mmm i think the concerns have been very overblown about SSD use.
[21:45] <tacocat_> bekks: 16gb DDR4
[21:46] <dekr4ken> never had the opp to work with ssd. think swop is calculated 2x the size of ram. if you gonna hammer the box with noisy apps i think the swop can easily be considered 3x +
[21:46] <daftykins> dekr4ken: i'd hugely disagree with that
[21:46] <bekks> dekr4ken: 2x times RAM was the rule of thumb thirty years ago.
[21:46] <ikonia> 2x ram = bad info
[21:47] <dekr4ken> okay. thats why im here to learn. so what is recommended now?
[21:47] <tacocat_> EriC^^: alright added swap
[21:47] <ikonia> common sense, allocate the swap you need
[21:47] <bekks> dekr4ken: For hibernation: swap == ram.
[21:47] <ikonia> if any
[21:47] <dekr4ken> but people still prefer ext3 to ext4 right?
[21:47] <ikonia> no
[21:48] <aotea> I can't run Memtest. Option not available in grub. 64bit Kubuntu installed and UEFI enabled in BIOS. Live USB didn't want to boot with either Enabled or Disabled EFI. What can I do to run a Memorytest?
[21:48] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, make sure the mountpoints are set for "/" and /home , and click on the efi partition and check that it's set to efi, also at the bottom choose the bootloader location as the ssd
[21:48] <dekr4ken> geez i've been out of the game too long
[21:48] <mirsaturn> dekr4ken ext4 for most Linux distros by default. BSD has either XFS or ZFS or Btrfs...I forget now.
[21:48] <bekks> mirsaturn: Thats a huge misinformation.
[21:49] <bekks> mirsaturn: the filesystem being used on a disk doe NOT depend on the type of the disk, like HDD or SSD.
[21:49] <tacocat_> EriC^^: how do I set ego?
[21:49] <tacocat_> Efi*
[21:49] <mirsaturn> bekks I am sorry...have I missed something
[21:50] <EriC^^> tacocat_: double click on the fat32 partition
[21:50] <dekr4ken> look ive started out many years ago with redhat 6, and been default installing ubuntu on my netbook, not really playing as such. obviously i have been left behind
[21:50] <tacocat_> There's no efi option though
[21:50] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, nm
[21:51] <tacocat_> I thought I remember having to set it somewhere
[21:51] <tacocat_> No clue
[21:51] <ilhami> You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[21:51] <ilhami> libc.so.6
[21:51] <ilhami> I just installed that lib
[21:51] <EriC^^> tacocat_: set the bootloader location at the bottom to the ssd
[21:51] <bekks> dekr4ken: RHEL 6 was released just years ago.
[21:51] <EriC^^> should be good
[21:51] <heap_> i plugged my usb stick and fired up startup disk application
[21:51] <tacocat_> EriC^^: alright set it
[21:51] <heap_> but usb stick got mounted as /dev/sdb1 .. how can i format that stick?
[21:52] <tacocat_> Should I install now?
[21:52] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:52] <heap_> when i umount stick i can see /dev/sdb1 anymore
[21:52] <tacocat_> EriC^^: I get an error which I can press ok to and continue
[21:52] <EriC^^> what's the error say?
[21:53] <dekr4ken> not rhel 6 >> redhat 6.1 back in 2001
[21:53] <heap_> is that a joke?;/
[21:53] <tacocat_> It says "the partition table format in use in your disks requires you to create a separate partition for bootloader code.
[21:53] <EriC^^> hmm
[21:53] <EriC^^> tacocat_: are you sure you're booted in uefi mode?
[21:54] <EriC^^> press ctrl+alt+f1 , try ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[21:54] <ilhami> http://pastie.org/10656076
[21:54] <ilhami> why does it give me all these dependency errors? :D I installed from the .deb file
[21:55] <tacocat_> No directory
[21:55] <tacocat_> What..
[21:55] <ikonia> ilhami: was there not a package in the repo
[21:55] <EriC^^> tacocat_: ok, you can convert to uefi if you want after installing
[21:55] <ilhami> ikonia, it told me to buy... so I couldn't bother setting up all that
[21:55] <tacocat_> Alright should I just click continue to error and install anyways?
[21:55] <ilhami> because steam is free!
[21:55] <ikonia> ilhami: libc is glibc - pretty mission critical
[21:55] <EriC^^> create a 1M bios-boot for the sake of the install if you want to continue
[21:56] <EriC^^> tacocat_: no create the bios-boot
[21:56] <ikonia> ilhami: where did you get the deb ?
[21:56] <ilhami> from steams official site
[21:56] <tacocat_> Umm how do I got back btw?
[21:56] <ikonia> that just seems mental
[21:56] <tacocat_> Will exit work?
[21:56] <ikonia> that steam would provide libc for your distro,
[21:56] <ilhami> am I missing some drivers?
[21:56] <ikonia> not something I would suggest doing at all
[21:57] <ikonia> if you install via a deb, it will fail to resolve dependencies for you
[21:57] <EriC^^> tacocat_: what do you get?
[21:57] <ikonia> but I wouldn't suggest taking libc from anywhere other than your distro
[21:57] <tacocat_> I'm still in the alt ctrl f1 menu
[21:57] <EriC^^> oh, press alt+f8
[21:57] <tacocat_> Ah
[21:58] <ilhami> sudo apt-get install '^libc6.*' I ran this command a bit earlier
[21:59] <ikonia> ilhami: that won't do anything
[21:59] <ilhami> you are right about that.
[22:01] <ilhami> I will try installing from synaptic
[22:02] <JAKSD> Hello, I'm trying to get Ubuntu fullscreen in virtualbox, I've inserted the guest additions CD, but what do I do now?
[22:02] <JAKSD> Any help would be appreciated...
[22:03] <daftykins> turn it off, ensure 3D accel is on in the graphics options for the VM, then boot back up
[22:03] <daftykins> should work fine
[22:03] <JAKSD> doesn't.
[22:03] <JAKSD> it's still smallscreen
[22:04] <EriC^^> did you install the guest additions?
[22:04] <JAKSD> well
[22:04] <JAKSD> the problem is when inserting guest additions it says the directory is locked
[22:05] <daftykins> never needed guest additions here.
[22:05] <JAKSD> one sec and I'll get you the exact error
[22:05] <daftykins> pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log instead.
[22:06] <JAKSD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14235966/
[22:06] <JAKSD> that's the error I'm getting when trying to insert the guest additiotns
[22:06] <JAKSD> I don't get it..
[22:06] <EriC^^> JAKSD: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:07] <ilhami> ok it works now somehow.
[22:07] <JAKSD> http://termbin.com/u8gw
[22:07] <kubis> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 and having trouble with tearing using my GeForce 840M (driver is nvidia version 352.63). It happens whenever I move a window quickly or play Minecraft. Does anyone know what I could try to get rid of it?
[22:08] <tacocat_> EriC^^: my install seems to have gotten stuck going to try restarting I guess
[22:08] <EriC^^> tacocat_: press the right arrow
[22:08] <JAKSD> what do you thin EriC^^
[22:08] <JAKSD> think*
[22:09] <Bashing-om> kubis: Maybe try the 346 version driver . Maybe a bit of instability with the 352 version yet ?
[22:09] <EriC^^> on the right corner of the installer, it opens a terminal with what's going on
[22:09] <CyberGabber> JAKSD: Do you currently have another virtual machine running wich has mounted the same VBoxGuestAdditions.iso?
[22:09] <JAKSD> No I don't have any other virtualmachines
[22:10] <JAKSD> I really would like to get fullscrenn.
[22:11] <kubis> How do I get the older version?
[22:11] <Bruha> hello
[22:11] <Bruha> I'm installing  Ubuntu for the first time this afternoon!
[22:11] <JAKSD> Great
[22:11] <tacocat_> EriC^^: I'm extremely stupid, for some reason the flash drive has 2 partitions
[22:11] <Bruha> I'm creating the usb bootable with unetbootin right now
[22:12] <tacocat_> 1 for UEFI and 1 for regular
[22:12] <JAKSD> anyone can help me? :3
[22:12] <tacocat_> Kept booting into regular
[22:12] <EriC^^> JAKSD: i could try to give you a hack
[22:12] <daftykins> i went to get pizza
[22:12] <EriC^^> daftykins: http://termbin.com/u8gw
[22:13] <EriC^^> pizza.. mmm :>
[22:13] <daftykins> 'failed to load model vboxvideo'
[22:13] <daftykins> module, silly fingers
[22:13] <JAKSD> :(
[22:13] <JAKSD> I want help :(
[22:13] <daftykins> yeah, that IS help - it's what the problem is
[22:13] <daftykins> one sec
[22:14] <Bashing-om> kubis: Easiest if via the "Additinal Drivers" utility within USC -> sources -> Additional Drivers tab .
[22:14] <Bruha> should I check for disc defects before installing ubuntu?
[22:14] <daftykins> never hurts
[22:15] <VFDPrim> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 14.4 to 14,10 or 15.4
[22:15] <Bruha> ok, then will it return to the install menu?
[22:15] <tacocat_> EriC^^: alright I got into uefi mode
[22:15] <EriC^^> tacocat_: did you boot in uefi mode now?
[22:15] <tacocat_> Yes
[22:15] <EriC^^> tacocat_: cool
[22:15] <dekr4ken> ? sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[22:16] <tacocat_> Problem is now when installing it gets stuck
[22:16] <JAKSD> please help...
[22:16] <VFDPrim> thats wants me to upgrade to 16.4 :(
[22:16] <tacocat_> Seems to get stuck at creating /root partition on SSD
[22:16] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | VFDPrim
[22:16] <daftykins> JAKSD: i was about to reply but seeing you constantly nag impatiently is really putting me off.
[22:16] <JAKSD> sorry
[22:16] <JAKSD> :(
[22:16] <EriC^^> tacocat_: try pressing on the arrow to the bottom right of the installer
[22:17] <Bruha> no errors!  woohoo!  Now I'm installing Ubuntu!
[22:17] <VFDPrim> congrats bruha
[22:18] <Bruha> anyone ran Emby or Plex on Ubuntu?
[22:18] <daftykins> i'm more a Kodi type
[22:19] <CyberGabber> JAKSD: Be sure not to have mounted ('opened') that ISO by another program like isomount, MS virtual CDROm etc.
[22:19] <VFDPrim> daftykins just got kodi here not to long ago and i agree much better
[22:19] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Trying to release upgrade presently is risky business . As you must go through thh EOL release 14.10 . When 16.04 is relasd you will have a direct LTS path to upgrade to 16.04 .
[22:19] <daftykins> JAKSD: try "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-x11"
[22:20] <CyberGabber> daftykins: JAK was impantient, he's gone,
[22:20] <daftykins> ah yes, ah well their loss.
[22:21] <daftykins> pizza won
[22:21] <tacocat_> EriC^^: it opens a black terminal like thing in window saying what it's doing right?
[22:21] <EriC^^> tacocat_: yeah
[22:21] <Bruha> I'm having trouble connecting to the wifi
[22:21] <VFDPrim> bashing-om the issue here is when i upgraded to 15.10 last time i had huge issues the reason why i am trying to get 14.10 is because i know that kdenlive actualy has everything in it that i need so id even do 15.4 at this point but 15.10 and 16.4 i dont know about how it will act with my amd and such
[22:21] <Bruha> It sees my network, but when I enter the password and click connect it just sits there
[22:22] <Bruha> do i click quit now?
[22:22] <tacocat_> EriC^^: it's been idling at cd/&&grub-parts --report /etc/crib.hourly
[22:23] <tacocat_> ^Cron no crib
[22:23] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: UnGood, as release 14.10 is End_Of_Life and no longer supported . And 15.04 goes EOL in next month .
[22:23] <Bruha> now it is completely hung up
[22:24] <Bruha> can't continue without connectingn to wifi, can't go back
[22:24] <Bruha> any ideas?
[22:24] <VFDPrim> bashing-om so what do you think is my best course of action here ?
[22:24] <VFDPrim> Bruha retry typing in the password
[22:24] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: AMD graphics in 15.10 .. not completely sure that the dependency issues have been resolved by AMD .
[22:25] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: What is the issue with fixing problems if you remain on 14.04 ?
[22:25] <VFDPrim> bashing-om yea me neither so i guess i will just have to stick with 14.4 and deal with not having everything accessable to me
[22:26] <tacocat_> EriC^^: is there anything I can do is restart only way?
[22:26] <VFDPrim> well there is a really round about way of adding the missing stuff to the program but i usualy end up screwing stuff up when i attempt to fallow directions and for some reason when i tell it to update that does not chainge anything
[22:26] <EriC^^> tacocat_: i guess so
[22:27] <EriC^^> did it say installing grub before it happened?
[22:27] <EriC^^> i think the last thing it does is install grub, then remove the additional packages that are used in the installer, like gparted and stuff
[22:27] <anabain> Can permissions on a bind directory be most permissive than those on the original dir?
[22:28] <EriC^^> anabain: you mean mount --bind ?
[22:28] <calcmandan> running a home ubuntu server running apache and ampache. From March until a week ago I was running 3.8.0-dev and streaming via subsonic backend to my android phone using dsub. I finally updated to 3.8.1 following the directions on the help page. 3.8.1 is a beautiful upgrade but, unfotunately, everything works but subsonic. I made no changes to apache2 during the upgrade and ensured that subsonic is enabled in config. i've read a number of
[22:28] <calcmandan> [14:23] <calcmandan> issues in github but none of them really apply directly to my issue. For kicks I commented out line 483-485 in stream.class.php but it didn't help. Any help would be appreciated.
[22:28] <calcmandan> sorry for the wall of text
[22:29] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Installing from PPAs - or - ya sticking to the safe road of our repository ?
[22:29] <daftykins> where else did you post that query?
[22:30] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om: just tryed the sudo apt get update command im honestly not sure how to try and get an update just for one program
[22:33] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Depends, IF from repo, then the package manager will take care of all issues OR advise/hint why it can not comply . Show the channel the outputs of ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . We see what we can do .
[22:35] <anabain> yes, EriC^^
[22:35] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: not sure if you would really see anything due to it says everthing is compleatly up to date
[22:35] <VFDPrim> whats the commands again to make link for you guys
[22:36] <EriC^^> anabain: i think it gets the permissions that are already set
[22:36]  * beyond_help Hello! I am interested in getting assistance with udev rule writing and listing attributes. the udevinfo command seems absent and uninstantiated in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 and seems as well uninstallable. Morevoer, the udevadm command is not really giving any examples in the man pages and the FAQs I looked for online are over 7 (almost 8) years old and showing the usage of udevinfo which again stands absent. in short: HELP! :)
[22:36] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: 'pastebinit' .
[22:36] <anabain> EriC^^, ok
[22:38] <buildit> bekks EriC^^ ikonia are you still around?
[22:40] <ikonia> buildit: ?
[22:40] <buildit> yes
[22:40] <bekks> buildit: Just ask your question to the entore channel.
[22:40] <buildit> had to step away for awhile
[22:40] <buildit> back to the issue, then.
[22:40] <ikonia> ?
[22:40] <buildit> the guy i'm helping followed your instructions
[22:40] <ikonia> is there a reason you've pinged me ?
[22:41] <tacocat_> EriC^^: thanks for the help :). Couldn't get it but I'll play around with it later. Probably some silly other mistake.
[22:41] <buildit> yes, you were helping me
[22:41] <buildit> earlier
[22:41] <bekks> buildit: Re-state the problem then.
[22:41] <buildit> the guy i am helping followed your (bekks) instructions to  press ctrl+alt+f1 and login at the text console.
[22:41] <daftykins> testing the guest session would also have been good
[22:41] <buildit> that took he to a CLI where he successfully logged in
[22:41] <EriC^^> tacocat_: if it hangs after it says installing grub you can always use a live usb to chroot and reinstall grub, no problem
[22:42] <buildit> now how can he fix the issue he was encountering where he would get to the user login screen, login, and then it immediately kicks him back out to the user login screen?
[22:43] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236409/
[22:43] <bekks> buildit: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[22:43] <buildit> earlier, EriC^ suggested that
[22:43] <buildit> should the guy enter exactly that in to the CLI?
[22:43] <soldid> anyone seen how borked nautilus is in 16.04
[22:43] <bekks> buildit: thats why it was suggested.
[22:44] <daftykins> soldid: for a pre-alpha, who cares? anyway, talk in #ubuntu+1 only thanks
[22:44] <buildit> just trying to make sure i understood correctly
[22:44] <soldid> @daftykins only? this is how we get treated here
[22:45] <bekks> soldid: you're offtopic in here ;)
[22:45] <ikonia> soldid: yes, you get pointed to the right channel to get help
[22:45] <ikonia> soldid: #ubuntu+1 is where you need,
[22:45] <soldid> @ikonia thanks im gonna wreck them
[22:45] <ikonia> ?
[22:46] <daftykins> soldid: *gasp* having to change an ENTIRE channel to talk about an appropriate topic! ooh, we're brutal, i know.
[22:47] <tacocat_> EriC^^: it seems to hang while making partitions or something along that line, going to try to manually make them all on Windows later
[22:47] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14236409/ .
[22:50] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: So far, so good .. now what returns ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[22:51] <VFDPrim> bashing-om:what will or what should that do
[22:51] <buildit> friend entered "cat ~/.xsession-errors" in CLI and it returned: "cat: /home/[username]/.xsession-errors: no such file or directory"
[22:52] <buildit> what does that tell us?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: An audit of the package management system, and advisory of any problems .
[22:52] <VFDPrim> ok will do now
[22:53] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: 0 across the board
[22:53] <buildit> bekks: what does that tell us?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Then there is no problem with the package manager .. Ya got something in mind to install as a test ?
[22:55] <bekks> buildit: that the file does not exist?
[22:57] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om: did you see my last message
[22:57] <nex__> hello
[22:57] <nex__> hi
[22:57] <TheUndertaker> hi
[22:58] <ahhh> https://doyle.ninja/limechat-crash.gif
[22:58] <kubis> Hi, what can I do against tearing? I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 and a GeForce 840M (nvidia driver). It happens whenever I play games or move windows quickly.
[22:58] <nex__> Hello
[22:59] <buildit> bekks, we came looking for help with the problem stated roughly two hours ago, and that was the troubleshooting step recommended. we did it. that was the feedback. can you help us solve this issue?
[23:00] <kubis> I don't seem to have any VSync option in my Nvidia options. I really don't know what to do.
[23:01] <buildit> bekks, my knowledge is very limited, and i am trying to help someone that is new to ubuntu and doesn't currently have an internet connection. can you (or anyone here) help?
[23:02] <pherjung> buildit: my English is very bad and I don't have a lot of experiance with Linux, but I can try to help you
[23:03] <buildit> thanks, pherjung
[23:03] <aotea> Seems my grub.cfg is missing stuff after "### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###" What should be after that to allow me run Memtest from Grub menu?
[23:03] <buildit> the user has this issue: " he is sitting at the user login screen. he can enter the new password, which then is accepted, then he see a black background with about 4 lines of code, then he is kicked back to the login screen"
[23:05] <buildit> as suggested by bekks, he pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and login at the text console
[23:05] <soldid> @kubis     Option     "metamodes" "DVI-D-0: nvidia-auto-select { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
[23:05] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: "  bashing-om: 0 across the board " ?/ Then my response is given .
[23:05] <soldid> @kubis just google dis shiz out
[23:05] <soldid> @kubis if on gnome then vblank=none helps with above settings
[23:06] <VFDPrim> oh it saud 0 updated 0deleated 0installed 0 not upgraded
[23:06] <buildit> as suggested by EriC^^, the user entered "cat ~/.xsession-errors" in CLI and it returned: "cat: /home/[username]/.xsession-errors: no such file or directory"
[23:06] <buildit> that is where the user is in troubleshooting the issue
[23:06] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: And my reponse"  VFDPrim: Then there is no problem with the package manager .. Ya got something in mind to install as a test ? " :)
[23:07] <VFDPrim> bashing-om i trid what it says on this page not sure if it will upgrade anything or not did i do something bad by doing thig?
[23:07] <OerHeks> buildit, just read back, "a friend changed in password in CLI and then executed the halt command in CLI (without logging out and logging back in between those two steps)" .. without internet, i would say backup data and reinstall
[23:08] <pherjung> +1
[23:08] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Ya lost me, what "page" "
[23:08] <VFDPrim> https://kdenlive.org/download-ubuntu
[23:11] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: There a reason why you do not use the package for kdenlive in our repo ? ' apt-cache show kdenlive ' .
[23:11] <VFDPrim> dono how to do that lol
[23:11] <VFDPrim> or what to do
[23:12] <soldid> firefox has flash now? twitch lags as fuk
[23:12] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Where am I loosing you ? Do you want that package installed ? and IF so, why not from our repo ?
[23:13] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om what package and what repo? sorry i dont understand turms well
[23:14] <VFDPrim> bashing+om : if it will get me an update for keden live then yes (prefer if its not the last one but if i must then i will)
[23:14] <aotea> Seem to have same issue as seen in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2268214 - I got memtest installed and set "chmod +x" - updated grub and still no menu option for running memtest in Grub. Is my only option tearing the ram out and trying it in another computer?
[23:15] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: You referenced " https://kdenlive.org/download-ubuntu " as I understood a package you wanted to install, and my response to that package is that it is in our repo, no need to get it from a PPA !
[23:15] <guest-6ONWRk> hello
[23:15] <guest-6ONWRk> I've just installed Ubuntu Mate, and deactivated password for login, yet cannot login. Any help?
[23:16] <daftykins> "deactivated" ?
[23:16] <daftykins> not quite getting your meaning there
[23:16] <guest-6ONWRk> I set it so that not required for login
[23:17] <OerHeks> autologin or a nonsupported tweak?
[23:17] <guest-6ONWRk> and now on login screen just puts name of user
[23:17] <guest-6ONWRk> only
[23:17] <k1l> guest-6ONWRk: what did you do exactly?
[23:17] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: oh i dont know the difrence between a ppa and a repo i guess so thats probably why i couldent answer your question lol I had already did what it says on that page because im inpatent lol do i need to some how undo that now or does it not matter ? and what should my next step be
[23:18] <guest-6ONWRk> o.k last night I installed Mate, and i disabled password for user login
[23:18] <kubis> A ppa is an unofficial repository.
[23:18] <f8mf8_> Hi everyone. Somewhat of a newbie question
[23:18] <guest-6ONWRk> and when i turn computer on today it comes to login screen but cant login
[23:18] <f8mf8_>  I neeed help upgradin byobu on my server
[23:18] <daftykins> f8mf8_: on what version?
[23:19] <k1l> guest-6ONWRk: how did you disable it?
[23:19] <f8mf8_> I have 5.74 on server and need 5.98 to match my local install
[23:19] <daftykins> guest-6ONWRk: test at a TTY, ctrl+alt+F1
[23:19] <daftykins> f8mf8_: the ubuntu version?
[23:19] <daftykins> (is what?)
[23:19] <guest-6ONWRk> on USERS and GROUPS menu
[23:19] <f8mf8_> When I log in now, the bottom status bar just replicates upward with every refresh.
[23:19] <guest-6ONWRk> I believe
[23:20] <froike> !dns
[23:20] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Now I am the one that is lost . What is the problem you are experiencing with kdenlive ? Could be an issue you need to take up with the authpr of the PPA ??? PPAs are not supported in this support channel as a PPA is non-ubuntu .
[23:20] <Guest47430> what Ubuntu recommends a driver card for b43 Broadcom ?
[23:20] <daftykins> !broadcom
[23:20] <f8mf8_> daftykins: I have ubuntu 14.04 on server and running new arch on local pc. Had xubuntu localy until now.
[23:20] <VFDPrim> it just does not have all of the tools
[23:20] <VFDPrim> in program
[23:20] <daftykins> f8mf8_: if you can find a PPA for it, then you can update - otherwise, compile from source.
[23:21] <VFDPrim> probably not something for here i guess
[23:22] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: As a suggestion. purge that PPA and install from our repo .
[23:22] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | VFDPrim
[23:22] <VFDPrim> ok how do i do that
[23:22] <VFDPrim> lol thanks
[23:22] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: ^^ ppa-purge .
[23:23] <f8mf8_> I downloaded the .tar.gz for that version and tried to install on server with the comand in the install file, but did nothing, some errors showed up as not being able to create some directories due to permission
[23:23] <f8mf8_> but it was run with sudo
[23:23] <VFDPrim> how do i find out the repo name and subdirectory it is in
[23:23] <aotea> Seem to have same issue as seen in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2268214 - I got memtest installed and set "chmod +x" - updated grub and still no menu option for running memtest in Grub. Is my only option tearing the ram out and trying it in another computer?
[23:23] <daftykins> f8mf8_: likely it didn't work right, run "sudo -i" then run it
[23:23] <k1l> guest-6ONWRk: can you login in tty1?
[23:24] <hajk> hi, i am pretty new to linux and just installed lubuntu on my netbook. i have to learn to use the terminal. any idea how to get started? Are there any importand things to install first?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Don think'n cap ... read and understand .. the PPA name is " ppa:sunab/kdenlive-release " from the PPA page .
[23:25] <daftykins> hajk: there's a free course called LFS101x on edx.org that can help
[23:27] <buildit> OerHeks, I thought that might be his only option  :(
[23:29] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Be aware, we are here to help. But, we can not tell you how to administer your system . it is your system; do it your way - if the system allows .
[23:30] <hajk> daftykins, thank you i will try it put, and come back after i finished it in about 6 weeks :)
[23:30] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om: i trust you and am working on it right now sorry i dont always comprehend things right witch is why i need a step by step allot of the time.
[23:31] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: ppa purge successfull now what do i to to get it from the repo
[23:31] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Hang on here, you will learn . We all did ( and I still do !) .
[23:31] <svetlana> hajk: hi! welcome to ubuntu. you don't have to learn to use the Terminal; everything you need can be done without it. if you have some specific things to accomplish in mind, please let me know.
[23:32] <VFDPrim> bashing-om: sadly due to disabilities i probably wont but i am sure trying lol
[23:32] <f8mf8_> daftykins: thanks it ran and seems to have installed fine with "sudo -i", but the problem is still there. how do I check if "byobu" is launching the right version?
[23:32] <svetlana> hajk: if you are intent on general learning, I would advise to go through the help documentation as a whole (without particular focus on the terminal) as it would give you a reasonable overview of the system components and how they interact.
[23:32] <daftykins> "which byobu" - you should really have removed the other before installing a second.
[23:32] <hajk> svetlana, i have to learn it for school, and to get my certificate for my working place
[23:33] <Bashing-om> I expect that the fetch still exist on the system . one should delete that source. I expect it to be in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory .
[23:33] <svetlana> hajk: to learn ... terminal ... for school? how do they phrase the requirement?
[23:33] <f8mf8_> daftykins: just a little more info, at first tmux didn't work either, so I upgraded tmux and it works now if I launch it standalone without byobu, but byobu still does the same thing, "byobu -v" gives me the new versions
[23:33] <daftykins> *shrug* i don't know where your install would've put it and i don't know what problem you mention
[23:34] <hajk> svetlana, its by doing it on a theoreticle basis on a piece of paper, but i want to lern it by using linux
[23:34] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: We all have our crosses to bear, we make adjustments . I have mine in spades and I am still here .
[23:35] <svetlana> hajk: you are welcome to learn linux for anything (I just think that learning terminal specifically is not a part of the requirement) but if the requirement is learning to do something via terminal then it may be easier to find good resources
[23:35] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om: lol yes i know we all do witch is why I refuse to give up on linux lol so now that i cleared that ppa how do it do it from the repository that you where talking about
[23:35] <k1l> !terminal | hajk
[23:35] <VFDPrim> you can point me in the way of a website if prefered
[23:36] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Thunderstorms in progress here . I am shutting down .. I be back and see how you are doiong later .
[23:36] <VFDPrim> bashing-om ok hope its not to bad of a storm
[23:37] <hajk> thank you all, i will leave now and try to learn something about linux, see you next time :)
[23:39] <f8mf8_> daftykins: Just wanted to say thanks, I'll keep trying later today. Thanks for the help! ps. It is running the new 5.98 install but error continues. oh well for now...
[23:41] <neldogz> So i replaced my motherboard with the exact same model and now neither grub nor Ubuntu is detected upon bootup, Windows 10 boots up straight away which is odd.. anyone else encounter this type of problem? I installed both Windos 10 and 4Ubuntu using UEFI mode
[23:41] <daftykins> change the boot item from 'Windows Boot Manager' to Ubuntu/GRUB
[23:42] <neldogz> daftykins, ubuntu is no longer an option .. I guess that gets saved in the form of a secure boot key in bios,, which of course is on the board I no longer have
[23:43] <neldogz> daftykins, i guess windows 10 booted because there must be a default secure boot key saved in the bios
[23:43] <daftykins> EriC^^: your skills are needed :>
[23:43] <daftykins> yeah or it reads the disk
[23:44] <daftykins> i'd bet the approach you need involves efibootmgr
[23:44] <daftykins> but i have no experience with it.
[23:44] <EriC^^> daftykins: :D
[23:44] <daftykins> \o/
[23:44] <EriC^^> neldogz: can you boot a live usb?
[23:45] <neldogz> EriC^^, yes, booting now
[23:46] <aotea> Anyone know how to get memtest options in Grub on a uefi system? I've tried chmod+x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest and updating grub. But still no option available.
[23:47] <OerHeks> aotea, there is no memtest86 on UEFI, reason: We need 16-bit boot, which isn't available on EFI.
[23:47] <OerHeks> use a live iso in legacy mode
[23:48] <aotea> OerHeks, tried but I keep getting booted into my current system :(
[23:49] <OerHeks> uefi bios can be nasty to manage
[23:49] <daftykins> typically there's a one-time boot menu key to press
[23:49] <daftykins> what brand of system is that?
[23:50] <neldogz> EriC^^, creating a new bootable usb
[23:51] <aotea> daftykins, Asus N55SF laptop
[23:52] <daftykins> ah, so escape on the asus logo or a function key can give a menu
[23:53] <aotea> daftykins, I've been into the bios and disabled UEFI, but that in turn makes my live usb disappear.
[23:53] <EriC^^> maybe the bios has a built in mem test?
[23:53] <EriC^^> diagnostics or something?
[23:53] <daftykins> nah
[23:54] <daftykins> usually enabling CSM/legacy and prioritising CSM should work