| seeeb | I'll addd the sources manually | 00:01 |
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| seeeb | manually resolved that :) | 00:02 |
| dave4925_z | yeah just manually resolve it for each instance | 00:10 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:15 |
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| jaawerth | hi, folks! I've got what I hope is a quick question - on a few of my servers after running processes that /run/user is full, and doesn't seem to ever empty. It doesn't seem to break anything, and I realize /run/user/$id is a SystemD tmpfs thing - but I'm wondering if it not emptying is a problem? | 14:12 |
| jaawerth | from what I've been able to find, it's supposed to empty when a user logs out, so presumably it has something to do with ongoing processes that run as specific users | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | can I deploy OpenStack mitaka with trusty-proposed repo? | 14:53 |
| Walex2 | jaawerth: that is not supposed ever to get full... However echk the value of 'echo $TMP' for some of those users. | 15:29 |
| jaawerth | Walex2: haha, I think I just figured it out - my fault for leaving a tmux session open, at least one this one machine I'd just been testing it on. Thanks though | 15:33 |
| jaawerth | echo $TMP came back empty but I think it just wasn't clearing because I hadn't logged out in a while | 15:33 |
| Walex2 | jaawerth: perhaps you need a larger allocation to that | 15:33 |
| jaawerth | yeah, it's just 100M | 15:33 |
| jaawerth | and on that box in particular I do some data-write-intensive stuff | 15:33 |
| jaawerth | ah, looks like the shell env var is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 15:53 |
| Walex2 | jaawerth: gah, the usual XDG crap. | 16:11 |
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| jvwjgames | Hi guys remember my interface problem on my server | 16:25 |
| lordievader | Err, maybe with some more details? | 16:34 |
| seeeb | is there a lubuntu channel or related stuff here is okay? | 16:35 |
| lordievader | seeeb: There is a Lubuntu channel, yes. | 16:38 |
| lordievader | !alis | seeeb | 16:38 |
| ubottu | seeeb: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http | 16:38 |
| seeeb | cool thanks lordievader | 16:38 |
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| jaawerth | Walex2: common complaint with SystemD stuff? I've not paid a ton of attention to the controversy over it | 18:24 |
| jvwjgames | Hello guys | 19:21 |
| pmatulis | hello | 20:05 |
| Horler | Hey peeps, what sort of communication should I use to transfer files to my ubuntu server vps? | 20:41 |
| ikonia | scp ? sftp ? | 20:41 |
| Horler | I've been told that ftp is insecure. | 20:41 |
| ikonia | yup | 20:42 |
| rattking | rsync over ssh? | 20:42 |
| ikonia | depends what you want to do really | 20:42 |
| Horler | Plus, I'm a beginner. | 20:42 |
| ikonia | nothing wrong with that | 20:42 |
| Horler | Well, I manage a game server with friends... so I want people to be just in their own folder to edit/upload scripts of games | 20:42 |
| Horler | That's my purpose | 20:42 |
| ikonia | Horler: thats something you'll have to plan out | 20:43 |
| ikonia | as that could leave your server very open | 20:43 |
| Horler | What'd you recommend? | 20:43 |
| ikonia | you'd need to secure their users, decide about interactive shells/not, depending on that setup, make sure you use a method that has a client they can all use | 20:44 |
| ikonia | you need to put thought into it and plan it | 20:44 |
| Horler | to be honest, that went right above my head. | 20:45 |
| Horler | We're just two people, any simple ftp for now? | 20:45 |
| ikonia | I'd stay away from transfering anything over the internet via ftp | 20:46 |
| Horler | all right | 20:46 |
| ikonia | (its your call of course) | 20:47 |
| Horler | There's this sort of website for some files I want to download | 20:47 |
| Horler | when I use windows to go that link, it as usual download the files | 20:47 |
| Horler | but in ubuntu when I say wget url | 20:47 |
| ikonia | whats the url for one of the files you want | 20:48 |
| Horler | wget http://linux.mtasa.com/dl/151/multitheftauto_linux_x64-1.5.1.tar.gz | 20:48 |
| ikonia | works fine for me | 20:48 |
| Horler | wget this_link_above | 20:49 |
| Horler | gives this error : | 20:49 |
| Horler | wget: unable to resolve host address 'linux.mtasa.com' | 20:49 |
| Horler | weird | 20:49 |
| ikonia | your dns isn't working | 20:49 |
| ikonia | you need to point your server at working dns servers | 20:50 |
| Horler | I bought this VPS from a hosting company | 20:50 |
| Horler | how can I do that? | 20:50 |
| ikonia | ask them to configure it to point to their DNS servers | 20:50 |
| Horler | ah... okay... is there anything that I can do? I need it soon you know | 20:51 |
| ikonia | log a call to them | 20:51 |
| ikonia | and they should do it quickly | 20:51 |
| ikonia | should only take 5 minutes work | 20:51 |
| Horler | ah okay ;) | 20:51 |
| Horler | next(probably last) | 20:52 |
| Horler | I might stick to the vsftpd idea for now | 20:52 |
| Horler | Is there any way to lock user to a directory rather than his home directory? | 20:52 |
| ikonia | that is probably the most respected ftp server, but it is still a huge risk | 20:52 |
| ikonia | vspftd has a chroot home option | 20:52 |
| Horler | so that he can't go to his parent? | 20:53 |
| ikonia | yes | 20:53 |
| Horler | oh | 20:53 |
| Horler | i want to lock him to something that is not it's home | 20:53 |
| ikonia | you can do that | 20:53 |
| ikonia | chroot home allows you to set it where you want | 20:53 |
| ikonia | but it would be easier to just change his home dir to where you want to lock him | 20:53 |
| Horler | what is the command of that thing? | 20:53 |
| ikonia | as if you want to lock him somewhere, whats the point of having his home directory somewhere else | 20:53 |
| ikonia | it's not a "command" | 20:53 |
| ikonia | it's config option | 20:54 |
| ikonia | vsftpd is well documented | 20:54 |
| Horler | that vsftpd.conf file? | 20:54 |
| ikonia | thats one of the config files | 20:54 |
| ikonia | it can be modular | 20:54 |
| Horler | is there a guide for it anywhere official? | 20:56 |
| Horler | ikonia: I made chroot_local_user=YES | 20:58 |
| Horler | so... If i'll create an user now, he'll be restricted in /home/nameofuser? | 20:59 |
| ikonia | no | 21:04 |
| ikonia | did you read the doc about what you need | 21:04 |
| Horler | I did | 21:05 |
| ikonia | super | 21:05 |
| ikonia | just sort out your auth | 21:05 |
| Horler | I now logged in winscp from my new user, it took me to somewhere in etc folder | 21:06 |
| Horler | yeah, I can only make files in my home directory once I go there | 21:06 |
| Horler | Can I make user to log in only in his home? | 21:06 |
| ikonia | thats what you've just done | 21:08 |
| Horler | why am I being taken to etc when I First log in? | 21:10 |
| ikonia | look at your config | 21:10 |
| Horler | nothing there | 21:11 |
| ikonia | there will be | 21:11 |
| Horler | nope! | 21:12 |
| Horler | i just proofread it, nothing | 21:12 |
| ikonia | check the home directory of the user and the ftproot | 21:13 |
| Horler | nothing... | 21:15 |
| ikonia | it won't just dump you into /etc for fun | 21:16 |
| Horler | even my root is taking me to etc | 21:17 |
| Horler | very weird | 21:17 |
| ikonia | so that would suggest something such as the default ftproot | 21:17 |
| ikonia | and root should not be able to login | 21:17 |
| ikonia | that suggest you have changed your machine from the default config | 21:17 |
| Horler | i must re-install it | 21:17 |
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| bekks | Why? | 21:43 |
| bekks | Just because you did not configure WinSCP correctly? | 21:43 |
| bekks | In WinSCP, you can setup which folder should be opened upon connecting. | 21:43 |
| Horler | Ah bekks... thanks but I'm late now :( | 21:45 |
| Horler | but however, the user must open in his home directory, to which I locked him? | 21:46 |
| Horler | I don't want him to wander around view files | 21:46 |
| bekks | At least it will teach you that reinstalling does not solve problems. | 21:46 |
| bekks | If you dont want a user to see other content, you need to create a login chroot/jail. | 21:46 |
| Horler | yeah, that, how do I do that? | 21:47 |
| bekks | Like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simple-easy-way-to-jail-users | 21:49 |
| Horler | woah | 21:51 |
| Horler | that's too much | 21:51 |
| bekks | Thats the EASY way. | 21:52 |
| Horler | You sure? Do you have anything else than FTP just to transfer files? | 21:55 |
| bekks | Sure. | 21:56 |
| bekks | SFTP, implemented by SSH. | 21:56 |
| Horler | All right, how do I install it? | 21:57 |
| bekks | You already did, since you installed openssh-server. | 21:58 |
| Horler | I didnt! | 21:58 |
| jelly | who did, then?? | 21:59 |
| bekks | Horler: Well, then try to explain how you can connect using ssh ... | 21:59 |
| Horler | I was using ftp? vsftpd | 22:00 |
| bekks | Then you should try. | 22:00 |
| bekks | Since you are using a server, openssh-server is installed. | 22:00 |
| Horler | oh okay | 22:01 |
| Horler | then? | 22:01 |
| bekks | Then what? | 22:01 |
| bekks | Then you are using SSH. And that implements SFTP. | 22:01 |
| Horler | no offence but I'm a total noob | 22:03 |
| Horler | so... all right | 22:04 |
| Horler | ah man | 22:04 |
| bekks | Well, maybe you should take a very close look at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html understanding what SSH is. | 22:05 |
| Horler | i get that now... | 22:10 |
| Horler | we just have two things to transfer files? ftp and sftp? that's it? | 22:10 |
| bekks | Who is "we"? | 22:12 |
| Horler | ubuntu community? | 22:13 |
| ikonia | ?? | 22:13 |
| bekks | That statement makes no sense at all. | 22:13 |
| ikonia | if you only have 2 things to move,, just copy them on | 22:13 |
| ikonia | forget all this chrooting and stuff | 22:13 |
| ikonia | just copy the 2 things into place and be done | 22:13 |
| Horler | all right | 22:13 |
| bekks | I guess he thinks that "we" only have ftp and sftp for transgerring files. | 22:14 |
| bekks | *transferring | 22:14 |
| Horler | yep | 22:14 |
| Horler | I think that | 22:14 |
| bekks | Which is wrong. | 22:14 |
| Horler | what else do we have and what 2 things do I need to copy? | 22:15 |
| Horler | sorry guys, I just haven't been on ubuntu... | 22:15 |
| bekks | Besides FTP and SFTP, there is FTPS, NFS, SMB, CIFS, AFP, and a LOT more. | 22:16 |
| Horler | I just have one single purpose... give me friends access to only their own folders... not mess around in other folders... | 22:16 |
| rattking | if you will allow the user ssh access I would enable ssh server make them an account and use 'scp file user@host:~/" to write it to their home dir | 22:16 |
| bekks | Setup chrooted FTP, as being provided the link before. | 22:16 |
| bekks | Which you said is too complicated for you. | 22:16 |
| rattking | that way you leverage ssh for encryption and auth, but it has the down side of giving the user a shell on the box | 22:17 |
| Horler | bekks: the chroot part is too complicated | 22:18 |
| Horler | rattking: I've no clue | 22:18 |
| bekks | Horler: Which is a basic requirement as you stated. | 22:19 |
| patdk-wk | ftps is so broken | 22:20 |
| patdk-wk | no need to give a user a shell | 22:20 |
| patdk-wk | just lock the user to sftp | 22:20 |
| patdk-wk | scp requires a shell | 22:20 |
| patdk-wk | if you really don't want to deal with ssh chroot, and must have chroot, use proftpd sftp | 22:21 |
| bekks | vsftpd can chroot users too. | 22:21 |
| Horler | bekks: yeah | 22:21 |
| Horler | I tried... didn't work | 22:21 |
| JanC | openssh+sftp isn't that hard to set up, right? | 22:22 |
| bekks | You tried what, and what founded a works council and stopped working with which message? | 22:22 |
| bekks | JanC: sudo apt-get install openssh-server :) | 22:22 |
| bekks | JanC: aka "yes, easy" :) | 22:22 |
| JanC | bekks: it's slightly more work than that for sftp-only + chroot | 22:23 |
| JanC | but not really that much | 22:23 |
| Horler | all right | 22:24 |
| Horler | I'll try openssh-server now | 22:24 |
| Horler | it's already to newest version | 22:25 |
| bekks | As I said. | 22:25 |
| Horler | What should be done now? | 22:26 |
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| bekks | Connect using SFTP. | 22:26 |
| Horler | I must get a sftp client for windows first | 22:28 |
| bekks | You have one. | 22:28 |
| bekks | WinSCP. | 22:28 |
| Horler | winscp yeah, done | 22:28 |
| Horler | Oh my god | 22:28 |
| Horler | I've been using openssh since the starting! :o | 22:29 |
| bekks | Thats what you have been told, yes. | 22:29 |
| Horler | all right, but I didn't use all that ssh keys | 22:30 |
| Horler | just root, ip, and password | 22:30 |
| bekks | All those ssh keys are explained in the article about openssh-server I've been giving you. | 22:31 |
| Horler | ssh-copy-id username@remotehost | 22:34 |
| Horler | what's this | 22:34 |
| Horler | okay | 22:38 |
| rattking | that will copy your ssh public key to the server so you can get in without the users password | 22:38 |
| Horler | all done as of those keys | 22:38 |
| Horler | now what | 22:38 |
| Horler | how can I connect without root... ip and password | 22:38 |
| bekks | Horler: Connecting without IP? | 22:43 |
| bekks | Do you know what an IP is, and what it is used for? | 22:43 |
| Horler | yeah yeah | 22:43 |
| bekks | I dont think so, honestly. | 22:44 |
| Horler | in winscp | 22:45 |
| Horler | It must be like root@myip? | 22:45 |
| bekks | Without an IP, you cannot connect to an IP. | 22:46 |
| Horler | all right I get it! | 22:49 |
| Horler | but to generate a ssh key for my computer | 22:49 |
| Horler | shouldn't I have ubuntu at my home? | 22:49 |
| bekks | You already did all that, since you ran: 1229 233441 < Horler> ssh-copy-id username@remotehost | 22:50 |
| bekks | And: | 22:50 |
| bekks | 1229 233812 < Horler> all done as of those keys | 22:50 |
| Horler | I did that on my ubuntu server | 22:50 |
| bekks | Which is pointless. | 22:50 |
| Horler | yep | 22:51 |
| Horler | I must do it on windows command line | 22:51 |
| rattking | ohh yeah ssh-copy-id woudl be used by the client to put their key on the server | 22:51 |
| Horler | and then, when I copy my public key, I'll put it on my ovh control panel | 22:52 |
| Horler | bekks: seems fine now? | 22:52 |
| bekks | No. | 22:52 |
| bekks | 1229 235126 < rattking> ohh yeah ssh-copy-id woudl be used by the client to put their key on the server | 22:52 |
| bekks | You are trying to do it vice versa. | 22:53 |
| Horler | eh | 22:53 |
| Horler | I'll make a ssh key from windows and paste it on my vps control panel, is that correct? | 22:53 |
| bekks | No. | 22:53 |
| Horler | or what | 22:53 |
| Horler | all right | 22:53 |
| bekks | The VPS control panel is irrelevant. | 22:54 |
| Horler | ah | 22:54 |
| Horler | Where should I paste it then? | 22:54 |
| Horler | authorize_keys? | 22:54 |
| bekks | Where should you paste what? | 22:54 |
| ikonia | this is getting sily now | 22:55 |
| bekks | Horler: Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys first. | 22:55 |
| ikonia | there is no way you should have a server on the internet at this stage of learning | 22:55 |
| Horler | all right, will do. thank you so much guys | 22:56 |
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| latsni | Hi, i have a server, and i want the server to send emails (atm via sendmail) to my email address, i could do it via aliases, but unfortunately my mailserver uses greylisting and the emails of the server are not accepted. could someone give me a hint what i could search for or do, so that sendmail respect the greylisting of my mailserver? (searching the net only show me guides for implementing greylisting ..) | 23:28 |
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