[00:06] <mamarley> clivejo: Looks like it worked for me too, thanks!
[00:12] <valorie> clivejo: if you don't already have a bouncer account, just mention you'll need OFTC as well as freenode and it will be set up that way
[01:05] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: please make a blog post on how you configured gpg-agent
[01:05] <ovidiu-florin> and post it here
[01:06] <ovidiu-florin> and on Kubuntu wire
[01:06]  * ovidiu-florin is of to bed
[01:06] <ovidiu-florin> night all
[09:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:03] <ovidiu-florin> morning lordievader
[11:04] <clivejo> hummmm
[11:04] <ovidiu-florin> mornin' clivejo
[11:04] <clivejo> Ive missed 11hours of history
[11:04] <clivejo> hi ovidiu-florin
[11:04] <ovidiu-florin> what history?
[11:05] <clivejo> KDE Bouncer
[11:05] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin, clivejo. How are you two doing?
[11:05] <clivejo> must be a limit on it
[11:05] <clivejo> hi lordievader
[11:06] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: are you still here?
[11:06] <clivejo> very tired here
[11:06] <lordievader> clivejo: Too little sleep?
[11:06] <clivejo> yeah
[11:06] <ovidiu-florin> I just got out of bed and.. my dog is sick again... :(
[11:06] <clivejo> I have period of bad sleep
[11:07] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: That ain't good :(
[11:07] <lordievader> clivejo: :(
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: did what you worked on last night work?
[11:07] <clivejo> but got up normal time and walked/played with the pup
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> I have to go to the vet again... he hates the vet
[11:07] <lordievader> All dogs do...
[11:08] <ovidiu-florin> not my dad's
[11:08] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: I got gpg-agent working
[11:08] <clivejo> but was too tired to retry staging
[11:08] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: how is he sick?
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: can you blog about the gpg-agent?
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> please :D
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> he puked this morning
[11:10] <clivejo> I dont know about it, I just read and read until I find the answer!
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> but the vet is for anti-fleas formula
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: then please be a master and share the answer with the rest of us :D
[11:10] <clivejo> it was the pinentry-qt was the problem
[11:11] <clivejo> gpg-agent captures the passphase via a graphical prompt
[11:11] <clivejo> it wasnt doing that
 mamarley: created a file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
 added the following
 pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt
 no-grab
 default-cache-ttl 1800
[11:12] <clivejo> now it pops up the prompt and remembers it
[11:13] <ovidiu-florin> great blog post
[11:13] <clivejo> should I try running staging again?
[11:13] <clivejo> :P
[11:13] <ovidiu-florin> go ahead (what do I know)
[11:13] <clivejo> is yofel about today?
[11:14] <ovidiu-florin> usually in the late evening, perhaps night
[11:14] <ovidiu-florin> if his ISP fixes his network connection
[11:14] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun_: ping
[11:16] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: would you pause KCI pleasE?
[11:18] <clivejo> hi lisandro
[11:20]  * clivejo pokes ovidiu-florin with the fire poker
[11:23] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: ^
[11:23] <clivejo> thanks :)
[11:26] <clivejo> I swear these scripts hate me
[11:26] <clivejo> subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'clone', 'git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/plasma/bluedevil', 'git']' returned non-zero exit status 128
[11:27] <yofel> moin
[11:28] <clivejo> hi yofel
[11:28] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: you have git commit access?
[11:28] <yofel> hm, does that commnad work for you by hand? moszumanska has a tendency to time out occasionally
[11:28] <ovidiu-florin> hello yofel
[11:28] <clivejo> it worked last night
[11:29] <clivejo> just gpg-agent was being a &£"&*£7
[11:30] <clivejo> ssh: connect to host git.debian.org port 22: Connection timed out
[11:30] <clivejo> strange
[11:31] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: yes I do
[11:31] <clivejo> is there a status page for debian git?
[11:33] <ovidiu-florin> ping the server
[11:34] <clivejo> no reply from moszumanska.debian.org
[11:34] <clivejo> can you ping it ovidiu-florin?
[11:34] <ovidiu-florin> nope, it's dead
[11:34] <ovidiu-florin> I pinged git.debian.org
[11:34] <clivejo> I cant even get on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/
[11:35] <ovidiu-florin> it's dead
[11:35] <ovidiu-florin> ping debian sysadmins
[11:38] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: can you un-pause KCI, dont think these are going to be done today!
[11:39] <mitya57> clivejo, ovidiu-florin, https://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2015/12/msg00000.html
[11:39] <clivejo> thanks mitya57
[11:40] <ovidiu-florin> thanks mitya57
[11:40] <clivejo> we should add that to our topic :P
[11:43] <clivejo> anyone know how to make my KDE bouncer buffer bigger?
[11:45] <clivejo> grrr
[11:45] <clivejo> today is not a computer day
[11:46] <clivejo> is http://bnc.kde.org:7778/ broken too?
[11:51] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: do anything more on the dos?
[11:51] <clivejo> docs?
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> wrote this then got distractted https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> thanks for hitting me
[11:52] <clivejo> you can always rely on me to hit you ;)
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> add your name in the top right
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: which one is needed for commit to KA?
[11:56] <clivejo> ninjas I think
[12:03] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: be right back
[12:03] <clivejo> no prob
[12:05] <mparillo> clivejo: Try https://bnc.kde.org:7778/ instead
[12:05] <clivejo> thanks mparillo I opened a link I used last night in my history
[12:06] <clivejo> mparillo: any idea what a sane buffer limit would be for kubuntu-devel?
[12:07] <mparillo> clivejo: I have 2000, because I have not figured out how to supress the CI messages.
[12:07] <clivejo> LOL 
[12:07] <clivejo> I just put 200
[12:08] <ovidiu-florin> now really brb
[12:08] <clivejo> do you ever reach that limit?
[12:08]  * ovidiu-florin has no limits :P
[12:10] <mparillo> clivejo: No, but I try to get on twice a day (before and after $work). At $work, the IRC port is blocked. If your limit gets really big, you might need to change your Konversation Configuration Behavior Chat Window Scrollback Limit.
[12:11] <clivejo> mparillo: is there any way to get Quaseel to set a marker, to mark the buffer replay position?
[12:12] <mparillo> Not sure. I kinda miss Quassel, but Kubuntu moved to Konversation and I along with it.
[12:13] <clivejo> I though it was the other way around :/
[12:32] <mparillo> Kubuntu had been on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quassel_IRC since 2009.04, but IIRC went to Konversation along with the Plasma 5 / Qt 5 migration.
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> back
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: are you crazy?
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> you wrote so much!!
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> great job
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:52] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[13:52] <BluesKaj> hi soee 
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo clivejo you're both wrong
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> Konversation had some issues, so the Kubuntu team at the time was kind of forced to switch to Quassel
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> which is not a KDE project BTW
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> when Konversation got fixed, they switched back
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> that's the story
[14:20] <lisandro> clivejo: hi!
[15:06] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: does it make sense?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> so what changes can we expect in the alpha release on thursday?
[15:08] <clivejo> for kubuntu, dont expect too much :P
[15:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, thought so...plasma 5.5 still sitting on the shelf...wisj I could halp, but my skills are lacking.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> help even
[15:11] <clivejo> just a busy time of year for most people
[15:13] <clivejo> anyone know if I can change my connection line via KDE Bouncer
[15:15] <BluesKaj> clivejo:  there's a bouncer on frenode that I used for a while 
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Server: orion.trekweb.org
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Port: 5709, use SSL
[15:16] <clivejo> I have KDE one setup and working
[15:17] <BluesKaj> clivejo: didn't know kde had one
[15:17] <clivejo> BluesKaj: https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC
[15:23] <BluesKaj> I dropped the bouncer after i setup the vpn ...there wasn't much I found so interesting in the scrollbacks after logging in after a few months of using the boncer so I stopped using it 
[15:24] <clivejo> BluesKaj: being in different time zone, I though it would be handy to have
[15:25] <clivejo> sometimes feel like Ive missed information or part of a conversation
[15:27] <BluesKaj> seems we're all in different time zones, and i found searching thru the text became too time consuming to be useful, but I'm easily bored, your experience may be diffewrent :-)
[15:28] <clivejo> I wonder can I get quassel to mark the start of buffer line 
[15:35] <BluesKaj> konversation user here, sorry i can't help 
[15:35] <clivejo> might switch to konversation actuall
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta check my bootup ...it's suddenly really slow agian this morning
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, the swap uuid was wrong after I dumped debian on the same hdd as swap
[15:43] <BluesKaj> much better now
[16:21] <clivejo> BluesKaj: any good at prove reading?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> proof reading ... my spelling is quite good, just my KB skills are a bit lacking :-)
[16:23] <BluesKaj> clivejo:  what do you have in mind?
[16:23] <clivejo> Im dyslexic!
[16:23] <clivejo> just check over https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[16:23] <clivejo> see if it makes sense
[16:25] <BluesKaj> unfortunately I don't have credentials to login to that site
[16:25] <clivejo> oh, you arent registered KDE ?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> i think so, let me check my login/pw files
[16:30] <BluesKaj> nope, just kubuntu , not kde
[16:32] <clivejo> no prob
[16:37] <BluesKaj> clivejo:  maybe you post it on pastebin or some such and I can check it over there
[16:38] <BluesKaj> could post 
[16:39] <clivejo> its ok, it will probably be copied to the wiki
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ok 
[16:49] <yofel> ovidiu-florin, clivejo: KA is ~kubuntu-packagers, I fixed that in the notes
[16:50] <clivejo> thanks
[16:50] <clivejo> is there a script for uploading?
[16:51] <yofel> and my internet is fixed, hurray. (Loose wire in one of the telephone sockets)
[16:51] <yofel> uploading what to where?
[16:52] <clivejo> staging to PPA
[16:52] <yofel> no
[16:52] <clivejo> Ill remove that then
[16:52] <yofel> that's one command, no point in scripting that
[16:53] <yofel> there is ubuntu-archive-upload, which is similiar to staging-upload as it does git stuff and package creation for the archive
[16:53] <ScottK> Well, there is a script.  It's name is dput.
[16:53] <yofel> well. yes. true that
[17:01] <clivejo> yofel: does that make sense and are we missing anything/wrong in the instructions?
[17:09] <yofel> clivejo: fixing a couple things, also note that changelog entries usually start with a capital letter (as do git commit messages)
[17:09] <yofel> also, -m is optional for staging-upload
[17:10] <clivejo> and dont usually put the wrong version number *face palms*
[17:10] <yofel> ^^
[17:11]  * clivejo remembers the time he put the wrong version number in the changelog
[17:11] <clivejo> that was fun!
[17:15] <clivejo> is -m not good practice?
[17:18] <lordievader> git -m? No, Git wants you to give commit messages a title and a body.
[17:18] <yofel> lordievader: different script
[17:19] <clivejo> yofel: looks like debian git is back up
[17:19] <lordievader> Never mind then, haven't said a thing ;)
[17:19] <yofel> -m is useful when you need something OTHER than "New upstream release", as that's the default value
[17:19] <yofel> it was added to be used together with --sru
[17:20] <clivejo> I see, should I take that out then?
[17:20] <yofel> I already did
[17:21] <yofel> I also added a message saying that --help is useable for all scripts
[17:21] <yofel> we should verfiy that and also review the help messages
[17:21] <clivejo> we should also keep the working directory consistent 
[17:22] <clivejo> step 6 has it ~/workspace/plasma
[17:22] <yofel> right, at least inside one workflow
[17:22] <clivejo> 9 as /src/plasma
[17:22] <yofel> well, different people wrote the README :P
[17:23] <clivejo> what would you prefer?
[17:23] <yofel> lets go with workspace
[17:23] <yofel> I use neither of that, as that's personal preference
[17:24] <clivejo> what do you use?
[17:25] <yofel> depending on the situation, /tmp/something or ~/dump/kubuntu/tmp/something
[17:25] <yofel> workspace is fine
[17:25] <clivejo> is dump a self cleaning folder?
[17:26] <yofel> it was at some point, not anymore
[17:26] <yofel> hence /tmp
[17:26] <clivejo> clever
[17:26] <clivejo> should consider that
[17:27] <clivejo> auto delete after a certain amount of time
[17:28] <clivejo> yofel: could you pause KCI, I want to try running staging-upload again
[17:28] <clivejo> debian appears to be back online
[17:28] <yofel> staging-upload doesn't require ci pause
[17:29] <yofel> git-push-all does
[17:30] <yofel> ping me again when you need to push, I'll be around for most of the evening
[17:30] <clivejo> glad to have your internet fixed I bet!
[17:30] <yofel> YES
[17:31] <clivejo> Im hoping ovidiu-florin will be online later, so we can work on some more guides
[17:31] <clivejo> its kinda fun
[17:33] <yofel> I actually dug stuff up in the trash bin: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ReleasePackaging?action=recall&rev=9 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment?action=recall&rev=14
[17:33] <yofel> most of that is obsolete, but there are a couple still useful notes in there
[17:34] <clivejo> yofel: how come we dont use that wiki on kubuntu.org?
[17:34] <yofel> because initial login to the wiki can take you hours (never log out, seriously), and I think we wanted to build wiki-based docs, which was only possible with mediawiki.
[17:35] <yofel> so in the end everyone was fed up with moinmoin and we switched to community which is mediawiki
[17:35] <clivejo> I like the way its branded kubuntu
[17:35] <clivejo> could we not host our own wikimedia install and have it nicely branded?
[17:36] <yofel> well, we can move BACK if we want to... 
[17:36] <yofel> find a maintainer for it and we can
[17:36] <yofel> wiki spam protection is quite a bit of work
[17:36] <clivejo> I find the KDE one hard to read and boring :/
[17:37] <yofel> well, the *content* is our fault :P
[17:37] <clivejo> would you not lock it down to a handful of registered users?
[17:38] <yofel> the point of a wiki is kind of to have everyone contribute to it...
[17:38] <yofel> we can just write RCS pages like our current docs otherwise
[17:38] <clivejo> well to a certain degree
[17:38] <clivejo> not every Tom Dick or Harry
[17:39] <clivejo> but having to apply for membership here wouldnt be a big deal?
[17:39] <clivejo> or maybe link it with LP?
[17:40] <clivejo> the way KCI works?
[17:40] <yofel> seriously, all of that would be more work than just using moinmoin again..
[17:40] <yofel> and we already don't do a good job with server maintenance, so lets not add even more stuff to maintain
[17:41] <clivejo> Id help out, I have a few mediawiki installs
[17:42] <clivejo> who does the server maintenance anyways?
[18:01] <clivejo> yofel: has there been changes to the KA scripts?  I am noticing that it is bumping the extra-cmake-modules in control file to (>= 5.17.0~)
[18:02] <clivejo> the last one to go by was at (>= 0.0.9) now been bumped up
[18:03] <yofel> no idea
[18:03] <yofel> not from me at least
[18:03] <yofel> the debian merges might have brought that in
[18:07] <clivejo> yes, thats what happened
[18:08] <clivejo> ok two are in manual
[18:08] <clivejo> discover and kwin
[18:09] <clivejo> ah, the patch needs taking out of kwin
[18:10] <clivejo> Add_workaround_for_broken_no-XRandr_in_screen_edge_test.patch as it was cherry picked from upstream
[18:10] <clivejo> which branch do I need to change?
[18:13] <yofel> kwin was the complicated thing
[18:13] <clivejo> yup
[18:13] <clivejo> I manually merged in the two archive changes
[18:14] <clivejo> one was that patch, but that now needs removed
[18:14] <yofel> I would apply the changes to a new branch coming from the old archive state (there should be a git tag for the upload)
[18:14] <yofel> then merge said branch into kubuntu_xenial_archive, fix things up and remove the patch
[18:15] <yofel> OR you just apply the relevant change by hand
[18:15] <yofel> which is what rohan suggested yesterday
[18:16] <clivejo> yofel: thats what I did, but the patch is still in the xenial branch
[18:16] <yofel> then drop it
[18:16] <clivejo> Im unsure how
[18:16] <yofel> git rm ?
[18:17] <clivejo> Im in the manual/kwin/git
[18:17] <clivejo> and have rm -r patches
[18:17] <clivejo> and added a changelog entry
[18:17] <clivejo> can I push the changes from here?
[18:17] <yofel> then do git add -u or so
[18:23] <clivejo> should I just upload what I have done so far?
[18:23] <clivejo> need to go for an hour or so
[18:24] <clivejo> I could leave it uploading to the PPA
[18:25] <clivejo> fix kwin later
[18:25] <clivejo> yofel: ^
[18:26] <yofel> sure
[18:26] <clivejo> ok, uploading
[18:26] <clivejo> Ill be back later :)
[19:30] <soee_> yofel: can you update 5.5.1labels to 5.5.2 in status page http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/  ?
[19:31] <yofel> oh, he didn't do that, sec
[19:32] <yofel> done
[19:37] <soee_> i see old ones :D
[19:37] <soee_> also kwin and discover are 5.5.1 while others are 5.5.2  on the status list ?
[19:38] <yofel> page generation is cronned, come back in ~4min
[19:38] <yofel> they're missing, need fixing
[19:38] <soee_> aaah :)
[19:39] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: hows teh work on packaging docs going ?
[19:43] <soee_> yofel: i tihnk 5.5.2 can be removed now fromthe status list?
[19:43] <soee_> sorry 5.5.1
[19:44] <yofel> too lazy for that
[19:52] <soee_> i would do that i i would know how :D
[19:53] <yofel> you could send in a patch for the script to auto-remove old stuff
[19:53] <yofel> need shell access to the server right now
[19:53] <yofel> *needs
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: I'm back
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> kind of...
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> I'll read through the docs
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> I've skimmed through the IRC backlog, do I need to look more in depth?
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> depot.kde.org does not work, it that the right link?
[21:35] <tsimonq2> is Kubuntu affected by bug 1527353, or not?
[21:35] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: ssh/sftp only
[21:35] <yofel> I think
[21:47] <soee_> yofel: Frameworks 5.17 are they any hard to fix to build ?
[21:48] <ahoneybunn> o/
[21:50] <yofel> soee_: there's one package that's utterly broken
[21:50] <ahoneybunn> so apps 15.12 is the latest?
[21:51] <soee_> latest release yes
[21:55] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: can you please help in the docs with line 21 and 61?
[21:56] <ahoneybunn> mm
[21:57]  * ahoneybunn is having server issues
[22:00]  * clivejo is having power issues
[22:01] <clivejo> Storm Fred took out the power for a few hours
[22:02] <clivejo> and I have no history of how many packages I got uploaded before the power went out
[22:02] <clivejo> yofel: you about?
[22:04]  * ovidiu-florin is having beer issues
[22:05] <yofel> clivejo: just re-upload everything (if you can)
[22:05] <yofel> otherwise just look at the PPA
[22:05] <yofel> or your acceptance emails
[22:06] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: can you give some feedback on lines 21 and 61 please?
[22:07] <ahoneybun> yay my znc server is working again
[22:07] <clivejo> looks like they all made it
[22:08] <clivejo> user-manager_5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_source.ppa.upload
[22:08] <clivejo> well thats good
[22:08] <clivejo> yofel: ok regarding kwin
[22:08] <clivejo> I have made the changes to the git folder
[22:09] <clivejo> but when I try to push the commit it wants to push to the master branch as well
[22:09] <clivejo> I use git gui
[22:09] <ahoneybun> wow a new mediacenter
[22:09] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: why magic? All it does it run git push --follow-tags on all the git repositories
[22:10] <yofel> after a CI paused check
[22:10] <ovidiu-florin> ok,let me put it this way
[22:10] <ovidiu-florin> "I dont' know anything about packaging" Why should I run that command?
[22:10] <ahoneybun> I have to go 
[22:10] <ahoneybun> now that my ZNC is up I'll see all the messages over IRC now
[22:11] <yofel> well, this is about git basics, if you clone and change stuff, you will eventually have to push
[22:11] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: do you also have changes on the master branch ?
[22:11] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: I dont want the changes to master
[22:11] <clivejo> master is debian stuff
[22:12] <clivejo> dont want to be messing with that
[22:12] <ovidiu-florin> then push only the changes on the branch you want
[22:12] <ovidiu-florin> or revert the changes to master you've made
[22:12] <clivejo> but how do I do that using git gui?
[22:14] <clivejo> but when I do a git status I get
[22:14] <clivejo> On branch kubuntu_xenial_archive
[22:14] <clivejo> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/kubuntu_xenial_archive' by 2 commits.
[22:14] <clivejo>   (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
[22:14] <clivejo> nothing to commit, working directory clean
[22:14] <clivejo> I dont understand why git gui wants to push to master#
[22:14] <yofel> I have no idea how git gui works, I never use that
[22:15] <clivejo> yofel you think its safe enough to do a git push?
[22:15] <yofel> just do a git push origin kubuntu_xenial_archive to be on the safe side
[22:16] <clivejo> done
[22:18] <clivejo> yofel: how to I retry packaging kwin?
[22:18] <clivejo> git-buildpackage-ppa ?
[22:18] <yofel> yep
[22:18] <clivejo> what folder?
[22:18] <clivejo> git?
[22:18] <yofel> yes
[22:19] <clivejo> sorry, just checking
[22:19] <clivejo> I need practice at this
[22:19] <clivejo> ok that seems to have built
[22:20] <clivejo> I have a changes file
[22:20] <clivejo> cp this folder back into the workspace root?
[22:20] <yofel> doesn't matter
[22:21] <clivejo> its ok to leave it in manual?
[22:21] <yofel> yes
[22:21] <clivejo> will git-all script see it there?
[22:22] <yofel> you already pushed, so it doesn't have to
[22:22] <clivejo> oh, yeah was just about to say
[22:22] <clivejo> duh
[22:22] <yofel> git-push-all will only push the non-failures
[22:23] <yofel> if you want it to push the manual stuff too, then yes, you need to move them out of manual
[22:23] <clivejo> got ya
[22:24] <clivejo> uploaded kwin to staging PPA
[22:24] <clivejo> discover doesnt seem to exist
[22:24] <clivejo> was it renamed?
[22:25] <clivejo> oh its looking for 5.5.1
[22:25] <yofel> formerly muon(-discover)
[22:26] <clivejo> yofel: it hasnt staged the packaging for discover
[22:26] <yofel> branch or repo missing maybe
[22:27] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/discover.git/log/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive
[22:27] <clivejo> xenial branch is there
[22:27] <yofel> no idea what happened then
[22:28] <clivejo> and sgclark updated it to 5.5.1
[22:28] <clivejo> can it be staged manually?
[22:28] <clivejo> oh rerun the script with just that one package?
[22:32] <clivejo> discover has never been released and had a 4: epoch :/
[22:32] <clivejo> yofel: can I set the version back to discover (4:5.5.2-0ubuntu1)
[22:37] <clivejo> ok, Ive bumped the version and uploaded the package to LP
[22:38] <clivejo> would you pause KCI so I can do some magic "git-push-all -t  ~/workspace/plasma/ -r plasma"
[22:39] <yofel> if it has and need an epoch you'll likely have to add it to the epoch lists
[22:39] <yofel> wherever needed
[22:41] <clivejo> invalid option: -r
[22:44] <clivejo> I guess thats not needed!
[22:44] <clivejo> need to update the readme and packaging docs
[22:48] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: regarding line 64, the script is called staging-upload.  The process of staging is preparing the packages for an upload to LP.  Basically the step before
[22:51] <clivejo> yofel: Ive bumped the version in build-status-config/plasma.conf to 5.5.2
[22:51] <yofel> clivejo: you'll get a push/pull conflict, as I already did that
[22:51] <clivejo> so I see
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> that doc. is still not noob friendly enough
[22:52]  * ovidiu-florin thinks on how we can improve it
[22:52] <clivejo> yofel: I was looking for a commit message!
[22:52] <ScottK> Those of you who are new are the only ones who can improve such docs.
[22:52] <ScottK> For people that really know the stuff already, they can't tell if it's clear/complete or not.
[22:52] <clivejo> do you leave is blank?
[22:53] <clivejo> oh I see it now - Build plasma 5.5.2
[22:53] <clivejo> cool
[22:54] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: anyone can do it
[22:55] <ovidiu-florin> just think of what you have to do in order to set up a machine for you to work on from scratch
[22:59] <valorie> ScottK is right -- new people have the magic of ignorance
[22:59] <valorie> new people are the best ones for testing out how good docs are
[23:00]  * clivejo nods knowingly
[23:00] <valorie> that's why I started my blog -- to write instructions for people who know as little as me
[23:00] <valorie> :-)
[23:00] <clivejo> and having a yofel on hand is the best way!
[23:00] <valorie> for sure
[23:01] <valorie> but if the new people can fix the docs to put in all those steps that the experts know, and therefore don't put in the docs 
[23:01] <valorie> we'll have docs that can lead the beginner into Being Productive
[23:01] <valorie> that will make everybody's job easier
[23:04] <valorie> I'm so happy to see this starting
[23:04] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: have you experience using mediawiki?
[23:05] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[23:05] <clivejo> how do you feel about moving  wiki.kubuntu.org back to mediawiki? 
[23:05]  * genii makes more coffee
[23:06] <ovidiu-florin> wiki.kubuntu.org never was on mediawiki
[23:06] <ovidiu-florin> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu is mediawiki
[23:07] <clivejo> well remove the words back to
[23:07] <yofel> clivejo: are you done pushing?
[23:07] <clivejo> yes
[23:07] <clivejo> can you unpause please
[23:07] <clivejo> thanking you kindly
[23:10] <clivejo> yofel: reckon its safe to override these lintian complaints - https://paste.kde.org/pcbnxdxyt
[23:23] <yofel> no, no, no, and the last one is probably a follow up error from the previous ones
[23:23] <clivejo> dratts
[23:23] <yofel> well, depends on what those things do
[23:24] <yofel> if they're plugins, then they should at least not be in the main lib dir, or if they're libs then the soversion is missing
[23:25] <clivejo> kwin has some missing local files
[23:25] <clivejo> -./usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/kwin_scripts.mo
[23:26] <clivejo> can I put them in kwin-data.install?
[23:27] <yofel> yes, and wildcard it for the lang, i.e. locale/*/LC_..
[23:47] <clivejo> yofel: what does W: libkf5screen6: symbols-declares-dependency-on-other-package libkf5screen7 #MINVER# mean?
[23:55] <clivejo> should the version be 7?