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| jpickett | are the links going to be updated at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -- at the moment it looks like 9th December is the most "current" iso | 02:33 |
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| retrojeff | there are so many fucking bugs in xenial 16.04 | 05:22 |
| retrojeff | its unreal | 05:22 |
| retrojeff | I hope alot of them get fixed before launch | 05:23 |
| retrojeff | it is the next LTS | 05:23 |
| retrojeff | I report bugs left and right they just sit untouched sigh | 05:23 |
| retrojeff | even the bug reporting process could use some work | 05:24 |
| retrojeff | I bet lots of ubuntu users have no clue how to report bugs | 05:24 |
| retrojeff | until something crashes and apport or whatever the fuck it is trys | 05:24 |
| retrojeff | most of the time apport itself crashes while trying to file a bug report | 05:25 |
| retrojeff | which in itself is amazingly funny | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: you cant generalize on that, running xenial pretty stable here | 05:58 |
| retrojeff | for the most part its semi stable | 05:58 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: keep in mind in this stage, things can still break | 05:58 |
| retrojeff | still a shit ton more that breaks hourly | 05:58 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: first alpha is 31dec | 05:58 |
| retrojeff | which I have reported non stop | 05:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !language | retrojeff | 05:59 |
| ubottu | retrojeff: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 05:59 |
| retrojeff | I upgraded from trusty to xenial | 05:59 |
| retrojeff | shocked it made it out alive | 05:59 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: well then thats wrong | 05:59 |
| retrojeff | after being in depend hell for 6 hours | 05:59 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: no wonder it brakes... | 05:59 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: you need to clean install or upgrade from 15.10 with do-release-upgrade -d | 06:00 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: if you upgrade from trusty, it thinks xenial already exists for upgrade | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: but xenial is still in test phase | 06:01 |
| retrojeff | already running 16.04 | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: yes with a messed up system... | 06:01 |
| retrojeff | no need to downgrade to 15.10 | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: i strongly suggest you clean install | 06:01 |
| retrojeff | no | 06:02 |
| retrojeff | I wont | 06:02 |
| retrojeff | it boots it runs | 06:02 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: then your bugs, will point to a messed up system, no real xenial bugs | 06:02 |
| retrojeff | its only select few packages that break hourly | 06:02 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: its guys like you, making wronly bugs to confuse the community like this | 06:02 |
| retrojeff | sure the bugs will be looked at or fixed by the time alpha hits | 06:03 |
| retrojeff | the worst bug right now is apt and apt-get | 06:03 |
| retrojeff | seeing double or tripple packages in synaptic | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: theres nothing wrong with apt-get here | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: you just made your own mess | 06:03 |
| retrojeff | http://i.imgur.com/vZ2eE3R.png | 06:04 |
| retrojeff | look at that mess | 06:04 |
| retrojeff | its just ungly | 06:04 |
| retrojeff | its just ugly | 06:04 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: i already see a ppa there | 06:05 |
| retrojeff | yes | 06:05 |
| retrojeff | I can disable the PPA | 06:05 |
| lotuspsychje | !ppa | retrojeff | 06:05 |
| ubottu | retrojeff: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 06:05 |
| retrojeff | thats no problem | 06:05 |
| retrojeff | I had this issue before even adding a PPA | 06:05 |
| retrojeff | no 2 systems are gonna be the same | 06:06 |
| retrojeff | my system and your system are gonna be different | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: nothing to do with that | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: you just upgraded wrongly, why dont you see that? | 06:06 |
| retrojeff | what because I wont use anything besides a LTS | 06:07 |
| lotuspsychje | xenial is still breakable and you do your best to make things break more | 06:07 |
| retrojeff | there will be others who upgrade from trusty to xenial | 06:07 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: sure, when its out officially | 06:07 |
| retrojeff | I can promise you others will upgrade from trusty to xenial | 06:08 |
| retrojeff | now that systemd is crap I am sad I did | 06:08 |
| retrojeff | I should have stayed on trusty | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: theres really no point talking like this | 06:08 |
| retrojeff | so many packages in trusty are old and out of date | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: theres nothing wrong with systemd | 06:08 |
| retrojeff | so I was forced to upgrade to xenial | 06:08 |
| retrojeff | oh there is tons wrong with systemd | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | its designed by an idiot | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | which broke alot | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | I offered fixes | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | which they declined | 06:09 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: ok stop it, now your really getting silly | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | now even CentOS is using systemd | 06:09 |
| retrojeff | so thats garbage now | 06:10 |
| lotuspsychje | retrojeff: use this channel for real issues only | 06:10 |
| retrojeff | everyone all bowed down to systemd thinking it was all mighty powerful | 06:10 |
| retrojeff | they are just stealing away control from the users | 06:10 |
| retrojeff | I quite liked init and using bash scripts | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | worked fine for years | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !ot | retrojeff | 06:11 |
| ubottu | retrojeff: #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | now systemd just moves on in and now its trash | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | all you can do is talk to some bot | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: around? | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | some help you are | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | what a fucking idiot | 06:11 |
| retrojeff | IRC is run by idiots | 06:12 |
| retrojeff | who fucking talk to bots | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | !ops | retrojeff | 06:12 |
| ubottu | retrojeff: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang | 06:12 |
| retrojeff | go fucking die in a fire | 06:12 |
| retrojeff | like a give a shit | 06:12 |
| retrojeff | you are no help anyways | 06:12 |
| retrojeff | lotuspsychje you have the fucking IQ of a chimp with a typewritter | 06:14 |
| retrojeff | its like the whole amazon search in dash its shit like this that makes people not have the freedom they want | 06:19 |
| retrojeff | and deserve | 06:19 |
| retrojeff | thank god its getting removed by default in 16.04 | 06:19 |
| lotuspsychje | rww: thank you | 06:45 |
| rww | apologies for the delay | 06:45 |
| lotuspsychje | rww: no sweat mate, you guys also have a life | 06:46 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:15 |
| DJones | lotuspsychje: Sorry, Only switched the computer on | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:51 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: no sweat mate it has been arranged :p | 14:04 |
| DJones | so i see | 14:05 |
| lotuspsychje | !info laptop-mode-tools xenial | 15:02 |
| ubottu | laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.68-3ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 77 kB, installed size 354 kB | 15:02 |
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