[00:06] clivejo: Looks like it worked for me too, thanks! [00:12] clivejo: if you don't already have a bouncer account, just mention you'll need OFTC as well as freenode and it will be set up that way === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [01:05] clivejo: please make a blog post on how you configured gpg-agent [01:05] and post it here [01:06] and on Kubuntu wire [01:06] * ovidiu-florin is of to bed [01:06] night all [09:15] Good morning. [11:03] morning lordievader [11:04] hummmm [11:04] mornin' clivejo [11:04] Ive missed 11hours of history [11:04] hi ovidiu-florin [11:04] what history? [11:05] KDE Bouncer [11:05] Hey ovidiu-florin, clivejo. How are you two doing? [11:05] must be a limit on it [11:05] hi lordievader [11:06] valorie: are you still here? [11:06] very tired here [11:06] clivejo: Too little sleep? [11:06] yeah [11:06] I just got out of bed and.. my dog is sick again... :( [11:06] I have period of bad sleep [11:07] ovidiu-florin: That ain't good :( [11:07] clivejo: :( [11:07] clivejo: did what you worked on last night work? [11:07] but got up normal time and walked/played with the pup [11:07] I have to go to the vet again... he hates the vet [11:07] All dogs do... [11:08] not my dad's [11:08] ovidiu-florin: I got gpg-agent working [11:08] but was too tired to retry staging [11:08] ovidiu-florin: how is he sick? [11:09] clivejo: can you blog about the gpg-agent? [11:09] please :D [11:09] he puked this morning [11:10] I dont know about it, I just read and read until I find the answer! [11:10] but the vet is for anti-fleas formula [11:10] clivejo: then please be a master and share the answer with the rest of us :D [11:10] it was the pinentry-qt was the problem [11:11] gpg-agent captures the passphase via a graphical prompt [11:11] it wasnt doing that [11:11] mamarley: created a file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf [11:11] added the following [11:11] pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt [11:11] no-grab [11:11] default-cache-ttl 1800 [11:12] now it pops up the prompt and remembers it [11:13] great blog post [11:13] should I try running staging again? [11:13] :P [11:13] go ahead (what do I know) [11:13] is yofel about today? [11:14] usually in the late evening, perhaps night [11:14] if his ISP fixes his network connection [11:14] ahoneybun_: ping [11:16] ovidiu-florin: would you pause KCI pleasE? [11:18] hi lisandro [11:20] * clivejo pokes ovidiu-florin with the fire poker [11:23] clivejo: ^ [11:23] thanks :) [11:26] I swear these scripts hate me [11:26] subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'clone', 'git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/plasma/bluedevil', 'git']' returned non-zero exit status 128 [11:27] moin [11:28] hi yofel [11:28] clivejo: you have git commit access? [11:28] hm, does that commnad work for you by hand? moszumanska has a tendency to time out occasionally [11:28] hello yofel [11:28] it worked last night [11:29] just gpg-agent was being a &£"&*£7 [11:30] ssh: connect to host git.debian.org port 22: Connection timed out [11:30] strange [11:31] ovidiu-florin: yes I do [11:31] is there a status page for debian git? [11:33] ping the server [11:34] no reply from moszumanska.debian.org [11:34] can you ping it ovidiu-florin? [11:34] nope, it's dead [11:34] I pinged git.debian.org [11:34] I cant even get on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ [11:35] it's dead [11:35] ping debian sysadmins [11:38] ovidiu-florin: can you un-pause KCI, dont think these are going to be done today! [11:39] clivejo, ovidiu-florin, https://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2015/12/msg00000.html [11:39] thanks mitya57 [11:40] thanks mitya57 [11:40] we should add that to our topic :P [11:43] anyone know how to make my KDE bouncer buffer bigger? [11:45] grrr [11:45] today is not a computer day [11:46] is http://bnc.kde.org:7778/ broken too? [11:51] ovidiu-florin: do anything more on the dos? [11:51] docs? [11:52] wrote this then got distractted https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [11:52] thanks for hitting me [11:52] you can always rely on me to hit you ;) [11:52] add your name in the top right [11:56] clivejo: which one is needed for commit to KA? [11:56] ninjas I think [12:03] clivejo: be right back [12:03] no prob [12:05] clivejo: Try https://bnc.kde.org:7778/ instead [12:05] thanks mparillo I opened a link I used last night in my history [12:06] mparillo: any idea what a sane buffer limit would be for kubuntu-devel? [12:07] clivejo: I have 2000, because I have not figured out how to supress the CI messages. [12:07] LOL [12:07] I just put 200 [12:08] now really brb [12:08] do you ever reach that limit? [12:08] * ovidiu-florin has no limits :P [12:10] clivejo: No, but I try to get on twice a day (before and after $work). At $work, the IRC port is blocked. If your limit gets really big, you might need to change your Konversation Configuration Behavior Chat Window Scrollback Limit. [12:11] mparillo: is there any way to get Quaseel to set a marker, to mark the buffer replay position? [12:12] Not sure. I kinda miss Quassel, but Kubuntu moved to Konversation and I along with it. [12:13] I though it was the other way around :/ [12:32] Kubuntu had been on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quassel_IRC since 2009.04, but IIRC went to Konversation along with the Plasma 5 / Qt 5 migration. [13:47] back [13:47] clivejo: are you crazy? [13:47] you wrote so much!! [13:47] great job [13:50] Hey all [13:52] hiho BluesKaj [13:52] hi soee [13:54] mparillo clivejo you're both wrong [13:54] Konversation had some issues, so the Kubuntu team at the time was kind of forced to switch to Quassel [13:54] which is not a KDE project BTW [13:54] when Konversation got fixed, they switched back [13:54] that's the story [14:20] clivejo: hi! [15:06] ovidiu-florin: does it make sense? [15:07] so what changes can we expect in the alpha release on thursday? [15:08] for kubuntu, dont expect too much :P [15:10] yeah, thought so...plasma 5.5 still sitting on the shelf...wisj I could halp, but my skills are lacking. [15:10] help even [15:11] just a busy time of year for most people [15:13] anyone know if I can change my connection line via KDE Bouncer [15:15] clivejo: there's a bouncer on frenode that I used for a while [15:15] Server: orion.trekweb.org [15:15] Port: 5709, use SSL [15:16] I have KDE one setup and working [15:17] clivejo: didn't know kde had one [15:17] BluesKaj: https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC [15:23] I dropped the bouncer after i setup the vpn ...there wasn't much I found so interesting in the scrollbacks after logging in after a few months of using the boncer so I stopped using it [15:24] BluesKaj: being in different time zone, I though it would be handy to have [15:25] sometimes feel like Ive missed information or part of a conversation [15:27] seems we're all in different time zones, and i found searching thru the text became too time consuming to be useful, but I'm easily bored, your experience may be diffewrent :-) [15:28] I wonder can I get quassel to mark the start of buffer line [15:35] konversation user here, sorry i can't help [15:35] might switch to konversation actuall [15:39] ok , gotta check my bootup ...it's suddenly really slow agian this morning [15:42] yeah, the swap uuid was wrong after I dumped debian on the same hdd as swap [15:43] much better now [16:21] BluesKaj: any good at prove reading? [16:22] proof reading ... my spelling is quite good, just my KB skills are a bit lacking :-) [16:23] clivejo: what do you have in mind? [16:23] Im dyslexic! [16:23] just check over https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [16:23] see if it makes sense [16:25] unfortunately I don't have credentials to login to that site [16:25] oh, you arent registered KDE ? [16:27] i think so, let me check my login/pw files [16:30] nope, just kubuntu , not kde [16:32] no prob [16:37] clivejo: maybe you post it on pastebin or some such and I can check it over there [16:38] could post [16:39] its ok, it will probably be copied to the wiki [16:41] ok [16:49] ovidiu-florin, clivejo: KA is ~kubuntu-packagers, I fixed that in the notes [16:50] thanks [16:50] is there a script for uploading? [16:51] and my internet is fixed, hurray. (Loose wire in one of the telephone sockets) [16:51] uploading what to where? [16:52] staging to PPA [16:52] no [16:52] Ill remove that then [16:52] that's one command, no point in scripting that [16:53] there is ubuntu-archive-upload, which is similiar to staging-upload as it does git stuff and package creation for the archive [16:53] Well, there is a script. It's name is dput. [16:53] well. yes. true that [17:01] yofel: does that make sense and are we missing anything/wrong in the instructions? [17:09] clivejo: fixing a couple things, also note that changelog entries usually start with a capital letter (as do git commit messages) [17:09] also, -m is optional for staging-upload [17:10] and dont usually put the wrong version number *face palms* [17:10] ^^ [17:11] * clivejo remembers the time he put the wrong version number in the changelog [17:11] that was fun! [17:15] is -m not good practice? [17:18] git -m? No, Git wants you to give commit messages a title and a body. [17:18] lordievader: different script [17:19] yofel: looks like debian git is back up [17:19] Never mind then, haven't said a thing ;) [17:19] -m is useful when you need something OTHER than "New upstream release", as that's the default value [17:19] it was added to be used together with --sru [17:20] I see, should I take that out then? [17:20] I already did [17:21] I also added a message saying that --help is useable for all scripts [17:21] we should verfiy that and also review the help messages [17:21] we should also keep the working directory consistent [17:22] step 6 has it ~/workspace/plasma [17:22] right, at least inside one workflow [17:22] 9 as /src/plasma [17:22] well, different people wrote the README :P [17:23] what would you prefer? [17:23] lets go with workspace [17:23] I use neither of that, as that's personal preference [17:24] what do you use? [17:25] depending on the situation, /tmp/something or ~/dump/kubuntu/tmp/something [17:25] workspace is fine [17:25] is dump a self cleaning folder? [17:26] it was at some point, not anymore [17:26] hence /tmp [17:26] clever [17:26] should consider that [17:27] auto delete after a certain amount of time [17:28] yofel: could you pause KCI, I want to try running staging-upload again [17:28] debian appears to be back online [17:28] staging-upload doesn't require ci pause [17:29] git-push-all does [17:30] ping me again when you need to push, I'll be around for most of the evening [17:30] glad to have your internet fixed I bet! [17:30] YES [17:31] Im hoping ovidiu-florin will be online later, so we can work on some more guides [17:31] its kinda fun [17:33] I actually dug stuff up in the trash bin: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ReleasePackaging?action=recall&rev=9 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment?action=recall&rev=14 [17:33] most of that is obsolete, but there are a couple still useful notes in there [17:34] yofel: how come we dont use that wiki on kubuntu.org? [17:34] because initial login to the wiki can take you hours (never log out, seriously), and I think we wanted to build wiki-based docs, which was only possible with mediawiki. [17:35] so in the end everyone was fed up with moinmoin and we switched to community which is mediawiki [17:35] I like the way its branded kubuntu [17:35] could we not host our own wikimedia install and have it nicely branded? [17:36] well, we can move BACK if we want to... [17:36] find a maintainer for it and we can [17:36] wiki spam protection is quite a bit of work [17:36] I find the KDE one hard to read and boring :/ [17:37] well, the *content* is our fault :P [17:37] would you not lock it down to a handful of registered users? [17:38] the point of a wiki is kind of to have everyone contribute to it... [17:38] we can just write RCS pages like our current docs otherwise [17:38] well to a certain degree [17:38] not every Tom Dick or Harry [17:39] but having to apply for membership here wouldnt be a big deal? [17:39] or maybe link it with LP? [17:40] the way KCI works? [17:40] seriously, all of that would be more work than just using moinmoin again.. [17:40] and we already don't do a good job with server maintenance, so lets not add even more stuff to maintain [17:41] Id help out, I have a few mediawiki installs [17:42] who does the server maintenance anyways? [18:01] yofel: has there been changes to the KA scripts? I am noticing that it is bumping the extra-cmake-modules in control file to (>= 5.17.0~) [18:02] the last one to go by was at (>= 0.0.9) now been bumped up [18:03] no idea [18:03] not from me at least [18:03] the debian merges might have brought that in [18:07] yes, thats what happened [18:08] ok two are in manual [18:08] discover and kwin [18:09] ah, the patch needs taking out of kwin [18:10] Add_workaround_for_broken_no-XRandr_in_screen_edge_test.patch as it was cherry picked from upstream [18:10] which branch do I need to change? [18:13] kwin was the complicated thing [18:13] yup [18:13] I manually merged in the two archive changes [18:14] one was that patch, but that now needs removed [18:14] I would apply the changes to a new branch coming from the old archive state (there should be a git tag for the upload) [18:14] then merge said branch into kubuntu_xenial_archive, fix things up and remove the patch [18:15] OR you just apply the relevant change by hand [18:15] which is what rohan suggested yesterday [18:16] yofel: thats what I did, but the patch is still in the xenial branch [18:16] then drop it [18:16] Im unsure how [18:16] git rm ? [18:17] Im in the manual/kwin/git [18:17] and have rm -r patches [18:17] and added a changelog entry [18:17] can I push the changes from here? [18:17] then do git add -u or so [18:23] should I just upload what I have done so far? [18:23] need to go for an hour or so [18:24] I could leave it uploading to the PPA [18:25] fix kwin later [18:25] yofel: ^ [18:26] sure [18:26] ok, uploading [18:26] Ill be back later :) [19:30] yofel: can you update 5.5.1labels to 5.5.2 in status page http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/ ? [19:31] oh, he didn't do that, sec [19:32] done [19:37] i see old ones :D [19:37] also kwin and discover are 5.5.1 while others are 5.5.2 on the status list ? [19:38] page generation is cronned, come back in ~4min [19:38] they're missing, need fixing [19:38] aaah :) [19:39] ovidiu-florin: hows teh work on packaging docs going ? [19:43] yofel: i tihnk 5.5.2 can be removed now fromthe status list? [19:43] sorry 5.5.1 [19:44] too lazy for that [19:52] i would do that i i would know how :D [19:53] you could send in a patch for the script to auto-remove old stuff [19:53] need shell access to the server right now [19:53] *needs [20:36] soee_: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [20:36] clivejo: I'm back [20:37] kind of... [20:37] I'll read through the docs [20:37] I've skimmed through the IRC backlog, do I need to look more in depth? [21:34] depot.kde.org does not work, it that the right link? [21:35] is Kubuntu affected by bug 1527353, or not? [21:35] bug 1527353 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity shows for a second goes to tty then starts live session. " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527353 [21:35] ovidiu-florin: ssh/sftp only [21:35] I think [21:47] yofel: Frameworks 5.17 are they any hard to fix to build ? [21:48] o/ [21:50] soee_: there's one package that's utterly broken [21:50] so apps 15.12 is the latest? [21:51] latest release yes [21:55] yofel: can you please help in the docs with line 21 and 61? === aaron is now known as Guest69670 [21:56] mm [21:57] * ahoneybunn is having server issues [22:00] * clivejo is having power issues [22:01] Storm Fred took out the power for a few hours [22:02] and I have no history of how many packages I got uploaded before the power went out [22:02] yofel: you about? [22:04] * ovidiu-florin is having beer issues [22:05] clivejo: just re-upload everything (if you can) [22:05] otherwise just look at the PPA [22:05] or your acceptance emails === Guest69670 is now known as ahoneybun [22:06] yofel: can you give some feedback on lines 21 and 61 please? [22:07] yay my znc server is working again [22:07] looks like they all made it [22:08] user-manager_5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_source.ppa.upload [22:08] well thats good [22:08] yofel: ok regarding kwin [22:08] I have made the changes to the git folder [22:09] but when I try to push the commit it wants to push to the master branch as well [22:09] I use git gui [22:09] wow a new mediacenter [22:09] ovidiu-florin: why magic? All it does it run git push --follow-tags on all the git repositories [22:10] after a CI paused check [22:10] ok,let me put it this way [22:10] "I dont' know anything about packaging" Why should I run that command? [22:10] I have to go [22:10] now that my ZNC is up I'll see all the messages over IRC now [22:11] well, this is about git basics, if you clone and change stuff, you will eventually have to push [22:11] clivejo: do you also have changes on the master branch ? [22:11] ovidiu-florin: I dont want the changes to master [22:11] master is debian stuff [22:12] dont want to be messing with that [22:12] then push only the changes on the branch you want [22:12] or revert the changes to master you've made [22:12] but how do I do that using git gui? [22:14] but when I do a git status I get [22:14] On branch kubuntu_xenial_archive [22:14] Your branch is ahead of 'origin/kubuntu_xenial_archive' by 2 commits. [22:14] (use "git push" to publish your local commits) [22:14] nothing to commit, working directory clean [22:14] I dont understand why git gui wants to push to master# [22:14] I have no idea how git gui works, I never use that [22:15] yofel you think its safe enough to do a git push? [22:15] just do a git push origin kubuntu_xenial_archive to be on the safe side [22:16] done [22:18] yofel: how to I retry packaging kwin? [22:18] git-buildpackage-ppa ? [22:18] yep [22:18] what folder? [22:18] git? [22:18] yes [22:19] sorry, just checking [22:19] I need practice at this [22:19] ok that seems to have built [22:20] I have a changes file [22:20] cp this folder back into the workspace root? [22:20] doesn't matter [22:21] its ok to leave it in manual? [22:21] yes [22:21] will git-all script see it there? [22:22] you already pushed, so it doesn't have to [22:22] oh, yeah was just about to say [22:22] duh [22:22] git-push-all will only push the non-failures [22:23] if you want it to push the manual stuff too, then yes, you need to move them out of manual [22:23] got ya [22:24] uploaded kwin to staging PPA [22:24] discover doesnt seem to exist [22:24] was it renamed? [22:25] oh its looking for 5.5.1 [22:25] formerly muon(-discover) [22:26] yofel: it hasnt staged the packaging for discover [22:26] branch or repo missing maybe [22:27] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/discover.git/log/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive [22:27] xenial branch is there [22:27] no idea what happened then [22:28] and sgclark updated it to 5.5.1 [22:28] can it be staged manually? [22:28] oh rerun the script with just that one package? [22:32] discover has never been released and had a 4: epoch :/ [22:32] yofel: can I set the version back to discover (4:5.5.2-0ubuntu1) [22:37] ok, Ive bumped the version and uploaded the package to LP [22:38] would you pause KCI so I can do some magic "git-push-all -t ~/workspace/plasma/ -r plasma" [22:39] if it has and need an epoch you'll likely have to add it to the epoch lists [22:39] wherever needed [22:41] invalid option: -r [22:44] I guess thats not needed! [22:44] need to update the readme and packaging docs [22:48]