[06:40] <Kilos> o/
[17:36] <tsimonq2> o/ Kilos- 
[17:36] <tsimonq2> huh, I guess this place isn't that active when Canonical is gone
[17:37] <Kilos-> o/ tsimonq2 this is normally a quiet channel
[17:37] <Kilos-> only gets busy when there is work to be done
[17:37] <tsimonq2> Kilos-: seriously? I have had really long discussions on here! :D
[17:38] <Kilos-> yes but not often
[17:38] <Kilos-> and people are from all the timezones so not often you get whole groups chatting
[17:40] <Kilos-> hi elacheche 
[17:41]  * svij waves to Kilos- and tsimonq2
[17:41] <Kilos-> hows the date eater today
[17:41] <Kilos-> hi svij 
[17:41] <tsimonq2> o/ svij 
[17:42] <Kilos-> tsimonq2 where are you located?
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Kilos-: I am the leader for the US Wisconsin LoCo
[17:43] <Kilos-> aha 
[17:43] <Kilos-> so its around lunchtime there
[17:44] <Kilos-> give or take a couple of hours
[17:45] <tsimonq2> yep
[17:45] <tsimonq2> and I gotta go move some stuff then shovel
[17:45] <tsimonq2> so bye for now
[17:45] <Kilos-> cheers
[22:48] <grantc> HI FRIENDS,  REALLY GOT GREAT RESULTS WITH KUBUNTU FOR SOME TIME. BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN MY COMPUTER NOT ONLY HAS STOPPED ASKING TO INSTALL UPDATES, BUT IT WILL NOT LET ME UPDATE ANYTHING. I TRIED TO GET A NEWER VERSION OF MOZILLA FIREFOX, NO JOY. THEN TRIED TO GET A NEWER VERSION OF ADOBE FLASH, BUT AGAIN, NO LUCK.  COULD I HAVE ACCIDENTALLY TURNED SOMETHING OFF WHEN TRYING TO LEARN THE SYSTEM????   HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THE SAME 
[22:49] <wxl> holy caps grantc i feel like you're shouting at us :) what version of kubuntu do you have?
[22:49] <grantc> 14.04  64 bit
[22:49] <wxl> grantc: by what method did you try to install firefox?
[22:51] <grantc> went to install site offered by message saying, "looks like you're using an old version of firefox".
[22:51] <wxl> grantc: have you tried using muon or apt-get to update firefox?
[22:51] <wxl> !info firefox trusty
[22:51] <wxl> that's the current available for your version ^
[22:51] <grantc> i did use some commands, let me look in my notes.
[22:51] <wxl> !info firefox xenial
[22:52] <wxl> uh that's weird
[22:52] <wxl> !info firefox wily
[22:53] <wxl> 43.0 is consistent with current stable firefox
[22:53] <grantc> seems like i can not use any commands at all.  this has not happened before.  that's why i wonder if something is turned off.
[22:53] <wxl> so should just work
[22:53] <wxl> what commands are you trying to use?
[22:53] <tsimonq2> and what are the outputs?
[22:53] <grantc> give me a second to look that up for you.
[22:55] <grantc> thanks so much
[22:55] <wxl> np that's what we're here for
[22:56] <genii> There's more support going on in here than #kubuntu today ;)
[22:56] <grantc> the computer says that i did successfully download.  but then it will not install it.
[22:56] <grantc> when i go to view downloads, it's all there.  however, it will not install.
[22:57] <tsimonq2> grantc: can you give us exact terminal logs?
[22:57] <tsimonq2> grantc: or rather exact outputs
[22:57] <genii> So you are downloading these things from your browser, instead of using apt or muon?
[22:57] <grantc> i'm not real literate about that.  where do i go to find that info.
[22:58] <tsimonq2> grantc: remember those commands you ran? run them again, go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output in, click submit, and give us the link
[22:58] <tsimonq2> as well as the commands you ran
[22:58] <wxl> or
[22:58] <wxl> if it's more helpful
[22:58] <wxl> in terminal, do:
[22:58] <wxl> sudo apt-get update
[22:58] <wxl> and tell us if you get any errors
[22:59] <tsimonq2> either one :)
[22:59] <grantc> for example, when trying to get adobe flash.  i went to their site and successfully downloaded it but it did not install.  when i used the command line, this is what i typed:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer.         but no luck.
[22:59] <tsimonq2> grantc: did you include the period at the end of flashplugin-installer ?
[22:59] <wxl> grantc: adobe's kind of dropped linux support of flash.
[22:59] <genii> You need the restircted repositories enabled, and also to update the lists
[22:59] <genii> restricted, rather
[23:00] <wxl> might have better luck with pepper flash
[23:00]  * tsimonq2 backs off, so too many people aren't helping him at the same time
[23:00] <genii> !info flashplugin-installer
[23:00] <wxl> actually he means
[23:00] <genii> Oh, multiverse, rather
[23:00] <grantc> i did not put a period at the end of flashplugin-installer           that might be the problem.
[23:00] <wxl> !info flashplugin-installer trusty
[23:02] <wxl> so you'd need to `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer`
[23:02] <wxl> if it says that's the latest version, that's it
[23:02] <grantc> i did learn how to trick the system into playing the video anyways but clicking allow and then to remember.  however, does this leave my computer vulnerable to some kind of hack i wonder?
[23:03] <wxl> otherwise, there's pepper:
[23:03] <wxl> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree trusty
[23:03] <grantc> i will try pepper
[23:03]  * tsimonq2 read nonfree in RMS' voice
[23:04] <genii> tsimonq2: LOL
[23:04] <grantc> but i still worry why my compter is no longer asking to install updates.  
[23:06] <grantc> have you ever encountered a situation where the computer just stops asking to install updates of anykind??
[23:06] <wxl> grantc: yes, if there are none
[23:06] <wxl> grantc: of it something gets configured to not offer them
[23:07] <grantc> but it's been weeks.  i'll try to look into the configuration.  but how could i start?
[23:07] <wxl> might be an internet issue
[23:08] <wxl> or a problem with a mirror
[23:08] <wxl> i'd suggest starting by manually running `sudo apt-get update`
[23:08] <tsimonq2> grantc: if you are seriously concerned about updating computer and you want to right now, pop open a terminal and paste in: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:08] <grantc> thank you, i will try that and get back.
[23:08] <wxl> you might always want to check the logs in /var/log like dpkg.log and apt/history.log
[23:09] <grantc> that's a great idea
[23:09] <wxl> grantc: the configuration for apt is in /etc/apt, so you can hunt around there
[23:09] <wxl> but you'll have lots of reading to do before even being able to really understand it well
[23:10] <tsimonq2> +1
[23:10] <grantc> i'm going to copy these notes and try it out.  i can't expect you to wait on me cause it'll take some time.  thank you so much for the great advice.
[23:10] <wxl> we
[23:10] <wxl> re usually hiding here :)
[23:11] <grantc> it's nice to know you're out there.  this is my first visit here.
[23:11] <tsimonq2> grantc: and if there isn't a fast response here, #kubuntu is always a good place too :)
[23:12] <grantc> that's good to know, i'm impressed.
[23:12] <tsimonq2> grantc: well good luck :)
[23:12] <grantc> thanks again, have a great night.
[23:13] <wxl> u2 grantc 
[23:13]  * tsimonq2 gasps
[23:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: u2be ! LOL